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At her funeral,

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one of my husband’s friends

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came to me and said he was
sorry that I’d lost my baby.

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And then he nodded over
at Chuck and he said,

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\"It’s a shame that she
died and he’s still here.\"

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I didn’t understand what that meant

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and so I said, \"What’s
him being here got to do

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with her dying?\"

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And he said, \"Well, it’s just
a shame that your baby died

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and the retarded kid is still here.\"

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Fairview Training Center in Oregon,

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Pen Hurst in Pennsylvania.
Willowbrook in New York

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and then Ohio, Orient, Apple
Creek, and Columbus state

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among others.

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The stories shared here are from Ohio,

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but they mirror the experiences of facilities
across America. Founded in the mid 1800s,

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these institutions evolved
into human warehouses.

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By 1943, there were nearly
100,000 people living in them,

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all labeled mentally defective.

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The family members who sent their loved ones
here were led to feel they had no other options.

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It was like a jail cell. He was in a locked unit
and I can remember going up to the main building

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and the clanging doors and
the… the… the ring of keys

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and them letting him out. Then
we would drop him back off again

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and they would clang those doors shut.

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Ray hosted us and I’ll never forget at
the beginning of the tour round he said,

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\"As you walk around here,

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you’re going to see some
very bad conditions.

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And I’m encouraging you not to overreact

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and show it on your face, the
shock you may feel because

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it’s still somebody’s home.\"

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When my brother was born, my parents were told
that the hospital would keep him comfortable,

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but deny him nourishment and that
they basically would euthanize him.

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My baby became ill at three weeks.

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He took her to the hospital and,

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uh… when the doctor came out,
he said that if she lived,

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she would be severely retarded. He starts
asking me questions about do I have help,

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how old the other children were?

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And I’m telling, \"Oh, no, I don’t need
any help anymore because I’m doing well.

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I… I can take care of the children.

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He said, \"Raising one
severely retarded child

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would be difficult, raising
two would be impossible,\"

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and he went back into the room.

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I don’t know how much time passed
before another doctor came out

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and told us that she had passed.

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[sil.]

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Registered nurses who had come to
the home when Chucky was small

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tried to tell me that

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keeping chuck would ruin my family’s life.

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All I had to do to spare everybody
was just leave the house

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and leave them there and when I got back

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he’d be gone and everything that
reminded me of him would be gone.

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I chose to keep him.

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No one let me forget that it was my fault

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when the family started unraveling.

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It was the biggest shock of my life when
they called my husband and I in they said,

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”Our recommendation to you is to put Tom

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into a structured setting and a structured
setting would be to institutionalize him.”

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I always listen to the doctor. That’s why
you go and you get professional help.

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When they told us to go
to these other places,

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my first thought was, I went
to two of them, and I thought,

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”Have they ever been here? Have these
people who sent me here ever been here?”

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You know, they’re telling me to
send my 7-year-old son here?

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Maybe I’ll have to just stay home with
him forever because that was my choice.

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Here’s room after room with the doors. They
were either a bunch of them laying on the beds,

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sitting on the floor, soiled, you
know, not taken care of or anything.

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And I… I said, “No way, I
don’t care if it kills me,

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I’m not putting her in a place like that.”

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We finally placed her and every
month we went to Columbus.

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We went down on Friday
evening and picked Nancy up

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and went to a motel and we kept her
overnight, Friday night and Saturday night,

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and then we took her back Sunday afternoon
and mother cried all the way home.

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First year, he came home for Thanksgiving

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and they took him back and he cried all the way
back. When they went down to got him on Christmas

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and on the way back he…
he wailed and he screamed

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and he hit. My father said, \"He
would never again take him out,\"

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and he didn’t.

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You just feel like it you shouldn’t do it because
you know how he feels about being brought back

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and what he knows that he’s on
a place as soon as you leave.

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[sil.]

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I guess I just kind of feel kind
of guilty about putting her back

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because she was… Do you remember her a lot?

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You know how many mothers have said that?

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I know. Because she was, you
know, young when she came.

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[sil.]

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A hurt that couldn’t be helped.

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[sil.]

