WEBVTT

00:00:03.021 --> 00:00:06.354
[ocean waves splashing]

00:00:21.175 --> 00:00:23.925
[birds chirping]

00:00:29.871 --> 00:00:32.954
[jet engine roaring]

00:00:36.607 --> 00:00:39.820
- The hardest thing for a pilot to do is to land

00:00:39.820 --> 00:00:42.900
and takeoff from an aircraft carrier- especially landing.

00:00:42.900 --> 00:00:45.170
In the Navy we called it a \"controlled crash,\"

00:00:45.170 --> 00:00:46.660
and that\'s basically what it is.

00:00:46.660 --> 00:00:51.254
They have to decelerate at an incredibly rapid rate,

00:00:51.254 --> 00:00:52.660
get in the right path

00:00:52.660 --> 00:00:54.520
and you\'re putting it on a postage stamp

00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:56.440
in the middle of the ocean.

00:00:56.440 --> 00:00:59.520
It takes a very rare breed of individuals to do that

00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:02.601
and they have to train to do it safely.

00:01:02.601 --> 00:01:05.684
[jet engine roaring]

00:01:07.770 --> 00:01:09.900
- Most of the people that live here

00:01:09.900 --> 00:01:14.900
felt like we tried to live with the amount of noise we had.

00:01:16.020 --> 00:01:18.447
Unless you were right under the flight pattern,

00:01:18.447 --> 00:01:20.663
it was a livable situation.

00:01:21.395 --> 00:01:22.228
[jet engine roaring]

00:01:22.294 --> 00:01:24.360
But then we were talking about

00:01:24.420 --> 00:01:26.853
five times as much flying.

00:01:28.660 --> 00:01:33.620
- Our little airstrip was not built for these jets.

00:01:33.620 --> 00:01:36.688
That wasn\'t the plan back in the \'40s.

00:01:36.688 --> 00:01:39.830
And so the area around that airstrip has been

00:01:39.830 --> 00:01:42.010
developed all these years accordingly.

00:01:42.010 --> 00:01:44.683
And I really don\'t know how you go backwards.

00:01:47.869 --> 00:01:50.952
[jet engine roaring]

00:01:56.810 --> 00:02:00.820
- My deceased husband was a Navy pilot.

00:02:00.820 --> 00:02:04.750
I actually love watching the Blue Angels,

00:02:04.750 --> 00:02:07.763
but I had never experienced touch-and-go noise.

00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:13.920
It is the most horrendous noise you have experienced,

00:02:13.920 --> 00:02:17.692
and it goes on some days and nights

00:02:17.692 --> 00:02:19.913
for six to eight hours.

00:02:22.010 --> 00:02:23.910
- You can\'t avoid the fact that we\'re an airport

00:02:23.910 --> 00:02:26.490
and that we\'re gonna have airfield noise.

00:02:26.490 --> 00:02:28.620
All airfields, civilian and military,

00:02:28.620 --> 00:02:30.770
are very conscious of that

00:02:30.770 --> 00:02:33.570
and we work closely with local officials

00:02:33.570 --> 00:02:37.080
to make sure that we lessen that impact

00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:39.383
of the noise itself.

00:02:39.383 --> 00:02:42.378
[birds chirping and waves splashing]

00:02:42.378 --> 00:02:46.360
[jet engine roaring]

00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:48.180
- We get calls at our organization,

00:02:48.180 --> 00:02:49.040
people who are concerned

00:02:49.040 --> 00:02:50.240
who want us to do something

00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.470
to decrease that noise that they\'re hearing.

00:02:53.470 --> 00:02:55.690
The noise the kids have to deal with

00:02:55.690 --> 00:02:58.814
when they\'re out playing their baseball game in the spring.

00:02:58.814 --> 00:03:01.890
[jet engine roaring]

00:03:01.890 --> 00:03:04.560
- I usually feel my body start to vibrate

00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:07.158
before my ears hear the noise.

00:03:07.933 --> 00:03:12.933
It can vary from a few hours a day to eight hours

00:03:12.933 --> 00:03:14.920
or 10 hours a day.

00:03:14.920 --> 00:03:15.890
I sometimes think,

00:03:15.890 --> 00:03:18.989
okay I\'m just living on Navy time now.

00:03:18.989 --> 00:03:20.933
They\'re setting my schedule.

00:03:22.577 --> 00:03:27.160
[water flowing and birds chirping]

00:03:27.160 --> 00:03:29.690
- I\'ve been out camping on the Hoh River

00:03:29.690 --> 00:03:32.790
and it was drowned out by jets.

00:03:32.790 --> 00:03:34.290
It echoes off the mountains

00:03:35.330 --> 00:03:38.363
\'cause the Navy flies right in at 2000 feet.

00:03:39.460 --> 00:03:43.230
And when you\'ve got a Growler on afterburners at 2000 feet,

00:03:43.230 --> 00:03:44.423
that can break windows.

00:03:45.459 --> 00:03:48.126
[traffic noise]

00:03:50.230 --> 00:03:52.350
- Central Whidbey is a lot different than it was

00:03:52.350 --> 00:03:54.270
when the Navy came here during the war

00:03:54.270 --> 00:03:56.680
and there\'s a lot more people living here,

00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.683
and their airplanes are a lot noisier than they were.

00:04:00.850 --> 00:04:05.516
- The previous airplanes may have been 85, 90 decibels.

00:04:05.516 --> 00:04:09.835
The other day the planes were flying overhead where we live

00:04:09.835 --> 00:04:12.443
and they were at 132 decibels.

00:04:13.350 --> 00:04:15.987
We cannot be exposed to that more than

00:04:15.987 --> 00:04:20.987
approximately five seconds before it can cause hearing loss.

00:04:21.530 --> 00:04:24.480
And much of the hearing loss is permanent.

00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:26.090
- As the worlds evolves,

00:04:26.090 --> 00:04:27.900
as the threat capabilities evolve,

00:04:27.900 --> 00:04:30.440
we also need to evolve our platforms

00:04:30.440 --> 00:04:32.060
and our capabilities

00:04:32.060 --> 00:04:35.380
and measure the quantity of aircraft

00:04:35.380 --> 00:04:37.925
that we need based on the threat.

