The Pretendians
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In Canada a number of public figures have made the front pages for one reason: each has been alleged to be a "Pretend Indian". In other words, someone who claims distant indigenous identity but upon deeper scrutiny has been accused of stealing jobs and opportunities from real natives.
But why would someone fake an indigenous identity?
That question is the premise of The Pretendians, as we cross Canada revealing what really lies behind this explosive issue. We go on the hunt for knock-off west coast indigenous art, witness an explosion of dubious Status Indian Claims to get cheap fuel, and unpack where the claims of blood-quantum come from (that idea that one drop of Indian blood is enough to claim indigeneity). We meet people truly seeking, and asking, if they are indigenous - or not - and meets a university teacher fighting Pretendian persecution
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Main credits
Taylor, Drew Hayden (film director)
Taylor, Drew Hayden (narrator)
Taylor, Drew Hayden (screenwriter)
Kemp, Paul (film director)
Kemp, Paul (film producer)
Kemp, Paul (screenwriter)
Baltrusaitis, Jonathan (screenwriter)
Other credits
Cinematography, Sara Cornthwaite, Tim Hutchison, AJ Leitch; editor, Jonathan Baltrusaitis; music, Oliver Tiley, Joaquin Rico.
Distributor subjects
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Alright everybody.
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You ready for this? I'm Drew
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Hayden Taylor an anishinaabe author and
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playwright from Curve Lake first nation in my
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travels. I've seen the good side and the
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bad side of being indigenous.
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But here's the weird thing when I
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was a kid, some of my people tried to hide their indigenous
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past and in some cases being a
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white passing native guy was a blessing back then but
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things have changed now a veritable
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Cornucopia of people want to be indigenous.
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Media reports are full of them from celebrated novelists.
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I have always said very clearly and
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carefully a small part of me is indigenous, but it's
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a big part of who I am to acclaimed film directors filmmaker
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Michelle Latimer. She came under Fire after questions arose
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about her claimed indigenous Heritage and even
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a University of Saskatchewan indigenous health
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expert was fired for being a pretend Indian.
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You know that old settler term Indian giver. My
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name is Morning Star bear.
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I'm just gonna say I'm emotional. Well
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today we have Indian takers.
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So from identity theft to counterfeit art.
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This is the indigenous Chucky and from stolen
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Indian tax benefits.
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They sold thousands and thousands of these cards
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to last jobs meant for real natives in
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this way. They are literally erasing Us by replacing us.
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Why are there so many fake Indians
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these days. Is it all about money and
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jobs or is there something deeper going
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on?
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I need to understand the pretendions.
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So why do so
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many non-native people want to join our powwow
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by claiming indigenous identity?
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Now this is one of those DNA kits that seem to be
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so popular lately supposedly it will
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tell you all the Dirty Deeds your ancestors were up to
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and for those seeking some sort of cultural salvation within
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their 23 sets of chromosomes. This could
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give them the answer. And since I'm a little curious as
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to my own indigenous percentage. I'm gonna
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take this spit into the tube and mail
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it off.
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And see where it takes me you might
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want to look away for this.
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Well, if I'm going to be exploring the pretendian
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phenomenon, I guess I better start by
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establishing my own indigenous cred.
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Welcome to Curve Lake. This is
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my community. I've lived here for almost 60 years. This is
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the land of my people a whole and yet people still
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say to me funny. You don't look Indian. You're not native. Are you?
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Well, I am this is the community where I come from
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and I want to take you on a tour of it. So you can understand who I
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am and where my perspectives were born.
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This house is where I grew up till I was seven years old.
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Though it's been repurposed and renovated. This
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is where I went to school the Mud
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Lake Indian day school. So I learned my bacs and
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this is where I get my res
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gas.
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And behind me is the fairgrounds where we
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put the wow in our pal IE our
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power and this
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puts the curve in Curve Lake actually, technically
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it doesn't this is Shamong like there is no curve like
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it's called Curve Lake because the lake curves around never mind.
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This is my house and it's a very very fine
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house and within those four walls. I write
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my stories about the First Nation communities of
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this area.
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I'm Drew Hayden Taylor and I'm straight out of Curve Lake.
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So what's real or fake in the Indigenous world before?
