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(gentle orchestral music)
(latch clanking)

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- Ready

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Got it.

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(equipment clattering)
Got it.

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Got it.

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Got it.

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Got it.

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(gentle orchestral music continues)

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(gentle orchestral music continues)

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- Apollonia is a
steel-hulled schooner.

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She's 52 foot on deck, 65 foot overall,

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very much like what you would've
seen on the Hudson River

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sailing freight and cargo 150 years ago.

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We will provide sail freight services,

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sailing goods up and down the river

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as a carbon-neutral alternative
to commercial trucking.

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If shipping is all about
just getting something

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from point A to point B as
fast and cheap as possible,

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like who cares about the consequences,

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then we can't compete, right?

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What we're trying to do
is bring awareness

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to what are the impacts and
what are the consequences

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of our shipping decisions,

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and what are alternatives we can do?

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(engine rumbling)

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That's great.

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The idea with Apollonia
is not that we're as fast,

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and it's not that we're as cheap

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as a box truck driving
down a highway, right?

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The point to us is that we are
providing a shipping option

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which doesn't have all
the negative externalities

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that are typically associated
with regular shipping.

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And then the other side of it is like,

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so what is the truck
driving down, right?

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The truck's driving down a highway,

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a highway that is made
of petroleum. (laughs)

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And then what's our sort
of highway, so to speak?

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It's the Hudson River.

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(gentle orchestral music)

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And so we all of a sudden
are able to interact

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in a peaceful way with the landscape

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and interact with the landscape
that we are supportive of,

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that we want to encourage,

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and that we can sort of
like gracefully be part of.

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We're looking forward to
starting to put the boat to work.

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We have a lot of obstacles
that stand in our way.

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There's the challenge of how
does sailing actually work

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on the Hudson River?

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What's our timeframe like?

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Are we able to communicate effectively

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with our shipping partners?

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Make sure we don't miss deadlines?

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Make sure we can actually do this

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in a carbon-neutral fashion?

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But I'm a firm believer that
we need to just go for it.

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So there's almost no amount of thinking

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that can get you through this stuff.

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And so we're gonna start
actually demonstrating

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what it looks like to have sail
freight in the 21st century,

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and that this technology
is still relevant to today,

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and that our services
will be a useful part

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of a green energy solution
throughout the Hudson Valley.

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(gentle music)

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It's after five years in the making,

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this is the first time we can
say we're getting underway

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and we're gonna sail to New York City.

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We are gonna explore along
the way and we are bound

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for New York with our
hold full of cargo,

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so it's a big day for us. (laughs)

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We've got an awesome cargo right now.

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We've got everything from
corn, from Stone House Grain,

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we've got pillows
from LikeMindedObjects.

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We have malt from Hudson Valley Malt,

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and we have hemp oil extract.

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Yeah, like, so most of the people
we're working with, right,

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are conscientious producers
and consumers

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in the Hudson Valley.

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- A big part of this
product as well as we think

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about localizing supply chains,

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and then what that supply chain

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looks like as far as distribution.

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- From the producer point of view,

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they're very aware of
all the inputs that go

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into their goods, right?

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Like whether it's organic ingredients,

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whether it's items that are sourced

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from like fair labor situations.

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For the consumers
on the other end of it,

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the same way you can decide
when you're in the supermarket,

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it's worth it to me to spend
another 40 cents on this thing

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because it's organic and because
I know that pesticides are

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hurting pollinators in my area

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and that's something I care about.

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The transportation side of
it is often kind of invisible

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and so that's a big part of what we need

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to do is sort of take the blinders off

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and start paying attention
to what transportation means

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and what the impacts of that are.

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For years we've been doing
the restoration project,

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and sort of talking about
how people are interested

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in a shipping alternative,

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but now it's amazing to
actually see it come to fruition

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and it turns out yes there
are people interested

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in a shipping alternative
and we're just so pleased

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to be able to finally provide that.

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- We're making malt the
way they made it in 1850.

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Old school, okay?

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And so here you are on the
Apollonia taking this now

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to up and down the Hudson River,

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to our brewers and our distillers

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the way it would've been
shipped in 1850.

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So that's pretty cool.
- Totally. Totally.

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When you start talking
to a shipping partner,

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they wanna know how fast
you're getting something there.

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We're not Amazon.

