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(intense music)

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(crickets chirping)

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-: We are here to celebrate something incredibly special.

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Something that has never been done before,

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it's unprecedented in a variety of ways.

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Our celebration is an exciting one,

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because one, it's an indigenous truth,

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which doesn't always come to Washington D.C.

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We are here to propose to President Barack Obama

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a national monument, asking the Obama administration

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to strongly consider the use of the antiquities act

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of 1906, to give his presidential proclamation,

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and turn into law the protection and preservation

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of these lands we call the Bears Ears.

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Woman: A battle over the question of local control

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versus federal power is playing out

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in the western U.S. once again.

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Woman: President Obama has made yet another move trying

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to cement his legacy as an environmentalist.

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Man: Republican lawmakers have suggested he shrink it,

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or simply stop funding it.

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Man: They're gonna start restricting it,

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restricting access.

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Man: The arrogance of a monument is offensive.

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(crowd chanting)

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Man: Environmentalists say they're ready

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to defend Bears Ears in court,

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an attack on one national park makes all of them fall over.

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(birds chirping)

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(indigenous music)

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-: Sometimes I come out here just to listen.

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Our ancestors, you know, they're here,

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they're still here.

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I can hear them through the breeze,

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like the birds chirping out there, and I feel like I'm home.

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There's a pottery chip here, some right there.

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That needs to be preserved and protected.

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We're about five miles from Bears Ears,

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south of Bears Ears on Cedar Mesa.

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People, they come around,

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and they ask us, why?

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Why is it so important?

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There's nothing out there.

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The juniper trees, there's gums and saps on here.

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They use it for sores and stuff like that.

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That's medicines for us.

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I don't have electricity in my home today.

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I don't have running water yet.

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See, that's how I live.

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So, when they ask me, how are you connected to this land?

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I look at them and say,

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Did I hear the question right, or? You know?

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All they do is they turn out the light,

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or they turn on their air conditioner and they're, okay.

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They turn on the TV and they're okay.

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They put the food in the microwave

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and then they're all right, you know.

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Everything is there.

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But us, over here, we live this, you know?

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(choral music)

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We need to preserve whatever we have,

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that's all we got left.

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(orchestral music)

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-: Well, this area has long been one

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of the greatest concentration of archeological sites

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in North America.

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I mean, every archeologist knows about it.

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Utah, it's geographically,

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and climatically an interesting place.

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So, there's lots of rock uplifts and rock exposures.

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And dry areas, so those things are really good

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for preserving archeological evidence of the past.

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I mean literally, there are hundreds

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of thousands of archeological sites here.

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Each one of one those sites

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is a treasure of historical information about the past.

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We don't have books left by the Anasazi,

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by the Pueblo People, they didn't write books down.

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Every one of those sites is a record of human occupation

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in the human family history.

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And they encompass all kinds of things,

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from simple scatters of artifacts,

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to magnificent cliff dwellings,

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to incredible art on the walls,

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and things of great significance to living native people.

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Before Europeans arrived and claimed the land as their own

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and forcibly drove the natives from it,

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land ownership was a completely different kind of a notion

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than we have in the historical European notion

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of land ownership.

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And most of the people who were in this region historically

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were hunter gatherers, and so they moved a lot.

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They didn't live in one place and stay there forever,

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so they ranged over large territories.

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-: The government in the 1800s decided

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to put us in various parts of the reservation.

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And spread us out,

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so that we would no longer be one united tribe.

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-: The original land that belonged

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to the Native Americans,

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today, we've only retained about 2%.

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And that's why we have Hopi, Zuni, Houma and Ute,

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Yu Tribe, Navajo,

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all of these tribes have a strong spiritual

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and historical connection to Bears Ears land.

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'Cause we've all lived there,

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or our ancestors lived there,

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and today the spirits of our ancestors

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still roam in Bears Ears lands.

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-: The last 75 years or so,

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people have done more or less as they wanted to

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with these federal lands.

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There's lots of archeological looting here,

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it was kind of a long time practice.

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Man: In monument valley,

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a driver must have strong hands on the wheel.

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Man: The archeological community bears

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on a certain amount of blame.

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Because there were archeologists

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who came down here in the early part

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of the early 1900s collecting artifacts

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for their museum exhibits,

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and they taught the local guys

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how to find the best artifacts.

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Man: This may be the grave of a basket maker Indian

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who lived 1500 years ago.

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-: We train FBI agents, enforcers, BLM,

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and other federal officers

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how to identify sites which were looted.

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Long ago, a particular site was looted,

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whatever was found, the price generally starts

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as low as quarter of a million dollars.

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Gives you an idea of what that pottery is worth.

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(orchestral music)

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-: People in Blanding went out

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for most of their lives and collected pottery,

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and they collected arrowheads and those kind of things.

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So, the FBI, under the direction of the BLM law enforcement

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conducted two separate raids of families in Blanding

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with the intention of confiscating those collections.

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Man: 1800 hours in, Dr. Jim and Jeannie Rudd.

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Nice to meet you.
-: Meet ya.

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Man: Nice house!

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Man: Thank you very much.

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You can come and sit down if you'd like.

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Man: Thank you

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Woman: Oh, I found that

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Man: Oh really? Okay.

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Woman: Baby mummy cave is what they call it,

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five babies were buried there.

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Man: Yeah baby, okay.

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Still mummies in there, or?

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Woman: They, they were.

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Um, yeah.

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-: Dr. Red delivered my second daughter.

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He would teasingly say things,

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asking, oh, I bet you know some really good areas

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on where to get pottery and rugs.

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We didn't know at the time

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that he had been stealing artifacts.

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(crowd laughs)

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-: They had this big beautiful door

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that opened up into their entry way,

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and all of a sudden, all I saw were,

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everything that was Anasazi.

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I was in shock.

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Man: How 'bout if we did, 1000 for that one?

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500, 600, and eight.

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-: Dr. Red, James Red and his family

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were caught digging in a site on State land,

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and they were excavating in a burial.

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One of their defenses was, it wasn't really human bones,

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it was just old Anasazi bones, old Indian bones.

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So, they tried to avoid prosecution

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for abuse of a dead human body,

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and unfortunately Dr. Red chose to take his own life,

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rather than face the consequences of that action.

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-: There were two other people

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that also committed suicide as a result of that raid.

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The people were, they're angry

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with BLM law enforcement in general,

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because BLM law enforcement was the leader of those raids.

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-: In our culture, those are our ancestors.

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It's basically a burial site.