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I am a strong man, I can
stand up to anything,

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except my wife

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and daughter get hurt,

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and when my daughter Ola,

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they’re treated like outcasts, they’re
treated like third world citizens

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when we should be treating them like angels

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’cause that’s what they are.
I am sorry it’s over.

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Orient was a place

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of more than 2000 individuals. No offense
to the people who were there whatsoever,

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but Orient was a place that we
smelled before we got there.

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Orient was a nightmare by any
stretch of the imagination.

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Staff and I would walk into a
living situation which would be,

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umm… almost like a huge dorm room,

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but I had never saw more than one
attendant and she would be running around

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with a mop and a bucket, and people having
bathroom situations, she would take care of that

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with a mop and a bucket, she didn’t
actually go to the bathroom.

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You walked into that building and you
smelled urine. The smell of the institution

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nearly bowled me over. The smell of urine
was pervasive. Smelled like urine,

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smelled like too many
people living together.

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The first time I was there when I asked questions about
it was pretty much told me that that’s how they are,

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that’s what the way they want to be.

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Twenty six years ago, I went to Columbia State institution
and upon entering that there was a huge concrete sign

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that said State institution
for the… umm… for Imbeciles,

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Idiots and Morons. That was an overwhelming statement
to me, uh… it was just a statement about people

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who had been reduced to words because they
happen to be born to learn a little bit slower.

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People with mental retardation then were only placed
in these places because we have limited perceptions

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of what they are capable of and
when you call a person an idiot,

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and… and you have washed over them all that that
emotionally means to you, you can put them anywhere.

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We put them out of sight and out of mind. If
you look at most institutions in most states,

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they were isolated, they
were self-contained,

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they evolved into something not happy with.

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Institutionalization with its ritualization and its regimentation
and its rigidity saps the person out of the person.

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It takes the individual
and makes them a thing.

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I remember in the summer of 1974,

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at Apple Creek,

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hearing an incredible din of noise.

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And I went to the window of
my office on the second floor

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and I looked out and there
was a line, elbow to elbow,

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of men pushing hand-push mowers,

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wheel-type push mowers across the lawn.

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They were a gang push mower.

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[sil.]

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You know they didn’t start out to be the horror places
that the ultimately became. They were seen as hospitals,

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they were treating people
medically for their condition.

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These quickly became places where
kids and adults were abused.

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There were crib wards where
children were confined, uh… with…

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they were like cages because they had covers over
the top of them completely surrounded with bars.

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It was a crib, but it looked like a prison.

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Now, we’re not talking necessarily
babies, we are talking about adults,

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if you couldn’t walk or couldn’t walk well,

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you were in the crib wards, people
didn’t get out of those cribs

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for days at a time if ever at all.

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Primarily a staff person in the course of their
shift would get through every one of those persons

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and change their diaper once
and feed them one meal.

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It was very much like factory work. You
get into work, first shift 7 o’clock.

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Got to third shift, what happened? Nobody
died, everything’s fine, okay, hunky dory.

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Then shortly after that breakfast would get
there and you would go through each person

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and feed them their breakfast

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and you fed each and every person.

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They umm… they set her food down there and
told her, \"Nancy, if you want that food,

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you’ll feed yourself. Otherwise,
you’re not getting anything to eat.\"

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Someone stole a hamburger, ran
to the shower room to stuff

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in their mouth and that
person choked and died.

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There was the situation of the room and board, there
were just constant communications that seemed

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umm… like blackmail. If
you want him to umm…

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eat well then you pay for it.

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They would umm… go to the parents

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and threaten them, they had one man for this
area that was really nasty and threatening,

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and uh… other parents
would come to me crying,

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\"What are we gonna do, we don’t have
the money.\" They were paid wise

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because tax dollars were
allocated and at the same time

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they were collecting money from the parents.
Parents were put through a lot of stress

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and misery, and plain hell.

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There were always problems with clothes.
Uh… We would send certain clothes to him,

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he would sometimes have those clothes and
sometimes have somebody else’s clothes

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or sometimes clothes would just disappear.
Every morning someone would bring something

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and if it fit fine and
if it didn’t fine too.

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People were given what they would wear

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and there was no choice. The
use of the chicken dresses

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that they wore and that’s
what she calls them.

