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Multiple

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machines

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Job.

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Work work job.

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Lead. So work isn\'t that get up
brush your teeth Rabbi What did

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your time drink your liquids blade
the parts that get you what you

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want look for love find love keep love.

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All work is myth.

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Maybe jobs which duper money maybe work
what do you do for everything else

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to do but do job is
something that you have to

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do You know you you took to make

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money and work is something
that you love to do.

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That\'s how I see it yeah

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Simply as human nature to work for personal
fulfillment and of course for daily bread.

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Anyone who\'s had a bad work
experience will tell you the

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tremendous battering their
self-esteem toke so we know work is

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very important it\'s a primary
source of engagement it\'s

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a primary source of giving people
feelings of competence and mastery

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I think the two most important
question we can ask about work or

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this first about where is

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the joy in your work and how does our
work contribute to the jury of others

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We\'re always reading about work and

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everybody else\'s concepts about what
that is in the negative part of it and

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the positive part of it and they needed

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to react to that as well and
so when I brought in the hole.

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I want to do a show about
work they cheered it was

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yes we wanna say things about
work too about because by

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by doing that they are telling you about who
they are and I think that that human beings.

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Have a great need to tell each
other about who they are and

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work in my mind is who you are

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Hi I\'m Dez Kennedy.

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When somebody asks me and
what do you do I reply

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Well I usually write in the morning
and garden in the afternoon.

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I\'ve done all kinds of crazy
jobs in my time but for

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the past 30 years I\'ve been here on

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Denmark Ireland VC numbered
among the growing army of the

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self-employed What I do to
make a living is fairly

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unusual but really what is usual
about work these days there\'s

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a radical transformation happening in the
nature of work at change as profound as

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the Industrial Revolution and unbelievably
it\'s happening in less than a lifetime.

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We\'ve got more and more people who are

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overworked or under-worked
are out of work completely.

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We\'ve got working people whose lives are so

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stretched they have no time for
anything except keeping up with

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the job and we\'ve got the recently or

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chronically out of work who have
nothing but time on their hands.

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How did it get to be this way
that\'s what this program is about

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The nature of work the difference
between your life work and

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your job do we have
enough time for either of

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them why is working harder
not working you know.

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So many people that I know
in the service industries

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which is always given
as kind of the panacea

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for change in resource communities
as service and tourism.

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They can\'t get more than you
know 20 to 24 hours a week and

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oftentimes there\'ll be minimum wage
with very very few benefits and then

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what\'s happening and I mean
I see this so often in in

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restaurants and all over the
place is people have to put

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together 23 jobs Many people today are

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one paycheck away from being homeless I
see a lot of people who are going to

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be one paycheck away from

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disaster as they go from job to job
or cobble together a living you know

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temperature temp two temp
work what seems to be

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happening is there\'s a combination
of what is called globalization

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and is very imperfectly
understood but let\'s just call it

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opening up borders to
both materials and people

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And with that is technological change

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which is automating many jobs and meaning
that much work does not need to be

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done by human beings but can be done much
much more cheaply in the long run and with

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less human input by smart
machines and I would

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never suggest that the new world
is not full of fabulous jobs

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for many people but I think we
forget how many of the jobs

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in the new economy are not good jobs
how many of them are mindless jobs.

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How many of them in fact.

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Instead of empowering people
So we\'re often told they do.

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Simply in fact.

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Take power away from them.

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There\'s tremendous age discrimination
today even though you know on

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the one hand organizations are
crying the talent blues we don\'t

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have enough people there\'s intense competition
supposedly for talented there tell

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that to a 50 something who\'s
been looking for work for

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four years and they\'ll say I
don\'t believe that for 1 second.

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I\'ve gone. I\'ve I\'ve turned
myself inside out I\'ve taken

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every course I can possibly take
I bet his computer literate as

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any 22-year-old and I
can\'t find work this is

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an unsustainable situation That you
can\'t keep pretending that it\'s

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the fault of those workers that they have

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no job you can\'t expect 48
year-old people with no training.

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Except on a on a production
line to suddenly become you

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know day traders or worker catering
chefs or something like that

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it\'s just not going to happen and so I feel

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a really a moral point of
view that this is simply not

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acceptable to pretend that these
people somehow are at fault.

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The attitudes somehow that that we can
remove The safety net insist that people

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be self-reliant and still create
the kind of disposable workforce

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that\'s that\'s needed in the
in the kind of economy

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that that is the global economy it\'s
not going to work in the long run.

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Because the next time there\'s a
recession and it\'s going to be brutal.

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Those of us lucky enough to be
employed spend a huge amount of

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our time working but why
do we work besides putting

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bread on the table I mean
Plainly work gives us more than

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just an income it\'s a way of
structuring our lives a way of saying

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to ourselves and to others this
is who I am this is what I

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do this is where I belong in the world
how I contribute to the human community.

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Our work lets us say this
is why I\'m worthwhile

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and my life is worth living
you know our species needs

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work it needs work because work is
the way we give our gratitude and

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our blessing back to the community

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and when humans do not have
work when we\'re unemployed.

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All kinds of despair And self
hatred and violence sets

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here and we will know that
you can see the statistics.

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What we\'re doing of course is that
we\'re telling 18-year-old men and

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women the 1 billion people
that in the world that are

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either unemployed employed means
they have jobs that are so

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trivial and marginal they cannot
support themselves or their family

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or retelling them as we\'ve created
an economic system that\'s so

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ingenious so brilliantly
designed that they have no value

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and then we\'re surprised when
they hear it and they act

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out as this value they
become pregnant they get in

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gangs they start to sell drugs you know

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business essentially And we still
don\'t understand them then they

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become criminals they get involved they
get arrested we say oh now we know who

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you are you\'re not a teenager you\'re not a
young person you\'re actually a criminal.