00:04:37.925 --> 00:04:40.193
[traffic noise]

00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:43.490
- This is Sherman Farm here,

00:04:43.490 --> 00:04:44.930
this is Hancock\'s over here-

00:04:44.930 --> 00:04:48.548
some of the original farmers from Donation Land Claim era.

00:04:48.548 --> 00:04:51.530
Our place is the white house with the

00:04:51.530 --> 00:04:53.463
big red barn behind it over here.

00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:57.936
The entire reserve is a network of trails

00:04:57.936 --> 00:05:00.271
that have incredible vistas.

00:05:00.271 --> 00:05:03.130
Trail networks go through the working farms

00:05:03.130 --> 00:05:05.410
and through the town of Coupeville.

00:05:05.410 --> 00:05:09.070
- The oldest part of the family was my mom\'s side

00:05:09.070 --> 00:05:14.070
and they bought this farm out here in 1885.

00:05:14.690 --> 00:05:18.943
\'Fact my grandson\'s sixth generation on the farm.

00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:21.450
We got federal money

00:05:21.450 --> 00:05:24.723
and we bought development rights off of the farm land.

00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:27.640
You can look out across this farm land,

00:05:27.640 --> 00:05:29.603
there will never be any houses on it.

00:05:31.780 --> 00:05:32.613
Amazing.

00:05:34.690 --> 00:05:36.530
- A lot of people made a lot of sacrifices

00:05:36.530 --> 00:05:39.330
40 years ago by selling their development rights,

00:05:39.330 --> 00:05:41.760
in effect placing restrictions on what they can

00:05:41.760 --> 00:05:43.360
and can\'t use their land for

00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:46.870
and a very conscious decision to protect agriculture

00:05:46.870 --> 00:05:49.410
and protect this rural landscape

00:05:49.410 --> 00:05:51.580
and this rural lifestyle.

00:05:51.580 --> 00:05:54.100
And a lot of people move here because of that.

00:05:54.617 --> 00:05:56.320
[jet engine roaring]

00:05:56.320 --> 00:05:59.060
- To ask our community,

00:05:59.060 --> 00:06:01.190
which has been designated by Congress

00:06:01.190 --> 00:06:03.420
as a National Historical Reserve,

00:06:03.420 --> 00:06:05.100
to become more of a military reserve

00:06:05.100 --> 00:06:06.740
than a historical reserve

00:06:06.740 --> 00:06:08.723
is a bridge too far.

00:06:12.580 --> 00:06:14.297
- ...A recent report warning of a, quote,

00:06:14.297 --> 00:06:18.200
\"epidemic of toxic contamination at U.S. military bases.\"

00:06:18.200 --> 00:06:20.220
Now hundreds of military bases across the country

00:06:20.220 --> 00:06:23.150
using a firefighting foam linked to serious health problems

00:06:23.150 --> 00:06:25.360
such as liver damage and cancer.

00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:27.500
- I\'ve been receiving complaints

00:06:27.500 --> 00:06:30.650
and pleas for help from our returning soldiers

00:06:30.650 --> 00:06:34.344
for years, from at least a dozen bases.

00:06:34.344 --> 00:06:37.410
- The water contamination seems to be

00:06:37.410 --> 00:06:39.575
coming from firefighting foam,

00:06:39.575 --> 00:06:41.870
where the foam has been used in training

00:06:41.870 --> 00:06:44.033
or to actually put out a fire.

00:06:44.033 --> 00:06:46.220
Then it has seeped into the ground

00:06:46.220 --> 00:06:47.773
and then into the groundwater.

00:06:48.660 --> 00:06:50.040
- We stopped training

00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:52.301
with those well over a decade ago.

00:06:52.301 --> 00:06:54.560
When we were training with it

00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:56.100
we had no knowledge that there were

00:06:56.100 --> 00:06:58.030
any potential health effects.

00:06:58.030 --> 00:07:01.400
But if we did have to use it for an actual emergency-

00:07:01.400 --> 00:07:04.820
us or any other firefighting agency,

00:07:04.820 --> 00:07:06.260
civilian or military-

00:07:06.260 --> 00:07:07.460
we understand that there would be

00:07:07.460 --> 00:07:09.423
a cleanup requirement afterwards.

00:07:10.660 --> 00:07:13.260
- I worked on those very chemicals in four

00:07:13.260 --> 00:07:17.120
or five different states on the East Coast.

00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:19.740
Once they get in the groundwater they go down,

00:07:19.740 --> 00:07:21.060
they don\'t break down,

00:07:21.060 --> 00:07:22.350
they last forever,

00:07:22.350 --> 00:07:23.550
they get in our bodies

00:07:23.550 --> 00:07:25.440
and stay in our bodies.

00:07:25.440 --> 00:07:27.570
We didn\'t ask for these chemicals to be there,

00:07:27.570 --> 00:07:28.657
we didn\'t put \'em there

00:07:28.657 --> 00:07:30.557
and we don\'t want to be drinking \'em.

00:07:33.610 --> 00:07:36.750
- We\'ve had teachers talk about the impacts on children-

00:07:36.750 --> 00:07:38.780
flying for multiple nights in a row

00:07:38.780 --> 00:07:40.010
and then the children\'s behavior

00:07:40.010 --> 00:07:42.660
and performance at school the next day.

00:07:42.660 --> 00:07:46.210
- My grandparents came here in 1918

00:07:46.210 --> 00:07:49.480
and bought the general store in Coupeville,

00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:51.328
Prairie Center Mercantile.

00:07:52.380 --> 00:07:54.080
So I\'ve been in Coupeville

00:07:54.080 --> 00:07:56.830
pretty much all my life.

00:07:56.830 --> 00:07:58.410
- When the transition to the Growlers

00:07:58.410 --> 00:08:00.300
was to occur the Navy told us-

00:08:00.300 --> 00:08:02.560
and we believed them- that there were gonna be

00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:05.440
fewer flights with quieter planes.

00:08:05.440 --> 00:08:07.210
It turns out the Growlers are

00:08:07.210 --> 00:08:09.913
significantly louder than the Prowlers.

00:08:09.913 --> 00:08:13.210
[jet engine roaring]

00:08:13.210 --> 00:08:16.915
- They\'re bringing in almost half again

00:08:16.915 --> 00:08:18.860
the number of aircraft they have here already

00:08:18.860 --> 00:08:20.100
and, as everybody knows,

00:08:20.100 --> 00:08:23.110
the noisiest aircraft in the inventory.