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It was not a fashion
statement, she’ll tell you.

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The most common clothing items for
men were heavy denim jumpsuits.

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There was one gentleman
who was always wanting

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to disrobe and take his clothing off. So what staff would
do was they would put the jumpsuit on him backwards

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and close at the back of it and pin
it, so that he could not open it.

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It reminds you wore like a straightjacket.

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[sil.]

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Early medical care for this population

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resulted in real heavy use
of psychotropic medication.

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Almost everybody took Thorazine,
some people took Dilantin.

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There were staff people that used to talk about the
Thorazine shuffle because people were sometimes

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so overly medicated that
their gait was impaired

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and they would sort of shuffle. The visual
image that I’m pulling up right now is… is

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a man in a cotton jumpsuit
shuffling across the sidewalk

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from one building to another, umm… you know with their head
down and kind of this drool out of the corner of their mouth.

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Because they were taking multiple
psychotropic medication in high doses,

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which really served to do nothing other
than impair their ability to learn,

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you know, their ability to…
to understand reality.

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[sil.]

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Talked to one individual who hated going in the basement and when
she would go to the psychiatrist they were put her on a medication

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because they thought it was a problem that she was having. Finally one day,
a staff person that was with her in a psychiatrist office said to her,

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\"Why do you… why do you hate going into the
basement?\" And she said because at Apple Creek,

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they used to… that’s where they
would do the shock treatment.

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And I said Sometimes

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I kept my (inaudible) some of
them have shock treatments.

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[sil.]

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(inaudible),

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they had treatments like shock treatments.

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I’ll never forget walking into a
euphemism called cottage sea,

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I say a euphemism because
it was a star-shaped,

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astroid-shaped building, individual cells.

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It was built as replica building at
Mid-State Correctional Facility.

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It was a prison building.
When people got in trouble,

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they would go there.

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A lot of them had be put in seclusion
rooms with the door locked

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and that was something very scary
which I didn’t want to see.

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I was in there for very brief
time, but it was scary.

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Because I didn’t have anybody to talk to.

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There was a woman that I worked with, another person who is living in the
community that that ended up there a lot and she would tell stories about

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how they were just… how she would eat.
They would just open the little window

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where they could talk to somebody, they didn’t look at people very often. And
would throw in a sandwich and there was a hole in the middle of the floor,

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and there was nothing on the floor to sleep on.
They slept on the hard cold floor, what she said.

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There’s a hole in the middle of the floor and they would
hose it through the bottom of the… under the door,

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there was a little opening and they’d put a hose through and
that’s how they’d hose it out at night or when they ever chose to,

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umm… to… to clean out the defecation.

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People were put in mechanical restraints.

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If someone hit them self in the head then
they would be placed in full arm splints

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so that they could not bend, which
also meant they couldn’t eat.

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You would see some bumps or bruises or
burns on people and you would wonder

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how did that happen. I’ve had individuals who
told me that they were physically struck,

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umm… struck with bar inside of a sock

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’cause evidently that didn’t leave bruises.

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Oh, you can get beat up
pretty bad, real bad.

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I seen it happen.

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So we had him tied up
in his chair and while

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he was still tied to the chair, the staff
person pushed the chair up to the waterfront

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and shoved his head under the water
fountain and turned the water on.

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I remember even going and reporting that, but the supervisors
were, \"Well, did this really happen and explain this in detail,\"

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and kind of questioned
me with the idea being,

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are you sure you want to make this report?
The message I got from them was,

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if you’re stepping forward, you’re going to do this, you’re
going to put me in a quandary where I have to act on him.

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And I think their idea was like,
don’t make me act. One resident

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umm… I know talked about getting a can of pop
if he would perform oral sex on someone else

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and he would do that and… and laugh about
it because it would get him a can of pop.

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Us people demand sex for candy bar, as
I seen people demand for cigarettes,

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uh… candy, stuff like that.

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Dr. Delaney was appalled by the
conditions in which people were living

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and he garnered the support
of family groups and media,

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umm… local newspaper,

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local television media and
opened his doors and said,

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\"Come in, I want you to see… I want
you to see what people are living

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and how people are living, what their life is like. Umm…
You know, we’re not gonna keep it isolated anymore.\"

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Umm… He advised this
parents group to sue him.

