Valentine Road

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On February 12, 2008, in an Oxnard, California, classroom, 14-year-old Brandon McInerney shot classmate Larry King twice; Larry died of the wounds two days later. Larry (Leticia), a gender-variant youth of color, had liked to wear makeup and heels to school, and had publicly announced a crush on McInerney. For this reason, some of McInerney's defenders say the victim had 'embarrassed' the shooter--and was therefore at least partly to blame for his own murder.

VALENTINE ROAD is about an outrageous crime and an even more outrageous defense of it, but the film goes much deeper than mere outrage. In the end, it's the story of two victims of homophobia. Larry was killed because of it, but Brandon's life was horribly twisted by it as well. And it's the story of a community's response--sometimes inspirational and sometimes cruel--to a terrible tragedy.

Filmmaker Marta Cunningham deftly looks beyond the sensational aspects of the murder, introducing us to Larry's friends, teachers and guardians, as well as Brandon's loved ones--both children had led difficult lives. In examining Brandon's prosecution and defense, the documentary poses difficult questions about punishing juveniles for serious crimes, while exposing society's pervasive and deadly intolerance of young people who don't conform to its gender 'norms.'

VALENTINE ROAD brilliantly focuses on how bigotry and prejudice are community-wide problems, rather than only the acts of individuals. It asks how schools can respond to the the full complexity of students' lives, and support students in crisis before tragedy strikes.

'A powerful documentary...Cunningham exposes the virulent hatred that led to the murder, but also and perhaps more crucially shows the conditions of possibility in the school and in the wider community that allowed, and even encouraged, such hatred to erupt into murder. Valentine Road is a forceful indictment of the homophobia, transphobia and racism that led to Larry's death. Anyone who believes that the battle for 'tolerance' for LGBT lives has now been won needs to see this film.' Professor Gayle Salamon, Assistant Professor of English and the Program in Gender and Sexuality Studies, Princeton University

'A deeply moving and human experience...A richly educational work that draws the viewer into a tragic event with empathy and intimacy, and provokes a shift in perception that will be valuable in academic settings...The film makes an overt case for tolerance and understanding of those we might think of as 'other,' and a subtle plea for youth to have safe spaces to explore and grow. It is a valuable resource to stimulate discussion and a mindset shift in educational institutions about questions of identity, tolerance, and violence in our society.' Lina Srivastava, Faculty, Design for Social Innovation, School of Visual Arts

'Valentine Road vividly illustrates that the hatred that led a classmate to murder Latisha (Larry) King did not exist in a vacuum, but was the product of the bigotry against people of color and LGBT people in her school and community. The film is an excellent teaching tool and sure to generate valuable discussions about institutionalized racism, heterosexism, and genderism; victim blaming; the devaluation of the lives of trans people of color; and the effects of a hate crime.' Genny Beemyn, Director of the Stonewall Center, University of Massachusetts-Amherst, Author, The Lives of Transgender People

'This is an invaluable resource. I was riveted all the way through. Valentine Road is filmed almost without commentary, but instead allows the many people involved in and touched by this tragedy to speak for themselves and trusts those viewing the film to think deeply for themselves. The complexities of these issues are never reduced to easy answers, but a strong moral vision runs through the film. I wish every classroom in America could view and discuss Valentine Road.' Ellen Bass, MFA Faculty, Pacific University, Author of Free Your mind: The Book for Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual Youth and their Allies

'The young men and women in the film were extremely open, articulate, and willing to share their thoughts and feelings in this powerfully emotional documentary. There were so many victims as well as so many teachable moments. I hope Brandon is able to leave prison one day and use his life in the service of others different from himself. Who knows? In the meantime, there are so many messages, both positive and negative, that the film offers to viewers.' Ronni Sanlo, former Director, UCLA Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Campus Resource Center, Author, Working with Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender College Students: A Handbook for Faculty and Administrators

'Valentine Road adeptly uses student voices, teacher interviews, and police station and trial video footage to document the tragedy...This documentary will inspire vivid conversations about individual rights, the responsibility of the school, and social and political values about the prison system and trying juveniles as adults.' Emily Fisher, Associate Professor, School Psychology Program, Loyola Marymount University, Co-author, Creating Safe and Supportive Learning Environments: A Guide for Working with Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Questioning Youth and Families

'Valentine Road drives us along ordinary, all-too-familiar scenes, of schools, residents and families, forcing us to consider the shattering points of community and education. Painfully poignant and still struggling accounts of 'what happened?' - from teachers, students, residents - are re-told against a beautiful landscape turned ugly with hate crime...We are asked to dwell on who else is denied a future when fear and abuse are common currencies traded in and beyond the classroom, often despite brilliant attempts at different lives. The film takes us to the final resting place for Lawrence - but reminds us of desires, hopes and flights beyond hate.' Yvette Taylor, Head of the Weeks Centre for Social and Policy Research, London South Bank University, Author, Queering Religion, Religious Queers

'Valentine's Road is a powerfully crafted film that reflects the layer upon layers of pain caused by this tragic moment in history. The film sets a complicated scene of gender normativity, white privilege, child abuse and neglect, teacher's lack of preparation to deal with difference in students, gun violence, and the insensitive and inappropriate responses by law enforcement and school administration in the face of tragedy. The film offers a starting point for the hard conversations we need to have as teachers, parents, peers, policy-makers, and administrators about gender, sexuality, race, and other factors that produce hatred.' Michele Eliason, Associate Professor of Health Education, San Francisco State University, Author, Who Cares?: Institutional Barriers to Health Care for Lesbian, Gay, and Bisexual Persons

'Valentine Road takes a story we thought we knew, and humanizes everyone involved, so that ultimately, viewers understand that whatever the source of anyone's homophobia and transphobia, these issues hurt all people, not just folks who are gay or trans. It is my hope that by watching Valentine Road, educators, administrators, and young people will develop more empathy and understanding for the wide diversity of people they may encounter both in their schools, and in the wider world outside their own classrooms and communities.' Rachel Pepper, Author of Transitions of the Heart: Stories of Love, Struggle and Acceptance by Mothers of Transgender and Gender Variant Children and Co-author of The Gay and Lesbian Guide to College Life

'More than simply re-telling events, the film highlights perplexing issues pertaining to the U.S. justice and education systems and raises a number of thought provoking questions...These thought provoking questions, in addition to the overall content, make Valentine Road potentially useful as an educational tool for multiple disciplines. While recommended as an educational aid for social sciences and studies of gender and sexuality, Valentine Road is highly recommended as a tool for educator development and/or in-service trainings.' Jacob Carter, New York State Library, Educational Media Reviews Online

'The teacher's and viewer's guides, scene selection, and generally solid production values make for a strong teaching tool...This sensitive and thought-provoking film will spur audiences interested in gender identity issues, societal intolerance, bullying, and juvenile justice to reflection and discussion.' Joan Pedzich, Library Journal

'Valentine Road belongs in all school and public libraries as a cautionary tale about homophobia, intolerance, and the easy availability of guns.' Bernie Morrissey, The Harker School, School Library Journal

'Of the more than 250 DVDs reviewed last year, the following are memorable works that will enhance curricula with their strong educational and entertainment value...The hard-hitting documentary Valentine Road captures the tenor of our times...The films builds to an exploration of gender, homophobia, race, bullying, gun control, and the juvenile justice system, becoming engrossing and jaw dropping.' Kent Turner, School Library Journal's 2014 Top 10 List

'Riveting...It's up to the viewer to decide whether this is a bigotry-ridden travesty, a system bogged down in 'diversity,' or a town trying to show humanity and tolerance in regards to a crime that everyone agrees never should have happened...This thought-provoking film is highly recommended.' C. Cassady, Video Librarian

'Valentine Road examines the consequences of homophobia...and the community-wide poisons of bigotry and prejudice. How can schools better prepare themselves to react to the difficult problems surrounding their students' lives? How can homophobia and prejudice be countered in today's communities? A teacher's guide and viewers' guide enhance this hard, serious look at dire quandaries.' The Midwest Book Review

'At first glance the story might seem easy to tell. There is a murderer and his victim. In a world so rife with homophobia, Larry was no doubt targeted for his decision to wear women's clothes, and for his nascent flirtation with his eventual killer. Valentine Road doesn't undermine this conclusion, it goes beyond it...Her film is a nuanced investigation into the question of how children become the adults they do...It should not be underestimated what an achievement it is to take on so complex a story and to expose its layers with such a meticulous lightness of touch. Valentine Road announces Cunningham as a singular talent. It is exhilarating to consider what she might bring us next.' Alice Lytton, IndieWire

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Main credits

Cunningham, Marta (film director)
Cunningham, Marta (film producer)
Alpert, Sasha (film producer)
Schmidt, Eddie (film producer)

Other credits

Editor, Tchavdar Georgiev; director of photography, Arlene Nelson; original music by Michael Orendy.

MARC Record See Worldcat record

Keywords

Brandon McInerney, Larry King, school shooting, tragedy, Oxnard, California, gender-variant, youth of color, outrageous crime, outrageous defense, murder, gay, transgender, LGBT, discrimination, homophobia, hate crime, media, bigotry, violence, community, bullying, racism, immigration, Latino youth, Anderson Cooper, CNN, community-wide problems; "Valentine Road"; Bullfrog Films

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- [singing] Ooh

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[gentle music]

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Ooh

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[music continues]

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- Everyone knows
where L.A. is.

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You tell someone,
\"Do you know where Oxnard is?\"

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Hardly anyone knows,

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unless they\'ve heard
about the story.

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It was a bad thing to happen,

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horrible thing to happen.

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We all learned a lot about life
through this,

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and I know people on the outside

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have learned a lot

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about themselves through this.

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- [singing] Ooh

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Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh

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Ooh

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Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh

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Ooh, ooh, ooh

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Ooh, ooh

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- Like, I just woke up

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like it was just another
morning.

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But I was sick,

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and I didn\'t want
to go to school,

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but I pushed myself
to go to school.

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- I had bought a new sweater
the day before,

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so I was all happy to wear it
and stuff.

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And then Mom drove me to school,

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gave her a kiss good-bye.

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Everyone was just hanging out
like we usually do

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before the bell rang.

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- We walked down
to the computer lab.

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Larry and I walked together,

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and the rest of the class
was behind us.

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And he brought me
little flowers in a Dixie cup.

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He was just
a sweetheart of a kid.

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He was a little smaller.

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You know, those kind of kids,

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you tend to...

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Okay, you just want
to protect \'em.

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- We went to type our essays
for the Holocaust...

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Anne Frank and stuff like that.

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- It\'s so frickin\' ironic.

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It\'s a unit on tolerance.

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Everybody sat down,
and we started typing.

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I was walking around,
up and down

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and checking on people\'s things,

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and then all of a sudden,
I heard this pop.

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- Like a loud bang,
like a balloon popped.

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- And I just knew

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somebody had exploded
one of those computers,

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and I turned around,
and Brandon was standing.

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I said, \"What the hell
are you doing?\"

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I don\'t know how long it took

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for me to realize
that was a gun.

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- I stood up from my chair,

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and I was able to see
over the computer.

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I just saw his eyes.

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- I looked at him.
He looked at me.

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And then all of a sudden,
there was another pop.

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- He just...

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gave him another one,
back of the head,

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and he dropped.

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And Miss Boldrin
tried helping Larry,

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but she was too shocked
and paranoid.

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She didn\'t know what to do.

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Brandon put the gun down,

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and he ran out.

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- 911, emergency dispatch.

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You\'re at E.O. Green School?
- Yes.

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Shots were fired
by Room 42 on campus.

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- Do you know where
the person with the gun is?

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- No.
- Who\'s the victim?

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Is there a victim?
I\'m on the phone with dispatch.

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- Larry.
We need an ambulance.

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- The ambulance is on the way.

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They should be there staging
anytime now, okay?

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- [sniffles]

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- And everyone was screaming,

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like,
the kids that had seen it...

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Like, the blood and everything,
I guess.

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- There was somebody else
doing first aid.

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All I kept thinking is,

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\"Let him know I\'m here.
He knows my voice.\"

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And he was just looking around
and trying to find me.

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So he was definitely hearing me.

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He was vomiting and gasping...

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And thrashing around,
obviously in extreme pain.

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- One of the people
in the office

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came on the intercom,
and she sounded really frantic

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and was like,
\"We\'re on lockdown.

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This is not a drill.\"

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- These giant cops came in
with huge guns

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and, like, kicked the door open.

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- We\'ve realized,
since Columbine,

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there\'s a potential
for more victims.

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There\'s a potential
for more suspects,

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so they had to start searching
the school.

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- 30 people come in
with a full-on suit

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and with, like, lights
on their helmets and guns.

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Like, they were pointing them
everywhere,

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and that just even got us
more scared.

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[dramatic music]

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- Our first priority is,

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what do we do with the children
that were in the classroom

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that actually directly visually
witnessed what happened?

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They were put into a spare room.

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We put on a movie for \'em

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and staged some officers
in the room.

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- Well, let\'s stick
these 20... what... 5 of us

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in a room.

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Let\'s put on \"Jaws.\"

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- [gasping]

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[yelling]

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- Not a cartoon or...

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Let\'s put on \"Jaws.\"

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[indistinct chatter]

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- There was a huge line
all the way down the street

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of parents waiting
to pick up their children.

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Their children
could\'ve been hurt,

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and they\'re just having them
wait outside in a line

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like nothing\'s happened.

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[indistinct chatter]

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- Hi, everybody.

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I wanted to let you know
a quick update

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on the incident
that happened this morning

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out at E.O. Green School
in Oxnard.

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The victim
is in surgery right now

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at St. John\'s Hospital,

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so we\'re keeping
our fingers crossed,

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saying our prayers
for this young man.

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And the suspect in this case
fled the area,

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and he was apprehended by police

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just a couple of blocks away.

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[tense music]

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- My friend Matt pulled up
and came walking in,

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and I was like,
\"Hey, how\'s it going?\"

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And he\'s like, \"There was
a shooting at E.O. Green.\"

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And I was like, \"I know.
I heard it on the radio.\"

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I was like, \"Crazy, huh?\"

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And he was all, \"Brandon
was involved with that,\"

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and I instantly thought, like,
he was the one who got shot.

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And I\'m like, \"Is he alive?
Is he okay?\"

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You know?

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And he was like, \"No.
Like, he... he shot a kid.\"

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And I just fell to my knees
and started crying,

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like, just started screaming,
\"No.\"

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And that\'s all
I really remember,

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is just screaming, \"No,\"

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and smashing holes
in everything.

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And then some detectives
showed up

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and tried to talk to me,

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and they\'re like, \"You know,

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\"he is not the victim here.

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You know, I don\'t understand
why you\'re so upset.\"

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- What\'s your full name, son?

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- Brandon.

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- Is that B-R-A-N-D-O-N?

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- Yes, sir.
- Your middle name.

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- David Mclnerney.

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- Me and my brother
looked up to my little brother

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\'cause he was the good one.

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He never did no drugs,
never got drunk.

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We were all doing that
when we were his age.

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He was all about
keeping his life straight.

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And... and then all this happened.

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- Just turned 15, huh?

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- 14, sir.
- Err, 14, yeah, 14.

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- People did look at Brandon
as older than he really was.

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Deep down, he\'s still a kid,
you know?

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He still bought
action figure toys,

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and he played
with Pokémon cards.

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- I heard that he got caught,

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like, a couple of streets over.

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[sniffles]

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But I was still scared.

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- When I found out
someone got shot,

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I knew automatically
that it was Larry.

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- Yeah, same here.

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[upbeat acoustic guitar music]

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- The first time
that I met Larry,

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some kid was over there,

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and the kid
said something to him.

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And Larry got in his face
and said,

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\"Hey, I am who I am, so don\'t,\"
you know?

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You know, and I ran over there,

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and I got in that kid\'s face,
said, \"You know what?

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Just leave this kid alone,
you know?\"

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That\'s when we became friends,
you know.

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We\'re like brothers,
so we look after each other.

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We would go
to get clothes, right,

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from the front and...
Donated clothes.

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He would always go
for the girls\' clothes

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for some reason.

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I\'m like...

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What?

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- We had one episode
during Christmas break

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where he got makeup.

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He put it on.
It was purple and bright.

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And, oh, my God,
it was the first time

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I\'d seen him put makeup on.

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And I... he goes,
\"What do you think?\"

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And I go, \"I think
you look like a clown,

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\"and being a woman
who puts on makeup,

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I can tell you that.\"

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So we had a V.S. take...
Take him in

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and really kind of show him
how to put it on

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but not put it on.

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[laughs]

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- Further in, all of a sudden,
the boots appeared.

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And I remember thinking,

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\"I can\'t walk
in those things all day.

