Four Films on Grief and Bereavement
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This four-part series profiles individuals who are struggling to deal with the often unexpected death of a loved one: a child, a parent, a spouse, or a sibling. Their thoughtful, courageous responses focus on dealing with the immediate impact of loss, on paths to healing, and on the ways that friends and family can help but sometimes don't. In sharing the pain of mourning, they explore universal experiences that will help others to begin healing.
Out of Order: Dealing with the Death of a Child (23 minutes): When children die before their parents, it seems a violation of the natural order of things. In this short documentary, three couples talk of what they've gone through since the recent deaths of their children through illness, accident, or suicide. They share the seemingly intolerable impact when they first found out, their reactions to the inappropriate comments and advice they received from friends and relatives and the isolation they felt when they needed to talk but couldn't find anyone who wanted to listen. In candid interviews they describe the impact on their relationships, and their search for meaning through religion, rituals of remembrance, and new ways of relating to others.
Dearly Loved: Dealing with the Death of a Parent (13 minutes): Three young adults talk frankly and movingly about experiencing the death of a parent. Leona, whose father died of an unexpected heart attack, describes how important it was for her to spend time alone with his body at the funeral home, yet she still has not fully come to terms with what happened. Neal was particularly close to his mother. In the first weeks after her death he felt little then he broke down, feeling inert, depressed, lacking in motivation. Carol Lee' family had to make the decision to withdraw life support for her dying father. She was unable to sleep for weeks, yet as the oldest, felt the expectation of her Caribbean culture that she should 'get over it,' and attend to the needs of the rest of her family.
Uncoupled: Dealing With the Death of a Spouse (24 minutes): In the aftermath of a spouse's death, people may feel that they don't know how to behave, or even to mourn properly. Alone for the first time in years, grieving spouses often feel that there is no one there to help them sort through this devastation. Within the weeks after the funeral, friends and family will go back to their normal lives, leaving the bereaved spouse isolated and alone, to figure out how to go on living without the one person they counted on. Four bereaved spouses explain what worked and did not work for them after their loss. Their candid and deeply personal responses will be supportive for anyone dealing with the death of a spouse. The program is chaptered for easier classroom use.
A Family Disrupted: Dealing with the Death of a Sibling (22 minutes): The death of a sibling is a profound experience. It represents the loss of a shared history, and an uncertain future without the cherished loved one. Lois, Jerry, and Claire share moving insights into how they and their families have coped with the loss. They describe what it's like to deal with friends and extended family members who don't share or may not want to engage in their sorrow and the inappropriate comments people often make. They acknowledge that the ways they preferred to mourn were at times in conflict with those of their parents, and they all reflect on the impact their sibling's death has had on their current family dynamics.
Citation
Main credits
Fountain, Fred (film producer)
Fountain, Fred (film director)
Other credits
Camerman/editor, Lawrie Edison.
Distributor subjects
Family Relations; Grief and Recovery; Psychology, Psychiatry, Social WorkKeywords
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[music]
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I remember I just collapsed on the floor.
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Like my knees just gave
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out I was just gone and my friend saying,
\"Are you okay, did you faint?\" I
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could hear everything but I
could not stand up. And I
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did contact the policeman. I left
the living room where he was
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and walked up stairs and got in Jeff\'s bed
but I don\'t know why did that. I don\'t,
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I don\'t but I did and I stay
there for two days basically.
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And she said you paced a lot,
and I think that\'s what I did
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for a day or two, ah, I haven\'t
no recollection really
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of it. Ah, there was no crying
or anything like that I was in
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a just absolute, shock I guess is the
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only way I could describe but uhm,
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but I was restless were its Chris was more.
Wanted to be at one place I
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just couldn\'t find the place. Then I just
felt like I went into the twilight zone
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and, ah, you just
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feel like you don\'t get. I kept
questioning, \"Are you sure, are you
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sure?\" You\'re just... you\'re in shock
and you don\'t wanna believe it.
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That disbelief went to holding on to
Debbie, because I, I just felt like
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now, despite what I\'m feeling, I
have to hold on to her because I
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was fearing for what her response would be.
I didn\'t know what it would do.
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In the Thursday evening I was around
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and, ah, he doesn\'t come home. And
we started to wonder then as to
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what, what is transparent and that
whole night I stayed awake, uhm, I
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could not sleep I was waiting for hearing the door
close, there is he. You hear the sound of his jeep
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rolling in into the driveway and you know
you\'ll anticipate that and it doesn\'t come
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about. Then in the morning you
see, ah, a police car parked up in
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front of your house - At eight o’clock in the
morning. - at eight o’clock in the morning.
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Yeah. And from previous
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employment that I had as a police officer, generally that\'s not
a very good sign when they are park in front of your place.
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[music]
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What I find most difficult and I
still find difficult is people that,
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that, ah, I know and that I
know, know Jeffrey and, ah,
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I know they understand everything, uhm,
what happened to us, in a, in a, historical
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sense but it’s something
that we have to talk about
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and ah, ah, either other peo...
Some a lot of people don\'t
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want to talk about it and perhaps I don\'t blame them cuz I can understand
why, uhm, but it’s hard when people don\'t, ah, acknowledge what\'s happened.
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It\'s
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hard when they don\'t. May ask you that simple
question, may... \"How, how are you doing?\"
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It doesn\'t have to be a big thing,
it’s almost at its acknowledgement
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that you\'ve been hurt very hard
and, ah, it\'s pretty tough. And
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literally I feel or I felt on, on
occasions difficult I couldn\'t carry on
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conversations because the other person wasn\'t
prepared to accept what, what were gone through.
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You know I think comments that you hear
and you hear them like, ah, you need to
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accept this, you need to get on
with things. And we\'re thinking,
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we don\'t know that we wanna get
on with life, let alone accepting
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anything. You don\'t know or we felt like
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we have no heart to live
and, uhm, to say do
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accept it and to move on
is, is very cruel because,
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uhm, you just don\'t know
why we are moving on.
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Uhm, somebody\'s pulled your
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heart out and they say, \"Move
on.\" And you say, \"But why?\" I...
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I have no motivation to move on so,
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somehow people you...
This being surrounded by
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understanding and maybe less
comments rather than more like
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less advice and, and more just thugs
when you\'re, when you\'re having no
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words left. I didn\'t think I would be
able to cope, I thought I am one of the
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rest so I don\'t know what that means. Maybe that means I thought
I was going crazy, I didn\'t think I was going to able to
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live. I didn\'t know what I
was gonna do about it but
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I thought I\'m dying... not one of the
people that can handle this. That
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just felt too horrible, I
just... I couldn\'t imagine that
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anybody ever had to deal
with anything like this.
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In the beginning, damn it, you can\'t even
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go into the supermarkets that you normally shop that. I couldn\'t
go to supermarket alone I had have somebody with me. I had to go-
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You had to go with the same and
different supermarket. - I had
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to go to a different supermarket. It\'s you...
Like I can\'t do anything I couldn\'t go to this
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health center, I felt
like I had a neon sign
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on me. saying that this
person is in pain and
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so it was... I didn\'t like it. It was
impossible to do anything for quite awhile
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and now I would say we are doing a lot like
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I think people look at us and think
we\'re fine, because were doing not
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nearly as much as we used to be but we
were always very active but we are, we are
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doing more and definitely I\'m
finding enjoyment in things
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which is surprising to me. Cuz I
didn\'t think I\'d be able say that.
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I have this analogy in my mind that
this whole experiences is like
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being on a jet liner at
30,000 feet and somebody
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kicks you out the door and your free falling
and your just in turmoil in your life.
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And your searching for somebody
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who is in that free fall, and
when you find them it’s like,
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\"Okay, what are we? What\'s happening
to us and what are we going to do?\"
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And you don\'t really need instructions
from the pilot, you need, somebody there
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who is with you in that. Running away,
it does not help, you need a safe haven,
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you need a soft place to fall, you need
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that couch to sleep on, that
person to talk to, to cry.
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You need... we have the
farm, the fresh air,
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the outdoors, that\'s what we
needed, that\'s what we did.
