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Ok, Mushka'le, sweetie,
please bring the bags

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Mom, I'm going this week to...

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Mandy.

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Nechamush, did you finish?

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Are you going to cut her hair?
-No, just the bangs.

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Bring me your hair band, honey.

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Good...
You may go out now.

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See... -You.

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Kiss the mezuzah.

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The mezuzah, Mushka.

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Go downstairs, sweetie,
I am watching you as you go.

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Look out the window.
-OK.

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Eat everything, OK, sweetie?

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You can take it.

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See... -You... -Soon.

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A good and pleasant day.
Kiss the mezuzah.

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Walk carefully and quickly.

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Don't let anyone talk to you
or touch you. Walk quickly.

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Look how special the kids are.

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It's a photo for eternity.

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It will be the screensaver
on my computer all my life.

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What a happy picture!

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It was taken before it all exploded, right?

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That's right.

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- Each book - 10 NIS -

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- One word too many -

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- The place of the temple -

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Hello.
-Good evening.

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I received your phone number
from Lilach.

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Sure, no problem.

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I have about ten minutes to spare

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as I have to leave
for a meeting shortly.

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If it's okay with you, let me explain
who we are and what we do.

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Our organization is called JCW,
and I'm its head here in Israel.

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Basically we assist people

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who have experienced
child sexual abuse,

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within the Jewish and
Ultra-orthodox community.

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People from around the world.

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We help with emotional treatment

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and legal matters. Wherever
there is a need to get to the police,

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or the court, or anything
related to the investigation

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which is at times a difficult
and long process,

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we are here to help
in all these matters.

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"Dear visitors,
when you visit this city

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"please respect the residents
and dress modestly"

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So we're talking here
about the film.

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It's up to you to decide
whether to do it, and how.

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Whenever we have survivors
who stand up and tell their stories,

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it's huge. It's huge.

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People come to us
that very same night,

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ready to start treatment.
That's why we...

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So will our contribution to the film
actually make that happen? -Yes.

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Yes, it's important.

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It's really not a simple decision.

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There are many things
to consider.

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There is the reaction
of the community,

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this population doesn't
even have TV sets.

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Going to the media is
something you just don't do.

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They spoke to the Rav about it.
They had to ask him, of course.

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- Posters calling for
ultra-orthodox demonstrations -

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A community that sometimes
doesn't even show pictures of women,

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so to have even talk about a movie,
is something that's...

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that's a... is a very very
complicated decision for them.

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Don't film, please.

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So let's start.

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OK, so the story started when...
I was in the eighth grade,

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that means I was 12,

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I went into this teacher's class,
a highly respected teacher...

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Even before that,
in the lower grades,

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everyone knew that this Rabbi
is a figure,

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he's a role model,
he's a great rabbi.

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He even served
in the Israeli army.

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He is different
from anyone else,

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he is more than others,
he is superior.

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Little by little...
I mean, from the start

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he would abuse me
and used to do things to me...

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I did not see it as violation,
I saw this as a part of love.

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Caressing me...
sitting me on his lap...

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He would make me sit on his lap
and touch me all over my body,

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and throughout, he'd say I was the
best and most special boy in the world,

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with the best heart,
that he loves me most,

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that I am the most righteous...

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He used to tell me stories of
the righteous - through it all.

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He used to say,
"Listen, I am doing this just to you,

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"you should...

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"you should feel proud about this,
I don't do it to anyone else,

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"but don't tell anyone,
so they won't envy you."

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Think of it, it's as if God
is revealed to you and does to you...

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causes to you... something,

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He himself does to you
something very very...

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terrible.

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Only you don't know it's terrible,

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because nobody ever talked to
you about these things,

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and he keeps telling you that
it's the most positive thing.

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Where are the little kids?
Perhaps you should call them?

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To eat before
the Hamantaschen are ready.

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He kept doing it all the time,

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caressing, and hugging...

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it was something terrible,
never-ending.

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Something you don't understand.

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Even if you are angry with him
and you don't want him to do it,

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It's like... he is your rabbi, and if he
does this, it's supposed to be good.

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And they kept telling me at home
that he is the best person.

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He would always write notes
after I spent time with him.

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"Mandy is a good student,
he helps me a lot. And good for him!"

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During military operation
Pillar of Defense

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the alarm went off
when we were in class,

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and I had a panic attack,

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I cried, and I couldn't go into
the bomb shelter, I couldn't do anything.

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So he called me...
he took me aside

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and he... again, he hugged me
and caressed me.

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Then he asked me: "Do you want
to go to my home and relax?"

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We arrived at his home,

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I was very stressed,
he read the newspaper and said,

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"come, Mandy,
sit on my lap, relax."

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He held me really close to him.

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I didn't feel good at all.

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Very uncomfortable,
not good, like...

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After three minutes...

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I felt something wet
in his pants.

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Then he picked me up and said,

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"Ok, Mandy, you do laps
around the table to relax,

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"and meanwhile, I'll go
to arrange something..."

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I was stunned,
I was in shock.

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I felt that all the things
he had done to me until that day,

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his hugs and his caressing...
now I was sure

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that this is not out of love.
I was sure of it 100 percent.

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Hi, nice to see you. -You too.
We meet in person, finely. -Yes.

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So... I first remembered
being abused,

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when I was about 19

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18, 19.
19. I was in therapy.

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And...

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my whole life
suddenly made sense,

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in a way that it never
made sense before.

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I've exposed my father,
I have gone public, I have a blog,

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and nobody will speak.

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And I'm all most 100% sure
that he is still doing this.

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I can't imagine that he stopped.

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And I want him to be investigated,
I want a serious investigation.

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Honestly, we are talking about
many years ago

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In terms of what you remember,

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and...

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and in a community where we know

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that there is an incredible
amount of push back.

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We have seen it every other case
and situation that we worked on,

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in some way even more than
other communities, often times.

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Also they made an example of me.
They tell people that I'm crazy,

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and that I'm not credible,

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and they basically kicked me out
of the community and out of my family.

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And anyone who thinks
about coming forward,

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has me as an example
to see what might happen.

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Right. Like you are the...
you are the head on the wall.

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Like you are the proverbial head
on the wall.

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Like this is
what's going to happen if you...

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And that...

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I mean, for you and for everybody else
who feels like they can't talk,

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because of the example
that was made of you,

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that's really really concerning.

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We definitely want to do
what we can, whatever we can.

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Our office in America definitely
wants to try to do something.

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And may be even more than that,

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understand how anyone in
the community thought that

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it was appropriate that...

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why would you be run out of town?