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I don\'t know
how he\'s doing it.\"

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- He was a tough kid,
pretty strong-willed.

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And I remember telling him
one time,

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\"Now, Larry, you really
shouldn\'t be wearing

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\"heeled shoes to school
because it\'s, you know...

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It\'s dangerous
when you\'re doing P.E.\"

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And so he put on tennis shoes
and went out the door with me.

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Little did I know,
he had tucked his heels

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into a backpack.

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[laughs]

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- Whenever Brandon
talked about Larry,

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it was about
what Larry was wearing,

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\'cause it really was just weird.

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It was, like, off-the-wall
to him.

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And it was off-the-wall
to me too.

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I think Larry
was kind of shoving it

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in everyone\'s face.

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For you to come to school
dressed like that,

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you\'re making a big statement.

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[rousing marching band music]

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[cheers and applause]

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[light bell music]

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- At Christmastime,
Larry said very shyly,

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\"I\'ve got a present for you.\"

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And it was a little blanket
and a mouse

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that he had crocheted
for my cat.

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And I said, \"Oh, Larry,
that\'s so sweet.\"

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And I opened it in front of him
and gave him a hug.

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My cat didn\'t show any interest
in either item.

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It\'s admirable
that he was crocheting scarves

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for the soldiers
in the Middle East.

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But nobody in the seventh grade
crochets.

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- Everybody
was making fun of him.

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- Yeah.

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- They were using him

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as, like...
Like, sexual jokes,

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like, \"Oh, hey, dude,

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\"you\'re so gay,
you\'re gonna date Larry

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when you grow up.\"

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- [singing]
I thought I could be God

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Preserve our tainted love

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- The Valentine\'s Day game
is where everyone says

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the first person
that comes to their mind

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who they think is cute.

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And they have to go up
to that person

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and ask them
to be their valentine.

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- [singing]
And if I beg for you...

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- And Larry
thought Brandon was cute.

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- [singing] To go

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I\'m left with just a long...

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- He had to go up to Brandon,
and it just so happened

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that Brandon\'s friends
were around him,

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so he got real embarrassed
when Larry asked him

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to be his valentine.

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[kids snickering]

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[shimmering tone]

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- [singing]
There\'s nothing more to say

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Keep talking anyway to me

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- Larry made a comment

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to the effect of,
\"I love you, baby.\"

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Brandon was offended
by Larry\'s effeminate demeanor.

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He was really disgusted
by who Larry was,

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and I think it made him
very angry.

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Brandon approached
another student,

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a girlfriend of Larry\'s,

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and he told her, \"Say good-bye
to your friend Larry,

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because you\'re not gonna see him
after tomorrow.\"

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[foreboding music]

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Oxnard police detectives

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obtained a search warrant
for the residence

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which belonged
to Brandon\'s grandfather.

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The grandfather\'s room

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had a couple of long guns,

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and then there were
a number of handguns.

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There was ammunition as well

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placed on a top shelf
of Brandon\'s bedroom.

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- The morning it happened,
my phone rang at 7:35,

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and it was him.

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I was gonna call him right back,
and I didn\'t.

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Many times,
I\'m just sitting in that room,

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and I just want to say,
\"What were you calling me for?\"

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And I still don\'t know.

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- He called you
before it happened?

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- [sniffles]

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- Okay.

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- The victim in this case,

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his condition
seems to be improving

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a little bit at the hospital,

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and hopefully he continues
to be on the mend.

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So that\'s great news.

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- It was a whole bunch of,

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\"Oh, well, he\'s stable.

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Oh, he\'s in critical condition,
but he\'s stable.\"

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- \"Oh, he\'s dead.\"
That\'s what we heard.

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Both: And then, like,
five minutes later...

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- \"Oh, he\'s okay.\"

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[gentle music]

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That wasn\'t a very happy
Valentine\'s Day for anyone.

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[seagulls calling]

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- I thought Larry
was gonna survive.

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A teacher was like,
\"He\'s gonna survive it

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\'cause it wasn\'t
a strong enough gun.\"

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But then Valentine\'s came,

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and then they gave us the news
that he passed away.

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- [singing] And I can\'t change

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- Bah-bah, bah, bah, bah

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Bah-bah, bah, bah

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- Even if I tried

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Even if I wanted to

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And I can\'t change

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Even if I tried

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Even if I wanted to

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My love, my love, my love

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She keeps me warm

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She keeps me warm

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- I don\'t think people realize
how brave Larry was.

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Like, being out
to that many people,

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like, must\'ve been,
like, extremely difficult.

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- One, two, three.

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Yay.
- Love you, Larry.

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- [singing] Love is patient

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- This is not political.

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I\'m not a political person,

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but this is personal to me.

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A boy has been killed,

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and a number of lives
have been ruined,

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and somewhere along the line,
the killer, Brandon,

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got the message
that it\'s so threatening

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and so awful and so horrific

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that Larry would want to be
his valentine

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that killing Larry seemed to be
the right thing to do.

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And when the message out there
is so horrible

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that to be gay,
you can get killed for it,

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we need to change the message.

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Larry was not
a second-class citizen.

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I am not a second-class citizen.

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It is okay if you\'re gay.

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[cheers and applause]

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My heart goes out
to everybody involved

00:17:36.600 --> 00:17:38.200
in this horrible,
horrible incident,

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the whole... all the families
and this poor...

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Even, you know,
Brandon\'s life has changed

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\'cause he did this.

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[melancholy music]

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- I just knew,
right off the bat,

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that they were gonna try him
as an adult.

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In my head,
as soon as I heard it,

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I was like, \"Yeah, like,
he\'s going to jail

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for the rest of his life.\"

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And then I kept saying,
\"It\'s like

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\"he\'ll never be able
to love a girl, you know,

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\"or he\'ll never be able to,
you know, get drunk

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and do something stupid,\"
you know?

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He never even got in trouble
before.

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There are so many things
he never got to do, you know.

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Like, he never
got to drive a car

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or, you know, ditch school.

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Like, just constantly
kept running through my head

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is all the things
that he\'ll never be able to do.

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- I didn\'t know
anything about it

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until I read a little article.

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You know, he was 14
and that it was a classmate

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and that it was charged
as a hate crime

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and that he was looking
at life in prison.

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I was like,

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\"We should try to help
this kid.\"

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Scott was working
for United Defense Group,

00:19:05.766 --> 00:19:07.833
and his boss said,
\"Yeah, we can do it pro bono,\"

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and then we just kind of
sought out to help the family.

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- Our passion
is helping children

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in the juvenile delinquency
arena

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and especially those
that are charged as adults.

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It used to be that they would
have a fitness hearing...

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The juvenile\'s background,
mental health issues.

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The idea behind it is to
rehabilitate, not to punish.

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- But Prop 21 just cut
that whole process out.

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- Well, I have
a three-defendant gang homicide

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where one victim was killed,

00:19:42.766 --> 00:19:44.333
three victims
were seriously injured.

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They were shot multiple times
with a TEC-9,

00:19:46.100 --> 00:19:47.866
which is a semiautomatic...

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- Prop 21 intended to address
this rather dramatic uptick

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in juvenile violence
in the gang context,

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because a lot of the peewees,

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as their older brethren
call them,

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were put up to the task

00:20:01.166 --> 00:20:02.533
of committing
these violent crimes

00:20:02.566 --> 00:20:04.006
because they knew
they would only go

00:20:04.033 --> 00:20:05.233
into the juvenile facility...

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[slapping]

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Where they would receive
a mild slap on the hand,

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and they would be out
on the streets

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within a very short period
of time.

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- A lot of people thought
that this was for gang kids.

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I don\'t think anybody
anticipated that it would be

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used in the way
that it\'s being used now.

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They\'re taking a 14-year-old
who\'s barely...

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You know, 19 days
after his 14th birthday

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and making that snap decision,

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\"We\'re gonna charge it
as an adult because we can.\"

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- There are cases
where juveniles

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have committed a homicide,

00:20:33.766 --> 00:20:36.433
and we leave \'em
in juvenile court.

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Because of the vicious nature
of the crime,

00:20:40.366 --> 00:20:43.733
this is not a crime
that the juvenile system

00:20:43.766 --> 00:20:46.533
is capable of handling.

00:20:46.566 --> 00:20:50.233
What do you do with someone
like this

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who is so dangerous
that they plot out

00:20:53.600 --> 00:20:55.600
the execution of a classmate

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in front of a whole classroom
full of people?

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What do you do
with someone like that?

00:21:04.733 --> 00:21:06.833
And it\'s not always easy.

00:21:34.266 --> 00:21:38.466
- I was working
at a grocery store in Arkansas.

00:21:38.500 --> 00:21:39.833
I met this truck driver,

00:21:39.900 --> 00:21:41.833
and he was going
to Oxnard, California,

00:21:41.900 --> 00:21:43.466
and wanted to know
if I wanted to go,

00:21:43.500 --> 00:21:45.466
and I said, \"Sure.\"

00:21:45.500 --> 00:21:48.233
So I jumped in his truck
the next morning,

00:21:48.266 --> 00:21:51.800
and we drove out here.

00:21:51.833 --> 00:21:54.000
I\'d never seen anything
so beautiful in my life,

00:21:54.066 --> 00:21:57.133
and so I went home
and got James and Jeremy

00:21:57.166 --> 00:21:59.900
and moved here.

00:21:59.933 --> 00:22:02.966
- She came here with me
and my brother on her own,

00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:05.566
and she met a guy who was
willing to help her and stuff,

00:22:05.633 --> 00:22:07.866
and that was a big thing.

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He was the head sales manager
for Cal Coast Motorsports.

00:22:11.733 --> 00:22:14.233
- He promised me everything

00:22:14.300 --> 00:22:17.466
and bought me everything
and gave me everything,

00:22:17.500 --> 00:22:19.566
and I got married when
I was pregnant with Brandon.

00:22:19.633 --> 00:22:20.800
[driving rock music]

00:22:20.833 --> 00:22:22.033
- [singing] Look out

00:22:22.066 --> 00:22:25.133
Yeah, yeah

00:22:25.166 --> 00:22:26.666
Yeah

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Cocked and ready

00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:31.233
Yeah, yeah

00:22:31.300 --> 00:22:32.733
Yeah

00:22:32.800 --> 00:22:34.400
You\'re goddamn right

00:22:34.466 --> 00:22:36.033
I\'m cocked and ready

00:22:36.066 --> 00:22:38.333
- Billy was a fun guy.

00:22:38.366 --> 00:22:41.166
We went camping a lot, you know,
and jet skiing

00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:44.200
and motorcycle riding.

00:22:44.233 --> 00:22:45.633
He seemed totally normal,

00:22:45.666 --> 00:22:47.666
and then once they got,
like, serious, you know,

00:22:47.700 --> 00:22:50.066
and moved in together,
that\'s when it, like,

00:22:50.133 --> 00:22:52.866
just changed overnight.

00:22:52.900 --> 00:22:55.066
- We were at one of my friend\'s
engagement parties,

00:22:55.133 --> 00:22:56.700
and no one really liked him,

00:22:56.733 --> 00:22:58.500
and so I guess he thought
it was a good idea

00:22:58.533 --> 00:23:01.300
that he take a gun with him
to the party.

00:23:01.366 --> 00:23:04.100
Somebody was like,
\"You know, your dude has a gun.

00:23:04.133 --> 00:23:06.300
You guys need
to get out of here.\"

00:23:06.366 --> 00:23:08.933
We finally got home,
and we started fighting.

00:23:08.966 --> 00:23:10.300
- We heard \'em arguing,

00:23:10.366 --> 00:23:11.933
and me and Jeremy got up,

00:23:11.966 --> 00:23:13.466
and we, like, went by the door.

00:23:13.533 --> 00:23:15.566
And, like,
I was, like, peeking out,

00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:17.766
and I could see her,
like, walking up the stairs.

00:23:17.800 --> 00:23:19.466
And he yelled, like,
\"Turn around

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and get back down here,\"

00:23:20.900 --> 00:23:22.533
and she was like, \"No,\"
whatever,

00:23:22.566 --> 00:23:24.266
and he\'s like, \"I\'ll shoot.\"

00:23:24.300 --> 00:23:27.433
And next thing you know, he did.

00:23:27.466 --> 00:23:29.700
I walked out there, and she was
laying on the stairs,

00:23:29.733 --> 00:23:31.733
and she, like, yelled at me
to go back in the room.

00:23:31.766 --> 00:23:33.966
And I could hear Billy,

00:23:34.033 --> 00:23:36.600
like, on the phone with 911
lying about it,

00:23:36.633 --> 00:23:38.233
like, \"It went off.
I didn\'t mean to.

00:23:38.266 --> 00:23:40.233
It just went off.\"

00:23:40.266 --> 00:23:42.366
They, like, tried to, like,
put things over our heads

00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:44.300
so we couldn\'t see,
but I still saw.

00:23:44.366 --> 00:23:46.600
There was just, like,
blood everywhere,

00:23:46.633 --> 00:23:48.733
all over the wall,
all over the stairs.

00:23:48.766 --> 00:23:50.366
Like,
when you have wet shoes on,

00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:51.733
you hear, like, squish;

00:23:51.766 --> 00:23:53.066
like, that\'s what it
sounded like

00:23:53.100 --> 00:23:55.866
when you were walking
down the stairs.

00:23:55.900 --> 00:23:59.033
- And I found out the bullet
went through my arm,

00:23:59.066 --> 00:24:01.133
through a wall,
through a water heater,

00:24:01.166 --> 00:24:05.133
and landed right next to Jeremy
on a pillow.

00:24:05.166 --> 00:24:10.166
It was a .45 automatic
with a hollow-point bullet.

00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:16.166
[somber music]

00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:21.300
- Larry had a very sad
and difficult life.

00:24:21.333 --> 00:24:23.766
He was adopted

00:24:23.800 --> 00:24:29.133
by people
who took his brother as well,

00:24:29.166 --> 00:24:31.633
but even after he
and his brother were adopted,

00:24:31.666 --> 00:24:34.800
he had a pretty rough life.

00:24:34.833 --> 00:24:36.300
- Larry would go to school,

00:24:36.333 --> 00:24:38.766
and he would keep his jacket on
or something,

00:24:38.800 --> 00:24:42.766
and when he finally took it off
or, you know, you saw,

00:24:42.800 --> 00:24:46.033
he would have bruises
everywhere.

00:24:47.633 --> 00:24:49.600
- And the county
had been working to get him out.

00:24:49.633 --> 00:24:53.600
There was, like, 22 complaints
about abuse,

00:24:53.633 --> 00:24:56.466
and all of \'em went unfounded.

00:24:59.500 --> 00:25:01.533
Probation took him
out of the home

00:25:01.566 --> 00:25:06.166
for some bogus vandalism
and theft.

00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:11.333
It was, um, stealing food
from their own refrigerator.

00:25:11.366 --> 00:25:12.600
Yeah.

00:25:15.566 --> 00:25:18.066
They detained him
at the Juvenile Justice Center,

00:25:18.100 --> 00:25:20.533
I believe for one night,
before he went before the judge,

00:25:20.566 --> 00:25:22.266
and the judge
placed him with us.

00:25:24.033 --> 00:25:27.000
- The last months,
he was living in Casa Pacifica,

00:25:27.033 --> 00:25:30.733
which is a locally run shelter

00:25:30.766 --> 00:25:33.200
for abused
and neglected children.

00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:37.666
- I knew of him before he came.

00:25:37.700 --> 00:25:39.933
We had been working
with Larry and his family

00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.066
for several years in their home.

00:25:42.100 --> 00:25:43.533
They just struggled as a family.

00:25:43.566 --> 00:25:47.166
There was just a lot of issues,

00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:50.000
I think a lot to do
with his orientation

00:25:50.033 --> 00:25:53.566
and what he was trying to learn
about himself.

00:25:55.266 --> 00:25:59.366
- His parents never showed
that they really loved him.

00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:01.166
He was so lovable.

00:26:01.233 --> 00:26:05.066
I mean,
he was the nicest person.

00:26:05.100 --> 00:26:10.100
[somber piano music]

00:26:13.100 --> 00:26:15.466
- Any, like, bruises
or anything I ever saw

00:26:15.500 --> 00:26:18.233
I always thought was
from martial arts.

00:26:18.266 --> 00:26:20.233
\'Cause he always was,
like, really tough.

00:26:20.266 --> 00:26:22.966
So I just thought
anything was from that.

00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:24.733
Like, I never really thought...

00:26:24.766 --> 00:26:26.500
I was really innocent in that.

00:26:28.733 --> 00:26:30.633
It was on Fourth of July,
the first time.