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We're not guaranteeing
this thing in six hours.

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In fact, we're guaranteeing you

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a responsibly delivered good,

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and to be responsibly delivered,

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that might take a little more time.

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If you knew when you
clicked "I want it next day"

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what that was doing to a person's life,

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I bet a lot of people would
just make the decision

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to click, "Oh, I could
take it in four days."

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That's fine, let the guy have his break.

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I think that's what we all
need to do is start realizing

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that there's a difference
in those options

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and there is a cost.

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(gentle music)
(people chattering)

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Original crew.

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- [Camera Person] Stand up
higher, stand up higher.

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One, two, three.
- Great.

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(group claps softly)
- Great.

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Sam's so ready to be
done with the photo.

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(gentle music continues)

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- [Spectator] Oh wow. That's real nice.

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(ropes whirring)

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(crew chattering)

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(birds squawking)

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(music swells)

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(gentle music continues)

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(birds chirping)

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- It's day two of our passage
to New York City from Hudson,

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and we're sort of doing what
we've been dreaming about doing

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and what our predecessors did,

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which is trying as hard as
we can to figure out how

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to use the natural forces to move

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everything that's in
our cargo holds south

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so we can eventually deliver it.

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Let's go downwind a tiny bit more, huh?

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- Cool.
- 'Cause I guess

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we should start heading
where we're heading.

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- It's a cool job nowadays
to be a sailor, you know?

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Back, what, 200 years ago,
that was a common thing,

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but these days if that's
your profession,

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people are usually impressed. (laughs)

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I've only lived in this area for a year

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and I was just doing dock work,

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but I was on the dock
getting my first day tour,

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and the dock master was like,

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"Oh, like this is a steel
schooner, it's a cargo schooner."

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And I'm like, what?

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I've been in the sailing
world and I'd never heard

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of sail freight as a modern thing.

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I ran into Sam on the docks
and he showed me a tour

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of the boat and I said, "I
wanna be part of your crew."

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And he said, "Okay." (laughs)

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It's just dumb luck I guess,

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but then also a lot of
enthusiasm. (laughs)

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- Being from the Cape,
I grew up around boats.

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So I know boats very well,

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but the ins and outs of
sailing as a sport is something

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that I've gotten competent at
this past year being involved

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with this project, which is really cool.

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I think it was on my way back
to Cape Cod and I just drove

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up here to say hi and
meet and greet everybody,

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and the day I arrived was the day

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they were stepping the masts.

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So instead of, you know,
meeting everybody

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and seeing what was up, it was like,

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"Hey, do you know what you're doing?

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Do you have an extra hand?
Can you stay?" (laughs)

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So I stayed for a week and
didn't know them at the time,

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but that was that.

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- The thing about Apollonia,
she's just beautiful, you know,

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and like no one can not
pay attention to something

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so beautiful as Apollonia.
(gentle music)

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Every place we have docked,

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people just come up and
ask a lot of questions.

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It's like a really great way
to engage with the public.

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She's a floating
environmental message.

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- If you talk to someone
who knows boats really well,

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they often look at Apollonia,
and there is this moment

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where they're like, you know,

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it's a little weird what we
have going on here, right?

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We've got a traditional rig,

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but we're using modern
materials and honestly this hull

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is a steel hull with a Detroit diesel,

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and so we actually, we've
had awesome conversations

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with a lot of the tugboat guys,

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'cause in some ways they
see us as a work boat.

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If you know boats you're like,
this is not a yacht. (laughs)

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The neat thing about we're
doing is we're certainly looking

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to the history to learn
lessons for the future.

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The Hudson River was the
original superhighway

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of our region.

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I mean, you go back to the early 1800s,

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and that's how everything was
being moved around this area.

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(birds squawking)
(gentle music)

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- [Crew Member] Yeah.

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(crew member speaking indistinctly)

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(gentle music continues)
(crew member laughs)

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(crew members chattering)

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- There, that's the real log pile.

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Yeah, this was just a warm up.

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Should we do a little group stretch?

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- Hey Sam, how are ya?

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- So far, so good. How about you?

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What's going on here?

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- We're working on choosing some images

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for the sail freight exhibit
which will be coming up.

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- Excellent.
- So we got 1860s or so,

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with, there's at least
two schooners in there,

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mostly sloops,

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but there's two schooners.
- (laughs) Great.