00:08:23.810 --> 00:08:26.319
And people that are pro-Navy and very supportive

00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:29.603
of the Department of Defense readiness concerns,

00:08:29.603 --> 00:08:32.308
they are now getting very concerned

00:08:32.308 --> 00:08:37.308
and becoming part of the voice in opposition.

00:08:37.680 --> 00:08:39.010
- I\'ve lived my whole life

00:08:39.010 --> 00:08:42.820
with a great deal of respect for the Armed Services

00:08:42.820 --> 00:08:44.059
and the veterans

00:08:44.059 --> 00:08:46.600
and the young people who are serving,

00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:48.280
and in particular the Navy.

00:08:48.280 --> 00:08:51.180
I\'ve always had a special fondness for the Navy.

00:08:51.180 --> 00:08:53.032
But they\'re cheating.

00:08:53.032 --> 00:08:55.380
- Like right now we\'re sitting on my back porch

00:08:55.380 --> 00:08:56.213
and they\'re not flying,

00:08:56.213 --> 00:08:57.203
so it\'s very quiet.

00:08:58.280 --> 00:08:59.117
- Yes, it\'s beautiful.

00:08:59.117 --> 00:09:02.340
- But when they are flying it\'s extremely noisy.

00:09:02.340 --> 00:09:05.030
But they average that flying time out

00:09:05.030 --> 00:09:07.070
with the non-flying time

00:09:07.070 --> 00:09:08.920
and over a year\'s time they say,

00:09:08.920 --> 00:09:12.350
\"Well that\'s not hazardous, it\'s only 65 decibels.\"

00:09:12.350 --> 00:09:14.810
But when they\'re flying it\'s over 100 decibels.

00:09:14.810 --> 00:09:17.490
[jet engine roaring]

00:09:17.490 --> 00:09:20.550
- It is realy disruptive to our

00:09:20.550 --> 00:09:22.513
work activity and our crew.

00:09:23.370 --> 00:09:25.220
I can watch everyone, including myself,

00:09:25.220 --> 00:09:26.930
just freeze in the fields.

00:09:26.930 --> 00:09:29.460
You can feel your whole stomach start to knot up

00:09:29.460 --> 00:09:31.880
and it\'s like, oh no, here they come.

00:09:31.880 --> 00:09:33.670
And often it\'s a day like this.

00:09:33.670 --> 00:09:35.010
We\'re listening to the birds

00:09:35.010 --> 00:09:39.430
and we\'re enjoying the magnificence of Whidbey Island,

00:09:39.430 --> 00:09:42.410
and then there\'s this invasion

00:09:42.410 --> 00:09:45.680
or intrusion that we\'re unable to control.

00:09:45.680 --> 00:09:47.740
- We\'ve been here 17 years

00:09:47.740 --> 00:09:50.698
and for the most of that it\'s been

00:09:50.698 --> 00:09:53.807
a pretty peaceful coexistence with the Navy.

00:09:53.807 --> 00:09:56.330
And I feel like when we moved here

00:09:56.330 --> 00:09:57.580
we knew that that was the situation,

00:09:57.580 --> 00:09:58.830
we would coexist with the Navy.

00:09:58.830 --> 00:10:01.247
And I feel like the Navy\'s really pushing

00:10:01.247 --> 00:10:04.446
to break that contract with the community.

00:10:04.446 --> 00:10:07.529
[jet engine roaring]

00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:12.140
- Noise affects not only our hearing

00:10:12.140 --> 00:10:14.800
but it also affects other aspects of our health.

00:10:14.800 --> 00:10:16.961
So this is a real public health issue.

00:10:17.760 --> 00:10:19.670
Higher incidences of divorces,

00:10:19.670 --> 00:10:22.503
higher incidences of mental health issues.

00:10:24.430 --> 00:10:27.640
- Environmental noise, particularly around airports,

00:10:27.640 --> 00:10:30.352
can be related to cardiovascular disease.

00:10:30.352 --> 00:10:33.960
There could be problems for people\'s sleep

00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.420
and particularly if people are very annoyed by the noise

00:10:37.420 --> 00:10:39.055
and it\'s causing stress.

00:10:39.055 --> 00:10:41.970
[motorcycle engine revving]

00:10:41.970 --> 00:10:44.170
- These are in-ear plug inserts.

00:10:44.170 --> 00:10:47.330
They\'re the foam ones that go deep inside your ears.

00:10:47.330 --> 00:10:50.290
Often we\'ll put these inside

00:10:50.290 --> 00:10:54.981
and then slip additional set of headphones on over them.

00:10:54.981 --> 00:10:58.040
Of course now that renders us completely

00:10:58.040 --> 00:10:59.340
unable to speak with one another when

00:10:59.340 --> 00:11:01.230
we\'re in the fields, so we\'ve gotten fairly

00:11:01.230 --> 00:11:02.703
good at sign language.

00:11:03.630 --> 00:11:05.050
I was certainly concerned about us

00:11:05.050 --> 00:11:07.110
working in those conditions

00:11:07.110 --> 00:11:10.970
and filed with the National OSHA.

00:11:10.970 --> 00:11:13.120
Their suggestions and conclusions were that

00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:15.930
we should find indoor activities

00:11:15.930 --> 00:11:18.663
for our farmers during flight times.

00:11:21.630 --> 00:11:24.220
- Oak Harbor, Coupeville, Airway Heights

00:11:24.220 --> 00:11:26.270
and communities actually around the country

00:11:26.270 --> 00:11:28.470
are being directly affected by

00:11:28.470 --> 00:11:30.360
groundwater contamination today

00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:33.159
and I\'m worried about not getting enough resources

00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:35.482
to address this problem.

00:11:35.482 --> 00:11:40.482
- We\'re trying to address any past usage

00:11:40.850 --> 00:11:44.490
of the firefighting foam that had

00:11:44.490 --> 00:11:47.030
PFOS and PFOA in it.

00:11:47.030 --> 00:11:48.310
[water flowing]

00:11:48.310 --> 00:11:50.870
- The EPA has set a lifetime health advisory

00:11:50.870 --> 00:11:52.630
for those two chemicals.