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"Father Damage"

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"Fathers are stories
too confusing to tell

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"Their loving and hating

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"So strong their legacy
of rapes and hugs

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"kind words and large hands
in private places

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"The child's mind dissociates,

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"her spirit passes through dimensions,
slipping far away to safety

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"and forgets, as he comes daily
to hunt and probe

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"the depth of the soul
he was given to destroy".

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"Genendy"

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My father was touching me.

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He was...

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He was lying on top of me,

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he was putting things inside me,
I don't remember seeing what.

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I remember I was bleeding.

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I remember...

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feeling something very sharp.

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Very sharp,
like I was being ripped,

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and I remember that he took me
to a doctor or to somebody

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to get stitches,
because I was bleeding.

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And he told me
I was not allowed to tell anyone.

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He said if I told my mother,

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he would hit me so hard
that I would never speak again.

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Every time I was abused,

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and it happened a lot
over many years,

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until I was about 6 or 7.

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Every time it was like it was
like happening for the first time.

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Because I couldn't remember.

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I couldn't...

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remember what had happened
the time before

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and then get up and go eat
and go to school

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and go play with
my brothers and sisters.

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So I had to block it out.
I had to disconnect from it.

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So it was sort of like,
I put the feelings in a box,

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and I put the pain in a separate box,
and I put the facts in a different box,

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and then I put all the boxes
in the basement,

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and I just forgot they were there.

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And soon there was no more room,
there was no more room.

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And I started having
memories,

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like flashbacks of things
that had happened,

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without really understanding
what it was.

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I knew something not good
is going on here.

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My brothers are also going through this,
so it felt to me.

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And...

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I had a fourth brother

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who started that year a class
with the same teacher.

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A fourth brother!

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This was a stage...
I was 18 then.

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Then I decided that my fourth brother
will not suffer this too.

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It was like, STOP!
Let's stop. It's no longer possible.

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I called the principal
of the Talmud Torah (School)

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and said I have something urgent
to discuss with you.

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It was midnight.

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He didn't provide exact details,

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he also didn't know
how to express them in words,

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but he knew to say
he does all sorts of indecent thing.

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He might seem like a righteous person
to you, but he is not exactly that.

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At one point I stopped him
and said to him,

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{\an7}Rabbi Menachem Mendel Cohen
School Principal
Listen, this is very very important,
what you are telling me,

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What you're doing
might even be heroic.

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To share something like this
with the principal...

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you really should receive
an honorary certificate.

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Let's say that if there was ever
justification for my salary,

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for my career - it is this story.

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This is really to back up a child,
this is really to protect him.

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On the next morning
I reported it to Social Services.

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That Thursday has arrived,
and my husband is very closed

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and very very... he is going through
something, I can see it in his eyes,

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And I see that something isn't right.

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I said to him, "Moshi, you must tell me
what's going on.

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"Something is not right,
I don't know...

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"you are going through something,

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"and also something is not right
with Yankie, at home."

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I kept trying to pull it out of him
for an hour or two...

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and then he said: "No, all is well,
you don't need to get into the thick of it".

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I started really crying and said:
"you must tell me what's going on,

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"because this isn't like you!"

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So then he told me,
"Look, someone hurt Yankie".

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I went to see Yankie, I was shaking,
trembling, crying...

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He was in bed all covered up
with his blanket over his head.

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And I...

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And I said, "Yankie, what's up,
what's going on with you?"

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And he said,
"What? Dad told you?"

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It was important to him
to cover himself up -

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he said, "Dad told you?"

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I said, "Yes, Dad told me.
But he didn't tell me...

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"what did he do to you?
Tell me what he did to you,

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"so I will understand.
I can't believe it."

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He said, "He did something to me
at the Mikveh (Ritual bath)..."

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Good night, sweetheart.

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Your right hand...

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Your right hand,
over your eyes.

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Shema Israel Adonai Elohenu
Adonai E... -Chad. (Prayer)

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I said just one sentence to him,

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"Yankie, from this moment on,
we are with you only".

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I sat with him until morning,
the two of us didn't sleep.

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We cried a lot,
I didn't stop shaking.

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In the morning, I had to go to work,
I was a first grade teacher.

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I did not prepare Shabbat,
it was Shabbat eve,

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I didn't cook anything.
Everything here was like mourning.

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All I could get out of him
throughout all these hours was...

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"Mom, check
with my brothers too."

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It was like the atom was discovered,
like lava exploding.

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Like the most personal thing,
the most concealed thing,

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the secret I kept.

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I didn't even dare thinking
to myself about it for 5 years.

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And suddenly...
Hey, it's... it's...

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We are talking about it,
starting to open...

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I know that my mom asked my brothers
if they too were hurt.

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And so we found out
that all three of us were assaulted.

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Fork anyone?

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So I was in the middle of saying.

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You know dad's parents,
Mama and grand pair,

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but you never met
my parents even though

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they are your
grandmother and grandfather.

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Where do they live? -In America,
the U.S.A., that's where I grew up.

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Do you think they would like
meeting my brothers?

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I think, I cannot imagine

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being a grandparent or a parent

00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:46.200
and not wanting to see
your own child or grandchild.

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If I was my child
I would miss me very much

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and want to have
a relationship with me.

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And if any of you would ever be not in
my life, it would be devastating for me,

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and I would do anything I could
to try to have a relationship with you.

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Even if you were murderers in jail
I'd still come visit you.

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And I would still love you, even
if don't agree with what you did.

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I don't want to invite them
to my Bar Mitzvah,

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Because I think they will come
just to see Israel, not to see you. Or me.

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Mom do you think
they'd like to meet me?

00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:15.560
I do.

00:21:16.600 --> 00:21:20.040
I think they would like to meet you
but they are scared to meet you

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because you are my daughter.

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and they are kind of scared of me
and what I know,

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and the secrets I will not keep.

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I want to invite my sister
to the Bar Mitzvah.

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Alright. Good luck kid.

00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:47.080
Hey, come here, come here lucky,
come here.

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Good boy.

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Hi,

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good morning.

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Good morning to you,
who am I speaking with?

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Genendy.

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God bless, I'm good,
how are you?

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I just called to tell you
that I miss you

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and that we are making a bar mitzvah
for my son and I wanted to invite you.

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She hung up.

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That's it?
-That's it.

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She won't talk to me.

00:23:06.120 --> 00:23:09.960
Is that what you were expecting?
Ya. Rejection.

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Hope is the food of survival.

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I haven't spoken to any of my siblings
over 15 years.

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Do you miss them?

00:23:57.920 --> 00:23:59.480
Yes.

00:24:02.520 --> 00:24:04.320
Very much.

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They are part of me.

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So when I first try to tell

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I was about 19 or 20 and...

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Until 19-20?
-Until 19, 20, I didn't have any words.