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- I wrote my master's
thesis on what it would take

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to bring sail freight back to the US.

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Sam is the captain of Apollonia,
which is

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the only sail freighter
active in the US at this time.

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Well yeah, that too.
(Sam laughs)

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Yeah, these are all barrels.

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If you walked down the Rondout,

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especially out to Kingston
Point in 1860, 1870,

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around the peak of sail freight,

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you're gonna see a lot of sails.

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There's 150 miles of
navigable water on the Hudson.

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You're looking at like 250,
400 vessels going up and down,

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pretty much constantly.

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Sail freight carried
literally everything.

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The Hudson Valley essentially
built New York City,

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so massive amounts of cement
mined out of the veins

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of dolomite limestone in this
area, huge amounts of bricks.

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Bluestone was a huge
thing for sidewalks here.

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Anything agriculture
that isn't fresh produce

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was basically moved by
sail freight as well.

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- All over the world, sail
freight is a proven thing.

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That's how things were moved.

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Then there was a momentary blip, really,

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in the sort of human
experience where oil became

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so affordable and internal
combustion engines took over,

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and we decided that
moving a little bit faster

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and keeping a schedule
was was more important.

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(gentle music)

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- Looking to our
pre-carbon past can give us

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a lot of the answers we need
for a post-carbon future.

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- Shipping has all these
negative impacts.

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If shipping were a country it would be

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the sixth highest polluting
country in the world,

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and that's, like, just the
ships going across the ocean.

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And I'm not suggesting that
everything has to be shipped

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on a sailboat, like,
that would be crazy,

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and that's not what we're doing.

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But what we can do with the sailboat is,

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in a really direct way, is
we can show a perfect example

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of harmony with nature, of not
having these externalities,

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and get people to think, well,
what are the alternatives?

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(gentle music continues)

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- The Apollonia replaces trucks.

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A two-and-a-half-ton truck
gets 30 ton miles a gallon.

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To do that same trip in that truck

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is 80, 90 times as much carbon.

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In 2019 in the New York metro area,

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just from traffic congestion,

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335.9 million gallons of gas
were wasted.

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That much gas is 5 million tons of CO2.

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(gentle music continues)

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- We are in real trouble as
people, like as a species,

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that has now jeopardized
basically every other species

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on the planet as well.

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(traffic rumbling)

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All we can do is, you know,
make the biggest difference

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that's possible in our life,

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and try to create a model we want.

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- When COVID happened, it was
kind of a natural experiment

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for a lot of what people
have been talking about

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in the sustainability
world for a long time.

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We saw in the month of April

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a 17% decline in carbon emissions.

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We have an indication now,

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and we can see what some of
the effects of moving away

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from our current system will allow.

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It gives a lot of evidence
for what the larger situation

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that sail freight would be
a part of can contribute to.

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Apollonia is doing a lot
of that reconnaissance

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and a lot of that proof work.

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But it is gonna be critical to having

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a working sail tradition
that can basically pick up

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where it left off 100 years ago,

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and then bring it into the future.

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(waves splashing)

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(crew chattering)
(birds squawking)

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- So she was built in 1946 in Baltimore.

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She was designed by a naval architect

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and built at a proper
shipyard in the US.

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And when I found her she had
actually been out of the water

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for almost 30 years,

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and she was in a backyard
outside of Boston.

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The boat wasn't really seaworthy,

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there was an engine but
it wasn't even hooked up.

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This one comes off.
Just slide that radio out.

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So I had quite a bit of
work to do to get the boat

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in any condition where
it could just motor home.

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So I put every weekend and
every bit of free time I had

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into figuring out how to
safely get the boat home.

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I don't know. Oh wait-

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- I think it's worth
planning for one second.

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- Okay.

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(hand sweeping)

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(torch hissing)
By mid-October, 2015,

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I think I had the boat
in good enough shape

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that we felt like we could motor home,

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and I got an amazing crew of friends

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and volunteers together.

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- Hey cheers!
- Cheers!

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(bottle thunks)

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(groups laughs)

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- Oh.
- Now you gotta break it.

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- Now I gotta break it.

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Okay, let's see.
- Yay!

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(bottle bangs)

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(group cheers and laughs)

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- That what you're supposed to do?