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[sil.]
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The big adjustments that
I had to go through is
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recognizing that my feeling that I was
going through as a father, were not
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necessarily the same feeling as it MJ
would have as a mother. Have times
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I wondered if I was really
grieving enough for Jodi,
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uhm, but I... I had a clear answer
and about a couple of months
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after we loss Jodi. Ah, I
was by myself and I was
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taking a load of grain to the mill
to have it rolled and for the first
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time, in a long time there was
no one else around and I wasn\'t
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responsible for anybody else. And I
was leveling this load of grain off
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and it just overwhelmed,
yeah, I just, I just
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fell to my knees and I
just felt the grief on me
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and, and I knew then that
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my feelings were there but in the
beginning and whenever there are
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family around and whenever is Debbie
is counting on me I had kept my
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guard up for them because I didn’t...
I wasn\'t free to just allow myself
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to collapsed. And it’s odd as it sounds I,
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I welcome that moment because
I wanted to know that in
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my soul and my heart that I had, I had
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wept for my daughter the way I felt.
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And, ah, I was an emotional moment
and yet it, it seem like it had to
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happened and then it was real to
me and, and I felt like Debbie,
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I\'m not gonna short circuit
this grief like, I am want
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Him in a way to feel the
depths of my loss because
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it is deep and I don\'t wanna see this
anything else and I would go through
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this as long as I need to, uhm, because I
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love Jodi. We share it very closely, but
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we share it that we... we
suffer it differently. And
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when I am up, Chris can be down and...
And there was nothing I can do I,
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it\'s up comin and think all know, I\'m up she\'s
not. So what do you do, you know and...
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And vice versa its happens and
it’s not a schedule, ah, they
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can pla... plan it and we can fix it. I
can see have people split up over this.
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Yes, it can. Because you do, you get in to
your own world of grieving and you become
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so centered around your own little
world, and you won\'t let anybody in,
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and you don\'t let your spouse in. That\'s right.
And we, we got... we were that point for a while.
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And then, you know, something you know, I remember
getting really mad at him because I was...
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I was trying to get him with John when his mad.
If you just get him to blow up and its fine and
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I kept thinking if I needle him, he\'ll blow
up and then maybe he\'ll see my point view or
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he will look at it differently and, and, but he was
just in his own little world and I could see him
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slowly do himself in. I mean
you know from either... if my
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pressure was going up it was under... not under
control, you know, and he was... you know, we...
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We\'re both actually drinking a bit too
much at that time. But that numb you,
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you know. So you are looking for the
things to not feel and that the
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calm it is, you can get into such
dysfunctionality, if you don\'t have
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good communication and trust,
you have to trust the other
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person.
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[music]
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Not knowing why is, is the
toughest part of suicide. I just...
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I can\'t explain it, I don\'t know whether a letter makes
it any different. We didn\'t get the letter, we didn\'t
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get any sign, we didn\'t get anything.
And I remember the other... another
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couple in our support group. They were fortunate
enough to have a letter and I believe...
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Like I don\'t know and I\'m not gonna speak for them but my...
in my feeling I would have a little bit more closing,
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I believe knowing why.
I\'ve met another parent
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recently that at the same thing happen
to her, it really can draw you into
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a form of mental illness I think
when you really, uhm, be labor
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at that point because you\'ll never
get an answer. And I think you\'ve
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got to be careful with that, I think
I\'ll be very careful with that. Tony\'s
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friends we out calling and say that they don\'t
believe it’s happened. And you have to be real with
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them because there may be going through
the same thing that Toni brought him to
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his decision, and you\'ve got to talk
about it so you just can\'t hide it.
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You have to be real with young people.
Just you... I remember I got on the, ah,
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train system here and I run
across on one of Tony\'s old
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girlfriend\'s and she said, \"And
how\'s Tony\'s doing?\" So here I am
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sitting in a, a train car with
approximately 85 people and maybe 20
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of them within hear... hears out the question
that she just asked, and I thinking how do I
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tell her about her ex-boyfriend, whose
I know she was very close with him
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and I know that he was in
love with, that he died.
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And I think, \"Oh, well, I can\'t take her off the
train cuz she got her young children with her now.\"
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And I had to tell her that
like, ah, so rocking.
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How do you live somebody with that kind of a statement
and just walk away from her when you get off at your
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station. And I\'m still beating
myself up to that happening,
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but these are things that happen.
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[music]
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Jodie\'s birthday was July 19th
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and, ah, we... I was dreading the day in a
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sense and then I decided,
ah, after counsel session
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to have the whole family there, and
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have a birthday party with angel
the fruit cake and we did that.
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I invited the whole family
and I decided that day
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would be the best day of the
year, the celebration of
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her life, the day she was born.
Why not celebrate
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that? When we decided at a
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moment to go outside and, ah, join
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hands and make a big
circle and raise our hands
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up and we all 20, 25 of us together
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around raise our hand up and
said, \"We love you Jodie.\" And
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it was your birthday
party and he was healing
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and the stars
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were out.
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We sent our wishes to heaven.
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In the next morning
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I felt love I hadn\'t felt
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love
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up until then I only felt so much pain.
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But
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I felt love
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I said
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to David that was the best
thing we could ever done.
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For Jodie, for the family,
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everybody was brought to
the next level of healing
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and we continue.
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Ritual I think is important and
for anybody going through this,
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you can disconnect from what
happened you need a time.
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You almost need a daily time when you connect
again. Whether we... if we travel somewhere,
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we take a travel candle and so
we, we light the candle, we
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always adjust pictures there in our room
when a few other little things that
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remind us at him. And the ritual is I,
I mean I guess that something to that
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I... you... when you think back on it.
That\'s always a comfortable
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place to go and God knows
you need to find of
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a comfortable placed to go and
when we do that with the candles.
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It heat, so you\'ll get little spark
for some reason you, you just
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relax a little more and you
feel better and so we do it
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religiously if I\'m away on business,
I do it myself in the hotel room,
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ah, I have... I take his
picture with me and same
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thing we do at home, I, I do it if
I\'m on the road, doesn\'t matter. And
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I don\'t know how long I will
continue to do that, uhm, but
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for now it, it, it, you...
It feels good when I do it.
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[music]
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I don\'t look at it as hope,
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I don\'t, I don\'t think
I\'m here to be without
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struggle. But I actually
thought that I was here to be
00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:04.999
without struggle and I thought if I stick the
candle and dipsy doodle then was nice enough
00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:09.999
and, and did all the right thing for him.
I could, I could be without a struggle.
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I don\'t think that\'s right. I
think part of life is a struggle
00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:19.999
and struggle is what brings
you along, and struggle is
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what teaches you. So I
think I have a better
00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:29.999
understanding of what, what
life is all about and,
00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:34.999
you know how I\'m gonna apply that
to the next whatever 20 or 30
00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:39.999
years. I think I feel better about
that now. It changes your life,
00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:44.999
considerably. Yeah. How you look at
things, how you listen to people.
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For me, ah, MJ is right when I was very
angry because I couldn\'t understand
00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:54.999
why. I lost my son and I
also lost a very good friend
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but I was very angry for the longest time.
Then I started
00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:04.999
changing and, ah, becoming... listening
to young people a little bit more. A
00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:09.999
young people like Usher in their 20\'s
or whatever they maybe. And uhm,
00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:14.999
and I would never ever have done there
before, you know, they were just
00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:19.999
other human beings in the world. And,
ah, where I... I\'m employed now, I work
00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:24.999
with almost 300 younger people and its... I
00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:29.999
enjoy it, you know. They all been different
things to me in my life and uhm, you know,
00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:34.999
they all have different issues that they go along
with, and you sit back and you listen to it,
00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:39.999
you know. And, ah, so it has changed me
that way. I can see why Jeffrey is not
00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:44.999
here but I\'m still here cuz I
still haven\'t learn a lot of the
00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:49.999
things that I realized now, he
knew and understood that. I...
00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:54.999
He made easy for us ah,
he, he was kinda like
00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:59.999
the glue you know between,
between the two of us and he can
00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:04.999
cross Chris\'s world and mine.