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I mean, I don't think anybody

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would appreciate anyone going into any cemetery

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and taking clothes, or jewelry,

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or whatever you're buried with.

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-: And to see that dug up,

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in someone's home, like they have no respect for that?

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I no longer have respect for that person,

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because they don't have respect of who I am,

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and where I come from.

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That's just how I see blindly now.

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Man: It's a terribly sore spot down here.

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There's a lot of room for some healing

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and some understanding.

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And it's unfortunate that protection

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of heritage resources can be such a community divider.

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There were proposals going back 60, 70, 80 years

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to protect some of this area as a national monument,

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or a national park,

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but for political reasons, it never was.

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(orchestral music)

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-: These environmental organizations,

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they proposed a massive Red Rock wilderness bill.

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It just hasn't got much traction

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until about three years ago,

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when there was some talk about a public land initiative,

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or a PLI.

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-: The county appointed a certain number of citizens

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to be on a council to recommend various ideas

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of designations that we felt would

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be appropriate for the county.

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And in that time, we came up with some wilderness,

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some conservation areas.

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We had definitely a mining corridor.

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Everyone would get a piece of the pie.

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-: As much as we don't lobby for federal designation

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or local resources, maybe we could get something

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out of it.

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So, the county, by saying we agree

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to large swaths of wilderness,

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we would get some extractive ability in the other places.

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-: That PLI process went on for a couple years,

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and we were holding public meetings with

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our constituency, we were presenting maps and plans.

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Some of the groups that were involved

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with us decided they didn't like

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what we were doing, and so they pulled out

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of that process.

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(wind blowing)
(birds chirping)

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-: The tribes wanted to show,

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we wanted to engage, we wanted to be able

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to say we want to actively be at the table of negotiations.

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We can't live with what's written

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into the document at that time,

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because we just needed to just smooth over

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and get a better understanding.

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It was rather disturbing when we were told

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that not much was going to change out of that document.

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-: By the time it left the county,

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and it went to Ron Bishop

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and then everybody else had their say on it.

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There wasn't a citizen, or a person on that council

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that really liked the final product.

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(crowd booing)

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-: What we are trying to do

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with the public lands initiative

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is come to a balanced approach.

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You help out to our recreationists,

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you have conservation needs,

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you have energy development,

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you have a whole host of--

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(crowd boos)

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-: The hearing will come to order.

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The subcommittee on federal lands meets today

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to hear a testimony on HR-5780,

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the Utah public lands initiative act.

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Unfortunately, the bill strays significantly

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from the time tested management language

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that this congress and other congresses

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have used for decades when it protects public lands.

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-: HR-5780 falls far short of what it would take

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to reach a legitimate compromise

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and leaves many of the stakeholders,

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including the regional Native American communities,

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no choice but to oppose the legislation.

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-: The environmental communities started backing the proposal

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by the Five Tribe Coalition.

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They started proposing for Bears Ears national monument.

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-: Up to that point, the movement was originating

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from a grass roots organization

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and the voices from community people

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who were bringing forth those conversations

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of preservation and conservation

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and continued access, and were gettin' nowhere

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in their conversations with the county and the state.

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After six long years,

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they decided to change up the whole approach.

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And we're going to exercise the one thing

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our people have always had.

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And that's sovereignty.

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We have that honor and right to march to D.C.

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-: Can you talk a little bit more about why you chose

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to leave the negotiations?

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-: On December 31st,

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we all gathered in White Mesa,

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and were supposed to have a meeting with staff members,

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and that morning we received a letter

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that that wasn't going to happen.

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-: Many of the indigenous tribes in this country

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are feeling that need to be heard.

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Because I don't think a lot of people,

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even our closest neighbors

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quite understand some of the historical traumas

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that my people have endured.

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-: We have attempted to,

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to try to continue the conversations

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with Chairman Bishop and Chaffetz

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and through several of those meetings,

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we just didn't feel quite like we were taken seriously.

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-: The day that I testified was a day

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that I totally did not expect.

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I had started making my testimony,

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and had been cut off.

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-: What state do you live in?

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-: I live in Toya, Colorado.

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-: In Colorado, okay,

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this bill affects the State of Utah,

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could you tell me how many of your board of directors

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are from Utah, or in particular from San Juan County?

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-: We do have federal trust lands, as well as--

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-: Okay, so if the national monument's such a good idea,

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can you explain why you support on in your home state,

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but you do support one imposed against the wishes

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of the local community in another state?

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-: They mentioned if I would support the Sleeping U Mound

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becoming a national monument, that's the reservation,

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in all actuality, the tribe does have--

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-: Thank you, I'm gonna have to cut you off,

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because my time is short.

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-: Pretty much badgered by a majority of the committee.

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-: You made a statement in there

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of the December meeting in which a staffer

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was supposed to attend.

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And you were told it wouldn't happen,

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and that was the trigger

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that allowed you no longer

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to actually deal with us.

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Do you know what that staffer was not able

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to attend that Christmas time meeting?

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-: No, I stated that that was the trigger

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that launched the discussion--

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-: Do you know what that staffer

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was unable to attend the meeting?

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-: If I recall correctly, a loss of a family member.

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-: He was attending his father's funeral.

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Now with all due respect,

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do you not think that's a wiser choice of his time?

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-: Well yes, but--.

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-: That's all I had, which is why I

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was very offended by the statement that you made,

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that hurts very deeply,

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and I'm sorry, that's the wrong type

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of approach to take on this type of legislation.

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Woman: Well, if I, with all due respect--

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-: No, no, I'm sorry, I wanted that to be very clear.

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That was the proper approach,

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and if that was the trigger, then shame on you.

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With that, Mr. Chairman, let me go back to you.

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-: I've never been treated like that.

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I have people that I call my family.

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They're not native.

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They're farmers, they're settlers, they're ranchers.

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And I call 'em my uncles, I call 'em my brothers,

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and I've never been disrespected like that.

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Woman: Thank you Mr. Chairman, first Ms. Whiteskunk,

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I just wanted

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to give you a chance to follow up

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on your answer to Chairman Bishop.

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-: Thank you,

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If I recall correctly, we'd received an email

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that morning that that staff member

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was not going to be there.

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I would have figured that

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if the funeral was scheduled that day,

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we would've received some more leeway

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in terms of--

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Woman: When we asked Representative Rob Bishop

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and Jason Chaffetz if they knew

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where the headquarters to the Yuma tribe is,

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they didn't know, not one of the representatives

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ever knocked about the door of the Yuma Tribe.