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(group laughing)

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- [Group Member] But like we
can always remember the little-

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- Cheers. Bring it in, Sam.

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- Hey, cheers.
- Cheers.

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- Cheers.
- Cheers.

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- But it was just literally,
can we get it home

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without it sinking to
the bottom of the ocean,

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was kind of the first challenge.

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Then we finally got home,
and then the real work

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of trying to figure out how to turn it

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into a sailing vessel began. (laughs)

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(machines buzzing)

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You know, it wasn't the
only thing I was working on,

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because there was no money
coming from it, (laughs)

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so it couldn't possibly be.

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But yeah, over the course
of about four years,

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I slowly worked away,
project after project.

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(indistinct)

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But I think at many
moments over the four years

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while we were building the rig,
I would've expressed a lot

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of frustration in how
slow things were moving.

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But it is one of those interesting
things when you sit back

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and reflect on it
where you realize just

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how many relationships you
built over all that time,

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which I would never have
if we just had the money

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to buy our own material. (laughs)

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We just brought our, hopefully,
future booms and gaffs

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and club back from finding them.

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They're abandoned leftovers
of other boat building project

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from the '90s, and we're pretty excited,

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'cause we get to use
amazing old hardwood

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without having to cut down
any new amazing old hardwood.

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I love the idea that
we're able to take trash

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and reappropriate it into
the rig on this boat.

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All the blocks that we built,
we built through a series

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of workshops here at the
Maritime Museum, and honestly,

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the Maritime Museum has become
a serious partner for us

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in much of the programming we're doing.

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And that all started

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with a block-making workshop right here.

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At various moments when we had
no idea how we're gonna pay

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for the next coat of paint
or anything that we needed,

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we actually launched a sponsorship

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for the blocks where people
could sponsor a block

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and we'd carve their initials in it.

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And so we have, you know,
people from farms down in,

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you know, Putnam County
who have, like, sponsored

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one of a block that's, like,
part of our running backstay.

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You know, it's kind of amazing.

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It did happen slowly,
and there's many moments

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I wish it had happened faster,
but it was really wonderful

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to engage people in the effort.

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We're actually finally
launching the boat that a lot

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of people have been
watching and sort of curious

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when will ever be done,
I'm sure, (laughs)

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but at least understand that
this is something that means

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a lot to me and the other
people who are involved in it,

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and we take it seriously and
this isn't just like a stunt

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or like a publicity gimmick, you know?

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This is, like, we really want
sail freight to come back

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to the Hudson River and really believe

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this is gonna be the start of it.

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(cheerful music)

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(water splashing)

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(cheerful music continues)

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- Sailing the Hudson is hard.

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It's the hardest sailing I've ever done,

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and I have done most
of my sailing on oceans

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with like a lot of
swell and a lot of wind.

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- It's hard. (laughs) It's really hard.

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People always say that the
Hudson is a great place

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to learn how to sail.

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It's like a crash course,

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like all the different
things that could go wrong

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stuck together in this
tiny little area. (laughs)

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But it's also easier
because you don't have

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to do compass bearings,

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because you're on a
railroad track basically.

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(laughs) It's like, you're
either going north or south.

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- [Sam] Okay, keep this, keep this.

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I know it feels like you're
heading toward the bridge,

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but you are, but just a
second we're gonna tack.

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- [Matthew] Right, and then
we'll be clear of this one.

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- Bring about!
- Bring about!

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- Tack.
- Coming over!

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- Apollonia is an ocean-going vessel.

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Basically she is meant to go
across oceans, set and forget.

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But the way we sail her,
like, there's no downtime.

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You need people working all the time.

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The Hudson, the wind is always changing.

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The currents are often
stronger than the wind is,

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so you really have to think

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about where the current's
coming from every time you sail.

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(gentle music)

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The Hudson is also just full
of, like, submerged jetties

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and, like, an old shipwreck.

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We've run aground a
number of times. (laughs)

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They say in the Hudson,
"If you haven't run aground,

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you haven't been around,"
and that is very true. (laughs)

00:22:01.872 --> 00:22:05.289
(gentle music continues)

00:22:14.767 --> 00:22:17.350
(serene music)

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- What we need to do is
establish trade routes,

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and to me what a trade
route is, it's a connection.