Ah, with this and... and
00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:09.999
he, he just made everything so easy for us. His gone because he
didn\'t need to learn a lot of the things and I think I still
00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:14.999
need to learn and I think
00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:19.999
its helping, helping me anyway
along the way. We took a lot of
00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:24.999
strength from uhm, attending mass,
00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:29.999
being encourage in that way the thought
00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:34.999
of everlasting life. You can be mad at God
00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:39.999
but it doesn\'t change things
00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:44.999
so there\'s the hope of everlasting life and
the hope that you\'ll see each other again.
00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:49.999
And that\'s where we have decided to
00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:54.999
put our, our thoughts.
It was very important to
00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:59.999
have that trust that there is
another side and... and we are
00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:04.999
ascending to that idea that there
were not just stop in here
00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:09.999
and you know in my darkest
00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:14.999
hours if, if I feel threaten, if I feel
anxiety in the middle of the night
00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:19.999
I\'d go back and look at things
Jodie had passed on to us
00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:24.999
that said you know in the end
of her life was a beautiful
00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:29.999
picture of God, a picture of love.
00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:34.999
And I say you know who
am I to question this.
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[music]
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[sil.]
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[music]
00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:19.999
Its hard to watch your parent die.
00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:28.000
[music] I was the only one in the room
00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:39.999
it\'s pretty tough but I got
to say things to her that I
00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:44.999
you know, you said everything
before she went, so
00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:49.999
that was nice. She was ah,
a real fighter like she
00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:54.999
there was time where I thought that
she was... that she couldn\'t go on and
00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:59.999
she, she went off or like another year.
I just come home from
00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:04.999
work and he called me to say that
00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:09.999
my Dad died he was, he was dead,
he had a heart attack my Mom
00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:14.999
found him. This really
like a bomb had gone off,
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:19.999
tough.
00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:24.999
And I, I couldn\'t believe it, I
just couldn\'t believe it. I just
00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:29.999
couldn\'t comprehend that, that had happen.
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:34.999
I remember very clearly flying
00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:39.999
home, and going to the funeral
home and spending an hour
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:44.999
in their alone with my Dad, having,
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:49.999
having that valuable time with him.
My father died
00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:54.999
four months ago of... we still don\'t even
really know the cause of death that he had
00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:59.999
Alzheimer’s. When his death occurred
we were all quite relieved,
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:04.999
I think for him because he
didn\'t have to go through
00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:09.999
the further deterioration that he had experience
though we knew he wouldn\'t have wanted
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:14.999
that. And then also just for us
knowing that he was now at peace.
00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.999
So he had a stroke of March at 12 a couple
of days after his 76 birthday nd when I got
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:24.999
a phone call my brother called and I kinda new
that he has coming in the hospital this time.
00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:29.999
So we made the decision to take him and I
support. On the 25th, it was about 2:30
00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:34.999
and we stayed them and
watch was it may sound,
00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:39.999
uhm, horrible to somebody ask but I
needed to see the finality of it.
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:48.000
[music]
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:54.999
So the first two weeks were just pretty good.
Like I went back to work and I was, you
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.999
know, feeling like that I could I call for
something’s and think I can actually get some stuff
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.999
done, you know. And then yeah, but
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:09.999
it was kinda the, ah, call me for
the storm when in the eye of the
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:14.999
storm, it\'s all the same. I basically
just didn\'t sleep for nine,
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:19.999
10 weeks. I went that long without
having eight hours to sleep.
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:24.999
And that my body didn\'t like that I
physically started of getting ill.
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:29.999
Uhm, concentration was terrible, it
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:34.999
took me 20 minutes to make a slice of toast.
Uhm, the simplest of task just didn\'t
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:39.999
work. It was uhm, complete,
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:44.999
just complete and despair and complete shock
just working around and not believing
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:49.999
that this is really real. That then... that
he can cry for days on and it’s... just
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:54.999
rolls into the other and this really happened,
is he really gone, is he really not here
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:59.999
anymore, not here in my Mom\'s house. His not coming
back, his thing are here but he is not here.
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.999
We feel him but his not here.
I think when he actually
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:09.999
did died there was, there was a relief
and there were a sense of... well
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:14.999
for me you know, maybe I need to be, maybe I\'m
not doing this right, maybe I\'m not grieving
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:19.999
as much as I should and somebody had
said, \"Well you know, if you have
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:24.999
really done a lot of your grief work
during the years of his illness.\"
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:29.999
And for me that was really quite
comforting like okay, I wasn\'t doing it
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:31.000
wrong. Maybe in the (inaudible)
00:27:31.001 --> 00:27:34.999
and the culture that I am from, (inaudible)
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:39.999
always expected to. Kinda step
out to the plate and let’s get
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.999
this done, and anger
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.999
Uhm, frustration,
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:54.999
I can\'t even cry. I just... wanna
work more, do what I have to do.
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:59.999
May the calls I had to call, dealt with corners
dealt with funeral home arrangement. I had to
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:04.999
think like that, I had to think like I was at
work. Or else I would not admit it to the first
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:09.999
24 and 48 hours. And then
afterwards I crashed but I had
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:14.999
to do it like that. I couldn\'t think
I really had a fog head I would
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:19.999
get attacks of emotions and just start
to break down and cry and its, uhm,
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:24.999
and I, I wasn\'t enjoying a lot
like I didn\'t have the motivation
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:29.999
to do anything. You can\'t
anticipate what you gonna feel or,
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:34.999
uhm, really prepare for it like you may
think you know how you\'re going to react.
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:39.999
But when it actually happens it
could be totally different and for
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:44.999
me whose, I\'m kind of a person who
likes to be in control and kinda
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:49.999
know what, what to expect and
so because I didn\'t really
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:54.999
understand what I was going through out
time I think I made that a little bit more
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.999
uncomfortable for me. I think what I had
learned with the grief everyone says
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:04.999
it’s a process, and it\'s a circle and, and you can go
back. You can look forward and you can go back and
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:09.999
go for it. I don\'t think they... I think
it is a zigzag. Your all over the
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:14.999
place, I mean you can be civil,
you’re like all over the place and,
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.999
and I think society says that\'s wrong
and it’s not. I think you feel like
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:24.999
your losing your mind because you cannot figure
out why your all over the place. And that well
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:29.999
I, I should be passes, my grief
should be moving on the next step and
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:34.999
I don\'t think people realized that grief is
all those cycles and one, and that\'s normal.
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:43.000
[music]
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:49.999
No one wants to talk about it, it\'s not very open,
it’s very quiet and people you know, like ah,
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.999
shove it under the rag or still dealing with that, you
know like. So I didn\'t know anything this is the way
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.999
I always was. You know, you kinda just, you know,
he died, you know, people died. Like it\'s not
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.999
set up to our society, it’s not set up to
deal with it. I don\'t think like people are
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:09.999
comfortable talking about it and they don\'t know
how to talk about it. And I have a picture with me
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.999
of Dad and I have my things with me and I
was just in a complete state of shock.
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.999
And I was crying my eyes out at the airport
with every room full of people and
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:24.999
no one said a word. Well ah, no one.
Nobody,
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:29.999
said a word. And I still think to this,
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:34.999
to this day this part of understanding
people don\'t know what to do when
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:39.999
they don\'t know how you react to you, and
don\'t know what to say. So thay say nothing.
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.999
Having people say it’s God\'s way,
it’s not helpful. I am spiritual
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.999
but do have people say that? Not a
smart thing to say. Things such as
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:54.999
\"Oh, is... it was your Dad,
it was okay, you know, he...
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:59.999
His meant for him to go before you. \" Uhm,
comments like that, \" Well it’s okay, you know.
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:04.999
Its he\'s time.\" Or you know kind of
slighting it because he was parent
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:09.999
ah, and not a child or ah, I guess I
just about to diminish in that way,
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:14.999
that we are trying to diminish the loss,
because to me I felt that it was a loss no
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:19.999
matter how it happen or, or who it
was, or what age the person was.