00:26:30.666 --> 00:26:33.233
We drank, like, a beer, I think,

00:26:33.266 --> 00:26:34.933
and one beer,
when you\'re that little,

00:26:34.966 --> 00:26:38.133
you definitely feel it.

00:26:38.166 --> 00:26:40.966
- One time he drank,
he was, like, dating Sam,

00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:42.800
and Billy caught him
and punched him in the face

00:26:42.833 --> 00:26:44.333
right in front of everybody.

00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:46.266
I found out the next day
that he had a broken nose.

00:26:46.300 --> 00:26:48.266
Like, it was just
out of control.

00:26:48.300 --> 00:26:52.100
And he\'s, like, 12 years old.

00:26:52.133 --> 00:26:55.733
He\'s getting hit in the face
by a grown man.

00:26:55.766 --> 00:27:01.833
[melancholy flute
and guitar music]

00:27:06.900 --> 00:27:08.500
- The students in my classroom

00:27:08.533 --> 00:27:11.966
requested counseling
day after day after day,

00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:13.366
and they weren\'t getting it.

00:27:15.633 --> 00:27:16.833
- They didn\'t do anything,

00:27:16.866 --> 00:27:19.166
and school went, like...

00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:21.133
My mom got a call
saying that school

00:27:21.166 --> 00:27:24.466
would, like, go back
into session, like, that day.

00:27:26.300 --> 00:27:28.066
- They don\'t care
about what happened.

00:27:28.133 --> 00:27:30.500
- They care more
about swine flu...

00:27:30.533 --> 00:27:31.533
- Than they did about Larry.

00:27:31.566 --> 00:27:33.166
It\'s ridiculous.
- Yeah.

00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:35.966
- Like, at least one
of our teachers every period

00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:37.833
talked about the swine flu.

00:27:40.233 --> 00:27:42.533
- I requested
the kids get laptops

00:27:42.566 --> 00:27:43.866
because some of those kids

00:27:43.900 --> 00:27:45.300
were going back
to a computer lab

00:27:45.333 --> 00:27:46.866
that they had run into

00:27:46.900 --> 00:27:48.900
after watching somebody
get shot,

00:27:48.966 --> 00:27:51.133
and the school didn\'t stop it.

00:27:51.166 --> 00:27:53.166
Can somebody just take us
to Disneyland

00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.200
so we can have one day
all together?

00:27:56.233 --> 00:27:58.866
Because it was fresh right then.

00:27:58.900 --> 00:28:00.233
I even called Disneyland.

00:28:00.366 --> 00:28:01.533
They don\'t do that.

00:28:01.566 --> 00:28:02.933
They don\'t do school shootings.

00:28:05.633 --> 00:28:07.300
- And then they just leave us

00:28:07.366 --> 00:28:09.733
to, like, pretty much
fend for ourselves

00:28:09.766 --> 00:28:12.966
when we don\'t know how to,
because we\'re young,

00:28:13.033 --> 00:28:16.633
and no one gets taught how to
go through something like that.

00:28:22.700 --> 00:28:27.600
- Every single adult
just fucked up everything

00:28:27.633 --> 00:28:30.266
at every step of the way
and continues to,

00:28:30.300 --> 00:28:33.800
and that\'s, I think,
what\'s so frustrating for me.

00:28:33.866 --> 00:28:37.300
No one noticed
for years and years,

00:28:37.366 --> 00:28:41.766
and now we just want to say,
\"Uh, sorry, that\'s old.\"

00:28:43.600 --> 00:28:45.766
- The judge in the trial
of an Oxnard teenager

00:28:45.800 --> 00:28:47.700
accused of murdering
a gay classmate

00:28:47.733 --> 00:28:49.633
is scheduled
to hear a new motion today

00:28:49.700 --> 00:28:51.566
for a change of venue
that is likely to cause

00:28:51.600 --> 00:28:54.066
another major delay.

00:28:54.100 --> 00:28:56.266
- The purpose of the change
of venue motion, obviously,

00:28:56.300 --> 00:28:59.466
is to protect the defendant
from press coverage

00:28:59.533 --> 00:29:03.600
which has turned the public
against him.

00:29:03.633 --> 00:29:05.166
Where are we gonna go?

00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.433
Because the saturation
is not just local.

00:29:07.466 --> 00:29:09.300
It\'s nationwide.

00:29:18.500 --> 00:29:20.800
What if we wind up
in San Francisco County?

00:29:20.833 --> 00:29:22.800
[chuckles]

00:29:22.833 --> 00:29:25.200
I... I\'d volunteer for that.

00:29:25.266 --> 00:29:26.466
[laughs]

00:29:26.500 --> 00:29:28.633
- Superior Court Judge Campbell

00:29:28.666 --> 00:29:30.000
refused to move the trial,

00:29:30.033 --> 00:29:31.433
but that doesn\'t mean the trial

00:29:31.466 --> 00:29:32.966
will get under way anytime soon.

00:29:36.266 --> 00:29:38.433
- I get probably two letters
a week.

00:29:38.466 --> 00:29:40.266
He just got his first package,

00:29:40.300 --> 00:29:45.700
and it\'s all about cheese
and peanut butter and jelly.

00:29:45.766 --> 00:29:48.166
[sniffles]

00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:49.633
He loves peanut butter
and jelly.

00:29:51.133 --> 00:29:52.666
For a long time,

00:29:52.700 --> 00:29:54.766
Brandon thought that
he was gonna get bailed out,

00:29:54.800 --> 00:29:56.933
and it was devastating
when we had to tell him

00:29:56.966 --> 00:29:59.433
that that wasn\'t gonna happen.

00:30:03.166 --> 00:30:05.766
I think that really devastated
Billy, too,

00:30:05.800 --> 00:30:09.766
that he... he knew
that he wasn\'t gonna be able

00:30:09.800 --> 00:30:11.766
to bail Brandon out of jail.

00:30:14.666 --> 00:30:18.200
And, you know,
that promising him stuff

00:30:18.266 --> 00:30:19.833
that he just couldn\'t...

00:30:19.866 --> 00:30:22.700
It was just un... unrealistic.

00:30:24.600 --> 00:30:27.333
[gasps]

00:30:27.366 --> 00:30:30.366
[sobbing]

00:30:33.633 --> 00:30:38.633
[gentle piano music]

00:30:44.700 --> 00:30:47.300
- He had the stability
of being here for 4 1/2 months,

00:30:47.333 --> 00:30:50.333
which I think was helpful
for him to begin to heal.

00:30:57.333 --> 00:30:58.633
- I was in the system

00:30:58.666 --> 00:31:02.100
from when I was 5
to when I was 18.

00:31:02.166 --> 00:31:03.666
I moved, group home
to group home,

00:31:03.700 --> 00:31:07.033
but I always ended up here.

00:31:07.066 --> 00:31:08.433
At Casa Pacifica,

00:31:08.500 --> 00:31:10.233
it\'s home, man.

00:31:10.266 --> 00:31:12.566
It\'s...

00:31:12.600 --> 00:31:15.100
it\'s home.

00:31:15.166 --> 00:31:18.000
Larry showed his true self here.

00:31:18.033 --> 00:31:20.500
He felt comfortable
around where he was,

00:31:20.533 --> 00:31:22.433
so he started coming out.

00:31:23.766 --> 00:31:25.600
This is Larry\'s.

00:31:27.866 --> 00:31:29.933
There was this staff member
that could sing, you know.

00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.033
She was unbelievably good,

00:31:32.066 --> 00:31:33.933
so he was like,
\"Oh, all right.\"

00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:35.433
And then he\'s singing.

00:31:35.500 --> 00:31:37.400
He... oh, my gosh.

00:31:37.433 --> 00:31:38.833
That kid had a voice.

00:31:38.866 --> 00:31:41.500
I... it\'s amazing.

00:31:41.533 --> 00:31:43.700
Larry was a active kid,

00:31:43.733 --> 00:31:46.166
always with people,
laughing, smiling.

00:31:50.700 --> 00:31:52.233
- When he was at Casa Pacifica,

00:31:52.266 --> 00:31:55.833
he was the happiest kid.

00:31:57.400 --> 00:31:59.666
I mean, it was like

00:31:59.700 --> 00:32:01.500
a total change.

00:32:01.566 --> 00:32:03.933
I mean, it was amazing.

00:32:03.966 --> 00:32:05.166
And people like to say,

00:32:05.233 --> 00:32:06.966
\"Oh, it got him more flamboyant.

00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.733
He started dressing out more.\"

00:32:08.766 --> 00:32:10.066
No, he started dressing out more

00:32:10.100 --> 00:32:12.733
because he felt better
about himself.

00:32:22.433 --> 00:32:24.600
- When Brandon was, like, eight,

00:32:24.633 --> 00:32:28.100
I came home and told James
that I had quit my job at Vons,

00:32:28.133 --> 00:32:32.500
and he said,
\"You... you fucked up,

00:32:32.566 --> 00:32:34.566
and I bet you we\'re gonna be
homeless in six months,\"

00:32:34.600 --> 00:32:37.966
and we were homeless
pretty much in six months.

00:32:39.933 --> 00:32:41.766
- My mom was on drugs,

00:32:41.800 --> 00:32:44.666
like, the whole time
I was growing up...

00:32:46.500 --> 00:32:48.933
Living the life of a zombie,

00:32:48.966 --> 00:32:51.966
just high all the time.

00:32:53.600 --> 00:32:55.466
I moved out
when I was, like, 17.

00:32:55.500 --> 00:32:56.600
I wasn\'t even 18 yet.

00:32:56.633 --> 00:32:57.733
I just moved out,

00:32:57.766 --> 00:32:59.433
\'cause we were homeless anyways.

00:33:01.633 --> 00:33:05.000
- Brandon went to live
with Billy at Grandpa\'s house.

00:33:05.033 --> 00:33:06.400
- It might not sound good,

00:33:06.466 --> 00:33:08.366
but it was most likely
better for him

00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:11.800
to be with Billy at that point.

00:33:11.833 --> 00:33:14.300
- And he had Billy
up on this high pedestal,

00:33:14.333 --> 00:33:18.533
and Billy fell off,
and he fell off hard and far.

00:33:20.133 --> 00:33:21.800
- He would seriously
take Brandon with him

00:33:21.833 --> 00:33:23.366
on his drug runs,

00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:25.633
like, when he was smoking
crystal meth and stuff.

00:33:25.666 --> 00:33:27.833
And Brandon
would be sitting there

00:33:27.866 --> 00:33:29.300
in their living room, sleeping.

00:33:29.333 --> 00:33:30.566
He would, like, crawl

00:33:30.633 --> 00:33:33.133
under the coffee tables
and fall asleep

00:33:33.166 --> 00:33:35.666
just to, like, kind of be
out of sight of everybody.

00:33:35.700 --> 00:33:37.366
- There was times
when I\'d pick Brandon up,

00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.200
and he...
His knuckles were sore

00:33:39.233 --> 00:33:40.666
from being out
in the front yard,

00:33:40.700 --> 00:33:42.400
hitting the...
The tree in the front yard.

00:33:42.466 --> 00:33:43.733
They would be bloody.

00:33:45.666 --> 00:33:46.866
[sobbing]
You know,

00:33:46.900 --> 00:33:48.200
he wanted out of that house
so bad,

00:33:48.233 --> 00:33:49.633
and every time
that he was with me,

00:33:49.666 --> 00:33:51.666
he was begging me
to get a place to live

00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:53.200
so he could come live with me,

00:33:53.233 --> 00:33:54.633
\'cause I lived at the rehabs
for so long.

00:33:54.666 --> 00:33:55.900
And I couldn\'t do it.

00:33:55.966 --> 00:33:57.200
- Tears were coming
down his face

00:33:57.233 --> 00:33:58.466
when he was saying how,

00:33:58.500 --> 00:33:59.666
\"James, don\'t make me go home.

00:33:59.700 --> 00:34:00.966
I don\'t want to go.\"

00:34:01.033 --> 00:34:03.466
- And, you know,
we all got to leave

00:34:03.533 --> 00:34:05.733
Billy\'s situation,
and he didn\'t.

00:34:15.733 --> 00:34:19.733
- A real family is what he got
at Casa Pacifica,

00:34:19.766 --> 00:34:23.033
and he felt stronger.

00:34:23.066 --> 00:34:24.400
He wanted to change,

00:34:24.433 --> 00:34:26.100
be a new person,

00:34:26.133 --> 00:34:28.800
and that\'s who
his alter ego was.

00:34:28.866 --> 00:34:33.866
[upbeat music]

00:34:36.566 --> 00:34:38.700
[people scoffing]

00:34:38.733 --> 00:34:40.200
[heel clacks]

00:34:40.233 --> 00:34:41.800
One day, he would be Laquisha

00:34:41.866 --> 00:34:43.900
and then the next,
like, Latonya,

00:34:43.933 --> 00:34:46.366
but it always started
with \"La.\"

00:34:47.933 --> 00:34:51.433
Everyone knew
that Larry was part black.

00:34:51.466 --> 00:34:53.066
[people grunting]

00:34:53.100 --> 00:34:55.866
So it was like a generic
kind of black name.

00:34:55.900 --> 00:34:58.900
You don\'t mess
with Latoya or Latonya.

00:34:58.933 --> 00:35:02.700
You know, you don\'t...
You don\'t mess with her.

00:35:02.766 --> 00:35:05.200
At first, people didn\'t talk
to him at all.

00:35:05.266 --> 00:35:07.200
They thought he was crazy.

00:35:07.266 --> 00:35:10.000
I think that\'s kind of
the thing he wanted.

00:35:10.033 --> 00:35:13.100
If they didn\'t talk to him,
they weren\'t bothering him.

00:35:13.133 --> 00:35:16.600
It was just kind of relief,

00:35:16.633 --> 00:35:21.633
and so that\'s kind of
who that person was to him.

00:35:21.666 --> 00:35:24.366
It\'s kind of who
he wished he was.

00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:27.033
- I don\'t think
that Larry is gay.

00:35:27.100 --> 00:35:28.500
He\'s transgendered.

00:35:28.533 --> 00:35:30.533
It\'s a big difference.

00:35:30.600 --> 00:35:33.533
I think that he was born
in the wrong age.

00:35:33.600 --> 00:35:37.100
Hopefully within
the next 100 years,

00:35:37.133 --> 00:35:38.633
it will be perfectly acceptable

00:35:38.666 --> 00:35:41.633
without the totally disgusting
circumstances

00:35:41.666 --> 00:35:44.833
that I\'ve had to grow up with.

00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:51.533
- I was out in the open...
eighth grade.

00:35:51.600 --> 00:35:54.700
I... I actually regret
the decision very much.

00:35:54.766 --> 00:35:56.933
- Practically the whole school
is Latino,

00:35:56.966 --> 00:35:59.333
so they\'re like, \"Oh, gay\"...

00:35:59.366 --> 00:36:01.400
- There\'s a lot
of misconceptions, and...

00:36:01.433 --> 00:36:04.233
- My parents would...
Sent me to, like... like, therapy

00:36:04.266 --> 00:36:08.066
with, like, some medical doctor
for, like, a year and a half,

00:36:08.100 --> 00:36:10.066
like trying to fix it,
see what\'s wrong with me

00:36:10.100 --> 00:36:11.433
and all this.

00:36:11.500 --> 00:36:13.166
But, like, the doctor
ended up saying,

00:36:13.200 --> 00:36:15.066
like, how I\'m perfectly fine

00:36:15.100 --> 00:36:16.866
and my parents are just,
like, old-fashioned

00:36:16.900 --> 00:36:18.533
and they\'re not open-minded.

00:36:18.566 --> 00:36:20.566
- The occasional assault...
\"pinche maricón\"...

00:36:20.600 --> 00:36:22.533
Which is the equivalent
of like, \"fucking fag\"...

00:36:22.566 --> 00:36:24.033
That\'s what I hear.
- Yeah.

00:36:24.066 --> 00:36:26.233
- Because... and, you know...
Or... or...

00:36:26.266 --> 00:36:28.233
- Or just faggot in general.
- \"No se es joto.\"

00:36:28.266 --> 00:36:30.766
You know, \"Don\'t be...
Don\'t be gay, ugh.\"

00:36:30.833 --> 00:36:33.100
- Oh, and then when people say,
\"Oh, that\'s gay.\"

00:36:33.166 --> 00:36:34.400
- That...
- That gets you so mad.

00:36:34.433 --> 00:36:35.566
- [grunting]

00:36:35.600 --> 00:36:37.100
It\'s just basically ignorance.

00:36:37.166 --> 00:36:39.433
That, um... that is the plague
of our school.