00:11:52.630 --> 00:11:54.440
It\'s not something that you would be exposed to

00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:56.250
and then feel sick immediately,

00:11:56.250 --> 00:11:57.880
but what we want is to make sure

00:11:57.880 --> 00:11:59.940
that the levels don\'t build up in your body

00:11:59.940 --> 00:12:03.492
over time to an extent that it becomes toxic.

00:12:03.492 --> 00:12:06.400
The Navy has been providing bottled water

00:12:06.400 --> 00:12:08.599
to people whose wells are above

00:12:08.599 --> 00:12:10.003
the health advisory level.

00:12:11.220 --> 00:12:12.130
- Some of those families

00:12:12.130 --> 00:12:13.360
have been on bottled water

00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.379
since November of 2016.

00:12:16.379 --> 00:12:18.260
That\'s what they use to cook with,

00:12:18.260 --> 00:12:20.446
that\'s what they brush their teeth with

00:12:20.446 --> 00:12:23.810
and that\'s what they drink.

00:12:25.700 --> 00:12:29.470
- There\'s about 40 local families that chose to have

00:12:29.470 --> 00:12:31.260
their water independently tested

00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:34.520
for six of the known chemicals

00:12:34.520 --> 00:12:36.283
down to two parts per trillion.

00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:39.730
For ourselves, but also for our customers,

00:12:39.730 --> 00:12:42.150
we need to be able to look them in the eye

00:12:42.150 --> 00:12:45.140
and say unequivocally that we have tested

00:12:45.140 --> 00:12:46.830
and we know that the water we are

00:12:46.830 --> 00:12:48.580
producing your food with is clean.

00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:54.421
- Our main well showed some results for PFOA,

00:12:54.421 --> 00:12:58.250
and then when that water is blended with other wells

00:12:58.250 --> 00:12:59.995
what goes out to our customers

00:12:59.995 --> 00:13:02.640
still has a reading for PFOA

00:13:02.640 --> 00:13:04.490
but it\'s even lower.

00:13:04.490 --> 00:13:06.830
The town ran a test in November,

00:13:06.830 --> 00:13:09.390
the Navy ran their test in December

00:13:09.390 --> 00:13:11.200
and we have since done two more testings.

00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:14.300
We\'re kind of trying to do this on a quarterly basis.

00:13:14.300 --> 00:13:17.693
All four sets of results have been very consistent.

00:13:19.270 --> 00:13:22.450
- The safe levels that EPA talks about

00:13:22.450 --> 00:13:24.144
are levels that are deemed to be

00:13:24.144 --> 00:13:28.190
dangerous by scientists and researchers.

00:13:28.190 --> 00:13:29.180
Coupeville for instance,

00:13:29.180 --> 00:13:30.650
the water that people are drinking there,

00:13:30.650 --> 00:13:32.480
if it was in Vermont

00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:36.460
or New Jersey it would be deemed to be not healthy

00:13:36.460 --> 00:13:39.373
and not even healthy for livestock.

00:13:39.373 --> 00:13:41.990
- Well, we now go to the grocery store

00:13:41.990 --> 00:13:43.493
and buy our drinking water.

00:13:45.090 --> 00:13:48.190
The city of Coupeville is blending

00:13:48.190 --> 00:13:50.840
the water from the contaminated wells

00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:53.672
with the three uncontaminated wells.

00:13:53.672 --> 00:13:54.917
- And I just forget all ...

00:13:54.917 --> 00:13:57.850
To think that everyday doing something

00:13:57.850 --> 00:14:00.180
so innocuous as drinking a glass of water

00:14:00.180 --> 00:14:02.080
that doesn\'t taste poisonous

00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:04.600
or look poisonous, but we know

00:14:05.860 --> 00:14:07.773
that this is harmful to our bodies.

00:14:09.830 --> 00:14:12.610
- One of the wells that\'s on the Navy property

00:14:12.610 --> 00:14:14.940
tested originally back in November

00:14:14.940 --> 00:14:18.171
for about 17 parts per trillion.

00:14:18.171 --> 00:14:21.270
Recently, like about a month ago,

00:14:21.270 --> 00:14:24.970
it tested for over 1100 part per trillion.

00:14:24.970 --> 00:14:27.160
And this is a really solid example

00:14:27.160 --> 00:14:29.900
about why we need ongoing testing

00:14:29.900 --> 00:14:32.350
and we need the Navy to clean our aquifer

00:14:32.350 --> 00:14:36.342
before they add 35,000 flights.

00:14:36.342 --> 00:14:38.700
[jet engine roaring]

00:14:38.700 --> 00:14:39.533
- They\'re in the environment,

00:14:39.533 --> 00:14:40.366
they stay in the environment

00:14:40.366 --> 00:14:41.430
and they move around,

00:14:41.430 --> 00:14:44.563
and they move around quite a bit in a water table as well.

00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:49.440
The Navy is going to have to work

00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:50.960
with the EPA to clean it up.

00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:52.740
They\'re not going to be able to wait

00:14:52.740 --> 00:14:54.390
for these chemicals to break down.

00:14:57.923 --> 00:15:00.756
[water splashing]

00:15:03.203 --> 00:15:06.286
[jet engine roaring]

00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:09.510
- They\'re gonna be flying over

00:15:09.510 --> 00:15:12.333
the Olympic Peninsula 260 days a year-

00:15:13.630 --> 00:15:15.590
over the quietest place maybe

00:15:15.590 --> 00:15:17.880
in the whole United States.

00:15:17.880 --> 00:15:20.950
- That kind of jet noise is going to impact birds

00:15:20.950 --> 00:15:23.870
and animals in the Olympic National Park

00:15:23.870 --> 00:15:25.413
and Olympic National Forest.

00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:28.708
If you have bears and other large mammals,

00:15:28.708 --> 00:15:32.680
they\'re obviously going to be disturbed by that noise.

00:15:32.680 --> 00:15:34.590
Feeding habits are going to be changed,

00:15:34.590 --> 00:15:37.260
sometimes reproductive habits are going to be changed.

00:15:37.260 --> 00:15:39.200
Certainly, where they live

00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:41.750
and where they try to sleep is going to be changed.

00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:47.220
- Guests who stay out at places like Kalaloch

00:15:47.220 --> 00:15:49.232
and other places on the West End

00:15:49.232 --> 00:15:51.593
have been leaving early.