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:28.000
[music] It’s not the idea that goes
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.999
by I don\'t think that it something that my Mom. The idea
of my Mom would like her. I think about my Mom every day,
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:39.999
if not you know 10 times a day. And
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:44.999
I really ah, I think for what would she
say, what would she do. And I really...
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:49.999
I think try a maybe carry
on her, I don\'t know,
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:54.999
be more like her. To some extent
like she was a very, very
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:59.999
kind person and really I was giving in
she was just wonderful, so I\'d like
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.999
that the pass all along and I still do
a lot of things that she used to do
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:09.999
and the things we do together and then brings
me comfort too. We talked about Dad and we
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.999
talked about \"Oh, grand boat(ph), he would have really
like this. And you know remember when he built sand
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.999
castles with the girls when they were
little. So there was a lot of what I call,
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:24.999
uhm, memory embraces, and that\'s
what my term for when, when things
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:29.999
come up that our, uhm, like a loving
memory of the person who died.
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:34.999
And we were able to just talk about that and
sometimes we cried and sometimes we laughed
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.999
but it was all okay. And it was really
I think it was really healthy for
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:44.999
my nieces to be able to see my
Mom and my sister and I deal
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:49.999
with this as well and to invite them into
the... that whole process, they weren\'t
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:54.999
uhm, excluded from that, from the
tears, and the laughter, and
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:59.999
the a... the anger that we have about
his illness. Everywhere was a trigger
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:04.999
you know, someone\'s hand that look like Dad.
Or some... someone fishing that look like Dad
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:09.999
or you know, someone in the store that
look like Dad walking away or, uhm,
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.999
those kinds of things. And I think when can I get
this to stop? Is it always gonna be like this?
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.999
We\'re gonna see him everywhere. For
my young age I would bake with my
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.999
Mom and I don\'t know, it\'s gonna be silly. My Dad would want
me to go work in the shop or something and I\'d be like,
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.999
\"You know, I think Mommy need some
help with some cookies.\" Or, ah,
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.999
you know help for the supper.
So, ah, I... that something
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:39.999
that, ah, I like to do. I \'ve always said
that I\'m my father\'s daughter. We are
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.999
a lot alike. Like our thinking and
I, I do a lot of helping him build
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.999
the boat like he built in our backyard, so I
was the one out there helping them with the
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:54.999
hammering and welding and all
those kinds of things. And
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:59.999
so, that\'s... I think that\'s probably
the biggest role that I have
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:04.999
is being his daughter.
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.999
There\'s been for us little symbol if could,
uhm, doing before he died i can\'t see
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.999
this bunches of butterflies, white
butterflies just coming out my car or
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:19.999
when I was walking in a, just like
a groups of white butterflies And
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:24.999
then when he died we all noticed
a single butterfly with kind of
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:29.999
joy on the journey wherever we\'re getting out
of the car. Where go like to the funeral home,
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.999
where at the cemetery, was there always like
eight white butterfly sort of joining us.
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:39.999
You know, well that\'s Dad saying
hello and you know just making,
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:44.999
making letting us know that he is okay.
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:53.000
[music] I remember going back to work
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:59.999
and some day\'s just sitting in there and I
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.999
remember crying when whole day
from eight to five ah, in there.
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:09.999
And ah, thinking what am I doing
you know, but I yeah, and
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.999
I just felt I need to just continue with my
life the best I could. When I look back now
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.999
I wish that I had taken more time.
So coming back to work was really,
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.999
was really therapeutic for me.
And I realized after
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:29.999
probably about three months uhm,
I thought, \"Oh, my goodness I,
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:34.999
I think I sort of been on
slow motion in a way and
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:39.999
I thought I was going to work I mean, I know I
going to, work. I thought I was doing the work
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.999
as I had before and then I
realized I don\'t think I was
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.999
and I think my brain wasn\'t
as working as well as
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:54.999
it have prior to my Dad\'s death but I
wasn\'t really aware of that. The people
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.999
that I worked at with that the time were
tremendously supportive and understanding of the
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:04.999
difficulty that I was going through,
uhm, after the lost of my Dad.
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:09.999
Uhm, whether it was just a hug or a kind
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.999
word or you know, let\'s
go out for lunch or any
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:19.999
little thing like that were such tremendously
meaningful experience. Or making a card
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.999
when el... elderly gentlemen
uhm, made special card for me
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:29.999
and, uhm, you know just... just coming to say, \"Hello.\"
And, \"How are you and its everything you need.\"
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.999
Uhm, was tremendously helpful
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.999
and kind. You know, everybody\'s grief is
different but I wanna tell you that its
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.999
hard and its normal.
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:49.999
Our society is not set up to deal with it, you probably
find that a lot of people... you\'re maybe walking in the
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.999
room, people don\'t know how to deal with it,. They will
be uncomfortable towards you, you\'ll be uncomfortable
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:59.999
they will maybe say a few things, maybe not
say anything at all. And then maybe kind of
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:04.999
avoid you, uhm, it can be really, really
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:09.999
awkward. It makes you feeling
and more isolated, uhm, but its
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.999
normal and you have to talk about it.
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:23.000
[music] I found that extremely
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.999
difficult to reenter anything family.
So I remember at
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:39.999
Thanksgiving, it\'s like we\'re going out to a restaurant.
I am so not sitting down at the table and having a
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:44.999
Thanksgiving dinner. And even
Christmas I think I hyperventilated
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.999
about Christmas for weeks. The
idea of Christmas, I didn\'t
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:54.999
care less, I would have care less. If I didn\'t have my kids, there
would have nothing up for Christmas. There would have been no trees,
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:59.999
there would have been no decorations, that thing. And
I think i held off until on 23rd before I physically
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:04.999
decorated the house because I knew
that was important to my kids.
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:09.999
Before I like, it was usually when I go home I\'ll
be talking with my Mom cuz she was the one that
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.000
was ill. I talk to my Dad for few minutes how
things go on and good, good. But now (inaudible)
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.999
of longer conversation with my dad maybe those
conversation that he would had with my Mom
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:24.999
to so. You know, sometimes they
get tired of it and I\'m just
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.999
like you know, I kinda wanna go but then I
realized you know he got something’s to say.
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.999
My sister, my Mom and I are so
completely different it’s really quite
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:39.999
remarkable and what I think was really
wonderful is that we could talk about
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:44.999
our own, our own beliefs system
on what Dad believe and,
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:49.999
and share that... share the
differences but also find the
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:54.999
similarities. A big part of me was understanding
my brother, my sister and how I...
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:59.999
I could understand that we all grive in different
ways and just because I couldn’t talk about certain
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.999
things or, or I thought they should be doing more
of my Mom. They were grieving in their own way and,
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:09.999
and maybe there is more able to do certain things are
look at certain things or help Mom with certain things
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.999
because they were unable to do that. And that
gave me great uhm, depth of understanding
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.999
to, to realized that... that we all
grieve in different ways. I read
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:24.999
ah, an article the other day and it
talked about how there really is no
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:29.999
one grief process just like there
really is no one way... no one
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.999
pattern on how you love someone that your love someone
is you need just as how your grief for someone
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:39.999
is unique. So honor
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:44.999
that and don\'t expect that your, that
your process is gonna be the same as
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:49.999
anyone else\'s and for
me it was kind of about
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:54.999
realizing what I needed to do, and realizing
what my Mom and my sister needed to do.
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:59.999
And that was all okay. I didn\'t
have to be the same as them or I
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.999
didn\'t have to expect that they will be the same
as me but just let everyone have the freedom
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:09.999
to do it their own way and, and to
understand that their doing what they need
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:14.999
to do. And I think if we can
all be easier on ourselves
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.999
and I knows who are grieving
with us and alongside us.
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:24.999
Then that\'s a really wonderful way to show our own
love for them. And for the person whose gone.
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:33.000
[music]
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.999
[music]
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:43.000
[sil.]
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:53.000
[music] It was May 10th
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:24.999
that my husband Marcel died quite
suddenly of a brain aneurism.