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-: And with that, I yield back glad though,

00:20:14.090 --> 00:20:15.650
that as the circus begins,

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I'm gonna hear from my cohort down there, Chaffetz,

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who has a master at the art of circus,

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he's mastered the high wire act perfectly.

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-: There's this great place in Bears Ears we

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can put this high wire and, I'm just teasing.

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-: And we decided, if they're not going

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to take us seriously,

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we're not going to extend the courtesy

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of engaging in the conversation

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for the public lands initiative, we're done.

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We're going straight to D.C.

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-: A controversial announcement from the White House today,

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President Barack Obama designated Utah's Bears Ears area

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as a national monument, now the announcement comes

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after years of input from tribes elected officials,

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and proposed legislation introduced in congress.

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-: I think the statement that's being made

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is one of politics,

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and that the process involved is really disappointed

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to me, because clearly as we know,

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that 60% of people in Utah are opposed

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to a national monument.

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-: The arrogance of a monument is offensive.

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For all the lip service the democrats give

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to bipartisan and meeting,

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and we wanna accomplish this,

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it seems to be their way or no way.

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-: The antiquities act

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does not give the federal government unlimited power

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to lock up millions of acres of land and water,

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and it's time we ended this abusive practice,

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and now we're going to free it up.

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-: I loved Monitcello, I went to elementary school,

00:22:17.170 --> 00:22:18.410
high school here.

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Monticello was a quiet town.

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Everybody knows everybody on a first name basis.

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There's not a lot of high paying jobs,

00:22:26.330 --> 00:22:29.610
there's not a lot of big money in Monitcello.

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If you can scratch out a living

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and raise your kids here

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and have some good experiences,

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that's really why people live in Monticello.

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-: This little tiny chunk of land right here

00:22:46.660 --> 00:22:49.300
that's in white is private property.

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That's all of the private property out

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of 5 million acres we have.

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8% of the county is private property.

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-: So we went in earnest

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for a good two years on that public lands initiative

00:23:01.630 --> 00:23:06.400
and everything that we offered was taken

00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:09.080
by the Bears Ears monument designation

00:23:09.080 --> 00:23:12.530
by President Obama, with absolutely nothing given

00:23:12.530 --> 00:23:14.570
as a quid pro quo.

00:23:14.570 --> 00:23:16.110
So, that's not a good way

00:23:16.110 --> 00:23:19.670
to engender feelings of team work and trust.

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Yet that's what they wanna come back

00:23:21.010 --> 00:23:23.010
and say, hey this is good for everybody.

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-: We don't think the federal government

00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:31.930
has to be looking over our shoulder every time

00:23:31.930 --> 00:23:34.623
we try to do something on that public land.

00:23:42.350 --> 00:23:45.490
-: Well, we're blessed to live in a public lands county.

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And all my life growing up,

00:23:47.460 --> 00:23:50.030
that just meant that you could hunt,

00:23:50.030 --> 00:23:51.410
and you could gather firewood,

00:23:51.410 --> 00:23:52.880
and you could do a lot of things without having

00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:54.250
to try to get permission.

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In the recent decades, that's kind of changed a little bit,

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and you start to find yourself more and more a trespasser,

00:24:01.800 --> 00:24:05.663
in what has been your area and where you live.

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Blanding is the community that wakes up and sees Bears Ears

00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:17.580
on the horizon.

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I've seen it my whole life.

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It's not a Obama thing, it's not a Trump thing,

00:24:22.310 --> 00:24:25.200
people should live in an area like this

00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:27.483
without fear of being blind.

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-: So we looked at our administrative assistant

00:24:32.650 --> 00:24:33.920
in commission meeting one day

00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:37.840
and we said, call Secretary Zinke's secretary,

00:24:37.840 --> 00:24:39.150
and see if we can get an appointment

00:24:39.150 --> 00:24:42.090
to go visit him in Washington D.C.

00:24:42.090 --> 00:24:44.240
So, we got on the airplane, we flew out,

00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:45.970
went to the department of interiors,

00:24:45.970 --> 00:24:48.610
sat down, met him, tried to show him

00:24:48.610 --> 00:24:51.003
what existed on the ground.

00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:56.400
Part of the information that I gave Secretary Zinke

00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.780
was a resolution from the San Juan county commission,

00:25:00.780 --> 00:25:04.233
asking him to rescind the monument.

00:25:11.840 --> 00:25:14.690
Secretary Zinke was coming to San Juan county,

00:25:14.690 --> 00:25:16.450
we had no idea.

00:25:16.450 --> 00:25:18.290
We all met at the Blanding Airport.

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The governor had ordered three black hawk helicopters

00:25:21.590 --> 00:25:23.250
to meet us there.

00:25:23.250 --> 00:25:26.103
We had planned a flight over the Bears Ears.

00:25:27.090 --> 00:25:30.200
In two day, they probably spent close

00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:31.805
to eight hours with us.

00:25:31.805 --> 00:25:33.770
(crowd clamoring)

00:25:33.770 --> 00:25:38.770
He wanted to hear what the local people who live here have

00:25:39.560 --> 00:25:41.170
to say about the monument.

00:25:41.170 --> 00:25:42.937
All: Stand with Bears Ears!

00:25:42.937 --> 00:25:44.670
Woman: It wasn't the warmest welcome

00:25:44.670 --> 00:25:47.585
for department of interior secretary Ryan Zinke today.

00:25:47.585 --> 00:25:48.418
-: We would like

00:25:48.418 --> 00:25:51.990
to see the Bears Ears National Monument preserved.

00:25:51.990 --> 00:25:53.930
For our children.

00:25:53.930 --> 00:25:57.900
-: I'm here to get acquainted with the issue.

00:25:57.900 --> 00:25:58.733
Woman: And a big part

00:25:58.733 --> 00:26:01.880
of the issue is protecting tribal sacred lands,

00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:04.410
Zinke says, which is why today he met

00:26:04.410 --> 00:26:06.940
with Utah's top Native American leaders.

00:26:06.940 --> 00:26:09.010
-: This is the first time they're at the table.

00:26:09.010 --> 00:26:14.010
And there is distrust of previous efforts

00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:20.200
that the tribe and tribes in this case, aren't heard.

00:26:20.320 --> 00:26:22.260
But the secretary promised the voices

00:26:22.260 --> 00:26:24.410
of the tribal leaders will be heard

00:26:24.410 --> 00:26:27.883
and so will the voices of others in the communities.

00:26:28.860 --> 00:26:33.680
-: Zinke only met with the Coalition of Five Tribes

00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.710
for only one hour in Salt Lake City.