00:15:52.640 --> 00:15:54.020
Paid up rooms and everything,

00:15:54.020 --> 00:15:55.570
but they can\'t stand the noise.

00:15:57.245 --> 00:15:59.995
[dramatic music]

00:16:03.580 --> 00:16:05.550
- There are over a dozen of these

00:16:05.550 --> 00:16:07.210
mobile emitter trucks that they\'re

00:16:07.210 --> 00:16:08.350
going to be driving around on the

00:16:08.350 --> 00:16:10.250
western Olympic Peninsula,

00:16:10.250 --> 00:16:13.490
largely in Olympic National Forest lands,

00:16:13.490 --> 00:16:15.820
that are emitting large amounts

00:16:15.820 --> 00:16:17.450
of electromagnetic radiation

00:16:17.450 --> 00:16:19.160
and then the Growler aircraft

00:16:19.160 --> 00:16:21.903
are flying above trying to find them.

00:16:23.070 --> 00:16:26.300
Even low levels of electromagnetic radiation

00:16:26.300 --> 00:16:28.553
are harmful to a biological organism.

00:16:30.970 --> 00:16:33.850
[explosions]

00:16:33.850 --> 00:16:37.545
- They will occasionally use live munitions,

00:16:37.545 --> 00:16:40.920
including bombs and torpedoes

00:16:40.920 --> 00:16:43.740
and very loud active sonars.

00:16:43.740 --> 00:16:45.180
So they\'re not just listening,

00:16:45.180 --> 00:16:49.906
they\'re making very loud high screechy sonar pings.

00:16:51.780 --> 00:16:53.450
- Sonar can rupture tissues

00:16:54.560 --> 00:16:56.500
and many times when whales beach themselves

00:16:56.500 --> 00:16:58.640
and they do necropsies on shore,

00:16:58.640 --> 00:17:01.606
they find that the tissues inside the head

00:17:01.606 --> 00:17:03.453
have been ruptured.

00:17:04.630 --> 00:17:09.563
Their sonar creates 235 decibels of sound.

00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:14.390
The French government has labeled 140 decibels

00:17:14.390 --> 00:17:16.163
enough sound to kill somebody.

00:17:18.080 --> 00:17:20.320
- Their hearing is their primary sense.

00:17:20.320 --> 00:17:22.850
It is how they navigate,

00:17:22.850 --> 00:17:26.200
by using echolocation, to communicate-

00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:29.220
not just for social bonding purposes

00:17:29.220 --> 00:17:32.163
but also to coordinate feeding strategies.

00:17:33.850 --> 00:17:38.053
- The Navy does constant training and exercises offshore.

00:17:38.980 --> 00:17:40.270
They have to do this,

00:17:40.270 --> 00:17:41.830
but do they have to do it in the middle of

00:17:41.830 --> 00:17:45.497
the Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary?

00:17:49.220 --> 00:17:51.510
- Washington State Park signed a

00:17:51.510 --> 00:17:54.100
right-of-access agreement with

00:17:54.100 --> 00:17:58.230
the Navy for five state parks.

00:17:58.230 --> 00:18:00.993
They are going to bivouac in the bushes.

00:18:02.170 --> 00:18:04.000
They are going to be carrying weapons

00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:08.323
that look to anyone else like a real weapon.

00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:11.040
- You can land on these beaches

00:18:11.040 --> 00:18:14.490
at night using submarines and send troops ashore

00:18:14.490 --> 00:18:18.460
and the idea is to remain on land for up to-

00:18:18.460 --> 00:18:21.657
I think it\'s 72 hours- without being detected.

00:18:21.657 --> 00:18:25.130
That means that families going on picnics,

00:18:25.130 --> 00:18:26.680
birding, things like that,

00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:29.040
you could have some guy in full combat gear

00:18:29.040 --> 00:18:30.193
hiding in the bushes.

00:18:32.020 --> 00:18:34.150
- One of the objects of what they\'re doing

00:18:34.150 --> 00:18:37.523
is to insert themselves without people knowing.

00:18:38.436 --> 00:18:41.900
And so the people who are being surveilled, basically,

00:18:41.900 --> 00:18:42.920
would not know

00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:44.200
and would not have a chance to say

00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:47.033
\"No, I don\'t want to participate in this.\"

00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:50.440
There are people who are homeless

00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:52.813
who are living in our state parks,

00:18:52.813 --> 00:18:56.930
and a number of people who are homeless are vets

00:18:56.930 --> 00:18:59.360
who have PTSD and other issues

00:18:59.360 --> 00:19:02.241
and may be carrying weapons.

00:19:02.241 --> 00:19:03.560
What could go wrong?

00:19:03.560 --> 00:19:05.343
What could possibly go wrong here?

00:19:10.170 --> 00:19:12.700
- A Navy F-18 Jet has crashed

00:19:12.700 --> 00:19:14.000
into an apartment complex.

00:19:15.550 --> 00:19:19.240
- When you have naval jets flying

00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:21.810
around a heavily populated area,

00:19:21.810 --> 00:19:23.800
and you have naval jets

00:19:23.800 --> 00:19:26.640
that actually have a very poor safety record

00:19:27.620 --> 00:19:31.000
there is some chance that one of those jets,

00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:34.060
one of these days, is going to plow into

00:19:34.060 --> 00:19:36.570
a high school or a hospital

00:19:36.570 --> 00:19:38.118
or a fuel depot.

00:19:38.118 --> 00:19:41.106
[jet engine roaring]

00:19:41.106 --> 00:19:44.540
- The Outlying Field was built in the 1940s.

00:19:44.540 --> 00:19:47.960
It was not built for the kind of aircraft

00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:48.930
that we have today.

00:19:48.930 --> 00:19:51.580
There are a number of Navy reports-

00:19:51.580 --> 00:19:54.083
from the \'60s, from the \'80s, from the \'90s-

00:19:54.083 --> 00:19:56.150
that outline the deficiencies of the field,

00:19:56.150 --> 00:19:58.340
and the field has never been updated.

00:19:58.340 --> 00:20:01.450
It\'s not adequate for even what they\'re doing today,

00:20:01.450 --> 00:20:02.940
and it\'s definitely not adequate

00:20:02.940 --> 00:20:07.636
for some of the proposals to increase the operations.

00:20:07.636 --> 00:20:11.440
[jet engine roaring]

00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:13.250
- They haven\'t quite reached full elevation

00:20:13.250 --> 00:20:14.490
when they come over our farm.