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We have a place for you

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a healthier approach would be to ensure
that young people no matter where they are.

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Have a good place to live and rewarding
work to do this to Sao Paulo Brazil.

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It\'s difficult. Very difficult to recognize
as citizens needs street kids who

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are usually regarded as nobody When on the
streets and these kids are completely ignored.

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They are not regarded
as people with rights.

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He stomach kid just on h but
we are here to help them.

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Our main concern is first of all to make

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these rights that already
exist in law accessible to

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them they don\'t know how to
access these rights since

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the doors are closed to children who were
never cared for who don\'t have work.

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Who never went to school who never
had their parent\'s attention.

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Who never had anything Ricardo Is

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a street educator for project Travis E a
this is a unique partnership involving

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Canada\'s United Way and

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the Canadian International Development
Agency Brazil labour unionists and bankers.

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Its goal to help street children become

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active educated working members
of society the Portuguese word

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Travis psia means building
a bridge in this case

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a bridge between homeless kids and
the society from which they\'ve been

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excluded In our case it

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was a necessity for not
just a wish and it is

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an extremely uncomfortable
situation not only

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for those who are downtown every
day and you see these kids.

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See their eyes violence
the aggression robberies.

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All these things is to

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use good D. This life-threatening
situation in Brazil today is very

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embarrassing for the affluent people DG

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and it is a permanent or for the
victims themselves the street kids.

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So the question of self-esteem.

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Of human respect these are
things we cannot remain passive

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about We can\'t expect the government to

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take action or for the schools
and the police to solve.

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Where you add some Sarkozy
the lands that were once

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the kids have found a good place to
live either back with their families

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or in foster homes they graduate
to traverse ce is second stage.

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He sell it opens a new world
to them of education art.

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Culture and sports.

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Preparing them to find their place in the
real world of school and employment.

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Where they can feel like
valued citizens Rights and

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responsibilities as a key

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and I said look either associate with a
peaceful means that it is far to hexadecimal.

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You don\'t saw the fact that
these kids are no longer

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a permanent spread on the streets but
that they now have a name but I think

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you saw I had become

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painters workers and that they live with
their parents and siblings that they have

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seen money RPC and that they are

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producing our work that they have
played ball with children from the USA.

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Who came here through an exchange All that

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changed them into people and
made them feel equal to children

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of bankers and judges are very
Boyd revolution GMR is right.

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It\'s a revolutionary life change to go
from feeling worthless to feeling valued.

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From that crucial change you can with

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a little help began to create
a life with meaning and

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purpose Similar

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challenges exist

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in North American cities.

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Food chair is a Toronto based
organization working with

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food distribution it has created dozens of

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meaningful jobs especially
for people who\'d come to

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believe they were
unemployable meet Joey Eddie.

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I started out as squeegee
kid and then I went to

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this drop in center where they told
me to come in and apply for this job

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here and well for the first two
weeks I was like yeah right

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whenever I apply for a job
that I came in and applied for

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it and you got the job right
away and I went to the focus on

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Food Program And then I had enough
credentials to be rehired as

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a youth leader for the next
group that came in and

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then that went on pretty good and
then a couple more students were

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hired back from that group and
then I was continued hired

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on for youth leader again and
now we have this one program.

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Now I\'m pretty well running the warehouse.

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We\'ve become very successful
with these programs getting

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the pre-employment scale is showing up
on time knowing how to dress how to

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cooperate work as a team and It

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happened that the squeegee diversion
program was looking for a workplace.

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So this time we\'ve taken on 20 years

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and you can see their growth like they find
a place they get a health card a dental

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card they start getting
excited about work and

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I think it\'s the work is so
meaningful here that they take

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real pride in their work just like

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the environment and the idea behind it
to is feeding the homeless and putting

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back to the community but
what\'s community needs I think

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one of the most interesting funny stories
is that joined my can start live

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together and About two months
ago they went out and bought

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a freezer and it does
seem like overkill yes

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they would be thinking
about food in that way and

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stockpiling food and having
food and being interested in

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food and they never

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got to bind myself anything they
would like to have anything.

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Everything you need it was in a kit bag so
you can travel from province to province.

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Now I\'m starting to accumulate something.

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My boss now is she skated helped me get

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my license and so I can get occur
and save it up now for a car.

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So you get car insurance and stuff My parents
and show them that I\'m not such a failure.

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Failure and stuff like that is
pretty good things are looking

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up you know today we have 900 million people
underemployed or unemployed on this planet.

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That\'s the best of the industrial
revolution could do do we think

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the Information Age revolution which is going
to elite workforces is gonna do better.

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So we\'ve got to find a way to
rethink the social contract and

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rethink the nature of work and we
have to ask the question is there

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life beyond the marketplace

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if you\'re unemployed and you\'re not needed
in the market or government why not

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partner The non-profit
organizations in the community and

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local government to retrain and re-skill
you for a potential job and one of

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the thousands and not-for-profit
organizations they require

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paid at work as well as volunteer
work the city the province

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the government ought to be willing
to pay an income voucher that

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non-profit organization to pay a decent
social way so that man or woman who is

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not needed in the marketplace or government
but need in the community can have an income

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to create social capital the wellspring
of our society the social glue.

