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(wind blowing, bird chirping)

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(crow cawing)

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♪ ♪

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(shofar blowing)

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(sirens blaring)

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(shofar blowing)

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(sirens continue)

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(overlapping shofar blowing)

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Officer 1: (on radio)
 Shots fired. Shots fired.

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 871, shots fired.
 Give me all
 additional resources.

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(shofar blowing)

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 34-23, 34-24.

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 5898 Wilkins Avenue.

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(siren)

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(inaudible)

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(radio static, chatter)

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(Officer 1 speaking)

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Officer 2: (on radio)
 Copy.

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(Officer 1 speaking)

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(Officer 2 speaking)

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(Officer 1 speaking)

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♪ ♪

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Anthony Fienberg:
 One of my elder daughters

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 came running in and asked,

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 "Did Bubbe go to shul today?"

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That's about when
my stomach fell out.

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I knew something was wrong.

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♪ ♪

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(Officer 1 on radio)

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(Officer 2 on radio)

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(sirens blaring)

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(screaming)

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We got a text from somebody
that just said

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"active shooter at
Tree of Life Synagogue."

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I said, "The boys are there."

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And in our hearts, we knew.

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We knew. We just felt it.

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(Officer 1 on radio)

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(Officer 3 on radio)

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Carol Black:
I turned the corner
 onto Wilkins Avenue

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 and was looking
 for the parking lot,

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 and I saw my brother
 walking into the building.

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 That's the last time
I saw him alive.

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♪ ♪

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(Officer 1 on radio)

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(Officer 3 on radio)

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I was facing forward.
I couldn't--

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I did not see
what was going on behind me

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 until I heard this sound.

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And I turned around
to see what the sound was.

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And there was the man
with the gun.

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(praying in Hebrew)

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 I turned around,

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 and Audrey was going over

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 to the left side,

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 and I followed behind her.

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 Audrey and I went up,
 and we found this room

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 with all kinds of junk in it,
 and we hid in there.

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There was a window in the door,
and so, when we realized that,

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we made ourselves look like,

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as much as we could, the bags of
clothing that were in there.

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I guess they're donations.

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She heard Bernice cry out...

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when her husband was shot.

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I don't recall hearing that.

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♪ ♪

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All I remember was,
was the man with the gun.

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We couldn't run. We were
in the back, in our seats.

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And I just told my mother,
I said, "Just get down."

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 And I think we both got shot

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before we went down.

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(radio static, beep)

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(Officer 1 on radio)

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(static, beep)

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Stephen Weiss:
 As I got into the doorway,

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there were a series of
probably four or five shots.

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And as I'm standing
in the doorway, I could see

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 shell casings
 bouncing across the floor
in front of me.

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And having that shootout
with these four officers

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that were shot.
I mean, when I think about it...

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Dan Leger:
Jerry and I looked
 at each other.

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 Jerry's a doctor. I'm a nurse.

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 I thought that somehow

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we could be helpful. And so,

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we moved in the direction
of the gunfire.

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And as you know, Jerry was
killed, and I was wounded.

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I just laid on the floor.
I didn't move.

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And I was bleeding a lot. Um...

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I think I must have been
in shock.

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My mother was lying right by me,

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 and I couldn't--
I couldn't look.

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 I just stayed there
 until somebody came through.

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Stephen:
 When the police came on scene,

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 the shooter actually ended up
 going up into the school wing.

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Normally on a Saturday morning,
 my son and I would be there

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 to do a junior congregation.
 One Shabbat a month,

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 we didn't have
 junior congregation.

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 This happened to be
 that one Shabbat.

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Normally, my son would have been
sitting in the front lobby entry

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waiting for the kids
to come in.

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(Officer 2 on radio)

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(static, radio chatter)

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♪ ♪

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Andrea Wedner:
 When I got up,

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 I just told my mother
 I loved her,

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 and I had to go.

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I had to live.

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So, I knew she...

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didn't-- wasn't gonna survive.

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(Officers on radio)

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(siren blaring)

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♪ ♪

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(insects chirping)

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♪ ♪

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Rabbi Jonathan Perlman:
 These cowardly assassins

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 were going after small,
 vulnerable places,

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 and, um...

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you know, the shooter killed
about half the people

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in the building.
Half the people survived.

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 Eleven dead.

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(quiet chatter)

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Rabbi Jeffrey Myers:
 The Jewish people have been

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here on these shores 355 years.

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And if you think
about antisemitism,

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which has been prevalent
all 355 years, um...

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Yeah, it's surprising.
It's like, well,
what took so long?

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 It was inevitable
that there was gonna be

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 an attack of this nature
on a synagogue.

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♪ ♪

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(birds chirping)

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(clicking)

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Barry Werber:This is even before I was born,

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but it's my aunts and uncles,

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my grandmother and grandfather,

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my brother,
bless his memory.

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The two elderly folks
in front with the child

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between them are my grandmother
and grandfather.

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This whole thing
is falling apart.

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(plastic crinkling)

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 Growing up,
 the holidays were amazing.

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 My Bubbe and Zayde,my grandmother and grandfather,

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 had a little apartment
 in Terrace Village

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 up in the Hill District,

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and Passover would come,
and the relatives would come in

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from all over-- Chicago,
New York, Steubenville.

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 And we'd all settle
 around this table

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 in the middle
 of their living room,

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 and by the time
 the Seder would start,

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 of course,
 you start the Seder late,

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 the kids were underneath
the table, sound asleep

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because they had
sampled the wine. Okay?

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And as orthodox
as my Zayde was,

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he wanted to get
the kinderlach home to bed.

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He didn't think it was right
that they stay up

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till 1:00 or 2:00
in the morning for a Seder.

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So he'd have a tendency
to try and skip pages

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on the, on the, the Seder book.

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And it was, it was,
it was amazing

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because he'd go so far,
and then he'd turn the page.

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And my Bubbe, oh,
she was a character.

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"Jacob! You missed a page!

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"Jacob! You forgot!
You didn't do a line!

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Jacob! What about this?
And what..."

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And, and, and my Zayde,
bless his memory, would say,

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"Shah, still. The kinderlach
 have to get home to bed.

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Shah. Still."

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It was hilarious.

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-(projector clicking)
-(quiet traffic noise)

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Rabbi Perlman:
 I came to Pittsburgh
when I was 9 years old.

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 My father was moving
 around a lot.

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 He was shaping
 his medical career.

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It was more of a mix than
what we had in Milwaukee.

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I remember in Milwaukee
that a girl

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who was older than me told me

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that the Jews had killed Christ.

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That was the first time
I'd ever heard about that.

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 So, I always appreciated
 Pittsburgh.

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(crowd cheering)

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 I remember in 1979,

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 the Pittsburgh Pirates
 won the World Series.

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 And the captain of the team,
Willie Stargell,

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kept on referring
to the Pirates as the family.

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And there was a song
that was popular at the time

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called "We Are Family."

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 ♪ We are family ♪

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 And all the fans
 used to sing it all the time.

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 And it really thrilled me

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 to feel part of
 this great family,

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and we would sing it
all the time.

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It was funny because it said,
"We are family.

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I got all my sisters with me,"

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which didn't really refer
to the Pirates so much,

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but, in my family,
where I only had sisters, uh,

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it was very special to me
to be able to sing

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about having all
my sisters with me.

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(muffled "We Are Family"
fading out)

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(quiet traffic noise)

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(breeze blowing)

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(birds chirping)

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I didn't feel like
watching the Steelers today

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because I was afraid
they would lose.

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But I have to get
the score. (laughs)

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Pittsburgh Steelers
won 17 to 10.

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-Director:  Mazel tov. (laughs)
 -Mazel tov indeed.

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Director:
My father will be very happy.

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(laughter)

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There are writers who say,

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"We are born,
we suffer, and we die."

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The whole of life
in eight words.

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And I say...

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We are born, we laugh,
and we die.

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Anyway, uh...

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that gives you an idea of
the kind of person I am.

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Should I talk with
my hands on the table,

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or should I talk with
my hands in my lap?

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Should I cross my legs?
Should I grab...

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Director:
If it makes you
feel able to speak--

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I'm likely to use my hands

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because I always do.

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I live in Greenfield, but
everyone calls it Squirrel Hill

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 because I'm near the border.

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 And, in fact,
 in Squirrel Hill,

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 Squirrel Hill itself
 has never been

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 more than 40% Jewish.

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 But the flavor
 of the neighborhood,

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 all the businesses
that were owned

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and loudly proclaiming

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 "Buy kosher meat here"
 and whatever.

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 It made it seem
like a Jewish community.

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-(birds chirping)
-(quiet traffic noise)

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(turn signal clicking)

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(sighs) See?

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-(shifts to park)
-(clicks seatbelt)

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Anthony:
 I knew them. I sat in
synagogue next to them.

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 They greeted me as I came
 into the synagogue

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 where I grew up with them.

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(Director speaking)

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This is my first time.

00:13:30.510 --> 00:13:34.394
(quiet traffic noise, honking)

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Magali Fienberg:
 Joyce was very concerned

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 about what happened in Paris,

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 in France, and also in Paris,

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because many things
happen against Jewish people.

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I think she, she would
have liked us to, to move.

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Director:
Did she ever say where
she'd like you to move?

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In Pittsburgh. Yes.

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-Come here, puppy.
-Director: She wants
to be with her mama?

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Yeah! You wanna sit with mom?

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-This is my dog, Ziva.
That's a Hebrew name.
-(panting)

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-Ziva.
-Director: What does it mean?

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It means light and illuminated.

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She's been my therapy dog,
I'll tell you. For the...

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That first week or so afterwards

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when there was one funeral
after the next.

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It was...

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Yeah, that was, that was
a tough week, um...

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-(street noise)
-(distant horn)

00:14:41.701 --> 00:14:43.559
(rattling)

00:14:43.583 --> 00:14:47.843
Augie Siriano:
I-- I've said to
 a few people already, um...

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"I can't wait to get back home,

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but, unfortunately,
it's gonna be a while."

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Director:
When you say, "Can't wait
to get back home,"

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-what do you mean by home?
-Tree of Life. Yeah.

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And they looked at me like,
"Oh really?"

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You know, I was, yeah. You know.

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It's 27 years now in there.

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(clears throat)

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 In 1993, my brother-in-law
 used to work

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 at Tree of Life Synagogue.

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 He called me and said,

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"Hey, there's a position here."
 I went and,

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 you know, I worked for
a while, and, you know,

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I liked it, so I just stayed.

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 The people, the hugs
 and the kisses that I get

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once in a while on the cheek,
of course,

00:15:30.710 --> 00:15:33.889
it's just in general
working there.