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He took parents into those
living areas for the first time.

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This was so disturbing for these families to see how their children or siblings
were living and they wondered how they could even survive in such conditions.

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[sil.]

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In 1974, I had the opportunity to come to
Ohio, came out for a visit on a weekend.

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I got shown around Apple
Creek, every nook and cranny.

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I was just too young to be scared kid

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and I looked at the guy who showed me around,
the new superintendent of the facility,

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and the other fellow I was
with from Massachusetts.

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And I looked at Joe and Joe looked at me
and we got wide-eyed and I said to Joey,

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\"Let’s do it. We had nothing to lose.

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There’s nowhere to go but up.\" There
were a number of people in the system,

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would come out of the civil rights movement,
like come out of resisting the war

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and channel that same energy into the last
spoken for minority in the United States.

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[sil.]

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I never forget a woman by the
name of Joanne (inaudible)

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was introduced to me in the summer of 1974.
Will the committee please come to order?

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She was invited to testify
at the budget hearings.

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Mrs. (inaudible) came in and
sat down, took a sip of water

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and said, \"My question is,

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why is it that the people
who swill the hogs

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at the Agricultural Research
Center across the road

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from Apple Creek Developmental Center or
State Institute where my son Jimmy lives,

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why do they make more per hour than
the people who take care of my son?\"

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And she got up and walked out.

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We’ve had this vision

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that we would break down
the state institutions

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by creating new development
centers, smaller in size

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in the urban areas. We would get
people out of the state institutions

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and get them back closer
to their home community.

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We challenged the old ways, we challenged the
regimentation, we challenged the rituals,

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we challenged the… the illogic of 20 people

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side by side pushing on
and the inhumanity of it.

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And unfortunately, the first
wave of response to that

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was resistance. A young supervisor

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walked in to (inaudible) on
a second shift unexpected

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and caught an employee in a shower room,

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he had a male consumer
up against a tile wall

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with a mop handle under the chin

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of the individual and the individual
toes were not on the floor.

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We charged him with abuse.

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We challenged the sheriff to
arrest him for simple assault

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and it was done. There was to be a trial

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at the Wister courthouse
for simple assault.

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It was around October of 1974

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and I will never forget looking up
the stairs of Wister courthouse

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and seeing Dale K. Reusch in
full Klu Klux Klan regalia,

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saying, \"I came to show support for him

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because after all, all he was
doing was his job to keep order

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among the inmates out there on the Hill and
if good people like myself don’t stand up

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for good people like him, we’re going
to have the same kind of trouble

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we had down in the south when we
let those other folks on busses.\"

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The hair on the back of
my neck stood right up

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and I knew we were in deep, deep trouble.

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Trying to establish the original groups…
group homes was very difficult.

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Neighbors had a great fear of the
individuals who were coming back

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from the institutions.

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The philosophy was, \"That’s great, you can build a
home for these people, but not in my neighborhood.

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You don’t know what’s it gonna
do to my property values.\"

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There were public hearings. Some people
got very nasty in the neighborhoods

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about the fact that they were going to be
subjected to a group home in their neighborhood.

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I used to go to zoning hearings and I parked my car
with the nose out because when the hearing was over,

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I wanted to get the heck out of there
before the neighbors came after me.

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And so, they were pretty testy times and
some of them were pretty threatening times

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and umm… we’ve had some homes that… where we had law suits that have
gone on for years with us trying to get neighbors to accept us.

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If I know they were going to do
something, I think it was burn the home.

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If he stepped on their property,

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they were going to shoot him.
I got a baseball bat

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and I parked up the street. They
were not going to hurt my child.

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He hadn’t done anything to them.
He just moved into a home.

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That’s all that he did, moved into a home.

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There’s been a whole lot of progress.
I think the community…

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the movement to the community was providing
more human dignity in people’s lives, which is,

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what more can you ask for in life, is giving
somebody their own dignity and self-worth.

00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.999
Harry Byrd played football for East High School.
He unfortunately was subject to epilepsy,

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another piece of his misfortune was that
he stood about six foot five inches

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when he was in high school, probably
weighed 230. He was a scary epileptic guy.