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Something's made somewhere it
needs to get somewhere else,

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and we're connecting
it by the water, right?

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And as we start to understand
these trade routes,

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like, we can sort of assess
how well Apollonia fits for it.

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I'm very excited about
the way it can scale,

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in that it's supporting
more and more boats, right?

00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:10.650
And it could scale up either
through a number of vessels

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or potentially just through one vessel

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that's a little bit larger.

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All of a sudden the
freight starts becoming

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a lot more reasonable.

00:23:16.515 --> 00:23:18.810
(crew chattering)
(sail flapping)

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- Sail freight has a lot of
different classifications to it,

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and basically three rungs
on the ladder of trade.

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You have inland trade, inland waterways,

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which would be like us on the Hudson.

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We're technically an inland waterway,

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and that's gonna move
food down to the city.

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Once you're in the city though,

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you might not just deliver there,

00:23:36.120 --> 00:23:37.950
you could then move to the
next rung on the ladder

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which would be coastal
trade, and that would be,

00:23:39.840 --> 00:23:42.390
for example, from New York to Tampa,

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or along these coastal routes

00:23:44.340 --> 00:23:46.230
where you can connect things together.

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And then the third is the more
what people usually think of

00:23:50.040 --> 00:23:53.403
with shipping, which
is transoceanic routes.

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Getting to that future
is literally as simple

00:23:57.600 --> 00:23:59.450
as what Apollonia is doing right now.

00:24:01.449 --> 00:24:03.993
- I see it, personally, as a test case.

00:24:05.340 --> 00:24:06.840
Realistically it's gonna be hard

00:24:06.840 --> 00:24:08.190
to get the numbers to add up,

00:24:08.190 --> 00:24:10.260
but that's not what it's about for me.

00:24:10.260 --> 00:24:12.540
'Cause it's worth exploring these things

00:24:12.540 --> 00:24:15.270
and having them fail
than looking at the numbers

00:24:15.270 --> 00:24:16.680
ahead of time and thinking

00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:18.780
that it's not a good bet,
and not doing it.

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- Here comes Newburgh.

00:24:22.830 --> 00:24:24.270
- One boat?

00:24:24.270 --> 00:24:27.390
Okay, that doesn't really do too much.

00:24:27.390 --> 00:24:29.130
But if you learn what needs to be done,

00:24:29.130 --> 00:24:31.920
what needs to be changed
and you apply that,

00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:35.880
and you launch 500 other boats,
that is a massive impact.

00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:38.754
(water splashing)

00:24:38.754 --> 00:24:40.950
(crew chattering)
(birds squawking)

00:24:40.950 --> 00:24:42.810
- We're tied up in Newburgh.

00:24:42.810 --> 00:24:44.790
We have to unload some of Dennis' malt,

00:24:44.790 --> 00:24:46.650
get it to the brewery here,

00:24:46.650 --> 00:24:49.170
then crew gets a little rest
while the tide is flooding.

00:24:49.170 --> 00:24:50.850
As soon as we've got
a favorable current,

00:24:50.850 --> 00:24:53.430
we'll be out of here probably
first thing tomorrow morning,

00:24:53.430 --> 00:24:55.383
heading south for New York Harbor.

00:24:55.383 --> 00:24:56.850
(crew members chattering)

00:24:56.850 --> 00:24:57.990
- Right here.

00:24:57.990 --> 00:24:59.610
- Matt, if it's possible to do it

00:24:59.610 --> 00:25:01.700
with bung up top like
it is and watch it as

00:25:01.700 --> 00:25:02.915
it lifts or something, I don't know.

00:25:02.915 --> 00:25:04.498
- Right here.

00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.051
- Oh yeah, that was nice.

00:25:08.051 --> 00:25:11.202
(crew members chattering)

00:25:11.202 --> 00:25:12.410
- [Crew Member] Oh that?

00:25:12.410 --> 00:25:14.340
That might not be...
(crew members chattering)

00:25:14.340 --> 00:25:15.673
- [Crew Member] Oh, okay,
that too, yeah.

00:25:15.673 --> 00:25:18.083
- [Crew Member] It has to be even,
though.

00:25:18.083 --> 00:25:19.132
Over there? Right there.

00:25:19.132 --> 00:25:20.757
(indistinct)
Back right, yeah.