00:26:36.710 --> 00:26:40.283
When he came down the Blanding,

00:26:41.330 --> 00:26:45.130
we were outside, tribal leaders in the parking lot,

00:26:45.130 --> 00:26:47.370
and they left in the helicopter.

00:26:47.370 --> 00:26:51.842
They left us alone, they didn't invited us.

00:26:51.842 --> 00:26:53.982
Woman: Zinke, is there a reason why you're not listening

00:26:53.982 --> 00:26:56.196
to tribal leaders?

00:26:56.196 --> 00:26:57.986
Zinke are you gonna visit with the tribes more?

00:26:57.986 --> 00:26:59.346
-: Be nice!

00:26:59.346 --> 00:27:00.179
Woman: I'm so nice.

00:27:00.179 --> 00:27:01.012
-: Be nice.

00:27:01.012 --> 00:27:05.750
-: In contrast to when former Secretary

00:27:05.750 --> 00:27:07.703
of Interior Jewel came down,

00:27:08.910 --> 00:27:12.563
she spent about a week meeting with both sides,

00:27:14.053 --> 00:27:19.053
and she gave equal timing for the people supporting

00:27:19.740 --> 00:27:22.330
the monument and the people who were against the monument

00:27:22.330 --> 00:27:23.790
in the county.

00:27:23.790 --> 00:27:26.270
-: You know, I strongly believe there was fair time

00:27:26.270 --> 00:27:27.103
for both sides.

00:27:27.103 --> 00:27:30.160
And I know people that say, well, he just ignored us.

00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.330
But as the secretary of interior,

00:27:32.330 --> 00:27:33.977
one of the most important people you can meet with

00:27:33.977 --> 00:27:35.340
are the elected leadership,

00:27:35.340 --> 00:27:37.330
because they're the ones that really speak for the people.

00:27:37.330 --> 00:27:39.693
So, he did spend a lot of time with elected officials.

00:27:39.693 --> 00:27:40.920
-: There's some of the narratives are

00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:44.160
that the Native Americans were supportive

00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.830
of the monument and it was white people

00:27:46.830 --> 00:27:48.210
that were opposed to it.

00:27:48.210 --> 00:27:50.760
And it was interested that of the Navajo nations

00:27:50.760 --> 00:27:54.290
that do support the monument, there's one that doesn't.

00:27:54.290 --> 00:27:55.570
It's the one that's there.

00:27:55.570 --> 00:27:56.730
-: In San Juan county,

00:27:56.730 --> 00:28:00.110
there are seven Native American chapters

00:28:00.110 --> 00:28:03.200
of those seven chapters, there's only one

00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.270
that is predominately Utah residents.

00:28:07.270 --> 00:28:12.270
The other six have Utah and Arizona residents.

00:28:12.330 --> 00:28:14.550
-: Some of the things that you see on the surface,

00:28:14.550 --> 00:28:17.620
you say, well, there's a Native American population

00:28:17.620 --> 00:28:18.453
that wants it.

00:28:18.453 --> 00:28:20.828
I think the Utah Navajo are opposed to it.

00:28:20.828 --> 00:28:22.960
And I think that's reflective in the fact

00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:25.990
that there's three commissioners in San Juan County.

00:28:25.990 --> 00:28:29.910
Two of 'em are white, one of 'em is Native American,

00:28:29.910 --> 00:28:30.840
Rebecca Benali.

00:28:30.840 --> 00:28:34.830
She as elected by a strong majority to represent her people,

00:28:34.830 --> 00:28:37.500
and she is adamantly opposed to this monument.

00:28:37.500 --> 00:28:38.860
-: Do I have the correct information,

00:28:38.860 --> 00:28:40.427
or is it true that six

00:28:40.427 --> 00:28:44.240
of the seven Navajo Nation Utah chapter houses

00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:46.700
have passed resolutions in favor

00:28:46.700 --> 00:28:48.300
of the monument in the proposal.

00:28:49.360 --> 00:28:51.160
-: It depends how you read it.

00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.730
Some of those resolutions say national conservation area

00:28:54.730 --> 00:28:56.200
or national monument.

00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:58.830
-: The 26 southwestern tribes,

00:28:58.830 --> 00:29:00.880
the 250 plus members

00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:02.702
of the National Congress of American Indians

00:29:02.702 --> 00:29:05.129
that have passed resolutions in support,

00:29:05.129 --> 00:29:09.243
specifically in support of Bears Ears National Monument.

00:29:12.855 --> 00:29:13.688
Aren't these resolutions

00:29:13.688 --> 00:29:16.217
from sovereign units of government

00:29:16.217 --> 00:29:18.820
important in the decision making?

00:29:18.820 --> 00:29:21.160
-: Again, I will qualify my answer by saying,

00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:22.490
how many people were there

00:29:22.490 --> 00:29:24.850
to actually pass these resolutions?

00:29:24.850 --> 00:29:27.310
Because some of these resolutions were only passed

00:29:27.310 --> 00:29:29.460
by 17 or 18 people,

00:29:29.460 --> 00:29:34.460
versus there's over 2000 grassroots Utah Navajos

00:29:34.530 --> 00:29:35.970
that live in the county

00:29:35.970 --> 00:29:37.720
that would affect them, that are opposed

00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:39.540
to a national monument.

00:29:39.540 --> 00:29:43.660
-: Unfortunately, sadly, Rebecca Benali

00:29:43.660 --> 00:29:46.390
is a member of a Navajo Nation,

00:29:46.390 --> 00:29:51.390
but she supporting the conservation agenda.

00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:53.540
She promised a war with everybody,

00:29:53.540 --> 00:29:55.960
but when she got elected,

00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.880
she turned 180 degrees.

00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:00.920
-: We're close to the New Mexico border,

00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:02.484
Utah border, Arizona.

00:30:02.484 --> 00:30:05.220
Indian tribes didn't have borders,

00:30:05.220 --> 00:30:07.514
they didn't have imaginary lines that say,

00:30:07.514 --> 00:30:09.750
you live here in this area.

00:30:09.750 --> 00:30:13.560
They roamed, they walked, they fished, they hunt,

00:30:13.560 --> 00:30:15.860
and they took their families to different places

00:30:15.860 --> 00:30:18.450
that, this was the territorial range

00:30:18.450 --> 00:30:20.410
of many, many Indian tribes.

00:30:20.410 --> 00:30:23.495
-: In all actuality, when you say Native Americans,

00:30:23.495 --> 00:30:26.700
you have to really almost break it down

00:30:26.700 --> 00:30:29.360
into what tribe, and what community.