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:29.999
And I think few with all the
only thing that I was clear
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.999
is that I had to do what Marcel
had asked me to do when he was
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:39.999
dying. Apart from that I felt very
numb and it was used your left
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.999
foot, used your right foot,
I, I just followed what
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.999
anybody had to say I don\'t remember
much of it. I lost my wife in a traffic
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.999
accidents about eight months ago.
Uhm, come along from work
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:59.999
late at night, uhm, there\'s question
on how the accident happened but
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.999
in my mind I pretty all know that.
She was in a rush,
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:09.999
paid for it or were paying for it
whichever way your wanna word it.
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:14.999
Ah, my wife, ah, Brenda passed away March
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:19.999
13th, she had a very long and
difficult illness ah, many, many
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:24.999
years. So she had been in
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:29.999
hospital for almost a year
prior to her passing.
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:34.999
In many ways,
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:39.999
ah, it was a blessing. My
husband died, uhm, 13th months
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:44.999
ago, uhm, 13 months and six days.
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.999
Uhm,
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:54.999
we were married for... we were married actually
for 20 years but we were together for almost 25.
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:59.999
He was only sick for five weeks
before he died, so it was
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:04.999
unexpected. When she
passed away in a hospital
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:09.999
it was difficult in the sense
because I had to tell the
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.999
people and the doctors and
nurses to stop care and
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.999
let her go. That was a tough thing to do,
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:24.999
I don\'t wish I don\'t anyone. The
hardest thing for me in all this has
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.999
been ah, that we didn\'t get
to say goodbye. I had a
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.999
09:30, at night phone calls telling me the truth
on way back, back to the, to the house and
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:39.999
I was mad because she was so late
and that\'s one of those whatever
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:44.999
kind of thing and hang up the phone
and that was how we finished
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.999
our life.
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:58.000
[music] On one level I knew
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.999
that he was dead and with the true all emotions
that you go through. The mo... physical
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:09.999
motions of preparing and
I remember being in a
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:14.999
days uhm, I don\'t think I really
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.999
started to fully accept his death
probably for three months.
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:24.999
I know I was, I was crying a lot, I was
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:29.999
uncontrollable that way. Many, many times
I\'d just be crying. Uhm, in my case
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:34.999
I went back to work well in fact to work the
following day cuz what were we gonna do,
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:39.999
sitting around and watch the clock or round and round
well, you know there\'s people hanging around the house.
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:44.999
At least for the two or three hours I went in
the work the following day, I got focus on
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:49.999
something besides what
happened back home. And
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.999
I remember feeling I didn\'t want
to see anybody like a family.
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:59.999
Uhm, when somebody would call I
didn\'t wanna to answer the phone
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:04.999
I just wanted to isolate
myself at home with the
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:09.999
children and that went on for
a quite a while. We find it
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.999
quickly that everybody leads their own life, you
find out quickly who your true friends are.
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.999
People that come around and say hello
or just come around and be there
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:24.999
or knock on the door and say, hear
you suffer. Other people seemed to
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:29.999
fade away and for whatever reason
maybe they don\'t know or don\'t
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:34.999
understand what to do or what to say so
they stay away. There are certain things
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:39.999
you can\'t talk to your buddies about those are things that
you gonna only talk to your wife about and of course without
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:44.999
her being there, what do you do?
In my case she was my
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.999
best friend and she was my support.
I got through
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:54.999
those first day after his death one
day at a time. I couldn\'t think
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:59.999
I got through the morning,
and I got through the night,
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.999
one day at a time. Sometimes
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:09.999
was in our talking about.
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:18.000
[music]
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:24.999
After the funeral was over
from, from many people
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:29.999
it’s easy for them to
turn around and move on.
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:34.999
And I hear... even two weeks after my
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:39.999
husband’s death people were saying, \"You
have to just pick up and move on, your still
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:44.999
young woman, I\'m sure
you\'ll need somebody.\"
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:49.999
I hadn\'t even accepted that he was dead.
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:54.999
There were very many scenarios were people
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:59.999
would come up and say, \"You know, don\'t
worry things are gonna get better
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:04.999
uhm, be strong.\"
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:09.999
All those cliché well.
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:14.999
I know they meant well,
I know, I, I found that
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.999
very annoying, and I found that very
unhelpful in the sense that they were
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:24.999
trying to say or do something
to ease pain, ease
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:33.000
grief and none of that help. After Marcel died I leaned
enough a lot on my children. In their love for me,
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:39.999
they attempted to do everything they
could that it would make a little
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:44.999
easier for me. And at first
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:49.999
I was so grateful for that,
but as time going... went
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:54.999
on I care for that less
and less because I found
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:59.999
out about myself that I
want to be independent
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:04.999
and its, its being a little
test the everyone since a while
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:09.999
in that way and I feel if ever
I\'m going to complete this
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:14.999
journey then I had to take
charge of my own life.
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.999
It\'s amazing what some of the statements that
people say and how, how little they, they
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:24.999
help. The one that kills me all the time
is of course, uhm, while you had her
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:29.999
just length of time that\'s one. The other one is
well you can now live through your kids. Well
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.999
I\'m not sure about everyone but in my case I
love my children but I don\'t live through my
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:39.999
children, were she stopped then
I began over the 24 years is
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:44.999
really become fussy so uhm, trying to find
that boundary is a little bit difficult
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.999
now. But uhm, that\'s who I lived
through, so and that\'s was
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:54.999
who we\'ve... or how we had plan
to live the rest of our lives.
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:59.999
Christmas was very, very
difficult, Mel had die in July,
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.999
so it six months. Uhm, because
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:09.999
my children were not my husband\'s
children, my eldest daughter
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:14.999
could not understand my grief at all.
And for
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:19.999
them six months have passed, for me it
was the very first Christmas without my
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:24.999
husband and even my parents
could not relate to
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:29.999
how much pain I was
experiencing and I had ah,
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.999
I found myself trying to put on a happy face,
cuz I didn\'t wanna \'ruin\" anybody else\'s
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:39.999
Christmas.
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:44.999
My message to people there
specially my man in
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.999
suits that, uhm, all those
guards and those defenses
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:54.999
uhm, they all serve a purpose and you need them at
times that there are times when you have to let him go
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:59.999
and if you lock \'em up
they just eat at you.
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:04.999
I always want to talk about Marcel
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:09.999
how it happened. I told that story
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:14.999
over and over and over to many people
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:19.999
and, ah, sometimes I wonder if I was
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:24.999
losing it but as I look
back I think that was
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:29.999
helpful I don\'t have to do that now.
But, uhm,
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.999
that was helpful at that time. It
would have been so helpful if,
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:39.999
if more people would have reached out to me and
that would have included stopping on it because
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:44.999
stopping in unexpectedly. Most of the time
I said I wanted to be alone but truth
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:49.999
is I needed people. What
did help was just to
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:54.999
have somebody with you
have somebody close by,
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:59.999
maybe someone to share in
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:04.999
time and space with you but
necessarily doing anything or
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:09.999
talking to you saying, \"What can I do?\"
They... it would just there. Nobody
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:14.999
knew how to respond me and one person said, \"I\'ll
be sure that... I\'ll be sure we get out together
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:19.999
for lunch.\" I never heard from him.
Another one said I, I would gone out
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:24.999
for lunch with all you have to do is call.
What I learned from that experience
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:29.999
was people expect the griever
to reach out I couldn\'t reach
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.999
out. And here I was after four months finally
having the courage to reach out and ask for help.
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:39.999
And again none of these people have
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:44.999
lost a spouse they did
not understand and so I
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.999
learned you don\'t make the griever work.
When people offered it
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:54.999
is genuine in lot of cases they
may not know what you need
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:59.999
and you have to tell them that they\'re
not gonna figure out on their own. And I
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.999
literally had ah, tell them in
lot of cases, ah, just because
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:09.999
they didn\'t get it or they
didn \'t figure it out, uhm,
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:14.999
and it wasn\'t because the... they weren\'t
willing going to go there, it was because
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:19.999
they just... there not in the same place as you are so they
don\'t have the ability that to understand what you\'re,
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:24.999
what you\'re asking so you need to
actually ask for help. The only thing
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:29.999
that did help was, uhm, I followed
the list from the hospital
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:34.999
where they gave you a list to do and you...