00:25:20.757 --> 00:25:23.460
- It's a kind of a beautiful
thing about the Hudson River,

00:25:23.460 --> 00:25:25.380
you know, all these cities
along the river are connected,

00:25:25.380 --> 00:25:29.853
from Germantown all the
way down to here in Newburgh.

00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:33.600
So this delivery happened,
Dennis called me,

00:25:33.600 --> 00:25:37.260
and I had had an order
with him that usually

00:25:37.260 --> 00:25:40.477
he just drives it down to me
in his truck, and he said,

00:25:40.477 --> 00:25:44.850
"Would you be interested in,
you know, getting it by sail?"

00:25:44.850 --> 00:25:47.760
And I was like, "Okay, sure, why not?"

00:25:47.760 --> 00:25:50.850
I mean, I know the docks
are all right here,

00:25:50.850 --> 00:25:52.350
which our brewery's two minutes away,

00:25:52.350 --> 00:25:54.704
and he got me in touch
with Sam and Apollonia,

00:25:54.704 --> 00:25:57.270
and we coordinated and here it is.

00:25:57.270 --> 00:26:00.570
And everything went well today. (laughs)

00:26:00.570 --> 00:26:03.600
I had definitely never
envisioned sail freight

00:26:03.600 --> 00:26:05.633
to deliver our malt.

00:26:05.633 --> 00:26:08.466
(engine rumbling)

00:26:09.541 --> 00:26:12.541
(crickets chirping)

00:26:18.084 --> 00:26:20.917
(ship horn blows)

00:26:24.390 --> 00:26:28.018
- You know, I've mostly sailed,
like, little catalinas and so,

00:26:28.018 --> 00:26:29.700
you know, I obviously you
have to have a bigger boat

00:26:29.700 --> 00:26:30.533
if you wanna move stuff,

00:26:30.533 --> 00:26:35.533
but I didn't feel comfortable
getting into a huge vessel.

00:26:36.150 --> 00:26:38.490
I feel like Apollonia
is the perfect boat

00:26:38.490 --> 00:26:41.640
to, like, start sail freight
on the Hudson River.

00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:43.530
I feel like as the movement grows,

00:26:43.530 --> 00:26:45.840
it's likely not quite as
large of a vessel as you want

00:26:45.840 --> 00:26:48.450
to really move stuff,
but so far we've never had

00:26:48.450 --> 00:26:50.970
a cargo load that we haven't
been able to carry, right?

00:26:50.970 --> 00:26:52.890
I mean, one thing, obviously
we don't really have

00:26:52.890 --> 00:26:54.840
enough crew quarters in a sense.

00:26:54.840 --> 00:26:56.010
Like, we obviously have enough space

00:26:56.010 --> 00:26:57.930
for people to sleep, but--

00:26:57.930 --> 00:26:59.880
- [Tanya] We have enough space
for three people to sleep.

00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:02.158
- Well, look at this
giant bedroom, right?

00:27:02.158 --> 00:27:02.991
(group laughs)

00:27:02.991 --> 00:27:05.110
- I mean, I would be happy
to sleep here all the time.

00:27:05.110 --> 00:27:06.332
- Yeah.
- I don't,

00:27:06.332 --> 00:27:08.414
it doesn't really matter but...

00:27:08.414 --> 00:27:10.350
- No, I mean if we can--
- But we've never run

00:27:10.350 --> 00:27:11.700
in cold weather, either.

00:27:11.700 --> 00:27:12.903
- Yeah.
- Yes. True.

00:27:14.337 --> 00:27:16.110
But I feel like being cold's
better than being hot.

00:27:16.110 --> 00:27:18.713
- [Matthew] I agree.
(Sam laughs)

00:27:19.560 --> 00:27:22.023
- [Sam] Sleeping bags are amazing.

00:27:22.023 --> 00:27:25.023
(crickets chirping)

00:27:28.423 --> 00:27:32.090
(people chattering faintly)

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(waves splashing)

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(radio static hisses)

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- Security call.

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Schooner Apollonia will
be under sail southbound,

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bound for Brooklyn.

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(uplifting music)

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(water splashing)

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- Along the Hudson,
the scenery changes a lot,

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but it happens slowly and
you don't really realize

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you're getting anywhere
until you see the city.

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It's just the coolest way to show up.