00:36:39.500 --> 00:36:43.266
[indistinct chatter]

00:36:43.333 --> 00:36:45.366
- When Brandon told me
that Larry came to school

00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.833
in high heels,
I was like, \"Why?\"

00:36:47.866 --> 00:36:49.933
- I had a Black Flag...
It\'s this punk rock band.

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:51.400
It was a white shirt

00:36:51.433 --> 00:36:52.833
but with the Black Flag symbol
underneath,

00:36:52.866 --> 00:36:54.600
and you could see it
through my uniform.

00:36:54.666 --> 00:36:56.233
And instead of just telling me
to take it off...

00:36:56.266 --> 00:36:57.666
You know,
\"Take off your undershirt\"...

00:36:57.700 --> 00:36:59.166
They suspended me for it.

00:36:59.200 --> 00:37:01.166
- I got in trouble
for everything.

00:37:01.233 --> 00:37:02.800
No collar...
I would try to go to shirts...

00:37:02.833 --> 00:37:05.233
I\'d try to wear a white...
Regular white shirt

00:37:05.266 --> 00:37:07.233
and not have a collar
and try to get away with it.

00:37:07.266 --> 00:37:08.933
- But if it\'s
a uniform, dress code school,

00:37:08.966 --> 00:37:10.500
how come that one kid

00:37:10.566 --> 00:37:13.166
got an exception
from everybody else?

00:37:20.233 --> 00:37:22.166
- Larry only accessorized
his school uniform

00:37:22.233 --> 00:37:24.166
for two weeks
prior to his murder.

00:37:24.233 --> 00:37:26.166
[gentle acoustic guitar music]

00:37:26.233 --> 00:37:29.600
The first day
that I saw him accessorized,

00:37:29.633 --> 00:37:31.633
I called the district office,

00:37:31.666 --> 00:37:33.966
and the district office
asked me,

00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.166
did it say in our policy

00:37:36.233 --> 00:37:37.666
that girls
could not wear makeup?

00:37:37.733 --> 00:37:39.400
And I said, \"No.\"

00:37:39.433 --> 00:37:42.500
\"Then you cannot tell him
that he cannot wear makeup.\"

00:37:42.566 --> 00:37:44.500
There was a law that had
just passed in California,

00:37:44.566 --> 00:37:47.766
SB 777, regarding
not discriminating

00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.266
on gender identity
or sexual orientation

00:37:50.300 --> 00:37:52.400
in the educational environment.

00:37:52.433 --> 00:37:55.400
I told Larry,
\"If you want to come to school

00:37:55.433 --> 00:37:58.466
\"and accessorize your clothing,
then you may.

00:37:58.500 --> 00:38:01.033
\"However, it\'s going to be
very difficult,

00:38:01.066 --> 00:38:03.500
and if you can get through it,
more power to you.\"

00:38:03.533 --> 00:38:06.300
[heels clacking]

00:38:06.333 --> 00:38:07.700
- He asked his teachers

00:38:07.733 --> 00:38:10.700
to call him Latisha
instead of Larry.

00:38:10.733 --> 00:38:13.033
That made some students
so uncomfortable,

00:38:13.066 --> 00:38:14.300
they bullied him.

00:38:14.333 --> 00:38:15.833
- Using the \"F\" word

00:38:15.866 --> 00:38:18.300
against a gay, lesbian,
or transgendered student,

00:38:18.333 --> 00:38:20.033
it\'s kind of accepted.

00:38:20.066 --> 00:38:22.166
- More and more teenagers
are coming out.

00:38:22.200 --> 00:38:26.400
Over 80% of them
say there\'s not one adult

00:38:26.466 --> 00:38:28.833
in the school situation
that they consider

00:38:28.866 --> 00:38:31.700
to be supportive or helpful
in any way.

00:38:37.833 --> 00:38:39.800
- I had Larry as a student
the previous year

00:38:39.833 --> 00:38:41.133
as a seventh grader,

00:38:41.166 --> 00:38:43.500
and I knew his inclination.

00:38:43.533 --> 00:38:45.666
He had discussed it with me.

00:38:45.700 --> 00:38:48.800
When he asked me what to do
about the situation,

00:38:48.833 --> 00:38:50.700
my response to him was,

00:38:50.733 --> 00:38:52.666
\"Nothing.

00:38:52.700 --> 00:38:55.633
\"What to do about this situation
is nothing

00:38:55.666 --> 00:38:57.000
\"and to keep it private

00:38:57.033 --> 00:38:58.566
and to dwell upon it.\"

00:38:58.633 --> 00:39:01.033
Larry shouldn\'t have
expressed himself

00:39:01.066 --> 00:39:04.133
so blatantly,
openly transsexual.

00:39:04.200 --> 00:39:06.433
He progressed day by day

00:39:06.466 --> 00:39:09.466
in his outward appearance
as a girl.

00:39:11.466 --> 00:39:13.466
- I was talking to my daughter,

00:39:13.533 --> 00:39:16.300
and she had
her old homecoming dress,

00:39:16.366 --> 00:39:19.700
and everybody knows
you don\'t reuse your dresses,

00:39:19.733 --> 00:39:22.800
so I said,
\"Can I give it to Larry?\"

00:39:24.300 --> 00:39:25.866
And he loved it.

00:39:25.900 --> 00:39:28.866
He just loved it.

00:39:30.566 --> 00:39:33.233
He ran into the bathroom,
and he tried it on.

00:39:33.266 --> 00:39:35.066
And he\'s all, \"Miss Boldrin,
it\'s a little big,

00:39:35.100 --> 00:39:36.700
but it fits great.\"

00:39:36.733 --> 00:39:38.566
My daughter\'s exceptionally
small and petite.

00:39:38.600 --> 00:39:40.066
She\'s like a 00,

00:39:40.100 --> 00:39:42.733
so that\'ll tell you
how small Larry was.

00:39:48.300 --> 00:39:50.766
- Any teacher
with a grain of salt

00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:53.566
really said,
\"It\'s out of control.\"

00:39:53.600 --> 00:39:56.066
I do believe in a heaven
and a hell,

00:39:56.100 --> 00:39:58.966
and I do believe Larry

00:39:59.033 --> 00:40:02.866
honestly did not
even have a clue...

00:40:02.900 --> 00:40:05.066
The consequences of his actions.

00:40:07.266 --> 00:40:10.300
I relate to Brandon
because I could see my own self

00:40:10.366 --> 00:40:13.766
being in that
very same position.

00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:16.233
I don\'t know
if I would\'ve taken a gun.

00:40:18.566 --> 00:40:19.700
But a good, swift...

00:40:19.733 --> 00:40:21.100
[laughs]

00:40:21.133 --> 00:40:23.933
kick in the butt
might work really well.

00:40:23.966 --> 00:40:26.033
I know you\'re visiting.

00:40:26.066 --> 00:40:27.966
You are a nosy parker.

00:40:28.033 --> 00:40:29.433
Larry had a special need,

00:40:29.466 --> 00:40:31.966
this individualized
educational program,

00:40:32.033 --> 00:40:34.400
which is IEP,
where there are behaviors

00:40:34.433 --> 00:40:36.566
that you\'re trying to extinguish
in the classroom.

00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.533
- Larry had a behavior goal:

00:40:45.566 --> 00:40:48.133
to not do
exactly what he was doing

00:40:48.200 --> 00:40:50.133
in the weeks before he died.

00:40:52.766 --> 00:40:56.100
It\'s a legally binding document.

00:40:56.133 --> 00:40:57.800
It should\'ve been enforced

00:40:57.866 --> 00:41:01.366
like any other legal document.

00:41:01.433 --> 00:41:03.466
- [speaking indistinctly]

00:41:03.500 --> 00:41:06.466
- Other teachers
had a lot of issues with Larry,

00:41:06.500 --> 00:41:08.766
and because I didn\'t have any,

00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.766
they didn\'t like the way
I was handling my situation.

00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.666
I didn\'t run around
and tell everybody,

00:41:15.700 --> 00:41:19.666
\"I gave Larry a dress.
I gave Larry a dress.

00:41:19.700 --> 00:41:21.666
\"I\'m the really cool angel
on the horse

00:41:21.700 --> 00:41:23.133
\"coming down and saving

00:41:23.166 --> 00:41:25.000
all the little
transgender children.\"

00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.000
- I\'ve been teaching
for 30 years.

00:41:29.033 --> 00:41:33.666
Junior high boys, especially,
are homophobic.

00:41:33.700 --> 00:41:35.300
I was convinced that the kids

00:41:35.333 --> 00:41:36.633
would take it in their own hands

00:41:36.666 --> 00:41:39.300
since we did not.

00:41:40.766 --> 00:41:43.366
The Thursday
before Larry was shot,

00:41:43.433 --> 00:41:45.133
I went in to my principal,
and I said,

00:41:45.166 --> 00:41:47.333
\"If you don\'t physically
come in there

00:41:47.366 --> 00:41:50.466
\"and do something
to stop Larry\'s progression,

00:41:50.500 --> 00:41:51.866
\"the boys of this school

00:41:51.933 --> 00:41:53.966
\"are gonna take him out
behind the shed

00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:55.800
and beat him to death.\"

00:41:55.833 --> 00:41:58.533
- [singing]
Come up for air sometime

00:41:58.600 --> 00:42:00.700
- You gave him a dress

00:42:00.733 --> 00:42:03.233
and thought he was queen
for a day,

00:42:03.266 --> 00:42:06.233
and... wow.

00:42:06.266 --> 00:42:07.733
All of a sudden, he\'s dead.

00:42:07.766 --> 00:42:10.866
- [singing] Some kind of burning

00:42:10.900 --> 00:42:12.666
- I\'m quite sure
Larry would not be dead

00:42:12.700 --> 00:42:15.400
if he had been my student
that year.

00:42:20.700 --> 00:42:22.533
- After Larry\'s death,

00:42:22.566 --> 00:42:26.900
a gay pride rainbow group
of about 1,500 people

00:42:26.933 --> 00:42:31.666
are marching down C Street
right in front of our school.

00:42:31.700 --> 00:42:34.100
Now, who orchestrated
that gay pride?

00:42:34.166 --> 00:42:36.866
In 14 years of teaching there,

00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:38.700
I\'ve never seen that.

00:42:41.266 --> 00:42:44.100
Never seen it
in the city of Oxnard,

00:42:44.166 --> 00:42:47.200
and right in front
of our school?

00:42:47.233 --> 00:42:48.733
What is that?

00:42:48.766 --> 00:42:50.500
Who orchestrated that?

00:42:51.700 --> 00:42:53.233
I have huge questions,

00:42:53.266 --> 00:42:55.100
huge questions.

00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:05.333
- It\'s that tree right there
with the big stakes.

00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:07.333
It\'s an Australian willow tree.

00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.500
- [singing]
Saw it through the window

00:43:09.566 --> 00:43:11.133
- It\'s a place to go
where you can remember

00:43:11.166 --> 00:43:12.733
anyone you want to remember,

00:43:12.766 --> 00:43:14.433
and they don\'t
have to necessarily be dead.

00:43:14.466 --> 00:43:15.733
It can be anyone,

00:43:15.766 --> 00:43:17.500
just anyone
you want to remember.

00:43:17.566 --> 00:43:19.400
And Larry was
my inspiration for it,

00:43:19.433 --> 00:43:23.133
but I can\'t really say
that it was for Larry

00:43:23.166 --> 00:43:25.466
on the plaque
that I\'m trying to get,

00:43:25.500 --> 00:43:28.666
because, um,
of school policy and stuff.

00:43:28.733 --> 00:43:30.833
They don\'t want
to bring it up again.

00:43:32.466 --> 00:43:35.500
- Everybody\'s extremely scared
to talk.

00:43:35.566 --> 00:43:37.433
They\'re very scared.

00:43:37.466 --> 00:43:39.933
The day they sent me
my termination letter,

00:43:39.966 --> 00:43:42.566
I told them,
\"You better as hell send me

00:43:42.600 --> 00:43:45.400
a really nice
recommendation letter, then.\"

00:43:45.433 --> 00:43:47.733
And this is what came
the next day.

00:43:47.766 --> 00:43:49.800
\"At this time,
Mrs. Boldrin feels the need

00:43:49.833 --> 00:43:51.333
to change
her teaching environment.\"

00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:52.600
Right.

00:43:52.633 --> 00:43:54.300
\"Unfortunately, we do not have

00:43:54.333 --> 00:43:56.800
other teaching positions
that meet her needs.\"

00:43:56.833 --> 00:43:58.100
Right.

00:43:58.133 --> 00:43:59.466
\"Therefore,
I support her efforts

00:43:59.500 --> 00:44:00.900
\"to find a position

00:44:00.966 --> 00:44:02.566
that will give her
what she needs.\"

00:44:05.166 --> 00:44:07.400
I was extremely concerned

00:44:07.466 --> 00:44:09.566
as I started working
for Starbucks,

00:44:09.633 --> 00:44:13.033
one, that I was gonna go bald
wearing a hat.

00:44:19.366 --> 00:44:21.366
I feel really bad.

00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.200
Come brew coffee
at Starbucks with me and...

00:44:24.233 --> 00:44:30.066
At Vons, and go from
your $55-an-hour job to $9.

00:44:30.133 --> 00:44:31.966
See what it\'s like.

00:44:34.066 --> 00:44:35.866
- Larry King and I
share more in common

00:44:35.900 --> 00:44:37.133
than just our names.

00:44:37.166 --> 00:44:38.666
We both believe
that all students

00:44:38.700 --> 00:44:40.000
should be free to be themselves

00:44:40.033 --> 00:44:41.900
without the fear
of name-calling,

00:44:41.966 --> 00:44:43.566
bullying, or harassment.

00:44:43.633 --> 00:44:45.666
Hundreds of thousands
of students

00:44:45.700 --> 00:44:48.566
will take a vow of silence
on April 25th

00:44:48.633 --> 00:44:52.500
as part of the 12th annual
National Day of Silence.

00:44:52.533 --> 00:44:55.133
They\'ll honor the memory
of 15-year-old Larry King

00:44:55.166 --> 00:44:56.800
and the countless other students

00:44:56.833 --> 00:44:58.866
who have had their voices
taken from them

00:44:58.900 --> 00:45:01.766
simply because
of their sexual orientation

00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:03.433
or gender expression.

00:45:03.466 --> 00:45:08.466
[melancholy music]

00:45:47.566 --> 00:45:50.533
- He wasn\'t afraid
to be who he was.

00:45:50.566 --> 00:45:53.566
Everyone was making fun of him.

00:45:53.600 --> 00:45:55.100
I didn\'t know
what my friends would say

00:45:55.133 --> 00:45:57.033
if they saw me around him,

00:45:57.066 --> 00:46:00.533
so I just kept my distance.

00:46:07.333 --> 00:46:09.866
- I feel guilty
\'cause I know there were times

00:46:09.933 --> 00:46:12.133
that I said things
to make fun of him.

00:46:18.666 --> 00:46:20.266
- I feel extremely guilty.

00:46:20.300 --> 00:46:21.833
He had asked me,

00:46:21.866 --> 00:46:24.000
\"How come you feel
so comfortable with yourself?

00:46:24.033 --> 00:46:27.433
How can you act, you know,
openly gay?\"

00:46:27.466 --> 00:46:29.300
And I told him, \"Larry,

00:46:29.333 --> 00:46:31.500
\"no one\'s gonna kill you
for who you are.

00:46:31.533 --> 00:46:32.933
\"Everyone\'s different,

00:46:32.966 --> 00:46:34.700
and that\'s just the way
the world is.\"

00:46:34.766 --> 00:46:36.200
And a year later,

00:46:36.266 --> 00:46:38.866
he was shot to death
because of how he was.

00:46:38.933 --> 00:46:41.633
[birds chirping]

00:46:41.666 --> 00:46:44.300
- Larry would always be
in my heart, no matter what.

00:46:46.500 --> 00:46:48.300
I got this when I was 18.

00:46:48.333 --> 00:46:51.833
It says, \"In loving memory
of Larry King.\"

00:46:51.866 --> 00:46:53.166
He taught me things, you know,

00:46:53.200 --> 00:46:54.433
just to be who you are,

00:46:54.466 --> 00:46:56.533
stand up for yourself, you know?

00:46:56.600 --> 00:46:58.266
I mean, I stood up for myself,

00:46:58.300 --> 00:47:00.433
but to be strong.

00:47:00.500 --> 00:47:02.600
- It helped me open up more

00:47:02.666 --> 00:47:06.600
and not care
about what people say

00:47:06.666 --> 00:47:10.266
or how people think
about the way I dress

00:47:10.333 --> 00:47:12.500
or the way I look.

00:47:12.533 --> 00:47:16.000
- [singing]
The truth hurts when you turn 18

00:47:16.033 --> 00:47:19.333
But the truth
gets even less easy

00:47:19.366 --> 00:47:20.666
But what do you know?