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I dig into what that means in terms of identity. I've
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journeyed to the tourist hotspot of
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gas town in the west coast city of Vancouver to investigate
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the indigenous art scene.
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Every year tourists spent over a billion
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dollars on indigenous themed art and souvenirs.
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but
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ours artists actually benefiting
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meet Francesca Fiona an investigative journalist
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with discourse magazine
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She looked into Vancouver's lucrative art and souvenir
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shops and made a worrisome discovery.
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We did an audit about three years ago. We visited
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40 different shops. And what we found is that 75% of
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the shops seem to be selling inauthentic art.
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So we're gonna visit some of the tourist
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shops in Gastown here and check out some of
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the souvenirs that are being sold and do they know you're the
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the reality please.
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And I don't think so. No, you're Incognito. Yeah,
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we're gonna do some mystery shopping. All right. Well, let's go take a
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look at what we can find sounds good. We'll need hidden camera
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technology for this Mystery Shop.
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I'm in a buying mood. So many
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indigenous themed items so many stores so little
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time.
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very catchy
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Oh, yeah. Oh look
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at these. Yeah, this label is really
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interesting too here. This is
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this is the indigenous Chucky.
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Well, I think I know what I'm getting my partner for her birthday. Yeah.
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All right. I have a test for you. Okay. I want to see if
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you can judge a couple of items I have
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for their authenticity here.
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Let's start with this that looks
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real to me.
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So I'm more of an experiment asking questions. And so
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the first question that I would have here is if there's any information at
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all about an artist because there are some
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indigenous artists that will sell their designs and it can be
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mass produced and they'll get royalties in this case. Yeah, there's
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there's no information. This company was actually
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one that we tried to contact multiple times. They didn't
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respond. So this was categorized as inauthentic. Ah,
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even though it says
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Vancouver on the front even though yeah.
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inauthentic next on
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our list
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Oh, I think Barbie has let herself go.
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What can you tell me about this? Well, so first
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thing I'm looking for is the label and
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they have some information. There's some kind of smallish
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print here that actually says that this is
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not authentic and that's because in
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the United States, they actually have a law against selling fraudulent
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indigenous art. And so that being
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said, this is definitely not an authentic
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piece of you're telling me this isn't a
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real indigenous product.
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That's right. So what
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makes an authentic indigenous item indigenous design?
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whether it's a unique carving or a mass-produced souvenir if
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there's an indigenous artist behind it, then it's
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authentic even the Museum of
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Vancouver which has over 70,000 indigenous
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items now displays mass-produced native
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art in collaboration with authentic artists curator
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Sharon Fortney shows me past examples
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of fakes and some of the new pieces
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they've acquired
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This stuff you've shown me has been appropriated by
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the dominant culture to make money for themselves.
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These other objects have been made
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with the cooperation of indigenous artists who have designed
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them licensed their image out in sort of cooperation, right
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see that they have his name on the label. They identify
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what communities he's from. It's just, you know,
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a really beautiful colorful contemporary expression
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of identity. Yeah.
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So what tips does Francesca have for the Shopper who wants to
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buy something authentic and meaningful to take home?
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One of the things that I heard from artists was that labels can
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make a really big difference. Is there information on a
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product that tells somebody who the artist is where they're
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from and whether or not they're getting royalties. And so if you
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are out there looking to buy something do a little
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research and make sure that you are buying something authentic authenticity matters,
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especially when it comes to that most iconic of
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West Coast indigenous symbols the totem
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pole.
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Totem pole forgeries can be found all over Canada, but
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here in British Columbia their sacred
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objects symbols of kinship Clan culture and
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storytelling history. So how
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much is at stake when that gets faked?
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I'm here in Chilliwack to explore that idea. I'm going to be talking
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to a traditional Nishka Carver who has some
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very strong ideas about who can and can't carve
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a totem pole and why?
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My name is Mike dansley. My traditional name
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has got some else. My clincit name is teeth clean. I'm an
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artist and Carver and you're here in my studio in Chilliwack British
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Columbia. Would you primarily known for like totem poles in math? I just
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finished my 27th totem pole and I'm starting two more.