00:15:33.913 --> 00:15:37.533
You know, some of the people,
I couldn't wait to come in

00:15:37.557 --> 00:15:40.816
for something... You know,

00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:43.179
sometimes I would stand
at the door and wait

00:15:43.203 --> 00:15:45.101
for them to come in
and just say,

00:15:45.125 --> 00:15:47.103
"Hi, how you doing?"
You know?

00:15:47.127 --> 00:15:49.969
And I'm gonna miss all that.

00:15:50.810 --> 00:15:54.894
-(birds chirping)
-(kids chattering)

00:15:58.738 --> 00:16:02.718
Carol:
I just was not involved
 in Jewish life

00:16:02.742 --> 00:16:06.322
 really for my--
 most of my adult life.

00:16:06.346 --> 00:16:10.446
So, Saturday mornings, I would
meet my friend at North Park,

00:16:10.470 --> 00:16:12.448
and we would
run around the lake.

00:16:12.472 --> 00:16:14.850
And we did that for many years

00:16:14.874 --> 00:16:17.013
until I injured my hip,
and I couldn't run.

00:16:17.037 --> 00:16:18.974
And I thought, "Well,
now what am I gonna do?"

00:16:18.998 --> 00:16:22.178
So, thought, "Well, maybe
I'll just go to shul."

00:16:22.202 --> 00:16:25.141
And so I joined my brother

00:16:25.165 --> 00:16:27.143
and got involved,

00:16:27.167 --> 00:16:30.050
and it just carried on
from there.

00:16:30.490 --> 00:16:33.349
Our congregation
is a small congregation,

00:16:33.373 --> 00:16:37.793
and it tends towards
the older side,

00:16:37.817 --> 00:16:40.636
and we don't have

00:16:40.660 --> 00:16:41.877
our own building anymore.

00:16:41.901 --> 00:16:44.680
We couldn't maintain
our old building,

00:16:44.704 --> 00:16:46.282
and so we sold it

00:16:46.306 --> 00:16:49.565
and moved into the Tree of Life.

00:16:49.589 --> 00:16:52.048
♪ ♪

00:16:52.072 --> 00:16:54.490
 We don't refer to it

00:16:54.514 --> 00:16:55.851
as the Tree of Life shooting.

00:16:55.875 --> 00:16:59.695
We call it the Pittsburgh
Synagogue shooting

00:16:59.719 --> 00:17:02.378
because we want people to know

00:17:02.402 --> 00:17:05.541
that there were two
other congregations

00:17:05.565 --> 00:17:06.342
that were in that building,

00:17:06.366 --> 00:17:10.226
and all three congregations
lost people.

00:17:10.250 --> 00:17:12.708
So the three congregations,
well, of course,

00:17:12.732 --> 00:17:16.352
Tree of Life or L'Simcha.
It's their building.

00:17:16.376 --> 00:17:18.314
There is Dor Hadash,

00:17:18.338 --> 00:17:20.156
which also was a tenant,

00:17:20.180 --> 00:17:23.839
and that's a Reconstructionist
congregation.

00:17:23.863 --> 00:17:28.004
And the one that I belong to
is New Light Congregation.

00:17:28.028 --> 00:17:33.273
And we had only been in that
building for 11 months.

00:17:34.634 --> 00:17:38.078
We were just getting used
to that new home.

00:17:49.369 --> 00:17:51.307
Barry:
I would go
 Friday night services

00:17:51.331 --> 00:17:52.268
 and Sunday morning services.

00:17:52.292 --> 00:17:57.673
 But, it happened that it was
 my mother's  yahrzeit.

00:17:57.697 --> 00:17:59.435
That Saturday morning.

00:17:59.459 --> 00:18:02.718
The anniversary of her passing.

00:18:02.742 --> 00:18:07.067
And I made it a point
to go to shul.

00:18:08.468 --> 00:18:12.048
Services started
at a quarter to 10:00.

00:18:12.072 --> 00:18:15.291
Nobody showed up
at a quarter to 10:00.

00:18:15.315 --> 00:18:18.414
I like to say
Jewish Standard Time.

00:18:18.438 --> 00:18:20.176
A quarter to 10:00,
10:00 o'clock,

00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:22.338
quarter after,
but be there by 10:30.

00:18:22.362 --> 00:18:26.446
And that's the way
things usually happen.

00:18:29.169 --> 00:18:31.267
Dan:
 It was a rainy morning.

00:18:31.291 --> 00:18:35.511
I got there and my
dear friend Jerry Rabinowitz

00:18:35.535 --> 00:18:37.633
was, was-- had arrived

00:18:37.657 --> 00:18:40.396
just a couple of minutes
before I did.

00:18:40.420 --> 00:18:44.280
And Marty Gaynor, our friend,

00:18:44.304 --> 00:18:45.881
had arrived just, I think,

00:18:45.905 --> 00:18:48.524
a couple minutes
after I got there.

00:18:48.548 --> 00:18:50.150
Um...

00:18:50.910 --> 00:18:53.913
And, um, um...

00:18:55.155 --> 00:18:56.996
Then we heard gunshots.

00:18:58.078 --> 00:19:01.337
 And Jerry and I
 looked at each other.

00:19:01.361 --> 00:19:03.459
Jerry's a doctor,
I'm a nurse.

00:19:03.483 --> 00:19:05.821
Our, our instincts are counter

00:19:05.845 --> 00:19:09.305
to what everyone is trained
to do, and should do,

00:19:09.329 --> 00:19:10.626
and I encourage them to do,

00:19:10.650 --> 00:19:14.630
and that is to run,
hide, and fight,

00:19:14.654 --> 00:19:16.696
in that order.

00:19:17.097 --> 00:19:21.037
But Jerry and I thought that,
somehow, we could be helpful,

00:19:21.061 --> 00:19:24.680
and so we moved
in the direction of the gunfire.

00:19:24.704 --> 00:19:27.283
♪ ♪

00:19:27.307 --> 00:19:30.326
Audrey Glickman:
 We were trying to get
David Rosenthal

00:19:30.350 --> 00:19:34.130
 to come with us to hide
 and not to go back.

00:19:34.154 --> 00:19:35.531
 And he wanted to go back

00:19:35.555 --> 00:19:38.854
and he wanted
to call his house, and...

00:19:38.878 --> 00:19:43.099
Rabbi Myers was already
on the phone to 911.

00:19:43.123 --> 00:19:45.741
I didn't have my phone

00:19:45.765 --> 00:19:47.383
because I had worn something

00:19:47.407 --> 00:19:50.306
with pockets
too shallow for a phone.

00:19:50.330 --> 00:19:54.974
And so my phone
was on the pew, and...

00:19:56.096 --> 00:19:56.872
It was a poor decision,

00:19:56.896 --> 00:19:59.995
and I'll never go
to the synagogue again

00:20:00.020 --> 00:20:04.344
without pockets big enough
to have my phone on me.

00:20:05.505 --> 00:20:08.164
And I think women's clothing
should be made

00:20:08.188 --> 00:20:10.286
with pockets
big enough for phones

00:20:10.310 --> 00:20:14.050
because, apparently,
it's a matter of life and death.

00:20:14.074 --> 00:20:17.397
♪ ♪

00:20:20.840 --> 00:20:22.458
Dan:
 Jerry was killed,

00:20:22.482 --> 00:20:25.805
 and I was, was shot.

00:20:26.966 --> 00:20:28.744
And I, um...

00:20:28.768 --> 00:20:29.945
knew that
it was very likely

00:20:29.969 --> 00:20:33.653
that I was going to be dead
in a few minutes.

00:20:33.893 --> 00:20:37.417
 I was on the stairs, and I...

00:20:38.178 --> 00:20:40.356
I didn't feel afraid
at that point.

00:20:40.380 --> 00:20:43.543
I, I, I had no sense of...

00:20:44.024 --> 00:20:49.125
of being afraid about
the end of my life coming.

00:20:49.149 --> 00:20:50.966
 I thought about my life,
 and I thought,

00:20:50.990 --> 00:20:52.328
 "Gee, I've had
 a wonderful life.

00:20:52.352 --> 00:20:56.772
 My life has been so good.
I'm so grateful for it."
 You know?

00:20:56.796 --> 00:20:59.735
The thing I did,
and the thing that seemed

00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:01.217
to be informed by my values

00:21:01.241 --> 00:21:05.141
as a Jewish person was to,
in that review

00:21:05.165 --> 00:21:08.344
of my life, to be, um...

00:21:08.368 --> 00:21:09.665
thinking of the people
in my life,

00:21:09.689 --> 00:21:12.988
and things that I would want
to have done differently,

00:21:13.013 --> 00:21:16.632
and maybe that I had offended
some of them through my life

00:21:16.656 --> 00:21:21.277
in various ways,
and to ask forgiveness.

00:21:21.301 --> 00:21:22.518
♪ ♪

00:21:22.542 --> 00:21:26.442
 All of a sudden, I see
 a camouflaged pant leg

00:21:26.466 --> 00:21:31.671
 on the stairs next to me,
and I grab the pant leg.

00:21:32.312 --> 00:21:33.769
 It was a paramedic.

00:21:33.793 --> 00:21:37.373
And, um, he said,
"This one's alive."

00:21:37.397 --> 00:21:39.975
♪ ♪

00:21:39.999 --> 00:21:43.139
Carol:
I came in, and I
 was a little bit late.

00:21:43.163 --> 00:21:46.422
And so, I went down the steps

00:21:46.446 --> 00:21:48.584
into our sanctuary space.

00:21:48.608 --> 00:21:53.189
I could hear my brother
and Dan Stein in the kitchen.

00:21:53.213 --> 00:21:55.871
The rabbi was in the front
on the right,

00:21:55.895 --> 00:21:57.793
and Barry Werber was sitting

00:21:57.817 --> 00:21:59.875
right in front of
where I was sitting,

00:21:59.899 --> 00:22:02.598
and Mel was leading the service.

00:22:02.622 --> 00:22:06.962
And I was getting
my tallis bag out.

00:22:06.986 --> 00:22:09.565
I was, you know,
just getting prepared.

00:22:09.589 --> 00:22:12.968
And I was holding
the tallis bag in my hand,

00:22:12.992 --> 00:22:16.612
and I heard the first gunshot,

00:22:16.636 --> 00:22:19.815
although I didn't--
I didn't recognize it

00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:21.417
as a gunshot.
I didn't know what it was.

00:22:21.441 --> 00:22:23.699
I thought somebody
dropped a metal table

00:22:23.723 --> 00:22:27.343
on a floor or something.
I didn't know what it was.

00:22:27.367 --> 00:22:29.305
We all heard the sound,

00:22:29.329 --> 00:22:31.987
and then didn't think
too much of it.

00:22:32.012 --> 00:22:35.831
And then less than a minute
later, there was another one.