00:20:14.490 --> 00:20:18.850
They just kind of barely clear the tree lines.

00:20:18.850 --> 00:20:20.310
That was when- last summer that was

00:20:20.310 --> 00:20:21.520
particularly frightening.

00:20:21.520 --> 00:20:23.080
One came in and there was another one

00:20:23.080 --> 00:20:24.396
right on its tail

00:20:24.396 --> 00:20:25.938
less than three seconds behind,

00:20:25.970 --> 00:20:27.600
and we literally covered our heads

00:20:27.600 --> 00:20:29.814
and thought for sure that they would hit.

00:20:29.814 --> 00:20:32.010
[jet engine noise]

00:20:32.010 --> 00:20:35.120
- They\'re landing at about 150 miles an hour,

00:20:35.120 --> 00:20:37.008
and when they take off

00:20:37.008 --> 00:20:41.850
they take off directly toward the hospital.

00:20:41.850 --> 00:20:43.900
And just to the right of that

00:20:43.900 --> 00:20:46.710
is the elementary school.

00:20:46.710 --> 00:20:49.567
Just another couple blocks to the right of that

00:20:50.462 --> 00:20:52.630
is the middle school

00:20:52.630 --> 00:20:54.683
and the high school.

00:20:56.190 --> 00:20:59.610
- I think that the pilots that fly these planes-

00:21:00.685 --> 00:21:02.089
we know a couple

00:21:02.089 --> 00:21:02.922
and they\'re our friends

00:21:02.922 --> 00:21:04.853
and we have outmost respect for them.

00:21:05.810 --> 00:21:09.000
Unless you can get to the ocean if you\'re in trouble,

00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:12.430
I think those pilots feel they have to ride those planes

00:21:12.430 --> 00:21:14.303
right down to the ground.

00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:19.030
- We have over 400 homes filled with young families,

00:21:19.030 --> 00:21:23.850
retired people, in Crash Zone One, APZ1,

00:21:23.850 --> 00:21:25.350
at the south end of the field.

00:21:27.110 --> 00:21:29.960
- Underneath the flight patterns of the planes,

00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:32.040
those areas would be designated

00:21:32.040 --> 00:21:34.480
Accident Potential Zones.

00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:36.580
There a number of things that aren\'t compatible

00:21:36.580 --> 00:21:39.840
within those zones, including residential housing.

00:21:39.840 --> 00:21:42.000
So in other communities,

00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.270
the towns and municipalities have been required

00:21:45.270 --> 00:21:47.870
to buy out people who live under the flight pattern.

00:21:50.260 --> 00:21:54.320
- If the Navy increase results in up to

00:21:54.320 --> 00:21:57.800
1000 local families being displaced,

00:21:57.800 --> 00:22:01.210
then it comes in conflict with the intent

00:22:01.210 --> 00:22:03.050
of the legislation that established Ebey\'s Reserve

00:22:03.050 --> 00:22:05.663
to preserve and protect our community.

00:22:07.510 --> 00:22:10.610
- My sons, some of their best friends are military kids

00:22:10.610 --> 00:22:12.683
and just good people.

00:22:13.620 --> 00:22:15.576
Very community-minded.

00:22:15.576 --> 00:22:17.658
Very active.

00:22:17.658 --> 00:22:19.330
Volunteering.

00:22:19.330 --> 00:22:20.370
Coaching.

00:22:20.370 --> 00:22:22.230
Working with the kids in the school district.

00:22:22.230 --> 00:22:23.830
They\'re just a pleasure to have.

00:22:26.570 --> 00:22:29.350
- You will not find a better relationship

00:22:29.350 --> 00:22:30.920
between an installation

00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:33.650
and a host city than the one we have

00:22:33.650 --> 00:22:35.763
with Oak Harbor anywhere in the world.

00:22:36.690 --> 00:22:39.670
The support of our retirees

00:22:39.670 --> 00:22:40.960
and our sailors that live in

00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:43.070
Anacortes, Oak Harbor and Coupeville

00:22:43.070 --> 00:22:45.243
is absolutely phenomenal.

00:22:47.290 --> 00:22:50.963
- No public officials have really challenged the Navy.

00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:54.250
None have said to the Navy,

00:22:54.250 --> 00:22:58.450
\"You need to stop flying those jets over people\'s rooftops.

00:22:58.450 --> 00:23:01.673
You need to find another place to fly.\"

00:23:01.673 --> 00:23:03.740
[jet engine roaring]

00:23:03.740 --> 00:23:05.020
- I think the first step would be

00:23:05.020 --> 00:23:06.460
to have the Navy sit down

00:23:06.460 --> 00:23:09.240
and have an open honest conversation with the community

00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:10.480
about what they\'re proposing,

00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:13.320
about what the real impacts are that people are feeling.

00:23:13.320 --> 00:23:15.970
I don\'t think that\'s happened to date.

00:23:15.970 --> 00:23:19.000
And if you\'ve attended any of their Open Houses,

00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:21.050
I don\'t think you\'d feel that way either.

00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:24.453
- We do need the Navy.

00:23:26.220 --> 00:23:31.140
The people that I\'m involved with are not naive to the

00:23:31.140 --> 00:23:32.500
issues in the world today.

00:23:34.120 --> 00:23:38.490
But I would expect our Navy

00:23:38.490 --> 00:23:41.580
to work with the citizens

00:23:41.580 --> 00:23:45.170
that are being so severely impacted.

00:23:45.170 --> 00:23:48.090
- They meet with community leaders.

00:23:48.090 --> 00:23:50.060
Of course, the community leaders

00:23:50.060 --> 00:23:52.990
are generally Chamber of Commerce business types

00:23:52.990 --> 00:23:55.110
that are so dependent on this federal welfare

00:23:55.110 --> 00:23:57.380
that rolls in here twice a month at payday-

00:23:57.380 --> 00:24:01.133
but they won\'t meet with the affected citizens.

00:24:02.730 --> 00:24:04.910
- I think it would have been maybe

00:24:04.910 --> 00:24:06.630
a little bit more appropriate to have

00:24:06.630 --> 00:24:10.140
that community input before they made the decision

00:24:10.140 --> 00:24:14.280
to single-site all Growlers on Whidbey Island.