00:47:20.700 --> 00:47:21.900
- When he first got shot,

00:47:21.933 --> 00:47:23.400
I used to think, like,

00:47:23.433 --> 00:47:25.833
\"Oh, what if it was me?\"

00:47:25.866 --> 00:47:27.306
People just find out
that you\'re gay,

00:47:27.333 --> 00:47:28.766
and then they\'ll
just go after you.

00:47:28.833 --> 00:47:30.000
- [singing] Daydream

00:47:30.033 --> 00:47:31.766
All the stars around you

00:47:31.833 --> 00:47:33.066
Are setting

00:47:33.100 --> 00:47:34.700
- It was the day of the murder.

00:47:34.733 --> 00:47:36.666
Once we were able
to leave the school campus,

00:47:36.700 --> 00:47:38.100
she was really scared.

00:47:38.166 --> 00:47:40.000
And then, you know,
she just looks at me,

00:47:40.033 --> 00:47:41.366
and she says,
\"Mom, I\'m gay.\"

00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:43.066
[chuckles]

00:47:43.100 --> 00:47:45.200
Okay.

00:47:45.233 --> 00:47:47.433
It was a surprise.

00:47:47.500 --> 00:47:49.566
She wore pink.
She wore spandex.

00:47:49.600 --> 00:47:50.933
[laughing]
She wore everything.

00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:51.933
It wasn\'t the colors.

00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.733
[laughing]

00:47:54.766 --> 00:47:57.066
Her hair... her ponytail
went from up here to lower,

00:47:57.100 --> 00:47:58.333
and... I don\'t know.

00:47:58.366 --> 00:47:59.833
It was just
different little things

00:47:59.866 --> 00:48:01.566
that I would,
you know, look at her

00:48:01.600 --> 00:48:03.733
and... and say, \"Hmm.\"

00:48:03.766 --> 00:48:06.133
[laughs]

00:48:06.166 --> 00:48:08.566
I just wanted her to be sure
that that\'s what she wanted,

00:48:08.600 --> 00:48:09.900
and... and I let her know

00:48:09.933 --> 00:48:11.333
that it was gonna be
really tough.

00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:13.933
- [singing] Rolling down

00:48:13.966 --> 00:48:17.666
- My mom took it good.

00:48:17.733 --> 00:48:20.733
Not all the way,
like, accepting,

00:48:20.766 --> 00:48:22.566
but she said
that if that\'s what I wanted,

00:48:22.600 --> 00:48:25.066
then she would be there for me.

00:48:25.100 --> 00:48:28.300
And my dad just blew it off.

00:48:48.066 --> 00:48:49.633
[sniffles]

00:48:49.666 --> 00:48:55.666
[gentle music]

00:49:00.100 --> 00:49:01.833
- The father
of Brandon Mclnerney,

00:49:01.866 --> 00:49:04.566
the Oxnard boy accused
of killing a classmate,

00:49:04.633 --> 00:49:06.166
was found dead this morning

00:49:06.200 --> 00:49:08.633
just hours before his son
was to appear in court.

00:49:10.966 --> 00:49:13.666
- The medical examiner
says the 45-year-old died

00:49:13.700 --> 00:49:17.000
from a blunt force
head injury related to alcohol.

00:49:17.033 --> 00:49:19.900
A toxicology report is pending.

00:49:21.833 --> 00:49:23.233
- The day he died,

00:49:23.300 --> 00:49:25.466
I just had the biggest smile
on my face.

00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:27.033
I didn\'t give a shit, you know.

00:49:27.066 --> 00:49:28.833
Like, I cried when I had...

00:49:28.866 --> 00:49:30.700
\'cause I had to be the one
to tell Brandon, you know.

00:49:30.733 --> 00:49:32.033
I honestly felt that way.

00:49:32.066 --> 00:49:33.426
- And even when James
told Brandon,

00:49:33.466 --> 00:49:35.333
the first thing
Brandon said was,

00:49:35.366 --> 00:49:38.166
\"I knew it was gonna happen.
I just didn\'t know when.\"

00:49:47.133 --> 00:49:49.900
- And he didn\'t even cry.
I was the only one crying.

00:49:49.966 --> 00:49:53.866
And that\'s what scared
the crap out of me.

00:49:53.900 --> 00:49:56.233
I did not want to leave him.

00:49:56.300 --> 00:49:58.166
Like, when they told us that,
like, we had to go,

00:49:58.200 --> 00:49:59.500
I didn\'t want to go.

00:49:59.533 --> 00:50:01.366
I was afraid
of what he was gonna do.

00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:03.133
And ever since that...
So people go,

00:50:03.166 --> 00:50:04.966
\"He shows no emotion,\"
or whatever.

00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:06.633
Like, Brandon
always showed emotion

00:50:06.666 --> 00:50:08.300
until that day.

00:50:29.466 --> 00:50:30.700
- There it goes.

00:50:32.166 --> 00:50:34.466
The kid on the right
is doing nothing,

00:50:34.500 --> 00:50:35.900
and Mclnerney just stands up

00:50:35.966 --> 00:50:39.500
and, boom,
starts whaling away on him.

00:50:39.533 --> 00:50:41.133
He\'s not used to following
the rules,

00:50:41.166 --> 00:50:44.066
and I believe that he\'s a bully.

00:50:44.133 --> 00:50:47.133
And he\'s kind of a thug.

00:50:47.166 --> 00:50:49.466
I mean, clearly,
there might have been words

00:50:49.500 --> 00:50:51.466
spoken between them,

00:50:51.500 --> 00:50:54.033
but...

00:50:54.066 --> 00:50:56.966
You can see from the film,
it\'s completely unprovoked.

00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:58.666
The kid walks out.

00:50:58.700 --> 00:51:00.566
Mclnerney, who\'s kind of
doing his laundry or something,

00:51:00.600 --> 00:51:02.240
he sees him,
and he just runs over there,

00:51:02.266 --> 00:51:04.266
and the same thing...
He starts beating the guy up.

00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:08.100
Oh, no.

00:51:08.133 --> 00:51:10.733
[sighs]

00:51:10.766 --> 00:51:13.200
Nice!

00:51:13.233 --> 00:51:15.533
[sighs]

00:51:15.566 --> 00:51:16.866
That doesn\'t surprise me

00:51:16.900 --> 00:51:18.400
that they\'re having
a difficult time

00:51:18.433 --> 00:51:21.100
coming up with a defense.

00:51:21.133 --> 00:51:22.900
[sighs]

00:51:24.633 --> 00:51:26.966
- Here\'s one of my subpoenas.

00:51:27.033 --> 00:51:28.300
I have...

00:51:28.366 --> 00:51:29.800
I have, like, a case
full of these,

00:51:29.866 --> 00:51:31.300
but, yeah, it\'s just...

00:51:31.366 --> 00:51:32.900
And I get these all the time.

00:51:32.933 --> 00:51:34.933
And when they call,

00:51:34.966 --> 00:51:36.033
I ignore them,

00:51:36.066 --> 00:51:38.633
simply because...

00:51:38.700 --> 00:51:40.200
nothing\'s going on.

00:51:40.233 --> 00:51:44.066
It... it\'s like every time
they show up for court,

00:51:44.100 --> 00:51:45.766
there\'s a reason
why it isn\'t going.

00:51:48.366 --> 00:51:50.733
- One thing built upon
the previous thing

00:51:50.766 --> 00:51:53.400
to drag out the case,
which is another...

00:51:53.433 --> 00:51:55.600
It\'s a not uncommon
defense tactic...

00:51:55.633 --> 00:51:56.966
Try and wear everybody down

00:51:57.033 --> 00:51:58.933
and hope that they get
a lesser plea

00:51:58.966 --> 00:52:00.700
or witnesses go away.

00:52:00.766 --> 00:52:04.333
That\'s kind of
Defense Lawyer 101.

00:52:04.366 --> 00:52:06.766
- They wanted him
to accept a life sentence.

00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.766
From the get-go, we told them,
\"Well, first of all,

00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:10.300
he should\'ve been
in juvenile court.\"

00:52:10.333 --> 00:52:12.133
We explored and tried
those issues

00:52:12.166 --> 00:52:14.766
and tried to set them up
for appeal, et cetera,

00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:17.300
but, uh...

00:52:17.333 --> 00:52:20.500
The system is only as fair
as the players.

00:52:20.533 --> 00:52:23.933
- Mclnerney, who is being held
at the Juvenile Justice Center,

00:52:23.966 --> 00:52:26.300
will turn 17 January 24th.

00:52:26.333 --> 00:52:28.433
The victim, Lawrence Fobes King,

00:52:28.466 --> 00:52:30.133
would have turned 18.

00:52:30.166 --> 00:52:32.700
And that case
is now going to return to court

00:52:32.766 --> 00:52:35.333
on Valentine\'s Day next year.

00:52:35.366 --> 00:52:38.600
[waves crashing
and seagulls calling]

00:53:02.200 --> 00:53:03.433
- This is the first one

00:53:03.500 --> 00:53:04.900
where he put
\"Samantha Mclnerney,\"

00:53:04.933 --> 00:53:06.733
and I was like,
\"Oh, my gosh.\"

00:53:12.766 --> 00:53:14.500
\"Hey, beautiful, I wish
I could tell you in person

00:53:14.533 --> 00:53:15.900
\"how much I love you,

00:53:15.933 --> 00:53:18.666
\"but it will have to be
on paper for now.

00:53:18.700 --> 00:53:20.266
\"I\'m going to buy
a marriage packet,

00:53:20.333 --> 00:53:23.100
and I\'ll send it to you
whenever.\"

00:53:23.166 --> 00:53:26.333
When I think about a guy
being the one to marry,

00:53:26.366 --> 00:53:27.666
like, for the rest of my life,

00:53:27.700 --> 00:53:30.266
he\'s definitely

00:53:30.333 --> 00:53:33.233
probably my number one pick,

00:53:33.266 --> 00:53:35.766
\'cause he\'s, like, the only one
that\'s ever cared.

00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.666
I just love him

00:53:39.700 --> 00:53:41.433
way too much.

00:53:49.500 --> 00:53:52.100
- Well, when I first looked
at these drawings,

00:53:52.166 --> 00:53:54.833
the first page when we start
seeing lightning bolts...

00:53:54.866 --> 00:53:56.500
Is it doodling?
Is it...

00:53:56.533 --> 00:53:58.700
Okay.

00:53:58.733 --> 00:54:01.166
When I started
getting a little farther

00:54:01.233 --> 00:54:03.166
into the notebook
where I was noticing drawings

00:54:03.233 --> 00:54:05.766
that stood out to me

00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:07.900
to be unusual...

00:54:10.266 --> 00:54:14.000
It\'s not just the book
in his backpack.

00:54:14.066 --> 00:54:18.666
It\'s going through these books.

00:54:18.733 --> 00:54:20.466
\"The 12th SS:

00:54:20.500 --> 00:54:23.133
\"The History of the Hitler
Youth Panzer Division,

00:54:23.166 --> 00:54:25.433
Volume I and II.\"

00:54:25.466 --> 00:54:27.766
If you were to go to any
backpack in the city of Oxnard

00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:29.166
of any kid
in the school district,

00:54:29.233 --> 00:54:30.600
they\'re probably not
going to have

00:54:30.633 --> 00:54:32.833
Volume I and Volume II of this.

00:54:32.900 --> 00:54:35.566
This isn\'t just doing history.

00:54:35.600 --> 00:54:37.600
This is not Anne Frank.

00:54:41.233 --> 00:54:43.466
- The doodling that I saw
in my kids\' notebooks

00:54:43.500 --> 00:54:45.433
were really very interesting,

00:54:45.466 --> 00:54:47.633
but the swastika they would copy

00:54:47.666 --> 00:54:49.466
and... those who are
artistically inclined...

00:54:49.500 --> 00:54:51.400
The whole Adolf Hitler
with the moustache

00:54:51.433 --> 00:54:54.300
and the hand and the heil
and, um...

00:54:54.333 --> 00:54:57.100
You know, walking into class
after being taught

00:54:57.133 --> 00:54:58.833
some of these things
the very next day,

00:54:58.900 --> 00:55:01.333
it\'d be perfectly normal...
\"Heil\"...

00:55:01.366 --> 00:55:03.300
For kids to come in
and say, \"Heil.\"

00:55:05.533 --> 00:55:06.733
- This particular image

00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.900
was the most disturbing for me.

00:55:08.966 --> 00:55:12.333
Seeing the hand
crushing the Star of David

00:55:12.366 --> 00:55:15.033
and the blood coming from it
and its cracks,

00:55:15.066 --> 00:55:17.500
it\'s hard, because I know
Holocaust survivors.

00:55:17.533 --> 00:55:18.973
This is a very, very strong
message.

00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:20.200
This is very, very powerful.

00:55:20.233 --> 00:55:22.200
To me, it\'s...

00:55:22.233 --> 00:55:25.300
This is somebody who\'d want
to see this happen again.

00:55:25.333 --> 00:55:31.333
[distorted heavy metal music]

00:55:38.533 --> 00:55:40.700
It very quickly looked to me
as though I was dealing with,

00:55:40.733 --> 00:55:42.573
at the very least,
a budding white supremacist

00:55:42.633 --> 00:55:44.900
who very well
may have acted against

00:55:44.966 --> 00:55:48.233
his effeminate and far
physically smaller victim

00:55:48.300 --> 00:55:52.733
either because of his sexuality
or because of his race,

00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:55.900
knowing that, uh...
That Larry King was biracial.

00:55:55.966 --> 00:55:58.900
- This is where Brandon
and his friends

00:55:58.966 --> 00:56:01.566
used to hang out.

00:56:01.600 --> 00:56:05.466
Brandon had, like, a thing
for calling people nigger.

00:56:05.533 --> 00:56:07.966
He called me a couple of times,
and I kind of lost it.

00:56:08.033 --> 00:56:09.200
[chuckles]

00:56:09.233 --> 00:56:10.766
And I held off,

00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:12.766
and I socked him in the head
in the middle of class.

00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:14.133
[girl grunting]

00:56:14.200 --> 00:56:17.233
And I didn\'t get in trouble,
in fact,

00:56:17.266 --> 00:56:19.766
because I told my teacher
what had happened,

00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.533
and she wasn\'t gonna put me
in trouble for that.

00:56:22.566 --> 00:56:24.766
And so...

00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:26.033
I was really mad at him.

00:56:26.066 --> 00:56:27.700
And after that,

00:56:27.733 --> 00:56:32.400
he never really ever called me
nigger or anything.

00:56:32.433 --> 00:56:38.433
[melancholy
acoustic guitar music]

00:56:47.866 --> 00:56:50.033
- I am afraid of people
who feel very strongly

00:56:50.066 --> 00:56:52.266
that juveniles
should not be tried as adults,

00:56:52.300 --> 00:56:55.566
because they want to be
on the case so bad

00:56:55.600 --> 00:56:58.433
that they\'ll lie
in jury selection

00:56:58.466 --> 00:56:59.733
when you ask them their feelings

00:56:59.766 --> 00:57:01.033
about a certain subject,

00:57:01.100 --> 00:57:02.333
and I\'m really afraid

00:57:02.366 --> 00:57:05.966
of the stealth homosexual haters

00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.166
in this case.

00:57:08.200 --> 00:57:10.633
I believe they\'re gonna present

00:57:10.666 --> 00:57:12.633
some kind
of a gay panic defense,

00:57:12.666 --> 00:57:17.866
that somehow Larry King,
based on what he did or said,

00:57:17.933 --> 00:57:22.266
provoked Brandon
into doing what he did.

00:57:22.300 --> 00:57:24.600
- This trial finally starts,

00:57:24.633 --> 00:57:26.100
after several years, today.

00:57:26.133 --> 00:57:27.600
Defense attorneys told the jury

00:57:27.633 --> 00:57:29.600
that while Mclnerney
indeed killed King,

00:57:29.633 --> 00:57:31.966
it was not a premeditated act
of murder.

00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:33.766
- Brandon
may have been bullied, too,

00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:35.333
by Larry, in fact.

00:57:35.366 --> 00:57:38.033
Larry had reportedly told people
the two were dating

00:57:38.100 --> 00:57:39.600
but had broken up,

00:57:39.633 --> 00:57:41.633
and just a couple of days
before the shooting,

00:57:41.666 --> 00:57:43.966
classmates say Larry
had asked Brandon

00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:45.500
to be his valentine,

00:57:45.533 --> 00:57:46.866
and Brandon\'s friends joked

00:57:46.933 --> 00:57:49.533
the two would make
gay babies together.