00:22:35.855 --> 00:22:38.514
And I said,
"What are they doing up there?"

00:22:38.538 --> 00:22:40.276
And Barry got up
out of the seat,

00:22:40.300 --> 00:22:44.680
walked out, looked up the steps,
he came back in, and he said,

00:22:44.704 --> 00:22:47.787
"There's somebody
laying on the steps."

00:22:48.068 --> 00:22:49.765
And then he sat back down,

00:22:49.789 --> 00:22:53.289
and it just wasn't
occurring to us

00:22:53.313 --> 00:22:54.250
what was happening.

00:22:54.274 --> 00:22:56.692
And then, I heard
bam-bam-bam-bam-bam,

00:22:56.716 --> 00:22:58.214
you know, the rapid gunfire,

00:22:58.238 --> 00:23:01.577
and then Rabbi said,
"We need to get outta here."

00:23:01.601 --> 00:23:05.981
And he motioned us
towards a doorway

00:23:06.006 --> 00:23:06.942
that was in the back.

00:23:06.966 --> 00:23:08.664
I had never been
in that space before.

00:23:08.688 --> 00:23:11.187
I didn't know what was there.
It was pitch black in there.

00:23:11.211 --> 00:23:15.391
There was no lights,
couldn't see a thing.

00:23:15.415 --> 00:23:17.273
And I saw a closet

00:23:17.297 --> 00:23:21.117
with the door propped open
and I went into the closet.

00:23:21.141 --> 00:23:23.639
Barry went into the closet.

00:23:23.663 --> 00:23:24.280
♪ ♪

00:23:24.304 --> 00:23:26.482
And by that time, we knew
that there was shooting.

00:23:26.506 --> 00:23:29.965
And I had my cell phone out,
my dumb phone,

00:23:29.989 --> 00:23:31.647
and I called 911.

00:23:31.671 --> 00:23:32.808
Now, there were places
in that building

00:23:32.832 --> 00:23:35.451
where you couldn't get
any cell phone reception,

00:23:35.475 --> 00:23:40.160
especially in the basement,
but 911 went through.

00:23:41.361 --> 00:23:43.243
And...

00:23:43.563 --> 00:23:45.701
there was a pause.

00:23:45.725 --> 00:23:50.786
Carol was, was over here,
as I recall,

00:23:50.810 --> 00:23:54.830
kneeling behind--
behind an area.

00:23:54.854 --> 00:23:57.273
And I'm pressed up
against a wall,

00:23:57.297 --> 00:24:00.196
and Mel is in front of us.

00:24:00.220 --> 00:24:04.104
And there seemed to be a pause.

00:24:04.864 --> 00:24:06.282
And Mel went

00:24:06.306 --> 00:24:08.804
and pushed the door,
and we couldn't say anything.

00:24:08.828 --> 00:24:10.766
We were afraid
of making any sound.

00:24:10.790 --> 00:24:15.091
And Mel pushed the door open,
and I heard three gunshots.

00:24:15.115 --> 00:24:17.573
 And he fell back in the room.

00:24:17.597 --> 00:24:20.936
♪ ♪

00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:25.005
And then there was a little bit
of light from the...

00:24:25.805 --> 00:24:28.528
from the sanctuary area

00:24:29.369 --> 00:24:31.131
and...

00:24:31.491 --> 00:24:34.334
the gunman walked in.

00:24:34.694 --> 00:24:36.832
And we didn't say a word.

00:24:36.856 --> 00:24:39.155
You know, we weren't
saying anything.

00:24:39.179 --> 00:24:40.636
We knew to be silent

00:24:40.660 --> 00:24:42.678
because we were
counting on the fact

00:24:42.702 --> 00:24:47.243
that darkness was going to be
our friend that day,

00:24:47.267 --> 00:24:50.086
and that we were not seen.

00:24:50.110 --> 00:24:52.568
And after he shot Mel,

00:24:52.592 --> 00:24:54.090
Barry saw him.
I didn't see him.

00:24:54.114 --> 00:24:57.533
I only saw a shadow
because I was behind a door.

00:24:57.557 --> 00:24:59.415
I couldn't see too much.

00:24:59.439 --> 00:25:01.417
I knew--
I could see the long gun.

00:25:01.441 --> 00:25:03.019
I knew, I knew,
I knew the type.

00:25:03.043 --> 00:25:06.702
It was some sort of
an automatic weapon.

00:25:06.726 --> 00:25:09.865
And I couldn't tell much
by what I was looking at,

00:25:09.889 --> 00:25:11.987
other than the gun.

00:25:12.012 --> 00:25:15.935
And he stepped over Mel.

00:25:18.178 --> 00:25:20.316
Couldn't see anything.

00:25:20.340 --> 00:25:22.798
And I have 911 in my ear,
yelling at me,

00:25:22.822 --> 00:25:24.560
trying to get me
to say something,

00:25:24.584 --> 00:25:26.922
and I couldn't breathe.

00:25:26.946 --> 00:25:29.485
And then he stepped back
out of the door,

00:25:29.509 --> 00:25:31.791
and the door closed.

00:25:33.793 --> 00:25:35.851
And I guess it was about...

00:25:35.875 --> 00:25:37.693
a half hour later,
15 minutes later,

00:25:37.717 --> 00:25:40.376
I'm not sure of time.
By this time,

00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:43.363
I'm talking to the 911 operator.

00:25:44.164 --> 00:25:47.183
And a shaft of light

00:25:47.207 --> 00:25:48.704
 over my shoulder

00:25:48.728 --> 00:25:50.706
 and footsteps behind me.

00:25:50.730 --> 00:25:52.148
 And I didn't even know
 there were steps.

00:25:52.172 --> 00:25:53.869
I didn't remember
there were steps there.

00:25:53.893 --> 00:25:57.817
As I said, I wasn't too familiar
with that room.

00:25:58.218 --> 00:26:01.237
And this young SWAT officer

00:26:01.261 --> 00:26:03.759
comes down the steps and takes

00:26:03.783 --> 00:26:08.108
 myself and Carol Black
 out of the building.

00:26:09.189 --> 00:26:11.167
♪ ♪

00:26:11.191 --> 00:26:12.688
Magali:
 Celina, our daughter,

00:26:12.712 --> 00:26:17.317
she said, "Something happened
in Pittsburgh in Tree of Life.

00:26:18.798 --> 00:26:20.800
A shooting."

00:26:22.122 --> 00:26:26.606
And then, we tried
to call your mother.

00:26:27.207 --> 00:26:29.369
 She didn't answer.

00:26:30.210 --> 00:26:34.190
 And then, we told her,
"Are you sure?"

00:26:34.214 --> 00:26:37.313
 And maybe one hour later
 or maybe more,

00:26:37.337 --> 00:26:41.597
 we, we saw the television,
 the CNN, and then they said

00:26:41.621 --> 00:26:44.440
 there is something
happened in Pittsburgh.

00:26:44.464 --> 00:26:47.963
 And then the first thing
Adam ask

00:26:47.987 --> 00:26:50.406
 when we understood

00:26:50.430 --> 00:26:54.090
what happened exactly, he said,

00:26:54.114 --> 00:26:58.358
"Do you think someone
can come and kill us?"

00:27:06.366 --> 00:27:09.385
-(Director speaking)
-Yes.

00:27:09.409 --> 00:27:11.347
Nine.

00:27:11.371 --> 00:27:13.669
(Director speaking)

00:27:13.693 --> 00:27:15.895
I said yes.

00:27:22.262 --> 00:27:24.880
Augie:
I was in the men's
 bathroom sanctuary.

00:27:24.904 --> 00:27:27.323
 I heard pow, pow, pow,
 pow, pow, pow.

00:27:27.347 --> 00:27:29.965
And started making my way
through the sanctuary.

00:27:29.989 --> 00:27:31.647
Come through the lobby,

00:27:31.671 --> 00:27:34.250
 through the--
 just like a hallway

00:27:34.274 --> 00:27:35.811
 outside the chapel,

00:27:35.835 --> 00:27:38.214
 and I see a magazine
 on the floor,

00:27:38.238 --> 00:27:40.216
and I smell a lot of gunpowder.

00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:41.697
And I looked in the chapel
real quick,

00:27:41.721 --> 00:27:44.660
and then all I seen
was the lights on. That was it.

00:27:44.684 --> 00:27:47.023
I didn't see nobody.
I didn't hear nothing.

00:27:47.047 --> 00:27:50.346
Well, then I turned
and ran outta the building

00:27:50.370 --> 00:27:52.828
back, of course,
away from the gunfire.

00:27:52.852 --> 00:27:54.950
As soon as I got
to the exit door
in the sanctuary,

00:27:54.974 --> 00:27:58.554
I kicked it open
and got down on my knees

00:27:58.578 --> 00:27:59.635
and said,
"I'm just a custodian.

00:27:59.659 --> 00:28:02.102
I'm trying to get
outta the building."

00:28:02.342 --> 00:28:03.479
 They just pointed a gun at me,

00:28:03.503 --> 00:28:05.961
 and Steve Weiss,
 he just said really loud,

00:28:05.985 --> 00:28:07.883
 "That's Augie!
 That's the custodian,"

00:28:07.907 --> 00:28:09.765
and he pointed at me.

00:28:09.789 --> 00:28:13.329
And then when I got up on
the sidewalk on Shady Avenue,

00:28:13.353 --> 00:28:15.211
a Pittsburgh police officer
walked up.

00:28:15.235 --> 00:28:17.893
He had blood
coming down his head,

00:28:17.917 --> 00:28:19.615
and he was saying

00:28:19.639 --> 00:28:23.179
a word I can't say,
multiple times.

00:28:23.203 --> 00:28:27.183
I guess he had some kind
of confrontation with Bowers

00:28:27.207 --> 00:28:29.665
at the front door.
I'm not sure.

00:28:29.689 --> 00:28:31.547
♪ ♪

00:28:31.571 --> 00:28:35.911
Martin Gaynor:
All of the first responders
 were just amazing.

00:28:35.935 --> 00:28:38.498
I... (sighs)

00:28:40.540 --> 00:28:43.543
(inhales, exhales)

00:28:44.144 --> 00:28:46.946
I don't have the words...

00:28:47.547 --> 00:28:49.925
to describe...

00:28:49.949 --> 00:28:52.568
just how wonderful they were,

00:28:52.592 --> 00:28:55.611
and the depth of my gratitude.

00:28:55.635 --> 00:29:00.296
But, you know,
all of the police officers,

00:29:00.320 --> 00:29:04.900
our Pittsburgh Police, police
came from all over the region.

00:29:04.924 --> 00:29:06.302
The EMTs,

00:29:06.326 --> 00:29:10.106
they risked their lives
without hesitation.