00:24:14.280 --> 00:24:18.960
\'Cause that was really were the impacts came in.

00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:21.660
Once that decision was already made

00:24:21.660 --> 00:24:24.530
then the number of flights that need to be flown-

00:24:24.530 --> 00:24:26.143
that\'s a simple math formula.

00:24:27.170 --> 00:24:30.570
- The OLF Coupeville is a perfect place for landing.

00:24:30.570 --> 00:24:32.850
It best simulates the conditions

00:24:32.850 --> 00:24:34.570
that we see at the carrier,

00:24:34.570 --> 00:24:35.729
mean sea level

00:24:35.729 --> 00:24:40.533
and the technical precision that we need on these landings.

00:24:42.300 --> 00:24:46.230
- They really didn\'t talk about other options,

00:24:46.230 --> 00:24:49.260
and those of us who\'ve lived here all our life

00:24:49.260 --> 00:24:51.688
think there are other options.

00:24:51.688 --> 00:24:55.420
And we think they know there are other options,

00:24:55.420 --> 00:24:57.564
and it\'s a cost factor.

00:24:57.564 --> 00:25:01.010
[jet engine roaring]

00:25:01.010 --> 00:25:02.350
- I think most people will agree

00:25:02.350 --> 00:25:07.350
they don\'t want 20,000, 25,000 operations overhead.

00:25:07.385 --> 00:25:11.610
It will drastically affect the agriculture

00:25:11.610 --> 00:25:12.720
in Central Whidbey.

00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.923
That is outside work that has to be done year-round.

00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:20.000
It will affect our tourism industry,

00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:22.683
which is huge to Coupeville.

00:25:24.940 --> 00:25:27.560
- I have one chef in particular who loves to come out

00:25:27.560 --> 00:25:28.740
and walk the farm with me,

00:25:28.740 --> 00:25:31.160
and that\'s how he places his order.

00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:33.060
And there\'s been a few days where

00:25:33.060 --> 00:25:34.940
he\'s just like, \"Yeah, we can\'t do this,\"

00:25:34.940 --> 00:25:38.120
gotten back into his vehicle and left.

00:25:38.120 --> 00:25:39.986
We\'ve also seen customers arrive,

00:25:39.986 --> 00:25:41.880
go to shop the store,

00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:43.210
get out, the planes go over,

00:25:43.210 --> 00:25:46.277
they cover their ears and race back for their car.

00:25:46.277 --> 00:25:48.910
[jet engine noise]

00:25:48.910 --> 00:25:50.400
- When the jets are flying,

00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:53.103
whether it be the roar or the overflight,

00:25:54.060 --> 00:25:59.043
the tourists that I encounter are just absolutely appalled.

00:26:00.350 --> 00:26:02.350
People don\'t come to the San Juans

00:26:02.350 --> 00:26:03.983
to be in a war training zone.

00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:07.780
- I\'ve heard stories of people leaving

00:26:07.780 --> 00:26:09.790
Deception Pass State Park,

00:26:09.790 --> 00:26:11.410
leaving their campgrounds in the middle of the night

00:26:11.410 --> 00:26:13.610
because they came there to camp

00:26:13.610 --> 00:26:14.730
and enjoy that quiet

00:26:14.730 --> 00:26:16.313
and it\'s completely disrupted.

00:26:17.268 --> 00:26:19.480
[waves splashing]

00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:22.970
- If Whidbey Island starts to acquire

00:26:22.970 --> 00:26:26.590
a reputation as the place where you cannot

00:26:26.590 --> 00:26:29.100
actually spend a night under the stars

00:26:29.100 --> 00:26:32.060
without the jets flying overhead,

00:26:32.060 --> 00:26:34.640
and is also a place where the water table\'s

00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.629
contaminated by PFAS,

00:26:37.629 --> 00:26:41.010
you can be absolutely sure that

00:26:41.010 --> 00:26:44.008
nature-loving hikers and so forth

00:26:44.008 --> 00:26:47.153
will beeline to other locations.

00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:52.270
- The establishment of Accident Potential Zones

00:26:52.270 --> 00:26:54.525
will probably result in the downzoning

00:26:54.525 --> 00:26:56.200
of somewhere between $300

00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:58.481
and $400 million dollars worth of property value.

00:26:58.481 --> 00:27:01.730
The county will either lose that revenue

00:27:01.730 --> 00:27:04.000
and have to decrease their services,

00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.350
or they will take that tax burden

00:27:06.350 --> 00:27:08.310
and put it on the rest of the county

00:27:08.310 --> 00:27:10.820
so that they can maintain the services

00:27:10.820 --> 00:27:12.403
that they currently provide.

00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:16.330
- In spite of the fact that the Navy people

00:27:16.330 --> 00:27:18.870
come into town and do business,

00:27:18.870 --> 00:27:20.430
most of the business that they do

00:27:20.430 --> 00:27:23.190
is really on the Navy base itself-

00:27:23.190 --> 00:27:26.740
where you have the only department store on Whidbey Island

00:27:26.740 --> 00:27:29.510
and the largest grocery store on the island.

00:27:29.510 --> 00:27:31.868
We have thousands of Navy families

00:27:31.868 --> 00:27:34.840
living in military housing,

00:27:34.840 --> 00:27:36.073
which is not taxed.

00:27:37.220 --> 00:27:39.950
Those costs- for fire protection

00:27:39.950 --> 00:27:41.430
and police protection

00:27:41.430 --> 00:27:44.233
and roads and sewage protection systems

00:27:44.233 --> 00:27:47.230
and all those things- are funded by the taxpayers

00:27:47.230 --> 00:27:48.263
and not the Navy.

00:27:51.057 --> 00:27:56.057
- Something like $5.7 million dollars a year

00:27:56.381 --> 00:27:59.455
should be paid by the Navy if it were

00:27:59.455 --> 00:28:02.313
a normal private industry.

00:28:03.530 --> 00:28:07.300
That\'s a small fraction of the 3/4

00:28:07.300 --> 00:28:11.280
of a billion dollars the Navy pays in salary every year,

00:28:11.280 --> 00:28:12.463
but it\'s a huge number.