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Mike's totem poles aren't just pretty to look
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at they anchor deep cultural meaning in
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the places they inhabit but there are a lot of other totem
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poles out there that might not have the same kind
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of heritage.
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Now in today's society. There are people out there
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who shall we say practice what you practice but
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you might argue that they don't respect what they're
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doing. So for from when I started doing the art,
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I spent a year learning how to draw I spent
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a year sweeping the floor sharpening the knives but I
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also spent all that time with my grandfather since I was very
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young learning our adowa our oral history. Are you
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our laws?
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Those laws apply to the whole create a process even
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before Mike picks out a piece of wood.
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We have to know that a dollar we have to know the history
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before we can go and do just anything say
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I don't know. What Clan you are Otter
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Otter. Okay. So for me to do a piece for you, I would
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have to understand that thoroughly. I would have to study otter
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Clan to do artwork for you. I'd have to ask you a
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bunch of questions. It's just like writing you can't just tell a
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story without knowing your subject matter, right? So there's a lot of artists that
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unfortunately haven't received that education
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and they're creating art that they
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have no business doing
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brings to mind a totem pole. That's just a short
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drive from my Reserve at a park in Peterborough, Ontario. It
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was carved by an anishinaabe artist.
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I myself ammunitionabe. And unless
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I missed something in anishinaabe class. We don't
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have a totem pole tradition.
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So is this native on Native cultural
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appropriation? The totem pole
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was skillfully handcrafted by a local artist of Hiawatha
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First Nation it was designed with care.
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What would Mike think of this well-intentioned imitation?
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I think people who aren't.
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trained in that way
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Who aren't West Coast?
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No matter how much they want to honor it and how
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much they love it.
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Still doesn't give them those rights in that privilege. Okay lesson
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learned, but will things
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be as clear cut when we stop exploring fake native art
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and move on to fake indigenous identity.
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Hell no skin color isn't a good indicator when looking
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into fake indigenous identity claims. So what
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about blood Quantum or the amount of native blood coursing
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through one's veins how much is enough
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in Orca answer
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this conundrum. I propose an experiment using both red wine
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and white wine.
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So for obvious metaphoric and symbolic reasoning this
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glass of wine will represent my people and
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this represents.
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white people
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now pay attention. There may be some math involved.
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I'm going to take a couple drops of this red blood.
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And deposit them into one to two thousand drops
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of white blood.
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Now those couple drops in there, are they enough to
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qualify you as indigenous?
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To me the math is simple. No.
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But for some people it seems that's
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a subjective question. Like how many drops of
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rain does it take to get me wet when I arrive at the University of
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Montreal?
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This is grown zero for an explosion of indigenous ancestry
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claims in Eastern Canada. Why Lisa
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Dylan is a historic demographer and
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she may have the answer.
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And I was told this University as one of
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the best archives compiled for such a
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thing. Is that true? Yes, we have the logistical apoplacion.
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Gibeca, which is a database a
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couple of million individuals who
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lived in the Quebec Colony since 1621 the
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Catholic Church produced a
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very comprehensive set of baptismal marriage
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and burial records. We have first and
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last name of the parents and the child and dates and
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places. So it's possible to reconstruct a
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comprehensive genealogy. There are a
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lot of people who are claiming indigenous Heritage based on
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A lone ancestor sometime
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in the 16 or 17 hundreds you
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come across that frequently. Well most.
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frenchmanians
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do that when you look at all of their ancestors, the
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weight of that ancestor is a very small percentage
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of their genetic makeup. Just a drop in
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a bucket It's a larger bucket it is it is I'm having
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trouble picturing what that bucket looks like, but fortunately
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Lisa has a really effective visual
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aid. This is a really
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good visualization of 10 Generations. So we're
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talking this would cover about 300 350
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years. Yes. So we start at the core and
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these are the parents and then each concentric Circle that
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moves outwards is another generation of ancestors.
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How many would you say are here represented here?
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Like are we talking to 300 people a few
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a few thousand a few thousand people and if
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one person happens to be that native person
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in the 16 1700, that would be
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one name out of several thousand ancestors. Yes, the proverbial
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needle in Haystack exactly that be
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a needle in a haystack.
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Do you think you might have an indigenous needle in that Haystack?