00:29:10.130 --> 00:29:12.388
As you know,
four of our officers

00:29:12.412 --> 00:29:16.416
were wounded very badly, and...

00:29:17.737 --> 00:29:18.994
you know, of course, they--

00:29:19.019 --> 00:29:20.756
If you talk to any of them,
they'll say,

00:29:20.780 --> 00:29:23.463
"Oh, I was just doing my job."

00:29:23.663 --> 00:29:25.721
They refused to take, you know,

00:29:25.745 --> 00:29:28.364
act like they did
anything extraordinary.

00:29:28.388 --> 00:29:30.286
But, boy,

00:29:30.310 --> 00:29:33.049
as soon as
they got the notice,

00:29:33.073 --> 00:29:35.651
they were there, and

00:29:35.675 --> 00:29:37.413
they were in the building,

00:29:37.437 --> 00:29:39.375
and the EMTs went in

00:29:39.399 --> 00:29:42.898
when it was still
a very dangerous situation

00:29:42.922 --> 00:29:46.342
because they wanted to see
if they could save people.

00:29:46.366 --> 00:29:49.705
And thank God they did.
They saved Dan Leger.

00:29:49.729 --> 00:29:54.190
And if they had not,
he might not be here.

00:29:54.214 --> 00:29:57.353
(siren blaring)

00:29:57.377 --> 00:30:00.116
Dan:
I remember very little
 of the ambulance ride.

00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:02.278
 I remember arriving
at the hospital,

00:30:02.302 --> 00:30:06.122
 and then I don't remember
 anything until...

00:30:06.146 --> 00:30:08.764
um, I was looking up

00:30:08.788 --> 00:30:11.327
through what appeared
to be like gauze

00:30:11.351 --> 00:30:15.291
or cotton or clouds
or something.

00:30:15.315 --> 00:30:19.679
And seeing shadowy figures
around me.

00:30:19.959 --> 00:30:21.577
And I, um,

00:30:21.601 --> 00:30:23.739
and I remember
thinking to myself,

00:30:23.763 --> 00:30:27.423
"This is the chevra kadisha.
  This is the burial society.

00:30:27.447 --> 00:30:31.451
They have come to prepare me
to be buried."

00:30:31.771 --> 00:30:33.309
And I felt so comforted.

00:30:33.333 --> 00:30:37.153
I felt so completely comforted
by that notion

00:30:37.177 --> 00:30:40.740
that my friends
were there taking care of me.

00:30:41.461 --> 00:30:43.519
And then again, there's
a long period of time

00:30:43.543 --> 00:30:45.641
where I don't remember
much of anything.

00:30:45.665 --> 00:30:50.046
And I remember when
the breathing tube was removed.

00:30:50.070 --> 00:30:52.888
And I remember
looking and realizing

00:30:52.912 --> 00:30:58.078
that my family was around me
and saying that I loved you.

00:30:58.838 --> 00:31:02.218
And the third thing I said was,
"God forgive him."

00:31:02.242 --> 00:31:04.980
Reporter:
Alleged synagogue
 shooter Robert Bowers

00:31:05.005 --> 00:31:08.104
 is not believed to have
 a prior criminal history,

00:31:08.128 --> 00:31:10.026
 but social media posts
 attributed to him

00:31:10.050 --> 00:31:14.590
 contain antisemitic views
 and other hate speech.

00:31:14.614 --> 00:31:17.353
As awful as it sounds, um,

00:31:17.377 --> 00:31:21.557
and I'm not trying to say that--

00:31:21.581 --> 00:31:25.681
I'm not trying to, to, to give
the shooter a free pass here,

00:31:25.705 --> 00:31:28.764
but I know that he was made
in the image of God

00:31:28.788 --> 00:31:30.566
just like I am.
He's a human being.

00:31:30.590 --> 00:31:32.648
Antisemitism was a fuel.
It was a--

00:31:32.672 --> 00:31:36.412
It fueled other hate speech
that this suspect was posting.

00:31:36.436 --> 00:31:37.693
So it wasn't just antisemitism.

00:31:37.717 --> 00:31:39.815
It was also hate
about immigrants,

00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:41.177
hate about other individuals.

00:31:41.201 --> 00:31:44.420
But, at the core,
was this deep antisemitism

00:31:44.444 --> 00:31:46.462
that you see on his
a social media footprint.

00:31:46.486 --> 00:31:48.784
And several of
the messages that he was posting

00:31:48.808 --> 00:31:52.548
was against a Jewish refugee
resettlement agency.

00:31:52.572 --> 00:31:55.631
And that was his point, is that
one of the points he was making

00:31:55.655 --> 00:31:58.114
is that this agency
is bringing people in.

00:31:58.138 --> 00:31:59.915
And he said,
among many other things,

00:31:59.939 --> 00:32:02.582
that "my people
are being slaughtered."

00:32:02.902 --> 00:32:06.642
Ellen Surloff:
The days when synagogues
 just leave their doors open

00:32:06.666 --> 00:32:08.164
 and hope that, you know,

00:32:08.188 --> 00:32:10.606
 no one comes
 through the doors with a gun,

00:32:10.630 --> 00:32:12.648
 I think those days are gone.

00:32:12.672 --> 00:32:16.252
♪ ♪

00:32:16.276 --> 00:32:18.414
 Just before the shooting,

00:32:18.438 --> 00:32:19.615
we had the woman

00:32:19.639 --> 00:32:22.978
who was chair
of our social action committee

00:32:23.003 --> 00:32:25.781
had organized what was called

00:32:25.805 --> 00:32:28.464
 a HIAS-Shabbat.
And there were--

00:32:28.488 --> 00:32:31.227
 It was happening
 all over the country.

00:32:31.251 --> 00:32:32.628
 There was a particular Shabbat

00:32:32.652 --> 00:32:35.471
 that was to be focused
 on immigrants.

00:32:35.495 --> 00:32:38.314
 And apparently,
the HIAS website

00:32:38.338 --> 00:32:41.717
 listed congregations
that were participants,

00:32:41.741 --> 00:32:44.040
 and congregation Dor Hadash

00:32:44.064 --> 00:32:47.187
 was listed as a participant.

00:32:47.467 --> 00:32:49.085
That's how he knew that

00:32:49.109 --> 00:32:53.329
we had something
to do with immigrants.

00:32:53.353 --> 00:32:55.491
Pundit:
This person who
 committed this act

00:32:55.515 --> 00:32:57.893
 was very much
 against immigration.

00:32:57.917 --> 00:33:00.776
 Immigration to him meant

00:33:00.800 --> 00:33:02.578
the existential threat
to the white people.

00:33:02.602 --> 00:33:04.260
Donald Trump:
 At this very moment,

00:33:04.284 --> 00:33:06.902
 large, well-organized
 caravans of migrants

00:33:06.926 --> 00:33:11.187
 are marching toward
 our southern border.

00:33:11.211 --> 00:33:13.309
 Some people
 call it an invasion.

00:33:13.333 --> 00:33:14.470
 It's like an invasion.

00:33:14.494 --> 00:33:18.554
Rabbi Perlman:
There's a great fear
 among white people

00:33:18.578 --> 00:33:22.118
that whiteness
is dying in this country

00:33:22.142 --> 00:33:26.402
and that the culture
of white America

00:33:26.426 --> 00:33:28.964
has been diminished

00:33:28.988 --> 00:33:30.966
by Latin Americans,

00:33:30.990 --> 00:33:34.434
by Blacks, by Jews.

00:33:34.994 --> 00:33:37.093
And it's simply not true.

00:33:37.117 --> 00:33:38.734
I, Barack Hussein Obama,
do solemnly swear...

00:33:38.758 --> 00:33:43.219
Rabbi Perlman:
Part of that fear began with
 the election of Barack Obama.

00:33:43.243 --> 00:33:45.141
You know, as much
as we would like

00:33:45.165 --> 00:33:49.505
to celebrate the election
of the first Black president,

00:33:49.529 --> 00:33:53.549
 I think that a lot of
 these people retreated, um,

00:33:53.573 --> 00:33:57.393
 and they held
 a great deal of resentment.

00:33:57.417 --> 00:33:58.874
They didn't really know
what to think.

00:33:58.898 --> 00:34:00.996
Hey, I'm the guy on record
saying he is

00:34:01.021 --> 00:34:02.998
the Black Muslim anti-Christ.

00:34:03.023 --> 00:34:07.163
I think the election
of Donald Trump

00:34:07.187 --> 00:34:10.166
was a kind of triumph for them,

00:34:10.190 --> 00:34:12.208
 and it emboldened them.

00:34:12.232 --> 00:34:15.051
(crowd chattering)

00:34:15.075 --> 00:34:19.015
You know, the Second Amendment
speaks of forming militias.

00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.258
 I think that's what they're
 doing now in a quiet way.

00:34:22.282 --> 00:34:26.982
You know, they're doing it
over the Internet

00:34:27.007 --> 00:34:31.027
uh, and they are
using this language,

00:34:31.051 --> 00:34:33.349
 which if you
 compare the language

00:34:33.373 --> 00:34:36.032
 that they're using of

00:34:36.056 --> 00:34:38.314
invasion and replacement.

00:34:38.338 --> 00:34:41.197
The Democratic Party
is trying to replace

00:34:41.221 --> 00:34:42.798
the current electorate.

00:34:42.822 --> 00:34:45.321
It's appearing in
all of their manifestos.

00:34:45.345 --> 00:34:48.244
What they really want is
to replace white people

00:34:48.268 --> 00:34:49.005
in white countries.

00:34:49.029 --> 00:34:51.487
Before I go on,
I want to clarify "they."

00:34:51.511 --> 00:34:55.211
-Man 1: Evil elite Jew.
  -Man 2:Jewish elite.

00:34:55.235 --> 00:34:56.292
The Jewish mafia.

00:34:56.316 --> 00:34:57.613
Jew-dominated globalism.

00:34:57.637 --> 00:35:03.059
Rabbi Perlman:
They're taking it
 to the streets with their,

00:35:03.083 --> 00:35:05.781
 you know,
 semiautomatic rifles

00:35:05.805 --> 00:35:08.144
which they were allowed to have.

00:35:08.168 --> 00:35:12.812
You know, they, they're
in a struggle for their lives.

00:35:13.733 --> 00:35:16.272
They believe what they hear,

00:35:16.296 --> 00:35:18.994
and it scares them a great deal

00:35:19.019 --> 00:35:21.037
that their country
is being taken over.

00:35:21.061 --> 00:35:25.041
Some of the white
supremacist actions

00:35:25.065 --> 00:35:28.444
that are happening
outside of America

00:35:28.468 --> 00:35:29.285
are happening in Europe.

00:35:29.309 --> 00:35:31.887
There was something
that happened in Norway
a few years ago.