00:30:29.360 --> 00:30:33.040
Because, there is that movement

00:30:33.040 --> 00:30:35.280
that began to change from being supportive

00:30:35.280 --> 00:30:36.600
to being non supportive.

00:30:36.600 --> 00:30:39.500
Because of a lot of missed information.

00:30:39.500 --> 00:30:41.060
It's how they put it out,

00:30:41.060 --> 00:30:43.240
and how people are understanding it,

00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:44.883
which get rather confusing.

00:30:45.738 --> 00:30:47.593
-: And this is a democratic society.

00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.757
Majority, vast majority of Navajo,

00:30:55.124 --> 00:30:56.080
of Native Americans

00:30:56.080 --> 00:31:01.080
in San Juan county support Bears Ears National Monument.

00:31:02.926 --> 00:31:04.523
But for some reason,

00:31:05.890 --> 00:31:10.890
we have a small group supporting this obstructive objective.

00:31:11.970 --> 00:31:14.050
-: Go monument, that's what it means.

00:31:14.050 --> 00:31:16.260
Yay, go monument.

00:31:16.260 --> 00:31:18.421
Yay, go monument.

00:31:18.421 --> 00:31:20.450
Yay, go monument.

00:31:20.450 --> 00:31:22.370
Yeah, go monument.

00:31:22.370 --> 00:31:23.254
Yay, go monument.

00:31:23.254 --> 00:31:24.087
-: You know when I look at the political atmosphere

00:31:24.087 --> 00:31:25.130
of San Juan country right now,

00:31:25.130 --> 00:31:28.210
what I'm really seeing is a horrendous amount of fear,

00:31:28.210 --> 00:31:29.700
a fear of change.

00:31:29.700 --> 00:31:31.740
If the Native Americans are 52%

00:31:31.740 --> 00:31:34.380
of the population of San Juan county,

00:31:34.380 --> 00:31:36.923
they've always had a marginal say.

00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.410
I can see a lot of the problems

00:31:41.410 --> 00:31:43.530
that they faced on the reservation

00:31:43.530 --> 00:31:46.610
by not having full say in a lot of things

00:31:46.610 --> 00:31:47.783
can be corrected.

00:31:51.790 --> 00:31:55.740
-: This is an area where the Native Americans outnumber

00:31:55.740 --> 00:31:57.433
the white population.

00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:02.713
Yet very, very few elected officials are Native.

00:32:04.224 --> 00:32:09.224
-: You know, it's interesting when you look at the history,

00:32:09.660 --> 00:32:12.687
the legal challenges of San Juan county,

00:32:13.651 --> 00:32:16.810
racism has always been here.

00:32:16.810 --> 00:32:20.670
-: I didn't really know much about racial slurs.

00:32:20.670 --> 00:32:23.650
Especially because it was used so much.

00:32:23.650 --> 00:32:24.483
I grew up with it,

00:32:24.483 --> 00:32:26.430
I grew up thinking that that's who I was,

00:32:26.430 --> 00:32:31.430
a savage, or a redskin, or dirty skin.

00:32:33.150 --> 00:32:34.790
-: Sometimes it can be very difficult,

00:32:34.790 --> 00:32:36.960
because I just feel there are those

00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.240
that are ignorant to understanding our ways,

00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:42.400
understanding who we are.

00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.390
It would be great to have them come down here

00:32:44.390 --> 00:32:45.510
and say, look at this,

00:32:45.510 --> 00:32:47.660
this is where I live.

00:32:47.660 --> 00:32:49.310
Because me just going and telling them

00:32:49.310 --> 00:32:52.460
is just gonna go in one ear and out the other ear.

00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:08.920
-: Today, with Bears Ears,

00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:13.920
it kind of reinforced the thinking of non Native American.

00:33:17.690 --> 00:33:19.287
Especially the white people living

00:33:19.287 --> 00:33:22.293
in border towns, you know?

00:33:30.264 --> 00:33:34.050
-: I think there is an amount of racism that exists.

00:33:34.050 --> 00:33:39.050
There are Navajo people who do not like white people,

00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:43.594
and think that white people do not like Navajos.

00:33:43.594 --> 00:33:44.977
There are white people I think,

00:33:44.977 --> 00:33:47.240
that feel the same way about Navajos.

00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:49.740
I'm certainly not one of those people.

00:33:49.740 --> 00:33:51.290
I'm the first to recognize

00:33:51.290 --> 00:33:54.010
how difficult it has been for those people

00:33:54.010 --> 00:33:54.843
on the reservation.

00:33:54.843 --> 00:33:57.160
Many of 'em are educated people,

00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.240
they have gone away and got college degrees.

00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:03.610
But they want to live at home.

00:34:03.610 --> 00:34:05.640
Just like many of the people

00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.490
from Monitcello and Blanding.

00:34:07.490 --> 00:34:10.040
But there just hasn't been an economy

00:34:10.040 --> 00:34:13.270
to support those children to come back

00:34:13.270 --> 00:34:14.393
and make a living.

00:34:17.040 --> 00:34:18.940
In my opinion, the federal government

00:34:18.940 --> 00:34:20.880
has caused the problem.

00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.140
When you have all of the land tied up

00:34:23.140 --> 00:34:26.700
in trust lands, so that they really can't

00:34:26.700 --> 00:34:30.440
do the things that you can on private property.

00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.820
It creates a situation where it's a no win

00:34:33.820 --> 00:34:35.043
for the Navajo People.

00:34:42.710 --> 00:34:47.180
-: I've come to Utah to take a very historic action.

00:34:47.180 --> 00:34:49.850
To reverse federal overreach

00:34:49.850 --> 00:34:54.060
and restore the rights of this land

00:34:54.060 --> 00:34:55.693
to your citizens.

00:35:00.470 --> 00:35:02.200
-: Secretary Zinke said,

00:35:02.200 --> 00:35:05.270
you understand that this is a really difficult thing

00:35:05.270 --> 00:35:07.033
for the president to do

00:35:07.033 --> 00:35:11.380
because he's not doing it to be political.

00:35:11.380 --> 00:35:14.840
There's 15,000 voters in San Juan county.

00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.370
15,000 voters don't make the difference

00:35:17.370 --> 00:35:20.003
in a national presidential election.

00:35:21.075 --> 00:35:23.825
(crowd chanting)

00:35:27.992 --> 00:35:30.742
(Native singing)

00:35:32.560 --> 00:35:35.040
-: All of politics ends up being adults fighting

00:35:35.040 --> 00:35:36.350
over adult systems.