00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:15.800
- The growth has many

00:28:15.800 --> 00:28:18.420
impacts across the whole economy

00:28:18.420 --> 00:28:22.140
and so we\'re not adding right now any base housing

00:28:22.140 --> 00:28:24.270
or capabilities, so all of those people

00:28:24.270 --> 00:28:26.870
that are coming are actually living out in town

00:28:26.870 --> 00:28:30.170
where they\'re providing property taxes and school.

00:28:30.170 --> 00:28:32.150
So management of the growth

00:28:33.900 --> 00:28:35.610
works with Island County

00:28:35.610 --> 00:28:37.493
and the various cities.

00:28:39.892 --> 00:28:41.940
[helicopter blades whirring]

00:28:41.940 --> 00:28:44.690
- I remember one day when I was in the Pentagon,

00:28:44.690 --> 00:28:46.060
one of the generals I worked with

00:28:46.060 --> 00:28:47.813
walking down the hall saying,

00:28:47.813 --> 00:28:49.763
\"I need four billion dollars

00:28:49.763 --> 00:28:51.907
and I need it before lunch.\"

00:28:53.280 --> 00:28:55.820
The Navy could offer to drill

00:28:55.820 --> 00:28:58.483
a new well for the town of Coupeville.

00:29:00.110 --> 00:29:02.510
The Navy could put in filtration systems

00:29:02.510 --> 00:29:05.273
for all the people on private wells.

00:29:06.250 --> 00:29:09.810
The Navy can even contract with the companies

00:29:09.810 --> 00:29:11.740
that can actually remove these chemicals

00:29:11.740 --> 00:29:12.790
from the water table.

00:29:14.847 --> 00:29:17.560
I\'ll guarantee the costs are less than

00:29:17.560 --> 00:29:19.688
the cost of one F-35.

00:29:22.026 --> 00:29:24.940
[waves splashing]

00:29:24.940 --> 00:29:26.690
- What we really want

00:29:26.690 --> 00:29:29.180
is for them to stop involving communities

00:29:29.180 --> 00:29:31.086
in combat training,

00:29:31.086 --> 00:29:35.659
to stop causing further endangerment

00:29:35.659 --> 00:29:39.164
of various species that depend on hearing

00:29:39.164 --> 00:29:40.823
and to be a better neighbor.

00:29:42.690 --> 00:29:45.140
They\'ve become a terrible neighbor.

00:29:45.140 --> 00:29:46.790
They used to be a great neighbor.

00:29:49.360 --> 00:29:51.770
- I\'ve seen the Environmental Protection Agency,

00:29:51.770 --> 00:29:54.340
the National Marine Fishery Service

00:29:54.340 --> 00:29:56.780
and NOAA make suggestions

00:29:56.780 --> 00:29:58.000
and recommendations to the Navy-

00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:59.880
that they mitigate impacts,

00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:02.190
change where they do their training-

00:30:02.190 --> 00:30:04.280
and time and time again I\'ve seen the Navy

00:30:04.280 --> 00:30:06.860
just completely blow off these recommendations

00:30:06.860 --> 00:30:08.150
from these federal agencies.

00:30:08.150 --> 00:30:10.546
Or maybe pay them lip-service.

00:30:10.546 --> 00:30:13.850
[jet engine roaring]

00:30:13.850 --> 00:30:15.250
- I want them to move.

00:30:16.320 --> 00:30:18.670
Base these planes at another base.

00:30:18.670 --> 00:30:20.320
Somewhere out in the desert.

00:30:20.320 --> 00:30:21.153
Somewhere to train them

00:30:21.153 --> 00:30:23.100
where they can train like they need to train

00:30:23.100 --> 00:30:25.340
without exposing all of us

00:30:25.340 --> 00:30:28.710
to crash zones, fuel dumping,

00:30:28.710 --> 00:30:30.300
120 decibels of noise

00:30:30.300 --> 00:30:32.588
and ruining our property values.

00:30:32.588 --> 00:30:35.293
[jet engine noise]

00:30:35.293 --> 00:30:39.470
- The Navy probably will lose in court,

00:30:39.470 --> 00:30:43.600
either a political court or litigation.

00:30:43.600 --> 00:30:45.600
And they\'ll lose the opportunity to train the way

00:30:45.600 --> 00:30:46.850
that they would like to train,

00:30:46.850 --> 00:30:48.450
in a responsible way that doesn\'t

00:30:48.450 --> 00:30:51.493
negatively impact the population and the environment.

00:30:53.010 --> 00:30:54.810
- You know, we\'re all patriotic.

00:30:54.810 --> 00:30:59.380
We all support our guys and everything.

00:30:59.380 --> 00:31:03.410
But this is a decision

00:31:03.410 --> 00:31:05.300
that\'s made at a higher level.

00:31:05.300 --> 00:31:07.060
\'Course they always go back to 9/11

00:31:07.060 --> 00:31:10.290
and they tell you it\'s something to do with security.

00:31:10.290 --> 00:31:12.643
Well, show me.

00:31:14.150 --> 00:31:16.560
You know, I just don\'t believe it.

00:31:16.560 --> 00:31:18.665
So... [laughing]

00:31:18.665 --> 00:31:21.250
[jet engine roaring]

00:31:21.250 --> 00:31:23.420
- I don\'t feel like it\'s either a pro

00:31:23.420 --> 00:31:25.480
or an anti-Navy position.

00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:27.860
Any corporation, any business that would come

00:31:27.860 --> 00:31:29.002
into our community

00:31:29.002 --> 00:31:33.000
and impose this noise intrusion

00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:35.710
and this pollution within our community

00:31:35.710 --> 00:31:38.433
we would stand up and speak out against.

00:31:41.770 --> 00:31:42.910
- It\'s a sacrifice zone

00:31:42.910 --> 00:31:46.210
if people allow themselves to be sacrificed.

00:31:46.210 --> 00:31:47.233
They can stop it.

00:31:48.080 --> 00:31:49.709
We can get this water cleaned up.

00:31:49.709 --> 00:31:52.936
We can get these jets from screaming over our heads

00:31:52.936 --> 00:31:54.443
and putting our properties

00:31:54.443 --> 00:31:56.150
and families at risk.

00:31:56.150 --> 00:31:59.175
But people are gonna have to fight for it

00:31:59.175 --> 00:32:01.258
or it\'s not gonna happen.

00:32:03.174 --> 00:32:06.507
[jet engine roaring]

00:32:21.134 --> 00:32:23.967
[birds chirping]