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I didn't have the word
"sexual abuse",

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I didn't have the knowledge
of such a thing existing in the world.

00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:45.480
I was never taught about sex
or sexual abuse,

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or sexuality in any way.

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I told my sister,
my older sister,

00:24:55.360 --> 00:24:57.640
that I remembered
my father raping me.

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She said, it couldn't have happened.
It didn't happen.

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You are making a mistake.

00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:07.760
At that point,

00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:12.240
two of my sisters came to my house
with their husbands,

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and they said that unless I promised
never to tell anyone

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that my father abused me, they were
going to cut me out of the family.

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And they told me it was a decision
of the Rabbi, of the family Rav.

00:25:24.120 --> 00:25:27.160
So I called him up, and he said
that my siblings had to choose

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between me and my father,
and they chose my father.

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And I said: why do they have to choose?
Why can't they...

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it's a complex situation,

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they need to support their father
and they need to support their sister.

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And he said:
No, they have to choose.

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And anyway I don't think
you are credible.

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I don't believe you.

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And I also started thinking
maybe I am crazy, because

00:25:51.280 --> 00:25:54.880
every time I tried to get help
and tell someone about it

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they said it couldn't be
It wasn't true, it didn't happen.

00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:00.760
And they were there,
so I figured they must know, right?

00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:02.520
It's my parents, it's my siblings...

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they kept saying, "We were there,
nothing happened".

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Did you ever doubt yourself?
-Oh, yes!

00:26:09.520 --> 00:26:13.080
And I wanted to.
Because I wanted to believe them.

00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:15.920
Believe what? -I wanted to believe
them that nothing happened.

00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:19.000
Who wants to believe
that their father raped him?

00:26:19.520 --> 00:26:21.880
I'd rather believe anything else.

00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:24.440
I'd rather believe I am crazy.

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There were these couple of weeks,
that you are at the Yeshivah,

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and what will happen to you
now that you have said it...

00:26:51.560 --> 00:26:55.520
and then there's this fear
that he might catch you,

00:26:55.600 --> 00:26:57.720
even before we go to the police,

00:26:57.800 --> 00:27:01.400
he may come and take revenge on us,
something like that.

00:27:02.520 --> 00:27:07.200
I think anyone in the community,
every person who knew him,

00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:11.560
if you were to ask him
about Lisson, our teacher,

00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:14.880
they'd say he is
a very positive figure,

00:27:15.120 --> 00:27:20.200
a strong contributor, very caring.
A well-known scholar of the Torah,

00:27:20.360 --> 00:27:23.640
and for all practical purposes
he knew the full Tanya by heart.

00:27:23.760 --> 00:27:25.360
- With God's help -

00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:28.000
He was really an ideal figure.

00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:31.560
When I analyze this figure...

00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:36.280
I see him as a person
who does good deeds,

00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:40.440
not to help, but to find prey.

00:27:40.760 --> 00:27:43.760
It seemed that once he locks in
on a specific target

00:27:43.840 --> 00:27:46.440
he will help that target,
he will nurture it,

00:27:46.600 --> 00:27:51.040
then, finally, he will be able
to invite him and do things to him.

00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:14.120
Meanwhile, I found out that
the authorities are looking for me.

00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:17.800
A social worker has contacted me.
I said: "please, leave me alone,

00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:20.520
"let's shut this down.
He should take care of himself,

00:28:20.600 --> 00:28:24.320
"I'll take care of my children.
This isn't for me, this war.

00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:27.160
She said: "You can't!
He is a teacher of children.

00:28:27.280 --> 00:28:32.040
"If you don't take the children to the police,
we'll pick them up from their schools

00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:35.440
"and investigate them.
Because this is the law".

00:28:36.120 --> 00:28:39.320
It's me against the entire community,
I'm against the cheider (school),

00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:41.880
I'm against families,

00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.080
It is unacceptable for us to go
to the police at all. Understand this!

00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.040
These are things
that we cover up.

00:28:47.120 --> 00:28:51.040
And anyway, I'm not one for wars,
and I don't really know how to go and do it.

00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.320
And suddenly it fell on me.
Go fight, go to the police...

00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:57.280
I was never in my life
at a police station.

00:28:59.560 --> 00:29:03.560
People came by and knocked on my door
and told me: "Don't you...

00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.360
"don't you have a righteous soul?

00:29:06.600 --> 00:29:09.760
"Why did you go to the police?
Couldn't you have dealt with this quietly?"

00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:13.160
Everyone in the community
knows us very very well,

00:29:13.280 --> 00:29:17.080
we have a good reputation,
and we are very active people, very social.

00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:21.360
And thank God, our reputation
alway preceded us.

00:29:21.520 --> 00:29:23.760
But suddenly, there is no one.

00:29:23.840 --> 00:29:27.840
And not only that,
the community is collecting money

00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:31.040
to help him
hire a lawyer against us.

00:29:31.520 --> 00:29:34.280
His wife is at home with the children
because he is in custody,

00:29:34.360 --> 00:29:39.880
so the community supports him,
and sends meals and babysitters to help her.

00:29:40.120 --> 00:29:42.920
But here at home, where we are
under complete mourning,

00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:45.960
where the mother doesn't function,
where three children were hurt.

00:29:46.080 --> 00:29:50.280
Here no one even has the the strength
to scramble an egg.

00:29:50.560 --> 00:29:54.600
No one from the community even picked up
the phone to ask if we need anything.

00:29:54.800 --> 00:29:59.360
No one from the community called
to ask, how are you doing.

00:30:17.840 --> 00:30:21.120
The guys talked about us behind
our backs at the Yeshivah.

00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:25.280
Instead of supporting us,
they did quite the opposite,

00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.520
they fought us.

00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:31.040
I remember when the trial started,
the teacher kept saying:

00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:35.480
"Now I have a friend who is in court,
Aaron Shlomo Lisson.

00:30:35.600 --> 00:30:38.080
"We should pray for him to prevail."

00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.480
And me, I am sitting in that class
all alone, eating myself up.

00:30:41.600 --> 00:30:43.960
And nobody...
not only do they not believe it,

00:30:44.080 --> 00:30:47.400
nobody fights,
and nobody supports.

00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:50.400
This was so painful, it was so...

00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:53.560
To this day, I don't trust
human beings at all.

00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:59.480
I only have animals,
which are the only thing I believe in.

00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.800
At the Yeshivah the children
went through very difficult things,

00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:09.520
until they have left the Yeshivah.

00:31:09.600 --> 00:31:13.320
The children didn't leave the house
for a year and a half,

00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:15.640
without an educational framework,
without friends,

00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.200
no teacher or friend calling
and asking how they are doing.