00:35:36.350 --> 00:35:38.460
When we appropriate dollars and people control

00:35:38.460 --> 00:35:41.380
how dollars are spent, any time you interrupt that,

00:35:41.380 --> 00:35:43.270
you create upheaval.

00:35:43.270 --> 00:35:45.440
The best public policy we're gonna come to,

00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.117
understanding everybody's gonna have their cake,

00:35:48.117 --> 00:35:49.108
and their turf,

00:35:49.108 --> 00:35:51.160
is to be committed

00:35:51.160 --> 00:35:54.470
to letting good information drive good decisions.

00:35:54.470 --> 00:35:56.540
I love stickin' up for the little guy.

00:35:56.540 --> 00:35:59.980
And I'm of the opinion, after 15 years

00:35:59.980 --> 00:36:01.720
of public service, if I can sit in front

00:36:01.720 --> 00:36:04.390
of someone, I can find the overlap,

00:36:04.390 --> 00:36:06.620
and I can find the areas of agreement,

00:36:06.620 --> 00:36:10.981
and I don't think in the Bears Ears monument process,

00:36:10.981 --> 00:36:13.283
we've been given that opportunity.

00:36:15.670 --> 00:36:17.930
All this was here before we were.

00:36:17.930 --> 00:36:19.790
And man, we're little ants,

00:36:19.790 --> 00:36:21.360
and you can call it anything you want,

00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.020
call it Disney Land if you want,

00:36:23.020 --> 00:36:27.240
it's gonna be here when we're long, long gone.

00:36:27.240 --> 00:36:29.150
I think it would be incredibly arrogant

00:36:29.150 --> 00:36:30.280
to think that man is going

00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:32.220
to completely change the landscape

00:36:32.220 --> 00:36:35.050
of the one hour tour on that helicopter I made.

00:36:35.050 --> 00:36:37.870
It is beautiful, it is pristine,

00:36:37.870 --> 00:36:41.070
particularly in some areas, but it is massive.

00:36:41.070 --> 00:36:44.400
And not you, or me, or Dr. Evil

00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.980
if he wanted to pave the world could get a fraction

00:36:47.980 --> 00:36:50.482
of the way through before he'd die of old age,

00:36:50.482 --> 00:36:53.200
and change that area, it's so big.

00:36:53.200 --> 00:36:55.456
-: There's an interest in the environmental community

00:36:55.456 --> 00:36:57.510
to lock these lands up.

00:36:57.510 --> 00:36:58.720
That's my feeling on it,

00:36:58.720 --> 00:37:01.416
and I think there are very, very powerful people behind it.

00:37:01.416 --> 00:37:03.280
We used to manage the forests,

00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:05.360
we used to go in and thin trees and cut timber.

00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:09.040
They've shut down the mills, 500 people lost their jobs.

00:37:09.040 --> 00:37:11.000
It's what's happening the west,

00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:15.430
as far as allowing an extreme environmental element

00:37:15.430 --> 00:37:18.673
to take over the management of our public lands.

00:37:22.240 --> 00:37:27.240
-: I follow me heart, and it's not being influenced

00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:32.584
by outside people, or environmentalists.

00:37:32.584 --> 00:37:36.550
This is the idea of the tribes.

00:37:36.550 --> 00:37:40.423
It's not coming from nowhere else at all.

00:37:41.890 --> 00:37:46.890
So, Mike Noel is just making false claims

00:37:47.002 --> 00:37:51.860
against a vast majority of Native Americans,

00:37:51.860 --> 00:37:55.573
because they have the corporate interests.

00:37:56.490 --> 00:38:00.562
-: We have been here for the last 50 years

00:38:00.562 --> 00:38:02.600
helping manage this land.

00:38:02.600 --> 00:38:04.453
We're an extractive county.

00:38:05.570 --> 00:38:07.590
You don't see drill rigs all over the place,

00:38:07.590 --> 00:38:10.190
you don't see plunder all over the place,

00:38:10.190 --> 00:38:15.080
misuse of the land, because we respect the land.

00:38:15.080 --> 00:38:18.730
The minerals in the county exist in Hatch Point,

00:38:18.730 --> 00:38:20.580
which is North of Monticello.

00:38:20.580 --> 00:38:24.040
It doesn't exist out in the Bears Ears,

00:38:24.040 --> 00:38:26.990
and time and time again I see things on TV

00:38:26.990 --> 00:38:30.190
about the oil and gas industry wanting to come in

00:38:30.190 --> 00:38:34.480
and drill and mine and stuff in the Bears Ears.

00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.190
There's no minerals there.

00:38:36.190 --> 00:38:37.690
-: A closer examination of the

00:38:37.690 --> 00:38:40.000
so called conservation provisions

00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:42.490
demonstrates a clear pattern of loopholes,

00:38:42.490 --> 00:38:45.150
rollback protections, and an undermining

00:38:45.150 --> 00:38:47.530
of federal land management authority.

00:38:47.530 --> 00:38:50.540
It could be said that this is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

00:38:50.540 --> 00:38:55.110
-: When the citizen of two communities were prosperous,

00:38:55.110 --> 00:38:57.660
it was during those mining times.

00:38:57.660 --> 00:39:02.660
And so, I think, thinking that it would be a possibility

00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:07.810
that is slowly being erased by a monument,

00:39:07.810 --> 00:39:09.170
is frightening to them.

00:39:09.170 --> 00:39:14.170
-: Right now, the last surviving Uranium milling operation

00:39:14.490 --> 00:39:16.130
is in Blanding, Utah.

00:39:16.130 --> 00:39:18.220
That's a huge deal, because

00:39:18.220 --> 00:39:20.225
of the need for nuclear power,

00:39:20.225 --> 00:39:23.463
and there's even a need for the milling

00:39:23.463 --> 00:39:27.170
of the waste materials on the reservation,

00:39:27.170 --> 00:39:30.240
to be able to come in, let the Native Americans

00:39:30.240 --> 00:39:33.340
take the jobs, which they would want the jobs.

00:39:33.340 --> 00:39:35.730
Make this Uranium that's sitting out there,

00:39:35.730 --> 00:39:38.050
this waste Uranium that's still radioactive,

00:39:38.050 --> 00:39:40.420
mill it, and make it usable for Uranium.

00:39:40.420 --> 00:39:41.895
There's like $3 billion that would go

00:39:41.895 --> 00:39:42.740
to the tribes.

00:39:42.740 --> 00:39:45.440
So there's some benefits by keeping that.

00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:49.220
-: Some people are okay with a nuclear power plant,

00:39:49.220 --> 00:39:50.360
some people are not.