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It's not as hard to find out as you'd think.
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Now all of the microfilms have been transferred to a
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digital image, which is available on our genealogical
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website. And anyone in the world can consult them.
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They're available online.
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Since the early 2000s tens of thousands
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of people from Quebec and The Maritime Provinces have scoured
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these archives in an attempt
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to claim indigeneity. There has been a reported
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explosion of people calling themselves Eastern
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métis.
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In Quebec. The increase has been from about 15,000 people
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who identifying as métis to about 70,000 if
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we look at Nova Scotia. The increase has gone
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from 830 and 1996 to 23,315.
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For the record Being métis doesn't just mean
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having mixed blood and the leadership of
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the real May Teen Nation of Manitoba is up
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in arms about it. You can't just pop up tomorrow and
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see your maintain. That's what's been happening Eastern Canada starting to happen
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Ontario. We are facing Invasion a main
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tea person actually has to be connected to a
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historic Mayte community that has continued
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into present day and there is by
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all research and historical accounts never been
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made tea communities in The Maritime Provinces
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in migma territory ever and that's
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pretty conclusive.
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The fact is thousands of
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these new claims point back here to these archives and
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a handful of families who lived in the mid 1600s.
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So we have been investigating the stories of the Eastern mate
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tea who are claiming.
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Certain indigenous rights based on having substantial
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indigenous Heritage and you're saying that's mathematically unlikely.
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It's mathematically impossible to say
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Indigenous Heritage if your heritage is from this
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French Canadian Catholic population there ancestral
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heritage may have a small
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1% 2% representation of
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indigenous peoples, but they are trying
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to leverage that that representation that
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small percentage to ask for
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benefits today and that's
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a big leap.
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So why has there been such an explosion of
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new status claims? That's a hotly contested
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question. But after my research, I've
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come up with several reasons first the
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Supreme Court of Canada's 1999 Marshall
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decision granted expanded fishing
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and hunting rights to natives.
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If you're white wouldn't you want those rights?
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Second white settler guilt as more Canadians
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question how their ancestors have treated native people
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and their land claims more folks are seeking to
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be on the indigenous side and third benefits
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to deal with historic injustices tax
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education and job subsidies have
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been granted to Native people to try and even the playing
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field. One of my favorites is cheap res
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gas when you flash your status card at
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the pump.
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Perhaps unsurprisingly that particular perk has
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led to fake status cards.
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And they're probably isn't another person in Canada who has
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seen more of them than this man. My name is
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Rick obsoen. I'm the chief of the Abenaki nation of odonac.
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Welcome to Rick's organic gas station and that
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innocent looking counter over there can be the
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front lines in the battle between authentic and inauthentic status
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cards.
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So what she's doing there? She's verifying the card that it's
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a real card.
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These cards became a very very big problem their self-proclaiming
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that they're native that they have native ancestry
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and here's my card to prove it and who
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creates these cars whether they where can I get one? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you can
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buy them you can there was a group called the native Alliance
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and this could cost you about 350 dollars. They sold thousands
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and thousands of these cards of people
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who spent 350 dollars on these
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cards where parently miffed when they were told they still
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had to pay gas tax.
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Rick had to develop a clear-cut system to turn
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them down without getting into a big argument every
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time.
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So the way this works is if someone comes with a card
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that's not a real card. What we had to do what she has to
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do. Is she turns and says to them. These are the cards we accept we do
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not accept any other card.
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There was a real time period where it was happening almost every second
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day.
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The more and more that we've been putting these type of
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systems in place. We see it less and less today. So why
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don't reservation gas station owners, just
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let it slide once in a while. Nobody likes
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paying tax at the pumps after all. Well, it's never
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a victim that's crime.
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This is trying to do right thing, you know a native comes in. They got a card.
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Okay. I'm supposed to give them tax exempt, you know, so they're trying
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to do the right thing.
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The problem comes in is that the obligation is on the business?
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So if these cards are fake the business can in turn be charged
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attacks and you'll never find this customer chase them down
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Rick owns an operates five businesses and
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as chief he tries to educate business
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owners because the stakes get a lot
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bigger than a tank of gas. Think about the taxi spin
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when you buy say a shiny
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new truck the law states that if anything
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is delivered to the reservation, it's tax exempt.