00:31:19.360 --> 00:31:22.000
Just so you understand,
how far they were shunned.

00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.560
There was this event in the synagogue,
with my son.

00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:27.120
He went to the synagogue
to pray,

00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:31.600
and one of the people there was a...
supporter of Lisson,

00:31:31.760 --> 00:31:34.960
and he counted a Minyan (prayer quorum)
without including my son.

00:31:35.040 --> 00:31:38.080
He didn't count my son
as one of the Minyan.

00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.440
Because my son is
a Moisser (Informer).

00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.880
I went to one of the important
people in the community,

00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.520
I asked him a question
on a Torah matter that he wrote,

00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:54.200
to explain to me a topic
that I wanted to study.

00:31:55.800 --> 00:31:59.920
He said: "Listen, I don't know
if I can even talk to you.

00:32:00.120 --> 00:32:02.800
"You are a Moisser (informer)."

00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:11.640
What about friends?
How did they treat you?

00:32:17.760 --> 00:32:23.200
I was at an upper level Yeshivah by then.
It was very hard.

00:32:25.120 --> 00:32:27.360
Can we take a break
for a few minutes?

00:32:27.560 --> 00:32:29.880
Let's take a break
for a few minutes. -Yes.

00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.400
This is very hard on me.
There are so many things.

00:32:48.360 --> 00:32:50.800
We are having a Bar Mitzva,
God willing,

00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.800
and I'm looking for a suit,
a shirt.

00:33:19.080 --> 00:33:22.240
Hi, how are you doing?
Oh hi, how are you?

00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:28.000
I wanted to talk to you because
we are doing this documentary,

00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:32.000
{\an7}Rav Yosef Blau
Spiritual guidance counselor
Yeshiva University
And I wanted to know what you think

00:33:32.080 --> 00:33:36.560
the jewish law says about
going public with something like this.

00:33:37.520 --> 00:33:40.720
You are doing actually
"kidoosh hashem"

00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:45.000
You are doing something positive
for God's images in this world.

00:33:45.120 --> 00:33:48.640
To know that there are people
in the Orthodox community

00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:50.920
who are fighting for change,

00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:56.120
to protect all thoughts who should not
become victims in the future.

00:33:57.360 --> 00:34:00.680
Right. On the one hand I feel
like this is my mission,

00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.880
that I have to do this work,

00:34:04.080 --> 00:34:08.520
And on the other hand,
it's so tempting not to do it,

00:34:08.640 --> 00:34:11.560
because my family will be
much more open

00:34:11.640 --> 00:34:13.960
to having a relationship with me,

00:34:14.120 --> 00:34:16.440
if I would just keep my mouth shut.

00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:18.960
Is that something
you could understand?

00:34:20.160 --> 00:34:23.320
I think it's wonderful that you do it,

00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:25.880
and the truth of the matter is

00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:31.600
that if you try to reestablish
a relationship with your family

00:34:31.720 --> 00:34:36.040
without being honest,
it wouldn't work.

00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.800
Right.
To me it's not a real relationship.

00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:42.000
Am... we lost him.

00:34:42.160 --> 00:34:44.240
We can't see you anymore.

00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.080
Can you see us?

00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:48.320
We lost your screen.

00:34:48.640 --> 00:34:50.240
Ah, there you are!

00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.720
And since we have known each other
for many years

00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.880
I have some sense
of what you've gone through,

00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:59.760
and hopefully at some point
your family will understand that

00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:02.280
and appreciate your contribution.

00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:05.840
Amen. Thank you.

00:35:08.560 --> 00:35:12.560
Baruch ata...

00:35:12.640 --> 00:35:16.360
- Prayer for good dreams -

00:35:23.200 --> 00:35:24.840
Have sweet dreams.

00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:27.960
Can I get and give a hug and a kiss?
-Yes, you do.

00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:50.640
I'm having a panic attack.

00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.120
(Calling her brother)

00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:00.600
Hello, please leave a message.

00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:03.840
At the tone record your...

00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.360
Please leave a message.

00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:09.080
Hi, this is Genendi calling.

00:36:09.200 --> 00:36:13.280
We haven't been in touch for a long time
but I wanted to let you know

00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.840
that we are making a bar mitzvah
for our son in a few months

00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.880
and I wanted to invite you.
Bye.

00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:29.720
After I got married, when I was 25

00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:33.280
somebody called me and said that
my father was being investigated

00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:37.200
for sexually abusing
a boy in the school

00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.560
where he was the principal
at that time.

00:36:43.080 --> 00:36:45.920
And they wanted me
to speak to the detective,

00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:49.520
and I spoke to the detective

00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.600
and he told me he thought
that my father was guilty,

00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.760
but that the community was not
cooperating with the investigation.

00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:57.840
Nobody would speak to him,

00:36:58.040 --> 00:37:00.240
and what happen to me
was in another state

00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.720
and also there was a statute of limitations
that ran out for me when I was about..

00:37:08.520 --> 00:37:11.920
I can't remember, but it was earlier
maybe when I was 18?

00:37:12.240 --> 00:37:15.960
And he said he couldn't enter
what I was telling him as evidence.

00:37:16.200 --> 00:37:19.520
But that... but that he believed me.

00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:41.520
We used to go to court,
I was at court 61 times.

00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.200
I'd arrive to the courthouse,
just me on my own,

00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.440
because my husband
had to work and provide for us.

00:37:47.520 --> 00:37:51.440
And people from the community
came with him, to support him,

00:37:51.600 --> 00:37:53.440
and to laugh at me!

00:37:53.600 --> 00:37:56.000
And look me in the face and tell me,
"You are a liar,

00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:58.560
"you are a false accuser."

00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.440
People who are educators,
that in the mornings

00:38:02.520 --> 00:38:05.080
are supposed to educate my son,
who is at the same yeshivah,

00:38:05.160 --> 00:38:08.320
they come and testify
in support of the offender...

00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:12.520
and the children sit in court,
listening to their testimonies and crying.

00:38:12.600 --> 00:38:16.000
Because they can't see an educator,
whom they know so well,

00:38:16.080 --> 00:38:19.000
and even was a role model for them,
and was close to them,

00:38:19.120 --> 00:38:23.680
comes and testifies for a person
who has butchered their lives.

00:38:24.720 --> 00:38:27.600
And so three years went by.

00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.280
They kept watching us,
what do we do.

00:38:36.680 --> 00:38:39.680
No one could have moved on our side,
because If someone held up a phone,

00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:42.480
they ran to the judge to complain
that we are photographing them!

00:38:42.560 --> 00:38:45.280
This was such a persecution,
such a shunning!