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- That was something.
We were listening to Coltrane,

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which we thought was appropriate,
and it was beautiful.

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Yeah.

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(uplifting music continues)

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So this is the first time the
boat's really in saltwater,

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really in an open bay with serious wind,

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and it was just like...

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It was awesome.
(water splashing)

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- Here we are sailing
down to New York City,

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one of the biggest markets in
the world, with our cargo hold

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full of stuff from the Hudson Valley.

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So, pretty exciting.

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First stop is South Street Seaport,

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so that's the bottom
of Manhattan Island.

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There's a market there
we're gonna be involved with

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with our partners
at Fulton Stall Market.

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And then we push off to Brooklyn,

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where we're bound for the Gowanus Bay

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to tie up with our friends at
the Ready Center in Redhook.

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(uplifting music continues)

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(cheerful music)

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(waves splashing)

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(cheerful music continues)

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- Matt, tell me when.

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- Thank you so much.

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(cheerful music)

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(traffic rumbling)
(music slows)

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(people chattering)

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- [Brad] Let's make the slip
(indistinct)

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- [Customer] Yes,
we found full yard pile.

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- The bounty of the Hudson Valley.

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My name is Brad Vogel,
and I am the supercargo

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for Schooner Apollonia.

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A supercargo is someone who
is in charge of the cargo

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on the vessel, and historically
they would be representing

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the person or the entity
that owned the cargo

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that was on the ship.

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They'd go with the ship,
and then when you got to port,

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the supercargo was in
charge of selling that off

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at the highest price, trying
to get the greatest return.

00:31:54.629 --> 00:31:57.780
(people chattering)

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Prior to the 1950s, the
way that goods would move

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from a boat to shore was

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you would have longshoreman come down,

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they would have their hook,
they would muster for the day,

00:32:08.550 --> 00:32:11.070
they'd get picked out,
they'd go down to the dock.

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It was still most of the
offloading being done by big gangs

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of human beings.
(gentle music)

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Containerization was this
understanding that you could skip

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some of that by mechanizing
this offloading of cargo

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and the transport of
cargo by standardizing

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a shipping container, 'cause
you could then build vessels

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that could take this set
form and volume of cargo

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in a way that everyone understood

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was the standard way to ship it.

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So you're making giant
piles of containers,

00:32:51.090 --> 00:32:53.190
and those can only move
on giant vessels,

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and so then there's only a few
ports that can handle vessels

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that large or have the
appropriate cranes.

00:32:58.770 --> 00:33:02.760
That really minimized the
maritime commerce realm

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down to a few specialized nodes.

00:33:05.760 --> 00:33:08.370
So like the Port of Newark-Elizabeth,

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and Long Beach on the West Coast.

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There's a much smaller number of places

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that are actually viable ports.

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- To attempt to be financially
and economically efficient

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is to be fragile.

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- This is what the traffic
bottleneck looks like

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at the ports of LA and Long Beach.

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There are dozens of cargo
ships just sitting in the water

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waiting to be unloaded.

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- There's actually not enough
truck drivers to clear up

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the backlog at the ports.

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- The supply chain is so long,

00:33:37.410 --> 00:33:40.001
but depends on such tight timing,

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that there's a massive opportunity
for anything to go wrong

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and no way to deal with that
on either end if it does.

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You have to design resiliency

00:33:51.030 --> 00:33:52.350
into sail freight infrastructure

00:33:52.350 --> 00:33:54.720
because it cannot run on a schedule.

00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:58.110
Loading by hand breakable
cargo requires more labor

00:33:58.110 --> 00:34:01.170
than working with containers,
so there will be jobs there.

00:34:01.170 --> 00:34:02.880
So you're gonna need sailors

00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:04.923
and dock workers and warehousing.

00:34:05.850 --> 00:34:07.290
- Now, there's so many
things that have happened

00:34:07.290 --> 00:34:10.890
that have sort of shown us
that we need local resiliency

00:34:10.890 --> 00:34:13.020
and we need alternative
solutions for doing things,

00:34:13.020 --> 00:34:16.410
and we wanna make sure that
we have a different way

00:34:16.410 --> 00:34:17.430
when something's not working out

00:34:17.430 --> 00:34:19.260
the way we expect it, right?

00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:23.760
- The Apollonia is not meant
to be a history project.