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Union actors clear at that. So these guys go to
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a car lot they buy a car and they said can you deliver it to the closest Reserve so
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they come here they parked in front of my building here. They take a picture of their
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car in front of my sign and they sign off they don't have to pay tax.
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But meanwhile their card wasn't real.
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So we've had to do is we've had to educate a lot of the car lots. God is
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from here to sherbrook telling them what a real card
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was and if they were going to deliver a vehicle or snowmobile or
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anything to my community. They need to contact us first.
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We have caught.
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Oh god, I've got to say over a hundred people with
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fake years right here. Okay, and I'll
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tell the dealership. It's a fake card get off my property or or
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I'm gonna call the police.
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Rick ever the businessman has taken a
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hard-nosed stance on Indian status and who can
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benefit from it. But what happens when
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we choose to adopt a settler into one of our communities.
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Should they benefit too even that
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can be complicated?
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Prior to 1985 any white woman
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that married an indigenous man was legally granted status
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that status remained even
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after divorce or death of the husband.
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Back home and Curve Lake my journalist friend. Angela
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Lavallee wants to break Bannock over this issue.
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Angela has strong opinions about what marrying into
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a First Nation should entitle you to in my
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mind if there was a marriage breakdown the
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woman should
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relinquish her status because she is not
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Indian. You can't tell there's just like this it drives me
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insane. It's like you're married when you if you married a German
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woman tomorrow, would you be Germany? No, I would not be so if you
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married somebody from Mexico, would you be Mexican I would
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not be would you go around saying I'm a Mexican. No, would you
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cook Mexican I might
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so if you cook Mexican, would that make you a Mexican? No, it
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would not.
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For Angela when people marry into a First Nation,
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they should not receive the financial benefits of
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being a status Indian like the 2018 Williams
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treaty payout which was awarded to my people
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for the land. We lost when the Trent Severn Waterway was
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created.
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Their ancestors did not go through the horrific
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times of the when the
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Williams treaty was being you know, negotiated you're
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saying they're like just passengers in the car. They are
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visitors visitors wives husbands. Yes
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part of the community. Yes, but not
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a missionabe. I believe that the Williams treaty
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money should have went to Williams treaty people and that's it.
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There has to be a line somewhere, right? Yes lines
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need to be drawn. But unfortunately
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for too many years they've been
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erased even at one of
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Canada's most prestigious universities.
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Thank you, when it
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comes to pretend Indians, the problem
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doesn't stop at the Canadian border pretendians
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are a huge problem in the
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US and this North Carolina Cherokee Woman
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has had enough of it. My name is Liana Constantino,
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and I am the director of Taft the
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tribal Alliance.
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we
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call it fraud because that's what it is. It is actually theft and
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fraud identity theft and fraud. So
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when people steal from our cultures, they
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end up distorting our cultures into something
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that we don't even recognize in this way. They are literally erasing
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Us by replacing us.
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Leanna took up this calling because the Cherokee her tribe
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is the most frequently impersonated by
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fraudsters in America.
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There is a group of white people in Georgia pretending to
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be a Cherokee tribe who prints their own Cherokee
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money and opened up their own Cherokee bank. They have no political
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or racial ties whatsoever to the
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Cherokee People and being Cherokee means appearing on
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the original census roles, which are governed by
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the tribe itself. So if you claim to have a
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Cherokee ancestor, we ask for that ancestor
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who was born between 1890 and
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1940. We connect you to them and then we connect
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them back and see if they were on any of our Cherokee roles.
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If we find out that they were terrific, you
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know, that's a non-issue at that point. If we find out
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that they were not we inform the person and let them
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know that you have no connection to the Cherokee tribe
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or the Cherokee People, you know, just don't go forward continuing to
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claim that you're Cherokee based on an unfounded
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family myth that nobody ever bothered to check out.
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So why do so many people falsely claim to be
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Cherokee? Some people do it for financial gain, they
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discover that they can get all kinds of benefits by
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claiming to be a minority-owned business students get
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scholarships from universities by ticking a
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box that says they're indigenous or Native American
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and they don't have to prove anything. They just take that
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box apply for the scholarship get it. Nobody checks. Nobody knows
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how to check.