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It\'s gonna. It\'s gonna mean

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taxes but what I say to people is
you\'re going to be taxed one way or the

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other you\'re either going to be
taxed for a fortress society or for

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the renewal a community you\'ll
won\'t escape it You\'ll need to be

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taxed for police and prisons or be taxed to

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provide jobs so people can have
meaningful work in their communities.

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There\'s a there\'s a sort
of trade-off here which is

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okay you want and indeed you are
having a flexible workforce.

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Then the give back has to be that we

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get something to put underneath
all of these flexible people.

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So they have something to
rely on and something to

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build secure life on and
that\'s why I think this is now

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the time for the basic
income Basic income or

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guaranteed annual income is an idea that\'s
been booted around a lot in recent times it\'s

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controversial because it
smacks of handouts freeloaders

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getting something for nothing
in reality this is how it would

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work every month everyone rich or poor

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employed or not would receive a lump
sum payment from the government.

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No strings attached and the
same amount for everyone

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this basic income would not be taxed
but any additional income would be.

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Only the most frugal of characters could
live on guaranteed annual income but

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it would be part of a larger social
safety net of affordable housing and

00:20:57.590 --> 00:21:01.369
public health care Most
importantly it would

00:21:01.370 --> 00:21:05.869
erase the stigma of welfare our
tendency to blame the poor for

00:21:05.870 --> 00:21:09.779
their poverty and in today\'s
volatile workplace with

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so many people one paycheck
or one contract away

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from financial disaster
it would give a bedrock.

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Upon which everyone could feel
secure it took Canada a long time

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to get away from

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from the notion that
somehow if you were poor.

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You know because she came from a
bad family or it was because she

00:21:37.710 --> 00:21:42.169
didn\'t work harden for
because You didn\'t deserve

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not to be poor and in a way that\'s what all
of our social programs so that we have

00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:59.389
been so proud of until recently were all
about that that this isn\'t the way it

00:21:59.390 --> 00:22:07.023
ought to be I mean that people are not usually
the authors of their own misfortunes.

00:22:07.024 --> 00:22:10.518
Don\'t buy this picture
of people as being sort

00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:14.928
of lazy in degenerate and
they have to be whipped along

00:22:14.929 --> 00:22:17.854
in order to get up in the
morning and we instead

00:22:17.855 --> 00:22:21.288
buy into what we think we know
about our own kids and ourselves

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which is That we\'re not
like that most people are

00:22:24.500 --> 00:22:28.098
not they really want to be
useful they want to be part of

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society you wonder if if
if if basic income is

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a utopian ideal or or is there

00:22:35.840 --> 00:22:40.889
a pragmatic basis to it and would we
ever see it quotes in our lifetime.

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I think there\'s a very pragmatic
basis to it I\'ll take that

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first among other things it will it will

00:22:53.840 --> 00:22:59.209
allow consumer demand to
continue to exist and

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as I understand our economic system without
consumer demand we\'re we\'re up the creek

00:23:04.430 --> 00:23:07.488
What we forget is this
that you have to have

00:23:07.489 --> 00:23:10.969
a viable community before you can have a
viable marketplace it\'s not the other way

00:23:10.970 --> 00:23:13.519
around we always establish community

00:23:13.520 --> 00:23:17.929
first social capital first and then we can
have exchange in representative government.

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So the strength of a civil society is the

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wellspring the foundation for the strength
of the marketplace and government.

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Okay yeah what time let me just check.

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Yeah yeah that\'s okay I can squeeze
it in them find thanks bye-bye.

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And there they are the days weeks months
laid out as they\'ve been for centuries.

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So how come all of a sudden
there aren\'t enough hours in

00:23:43.999 --> 00:23:48.558
the day Why are we always running
out of time we\'re going crazy

00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:55.714
trying to save time but save it for what were
our parents this frantic our grandparents.

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Has time itself changed or is it us and

00:23:59.510 --> 00:24:03.438
the demands of our work may Burroughs
who works at a home office which you

00:24:03.439 --> 00:24:07.549
think would make life easier but how
she describes her date still has

00:24:07.550 --> 00:24:10.518
a familiar ring on the phone at

00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:14.029
six o\'clock in the morning I get up
at 530 AM on the phone it\'s six.

00:24:14.030 --> 00:24:18.109
I\'ve already put in you know
23 you know two hours work

00:24:18.110 --> 00:24:22.969
before Joshua gets up and then we make
his lunch and get him ready for school

00:24:22.970 --> 00:24:28.548
and he\'s off in then I carry on working
And the thing about technology and

00:24:28.549 --> 00:24:31.549
technology at home is that
it is not that it makes

00:24:31.550 --> 00:24:35.749
your work easier it extends
your workday enormously.

00:24:35.750 --> 00:24:38.958
So I\'m I\'m doing email
and he my best time for

00:24:38.959 --> 00:24:41.958
doing email somewhere around
midnight consequences don\'t get

00:24:41.959 --> 00:24:48.408
enough sleep I think the impact on individuals
is horrible in terms of the amount of

00:24:48.409 --> 00:24:51.679
stress one might well ask how can one have

00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:56.104
a life worth living well one is so
busy doing acting and achieving.

00:24:56.105 --> 00:24:59.898
Even in terms of actual
productivity can you really work

00:24:59.899 --> 00:25:03.918
in a creative thoughtful way
when all you\'re doing is acting.