00:35:31.911 --> 00:35:36.052
 This attack in New Zealand,
 was really,

00:35:36.076 --> 00:35:38.974
really a fear about Australia

00:35:38.998 --> 00:35:43.059
and what's happening
in that part of the world.

00:35:43.083 --> 00:35:45.821
And these terrorists

00:35:45.845 --> 00:35:49.929
 are trying to make
 a statement about

00:35:50.130 --> 00:35:55.015
the position of whiteness
in this world.

00:36:00.140 --> 00:36:02.638
♪ ♪

00:36:02.662 --> 00:36:06.266
(crowd chattering)

00:36:06.866 --> 00:36:08.404
Classmates threw pennies

00:36:08.428 --> 00:36:10.966
because Jews have always been
accused of being cheap,

00:36:10.990 --> 00:36:13.249
so they would expect
that I would go

00:36:13.273 --> 00:36:14.290
and pick up the pennies.

00:36:14.314 --> 00:36:17.373
The worst was
I came home one day.

00:36:17.397 --> 00:36:19.895
There were swastikas
on my driveway

00:36:19.919 --> 00:36:21.537
with "Jeffrey's a dirty Jew."

00:36:21.561 --> 00:36:25.861
So that was my introduction
to learning about the Holocaust.

00:36:25.885 --> 00:36:29.329
♪ ♪

00:36:30.370 --> 00:36:34.934
 We've seen within
 the previous century

00:36:35.295 --> 00:36:37.233
the horrors of
what antisemitism

00:36:37.257 --> 00:36:38.194
can, can wreak upon people

00:36:38.218 --> 00:36:40.836
that we would think
of are civilized,

00:36:40.860 --> 00:36:41.797
 that could behave that way.

00:36:41.821 --> 00:36:45.281
Reporter:
 This was Madison Square
Garden in New York City.

00:36:45.305 --> 00:36:48.244
(crowd chanting)

00:36:48.268 --> 00:36:50.166
 They wore Hitler's uniform,

00:36:50.190 --> 00:36:51.607
 but they wrapped themselves

00:36:51.631 --> 00:36:53.089
 in the American flag.

00:36:53.113 --> 00:36:55.531
-Heil Hitler.
-Heil Hitler.

00:36:55.555 --> 00:36:57.373
Mother:
Who do we don't like?

00:36:57.397 --> 00:36:59.975
-Child: Niggers.
-Who else?

00:36:59.999 --> 00:37:01.961
Uh, Jews.

00:37:04.924 --> 00:37:06.502
The danger of antisemitism

00:37:06.526 --> 00:37:09.025
is it doesn't stop
with antisemitism.

00:37:09.049 --> 00:37:12.148
It, it denotes a moral decay

00:37:12.172 --> 00:37:15.191
in humanity when
you're gonna treat people

00:37:15.215 --> 00:37:19.579
as an other and think
of them as less than human.

00:37:20.100 --> 00:37:22.318
(typing)

00:37:22.342 --> 00:37:25.345
(typing)

00:37:27.667 --> 00:37:30.766
(rock music playing)

00:37:30.790 --> 00:37:34.394
(crowd chattering)

00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:43.203
(person singing)

00:38:02.622 --> 00:38:05.321
(song fades out)

00:38:05.345 --> 00:38:09.229
(wind blowing, leaves rustling)

00:38:14.154 --> 00:38:17.997
(singing in Hebrew)

00:38:22.082 --> 00:38:25.725
(singing continues)

00:38:30.970 --> 00:38:34.454
(inaudible)

00:38:36.856 --> 00:38:40.500
(singing continues)

00:38:42.702 --> 00:38:48.668
♪ ♪

00:38:54.594 --> 00:38:58.078
(singing)

00:39:01.281 --> 00:39:04.964
(singing continues)

00:39:07.567 --> 00:39:09.609
(singing ends)

00:39:14.374 --> 00:39:19.035
Ron Wedner:
There's a lot of reliance
 on religion in our country,

00:39:19.059 --> 00:39:21.397
 and I think everybody
seemed touched,

00:39:21.421 --> 00:39:24.400
whether they're Jewish
or Catholic or Muslim

00:39:24.424 --> 00:39:26.202
or, or any other religion,

00:39:26.226 --> 00:39:28.564
that this could happen to them.

00:39:28.588 --> 00:39:31.847
It's not some random shooting.
It was...

00:39:31.871 --> 00:39:35.251
a crime against people who--

00:39:35.275 --> 00:39:39.015
They were only shot because
of what they believed in.

00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:41.497
♪ ♪

00:39:41.521 --> 00:39:46.006
(crowd chattering)

00:39:47.567 --> 00:39:50.146
Wasi Mohamed:
What the Jewish community today,

00:39:50.170 --> 00:39:51.187
despite facing a tragedy,

00:39:51.211 --> 00:39:53.389
what they did for the world
was so important.

00:39:53.413 --> 00:39:56.592
 What the Pittsburgh community
 did was so important

00:39:56.616 --> 00:39:57.753
 because of that evil,

00:39:57.777 --> 00:40:00.116
 every single person
touched by that,

00:40:00.140 --> 00:40:03.559
hundreds of thousands of people
 around the world,

00:40:03.583 --> 00:40:06.602
 all responded
 with acts of goodness.

00:40:06.626 --> 00:40:10.910
(singing in Hebrew)

00:40:12.072 --> 00:40:13.609
(singing fades out)

00:40:13.633 --> 00:40:15.571
Wasi:
My family is largely
 always from,

00:40:15.595 --> 00:40:18.694
like, everybody that I've known,
at least generationally,

00:40:18.718 --> 00:40:20.176
is from Madras, Chennai,
in India.

00:40:20.200 --> 00:40:22.618
So southern India
and Tamil Nadu, the region.

00:40:22.642 --> 00:40:26.662
So they came here
like in the late '80s, 1990.

00:40:26.686 --> 00:40:31.347
You know, my mom came here
a little bit before my father.

00:40:31.371 --> 00:40:33.229
Then my brother was born in '91.

00:40:33.253 --> 00:40:36.272
And then I was born in '92
in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania,

00:40:36.296 --> 00:40:39.299
capital of
the Keystone State. Yeah.

00:40:39.739 --> 00:40:40.916
I think a lot of people
were surprised

00:40:40.940 --> 00:40:44.400
to see the Muslim community
of all communities step up

00:40:44.424 --> 00:40:45.441
and help the Jewish community.

00:40:45.465 --> 00:40:46.842
And I think it's because
of misconceptions

00:40:46.866 --> 00:40:49.605
about both of our communities
that people were so surprised.

00:40:49.629 --> 00:40:51.367
But our religions
are very similar.

00:40:51.391 --> 00:40:54.130
Our traditions are similar.
Our values are similar.

00:40:54.154 --> 00:40:56.492
 Our burial practices
 are very similar.

00:40:56.516 --> 00:40:59.839
They're gonna bury
in a couple of days.

00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:02.778
 I knew that Ralph Schugar
 Funeral Home

00:41:02.802 --> 00:41:03.659
 is where people go.

00:41:03.683 --> 00:41:04.820
And so, I called them and said,

00:41:04.844 --> 00:41:06.782
 "Hey, I'm from the Islamic
 Center of Pittsburgh.

00:41:06.806 --> 00:41:09.705
"We raised enough money
to cover every single funeral.

00:41:09.729 --> 00:41:11.627
No matter what, just don't
send anybody a bill."

00:41:11.651 --> 00:41:15.351
Quite frankly, we did not have
that money, you know, like we--

00:41:15.375 --> 00:41:17.233
I just was confident
in our community.

00:41:17.257 --> 00:41:20.796
So then immediately,
we started to do a fundraiser.

00:41:20.820 --> 00:41:24.320
♪ ♪

00:41:24.344 --> 00:41:28.604
 Just that online fundraiser
 was $250,000.

00:41:28.628 --> 00:41:32.168
 That was what was meant to
 ensure that nobody would have

00:41:32.192 --> 00:41:34.530
 to worry about burial costs
 at a time like this,

00:41:34.554 --> 00:41:36.252
or medical costs
at a time like this.

00:41:36.276 --> 00:41:38.654
We just wanted people
to focus on mourning.

00:41:38.678 --> 00:41:40.640
♪ ♪

00:41:47.727 --> 00:41:51.347
(siren fading in, blaring)

00:41:51.371 --> 00:41:55.095
(crowd noise fading in)

00:41:57.057 --> 00:41:58.474
(angry yelling)

00:41:58.498 --> 00:42:03.479
Protester:
Let the families grieve!
This is our neighborhood!

00:42:03.503 --> 00:42:06.186
You are not welcome here!

00:42:08.908 --> 00:42:11.327
Ellen:
 I remember getting a call

00:42:11.351 --> 00:42:13.569
 from a Dor Hadash congregant,

00:42:13.593 --> 00:42:16.692
 and she was beside
 herself. She said,

00:42:16.716 --> 00:42:18.494
"They're blocking off
Tree of Life.

00:42:18.518 --> 00:42:21.137
"The police are there.
They're blocking it off.

00:42:21.161 --> 00:42:22.818
I think Trump is coming."

00:42:22.842 --> 00:42:25.581
And we had no idea
that he was coming

00:42:25.605 --> 00:42:28.344
to the actual
Tree of Life building.

00:42:28.368 --> 00:42:30.346
(sirens continue)

00:42:30.370 --> 00:42:32.868
(shutters snapping)

00:42:32.892 --> 00:42:35.231
I live two blocks
away from here.

00:42:35.255 --> 00:42:36.392
Both my daughters are Jewish.

00:42:36.416 --> 00:42:39.435
They were threatened
to be killed several days ago.

00:42:39.459 --> 00:42:41.917
And Trump is using
this opportunity

00:42:41.941 --> 00:42:43.799
of grief to promote the hate

00:42:43.823 --> 00:42:47.123
that generated this situation
in the first place.

00:42:47.147 --> 00:42:48.964
I don't care if they arrest me!

00:42:48.988 --> 00:42:51.327
I care if my kids
live in a world

00:42:51.351 --> 00:42:54.050
where they're gonna be
killed for being Jewish!

00:42:54.074 --> 00:42:55.331
I care if kids live in a world

00:42:55.355 --> 00:42:57.453
that they're gonna be
killed for being Black!

00:42:57.477 --> 00:42:59.615
I care if kids
are gonna be killed

00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:01.737
if we're living in a world
if they're immigrants!

00:43:01.761 --> 00:43:04.844
(Mourner speaking)

00:43:08.168 --> 00:43:09.945
Protester:
Trump is not respected.

00:43:09.969 --> 00:43:14.454
I care. I care because it's
the future of my daughters.