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:39.999
I... I\'m a person where I can be very discipline
and because of that I just follow the
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:44.999
list and took action and did those
thing as a checklist so one after
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.999
another and that, that was helpful. I
made sure that I get a way and take a
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:54.999
break like a way out the city, uhm,
I go for walks, I got myself a
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:59.999
dog and that was one of the best thing
I did for me is I needed something
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:04.999
to love when I went home.
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:13.000
[music]
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:19.999
The relationships that you
have with people, uhm,
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:24.999
whether it\'s at work or whether
it\'s at home ah, socially and that
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:29.999
they do change. Uhm,
after being for 25 years
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:34.999
having to adjust to being single,
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:39.999
number one in my age, I\'m in my early
fifties I never in a million years
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:44.999
expected to be a widow. We had
all these plans, all this
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:49.999
dreams, and all the sudden I found
myself plan less and dreamless.
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:54.999
As the months went by
00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:59.999
I remember that some happy and
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.999
mediate pain that you have with the lost
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:09.999
it was being replaced by
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:14.999
what I call monotony on emptiness. It
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.999
just never left you, it was
the same day after day.
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:24.999
And at times that emptiness
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:29.999
would just swallow you. As a
person that\'s alone all of the
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:34.999
sudden doors aren\'t quite open to you
anymore people don\'t how to handle a single
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:39.999
person or an older person that you as
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:44.999
a couple were always involve in.
In my social circle
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:49.999
people had a hard time
getting a... approaching me
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:54.999
especially our friends, that we are friends
because my husband and I were couple.
00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:59.999
The couples didn\'t get a hold on me,
didn\'t contact me, didn\'t invite over.
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:04.999
They, they are had...
they are having a hard
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:09.999
time accepting that Mel and I are no
longer a couple, that there is no Mel.
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:14.999
In my case my social life is been
substantially on hold and the reason is as if
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:19.999
that you\'re trying to keep some normal scene
for your kids. So it\'s tough to join a club,
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:24.999
it\'s tough to, to get in any kind of groups
that you can interact with adults because
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:29.999
you can commit to anything because well tonight
my kids has skating or they\'ve got hockey or
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:34.999
they\'ve got whatever. That\'s the end of... I probably
got to work on the most and gets some kind of
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:39.999
personal social life. Just to be able to do
something other than sit around the house cuz
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:44.999
at night after the kids are in bed the kids.
It\'s a little bit quite and little bit lonely.
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:49.999
I have grandchildren who have asked me,
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:54.999
\"Grandma would you be
always married to grandpa?\"
00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:59.999
And I said, \"Yes I want always be married
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:04.999
to grandpa.\" I feel that
I am very married to
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:09.999
grandpa and I know when
I put his wedding band
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:14.999
on a finger next to mine it is the sign
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:19.999
that Marcel is married
to me and I am married
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:24.999
to him and that will be always.
At this time right
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:29.999
now, yeah, I\'m still married to Laura.
She may not be here but I\'m still here
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:34.999
and I still said the words, ah,
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:39.999
but I will expect it down the road
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:44.999
that will, that will change, I
sure hope it doesn\'t anyway.
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:49.999
It’s a long time to live all by yourself.
I took off
00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:54.999
my wedding ring shortly after Mel died and
00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:59.999
it was really a difficult decision
to make, to take off my ring and I
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:04.999
took it off because every time
I look at my finger I cried,
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:09.999
and I, I took off my ring not
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:14.999
because I didn\'t wanna be married
anymore simply because it was so
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:19.999
painful to see it on my finger. So
for me taking it off was a choice of
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:24.999
a kind of survival technique at that time.
00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:33.000
[music]
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:44.999
I wanted to have a closets
cleaned out of Marcel\'s things.
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.999
I told my daughter I have
to do this so come with me
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:54.999
and, ah, she lead me to the bedroom door
00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:59.999
and I fainted.
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:04.999
It was so hard
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:09.999
but when I came
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:14.999
to I still wanted to do that
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:19.999
so, uhm, children came with
me and they packed Marcel\'s
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:24.999
cloths. And the question is what do you do with
all of these momentous? Well some I\'ve kept
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:29.999
and I\'ve just packaged up this other clothing knowing
that there gonna go to the salvation army and
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:34.999
go to the other organization that can used them
because that\'s what\'s Mel would want and I tried
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:39.999
to do it at six months. I tried to do it nine
months I was able to do it at 13th months
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:44.999
it was just time.
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:49.999
But I didn\'t have that feeling inside
me that I need to keep everything.
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:54.999
All that I felt from Marcel
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:59.999
was in my heart and would remain there.
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.999
Uhm, Brenda and I talked
about those type of things
01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:09.999
about her belongings. What to
do with her cloths ah, her
01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:14.999
things uhm, and she did designate that
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:19.999
most of her clothing and different
things would go to her sisters, go
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:24.999
to my sister. We did talked
about things like that
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:29.999
and I found that very helpful, very
useful I would really recommend
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:34.999
that because otherwise your lost at what
you do with this world of her things.
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:43.000
[music] There is days when you\'d... you
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:54.999
come home and you go, you know, you
didn\'t even think of Laura or not, not
01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:59.999
the way you were before. And then you
get, then there\'s that little voice
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:04.999
in the back of my heads saying, \"You\'ll forgotten her.\"
But I\'ll never forget Laura sometimes I picked it up
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:09.999
and things I see the kids do of course uhm, there\'s
certain characteristics that each one of them has it,
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:14.999
come has it come directly from her.
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:19.999
At the end of the year after Marcel died
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:24.999
a tree was planted in Fish Creek Park
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:29.999
in his memory and it’s a good feeling
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:34.999
to see something that\'s alive
that is Marcel because he was
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:39.999
so alive. She left a
love legacy, she left a
01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:44.999
series of over forty five picture
albums of our life together.
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:49.999
A lot of her friends because they knew her
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:54.999
passion for gardening and for
shrubs and flowers, they brought
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:59.999
flowers and we planted them around
the house, around the area so
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:04.999
I\'m staying connected by keeping
those plants watered and alive.
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:09.999
She also put together this friendship table
cloth that any kind people came to our
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:14.999
home and had dinner with us, had a meal with
us. We had them sign on the table cloth
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:19.999
and we had probably 30 years
of that so we have people
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:24.999
signatures there drawing and she
would crochet that so we have those
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:29.999
table cloths and those memories and those friends
and people that came and visit us from all over the
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.999
world. So looking back there\'s a lot
of connections that she left me.
01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:37.999
I spent them... the day with (inaudible)
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:39.999
I was fed up, last thing I
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:44.999
wanted to do was buy a house
and... but I just said
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:49.999
I\'ll gonna get this townhouse. Let\'s just hurry up and
get over with, she said look at one more house with me.
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:54.999
And I... we went to this house and would draw...
I... I walked out the stairs thinking oh,
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:59.999
this is better than I thought. And I went up, and I went
down, and when I went up and I stood in the middle of
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:04.999
this house and I said Mel
is this the one and I heard
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:09.999
Yes, there\'s no question in my mind
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:14.999
that he has stayed connected with me.
Right now we have a... the
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:19.999
relationship is still there. It’s not
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:24.999
what it was, its not what it will end up
being but in somewhere in our transition.
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:33.000
[music] What direction and what advice
would she give me I know right of the path
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:39.999
the first thing she say would be the same thing that I would
say. Cuz as if, if I have made it to pass away is, you know,
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:44.999
get on with your life
and, and enjoy life. Uhm,
01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:49.999
don\'t get lock up in depression and
sadness and all the rest of the stuff
01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:54.999
cuz that wouldn\'t be
what she ever want. Uhm,
01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:59.999
on the other hand, uhm, easy
to say much harder to do.
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:04.999
And I have change a lot of
things around our home and
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:09.999
yard since Marcel died and sometimes
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:14.999
I just have to talk him and tell I\'m sorry
I had to cut a lot of branches off this
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:19.999
fruit tree and uhm, it
was both healing for me
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:24.999
and I have this feeling Marcel would say
that\'s good, and if that makes you feel good
01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:29.999
that\'s good.