00:25:03.919 --> 00:25:08.224
I wonder if it\'s not partly you know
this this this kind of sense of

00:25:08.225 --> 00:25:13.608
no Of the other limitless horizon
that you actually can do so

00:25:13.609 --> 00:25:16.789
much I mean I think our generation
grew up thinking that anything

00:25:16.790 --> 00:25:20.179
was possible and I really
think it\'s just a mindset

00:25:20.180 --> 00:25:24.199
that I was trained in so
some people are involved

00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:28.608
in in that is just not saying
no we\'re just habitually don\'t

00:25:28.609 --> 00:25:32.058
know how to say no to things people
have figured out his cool way to

00:25:32.059 --> 00:25:35.688
live longer which is to
live faster and even if

00:25:35.689 --> 00:25:38.928
you lived to the same
75-year-old you might have

00:25:38.929 --> 00:25:43.593
expected you can cram in a
150 years of charging around

00:25:43.594 --> 00:25:47.149
and that\'s actually I think pretty
attractive if if people hated

00:25:47.150 --> 00:25:51.634
this haste so much there would
be more people saying Oh

00:25:51.635 --> 00:25:54.708
Yeah when you ask someone how
are how are you what did

00:25:54.709 --> 00:25:57.559
they say they say off
just crazy around here

00:25:57.560 --> 00:26:00.349
I\'m so busy and really their boasting

00:26:00.350 --> 00:26:03.228
to you they\'re saying look at
me look how important I am I

00:26:03.229 --> 00:26:07.984
must be important because I\'m
so incredibly busy and so it\'s

00:26:07.985 --> 00:26:14.328
masked as a complaint but really it\'s a way
of asserting their value and self worth.

00:26:14.329 --> 00:26:18.033
I think we have become addicted to

00:26:18.034 --> 00:26:22.009
busy-ness do-ing act-ing achieving
it makes us feel alive it

00:26:22.010 --> 00:26:24.179
makes us feel wanted

00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:31.818
the idea of building a big slow clock
on which you can see just right on

00:26:31.819 --> 00:26:39.819
the face of it these Out in front of us owe
their own year-by-year implacable pace is

00:26:41.889 --> 00:26:45.338
meant to be some kind of a perspective on

00:26:45.339 --> 00:26:49.778
the acceleration of history and
technology and time so we can step

00:26:49.779 --> 00:26:52.899
outside the acceleration
sir take a breather and

00:26:52.900 --> 00:26:56.259
then looked back on fast-moving events with

00:26:56.260 --> 00:26:59.840
perhaps a longer deeper perspective

00:27:01.320 --> 00:27:06.129
the Clock of the Long Now is a
mechanical clock will tick.

00:27:06.130 --> 00:27:10.298
Once a year the century hand
will advance once every

00:27:10.299 --> 00:27:14.439
100 years and the chime or
ring every millennium for

00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.778
the next 10 thousand years Stewart brand of

00:27:17.779 --> 00:27:23.118
Whole Earth Catalog fame was intrigued
by the idea of a slow clock.

00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:26.659
Ever the Provocateur he wondered
if it might be a way to

00:27:26.660 --> 00:27:30.529
prod people into stopping
and stepping back long

00:27:30.530 --> 00:27:34.488
enough to think about what
kind of a world we want to

00:27:34.489 --> 00:27:40.129
create for those coming after us
this long-term responsibility is

00:27:40.130 --> 00:27:42.979
measured in centuries rather than in

00:27:42.980 --> 00:27:46.399
quarterly earnings after
all if each of us had

00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:50.524
one child and one grandchild that\'s them
that\'s the occupants of the next century.

00:27:50.525 --> 00:27:54.273
What do we owe them I\'m probably
owe them a fair amount and

00:27:54.274 --> 00:27:58.038
good responsible parents and grandparents
would have in mind a number of

00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:00.649
things that one would call responsibility

00:28:00.650 --> 00:28:03.829
has to do with preserving
options for them so that

00:28:03.830 --> 00:28:10.938
they\'re not left without a ozone layer
or relatively tractable climate.

00:28:10.939 --> 00:28:14.509
So they have aquifers and fisheries
and things like that those

00:28:14.510 --> 00:28:18.228
are pretty obvious but
then other things you

00:28:18.229 --> 00:28:21.048
probably want to spend some time thinking
about what do you want to be sure

00:28:21.049 --> 00:28:25.068
that those children and
grandchildren twice as

00:28:25.069 --> 00:28:31.698
many of them as a bus would want the sites
that or would regret greatly if we\'d

00:28:31.699 --> 00:28:38.784
somehow squandered It\'s a responsibility for
the greatest good for the greatest number.

00:28:38.785 --> 00:28:42.098
Actually has this time
component it was early on in

00:28:42.099 --> 00:28:46.029
my design career that I realized how
much of what industrial designers were

00:28:46.030 --> 00:28:49.659
doing was was making another at
something that\'s already been

00:28:49.660 --> 00:28:53.438
made just fine for the sake of market-share

00:28:53.439 --> 00:28:57.729
or something like that and I didn\'t
like I didn\'t like that idea I

00:28:57.730 --> 00:29:03.098
also I didn\'t like that as
doing CD Rom development that

00:29:03.099 --> 00:29:05.319
basically you know what I was doing

00:29:05.320 --> 00:29:08.378
was going to be on the shelf and then
off the shelf and then it would be

00:29:08.379 --> 00:29:11.843
a coaster in about three weeks

00:29:11.844 --> 00:29:14.528
when I heard about this
project I realized that it

00:29:14.529 --> 00:29:16.678
was it was all about building one object

00:29:16.679 --> 00:29:21.618
And not building it faster cheaper but
which is the event of the bathtub

00:29:21.619 --> 00:29:24.048
all of all industrial design
and production design

00:29:24.049 --> 00:29:27.304
now but building a kind
of slower and better.