00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:53.800
I just happen to be one that is okay with it.

00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:56.170
-: Oh, we're gonna find all our Uranium, are we?

00:39:56.170 --> 00:39:58.020
-: It's out there some place.

00:39:58.020 --> 00:39:59.480
Mountains full of it.

00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:01.550
All we gotta do is find the right one.

00:40:01.550 --> 00:40:05.020
-: Back in the 50s and the 60s, there was a rush

00:40:05.020 --> 00:40:07.630
to find uranium all over the county.

00:40:07.630 --> 00:40:10.210
There was a mill in Monticello

00:40:10.210 --> 00:40:12.840
that produced uranium and vanadium.

00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.200
It was a government-owned mill.

00:40:15.200 --> 00:40:20.030
The mill was emitting particulate matter

00:40:20.030 --> 00:40:21.910
out of the stack,

00:40:21.910 --> 00:40:25.260
which the prevailing winds would blow

00:40:25.260 --> 00:40:27.803
over the entire community of Monticello.

00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:32.830
There's been documented cancer cases,

00:40:32.830 --> 00:40:36.670
and deaths of nearly 800 people.

00:40:36.670 --> 00:40:38.780
So yeah, there was a lot to be learned

00:40:38.780 --> 00:40:40.963
from what happened in that mill.

00:40:44.260 --> 00:40:47.200
I think the mill at White Mesa

00:40:47.200 --> 00:40:49.183
is a much different mill

00:40:49.183 --> 00:40:51.290
than what we had in Monticello.

00:40:51.290 --> 00:40:52.760
They don't have big stacks

00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.813
that they emit any kind of particulate matter.

00:40:57.630 --> 00:41:00.440
They capture all of that particulate matter

00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.120
in the milling process,

00:41:02.120 --> 00:41:05.020
nothing is released into the atmosphere,

00:41:05.020 --> 00:41:07.600
and the people that live south of the mill,

00:41:07.600 --> 00:41:10.040
they'd like to close the mill,

00:41:10.040 --> 00:41:13.440
and they say it's contaminating their ground water,

00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.950
it's contaminating their community.

00:41:15.950 --> 00:41:19.440
But they've monitored that for 20 years,

00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:23.553
and never found anything that substantiates those claims.

00:41:41.908 --> 00:41:45.610
-: We tried to come here a couple times a year

00:41:45.610 --> 00:41:48.350
to track conditions, since it's in close proximity

00:41:48.350 --> 00:41:49.350
to the mill.

00:41:49.350 --> 00:41:54.350
We analyze the water for a host of trace metal constituents

00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:56.570
that are abundant in the tailing cells

00:41:56.570 --> 00:41:59.003
for radioactive elements.

00:42:00.600 --> 00:42:01.690
We're really concerned

00:42:01.690 --> 00:42:04.450
about the nearby White Mesa uranium mill,

00:42:04.450 --> 00:42:06.350
and the potential influence

00:42:06.350 --> 00:42:09.290
on both the shallow groundwater system,

00:42:09.290 --> 00:42:11.160
where the spring emanates from,

00:42:11.160 --> 00:42:13.840
as well as the deeper aquifer,

00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.820
which supplies two community supply wells

00:42:16.820 --> 00:42:17.940
and their sole source

00:42:17.940 --> 00:42:20.813
of municipal domestic water are sourced from.

00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:25.710
-: The White Mesa mill is no longer important

00:42:25.710 --> 00:42:28.880
for mining uranium in the Colorado plateau.

00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.000
That era ended in the 1950s.

00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:32.540
Where the White Mesa uranium mill

00:42:32.540 --> 00:42:33.570
has become a player

00:42:33.570 --> 00:42:38.010
is as a low cost radioactive waste disposal sites.

00:42:38.010 --> 00:42:40.403
So, Canada and New Jersey,

00:42:42.210 --> 00:42:44.870
all kinds of government radioactive waste sites,

00:42:44.870 --> 00:42:47.140
industrial radioactive waste sites,

00:42:47.140 --> 00:42:50.323
are looking for a place for their waste to go.

00:42:52.470 --> 00:42:56.670
-: After the ore and feed materials are ground up

00:42:56.670 --> 00:42:59.660
and run through the solvent extraction circuit

00:42:59.660 --> 00:43:01.440
to extract uranium and vanadium,

00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:04.510
there's a lot of by product material left over.

00:43:04.510 --> 00:43:07.730
This material is highly radioactive.

00:43:07.730 --> 00:43:08.890
There is a history

00:43:08.890 --> 00:43:13.103
of uranium milling contamination in the area.

00:43:14.700 --> 00:43:17.760
This is the closest monitoring well

00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.220
to the tribe's property.

00:43:20.220 --> 00:43:22.580
And, we're really concerned with what we're seeing

00:43:22.580 --> 00:43:26.360
in the groundwater right at this location underneath us.

00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:30.513
The PH has become extremely acidic in recent years.

00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:34.790
What could come next, is increasing radioactivity,

00:43:34.790 --> 00:43:37.910
which would be impossible to clean up,

00:43:37.910 --> 00:43:40.023
to remediate out of the water.

00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:44.528
-: It's just not the land, it's what's under the land.

00:43:44.528 --> 00:43:46.760
And that gives us life.

00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:51.400
If the streams were to become contaminated,

00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:56.113
it would probably mean we would have to move.

00:43:57.750 --> 00:44:00.600
People at the state and government level

00:44:00.600 --> 00:44:01.900
really need to really look at this

00:44:01.900 --> 00:44:06.900
and really feel what it feels like to be impacted.

00:44:07.578 --> 00:44:11.328
(gentle music)

00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.820
-: This community, we've been devastated

00:44:23.820 --> 00:44:27.170
by past uranium mines.

00:44:27.170 --> 00:44:29.970
We don't want that here no more.

00:44:29.970 --> 00:44:34.583
Once the land is disturbed, there's no way to fix it.

00:44:36.230 --> 00:44:37.440
And who's gonna fix it?

00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.290
These companies are not gonna fix it.

00:44:50.236 --> 00:44:52.960
-: What is the future of the Bears Ears?

00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:55.550
It used to be, you would never see people

00:44:55.550 --> 00:44:56.383
at the Bears Ears.

00:44:56.383 --> 00:45:00.870
Is it going to be a camping site for multitudes of people,

00:45:00.870 --> 00:45:03.710
and so maybe that spiritual connection

00:45:03.710 --> 00:45:06.420
will not be as available?