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It's one thing to vet a student. But what
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about a prestigious University Professor whose claimed
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Cherokee roots for over 30 years?
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We at Taft heard about Robert Lovelace at Queen's University
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last year in June of 2021 when that open
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letter came out about the pretendian fraud at Queens.
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We did his genealogy. We had his genealogy confirmed
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with all three Cherokee federally recognized tribes. I
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have letters from all three of them in my possession that say
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he has zero Cherokee ancestry zero kinship
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with us. No tribal Community Connection whatsoever. We
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don't know who this person is claiming to be a Cherokee up
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in Canada. Did he have to go all the way to Canada to claim to be Cherokee and
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get away with it?
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He's not getting away with it any longer. We're done waiting.
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The tribal alliance against frauds is small But
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Mighty and they have a travel budget.
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I meet Leanna and Kingston Ontario where she's come on a
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mission to confront Robert Lovelace.
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What do you think Robert's response is going to be?
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Typically what we see in pretendians like Robert
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is that they scurry and hide they will come up
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with all kinds of excuses as to why they don't want to talk to us,
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which is I think what we're seeing here, but I could be wrong. Have
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you tried to contact him prior to coming up here? We did. I
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wrote him a letter two weeks ago. He has not responded. I will
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try to reach out to him tomorrow if he's willing to talk and I
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think that he will not come clean because he cannot
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come clean he he has no proof of anything
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if he did he would have shown it by now.
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Hi, this is Leanna Constantino of Taft
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the tribal alliance against frauds and I
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was wondering would Mr. Lovelace be available tomorrow for a
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short visit.
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As Liana stuffs letters and the Census Data
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proving to Queen's University that Bob Lovelace has
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no Cherokee blood in him. The story gets even
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weirder since immigrating to Canada in
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1969 Mr. Lovelace has gained
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a powerful indigenous Voice by helping to establish
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a new Algonquin First Nation even serving
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as it's Chief. My name
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is Robert Lovelace.
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I'm a member of the ardoc Algonquin First Nation.
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As an indigenous community in the Ottawa Valley of Canada.
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But ardoch is not federally recognized and
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many status Algonquins like veldon Coburn
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think that ardox voice and existence should
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be questioned. So this
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erdog first nation as they're now calling themselves is
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not really a geographically territorily bounds
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sort of First Nation as it were I mean,
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the closest thing to an ardoc is like a little Hamlet out
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in the middle nowhere which isn't actually populated or
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governed by Algonquin or indigenous people.
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So based on what you told me. It's not recognized by
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your nation or any Nation.
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No, even those that are non-status First
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Nations, they don't recognize me there. So yeah, no
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one no one recognizes them. Have you ever been there? Never?
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Well, I thought I'd go check it out.
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There's a road.
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a house or two
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and a mailbox
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It doesn't feel like a living breathing First
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Nation Community to me and I should know. I've
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been to over a hundred and fifty of them. So what
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is ardoc?
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It actually just doesn't exist physically. So it exists as a
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website. It's
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it's a Facebook page and all you have
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to do to become a member of the ardoc and allies First Nation or
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what have you is sign a one-page membership self-declaration form
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velden isn't the only Algonquin angry
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about ardoc meet Lynn Gail
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who spent 32 years fighting the federal government
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to gain her own Algonquin status yet has
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seen people using dubious links to the ardoc First
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Nation to gain positions of power particularly at
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universities like Queens.
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I'm really not happy with the fact that
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pretendians they have
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my skin in the game.
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They have my skin in the game.
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They didn't live my life.
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and race does matter they're taking opportunities not
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only job opportunities from us, but they
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Are barrier they're making a lot of decisions about who
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gets into programs who get scholarship who
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gets to have research dollars and it's
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really important that we allow Algonquins to shape Algonquin
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knowledge production not pretend Indians. They
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shouldn't be professors. They shouldn't be getting scholarships
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that are intended for indigenous people.
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While Lynn is troubled about the way false Algonquin
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claims are impacting places like Queens University. Liana
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Constantino is equally concerned
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how our own Cherokee tribe is being maligned
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for the same reasons.