00:29:27.305 --> 00:29:32.239
The Long Now Foundation is
acquired part of a mountain in

00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:38.613
Eastern Nevada in on top of this mountain
is a forest of bristlecone pine trees.

00:29:38.614 --> 00:29:42.349
Some of them are up to 5
thousand years old and

00:29:42.350 --> 00:29:47.373
the real estate guy and whitepine County
Nevada who made this deal happen.

00:29:47.374 --> 00:29:51.259
Has a practice that he has everybody
do up on top of the mountain

00:29:51.260 --> 00:29:55.024
when we visit there and he
says just take five minutes.

00:29:55.025 --> 00:29:58.084
Go sit under a bristlecone pine Tree.

00:29:58.085 --> 00:30:01.188
These are big things are 20-30
feet high and all gnarled and

00:30:01.189 --> 00:30:05.359
sculptural and beautiful
and forget the present.

00:30:05.360 --> 00:30:07.173
Thinking about the past.

00:30:07.174 --> 00:30:11.628
Thinking about the future tuple awhile
wondering when you\'re done with that combine

00:30:11.629 --> 00:30:19.629
back everybody

00:30:21.290 --> 00:30:23.089
has incredible experiences

00:30:23.090 --> 00:30:25.579
and we\'re talking about five minutes.

00:30:25.580 --> 00:30:29.779
Big old tree. So it does suggest there is

00:30:29.780 --> 00:30:34.579
an appetite for getting out of the
present getting into the long-term.

00:30:34.580 --> 00:30:42.439
In maybe we just haven\'t found enough
of the Really intriguing ways to do

00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:46.158
that yet and perhaps the Long Now
Foundation is about helping people find

00:30:46.159 --> 00:30:51.479
intriguing ways to get out of the President
get into the long-term Just take a break.

00:30:53.350 --> 00:30:58.218
Times become the most precious
commodity and our fast-forward lives.

00:30:58.219 --> 00:31:00.889
Perhaps the most disturbing
contradiction in the way

00:31:00.890 --> 00:31:03.559
many of us live is that we lack the time to

00:31:03.560 --> 00:31:06.079
do the things we claim are
the most important to

00:31:06.080 --> 00:31:09.034
us we\'re racing so fast
to achieve fulfillment.

00:31:09.035 --> 00:31:13.099
We have no time left for the
things that fulfill us most but

00:31:13.100 --> 00:31:17.149
what meaning does life have
if we don\'t have time to

00:31:17.150 --> 00:31:25.150
be who we want to be Juliet\'s shore is a
contemporary economist teaches at Harvard.

00:31:26.449 --> 00:31:29.223
Who\'s written a good book
called The overworked American

00:31:29.224 --> 00:31:32.703
and in it she says that we are
like stuck in of squirrel cage

00:31:32.704 --> 00:31:36.499
where we work to spend
and work to spend some

00:31:36.500 --> 00:31:41.748
more and she thinks he already way out
of this squirrel cage syndrome is to

00:31:41.749 --> 00:31:46.638
leave the squirrel cage and I think
this really encapsulates the problem

00:31:46.639 --> 00:31:52.189
that the Industrial Age the modern version
of work that we\'ve all inherited.

00:31:52.190 --> 00:31:56.088
Has done a number on our
souls EF Schumacher

00:31:56.089 --> 00:31:59.809
the British economist says that
if your body gets injured at work

00:31:59.810 --> 00:32:03.619
we have insurance but if your
solo gets injured you\'re on your

00:32:03.620 --> 00:32:07.729
own I just think that
there\'s many people who

00:32:07.730 --> 00:32:14.359
wouldn\'t know at least initially
what to do with periods of free time

00:32:14.360 --> 00:32:17.208
on the one hand there\'s this
kind of if you\'re not busy and

00:32:17.209 --> 00:32:21.588
overwork than you\'re nothing Or
you\'re a failure or whatever.

00:32:21.589 --> 00:32:26.209
They\'d be that but there\'ll be also
this kind of void which we fill with

00:32:26.210 --> 00:32:29.179
constant noise of radio television etc

00:32:29.180 --> 00:32:32.494
etc I mean that\'s what most people
do is they try to fill that silence.

00:32:32.495 --> 00:32:36.348
I think I think a lot of us to do this
is just part of being a human being

00:32:36.349 --> 00:32:40.564
because you don\'t have any
huge desire to contemplate

00:32:40.565 --> 00:32:43.999
the ultimate anything because
we put the ultimate anything

00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:48.183
is have we elevated work to the status of

00:32:48.184 --> 00:32:52.969
the the final and last high
performance sport against

00:32:52.970 --> 00:32:57.798
which we measure absolutely
everything and I think we\'ve lost

00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:04.623
our concept of play community neighborhood
People\'s religious interests art

00:33:04.624 --> 00:33:08.058
I was with 200 CEOs and CFOs

00:33:08.059 --> 00:33:10.759
and whatever arose and of

00:33:10.760 --> 00:33:15.708
Fortune 500 corporations that are Conference
Board meeting and I had the microphone for

00:33:15.709 --> 00:33:19.818
45 minutes and I asked them three
questions and I said how many of

00:33:19.819 --> 00:33:25.713
you want to work harder in five years
and you do now just raise your hand.

00:33:25.714 --> 00:33:31.129
No one raised their hand I said well how many
of you know somebody in your office who\'s

00:33:31.130 --> 00:33:36.874
a slackers just really thrown off So no one
raised their hand and said well that\'s good.