00:38:46.680 --> 00:38:49.600
And then this lawyer stands up
and says to the judge:

00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:53.120
"Look how many rabbis and people of
the community came here to tell you

00:38:53.240 --> 00:38:58.120
"how righteous this person is
and how this mother is a false accuser."

00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.600
At the end of the hearing,
I stood up and shouted:

00:39:02.680 --> 00:39:06.200
"Who are those rabbis
who came to support this criminal?"

00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:08.560
Then one member of the community
stands up and says:

00:39:08.640 --> 00:39:11.160
"Look at this mother!
If you are screaming this way at rabbis,

00:39:11.240 --> 00:39:13.800
"no wonder
your children are such liars."

00:39:19.640 --> 00:39:22.320
I spoke with Ornit and heard

00:39:22.560 --> 00:39:24.400
how the community
is treating them,

00:39:26.160 --> 00:39:29.840
it was just a classic
case of Moisser (informer)

00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.600
and it touched me,

00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.960
and I decided that I will accompany
them to all the hearings.

00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:42.760
This concept of Moisser (informer)
is an Halachic matter,

00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:46.960
and it is important to understand its
historical background.

00:39:47.040 --> 00:39:49.800
If somebody were to bring a Jew

00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.760
to report on a Jew to the
secular authorities for a crime

00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.960
In an era where there was a
tremendous amount of anti-Semitism,

00:39:57.040 --> 00:40:00.000
it could literally put the entire
community in danger,

00:40:00.080 --> 00:40:02.600
it could endanger the lives
of everyone in the community.

00:40:05.600 --> 00:40:08.080
Any community that sees
themselves as being "us"

00:40:08.160 --> 00:40:10.720
and there is a "them"
there is this concept.

00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:12.920
You see it with gangs,

00:40:13.040 --> 00:40:16.680
you see it in the Christian community,
you see it in the Arab community.

00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.800
Something they talked a lot
in the Kibbutzim.

00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.360
Any community.
in universities in the U.S.A.

00:40:22.600 --> 00:40:25.840
Any community that sees itself
as being insular in anyway,

00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.480
has a resistance to bringing
their dirty laundry

00:40:28.560 --> 00:40:30.920
to the outsiders
and to the outside authorities.

00:40:44.560 --> 00:40:47.160
- Danger! -
- Indecent devices sold here -

00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:50.760
Danger. For all who want
to be saved from blasphemy

00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.760
and contradicting the words of wise men
and many other offences -

00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:57.800
Rabbis Berland, Bnayahu-Shmueli
and Zedakah, have forbidden

00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.160
shopping in stores that sell devices
that connect to the internet and films.

00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:06.200
- No computers here or any devices
that connect to the internet -

00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:10.320
If you want to be saved from blasphemy
and placing obstacles for the many,

00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.960
there's a kosher phone store
20 meters away.

00:41:15.520 --> 00:41:18.000
Rabbis Berland, Bnayahu-Shmueli
and Zedakah,

00:41:18.160 --> 00:41:21.600
have forbidden shopping
in stores that sell devices

00:41:21.680 --> 00:41:23.840
that connect to
the internet and films.

00:41:25.240 --> 00:41:29.920
These devices cause severe
psychiatric illnesses, divorces...

00:41:31.560 --> 00:41:34.480
"Attention all residents!
In this building lives a Moisser (Informer)

00:41:34.560 --> 00:41:37.320
"He informed to the police about a
Yeshiva student

00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:39.520
"who in a fit of whimsy,
fooled around with children.

00:41:39.600 --> 00:41:41.920
"The life of the yeshiva
student was ruined

00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:43.920
"and ever since,
he is deeply depressed.

00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:47.600
"Instead of going to the Rabbis,
he informed the heretics' police

00:41:47.680 --> 00:41:50.000
"Get out, impure orthodox
from our neighborhood,

00:41:50.080 --> 00:41:53.040
"you'll have no place
in the world to come."

00:41:53.200 --> 00:41:55.120
Way to go my bro!

00:41:57.080 --> 00:41:59.920
I arrived at the Mikveh (Ritual bath)
and he arrived after me.

00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:05.440
There is a specific situation
That I don't want to elaborate on.

00:42:05.720 --> 00:42:09.400
He saw that there
were no people around, and...

00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:11.720
he did to me what he did.

00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:13.920
In that moment you freeze.

00:42:14.080 --> 00:42:16.560
I just froze, right there on the spot.

00:42:17.520 --> 00:42:19.640
These are hard things.

00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.160
These are things
that don't leave me,

00:42:22.720 --> 00:42:25.760
for days on end...

00:42:27.080 --> 00:42:30.040
I can feel him,

00:42:31.560 --> 00:42:33.920
accompanying me,
physically.

00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.320
I can remember his breathing.

00:42:40.160 --> 00:42:42.640
His beard behind me.

00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:47.400
This is... this is hell.

00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:56.680
I want to say that there was a huge failure
of the police in investigating my children.

00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:59.200
They did not know
how to investigate them.

00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.120
They did not know how to investigate
ultra-orthodox children.

00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:04.680
They didn't know how to go gently
into details with them.

00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:06.880
And if the child didn't say enough
about something,

00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.160
something he felt,
they didn't pay attention to it.

00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:12.840
And from the child's point of view,
he has gone through a terrible event.

00:43:13.040 --> 00:43:17.080
Investigators must adjust to
whomever they are investigating.

00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:20.360
There is a specific point that is not...

00:43:20.520 --> 00:43:24.440
that it was difficult for me...
It was traumatic to pinpoint.

00:43:24.680 --> 00:43:28.640
In the indictment... It was hard for me
and I didn't say it clearly.

00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:30.160
Outright.

00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:35.800
And this... sometimes...
it kills me. Kills me.

00:43:41.040 --> 00:43:43.440
The trial is going on
for more than a year and a half.

00:43:43.520 --> 00:43:45.240
This is the injustice by the way,

00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:48.000
this is the injustice and it is
part of the attrition process.

00:43:48.080 --> 00:43:51.080
I call on the Chief Justice of the
Supreme court on a personal level,

00:43:51.160 --> 00:43:54.200
let me rehabilitate my children,
let me bring home normal children.

00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:58.360
Help me finish with this trial already.
They can't be normal children anymore.

00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:02.320
The family is demanding to expedite
the judicial process, to reach the truth.

00:44:02.560 --> 00:44:06.120
So things went on for six months,
that things only deteriorated

00:44:06.240 --> 00:44:09.200
mentally and physically.

00:44:09.640 --> 00:44:12.080
And my husband,
it was very painful for him.

00:44:12.200 --> 00:44:14.400
As in, what are you doing?
You let it conquer you.