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:34.999
Ah, I think if Brenda was here
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:39.999
she just want me to be happy.
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:44.999
Try and to stay healthy
and be happy that\' s all.
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:49.999
People had kept saying
to me you know, move on
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:54.999
you have to... you know you, have to have
closure and what I learn is there is no closure
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:59.999
but you turn a page and so
this is the story of my life
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.999
this is one of the chapters and
until the day I die the book won\'t
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:09.999
be close they won\'t be closure
but I\'ve turn the page.
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:18.000
[music]
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:19.999
[sil.]
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:28.000
[music]
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:34.999
I think we just all went
into a complete shock.
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:43.000
[music]
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:04.999
During the surgery there was some blood
01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:09.999
but they were monitoring
it they thought and in the
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:14.999
end uhm, there was too much
blood loss and her heart stop
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:19.999
and they weren\'t able
to get a revive again.
01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:24.999
He basically went in to some water
that had a very strong current and
01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:29.999
he lost his grip and the water took him.
01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:34.999
Somebody invited him to go
01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:39.999
on a sail boat in between,
uhm, Amsterdam, in
01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:41.000
Holland and (inaudible)
01:07:41.001 --> 01:07:44.999
which is in Southern England his boat
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:49.999
basically just never arrived. So we\'re left
us a lot of question us to what happens
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:54.999
still. When I got the news
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:59.999
I can\'t really put into words
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:04.999
what kind of like level of
devastation it was. In my mind
01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:09.999
I just couldn’t accept the fact that she
had passed away until I saw her body.
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:14.999
Till did they take me to see her
01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:19.999
and then it hit me. She was still warm
01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:24.999
and when I touch her
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:29.999
I just couldn\'t believe it. Well my Dad
on the phone, my sister is helping
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:34.999
with my Mom was is pretty much no
control at this point and then
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:39.999
I look at my Dad and I see something on
his face that I\'ve never seen before.
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:44.999
It was this... it was like
life just left his face
01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:49.999
and it was this a point of sadness that
I\'ve never seen on him, and when I
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:54.999
saw it I got really scared.
01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:59.999
Obviously we\'ve been told that he 80%
chance that he was alive and he\'d be found
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:04.999
there is just a small mishap that had
happened and then gradually we were
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:09.999
down now 60, 40, 20 and then
01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:14.999
there was really no hope that he was alive.
And at that point I
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:19.999
think shock just complete numbness sit in.
I wanted to be alone in
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:24.999
my grief I didn\'t see anyone
having around me and, ah,
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:29.999
I am... I lived alone so I headed home
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:34.999
and once I got home its started that, that
01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:39.999
complete break down the tears,
I know... I couldn\'t stop them,
01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:44.999
I had the shakes, I was cold,
I got into bed and, ah, and I
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:49.999
just shock and cried. I don\'t know how
he died, why he died I don\'t believe
01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:54.999
what they\'re telling me. I\'m so
01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:59.999
tired people keep coming in,
I can barely see cuz my I\'m
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.999
breaking down all the time where
I just can do anything excepts
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:09.999
cry. And seeing my parent like in such a
01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:14.999
bad shape. It doesn\'t...
It’s so hard to see that.
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:19.999
[sil.]
01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:24.999
My Mom probably was the most
01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:29.999
fragile of all us. She\'s not, not the
healthiest person to begin with and this just
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:34.999
devastated her, she had
a hard time getting up,
01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:39.999
carrying on with everyday activities
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:44.999
gradually that came back and I think
with it some o f her healing came much...
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:49.999
Actually she was to care for me as...
As sort of the child we come home and
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:54.999
she still... she still had me and so she was, ah,
she was an excellent support me and that regard and
01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:59.999
hopefully vice versa, I don\'t know. Uhm,
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:04.999
my father really
01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:09.999
uhm, he’s a traditional man.
He didn\'t believe in showing
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:14.999
grief certainly he been pretty adamant
that we, we wouldn\'t cry or show
01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:19.999
emotion publically during either of
the memorial services for Chris.
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:24.999
And, and that pretty much carried
on, he felts that I, I think
01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:29.999
he felt he was so closed to
breaking apart themselves
01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:34.999
that if he saw somebody else
do it that would be the end.
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:39.999
The question you get more than anything
else is, \"How are you, how you doing?\" You
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:44.999
don\'t even wanna answer, I don\'t wanna
talk to them what do you want me to say
01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:49.999
to you. You can\'t... most
people there thank God
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.999
didn’t understand what I was going through, a lot of my friends,
a lot of my brother\'s friends were come through the house
01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:59.999
I was friends of most of my brothers friends it
was good to see that because they were people
01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:04.999
that could relate to my brother
better in my own friends could. And
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:09.999
they were close me so I loved... I was happy that they
were there but I hated the how are doing question
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:14.999
because you know I can
either lie to you or I could
01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:19.999
cry cuz I can\'t talk. Don\'t ask
me this right now I don\'t like
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:24.999
the question and that questions
is... it\'s a stupid question.
01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:29.999
Some of our closest family
friends as well, I guess that
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:34.999
they see... they keep it... it wasn\'t that they weren’t there
but they didn\'t wanna listen they didn\'t actually wanna
01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:39.999
engage with it and so they
would come and buzzle around
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:44.999
and leave very quickly and it was almost
like a whirlwind, whirlwind coming through
01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:49.999
our lives as opposed to bringing the
peace and security and stability
01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:54.999
we wanted, uhm. The funeral
01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:59.999
itself was difficult, uhm,
01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:04.999
it was ah, something that
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:09.999
I guess from years specially difficult
because six months before Shirley
01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:14.999
died, uhm, our mother had passed away
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:19.999
and this was bringing
memories of Shirley and I
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:24.999
being there for our mother\'s funeral
01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:29.999
and I didn\'t realized that six months after
01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:34.999
burying my mother that I
would be burying my sister.
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:39.999
[music] My
01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:44.999
Mom she didn\'t get better she was pretty much
battered and she couldn\'t get on the bed
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:49.999
ever she spent all day in there. And then she
cried literally all day, you know we take turns
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:54.999
trying to help my Mom. Seeing her how
much pain that adds to the pain that
01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:59.999
were in. At the end after
the service of the
01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:04.999
grave I was the last to leave
and I didn\'t want to live.
01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:09.999
I felt I was leaving her
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:14.999
behind but of course want had to go
01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:19.999
so I, am, again was invited to go back
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:24.999
with everyone to meet with some people at the
house who were from other town that were
01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:29.999
coming but I really didn\'t want to do
so I didn\'t and I decided I needed to
01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:34.999
be alone and I think that\'s me as a person
01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:39.999
I just wanted to grieve by myself.
01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:48.000
[music] So my relationship
with my parents is
01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:54.999
change pretty dramatically
since Chris\'s death.
01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:59.999
Uhm, I think
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:04.999
my Mom particularly its... its
affected her greatly she\'s lost
01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:09.999
actually two kids now and, and
I\'m the one that\'s left and,
01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:14.999
and she gets very scared for me.
Where my family is
01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:19.999
now since my brother
died is wha... its not an
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:24.999
interesting place my Mom
has more fear than I wish
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:29.999
she would towards me. She does want me to
do anything over just maternal instinct
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:34.999
she doesn\'t like what I do things like
snowboard . Anything whether any risk
01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:39.999
what so ever and eh... I, I try hard to
01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:44.999
understand that. I know where she is coming
from but in the same time I can\'t just stop
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:49.999
living if, if anything for my
brother he... that would destroy
01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:54.999
him if he knew that I
stop living when he died.
01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:59.999
In my mind they\'re kind of
excessively afraid for me sometimes
01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:04.999
and uhm, and they have to let me go
because I have to live my own life
01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:09.999
and in on the same hand I can\'t
make it all okay for them.