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All of those students are thinking. Oh I'm taking
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this doctoral level course on indigenity with Robert
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Lovelace the Cherokee Elder. He is
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speaking from the perspective of a white man playing Indian. He
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has no Cherokee perspective. He never
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lived Among Us. He never had a
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Cherokee family who taught him Cherokee culture or language
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or anything like that. So all of those students
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are being defrauded.
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So how does the Robert Lovelace story
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end our numerous requests to have Robert
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lovely speak on camera for this film were declined.
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So Leanna hits Queen's campus with
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her Cherokee tribal letters and genealogical data
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hoping for a response from Mr. Lovelace. Hello.
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I was wondering if Robert Lovelace
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might be around.
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I would so much rather be sitting at home beating
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or volunteering for the Red Cross or a
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dozen other things cooking reading than
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having to do this shouldn't be
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necessary.
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But here we are your call is being transferred to
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an attendant because the owner of this mailbox is not
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accepting messages.
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So toxic and it needs to stop.
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We need better laws. We need more recognition. It's
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just not okay that people tried to exterminate us
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and now they're trying to be us.
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Doesn't fly.
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Robert Lovelace was outed over a year ago as a
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fraud. The university has done nothing about it during the past year.
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What should the University have done the
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Diversity of Saskatchewan did with Carrie Barraza.
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Forced him to resign.
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Yes that same Carrie Brasa.
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You saw earlier in this film her story and others
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like it had made national headlines and forced Canadian
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institutions to react.
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After liana's visit the Queens the university released
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an advisory report that they had commissioned on
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these issues. It acknowledges the odd
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relationship between Queen's University and an
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entity calling themselves ardoch and goes
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on to say ardoc is not a First Nation despite
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it positioning itself as such.
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Robert lovelace's name does not appear in the
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report. And as of now he is still
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employed by the University.
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When it comes to the pretendian issue have we
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gone too far and trying to out people?
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Let's just say things are getting intense. There are
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even lists circulating all through the social media
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of supposed pretendians put together
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by Anonymous sources, and it's impacting real people.
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One of those people is Cindy Baskin a social
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work Professor who's been employed for 25 years at
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Toronto metropolitan University. Formerly Ryerson
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University last year a list
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called pretendians for hire was published anonymously
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online and Cindy was on it.
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That led to a petition demanding. She lose
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her job. I've come to hear her side of
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the story.
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All right. Let's deal with the moose in the room.
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Do you consider yourself to be indigenous?
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Yes, I am McMahon my bad side and
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I am Celtic on my mum's side. Then that
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00:34:20.500 --> 00:34:23.500
begs the question. Why do some people think you're
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not native? Do you know?
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Not exactly. I I can I
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know a little bits somebody sent me what it's
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supposed to be my genealogy chart and they have
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it wrong. Even on my mother's side.
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00:34:39.500 --> 00:34:41.800
They have it was the Celtic side. Yeah.
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Situations get tricky and I'm no genealogist
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when someone like Cindy claims an indigenous
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past while Anonymous websites claim
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the opposite who decides that's what
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employers are faced with and while they're working
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it out. The personal toll can be profound has
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00:35:01.500 --> 00:35:04.300
it had a personal effect upon you
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it definitely has it
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is caused an enormous amount of
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stress.
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I've done lots of crying about it and you
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know just been scared about you know,
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where is this going to go Cindy's attackers were
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Relentless contacting both the university and
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her book publisher, but she's managed
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to weather the storm.
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So where do things then now? I'm not
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getting fired.
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I'm still doing the trainings and the workshops. Like
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I always have been so.
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Yeah, I don't know who these people are. I don't
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know how to respond because if you don't know who
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they are. How do you respond to anybody?
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All I've done since I came to this city as a
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young one is work really really hard for the
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native Community. I've always done that.
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The debate over how much Heritage or blood is needed for
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one to be considered an Indian isn't simple
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and when I travel to the University of
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waterloo's indigenous Student Center, I discover more
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about people sense of self the
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name I was giving at
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Birth is Braden Peter Lehman, but I was also given the
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name to hoga when I was four by my
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uncle Charlie who is the chief of the wolf clan on the other night
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of Reserve. I'm actually only a quarter all night.