00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.200
True, you fight and all,
but here you are harming yourself,

00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:20.040
and I was in situations
that I wished I was dead.

00:44:20.160 --> 00:44:22.800
I felt screwed up,
you don't know what it's like, Dalit.

00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.320
I didn't leave the house
the entire Sukkot holiday,

00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.680
and I said, Ornit, you're worthless
You should die and let this be over.

00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:31.280
You're worthless.
Your home is falling apart,

00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:33.160
you have no intimacy
with your husband,

00:44:33.240 --> 00:44:35.000
your economic situation
is down the drain,

00:44:35.080 --> 00:44:37.560
you can't even go for a walk with
your kids in Jerusalem.

00:44:37.640 --> 00:44:38.840
There's not even 1 NIS.

00:44:42.520 --> 00:44:45.400
I went to Rachel's Tomb
and cried there,

00:44:45.560 --> 00:44:48.680
I broke down into pieces.
I said to her, you must guide me,

00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:53.720
either I am going down to the ground,
or you help to get back on my feet.

00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.960
And then I said, Ornit,
you will do something with yourself:

00:45:08.120 --> 00:45:10.120
You are going to law school

00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:13.480
I called my husband,
he was in shock.

00:45:13.640 --> 00:45:16.560
He said to me,
"You are going to study Law,

00:45:16.680 --> 00:45:21.600
"and God willing, help any family
that goes through this.

00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:26.320
"Help, support and accompany families
who are going through this."

00:45:28.160 --> 00:45:31.800
The offenders, they'd better not
fall into my hands.

00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:37.040
They'd better not!
because I will not let them breath.

00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:50.320
Yes, this upsets me and it's painful,

00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:54.480
and the questions and reflections,
how does this all fit together?

00:45:54.680 --> 00:45:57.960
Why did he do this to me
for so many years.

00:45:58.200 --> 00:46:04.080
And I came to the conclusion that
he is not the religion. He is not God.

00:46:05.120 --> 00:46:07.680
At most he is a person
representing God,

00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.480
and even in this count
he sinned big time.

00:46:10.680 --> 00:46:14.720
Religion is justice,
and this is injustice.

00:46:20.120 --> 00:46:23.040
It's not a matter of being religious or not,
this is a matter of...

00:46:23.200 --> 00:46:26.280
I prove to myself that...

00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:30.960
the external part, or how I look,
or how I dress, anything like this,

00:46:31.120 --> 00:46:33.240
doesn't prove anything
about the person himself.

00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:35.440
It does not prove whether I am
a good person or not.

00:46:35.520 --> 00:46:38.680
I saw my teacher,

00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:41.800
the offender
who hurt me,

00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:45.000
who was externally so righteous,

00:46:45.680 --> 00:46:49.680
who always wore a hat and suit,
and used to pray...

00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:54.200
This is a type of disguise. This is
A person dressing up as one thing,

00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:57.000
when on the inside,
he is something entirely different.

00:46:57.080 --> 00:47:01.080
And I am not... I prefer
to be true to myself with what I am

00:47:01.160 --> 00:47:04.760
and for this it doesn't matter
how I look or how I dress,

00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.960
or if I believe or if I don't believe...
it's not something...

00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:11.080
The most important thing for me,
is to be a human being,

00:47:11.200 --> 00:47:15.680
to be someone who cares about himself,
cares about others.

00:47:17.640 --> 00:47:20.520
Yossi, good morning,
I am in the midst of all the pressure.

00:47:20.640 --> 00:47:23.720
I will be happy if you send me
the flight details.

00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:28.920
Hong Kong time is hours
ahead of here.

00:47:29.080 --> 00:47:31.240
I land on Tuesday at noon,

00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:34.600
so what's the schedule?
how long, etc. Thanks.

00:47:39.640 --> 00:47:42.960
To remain in the place where...

00:47:43.080 --> 00:47:45.800
no other child confessed
that he too was hurt by Lisson,

00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:53.800
all remained quiet
everything remained under the carpet.

00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:00.600
But I understood them, nobody wants
to go through what we went through,

00:48:00.720 --> 00:48:04.800
sacrifice one's personal
and family life,

00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.360
it's too hard!

00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:12.000
God willing,
I will update you with everything.

00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.160
God willing all will be ok.
I'll be back before the verdict.

00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:20.080
God willing, the truth will prevail and
will make it all the way to Hong Kong.

00:48:22.520 --> 00:48:25.280
Mom, I will close it.
Please move.

00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:38.600
I think that people who help others,
they themselves feel better.

00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:41.760
So I decided I will go to Hong Kong,
to help people there.

00:48:42.040 --> 00:48:45.720
Help Israelis who arrive there,
travelers, students.

00:48:46.080 --> 00:48:51.320
To disengage from this environment,
and cleanse a bit.

00:48:59.960 --> 00:49:04.960
Bye, mom.
-Be strong, all will be well.

00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:29.760
Over the last number of months
there have been lots of phone calls

00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:33.200
I and Meir have spoken
to enough people

00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.960
who personally know victims

00:49:36.160 --> 00:49:39.520
and at this point...
-My father? -Yes.

00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:42.840
Wow! That's huge. -Yes.

00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.920
Unfortunately, nobody wants
to talk about it,

00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:47.960
nobody wants to admit
that it is happening,

00:49:48.040 --> 00:49:49.640
nobody wants to be
moisser about it,

00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:53.400
nobody wants to discuss it openly.

00:49:53.680 --> 00:49:58.080
And we begged and pleaded
and written letters, they will not talk.

00:49:58.560 --> 00:50:03.360
I wonder if you would ask
these friends of the victims

00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:05.400
If they will be willing to speak to me.

00:50:05.640 --> 00:50:09.120
Because it will be
so validating for me,

00:50:09.200 --> 00:50:11.600
Just to hear somebody saying:
"Ya, it happened to me too".

00:50:11.680 --> 00:50:13.800
Because for so many years
I have been told

00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:15.800
that I'm crazy
and that I'm the only one.

00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:19.320
And... I don't know
if they would do it,

00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:23.200
but... or even just to send me
some confirmation or something.

00:50:36.240 --> 00:50:38.120
Verdict day.

00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:07.480
Enter, it is allowed to come in today.

00:51:09.040 --> 00:51:11.600
Today everybody may enter.

00:51:25.240 --> 00:51:31.160
I am very nervous,
so we'll wait, and I believe the judge

00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:36.080
will give the verdict as it should be.
God willing...

00:51:38.640 --> 00:51:40.880
A person like this
who has harmed children

00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:44.280
should know he'll never see
the light of day.

00:51:44.600 --> 00:51:47.920
One cannot take the lives of children
just like that.