00:43:19.179 --> 00:43:20.236
We're grieving.

00:43:20.260 --> 00:43:23.903
(singing in Hebrew)

00:43:29.509 --> 00:43:33.553
-(singing continues)
-(drum playing)

00:43:41.281 --> 00:43:43.179
I'm not a very political person.

00:43:43.203 --> 00:43:45.941
I think that as the President
of the United States,

00:43:45.965 --> 00:43:49.505
it certainly was within his
right to come and visit

00:43:49.529 --> 00:43:52.828
and try to show that
he's here supporting us.

00:43:52.852 --> 00:43:56.472
I think that there are a lot
of people that don't like Trump.

00:43:56.496 --> 00:43:58.474
I had no problem
with him coming here.

00:43:58.498 --> 00:44:02.182
(singing continues)

00:44:05.305 --> 00:44:07.843
If the president,
whoever it is,

00:44:07.867 --> 00:44:12.688
wants to come, the president
should be welcomed.

00:44:12.712 --> 00:44:13.929
 But President Trump

00:44:13.953 --> 00:44:17.853
 gets support from
the white nationalists.

00:44:17.877 --> 00:44:20.696
 The protesters were right

00:44:20.720 --> 00:44:22.658
 to express their opinions,

00:44:22.682 --> 00:44:25.901
 and President Trump
 should have paid attention

00:44:25.925 --> 00:44:27.863
 to what they were saying.

00:44:27.887 --> 00:44:31.571
(singing in Hebrew)

00:44:33.253 --> 00:44:37.313
This was distributed
throughout our communities.

00:44:37.337 --> 00:44:40.516
This is an actual bag
with birdseed

00:44:40.540 --> 00:44:44.480
and a flier
from the Ku Klux Klan.

00:44:44.504 --> 00:44:45.801
It's a delivery system.

00:44:45.825 --> 00:44:49.565
You can distribute them
from a car.

00:44:49.589 --> 00:44:52.608
 After the Tree of Life
 massacre,

00:44:52.632 --> 00:44:54.770
 probably about
 30 or 40 of these

00:44:54.794 --> 00:44:58.414
 were thrown about
 in the Squirrel Hill area,

00:44:58.438 --> 00:45:01.321
 referring to Jews as Satan.

00:45:01.721 --> 00:45:04.780
These groups are emboldened,

00:45:04.804 --> 00:45:08.008
they're empowered,
and they're vocal.

00:45:08.328 --> 00:45:11.211
And they feel they can be now.

00:45:12.212 --> 00:45:13.549
Director:
Why?

00:45:13.573 --> 00:45:15.631
♪ ♪

00:45:15.655 --> 00:45:19.915
I'm gonna stop you there.
I'm a really apolitical guy.

00:45:19.939 --> 00:45:21.437
We both know the answer. Okay?

00:45:21.461 --> 00:45:23.919
We all know what the answer is,
and I'm not gonna answer it.

00:45:23.943 --> 00:45:27.707
(fading out)
Okay, I'm not gonna
answer that question.

00:45:28.828 --> 00:45:30.246
♪ ♪

00:45:30.270 --> 00:45:33.793
(traffic noise)

00:45:41.881 --> 00:45:43.379
Reporter:
 The Squirrel Hill community

00:45:43.403 --> 00:45:45.301
 filled the Temple Sinai
 Synagogue,

00:45:45.325 --> 00:45:47.463
 hugging each other tightly
 with tears in their eyes,

00:45:47.487 --> 00:45:50.146
 promising to stand strong
 against gun violence.

00:45:50.170 --> 00:45:53.813
Carolyn Ban:
 We will never forget
those we lost...

00:45:54.734 --> 00:45:57.553
as we work to keep others safe

00:45:57.577 --> 00:45:59.675
and spare other families

00:45:59.699 --> 00:46:00.676
such terrible losses.

00:46:00.700 --> 00:46:03.719
Reporter:
Following the attack on
 the Tree of Life Synagogue,

00:46:03.743 --> 00:46:04.440
 the community formed

00:46:04.464 --> 00:46:06.442
 Squirrel Hill
 Stands Against Gun Violence,

00:46:06.466 --> 00:46:09.005
 working with community leaders
 and survivors

00:46:09.029 --> 00:46:09.885
 to find solutions.

00:46:09.909 --> 00:46:13.329
We have to be here
to be able to support

00:46:13.353 --> 00:46:16.556
and encourage
our local leaders

00:46:16.836 --> 00:46:18.534
as they pass legislation

00:46:18.558 --> 00:46:22.658
that our federal and state
government is too broken

00:46:22.682 --> 00:46:25.941
and too inept to
take care of for us.

00:46:25.965 --> 00:46:28.024
(applause)

00:46:28.048 --> 00:46:32.148
Brad Orsini:
If we didn't change
 gun regulation

00:46:32.172 --> 00:46:33.349
 and gun laws

00:46:33.373 --> 00:46:37.937
after Sandy Hook,
I don't know that we ever will.

00:46:38.178 --> 00:46:42.182
I hope and pray there's a day
where we do do that.

00:46:42.542 --> 00:46:44.800
I'm a marine.
I'm an FBI agent.

00:46:44.824 --> 00:46:49.549
I've carried a gun
my entire professional career.

00:46:49.829 --> 00:46:50.846
I think too many people
have guns

00:46:50.870 --> 00:46:55.115
that should not have guns
and that are not qualified...

00:46:55.715 --> 00:47:00.160
and fit and sound
to carry that weapon.

00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:05.181
Speaker: (fading in)
...the right of the people,
 to keep and bear arms,

00:47:05.205 --> 00:47:07.983
shall not be infringed.

00:47:08.008 --> 00:47:11.571
(crowd cheering)

00:47:13.973 --> 00:47:16.536
Inalienable rights!

00:47:17.257 --> 00:47:19.859
(indistinct chanting)

00:47:21.621 --> 00:47:23.783
Crowd:
USA! USA! USA!

00:47:31.711 --> 00:47:33.833
Don't... Don't...

00:47:38.278 --> 00:47:42.698
Speaker:
I traveled here from Beaver
County for one reason.

00:47:42.722 --> 00:47:45.141
If we let this shit
happen here,

00:47:45.165 --> 00:47:48.064
before you know it,
it'll be in everybody's backyard

00:47:48.088 --> 00:47:49.425
across our nation!

00:47:49.449 --> 00:47:53.253
(crowd cheering, fading out)

00:48:03.303 --> 00:48:06.001
Gun Shop Owner:
They were talking about
 tearing the building down,

00:48:06.026 --> 00:48:08.244
 and it was boarded up
 for a while,

00:48:08.268 --> 00:48:12.368
 and we got it pretty cheap,
 but it was in rough shape.

00:48:12.392 --> 00:48:15.771
I've honestly have not
had one person,

00:48:15.795 --> 00:48:19.455
and I've had hundreds of people,

00:48:19.479 --> 00:48:21.737
you know,
Jewish religion, come in,

00:48:21.761 --> 00:48:22.818
and I have not had

00:48:22.842 --> 00:48:25.981
 one person come in
 and have a problem with it.

00:48:26.006 --> 00:48:29.185
 Anyone I've talked to,
they were happy

00:48:29.209 --> 00:48:31.147
 that we saved the building.

00:48:31.171 --> 00:48:34.750
Director:
Did you hear about
 the Tree of Life shooting?

00:48:34.774 --> 00:48:37.817
It's a shame.
It truly is a shame.

00:48:38.298 --> 00:48:39.795
I, I have no...

00:48:39.819 --> 00:48:42.478
I don't think I have
a racist bone in my body,

00:48:42.502 --> 00:48:44.440
to be honest with you,
in any way.

00:48:44.464 --> 00:48:46.322
Just the way I tick,
I don't know,

00:48:46.346 --> 00:48:50.166
I can't understand people
that have that hate.

00:48:50.190 --> 00:48:52.288
I just-- I can't, you know.

00:48:52.312 --> 00:48:56.012
I'm at a point now,
I'm 62, that,

00:48:56.036 --> 00:48:57.213
you know, I--

00:48:57.237 --> 00:48:59.055
I'd have trouble hunting,
I think.

00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:00.136
I haven't hunted
for a few years,

00:49:00.160 --> 00:49:03.923
and just, you know,
killing an animal now.

00:49:04.244 --> 00:49:05.821
Believe me,
I would quit selling guns

00:49:05.845 --> 00:49:08.104
if I thought it would
make a difference.

00:49:08.128 --> 00:49:11.187
And I mean--
just what really upsets me

00:49:11.211 --> 00:49:15.655
is as soon as there's
a shooting, okay,

00:49:16.016 --> 00:49:17.553
you have the agenda people up,

00:49:17.577 --> 00:49:20.076
and they, you know,
they wanna ban assault rifles.

00:49:20.100 --> 00:49:23.319
 And banning assault rifles
isn't gonna do anything.

00:49:23.343 --> 00:49:26.682
 Better background checks,
 I'm all for that,

00:49:26.706 --> 00:49:29.269
 but even that is a Band-Aid.

00:49:29.549 --> 00:49:32.568
 Common sense just tells you

00:49:32.592 --> 00:49:34.010
that it's, you know...

00:49:34.034 --> 00:49:35.771
these people
aren't gonna give up their--

00:49:35.795 --> 00:49:36.692
especially the criminals.

00:49:36.716 --> 00:49:38.654
They're not gonna
give up their guns.

00:49:38.678 --> 00:49:41.377
If anything, I would think,

00:49:41.401 --> 00:49:44.244
 you know,
 to arm more people.

00:49:51.371 --> 00:49:55.175
(quiet chatter fading in)

00:49:58.058 --> 00:50:01.021
(indistinct)

00:50:03.743 --> 00:50:05.721
Host:
Thank you all for coming

00:50:05.745 --> 00:50:09.845
because this is
really important.

00:50:09.869 --> 00:50:12.408
And we as a congregation,
or anywhere,

00:50:12.432 --> 00:50:16.412
can spend an infinite
amount of money on security

00:50:16.436 --> 00:50:18.734
and have the best security
in the world,

00:50:18.758 --> 00:50:21.817
but your power
is in your knowledge

00:50:21.841 --> 00:50:24.700
and your ability
to respond in a situation,

00:50:24.724 --> 00:50:28.048
which is what Brad
is here to show us.

00:50:28.288 --> 00:50:32.532
-Good evening, everybody.
-(applause)

00:50:33.053 --> 00:50:35.631
We're gonna talk about
some things today

00:50:35.655 --> 00:50:38.274
that are hard to hear.

00:50:38.298 --> 00:50:40.396
We're gonna talk about death.

00:50:40.420 --> 00:50:42.942
We're gonna talk about violence.