00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:26.790
It's really a very
forward-looking venture,

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because it sets the stage

00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:33.390
for a whole reawakening
of potential ports.

00:34:33.390 --> 00:34:38.010
It's a venture that is
re-knitting local geographies

00:34:38.010 --> 00:34:41.103
together in the way that
they grew organically.

00:34:43.530 --> 00:34:47.310
We're going to have a chance
to at least show people

00:34:47.310 --> 00:34:50.280
there is another way and to
get people to start thinking

00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.070
about the other ways to transport goods.

00:34:53.070 --> 00:34:56.400
We can afford to have a
little bit more time elapse

00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:59.670
if we, the consumer, know
that we're doing this

00:34:59.670 --> 00:35:02.370
for the right reason, and the
right reason is we're shipping

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with power of the wind and
we're staying as off fossil fuel

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as we possibly can from the
time it leaves the producer

00:35:09.753 --> 00:35:12.483
to the time that it actually
gets to the end consumer.

00:35:13.490 --> 00:35:16.907
(gentle music continues)

00:35:25.557 --> 00:35:27.727
(water splashing)

00:35:27.727 --> 00:35:30.310
(serene music)

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- 2020 was such a challenging
year in so many ways

00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:41.640
that no one could possibly predict,

00:35:41.640 --> 00:35:43.530
so it certainly wasn't the pilot season

00:35:43.530 --> 00:35:45.840
that I had predicted.
But that said,

00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.390
yes, this was the year
that we had a crew,

00:35:48.390 --> 00:35:50.820
we had the boat under sail
power and we moved cargo

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up and down the river.

00:35:52.260 --> 00:35:54.772
(uplifting music)

00:35:54.772 --> 00:35:56.100
You know, it was a slow build,

00:35:56.100 --> 00:35:57.840
but you can't build community overnight,

00:35:57.840 --> 00:35:59.670
and hopefully other vessels will join in

00:35:59.670 --> 00:36:02.010
and we'll certainly find
more shipping partners

00:36:02.010 --> 00:36:04.740
as we keep going, and part of
what this season has taught me

00:36:04.740 --> 00:36:06.420
is you gotta just kind of go for it.

00:36:06.420 --> 00:36:08.670
And I'm just so happy that
Apollonia is in a place

00:36:08.670 --> 00:36:10.050
where we're able to go for it.

00:36:10.050 --> 00:36:12.480
We're able to start demonstrating
what we're talking about,

00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:14.610
and then we're able to just
sort of see what sticks.

00:36:14.610 --> 00:36:16.770
And as long as we're making connections

00:36:16.770 --> 00:36:18.390
and building community as we do it,

00:36:18.390 --> 00:36:20.047
I think it's all valuable.

00:36:20.047 --> 00:36:22.880
(uplifting music)

00:36:26.700 --> 00:36:28.050
This is a solution

00:36:28.050 --> 00:36:30.583
that creates a world
that I want to live in,

00:36:30.583 --> 00:36:32.910
a good world of, like, maritime jobs,

00:36:32.910 --> 00:36:35.910
a good world of, like,
no-carbon transportation,

00:36:35.910 --> 00:36:38.215
a good world of connectivity.

00:36:38.215 --> 00:36:41.520
(uplifting music continues)

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We can do something radically different,

00:36:44.220 --> 00:36:47.253
and I feel like that's what's
cool about sail freight.

00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:51.630
And it works well within
parts of the existing model

00:36:51.630 --> 00:36:53.970
and it totally screws
up other parts of it,

00:36:53.970 --> 00:36:56.220
and I'm all about shaking
it up a little bit.

00:36:57.570 --> 00:36:59.250
I think that we have to.

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We have big problems ahead of us,

00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.030
and we need to think very creatively

00:37:03.030 --> 00:37:05.380
to make solutions that
are actually gonna work.

00:37:06.276 --> 00:37:09.943
(uplifting music continues)

00:37:35.516 --> 00:37:39.183
(uplifting music continues)

00:38:02.891 --> 00:38:06.558
(uplifting music continues)

00:38:36.662 --> 00:38:39.245
(gentle music)

00:39:01.263 --> 00:39:04.680
(gentle music continues)

00:39:11.081 --> 00:39:14.081
(slow upbeat music)