00:51:48.040 --> 00:51:50.640
God willing he will get his
due punishment,

00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:53.800
and we are waiting for this in
the next few minutes, God willing.

00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:56.840
How are the kids?
-That's it.

00:52:04.080 --> 00:52:05.920
Security!

00:52:08.600 --> 00:52:10.440
Do you have regrets?

00:52:26.720 --> 00:52:30.960
{\an7}Lawyer Yifat Pinchasi
State Attorney's Office
The court has sentenced today 7 years
of imprisonment on Aaron Shlomo Lisson

00:52:31.160 --> 00:52:34.720
for sexually assaulting
three of his students.

00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:38.880
We respect the Court's ruling,
however we think it was made in error,

00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:45.320
{\an7}Lawyer Ariel Atari
Represents the defendant
will succeed, and will determine
that the accusers are liars,

00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.840
and Mr. Lisson will finally
be acquitted of all charges.

00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:51.080
Mommy's hero. Mommy's hero.

00:52:51.720 --> 00:52:54.200
I expected a little more, but...

00:52:54.680 --> 00:52:57.320
a punishment more severe
for these types of acts,

00:52:57.480 --> 00:52:59.560
we argued for 12 years.

00:53:01.160 --> 00:53:03.240
Yankie...

00:53:04.040 --> 00:53:06.640
My Yankie, my soul!

00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:12.000
Yankie, your truth has come out.

00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.080
Yankie, you are
brave and courageous,

00:53:17.160 --> 00:53:19.520
look what you have done.

00:53:20.120 --> 00:53:22.960
You three changed the world today.

00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:27.040
Now you are coming out of it
with your heads held high,

00:53:27.160 --> 00:53:29.960
because you won, over them all,

00:53:30.080 --> 00:53:33.680
the system, the people,
the community, everybody, you won.

00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:38.120
That's it. Yankie, I am proud of you!
I am so proud of you all! So proud!

00:53:38.520 --> 00:53:42.000
Be strong, Yankie...
My sweetie...

00:53:44.680 --> 00:53:46.960
Say something to Mom...

00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:49.400
Say something...

00:53:53.160 --> 00:53:56.040
He's so sweet...

00:53:56.520 --> 00:53:59.080
How are you doing, Yankie?
-What? -How are you?

00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:05.400
What? -It's not easy to be
so far away out there. -What?

00:54:06.200 --> 00:54:08.920
It's not easy to be so far away.

00:54:09.080 --> 00:54:12.320
Yes, you are right.
It's not easy with you being there.

00:54:12.520 --> 00:54:14.960
But you know this is from heaven too.

00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:18.760
My sweetie...

00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:22.920
We'll talk to you later.

00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:27.680
See you, dear.
I love you. Bye.

00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:49.480
Dance, dance.

00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:00.000
Dance, dance.

00:55:18.040 --> 00:55:20.120
I made a decision to come forward.

00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:23.960
Today, for the first time,
I decided to remove the glove,

00:55:24.080 --> 00:55:27.040
and to be exposed here,
on my facebook page

00:55:27.160 --> 00:55:30.640
and share with you a bit,
of the stormy ocean of my life.

00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:33.960
And even if only to encourage,
strength, and raise the spirit, spirit,

00:55:34.080 --> 00:55:36.480
and give hope
to those children and youth

00:55:36.600 --> 00:55:39.720
who are going through the same story
of abuse that I underwent.

00:55:40.160 --> 00:55:44.400
I am Yankie, I'm 21.
I have decided to come forward.

00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:51.080
It was very stressful
to press the Enter key.

00:55:55.160 --> 00:55:59.200
This post did, what no media
was able to do, It's amazing!

00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:01.920
I wrote the post
without thinking too much.

00:56:02.720 --> 00:56:06.200
I thought I'd get a hundred 'likes' and
will be on my private facebook page

00:56:06.640 --> 00:56:08.840
and instead,
I reached the entire globe.

00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.280
it went so viral and so many...

00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.400
hundreds of thousands of people
have seen it, and responded.

00:56:14.520 --> 00:56:16.520
and the discussions
in many synagogues...

00:56:16.600 --> 00:56:19.160
People contacted me from
Crown Heights, from New York,

00:56:19.240 --> 00:56:22.920
from France, from all kinds
of places... from Europe...

00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:25.800
this has become a topic
of discourse in our community.

00:56:27.200 --> 00:56:29.320
These things are keeping me strong,

00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:33.440
and I think that on that night I smiled
to myself like I never did before.

00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:56.000
He is about the same age
that I was when I first

00:56:56.160 --> 00:56:58.360
spoke about
what happened to me.

00:56:59.040 --> 00:57:03.800
And also had to deal with the denial
and the anger of the community.

00:57:04.720 --> 00:57:07.360
It gives me hope
that things are changing,

00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:13.400
and maybe the time is right

00:57:13.640 --> 00:57:18.800
and my family will realize
that they made a mistake.

00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:38.160
Hello. -How are you?
Good to see you again. -Come in.

00:58:39.560 --> 00:58:41.840
So as you know,
we have been investigating it,

00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:43.400
and I spoke to you
a few weeks ago...

00:58:43.720 --> 00:58:45.760
and we have been calling
people up

00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:48.400
and trying to gather
so much information,

00:58:48.520 --> 00:58:50.320
here, there,
there is a rumor...

00:58:50.600 --> 00:58:53.480
but there is nobody actually coming out
and saying 'I was abused'.

00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:56.600
{\an8}Meyer Seewald
Jewish CommunityWatch - CEO
It's all second hand.

00:58:56.680 --> 00:58:58.280
And when we tried to get to them -
they are like...

00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:00.800
Oh, the person doesn't want to talk.
They shut down, and shut down...

00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:03.000
over and over...
for years.

00:59:03.560 --> 00:59:05.680
They are afraid.

00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:08.960
We had a major breakthrough
last week.

00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:15.840
Through one of those
people that knew somebody

00:59:16.560 --> 00:59:21.200
We ended up speaking to a young boy,
in the statute of limitations

00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:23.760
who said that he was abused.

00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:26.080
By my father?
-By your father.

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And he was abused for a few years
starting at 5 years old...

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He spoke to you? -He spoke
to me. -He spoke to both of us.

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And I have his name and he gave us
a lot of more information,

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of a lot of things that you gave us,

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of the second hand people that you
heard of that may have been abused...

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This boy is...

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he told us on the phone...

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that he finally feels that something
is being done in the community.

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He wants to speak to you.

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I can't believe it.

01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:10.320
I can't believe it.

01:00:10.600 --> 01:00:13.840
It's like I've been waiting for this
for years.

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Years and years and years.