00:50:43.223 --> 00:50:46.922
We're here talking about it
in a synagogue,

00:50:46.946 --> 00:50:48.764
in our house of worship,

00:50:48.788 --> 00:50:52.688
because we've had and suffered
the worst massacre

00:50:52.712 --> 00:50:54.914
in our nation's history

00:50:55.115 --> 00:50:57.533
to the Jewish population, right?

00:50:57.557 --> 00:50:59.295
Since the year 2000,

00:50:59.319 --> 00:51:01.337
active shooters,
that active threat,

00:51:01.361 --> 00:51:03.419
has increased every single year.

00:51:03.443 --> 00:51:07.727
I am gonna talk about
a commitment to action.

00:51:08.008 --> 00:51:11.027
We have to learn how to survive

00:51:11.051 --> 00:51:12.548
for three to five minutes.

00:51:12.572 --> 00:51:15.591
And that three to five minutes
is that time frame

00:51:15.615 --> 00:51:19.435
when we call police till
first responders typically come.

00:51:19.459 --> 00:51:23.463
Steve is a member
of Tree of Life.

00:51:24.104 --> 00:51:27.563
Steve was there that morning

00:51:27.587 --> 00:51:29.125
on October 27th.

00:51:29.149 --> 00:51:34.154
And thank God Steve is
standing with us here today.

00:51:34.474 --> 00:51:36.636
With that, Steve?

00:51:36.916 --> 00:51:38.838
Stephen:
Thank you.

00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:41.377
Good evening.

00:51:41.401 --> 00:51:43.059
I'd like to just tell you
a little bit about

00:51:43.083 --> 00:51:46.862
what happened on Saturday
morning, October 27th.

00:51:46.886 --> 00:51:48.744
As the rabbi
finished the kadesh,

00:51:48.768 --> 00:51:50.466
I started walking
into the doorway

00:51:50.490 --> 00:51:51.787
to go out into the lobby,

00:51:51.811 --> 00:51:54.270
and there were a series
of four or five shots

00:51:54.294 --> 00:51:56.872
that occurred in succession.
And while I'm standing there,

00:51:56.896 --> 00:52:00.476
I can watch the brass bounce
across the floor in front of me.

00:52:00.500 --> 00:52:02.518
And I remembered
training that I had

00:52:02.542 --> 00:52:05.121
in September of 2017 with Brad

00:52:05.145 --> 00:52:07.683
where he came into
our religious school.

00:52:07.707 --> 00:52:10.646
 I'm doing pretty well.
 I mean, I've had a chance

00:52:10.670 --> 00:52:13.049
to talk with
my students in school,

00:52:13.073 --> 00:52:17.173
with a social worker in school,
with a lot of different people,

00:52:17.197 --> 00:52:18.614
and that's really helped me

00:52:18.638 --> 00:52:20.856
work through a lot
of this in my mind.

00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:23.659
I ran up the side of the chapel,

00:52:23.683 --> 00:52:24.820
across the bimah,

00:52:24.844 --> 00:52:28.448
and out a door that's on
that side of the bimah.

00:52:28.688 --> 00:52:29.945
As I was going out
of the door,

00:52:29.969 --> 00:52:33.669
shots were starting to happen
in the chapel itself.

00:52:33.693 --> 00:52:35.751
I look back on it and, to me,

00:52:35.775 --> 00:52:38.314
God has a reason
why I'm still here.

00:52:38.338 --> 00:52:39.995
I went down a back stairway.

00:52:40.020 --> 00:52:42.438
I wanted to alert
the New Light Congregation

00:52:42.462 --> 00:52:46.001
that was downstairs, getting
ready to start their services.

00:52:46.026 --> 00:52:48.164
And I've kind of taken
on a mission

00:52:48.188 --> 00:52:51.287
to really try to promote
ALICE training

00:52:51.311 --> 00:52:54.290
kind of as my personal
take-out of this whole thing

00:52:54.314 --> 00:52:57.693
because I really credit that
training with saving my life.

00:52:57.717 --> 00:53:01.537
I came back up the steps,
went out the main sanctuary,

00:53:01.561 --> 00:53:04.140
and out a side door
on to Shady Avenue.

00:53:04.164 --> 00:53:08.664
And about 30 seconds later,
the first patrol car pulled up.

00:53:08.688 --> 00:53:12.708
And so, it's up to each one
of us to learn this

00:53:12.732 --> 00:53:15.111
because it can save your life.

00:53:15.135 --> 00:53:17.713
-Brad: Thank you, Steve.
-Stephen: It's devastating.

00:53:17.737 --> 00:53:19.755
You just start thinking
about each one of them

00:53:19.779 --> 00:53:23.719
and how you knew each one and
how long you've known each one.

00:53:23.743 --> 00:53:26.082
Rose Mallinger,
I taught her grandchildren

00:53:26.106 --> 00:53:28.564
their bar and bat mitzvahs.

00:53:28.588 --> 00:53:32.448
Sylvan and Bernice Simon.
Bernice knew my mom.

00:53:32.472 --> 00:53:35.331
You know, just
the little things like that.

00:53:35.355 --> 00:53:37.213
But you can't help,
you know,

00:53:37.237 --> 00:53:39.335
you have to think about them.

00:53:39.359 --> 00:53:41.337
All of us have
such different memories

00:53:41.361 --> 00:53:43.419
and associations with them,

00:53:43.443 --> 00:53:45.301
but I think that their memories

00:53:45.325 --> 00:53:48.624
really are what we would call
a blessing for all of us,

00:53:48.648 --> 00:53:52.828
and that part of them
continues to live on within us.

00:53:52.852 --> 00:53:56.616
-(quiet chatter)
-(phone ringing)

00:54:00.380 --> 00:54:04.640
Reporter 1:
I was wondering if you formed
 any relationship from people

00:54:04.664 --> 00:54:05.601
 in other cities

00:54:05.625 --> 00:54:08.964
who have also gone
through mass shootings

00:54:08.988 --> 00:54:12.328
-or other similar events.
-Parkland has been here

00:54:12.352 --> 00:54:16.092
and the church in Charleston,
they were here.

00:54:16.116 --> 00:54:20.216
And those were
really helpful times

00:54:20.240 --> 00:54:22.642
that we spent because...

00:54:23.083 --> 00:54:25.301
they were,
especially Charleston.

00:54:25.325 --> 00:54:27.143
It's been five years?

00:54:27.167 --> 00:54:31.387
So, they had some
time to, um, to heal

00:54:31.411 --> 00:54:34.990
and their knowledge
is very helpful.

00:54:35.015 --> 00:54:39.195
There's a few people
from Parkland that I...

00:54:39.219 --> 00:54:42.798
It's crazy. When there's
a shooting, we text each other

00:54:42.822 --> 00:54:45.801
because you only
can relate to...

00:54:45.825 --> 00:54:50.366
You can relate to each other.
You just know that...

00:54:50.390 --> 00:54:52.288
You know what
each other is feeling.

00:54:52.312 --> 00:54:54.570
Reporter 2:
Michele, this question
is for you. We read a lot

00:54:54.594 --> 00:54:59.415
about your brothers
that many of us never knew.

00:54:59.439 --> 00:55:03.539
If you had the chance
to write about your brothers,

00:55:03.563 --> 00:55:07.023
and how would you put it
into your words?

00:55:07.047 --> 00:55:09.665
♪ ♪

00:55:09.689 --> 00:55:13.229
(singing in Hebrew fades in)

00:55:13.253 --> 00:55:14.030
(singing continues)

00:55:14.054 --> 00:55:17.393
Michele Rosenthal:
 I don't know two people
who were happier

00:55:17.417 --> 00:55:19.715
 living the life that they had.

00:55:19.739 --> 00:55:22.438
(singing continues)

00:55:22.462 --> 00:55:23.839
 They would carry the Torah,

00:55:23.863 --> 00:55:26.282
 and it meant a lot to them.

00:55:26.306 --> 00:55:29.125
It's an honor
to do something like that,

00:55:29.149 --> 00:55:30.806
but for them,
it was a true honor.

00:55:30.830 --> 00:55:32.488
And they were so proud
of themselves

00:55:32.512 --> 00:55:33.409
when they were able to do it.

00:55:33.433 --> 00:55:35.931
And then the rabbi
had reached out to me

00:55:35.955 --> 00:55:38.734
and asked me if I would
carry Torah on Yom Kippur,

00:55:38.758 --> 00:55:41.897
which was an absolute yes,

00:55:41.921 --> 00:55:44.764
because it was to honor Cecil.

00:55:45.125 --> 00:55:48.744
But, I have to say, that day...

00:55:48.768 --> 00:55:50.746
I thought I was ready,
and I wasn't ready.

00:55:50.770 --> 00:55:53.909
And it was probably
one of the hardest things

00:55:53.933 --> 00:55:55.911
because I heard stories
from people

00:55:55.935 --> 00:55:59.115
where kids from the congregation

00:55:59.139 --> 00:56:01.437
who had gone
with their parents were like,

00:56:01.461 --> 00:56:04.160
"That was Cecil's.
That was Cecil's job."

00:56:04.184 --> 00:56:06.602
So, it was just really hard
and I just,

00:56:06.626 --> 00:56:08.924
I reached out to Cecil
in my mind and just said,

00:56:08.948 --> 00:56:11.607
"Please get me through this."

00:56:11.631 --> 00:56:13.489
♪ ♪

00:56:13.513 --> 00:56:16.172
Diane Rosenthal:
They learned this through
 all the years,

00:56:16.196 --> 00:56:17.573
going to synagogue with Michele

00:56:17.597 --> 00:56:20.216
 and my grandmother
and my parents,

00:56:20.240 --> 00:56:23.179
 how to davenand how to--

00:56:23.203 --> 00:56:25.061
 what the order of
the service was.

00:56:25.085 --> 00:56:26.862
 So, they knew it by heart

00:56:26.886 --> 00:56:28.104
 because they were
 there every weekend.

00:56:28.128 --> 00:56:32.492
 So it was just an integral
 part of their life.

00:56:33.093 --> 00:56:36.152
♪ ♪

00:56:36.176 --> 00:56:39.475
Eliezer Rosenthal:
They would come home
 on the Sabbath

00:56:39.499 --> 00:56:40.996
or holidays and say,

00:56:41.021 --> 00:56:45.281
"I opened the ark,"
or "I carried the Torah."

00:56:45.305 --> 00:56:47.883
And I was real proud
of doing that.

00:56:47.907 --> 00:56:50.446
And you could notice
that in the smiles

00:56:50.470 --> 00:56:53.409
as he walked around
with the Torah,

00:56:53.433 --> 00:56:55.331
with the smile on his face.

00:56:55.355 --> 00:56:59.215
-I mean, it's an honor.
-He came home and said,
"Mom and Dad,

00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:01.137
 are you proud of me?"