00:33:36.875 --> 00:33:39.948
So let me ask you one more question
I said how many of you know

00:33:39.949 --> 00:33:43.278
someone or are you yourself
spending too much time with

00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:46.729
your children raise your hand and

00:33:46.730 --> 00:33:48.559
said non raised their hand I said So let

00:33:48.560 --> 00:33:51.004
me ask you another question
is what are you doing

00:33:51.005 --> 00:33:54.829
what are you doing you
are creating a system in

00:33:54.830 --> 00:33:58.758
which you cannot spend enough time
with your children and no one else can

00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:02.328
either studying the mystics
over the years east and west

00:34:02.329 --> 00:34:05.958
as I have I was struck by how
much they have to say about

00:34:05.959 --> 00:34:09.243
work and yet how seldom they are invoked at

00:34:09.244 --> 00:34:14.268
board meetings or at when
businesspeople are economists come

00:34:14.269 --> 00:34:17.119
together talk about work I was struck by

00:34:17.120 --> 00:34:21.093
that that our spiritual
traditions consider work to be

00:34:21.094 --> 00:34:24.199
an integral part of the spiritual journey

00:34:24.200 --> 00:34:29.254
and Rocha the great poet
early in this century said.

00:34:29.255 --> 00:34:34.083
Somewhere there is an ancient enmity
between the great work in our daily lives.

00:34:34.084 --> 00:34:36.739
So he was implying that there\'s

00:34:36.740 --> 00:34:40.173
only one work in the universe the great
work which is a universe unfolding.

00:34:40.174 --> 00:34:43.668
But what is the relationship
of that work and our daily

00:34:43.669 --> 00:34:48.199
work that to me is a really
important question I

00:34:48.200 --> 00:34:51.948
feel enormously lucky and
privileged because for most of

00:34:51.949 --> 00:34:56.343
my life I\'ve been free
to do I love doing most.

00:34:56.344 --> 00:34:59.629
My work my life my home or all kind of tied

00:34:59.630 --> 00:35:03.979
together and express a lot
of who I am working at what

00:35:03.980 --> 00:35:06.678
you love is an ideal way to live

00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:10.969
unhappily most of us don\'t have that
opportunity either because we\'ve

00:35:10.970 --> 00:35:14.268
chosen to do something else or
because we had no choice to

00:35:14.269 --> 00:35:18.498
begin with it\'s somehow wasn\'t
in the cards life deltas.

00:35:18.499 --> 00:35:21.918
But if you\'re able to find and do what

00:35:21.919 --> 00:35:25.459
Bruce riddle called spirit
work you\'re on your way to

00:35:25.460 --> 00:35:33.460
solving the defining questions of our age
how can I find the time to do and be.

00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:41.800
What I want Yeah spirit work is is the best
work I think in many ways and you know

00:35:44.149 --> 00:35:47.688
and I get shocked out of it
all the time but when I\'m

00:35:47.689 --> 00:35:51.799
working on that part of my life
I loved the place that I\'m

00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.893
in when I\'m in there working on it and

00:35:55.894 --> 00:36:00.574
I think the trick is to sort
of maybe gets there always.

00:36:00.575 --> 00:36:05.569
Yes I see a job as being
what we work out just to

00:36:05.570 --> 00:36:11.059
get a paycheck to pay our bills and I
think that\'s altogether appropriate.

00:36:11.060 --> 00:36:14.658
At times that our life but
our work is something

00:36:14.659 --> 00:36:18.309
that comes from the heart and has
extended to the heart of others

00:36:18.310 --> 00:36:22.098
and The work is why we\'re really here

00:36:22.099 --> 00:36:26.889
and sometimes we get paid for
it and sometimes we don\'t.

00:36:26.890 --> 00:36:30.978
An American fable once upon a time way down

00:36:30.979 --> 00:36:34.698
south of the border in tiny
to paler Chihuahua Mexico.

00:36:34.699 --> 00:36:38.088
Soon to me legend was born when

00:36:38.089 --> 00:36:41.688
searching for my parents and I think I
have narrowed it down to two people

00:36:41.689 --> 00:36:46.609
could be Elvis measurement a
document and we asked could be

00:36:46.610 --> 00:36:51.348
mamamama shadow Gucci good
the child of Elvis and

00:36:51.349 --> 00:36:53.989
Charlie well you know they
work together in they were

00:36:53.990 --> 00:36:56.809
they were bought in Las Vegas
and 1960 which is then

00:36:56.810 --> 00:37:04.810
pamela my concepts via novelty My
name is Robert Lopez and I perform as

00:37:07.070 --> 00:37:15.070
Alvarez the Mexican Elvis Latino take Elvis
Presley turn the history the celebrations

00:37:16.819 --> 00:37:19.729
the problems of Latino and she kind of

00:37:19.730 --> 00:37:27.730
culture issues to fly

00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:38.370
on a hot and smog is some along
another brown babies born here

00:37:47.950 --> 00:37:53.283
That\'s another hungry
battle of the female body.

00:37:53.284 --> 00:37:58.369
My take on albums in the Ghetto was the
first delving into having a message

00:37:58.370 --> 00:38:03.498
or putting a political social
criticism idea across it

00:38:03.499 --> 00:38:05.809
just stemmed from you know wanting to say

00:38:05.810 --> 00:38:09.289
more while I have your attention might
as well say something that\'s on

00:38:09.290 --> 00:38:12.319
my mind and I think the way I do it is

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pretty interesting just because
it catches you off guard.

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Fill oaks was a contemporary of Dylan
folk-singer but he had this great.