00:57:49.600 --> 00:57:52.766
- What Larry was doing
to Brandon

00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:54.600
was an extreme form of bullying.

00:57:54.633 --> 00:57:58.033
It was an extreme form
of sexual harassment.

00:57:58.100 --> 00:58:00.000
When playing basketball
at lunch,

00:58:00.033 --> 00:58:01.700
Larry had wobbled
onto the court,

00:58:01.733 --> 00:58:03.366
interrupted the game

00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:06.200
in front of all Brandon\'s
basketball buddies

00:58:06.233 --> 00:58:08.666
and asked him
if he would be his valentine.

00:58:10.433 --> 00:58:13.233
To have any guy ask you that
in front of all your peers...

00:58:13.266 --> 00:58:15.933
But to have a guy who\'s wearing
high heels and makeup,

00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:19.500
that would be
like the ultimate humiliation.

00:58:19.533 --> 00:58:22.233
It was very disturbing
to all the boys,

00:58:22.266 --> 00:58:24.033
and so they, you know,
kind of talked about it

00:58:24.066 --> 00:58:26.433
in a guy way, macho way.

00:58:26.500 --> 00:58:28.700
It\'s bad enough to have this kid
who wears girls\' clothes,

00:58:28.733 --> 00:58:30.233
you know,
breaking all the rules,

00:58:30.266 --> 00:58:34.000
but then, you know,
guys don\'t hit on guys.

00:58:34.033 --> 00:58:36.000
If you want
to really insult a guy,

00:58:36.033 --> 00:58:38.733
you call him gay.

00:58:38.766 --> 00:58:42.000
Brandon was thinking that
he needed to get rid of Larry;

00:58:42.033 --> 00:58:44.733
he needed to save everyone
from this...

00:58:44.766 --> 00:58:47.766
You know, this scourge
that had come upon the school.

00:58:59.233 --> 00:59:01.600
[bright piano music]

00:59:01.633 --> 00:59:04.766
- When I think of Larry,
I think of, like, butterflies.

00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:07.766
And there\'s a picture of him
holding, like, a...

00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.133
I think it was a caterpillar...

00:59:10.166 --> 00:59:12.300
Of him just, like, smiling.

00:59:14.333 --> 00:59:17.333
[tattoo needle buzzing]

00:59:20.466 --> 00:59:22.966
This is for Larry.

00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:24.640
The only and last tattoo
I\'m ever getting.

00:59:24.666 --> 00:59:25.766
[chuckles]

00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:29.400
- [singing] Everyone is

00:59:29.433 --> 00:59:32.166
Changing here

00:59:32.233 --> 00:59:36.000
Except me

00:59:36.066 --> 00:59:37.666
- It says, \"Hope.\"

00:59:43.066 --> 00:59:45.266
- Day two took
such an emotional turn

00:59:45.300 --> 00:59:46.600
that we\'re told the bailiff

00:59:46.633 --> 00:59:48.300
had to keep restocking
the courtroom

00:59:48.333 --> 00:59:50.800
with facial tissue
because of all the tears.

00:59:50.833 --> 00:59:53.433
About a half a dozen students
testified,

00:59:53.466 --> 00:59:56.266
saying the same thing,
that King was a loner

00:59:56.300 --> 00:59:58.433
who was ignored
until he came out

00:59:58.466 --> 01:00:00.066
and started wearing makeup
and heels

01:00:00.100 --> 01:00:03.466
and that other students
randomly mocked him.

01:00:03.500 --> 01:00:06.100
One of them, though, that had
the most riveting testimony

01:00:06.133 --> 01:00:08.733
was a girl
known simply as Mariah T.

01:00:08.766 --> 01:00:10.900
She was a friend
of Larry King\'s,

01:00:10.933 --> 01:00:12.833
was also sitting behind him

01:00:12.900 --> 01:00:15.500
when those fatal shots rang out.

01:00:15.566 --> 01:00:16.566
- Just spell your name.

01:00:16.600 --> 01:00:19.600
- M-A-R-I-A-H.

01:00:19.633 --> 01:00:21.166
- Thank you.
Miss Fox?

01:00:21.233 --> 01:00:22.600
- Hi, Mariah.

01:00:22.633 --> 01:00:24.733
Do you remember that morning?

01:00:24.766 --> 01:00:26.100
- Yes.
- What did you see?

01:00:26.133 --> 01:00:27.966
What happened?

01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:30.766
- [sniffles]

01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:32.800
- Breathe.

01:00:32.833 --> 01:00:34.266
You okay?

01:00:34.300 --> 01:00:35.566
- [sobbing]

01:00:35.600 --> 01:00:37.433
- Do you want
to take a break, Mariah?

01:00:37.466 --> 01:00:38.933
- Why don\'t we take a break?

01:00:38.966 --> 01:00:40.566
- Thank you for everything.

01:00:40.600 --> 01:00:42.466
- Walked into the courtroom,

01:00:42.500 --> 01:00:45.800
and I remember seeing her
look over at the defendant,

01:00:45.833 --> 01:00:47.833
and she gets up
on the witness stand.

01:00:47.900 --> 01:00:49.766
I asked her
one or two questions,

01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.466
and she just lost her mind.

01:00:52.500 --> 01:00:54.100
She turned away
from the defendant,

01:00:54.133 --> 01:00:57.900
and she just kind of collapsed
and started sobbing.

01:00:57.933 --> 01:00:59.466
- [sobbing]

01:00:59.500 --> 01:01:01.800
Everyone asked me
how I would react

01:01:01.833 --> 01:01:03.733
if I ever saw Brandon,

01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:06.200
and I always would say
that, like, I would attack him,

01:01:06.233 --> 01:01:07.733
but at the same time, like...

01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:09.233
And I know what it\'s like
to be alone...

01:01:09.300 --> 01:01:13.233
And unfortunately,

01:01:13.300 --> 01:01:15.233
that\'s what he turned to

01:01:15.300 --> 01:01:16.700
because that\'s
what he was taught.

01:01:16.733 --> 01:01:19.733
[waves crashing
and seagulls calling]

01:01:21.566 --> 01:01:23.500
- When you look at this place,
it\'s gorgeous.

01:01:23.533 --> 01:01:25.033
It\'s a beautiful view.

01:01:25.066 --> 01:01:27.866
This is a public area.
Anybody can come here.

01:01:27.900 --> 01:01:29.233
But the reality is,

01:01:29.300 --> 01:01:32.366
not anybody can come here.

01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:35.300
Something as simple
as a memory board

01:01:35.333 --> 01:01:36.800
for a friend that died,

01:01:36.833 --> 01:01:38.533
they take the time
not just to commemorate

01:01:38.566 --> 01:01:41.566
that he was a surfer
or to talk about his persona

01:01:41.633 --> 01:01:44.833
but, you know,
put the nardcore sign on there.

01:01:44.866 --> 01:01:48.166
It\'s this diamond
and that X right there.

01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.966
SSL, Silver Strand Locals,

01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:55.333
is the gang moniker.

01:01:55.366 --> 01:01:56.666
The acronym, SSL,

01:01:56.700 --> 01:01:58.800
it\'s often done in graffiti

01:01:58.833 --> 01:02:01.766
with a... kind of a runic
lightning-bolt-looking \"S,\"

01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:03.766
very similar
to the Schutzstaffel \"S\"

01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:05.566
from the Nazi era.

01:02:05.600 --> 01:02:11.600
[tense music]

01:02:16.766 --> 01:02:18.133
- You think a beach,

01:02:18.200 --> 01:02:21.466
you think, like,
white surfers or something.

01:02:23.766 --> 01:02:26.366
White is a minority now.

01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:27.766
You don\'t see
a lot of white people,

01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.600
like, fully white people
like me,

01:02:30.633 --> 01:02:32.100
like, white, like...

01:02:32.133 --> 01:02:33.433
Or, like, you know,
like Brandon.

01:02:33.466 --> 01:02:35.033
Like, we were white.

01:02:35.066 --> 01:02:37.600
Like, you know, like,
you see, like, tan people.

01:02:37.633 --> 01:02:39.233
You see, like...

01:02:39.266 --> 01:02:40.800
You could just tell
when someone\'s...

01:02:40.866 --> 01:02:42.133
It\'s not a bad thing.

01:02:45.133 --> 01:02:47.300
[waves crashing]

01:02:47.366 --> 01:02:50.633
- Brandon had at least one
mentor that we know of

01:02:50.700 --> 01:02:54.733
who is a dyed-in-the-wool
neo-Nazi racist skinhead.

01:02:57.766 --> 01:02:59.366
- Matt Reaume told us

01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:01.633
that Brandon Mclnerney\'s
half brother James Bing

01:03:01.666 --> 01:03:03.700
knew that Brandon
was getting into white supremacy

01:03:03.766 --> 01:03:05.600
and brought him to Matt Reaume

01:03:05.633 --> 01:03:08.100
specifically to educate him.

01:03:08.133 --> 01:03:10.500
- Matt is what... they said
a white separatist, you know.

01:03:10.533 --> 01:03:14.133
Matt doesn\'t hate you
because of your skin color.

01:03:14.166 --> 01:03:15.533
He believes, you know,

01:03:15.600 --> 01:03:17.300
a white man
should have a white wife;

01:03:17.333 --> 01:03:19.100
a black man
should have a black wife;

01:03:19.133 --> 01:03:21.266
a black woman
should have a black husband.

01:03:21.300 --> 01:03:25.633
You know, just to save
your ethnicity.

01:03:32.366 --> 01:03:34.966
- It could\'ve been me
the whole time

01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:38.800
instead of Larry.

01:03:38.833 --> 01:03:43.966
I don\'t really feel
like being surrounded by people.

01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:46.433
Sometime I just feel
like a ghost.

01:03:50.933 --> 01:03:53.166
And then I watched the movie
\"Boys Don\'t Cry.\"

01:03:53.200 --> 01:03:55.033
That made me
have nightmares too.

01:03:57.866 --> 01:04:02.666
Even dressing like a boy
could get you killed,

01:04:02.700 --> 01:04:05.533
and I had a dream that
that was gonna happen to me.

01:04:08.200 --> 01:04:13.666
[gentle music]

01:04:16.900 --> 01:04:19.900
- I just kept having
the flashbacks.

01:04:22.166 --> 01:04:25.100
I\'d be driving
and just start crying.

01:04:25.166 --> 01:04:26.766
I\'m just never gonna see
the world

01:04:26.833 --> 01:04:30.000
the way I did
before February 12th.

01:04:30.033 --> 01:04:32.900
If I fall
and break my leg... easy.

01:04:32.933 --> 01:04:35.100
I know what the problem is.

01:04:35.166 --> 01:04:37.733
But with the posttraumatic,

01:04:37.766 --> 01:04:40.933
you don\'t know
what\'s gonna set it off.

01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:43.566
My family couldn\'t handle it.

01:04:43.600 --> 01:04:45.766
They couldn\'t handle
the anxiety,

01:04:45.833 --> 01:04:49.566
the crying, and despair.

01:04:49.600 --> 01:04:51.900
I had overdosed on drugs.

01:04:51.933 --> 01:04:54.166
I had tried to commit suicide,

01:04:54.200 --> 01:04:56.166
and I almost did it,

01:04:56.200 --> 01:04:58.500
\'cause I was on life-support
for three days.

01:04:58.533 --> 01:05:01.600
[train clanging]

01:05:03.933 --> 01:05:07.300
I\'m really excited
to see Mariah and Marina.

01:05:07.333 --> 01:05:09.566
I really am.
I\'ve missed \'em.

01:05:13.833 --> 01:05:16.166
The last time
I physically saw them

01:05:16.233 --> 01:05:19.100
was literally the day
I walked off the job.

01:05:19.133 --> 01:05:20.433
- Hi.

01:05:20.466 --> 01:05:22.966
- Mm, mm.

01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:25.566
- [sobbing]

01:05:25.600 --> 01:05:26.666
- [speaks indistinctly]

01:05:26.733 --> 01:05:27.966
Oh...

01:05:35.133 --> 01:05:38.933
[sobbing]

01:05:44.966 --> 01:05:47.966
[speaking indistinctly]

01:05:55.566 --> 01:05:57.300
What I learned is that,

01:05:57.333 --> 01:06:01.200
truly, nobody\'s ever prepared
for any of this,

01:06:01.233 --> 01:06:03.200
and everybody just thinks,

01:06:03.233 --> 01:06:06.200
\"Oh, the cops and the school,
they always got it handled.\"

01:06:06.233 --> 01:06:07.566
They don\'t have shit.

01:06:07.633 --> 01:06:09.066
- I think the day
of the shooting

01:06:09.133 --> 01:06:12.566
was the first day
I dressed like a guy.

01:06:12.633 --> 01:06:14.133
- Really?
- Yeah.

01:06:14.166 --> 01:06:15.400
- I turned around,
and I saw you,

01:06:15.466 --> 01:06:17.233
and I was like, \"Oh, hey,\"

01:06:17.300 --> 01:06:19.466
and then I couldn\'t
recognize her.

01:06:19.500 --> 01:06:21.233
- Well, I... I really like it.
- But I love it.

01:06:21.300 --> 01:06:22.866
- It looks good.
- I like it a lot.

01:06:22.900 --> 01:06:26.333
[indistinct chatter
and laughter]

01:06:26.366 --> 01:06:27.633
- [sighs]

01:06:35.733 --> 01:06:38.200
- The week before the shooting,
I had an epiphany.

01:06:38.233 --> 01:06:40.666
I was out monitoring
the students after school,

01:06:40.700 --> 01:06:43.066
and I saw
this pretty little girl,

01:06:43.133 --> 01:06:45.000
and she had really short hair

01:06:45.033 --> 01:06:46.966
with these dangly,
pretty earrings

01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:50.366
and these high-heeled boots
and beautiful little figure.

01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:53.566
And then she turned around,
and I saw it was a boy.

01:06:53.633 --> 01:06:55.466
It clicked.
This is Larry.

01:06:55.500 --> 01:06:57.260
And this is what
all the rumblings are about,

01:06:57.300 --> 01:06:59.033
and now I understand.

01:06:59.066 --> 01:07:02.933
- He came into my classroom
before school with makeup on.

01:07:02.966 --> 01:07:04.566
I told him
he needed to wash it off

01:07:04.600 --> 01:07:06.933
because we were working
on these behavior issues.

01:07:06.966 --> 01:07:08.966
He wasn\'t supposed to draw
attention to himself,

01:07:09.033 --> 01:07:10.533
and wearing makeup as a boy

01:07:10.566 --> 01:07:12.733
is definitely drawing attention
to yourself.

01:07:12.766 --> 01:07:15.366
- I saw Brandon
sitting on the bench

01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:17.100
very angry and upset...

01:07:17.133 --> 01:07:19.266
Brandon\'s friends
that were laughing at Brandon.

01:07:19.300 --> 01:07:21.200
That\'s when
I first noticed Larry.

01:07:21.233 --> 01:07:24.066
He was kind of parading
back and forth.

01:07:24.100 --> 01:07:27.466
Seemed like he was trying
to get Brandon\'s attention.

01:07:27.533 --> 01:07:30.966
[indistinct chatter]

01:07:31.033 --> 01:07:33.700
- Nobody else at E.O. Green

01:07:33.733 --> 01:07:38.066
hated Larry to the point
that they wanted to hurt him.

01:07:38.100 --> 01:07:40.066
Brandon suggested
they jump Larry,

01:07:40.100 --> 01:07:41.366
they beat him down,

01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:42.800
but nobody
would help him do that,

01:07:42.866 --> 01:07:45.600
so he was basically gonna do it
all by himself.

01:07:45.633 --> 01:07:51.633
[foreboding music]

01:07:56.800 --> 01:07:58.466
- Brandon\'s dad
was gonna take him to school

01:07:58.533 --> 01:07:59.766
and walked outside,

01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:01.266
and Brandon
actually forgot the gun

01:08:01.300 --> 01:08:03.600
and had to go back in
and get it.

01:08:03.633 --> 01:08:05.200
Now, there\'s an opportunity
where fate

01:08:05.266 --> 01:08:07.100
has actually made you forget.

01:08:07.133 --> 01:08:08.973
The one key element you need
to commit a murder

01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:10.600
is the weapon,

01:08:10.633 --> 01:08:12.466
and instead
of maybe taking a clue

01:08:12.500 --> 01:08:14.666
or, you know, getting scared
that he\'s gonna get caught,

01:08:14.700 --> 01:08:15.666
he just... nope.

01:08:15.700 --> 01:08:16.933
\"Oops, I forgot the gun.

01:08:16.966 --> 01:08:18.246
I got to go back in
and get it.\"

01:08:19.933 --> 01:08:24.133
- Even though Brandon
was consumed by these feelings,

01:08:24.166 --> 01:08:25.800
there was a chance
to stop and think.