01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:14.999
I... they have to find their own
friends and I don\'t think it can ever
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:19.999
filled the gap of the loss of Chris but
you can find your experiences. They
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:24.999
might not have had, maybe search out of
new friendship groups to, to fulfill
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:29.999
some of those social, social
support needs that you now have,
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:34.999
so I guess I\'d see were a lot
closer and we look after each
01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:39.999
other a lot more but at the same
point it\'s something that we
01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:44.999
working to nearly negotiating. If my
Mom, Dad and my sister went somewhere
01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:49.999
and they\'re a couple hours late, now the
worst scenario runs through my head
01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:54.999
and I feel so uncomfortable
because I think what would
01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:59.999
I do If I lost them and it puts me in even
01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:04.999
worst place cuz I mean I lost my brother.
I know what it feels like if I
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:09.999
loss the rest of them I don\'t think I can
live through it that\'s all I feel about it.
01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:14.999
I need them and I hope, I
think they know that I don\'t
01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:19.999
express it as much that
I like to but I try to.
01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:24.999
It just... it\'s hard to express
the word and I, I feel inside
01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:29.999
that it’s that I get I wasn\'t alone cuz
01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:34.999
after the loss of my parents
and Shirley I felt that I was
01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:39.999
very alone in the sense that I had loss my
01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:44.999
immediate family but Jonel(ph) and
Lindsay(ph) and Ken(ph) kept saying, you
01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:49.999
know that we’re, we’re together
we are family and you know
01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:54.999
we are gonna be there for each
other so that means a lot to me.
01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:59.999
[music]
01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:04.999
[music] Anger,
01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:09.999
I feel a lot of anger and I
sometimes I think really got in
01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:14.999
control of that and sometimes its
brings up. I, I was saying that uhm,
01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:19.999
this last this has been the
6th anniversary of his death
01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:24.999
and oh, I felt the anger again. Uhm, I
feel angry that he depended on people
01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:29.999
and they let him down that he went into
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:34.999
life and into the an experience trusting
that nothing could go wrong and that
01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:39.999
really it was human error and a bitter
chance that almost seem to have
01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:44.999
conspiracy against him. I can remember this
01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:49.999
distinctly waking up in the middle of the
night about the week after he gone missing
01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:54.999
and thinking that he was, he
was call... or he had been
01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:59.999
calling for me and that he\'d been hoping
that I would be there and then I come
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:04.999
and may be even believing
that we would even known
01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:09.999
realistically there, there was no
way we could have change the event.
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:14.999
I have felt a lot of guilt
thinking that he, he was waiting
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:19.999
for me and I didn\'t come and that somehow and
I don\'t telepathically I should have known
01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:24.999
uhm, cuz, cuz frankly I didn\'t have
any sign that he was that... there
01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:29.999
was something wrong I... I had no in cling.
I was going along pretty happy and my life
01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:34.999
and the news of his disappearance
came as a complete shock.
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:39.999
So when this happened I wasn\'t angry
01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:44.999
but I wanted to blame God to some
level because you know everyone
01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:49.999
saying this is God\'s will they
want the better people yediyediya.
01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:54.999
I don\'t wanna be angry at him. I, I
don\'t lose faith, I still think I know
01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:59.999
his there but I don\'t wanna be
angry with Him so I\'m using all my
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:04.999
faith and power not to
hate God for taking my
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:09.999
brother. I do feel some angry
at, at Chris himself because
01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:14.999
he has left behind so much distress and,
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:19.999
and I know he never he would never intended
it and I know that, that wherever he is, I\'m
01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:24.999
sure he, you know, he\'s walking out
with us in terms of the pain that we
01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:29.999
still feeling the loneliness
for him and uhm, the sadness
01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:34.999
. That\'s why I feel angry why
he did have to go on that
01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:39.999
boat. Why did he always
to be so adventurous?
01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:44.999
Why when I needed him
wasn\'t he there cuz I,
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:49.999
I really needed him to actually understand
and deal with his death. I mean
01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:54.999
it sort of just this crazy experience that
you... just when you need the person who means
01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:59.999
that much to you.
01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:04.999
[music]
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The advice that I would gave to
somebody whose ah, who recently a loss
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a brother uhm,
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I think it would be to... to be very gentle
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with yourself not to minimize the
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experienced of the lost that
you\'ve had because certainly
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there\'s a lot of focus
on parents lost and, and
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it’s a tremendous loss to
parents, no doubt about it but
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the loss of the sibling that, that person
that you\'ve grown up with who has share
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all those little things in life
that you have that, that losses is
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profound. With people that knew him I
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like to talk about him unfortunate that
one his best friend is my neighbor
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and she’s a big talker she loves to talk
so it s easy to talk to her and she\'s
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right there to talk in that helped.
In, in my case
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I think we have some people come by and
sort of suggested I needed to slow down
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and in a very quiet, in a very gentle way
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but in a way that that made me stop
and think. There\'s no shortcuts
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that you, I feel you have to
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grief, you have to let the
pain, you have to go where the
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pain is, not to ignore your feelings
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or perhaps you might think or I\'m
not gonna think about that or
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look at her picture because it
brings too much pain and I found
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that is the way you healed is by going and
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facing the pain and a grief
and letting it come out.
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I think another thing we
found really helpful were
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resource books and I think the
reading on the books out there were
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way that we can each uniquely find it... a different
approach to understanding grief. My father had to
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go to the full of philosophical
understandings of grief. Uhm, mine were,
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mostly stories has what helped
me and then my Mom seemed to get
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in to a more of the spiritual. I feel that
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you have to be there for one another.
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You know, life is short on this earth so
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if you can find the good in everyday
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and to realize how lucky you are to be here
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and don\'t waste it don\'t waste your time.
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I hope I don\'t forget Jamie,
I don \'t think I will.
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I made a little scrap book not
for anybody else just for me
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that I wanna look it whenever I feel I
like it. It\'s full of pictures its full of
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words, it\'s full of
letters it’s just for me
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I don\'t wanna forget him
I don\'t think I will.
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[music] In terms of feeling connected
to Chris, there has been a big
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shift in the first... I\'d see even
in the first two years, I could
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hear his voice I still
remember his expressions and,
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uhm, you know you could still actually
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smell, the, you know, yeah, well.
He was an athlete,
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let me say, ah, his cloths
didn\'t always smell sweet but,
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uhm, there was a lot of
tangibles that were still there
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that we can rely on and with time
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those, those do g. I, I can\'t
hear his voice the way I used do.
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I have dreams about him I love
it when i have dreams about him
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I don\'t they usually don\'t make sense I
don\'t care if he\'s in it that\'s great.
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Sometimes its realistic like he just show up and going,
\"God were have you\'ve been, I know you weren\'t dead.\"
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I can picture him in my mind and
certainly he comes to me and my dreams
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sometimes but some of its, it\'s a
little shady, you know it’s getting
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a little shady around the edges I
can\'t quite picture him. I do talk to
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Shirley. I... both in my
head and out loud. Uhm,
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sometimes ah, there\'s a situation going on
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and I\'ll say, \" Shirley I need your help
here.\" I guess I believe that it\'s... she’s
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there with me as well as my parents.
Uhm, coming
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today I was talking to Shirley
and my parents and I was
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asking them to give me
the strength to do this.
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I feel her presence, her
spirit, his with me.
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I\'m curious what \'s gonna happen
when I\'m 30. I hope I\'m still
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dreaming about him that if he\'s still gonna
be 24 while I\'m 30, I don\'t know what\'s
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gonna happen I just have to wait. I really
hope I keep dreaming about him. So what I\'ve,
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what I\'ve done briefly and I guess
that the strategies I have is
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I try to do activities that
we love doing together
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and really going out and
searching for them, uhm,
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my husband and I started to adventure raising. So we,
we go up to the mountains and do this we really long
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trail runs and kayaks and I
just know that although he,
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he wasn\'t there or you know, he
was never actually there with us.
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It\'s something he would have wanted to do and
his there in spirit and I feel really connected
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to him when I do it. I had a dream
once that I went sailing with him
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I like to sail my brother
never has and I know he would
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love it and in my dream I
took him sailing and that
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made me feel so good when I woke up.
Just to feel as if I did take him
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sailing and he loved it so I
don\'t want those things to stop
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ever.
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