00:45:06.420 --> 00:45:09.003
And so there is a protection in place.

00:45:11.420 --> 00:45:14.400
When I first arrived, it was a dark road,

00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:16.480
I saw very few people.

00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.420
As the park was established and the road was paved

00:45:20.420 --> 00:45:22.210
in this beautiful canyon.

00:45:22.210 --> 00:45:24.400
There's two parking lots within five miles

00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:26.480
of each other and they're planning another one.

00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:29.050
And so to me,

00:45:29.050 --> 00:45:33.620
it's this slow turning nature

00:45:33.620 --> 00:45:37.960
and the beauty of nature into either a parking lot,

00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.623
or some big vault toilet.

00:45:51.710 --> 00:45:56.240
It's very funny to think that

00:45:56.240 --> 00:46:01.240
what has been here for centuries could be destroyed

00:46:02.060 --> 00:46:05.553
through all of us loving and wanting to see it.

00:46:08.637 --> 00:46:11.580
Well the Bears Ears is definitely awakened.

00:46:12.950 --> 00:46:16.760
I would say people not only in Utah,

00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:19.330
but throughout this country.

00:46:19.330 --> 00:46:24.110
And it's awakened them to how precious our landscapes are

00:46:25.060 --> 00:46:29.700
and how spiritually connected

00:46:29.700 --> 00:46:32.217
the Native Americas to their landscape.

00:46:32.217 --> 00:46:34.940
(playing flute)

00:46:34.940 --> 00:46:36.760
And I think there's a hunger

00:46:38.010 --> 00:46:42.737
for the general population to feel that.

00:46:42.737 --> 00:46:46.636
(Native instrument rattling)

00:46:46.636 --> 00:46:49.636
(crickets chirping)

00:47:23.168 --> 00:47:26.751
(gentle music)

00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.960
-: I have grandchildren who are being raised very close

00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:43.003
to this area.

00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:45.633
It is their back yard.

00:47:46.490 --> 00:47:48.800
They get to see the beauty everyday.

00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:50.300
That is so powerful,

00:47:50.300 --> 00:47:52.790
because there's so many things

00:47:52.790 --> 00:47:56.423
that one draws from there, which is identity.

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It represents many people's past.

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And so, we decided to help organize everyone

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that would come from each of the perspective communities

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before we continued on down the road

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for pursuing the designation.

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We needed to come from the place of healing.

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And through the active healing,

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the ancient active running.

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Because we had our feet before we had horses,

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or anything else.

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We communicated by walking and running.

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I really wish that the community there in Blanding

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really, really looks at the history

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of our native people there that resided there.

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Change for them is irrelevant.

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They don't want change.

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We've had change for centuries.

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We've had our homes taken away from us.

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We were cattled into what we call reservations.

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I don't think Blanding community would ever fathom that,

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because they were never taken.

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I mean right to this day, they still claim

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they were the first to be there.

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So Bears Ears is very important for me, and my people.

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'Cause we know what it meant for us

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to be there and to live there, and to seek refuge there.

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-: This whole issue has divided our county.

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It's divided families, it's divided neighbors,

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it's divided friends.

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I want the Native American people

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to know how much I love 'em.

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How much I want them to exist in this county.

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To remain part of this country.

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To be part of the decision making in this county.

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They are my friends.

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they're my neighbors.

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I wanna help them get the services that they need.

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We need to sit down and talk about things

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rather than just try to influence legislators.

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We need local input into decisions

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on public land in this county.

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I would regret if in these interviews that you're doing

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if people were to watch that

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and see such strident positions

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that people are left with thinking

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that there is no middle ground.

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That we really can't find consensus,

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'cause I actually believe we can.

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I really do.

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But what it takes is,

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everybody coming through the front door,

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really expressing what those concerns are,

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what those goals are,

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and not letting perfect be the enemy of good.

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If you can get in that environment,

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I think you can get some smart policy.

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-: I mean, I don't see any of our leaders for you to hear,

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here in Monument Valley.

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I don't ever see any of them coming down here to ask.

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It's kind of just like,

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this is what I'm gonna do,

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you're gonna do it.

00:51:19.617 --> 00:51:22.172
(birds chirping)

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-: We have two county commissioners

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representing this Ojito chapter.

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That's Bruce Adams, and Rebecca Benali.

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And they stopped coming to our meetings,

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to this very room.

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We put them on the agenda for over three years.

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Listen to us.

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Listen to our values,

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listen to our interests, listen to our beliefs, listen.

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When you do, you will find out why we fight

00:52:00.130 --> 00:52:02.233
for this monument.

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You will learn and understand our purpose.

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-: This land map, the hidden part of it,

00:52:21.810 --> 00:52:23.093
that's the main thing.

00:52:26.410 --> 00:52:29.023
If you as a Native,

00:52:29.023 --> 00:52:32.920
if you put an offer in here, for Mother Earth, say,

00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:34.420
don't be afraid to touch Mother Earth,

00:52:34.420 --> 00:52:35.750
they say that, you know.

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Pick that up and talk to Mother Earth.

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And even just between us,

00:52:41.930 --> 00:52:43.923
different nationalities,

00:52:44.770 --> 00:52:47.163
just coming to an understanding.

00:52:48.300 --> 00:52:51.580
There's a healing going on right now.

00:52:51.580 --> 00:52:54.680
You make other people understand,

00:52:54.680 --> 00:52:57.350
there'll be healin' right there,

00:52:57.350 --> 00:52:59.303
there'll be hope up ahead.

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They say love thy neighbor in their Bible.

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We're their neighbors.

00:53:16.457 --> 00:53:19.207
(Native singing)

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-: When you go through certain moments in your life

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that are very pivotal, you wanna take those moments

00:54:04.900 --> 00:54:08.240
and just back off from what you're doing and sit still.

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I always say sometimes people get scared,

00:54:10.560 --> 00:54:12.180
especially those that are used

00:54:12.180 --> 00:54:14.283
to being in real active environments.

00:54:15.140 --> 00:54:18.860
You get scared when you start to hear your own heartbeat.

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You have to confront that fear

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before you can actually

00:54:22.300 --> 00:54:25.690
take that nice slow cleansing breath,

00:54:25.690 --> 00:54:29.710
and learn to be quiet.

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In my language, we say (speaking in foreign language),

00:54:31.830 --> 00:54:32.733
sit still.

00:54:37.261 --> 00:54:40.761
(birds chirping)

00:54:57.730 --> 00:55:00.480
(Native singing)

00:56:20.216 --> 00:56:22.812
(Native drumming)

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(Native chanting and singing)