01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:19.600
Unfortunately it sounds like all the guys,
all the name he told us,

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they were names that
we heard rumors about before,

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and were never able to get to.

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They are all heavily abused in drugs.

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What happened to this kid, was it sort
of the level of abuse that I remember?

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It was bad, I mean,
it was serious.

01:00:37.200 --> 01:00:40.520
And there were other kids there,
he saw other kids.

01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:47.760
Oh, my gosh.
I just want to give you a hug.

01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:52.920
I'll give you a hug. I'm just so sorry
that you had to wait so long.

01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:57.520
Oh my God.
-I don't know...

01:00:57.640 --> 01:01:01.200
I'm just sorry that
I went so many years

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trying to convince myself
that I was crazy.

01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:08.280
Well you are crazy,
but it's a good crazy.

01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:14.320
Because it just would have been
so much easier to be crazy...

01:01:17.640 --> 01:01:20.360
He said the same thing to the...

01:01:21.160 --> 01:01:27.040
..when we spoke to him, he said,
I'm happy to put my name out there,

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and we said,
Ok, that's a big decision,

01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.760
maybe you sleep on that.

01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:35.400
And he said no,
they already...

01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:39.280
(Attending a blessing)

01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:15.880
Hi, sweetie. -Ya?

01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:19.200
I have something to show you.

01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:26.200
It's a letter from my mother,
from your grandmother. -Really?

01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:28.560
Can I read it?

01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:38.800
Congratulations
for your brothers bar mitzvah

01:02:39.200 --> 01:02:42.320
I got your message, we are out..

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We are out of the house
most of the day.

01:02:48.160 --> 01:02:52.000
Do you read English
as well as you speak it?

01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:54.160
No.

01:02:55.480 --> 01:03:01.160
You can write back a letter
in English or Hebrew.

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Whichever is better for you.

01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.040
With love, your granny...

01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:13.280
It's so nice that she sent it to you.
-Yeah.

01:03:15.120 --> 01:03:16.760
Put it on for me?

01:03:21.680 --> 01:03:24.680
You're choking me.
Choking? -Not really.

01:03:37.120 --> 01:03:38.680
Come give me a hug.

01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:45.720
It makes me feel a little sad,
and happy.

01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:48.080
I'm happy that she sent it to you,

01:03:49.160 --> 01:03:51.800
and I'm sad.
-Are you crying?

01:03:54.240 --> 01:03:56.600
No, but I feel sad.

01:03:57.520 --> 01:03:58.840
Thanks.

01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:02.760
I want to meet her.
-Really?

01:04:03.640 --> 01:04:05.400
Maybe you will.

01:04:08.120 --> 01:04:11.000
Maybe you will some day. -Ya.

01:05:00.120 --> 01:05:02.320
Our Torah is beautiful.

01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.800
Child sexual abuse is not.

01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:10.560
It is frightening, ugly,
traumatic and damaging.

01:05:11.080 --> 01:05:14.800
My childhood was a
confusing mixture of both.

01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:20.040
Our entire dream to raise children
educated based on the Torah

01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:22.120
has shattered in our face.

01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:27.200
Our lives have changed 180 degrees,
and we were left entirely on our own.

01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:29.920
The denial by the rabbanim
who I approached for help

01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:31.560
and by my family,

01:05:31.680 --> 01:05:37.000
was actually more traumatic and
devastating than the sexual abuse.

01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:41.560
Our society must change. Our duty is
to accompany the ones who were hurt,

01:05:41.680 --> 01:05:45.640
lift them up, help them and
accept them as if they were flowers,

01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:47.320
not step on them.

01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:48.880
Thank you!

01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:57.080
You can't imagine how touched I am
to meet you.

01:05:57.240 --> 01:05:58.880
Me too.
I heard about you.

01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:02.640
Shana told me your story.
-A little, not everything, there is more.

01:06:02.720 --> 01:06:04.440
It seems so unreal.

01:06:09.600 --> 01:06:11.720
I feel that this is one family.

01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:14.160
Yes, that is how I feel too,
and that's why

01:06:14.240 --> 01:06:16.600
it was so important to me
that you meet each other.

01:06:18.080 --> 01:06:19.800
Thank you.
-I would like to hug you.

01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:20.880
Thank you.

01:06:21.520 --> 01:06:23.240
I appreciate you a lot.
-Thanks.

01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:50.400
- Faculty of Law -

01:07:08.160 --> 01:07:11.360
Genendy's story is told by her according
to her version based on her memories.

01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:14.240
The creator of the film shows
the shunning that Genendy experienced

01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.800
by her community as
a result of her speaking out

01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:20.320
and the secondary trauma she feels
the shunning had caused her.

01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:23.600
Genendy's Father: ““To me, this has been
all so painful that I just can't discuss it.”

01:07:23.680 --> 01:07:26.480
In regard to the allegations of others
who were abused he responds:

01:07:26.560 --> 01:07:28.800
There is nothing to it, zero.
I don't wish to discuss this.

01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:31.640
Speak to the Rabbanim. There is a Bais Din here
and should be done right according to the Torah.

01:07:31.720 --> 01:07:33.840
Genendy's sister: "The family
has nothing to say about my sister.

01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:36.040
As far as we are concerned,
Genendy hardly exists anymore,

01:07:36.040 --> 01:07:40.200
unless she recants her claims against the father
We believe Genendy is mentally unstable.

01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:42.720
The family's rabbi: “Genendy's accusations
were made known to police and social services.

01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:45.240
None of the psychologists she consulted
with took her seriously.

01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:47.960
At the time, I advised her siblings
to maintain contact and be kind.

01:07:48.040 --> 01:07:50.320
The therapist strongly recommended Genendy
to put her issues behind her and get on with her life.

01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:52.720
She refused, and only then did I advise
the family to break off contact with her.

01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:55.280
Sexual abuse is a serious issue,
and I take these allegations seriously.

01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:57.720
Morever, professionals are legally
obligated to report abuse to the authorities.

01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:02.440
This was done in this case and
we have taken action in other cases

01:08:02.560 --> 01:08:05.360
where action was warranted.
But not all allegations are true.

01:08:05.520 --> 01:08:07.840
A detective who investigated
other complaint about Genendy's father

01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:10.520
that was filed by parents in 1999:
"The investigation was dropped.

01:08:10.640 --> 01:08:12.560
We had sufficient material...
to place him under arrest

01:08:12.640 --> 01:08:14.120
(but) no one in the community
wanted to come forward.”

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The responses were given
to Phil Jacobs (City Paper 2014)

01:08:16.360 --> 01:08:18.120
Andrew Friedman (Jerusalem Post2013) and
Meyer Seewald J.C.W.2018 J.C.W. 2018