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Quote if there\'s any
hope for America lies in

00:38:24.650 --> 00:38:27.888
a revolution And if there\'s any
hope for a revolution it lies in

00:38:27.889 --> 00:38:33.588
Elvis Presley becoming Che Guevara and
I thought that was a great idea for

00:38:33.589 --> 00:38:41.589
my rock and revolution tour
I became their Rising Sun.

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Try for one by

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three into blurring lines so what can be

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alkalis and what can be
entertainment what can be glitter

00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:16.298
I\'ve been a musician since I was 16 so I\'ve
had a lot of that had been dishwasher then

00:39:16.299 --> 00:39:24.299
waiter then cashier have been gallery
curator store managers for retail.

00:39:25.434 --> 00:39:30.563
Has been a model I\'ve done
a little bit acting but

00:39:30.564 --> 00:39:33.999
being a musician has been the most

00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.420
rewarding and the one that I\'ve
been doing a long listing.

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You got to love what you
do and sometimes it\'s

00:39:47.380 --> 00:39:51.258
good sometimes it\'s bad but
there\'s just as much Glory and

00:39:51.259 --> 00:39:55.069
being a good dentist as her
as being a rock star and

00:39:55.070 --> 00:40:00.363
I like the idea of blurring those myths
of artists are special people and

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farm workers not I mean they are

00:40:03.395 --> 00:40:05.099
all special

00:40:13.390 --> 00:40:16.559
specific way

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Yes you\'ve got to love what
you do you gotta get in touch

00:40:44.509 --> 00:40:47.658
with joy and I L. This
has Robert Lopez did.

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He\'s your genuine grindstone original and

00:40:50.689 --> 00:40:55.069
his spirit work takes many forms
a radicalized Latino Elvis

00:40:55.070 --> 00:40:58.668
being just one but hey how do those of us

00:40:58.669 --> 00:41:02.808
getting by on a regular paycheck
from a steady but pretty boring job.

00:41:02.809 --> 00:41:09.484
Take the leap from job to work for assault
support parent for example the risk.

00:41:09.485 --> 00:41:16.009
Might be just too scary I met
a woman in Washington DC.

00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:19.968
When I was doing my book signing tour.

00:41:19.969 --> 00:41:22.339
My reinvention the workbook and
you told me this story she

00:41:22.340 --> 00:41:26.448
said I had a job and I knew
it was a job because I hated

00:41:26.449 --> 00:41:30.498
it but I\'m a single parent
and I felt I couldn\'t

00:41:30.499 --> 00:41:35.028
take the risk of quitting it so I
dragged myself to work every day

00:41:35.029 --> 00:41:38.899
and I was making a decent living
but she said one day I got so

00:41:38.900 --> 00:41:42.948
outraged at work I quit on
the spot I was so angry that

00:41:42.949 --> 00:41:45.858
she said I was without work
for three months and it was

00:41:45.859 --> 00:41:50.899
scary but then she said I found a
job that is also my work and she

00:41:50.900 --> 00:41:53.569
said I\'m the happiest I\'ve ever
been in my life I\'m soaring like

00:41:53.570 --> 00:41:58.503
a like a bird Because I\'m
doing that really fulfills

00:41:58.504 --> 00:42:04.489
my my values and my heart desire at the same
time and getting paid for it so what this

00:42:04.490 --> 00:42:07.548
shows is that it\'s just one
more evidence that our work is

00:42:07.549 --> 00:42:11.298
itself is a spiritual process
work requires trust.

00:42:11.299 --> 00:42:14.208
Define your work and to leave

00:42:14.209 --> 00:42:19.698
a comfortable job for it is is an
act of trust and trust is in fact

00:42:19.699 --> 00:42:21.979
what the word faith means
it\'s about trusting

00:42:21.980 --> 00:42:28.909
the universe Alice and Chisholm is
an endangered but happy species.

00:42:28.910 --> 00:42:34.279
An independent organic farmer who has
figured out a way to earn a living.

00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:38.958
Doing what she loves The modern way of life

00:42:38.959 --> 00:42:43.639
seems to be that you have your home life and
you have your work and so you do your work

00:42:43.640 --> 00:42:46.339
and you finish your work and then you
go home and you have your life at

00:42:46.340 --> 00:42:53.539
home you could call farming

00:42:53.540 --> 00:42:57.109
a job but I tend I tend not to
call it a job or a career I called

00:42:57.110 --> 00:43:01.428
a livelihood And I think
the difference there is

00:43:01.429 --> 00:43:04.189
that you\'re not just working but
you\'re living you\'re living

00:43:04.190 --> 00:43:04.340
your

00:43:04.341 --> 00:43:05.789
work

00:43:13.720 --> 00:43:15.168
farming

00:43:15.169 --> 00:43:15.260
is

00:43:15.261 --> 00:43:19.398
A livelihood because it\'s something it\'s
natural it\'s ruled by the seasons and

00:43:19.399 --> 00:43:24.108
by the day I tend not to
have a day that\'s you know.

00:43:24.109 --> 00:43:28.979
Get up at eight and B it worked by
nine I tend to get up with the sun

00:43:43.770 --> 00:43:46.928
It\'s I guess it\'s hard to explain.

00:43:46.929 --> 00:43:52.358
It\'s just a way of life it\'s just
what you do from day to day.

00:43:52.359 --> 00:43:55.448
Rather than what you do from
this time to this time to get

00:43:55.449 --> 00:44:03.449
paid I think though

00:44:03.490 --> 00:44:05.078
increasingly people are looking at

00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.628
their core values and they are
asking themselves questions

00:44:07.629 --> 00:44:12.804
like why am I working out
what cost of my working.

00:44:12.805 --> 00:44:18.653
What am I getting out of this but what am
I giving up so if I\'m learning and gauge.