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And he was unmanageable at home.

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So he was sent to Gallipolis and
he lived there all of his youth,

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early adulthood, and adulthood.

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And I met him in 1980 when
he was in his late 50s.

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He was a walking, talking
regular kind of guy.

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And one day we said to him, \"What
do you really want to do, Harry?

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And he said, \"I’ve always
wanted to see the ocean.\"

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Harry went out to the ocean,

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took his shoes off, waded in the
surf, had a big smile on his face.

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And after dinner,

00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:59.999
Harry in years said, \"I’m tired
and I want to go to bed.\"

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He was in bed about an hour
and a staff person heard

00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:09.999
a loud thump. Harry had
a seizure and he died,

00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:14.999
but he saw the ocean.

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I guess those middle years
were times that were

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still part of his tough struggle.

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And we give people all of the accoutrements of their
independence that we’re able to give people today.

00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.999
But we gave him something.

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[sil.]

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[sil.]

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The resiliency for people
with disabilities is…

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is an asset that I think
we take for granted.

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Umm… they will go and live in and… and
I’m not saying that everybody’s happy

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and all that stuff that you read about, I’m saying that people
are resilient and they adjust where they… they’re placed.

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But they can tell you, the
individuals I’ve met can tell you

00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.999
that their life is a whole lot better when they move
in the community and if they get family involvement,

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that’s just icing on the cake. Initially
when uh… folks came back to our community

00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.999
and uh… began to understand
and that’s what it was,

00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.999
they had to understand that umm…
you could have these clothes,

00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:54.999
nobody’s going to take them away,
you could have your cologne,

00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:59.999
you could have your own hairbrush, you can uh…
have umm… shoe, your own shoes, your own coat,

00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:04.999
your own jacket.

00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.999
Uh… they just weren’t sure
what this was all about.

00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.999
I remember one gentleman was moved
into a community group home setting

00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:19.999
in the mid 1980s into his own
bedroom and able to make choices,

00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:24.999
umm… and developed truly into this
wonderful thoughtful young man.

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He got a paycheck. And
you know money is power,

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you know, and to get that, that was one of the
things he said, \"I got my paycheck today.\"

00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:39.999
You know, he got… he didn’t really know what the amounts
were, but he was saying, \"I got my paycheck today.\"

00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:44.999
And you’d ask him how much it was and he’d mention
some amount, some amount that made him feel good.

00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.999
He may have said one time, he might have said three
cents. But if three says made him feel good that day

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then that’s what it was.
He loved to go to work.

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As a matter of fact, when he would come home and stay
with me or stay with my mom during the holidays,

00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.999
he’ll get a little anxious because he considered
Mondays the beginning of the work week.

00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:09.999
We’d have to let him know, you don’t
work today, you go back on Tuesday.

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.999
Hey, good seeing you. I
could use a good handshake.

00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.999
Hey, buddy, how you doing? How you been, you’re
looking good. Whoa, I feel good. I know that’s right.

00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.999
Good seeing you, James. Good seeing
you too. He became a stellar employee

00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:29.999
that there every day 7 o’clock.
He worked long, he worked hard.

00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:34.999
He did a wonderful job.

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The secret of our success today

00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.999
and in the future is going to be seeing
every person truly as an individual

00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.999
and that the best… the best hint I can
give to a young professional today

00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:54.999
is know every one of them by name, know
something about their life and their family.

00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.999
Compassion uh… without pity.
Pity is misinformed

00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:04.999
and misplaced and it causes people
to act in condescending ways

00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:09.999
when compassion is informed and
enlightened based on knowledge

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of an individual person by name. I’m fine.

00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:19.999
Looks like you’re going to (inaudible).
Jack is a free spirit.

00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.999
He’s wonderful at giving
people hope and kindness,

00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:29.999
and a good ear and good advice.

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[sil.]

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I was over at his bedroom
umm… not too long ago

00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.999
and umm… he has more stuff than
there is room for. And they were

00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:49.999
encouraging him to clean out his closet.

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.999
Jack had a pet. I remember
vividly Jack petting the dog

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and they looked so contented.

00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:20.000
[sil.]

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Okay. That’s good, that’s good.

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[music]