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Is being a quarter enough that's a question. I've
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struggled with myself being that I again I
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look I'm visibly white. I mostly white
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but I do have that quarter side that is indigenous
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and I'm generally most connected to that side of my family.
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I actually do have status. I finally got the card because I
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was refused at a gas station on the
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Oneida Reserve. I don't look indigenous but
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I am
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I also know something about expressing one's
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indigenity when you don't look like they think
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you should, you know skin color straight black
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hair wild rice dripping under your pockets. People can
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treat you very differently because
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of that.
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Well, um to an extent with the being only a
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quarter First Nations, I don't feel the most accepted by
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the indigenous Community. Like I've talked with my father
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about this and he also doesn't feel the most accepted by
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00:37:23.100 --> 00:37:27.000
the indigenous Community sure. He's more than me, but he's half and
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with that I just feel like I need
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to kind of display that more. I have an earring
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with a feather on it symbolizing the indigenous
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status as well. I like to wear this jacket. So I've got
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my name painted here and I've got the Hiawatha belt
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and then on the back there has been an occasion
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before where I've been called out by non-indigenous person
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for wearing this jacket because they
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assumed I was not indigenous and then I go hi, my
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name is the whole God and then they're complete tonality
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changes.
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I don't consider myself a
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pretend Indian.
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Braden has 25% native blood a
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status card and relatives on a reserve
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but still feels the need to assert his
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identity. So what happens when your blood Quantum is
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even lower and you're on a
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journey to understand your own family's loss connection to a
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First Nation jadem hunt of the Waterloo indigenous
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Student Center grapples with that question every day.
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So you're in this position to help
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the students try and find their voice as somebody
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who's gone through that that procedure themselves. This
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is actually where I began my identity
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Journey. I'd like to call it.
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I never met my Father which is where my indigenous
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ancestry comes from. I was 23 when
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I found out about my father dying by Suicide and
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that was kind of a big turning point in my
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life. It was at that time that I started, you know,
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being invited to sweat lodges and things and I thought you know, oh I shouldn't be going
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there because I don't have status. And so this was
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a narrative that I carried forward was that because I didn't have status that
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I wasn't able to partake in any of the ceremony or
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you know, being a part of you know being indigenous
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but here at the University Jayden took
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a path towards self-identification. She
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learned that her great great grandmother was
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a full-blooded Mohawk who was in the residential school system.
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That means that I'm like 1/16 which
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gets me to thinking like well, I'm not enough right and then
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there's that question of well who determines who's enough?
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Jadem has applied for her status card. So the Canadian
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government will decide her fate. She's also reaching
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out to Mohawks from the reserve. Her indigenous relatives
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came from hoping for acceptance and deeper validation.
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From what I've seen a very
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big important part is making sure that the community also accepts
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you and so I know this community accepts me, but I haven't
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done the work in my own community that my family is a part
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of and I'm gonna do that because I want to know many have
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legitimately lost their links to first nation ancestors
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and perhaps these are not the people we
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should be judging
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But there are still so many with no authentic
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indigenous connections now coming to us for something.
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They can't seem to find elsewhere.
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What are they looking for?
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I'll tell you what I see.
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a lot of people all of a sudden become Indian
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and it's the Romantic end of it.
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It's the power dancing.
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It's I'm going to ceremonies is.
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It's all beautiful. Everybody loves each other. Everybody likes each other.
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I think there's an identity Gap State nationalism wipes
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their identity that need for identity that need for feast
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food that need for regalia that
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need for prayer that need for ritual. They're really important
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Shapers of who we are and when that's been
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wiped out of you and all you're doing is singing no Canada, eventually,
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it doesn't sustain you right?
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Now there's some good native wisdom for you. There are
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people out there in need of cultural sustenance. We
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also understand that imitation is
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supposed to be the best form of flattering but people you
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have to draw the line somewhere. My grandfather's
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grandmother was Irish. You
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don't see me waving a sheleighly around.
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Understand us accept us, but please don't
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try to be us.
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as for the number of indigenous drops of blood in my veins remember
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this
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All right, it's three weeks later and my DNA results
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are in how indigenous am I?
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it says
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here