00:44:18.654 --> 00:44:21.594
But what is the cost of
this to my children.

00:44:21.595 --> 00:44:25.309
People are saying how can I
design a life That\'s worth

00:44:25.310 --> 00:44:29.689
living which incorporates rich
relationships with my friends

00:44:29.690 --> 00:44:32.794
with family with the opportunity to pursue

00:44:32.795 --> 00:44:38.389
artistic or athletic pursuits whatever it is
I personally engages me with the opportunity

00:44:38.390 --> 00:44:42.378
to work in a meaningful way I think work Is

00:44:42.379 --> 00:44:46.653
a lot like relationships you\'re
either in it or you\'re out of it and

00:44:46.654 --> 00:44:49.338
if you\'re in it you\'re
working really hard at

00:44:49.339 --> 00:44:52.158
it or not working hard and if
you\'re out of it you want it

00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:56.689
or you know it\'s the same I look at it the
same way you\'re either working or you\'re

00:44:56.690 --> 00:45:01.864
not working on lots of different
levels it\'s inescapable.

00:45:01.865 --> 00:45:06.090
There is no escaping work

00:45:23.500 --> 00:45:28.294
I think increasingly what we\'re
going to do hopefully at least

00:45:28.295 --> 00:45:32.299
is we will value all fields
of endeavor all activity

00:45:32.300 --> 00:45:35.478
whether it\'s the pursuit of
cultural activities time with

00:45:35.479 --> 00:45:38.689
children producing an income that in

00:45:38.690 --> 00:45:41.898
turn of course will liberate
work opportunities for

00:45:41.899 --> 00:45:45.573
those people who can\'t
participate economically.

00:45:45.574 --> 00:45:49.789
Me as you know the tragedy of
the new work order is you have

00:45:49.790 --> 00:45:54.678
two groups of people you have one
group who\'s working too hard and

00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:57.289
another group who can\'t get work or who has

00:45:57.290 --> 00:46:01.669
underemployed it may be by
virtue of us reconfiguring

00:46:01.670 --> 00:46:07.189
rethinking what work means and how many
hours people should be working We can

00:46:07.190 --> 00:46:09.498
start to engage all members of

00:46:09.499 --> 00:46:13.983
the community so that work can
be dispersed more equitably.

00:46:13.984 --> 00:46:19.998
How can we possibly achieve a more
equitable distribution of work and of

00:46:19.999 --> 00:46:24.064
time what if society and
especially government and

00:46:24.065 --> 00:46:29.029
industry recognized their moral
obligation to address this issue.

00:46:29.030 --> 00:46:33.739
Wouldn\'t everyone benefit and
to those who say we don\'t have

00:46:33.740 --> 00:46:38.764
time to fix something that
big the answer is y naught.

00:46:38.765 --> 00:46:45.409
All we really need is the vision to see
it clearly the will to get to work and

00:46:45.410 --> 00:46:53.410
the patience to see it
through There\'s a wonderful.

00:46:53.495 --> 00:46:57.138
Professor of learning
really computer learning at

00:46:57.139 --> 00:47:01.518
MIT named Seymour Papert he told me
this story that he and a bunch of

00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:03.799
his friends were eating at

00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:11.800
a and probably Legal
Seafood seafood restaurant

00:47:11.990 --> 00:47:16.189
in Boston and they\'re having
lobster as they do in

00:47:16.190 --> 00:47:20.598
New England and the question came
up can anybody eat a lobster.

00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.898
Completely without making a mess and in

00:47:23.899 --> 00:47:27.889
this group there was a person who
did it was a brain surgeon took

00:47:27.890 --> 00:47:35.838
him two hours and Patron\'s point
is that it wasn\'t his skill.

00:47:35.839 --> 00:47:40.638
He took the time appropriate
to the task which he knew

00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:45.409
about firm in his brain surgery and he
had a completely eaten lobster without

00:47:45.410 --> 00:47:48.483
a smidgen of mess after two hours

00:47:48.484 --> 00:47:54.330
and is peppered points out it wasn\'t
his scale that was his patients

00:47:59.740 --> 00:48:05.208
and so a seemingly impossible task eating

00:48:05.209 --> 00:48:10.219
a lobster without making any mass was
solved by just taking two hours to do it

00:48:10.220 --> 00:48:13.549
It makes you wonder what are
problems that we think of

00:48:13.550 --> 00:48:16.669
as completely unsolvable
that could be self if you

00:48:16.670 --> 00:48:24.670
took 20 years or 200 years and you go from

00:48:25.594 --> 00:48:28.849
the condition we\'re in now
of the can\'t be solved in

00:48:28.850 --> 00:48:32.194
two or three years politicians

00:48:32.195 --> 00:48:35.239
since that\'s sort of their timeframe
say well it\'s unsolvable.

00:48:35.240 --> 00:48:38.628
World hunger or whatever
we just can\'t solve it

00:48:38.629 --> 00:48:43.548
but if somehow permission
we\'re given encouragement or

00:48:43.549 --> 00:48:46.218
given it that\'s okay let\'s bear down on

00:48:46.219 --> 00:48:49.189
this thing for 20 years 50
years home it takes it\'s

00:48:49.190 --> 00:48:51.829
a problem we\'re solving just
stay with it until it\'s

00:48:51.830 --> 00:48:56.489
fixed Then you can eat a
lobster without making a mess

00:49:06.210 --> 00:49:14.210
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo

00:49:14.484 --> 00:49:22.484
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo

00:49:34.270 --> 00:49:38.839
What do I do to

00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:46.840
try and do this