01:08:25.833 --> 01:08:27.933
Larry was called out
of the class,

01:08:27.966 --> 01:08:30.533
and during Larry\'s absence,

01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:33.433
Brandon began to have
second thoughts.

01:08:33.466 --> 01:08:36.200
You know, he had his hand
in his sweatshirt pocket

01:08:36.266 --> 01:08:37.500
where the gun was.

01:08:37.533 --> 01:08:39.633
He was, at that point, thinking,

01:08:39.666 --> 01:08:41.500
\"Maybe I won\'t do this.\"

01:08:41.533 --> 01:08:43.666
The ultimate trigger
was Larry saying,

01:08:43.700 --> 01:08:45.766
\"I\'ve changed my name
to Laticia.\"

01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:48.333
When he heard that,
it just obliterated

01:08:48.366 --> 01:08:50.933
any reserve or restraint
that he had,

01:08:50.966 --> 01:08:53.166
so that took it
to another level.

01:08:53.200 --> 01:08:55.633
\"This guy who is doing
these things to me

01:08:55.666 --> 01:08:59.000
is now going to be calling
himself by a girl\'s name.\"

01:09:02.500 --> 01:09:05.833
- The admissions that Brandon
made to Dr. Hoagland

01:09:05.866 --> 01:09:08.400
were so damning

01:09:08.433 --> 01:09:14.833
and corroborated
the entire prosecution theory;

01:09:14.866 --> 01:09:16.433
I thought it was over.

01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:21.066
- He did not pull a Columbine.

01:09:21.100 --> 01:09:23.866
He did not go
and shoot everybody he could.

01:09:23.900 --> 01:09:26.400
He shot Larry King

01:09:26.433 --> 01:09:29.700
because he didn\'t know
what else to do to make it stop,

01:09:29.733 --> 01:09:32.166
but he\'s not a murderer.

01:09:32.200 --> 01:09:35.100
When you make this decision,
use your common sense.

01:09:35.166 --> 01:09:36.866
Use your heart.
Use your soul.

01:09:36.900 --> 01:09:39.166
And remember that he was 14.

01:09:39.200 --> 01:09:42.533
- Mr. Wippert just asked you
to violate the law...

01:09:42.566 --> 01:09:44.033
You know, \"Use your heart.\"

01:09:44.066 --> 01:09:47.666
And 39 times, he reminded you

01:09:47.700 --> 01:09:50.233
that the defendant
was a 14-year-old boy.

01:09:50.266 --> 01:09:52.366
We talked about the fact
that it\'s gonna be difficult

01:09:52.400 --> 01:09:54.000
and that your emotions come in,

01:09:54.033 --> 01:09:56.033
but you have to check them
at the door.

01:09:56.066 --> 01:09:58.100
The law requires you to do that.

01:09:58.166 --> 01:10:03.500
There is absolutely no way
that the facts of this case

01:10:03.533 --> 01:10:06.166
could ever be
voluntary manslaughter

01:10:06.200 --> 01:10:11.100
because no reasonable,
average person

01:10:11.166 --> 01:10:13.933
would ever do
what the defendant did,

01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:15.033
and it\'s sad.

01:10:15.066 --> 01:10:16.266
It is.
It\'s tragic.

01:10:16.333 --> 01:10:17.366
It\'s awful.

01:10:17.400 --> 01:10:19.833
It\'s also a done deal.

01:10:19.866 --> 01:10:23.866
[suspenseful music]

01:10:26.033 --> 01:10:28.266
- Was it a momentary act
of panic

01:10:28.333 --> 01:10:30.066
or a cold-blooded execution?

01:10:30.100 --> 01:10:32.033
- The jury has been unable
to reach a verdict

01:10:32.066 --> 01:10:34.333
after deliberating for days.

01:10:34.366 --> 01:10:35.766
- In fact,
the judge in this case

01:10:35.833 --> 01:10:39.433
has declared a mistrial
just a short time ago,

01:10:39.500 --> 01:10:42.600
the jury saying they could not
come to an agreement,

01:10:42.666 --> 01:10:44.200
with seven jurors believing

01:10:44.233 --> 01:10:46.900
that he was guilty
of voluntary manslaughter,

01:10:46.933 --> 01:10:51.266
five saying they believed
he was guilty of murder.

01:10:53.166 --> 01:10:54.400
- He\'s looking
at life in prison,

01:10:54.433 --> 01:10:56.100
and... and that\'s not an option.

01:10:56.166 --> 01:10:57.566
- We want a date,

01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:00.233
certain that he can look
at a calendar and say,

01:11:00.266 --> 01:11:03.433
\"On this date,
I\'m gonna get out.\"

01:11:03.466 --> 01:11:05.266
- He doesn\'t want to go through
this process again,

01:11:05.300 --> 01:11:07.333
and none of us want to go
through this process again,

01:11:07.400 --> 01:11:09.300
but if we have to,
then we have to.

01:11:09.333 --> 01:11:11.666
We\'ll have some talks with
the district attorney\'s office

01:11:11.733 --> 01:11:13.900
and see if there\'s
any kind of resolution

01:11:13.933 --> 01:11:16.833
that all parties can live with.

01:11:16.900 --> 01:11:19.966
None of the jurors believe
that this was a hate crime.

01:11:23.233 --> 01:11:25.100
- On to another day?

01:11:25.133 --> 01:11:26.566
- On to another day.

01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:28.433
- That was good.

01:11:42.833 --> 01:11:44.066
- That\'s good.
What\'s that?

01:11:44.100 --> 01:11:45.633
- This is what I poured for you.

01:11:45.666 --> 01:11:47.266
It\'s really good.
- Where\'d you get it?

01:11:47.300 --> 01:11:48.540
- Trader Joe\'s.
- Trader Joe\'s.

01:11:48.566 --> 01:11:50.066
- $3.99.

01:11:50.100 --> 01:11:51.800
- Do you know... everybody
is telling me about that.

01:11:51.833 --> 01:11:53.800
- I\'m telling you, it\'s so good.

01:11:53.833 --> 01:11:55.566
And they have, um, cab,

01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:56.800
they have merlot,

01:11:56.833 --> 01:11:58.600
and they have, uh, malbec.

01:11:58.633 --> 01:12:01.700
We bonded because
it was so frustrating

01:12:01.733 --> 01:12:03.466
to hear things in court...

01:12:03.500 --> 01:12:06.066
And... and there were times
we were all crying in court...

01:12:06.133 --> 01:12:07.466
And we couldn\'t talk about it.

01:12:07.500 --> 01:12:08.700
- [sighing] I know.

01:12:08.733 --> 01:12:10.566
- Brandon\'s an intelligent kid.

01:12:10.633 --> 01:12:12.066
Everybody said it.
- You know what?

01:12:12.133 --> 01:12:13.700
I feel that
he\'s an intelligent...

01:12:13.733 --> 01:12:14.866
But I feel he\'s such a kid.

01:12:14.900 --> 01:12:16.133
- He\'s immature.

01:12:16.166 --> 01:12:17.566
- You know, when I looked at him

01:12:17.633 --> 01:12:19.333
and he was sitting
at that table,

01:12:19.366 --> 01:12:21.900
my heart broke for him
as a mom and a grandmother.

01:12:21.966 --> 01:12:23.200
- None of... not one of us

01:12:23.233 --> 01:12:24.866
thought he was
a white supremacist.

01:12:24.900 --> 01:12:27.400
Now, his assignment
on Adolf Hitler,

01:12:27.466 --> 01:12:29.300
could it have sparked
his interest

01:12:29.333 --> 01:12:30.733
and thought, \"Oh, wow.

01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:32.066
I want to know
a little more about this\"?

01:12:32.133 --> 01:12:33.400
He\'s 14.
- He\'s a kid.

01:12:33.466 --> 01:12:34.666
- Of course it did.
It did.

01:12:34.700 --> 01:12:36.100
- And they love to draw
at that age.

01:12:36.133 --> 01:12:37.666
- Yes, they doodle...
And crosses and, like...

01:12:37.700 --> 01:12:39.233
- And he\'s combining symbolism.
- Yes, it...

01:12:39.300 --> 01:12:41.566
- I doodle now,
especially when I\'m not happy

01:12:41.633 --> 01:12:43.033
about what I\'m hearing,

01:12:43.066 --> 01:12:45.533
and my hands
go faster and faster.

01:12:45.566 --> 01:12:49.233
- Where are the civil rights
of the one being taunted

01:12:49.300 --> 01:12:51.000
by another person
who\'s cross-dressing?

01:12:51.033 --> 01:12:52.300
They have to address that.

01:12:52.333 --> 01:12:53.666
- Sure.
- It\'s very important.

01:12:53.700 --> 01:12:55.366
- Clearly,
that wasn\'t addressed.

01:12:55.400 --> 01:12:57.966
- No, it wasn\'t, and he had
no one he could turn to,

01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:02.233
\'cause the school was
so pro-Larry King civil rights,

01:13:02.266 --> 01:13:04.100
but where was
Brandon\'s civil rights?

01:13:04.133 --> 01:13:05.933
- It was the high heels.

01:13:05.966 --> 01:13:07.433
I think it was the makeup.

01:13:07.466 --> 01:13:09.533
The behavior...
- Because Marina...

01:13:09.566 --> 01:13:10.633
- Yes.

01:13:10.700 --> 01:13:12.200
She had a girlfriend.

01:13:12.233 --> 01:13:13.900
They were told
not to hold hands in school,

01:13:13.933 --> 01:13:15.133
so they stopped.

01:13:15.200 --> 01:13:16.733
- She got it.
- She... exactly.

01:13:16.766 --> 01:13:18.266
- Larry, didn\'t get it.
- Didn\'t get it.

01:13:18.300 --> 01:13:20.800
- And had he followed
her example...

01:13:20.866 --> 01:13:22.033
- We wouldn\'t be here today.

01:13:22.066 --> 01:13:23.400
- Yeah.
- Yeah.

01:13:25.866 --> 01:13:28.266
- Here\'s an extra.

01:13:28.300 --> 01:13:29.700
- Don\'t these look delicious?

01:13:29.733 --> 01:13:30.700
- Yes.
- Oof.

01:13:30.733 --> 01:13:31.933
- Thank you.

01:13:31.966 --> 01:13:34.033
We were supposed to not consider
his age,

01:13:34.066 --> 01:13:35.700
which is very hard to do.

01:13:35.733 --> 01:13:37.900
- That was
the very first thought I had.

01:13:37.933 --> 01:13:39.800
\"He is so young.\"

01:13:39.866 --> 01:13:43.800
- How can I, Rosalie,
say that this kid

01:13:43.866 --> 01:13:46.033
needs to go to jail
for the rest of his life?

01:13:46.066 --> 01:13:48.033
It would have to be
so much more compelling

01:13:48.066 --> 01:13:49.800
in every way

01:13:49.866 --> 01:13:52.433
for me to even go down
that avenue.

01:13:52.466 --> 01:13:55.200
- I do not think
it was first-degree murder.

01:13:55.233 --> 01:13:58.066
However, it was premeditated.

01:13:58.100 --> 01:14:00.933
He had a plan to resolve
this terrible problem,

01:14:00.966 --> 01:14:02.886
because nobody was taking care
of this problem...

01:14:02.933 --> 01:14:05.866
- By murder or just to maim him?

01:14:05.933 --> 01:14:07.833
- We don\'t know.

01:14:07.866 --> 01:14:09.800
And then he\'s having
second thoughts

01:14:09.833 --> 01:14:11.433
about doing it,

01:14:11.466 --> 01:14:14.433
but then the green light
when he says, \"Hey, Larry,

01:14:14.466 --> 01:14:16.306
I hear you\'re changing your name
to Laticia\"...

01:14:16.333 --> 01:14:17.573
To him, that\'s a green light...

01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:19.933
Pulls out the gun
and shoots him.

01:14:19.966 --> 01:14:21.100
- Yeah.

01:14:21.133 --> 01:14:22.366
- He was solving a problem.

01:14:25.100 --> 01:14:27.433
- I picked a terrible jury.

01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:34.333
Juror Number 11 wrote a letter
to Judge Campbell.

01:14:34.366 --> 01:14:35.633
\"It is a tragedy

01:14:35.666 --> 01:14:37.633
\"and propaganda-filled
witch hunt.

01:14:37.666 --> 01:14:39.666
\"You all know
this was not a hate crime.

01:14:39.700 --> 01:14:42.200
\"You all know the victim
had a long history

01:14:42.266 --> 01:14:44.933
\"of deviant behavior.

01:14:44.966 --> 01:14:46.966
Yes, I said deviant.\"

01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:49.966
As you can see,
she CC\'d Judge Campbell, me,

01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:53.500
Mr. Wippert, ABC \"20/20,\"
the Ventura Star, Fox L.A.,

01:14:53.533 --> 01:14:55.433
and God.

01:14:57.833 --> 01:14:59.466
- Everybody\'s so worried
about Brandon.

01:14:59.500 --> 01:15:02.266
\"Oh, my God,
he could get 52 to life.\"

01:15:02.333 --> 01:15:03.733
He shot a kid
in the back of the head,

01:15:03.766 --> 01:15:05.866
point-blank range,

01:15:05.900 --> 01:15:07.900
and premeditated it and lied...

01:15:07.933 --> 01:15:10.733
Watched the back of his head
for 20 minutes.

01:15:12.700 --> 01:15:14.500
I feel bad for Brandon.

01:15:14.533 --> 01:15:16.533
He made some bad mistakes,
and he\'s a kid.

01:15:16.566 --> 01:15:19.166
Do you hold him accountable
for the rest of his life?

01:15:20.566 --> 01:15:22.200
I\'m not a judge,

01:15:22.233 --> 01:15:25.266
but I can sure tell you
that they made a murder victim

01:15:25.333 --> 01:15:27.400
the cause of his own murder.

01:15:28.900 --> 01:15:31.166
Never seen that before.

01:15:31.200 --> 01:15:34.500
- It was a seven/five split
for manslaughter.

01:15:34.533 --> 01:15:37.366
How many of you believed
Brandon should\'ve been tried

01:15:37.400 --> 01:15:40.166
as an adult
for first-degree murder?

01:15:40.200 --> 01:15:41.900
Not one of you.

01:15:41.933 --> 01:15:44.533
The district attorney\'s office
refused to talk publicly

01:15:44.566 --> 01:15:46.166
but said in a statement,

01:15:46.200 --> 01:15:49.200
they believe Brandon
is capable of killing again,

01:15:49.233 --> 01:15:51.066
and just this week,
a California court

01:15:51.100 --> 01:15:52.933
gave the green light
for the D.A.

01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:54.733
to retry Brandon again

01:15:54.766 --> 01:15:57.366
for first-degree murder
as an adult.

01:15:57.400 --> 01:16:01.600
These jurors are now wearing
\"Save Brandon\" bracelets too.

01:16:01.633 --> 01:16:03.433
They also told us
they\'re raising money

01:16:03.466 --> 01:16:04.966
for Brandon\'s defense

01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:06.466
for the retrial.

01:16:06.500 --> 01:16:09.133
- To see the jurors
going on television

01:16:09.166 --> 01:16:11.166
with the \"Free Brandon\"
bracelets and all that,

01:16:11.233 --> 01:16:13.166
are you gonna have
that kind of compassion

01:16:13.233 --> 01:16:15.733
for a admitted shooter

01:16:15.766 --> 01:16:17.500
if it was your kid?

01:16:17.566 --> 01:16:19.833
If you\'ve got me walking
through your door

01:16:19.900 --> 01:16:22.566
in the middle of the night
to give you the one bit of news

01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:26.233
that you never, ever, ever
want to hear,

01:16:26.266 --> 01:16:27.466
how are you gonna feel then?

01:16:27.500 --> 01:16:29.933
You gonna keep that bracelet on?

01:16:33.266 --> 01:16:35.433
- This is my only tattoo.

01:16:35.466 --> 01:16:38.600
Obviously, it\'s a show
of support for Brandon.

01:16:38.633 --> 01:16:39.966
It felt like the right thing
to do.

01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:41.633
I don\'t know how to explain it.

01:16:41.666 --> 01:16:44.266
I don\'t know that I will ever
be able to express

01:16:44.300 --> 01:16:46.300
what it is about this kid
that means so much to me.

01:16:46.333 --> 01:16:47.633
I just...

01:16:49.266 --> 01:16:50.733
I love him.

01:16:50.766 --> 01:16:51.933
He\'s, like,
one of my favorite people

01:16:51.966 --> 01:16:53.266
on the planet.

01:16:53.300 --> 01:16:56.633
His spirit and his energy
and his...

01:17:00.400 --> 01:17:02.233
I don\'t know what it is,

01:17:02.300 --> 01:17:04.500
and I don\'t suppose
I need to know what it is,

01:17:04.533 --> 01:17:05.833
but I just... I love him.

01:17:05.866 --> 01:17:08.700
I just...
I think he\'s fantastic.

01:17:08.733 --> 01:17:12.700
Every time I look at it,
I\'m happy.

01:17:12.733 --> 01:17:15.833
[indistinct chatter]

01:17:18.133 --> 01:17:20.000
- There is
a surprise plea deal tonight

01:17:20.033 --> 01:17:22.366
in the case
of a gay junior high student

01:17:22.400 --> 01:17:24.533
shot to death by a classmate.

01:17:24.566 --> 01:17:25.866
- How do you plea to that count?

01:17:25.900 --> 01:17:27.300
- Guilty.

01:17:27.333 --> 01:17:29.093
- He pleaded guilty
to second-degree murder,

01:17:29.133 --> 01:17:31.066
voluntary manslaughter,
and use of a firearm

01:17:31.133 --> 01:17:33.333
in the death
of his classmate Larry King.

01:17:33.366 --> 01:17:34.733
- He is gonna spend

01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:36.333
the next 21 years of his life
in prison,

01:17:36.366 --> 01:17:38.166
no possibility of parole.

01:17:38.200 --> 01:17:39.966
The Ventura County
D.A.\'s office

01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:41.400
and attorneys
for Brandon Mclnerney

01:17:41.466 --> 01:17:42.666
reached that deal

01:17:42.700 --> 01:17:44.366
in a Ventura County
courtroom today.

01:17:44.400 --> 01:17:46.500
Brandon Mclnerney\'s mother
left weeping,

01:17:46.533 --> 01:17:48.966
also not talking to reporters.

01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:50.500
Some of the jurors
in the first trial

01:17:50.533 --> 01:17:53.133
were here to support Mclnerney.

01:17:53.166 --> 01:17:55.466
- And I was really
kind of shocked, like,

01:17:55.500 --> 01:17:57.066
\"21 years?
Really?

01:17:57.133 --> 01:17:59.200
You have no chance of parole?
Really?\"

01:17:59.233 --> 01:18:00.766
It seems an awful long time

01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:03.366
for a kid
who had no prior record,

01:18:03.400 --> 01:18:05.966
who didn\'t do
any torture, kidnapping,

01:18:06.033 --> 01:18:08.566
or any of the other things

01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:10.933
that I would consider
to be appropriate

01:18:10.966 --> 01:18:14.366
for a 21-year sentence
with no possibility of parole.

01:18:14.400 --> 01:18:16.566
[indistinct chatter]

01:18:16.600 --> 01:18:18.566
- There\'s more to the story

01:18:18.600 --> 01:18:20.766
than just what you see.

01:18:23.133 --> 01:18:24.900
I\'m just not ready...

01:18:24.933 --> 01:18:27.766
Just hanging back
so I can get down there by...

01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:29.366
[mutters]

01:18:29.400 --> 01:18:31.466
I don\'t think I have anything
at this point.

01:18:31.533 --> 01:18:33.633
I\'m sorry.

01:18:33.700 --> 01:18:35.300
- It just sucks.

01:18:35.366 --> 01:18:38.266
Larry doesn\'t get to come back
in 21 years.

01:18:42.133 --> 01:18:43.366
- I don\'t know.

01:18:43.400 --> 01:18:45.366
I just was thinking about Larry.

01:18:45.400 --> 01:18:47.266
We\'re not gonna see him
smile anymore,

01:18:47.300 --> 01:18:49.366
not gonna see him grow up.

01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:52.966
- You look sad.

01:18:53.033 --> 01:18:59.033
[gentle music]

01:19:12.033 --> 01:19:14.700
- We ended up getting
a resolution,

01:19:14.766 --> 01:19:17.166
which was the best
that we could\'ve gotten.

01:19:17.200 --> 01:19:19.300
- It was still way too high.

01:19:19.333 --> 01:19:20.700
- And it\'s still...
It\'s still way too high.

01:19:20.766 --> 01:19:24.633
Everything we did in this
was a fight,

01:19:24.666 --> 01:19:27.633
but at the end of the day,
what really matters is,

01:19:27.666 --> 01:19:29.466
Brandon is gonna get out.

01:19:29.500 --> 01:19:33.033
He has a date on his calendar
that he can look forward to.

01:19:37.966 --> 01:19:39.966
[engine turns over]

01:19:53.333 --> 01:19:56.333
[no audible dialogue]

01:20:08.533 --> 01:20:09.933
[indistinct chatter]

01:20:31.300 --> 01:20:33.333
- I would next like to thank
the people

01:20:33.366 --> 01:20:35.966
who have helped me
get to this point:

01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:38.200
my family
for keeping me motivated

01:20:38.266 --> 01:20:39.466
and always supporting me;

01:20:39.500 --> 01:20:40.933
my lawyers...

01:20:40.966 --> 01:20:42.666
Their hard work
has put me in a position

01:20:42.700 --> 01:20:45.333
to put this diploma to work;

01:20:45.366 --> 01:20:48.466
lastly, to the people
I haven\'t mentioned,

01:20:48.500 --> 01:20:50.600
know that your support
hasn\'t gone unnoticed.

01:20:50.633 --> 01:20:51.933
Thank you.

01:20:51.966 --> 01:20:54.966
[applause]

01:20:59.166 --> 01:21:01.200
- He sent a letter.

01:21:01.233 --> 01:21:02.533
First thing,
I got it in the mail.

01:21:02.566 --> 01:21:03.766
I did not open it.

01:21:03.833 --> 01:21:05.700
I was too scared.

01:21:05.733 --> 01:21:08.666
\"That\'s cool you found out
about my graduation.

01:21:08.700 --> 01:21:12.700
\"I would have been an idiot
not to try and get my diploma.

01:21:12.733 --> 01:21:14.766
\"I can\'t tell you enough
how sorry I am

01:21:14.833 --> 01:21:17.866
\"for all the pain and guilt
I\'ve caused you,

01:21:17.900 --> 01:21:19.166
\"but I need you to know,

01:21:19.200 --> 01:21:22.533
\"none of this is your fault
at all.

01:21:22.566 --> 01:21:24.700
\"It is no one\'s fault
but my own.

01:21:24.733 --> 01:21:26.233
\"Please know that,

01:21:26.266 --> 01:21:28.833
\"and I\'m definitely not angry
with you,

01:21:28.866 --> 01:21:30.400
\"and I never was.

01:21:30.433 --> 01:21:32.866
\"I\'ve moved on
from what happened,

01:21:32.900 --> 01:21:34.766
\"and I hope I can help you
do the same.

01:21:34.833 --> 01:21:37.700
Love, Brandon.\"

01:21:37.733 --> 01:21:40.266
- \"Graduates traditionally move
their tassels

01:21:40.333 --> 01:21:41.700
\"from the right side
to the left side

01:21:41.733 --> 01:21:43.333
\"of their graduation hats

01:21:43.366 --> 01:21:46.233
\"to indicate they have completed
this phase of studies

01:21:46.266 --> 01:21:49.600
and now have... are ready
to move on to the next.\"

01:21:49.666 --> 01:21:50.933
So move that tassel.

01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:53.933
[laughter and applause]

01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:56.166
[melancholy
acoustic guitar music]

01:21:56.200 --> 01:21:57.566
- [singing] I\'m sinking

01:21:57.600 --> 01:22:01.500
With a heart of stone

01:22:01.566 --> 01:22:02.833
Into the depths

01:22:02.900 --> 01:22:09.333
Of what my conscience knows

01:22:09.400 --> 01:22:11.900
It\'s keeping me

01:22:11.933 --> 01:22:14.766
Up at night

01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:17.766
Now I\'m losing time

01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:20.766
To make things right

01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:24.466
Do you get along

01:22:24.500 --> 01:22:27.166
With yourself?

01:22:27.233 --> 01:22:32.766
Does it come
between you and your health?

01:22:36.233 --> 01:22:40.400
- When you ask me
if Larry died in vain,

01:22:40.433 --> 01:22:42.733
the answer to that,
with or without any trial,

01:22:42.766 --> 01:22:44.266
is yes.

01:22:44.300 --> 01:22:46.966
He simply shouldn\'t have died.

01:22:50.133 --> 01:22:54.100
The trial of Brandon Mclnerney
is neither here nor there

01:22:54.133 --> 01:22:57.133
when it comes to Larry\'s death.

01:22:57.166 --> 01:23:01.833
It highlights
how intolerant we are.

01:23:01.866 --> 01:23:04.333
That intolerance
is to such a degree

01:23:04.366 --> 01:23:06.466
that people bring it with them
wherever they go,

01:23:06.500 --> 01:23:08.700
even in the jury box.

01:23:08.733 --> 01:23:12.166
And...

01:23:12.200 --> 01:23:15.566
until...

01:23:15.633 --> 01:23:17.900
we become
a little more forgiving,

01:23:17.966 --> 01:23:22.166
a little more open-minded,
I think, as a society,

01:23:22.200 --> 01:23:25.333
then tragic events like this

01:23:25.366 --> 01:23:29.866
will continue to be in vain.

01:23:33.866 --> 01:23:36.733
- \"God grew a garden
and planted a seed

01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:39.666
\"and ever so often
had to pull out a weed.

01:23:39.700 --> 01:23:42.466
\"He cared for that seed,
oh, so much.

01:23:42.500 --> 01:23:45.366
\"He knew every hair
on its head and such,

01:23:45.400 --> 01:23:48.633
\"for the seed was a child
who would love and laugh,

01:23:48.666 --> 01:23:51.333
\"but the love of a family,
he\'d only get half.

01:23:51.366 --> 01:23:54.700
\"He would be a great child
but adopted while young,

01:23:54.733 --> 01:23:58.000
\"growing up with maybe
your daughter or son.

01:23:58.033 --> 01:24:00.633
\"He\'d care for the animals,
birds, and bugs,

01:24:00.700 --> 01:24:03.400
\"and if anyone was sad,
he\'d give them hugs.

01:24:03.433 --> 01:24:06.466
\"He\'d only use
the kindest and softest tone,

01:24:06.533 --> 01:24:09.100
\"but God knew a secret
that to us was unknown.

01:24:09.133 --> 01:24:12.100
\"This seed\'s life was short
and would die while still young,

01:24:12.133 --> 01:24:14.800
\"but while still alive,
this seed would have fun.

01:24:14.866 --> 01:24:18.066
\"This seed\'s name was Larry,
and he was my good friend,

01:24:18.100 --> 01:24:21.700
and he stayed like that
all the way till the end.\"

01:24:21.733 --> 01:24:27.733
[gentle music]

01:24:40.433 --> 01:24:41.866
- This is it.

01:24:49.966 --> 01:24:55.966
[upbeat piano music]

01:25:00.200 --> 01:25:01.600
- [singing] And I can\'t change

01:25:01.633 --> 01:25:03.366
- Bah-bah, bah, bah, bah

01:25:03.433 --> 01:25:05.600
Bah-bah, bah, bah

01:25:05.633 --> 01:25:08.600
- Even if I tried

01:25:08.633 --> 01:25:11.533
Even if I wanted to

01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:14.266
And I can\'t change

01:25:14.300 --> 01:25:16.966
Even if I tried

01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:20.800
Even if I wanted to

01:25:20.833 --> 01:25:22.433
My love, my love, my love

01:25:22.466 --> 01:25:25.266
She keeps me warm

01:25:25.300 --> 01:25:28.033
She keeps me warm

01:25:28.100 --> 01:25:30.866
She keeps me warm

01:25:30.933 --> 01:25:33.633
She keeps me warm

01:25:35.366 --> 01:25:38.333
- If I was gay,
I would think hip-hop hates me

01:25:38.366 --> 01:25:41.000
Have you read
the YouTube comments lately?

01:25:41.033 --> 01:25:43.366
\"Man, that\'s gay\"
gets dropped on the daily

01:25:43.433 --> 01:25:45.700
We\'ve become so numb
to what we\'re saying

01:25:45.766 --> 01:25:47.433
Our culture
founded from oppression

01:25:47.466 --> 01:25:48.966
Yet we don\'t have
acceptance for \'em

01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:50.466
Call each other faggots

01:25:50.500 --> 01:25:51.866
Behind the keys
of a message board

01:25:51.933 --> 01:25:53.200
A word rooted in hate

01:25:53.266 --> 01:25:54.866
Yet our genre still ignores it

01:25:54.933 --> 01:25:57.800
And \"gay\" is synonymous
with the lesser

01:25:57.833 --> 01:25:59.366
It\'s the same hate
that\'s caused wars

01:25:59.433 --> 01:26:00.500
From religion

01:26:00.533 --> 01:26:01.833
Gender to skin color

01:26:01.866 --> 01:26:03.166
The complexion of your pigment

01:26:03.200 --> 01:26:04.433
The same fight that led people

01:26:04.500 --> 01:26:05.866
To walkouts and sit-ins

01:26:05.900 --> 01:26:07.366
It\'s human rights for everybody

01:26:07.400 --> 01:26:08.600
There is no difference

01:26:08.666 --> 01:26:09.866
Live on

01:26:09.900 --> 01:26:11.533
And be yourself

01:26:11.566 --> 01:26:14.166
When I was at church,
they taught me something else

01:26:14.200 --> 01:26:15.700
If you preach hate
at the service

01:26:15.733 --> 01:26:17.166
Those words aren\'t anointed

01:26:17.200 --> 01:26:18.500
That holy water that you soak in

01:26:18.533 --> 01:26:20.066
Has been poisoned

01:26:20.100 --> 01:26:21.733
When everyone else
is more comfortable

01:26:21.766 --> 01:26:23.533
Remaining voiceless
rather than fighting

01:26:23.566 --> 01:26:26.000
For humans that have had
their rights stolen

01:26:26.033 --> 01:26:27.333
I might not be the same

01:26:27.366 --> 01:26:28.733
But that\'s not important

01:26:28.766 --> 01:26:30.033
No freedom till we\'re equal

01:26:30.066 --> 01:26:31.500
Damn right, I support it

01:26:31.533 --> 01:26:34.533
[trombone solo]

01:26:37.833 --> 01:26:39.366
I don\'t know

01:26:42.066 --> 01:26:44.400
- And I can\'t change

01:26:44.433 --> 01:26:47.233
Even if I tried

01:26:47.266 --> 01:26:51.166
Even if I wanted to

01:26:51.200 --> 01:26:52.733
My love, my love, my love

01:26:52.766 --> 01:26:55.566
She keeps me warm

01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:58.366
She keeps me warm

01:26:58.400 --> 01:27:01.300
She keeps me warm

01:27:01.333 --> 01:27:03.766
She keeps me warm

01:27:05.433 --> 01:27:07.166
- No law\'s gonna change us

01:27:07.233 --> 01:27:08.466
We have to change us

01:27:08.500 --> 01:27:09.733
Whatever god you believe in

01:27:09.766 --> 01:27:10.966
We come from the same one

01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:12.500
Strip away the fear

01:27:12.566 --> 01:27:14.300
Underneath,
it\'s all the same love

01:27:14.333 --> 01:27:15.833
About time that we raised up

01:27:15.900 --> 01:27:17.100
- And I can\'t change

01:27:17.133 --> 01:27:19.433
- Bah-bah, bah, bah, bah

01:27:19.466 --> 01:27:21.233
Bah-bah, bah, bah

01:27:21.266 --> 01:27:24.000
- Even if I tried

01:27:24.066 --> 01:27:27.066
Even if I wanted to

01:27:27.100 --> 01:27:29.666
And I can\'t change

01:27:29.733 --> 01:27:32.500
Even if I tried

01:27:32.566 --> 01:27:36.333
Even if I wanted to

01:27:36.400 --> 01:27:37.933
My love, my love, my love

01:27:37.966 --> 01:27:40.766
She keeps me warm

01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:43.500
She keeps me warm

01:27:43.566 --> 01:27:46.400
She keeps me warm

01:27:46.433 --> 01:27:47.733
She keeps me warm

01:27:47.766 --> 01:27:50.433
- Bah-bah, bah, bah, bah

01:27:50.466 --> 01:27:52.333
- Love is patient

01:27:52.400 --> 01:27:53.600
- Not crying on Sundays

01:27:53.633 --> 01:27:55.100
- Love is kind

01:27:55.133 --> 01:27:56.766
- I\'m not crying on Sundays

01:27:56.800 --> 01:27:59.100
- Love is patient

01:27:59.133 --> 01:28:01.633
Love is kind

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