00:57:01.161 --> 00:57:04.404
 And we were very proud,
and we told him.

00:57:05.685 --> 00:57:08.144
Joy Rosenthal:
 We did not learn

00:57:08.168 --> 00:57:09.945
about their learning disability.

00:57:09.969 --> 00:57:12.908
They developed physically good,

00:57:12.932 --> 00:57:16.192
until it was time for education,

00:57:16.216 --> 00:57:19.515
like kindergarten
and first grade.

00:57:19.539 --> 00:57:23.759
They had no more
learning ability

00:57:23.783 --> 00:57:28.564
of that of maybe
a 5-, 6-year-old.

00:57:28.588 --> 00:57:32.328
 But, I raised them

00:57:32.352 --> 00:57:35.115
 like normal children.

00:57:37.197 --> 00:57:38.974
They were, they were--

00:57:38.998 --> 00:57:41.057
I think they were given to us

00:57:41.081 --> 00:57:44.420
because God felt we could do it.

00:57:44.444 --> 00:57:46.702
And I hope we did.

00:57:46.726 --> 00:57:48.464
(emotional inhale)

00:57:48.488 --> 00:57:52.772
And I think there was a time
that God felt...

00:57:53.253 --> 00:57:57.873
that it was time for him
to take the boys back,

00:57:57.897 --> 00:58:02.598
knowing if we had passed
before the boys,

00:58:02.622 --> 00:58:05.241
how would they have handled it.

00:58:05.265 --> 00:58:08.204
And we tried to explain
to the boys

00:58:08.228 --> 00:58:12.568
if something happens to us,
what happens?

00:58:12.592 --> 00:58:13.969
♪ ♪

00:58:13.993 --> 00:58:16.492
And Cecil's remark was that,

00:58:16.516 --> 00:58:19.775
"Father, I don't
want you to die."

00:58:19.799 --> 00:58:22.218
Well, that sort of
cracked me up,

00:58:22.242 --> 00:58:24.620
and I dropped the subject.

00:58:24.644 --> 00:58:26.902
I was protective of them.

00:58:26.926 --> 00:58:29.185
I didn't want them
to get hurt by people

00:58:29.209 --> 00:58:32.988
because I think I saw what--
how society could treat people.

00:58:33.013 --> 00:58:38.074
And I think what we found out
after this horrific tragedy

00:58:38.098 --> 00:58:40.396
is they actually did
a pretty good job

00:58:40.420 --> 00:58:41.277
of taking care of themselves.

00:58:41.301 --> 00:58:46.026
So the protection that we might
have tried to give them...

00:58:47.147 --> 00:58:49.165
-They were okay.
-(soft laugh)

00:58:49.189 --> 00:58:52.608
Diane:
They knew more people
than my sister and I combined.

00:58:52.632 --> 00:58:56.372
People came out of the woodwork
that knew them. Shop owners,

00:58:56.396 --> 00:58:58.934
-waitresses, bus drivers.
-Michele: Bus drivers.

00:58:58.958 --> 00:59:01.697
-The fire--
-Firemen, policemen.

00:59:01.721 --> 00:59:02.938
And they knew them by name.

00:59:02.962 --> 00:59:06.382
The people that
loved David and Cecil...

00:59:06.406 --> 00:59:08.824
I guess we probably
took it for granted,

00:59:08.848 --> 00:59:10.826
and it means so much to us.

00:59:10.850 --> 00:59:13.949
I have people all the time
that come up and share stories,

00:59:13.973 --> 00:59:16.032
and I will not get
tired of them.

00:59:16.056 --> 00:59:19.475
-(birds chirping)
-(car starts)

00:59:19.499 --> 00:59:22.142
(car drives away)

00:59:24.984 --> 00:59:27.603
-(rattling)
-(laughs)

00:59:27.627 --> 00:59:31.231
(store chatter)

00:59:34.674 --> 00:59:35.251
I love this.

00:59:35.275 --> 00:59:38.814
Florist: Okay.
Then, I'll take it out? Okay.

00:59:38.838 --> 00:59:40.056
And then there's some water
in the bottom,

00:59:40.080 --> 00:59:44.564
-so just keep it upright.
Okay! Thanks!
-Customer: Awesome.

00:59:45.125 --> 00:59:48.984
Ronna:
Cecil was here
pretty much every day.

00:59:49.009 --> 00:59:51.347
He would open up
the front door and say,

00:59:51.371 --> 00:59:53.109
"Good afternoon,
beautiful ladies."

00:59:53.133 --> 00:59:56.712
Katy:
He'd always stick his head
against the window first though.

00:59:56.736 --> 00:59:58.474
You knew he was coming in
'cause he was coming

00:59:58.498 --> 01:00:00.476
-and looking in the glass,
and I would go, "Mom!

01:00:00.500 --> 01:00:03.839
-Cecil's coming here!"
And then he'd open the door.
-Katy: Yeah.

01:00:03.863 --> 01:00:06.842
And then he would say,
"What are you doing? Trouble?"

01:00:06.866 --> 01:00:08.924
-(laughter)
-He would do that.

01:00:08.948 --> 01:00:10.286
So did Cecil have
an account here?

01:00:10.310 --> 01:00:12.488
-Yeah. Yeah, he did.
-That never got filled?

01:00:12.512 --> 01:00:16.012
It's okay. It doesn't matter.
We used to call him the owner.

01:00:16.036 --> 01:00:17.013
We used to say,
Cecil the owner.

01:00:17.037 --> 01:00:20.136
David, too, would come in here.
Not near as much as Cecil

01:00:20.160 --> 01:00:21.937
because he was always
at the fire station

01:00:21.961 --> 01:00:23.219
-because that's what he loved.
-Yeah.

01:00:23.243 --> 01:00:27.023
Michele:
It's nice to know
that I was obviously

01:00:27.047 --> 01:00:29.185
so protective of Cecil and David

01:00:29.209 --> 01:00:31.627
because they had special needs,

01:00:31.651 --> 01:00:34.550
but they had a whole
other family out there

01:00:34.574 --> 01:00:38.954
-that took care of them
that none of us realized.
-Katy: Yeah.

01:00:38.978 --> 01:00:42.318
Ronna:
I loved him.
It's really weird...

01:00:42.342 --> 01:00:43.319
-that he's not here. Yeah.
-Sorry.

01:00:43.343 --> 01:00:47.843
-I try not to get...
-Michele: No, you should cry.
It's good to cry.

01:00:47.867 --> 01:00:52.448
Yeah. It just feels so much
better to finally, like...

01:00:52.472 --> 01:00:57.333
-(sighs) get it off my chest.
Yeah, a little bit, too. Yeah.
-Ronna: Exhale?

01:00:57.357 --> 01:00:59.735
This actually is
what gets us through.

01:00:59.759 --> 01:01:01.817
I mean,
I was just with my parents,

01:01:01.841 --> 01:01:04.500
and it's the beautiful memories

01:01:04.524 --> 01:01:06.182
-that keep us going.
-Katy: Right.

01:01:06.206 --> 01:01:09.145
-Ronna: Definitely.
-Katy: That's why
I think that...

01:01:09.169 --> 01:01:10.586
What do they say in Judaism?

01:01:10.610 --> 01:01:15.351
"May his memory be a blessing,"
because that's what it is.

01:01:15.375 --> 01:01:18.474
(birds chirping)

01:01:18.498 --> 01:01:21.941
♪ ♪

01:01:25.225 --> 01:01:27.347
(stones clicking)

01:01:57.417 --> 01:02:01.061
(chirping continues)

01:02:02.302 --> 01:02:05.745
♪ ♪

01:02:17.917 --> 01:02:20.280
♪ ♪

01:02:25.445 --> 01:02:27.903
These gardens were created

01:02:27.927 --> 01:02:30.106
for my mother, in her memory,

01:02:30.130 --> 01:02:33.309
and my sister-in-law
initiated it.

01:02:33.333 --> 01:02:37.673
And a lot of people
sent rose bushes.

01:02:37.697 --> 01:02:39.635
Neighbors and family.

01:02:39.659 --> 01:02:41.437
And the yellow ones are...

01:02:41.461 --> 01:02:44.920
yellow, light-colored ones,
are peace roses.

01:02:44.944 --> 01:02:47.643
They were sent by cousins.
Aren't the yellow ones

01:02:47.667 --> 01:02:50.086
-peace roses? Yeah.
-Mm-hmm.

01:02:50.110 --> 01:02:52.272
This one is mine.

01:02:52.632 --> 01:02:55.411
This one I made.
I'm not an artist,

01:02:55.435 --> 01:02:57.877
but it's the words.

01:03:02.442 --> 01:03:04.780
 Everybody loved her,
 and if...

01:03:04.804 --> 01:03:06.662
 if love alone
 could have spared her,

01:03:06.686 --> 01:03:09.505
 she would have lived forever.

01:03:09.529 --> 01:03:12.468
♪ ♪

01:03:12.492 --> 01:03:15.431
(wind blowing)

01:03:15.455 --> 01:03:19.059
(leaves rustling)

01:03:20.140 --> 01:03:23.183
(group praying in Hebrew)

01:03:26.026 --> 01:03:29.005
(prayer continues)

01:03:29.029 --> 01:03:30.206
Anthony:
 The Chabad Pittsburgh

01:03:30.230 --> 01:03:33.529
 did something in the days
 following the tragedy,

01:03:33.553 --> 01:03:37.093
 which was to ask people
within the congregation

01:03:37.117 --> 01:03:40.336
 and beyond to do 100 mitzvahs,

01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:43.683
 good deeds, for every victim.

01:03:44.444 --> 01:03:45.701
(quiet chatter, laugh)

01:03:45.725 --> 01:03:49.745
Say hi? Ozzy says he
would've given his dvar Torah
had he known.

01:03:49.769 --> 01:03:52.508
He would've given
an 11-minute dvar Torah.

01:03:52.532 --> 01:03:53.949
Anthony:
 When you think about

01:03:53.973 --> 01:03:58.994
 what can come of this
this sort of situation,

01:03:59.019 --> 01:04:02.078
 you need to think
about the values

01:04:02.102 --> 01:04:05.521
for which the victims stood.

01:04:05.545 --> 01:04:06.562
The lives that they lived.

01:04:06.586 --> 01:04:09.445
So their lives are
about the positive part,

01:04:09.469 --> 01:04:12.848
and how we can change
other people's lives

01:04:12.872 --> 01:04:15.851
in a positive manner
because that, in particular,

01:04:15.875 --> 01:04:20.176
is what our mother
would've wanted as a legacy,

01:04:20.200 --> 01:04:25.485
and what we're going to do
in a positive light about that.

01:04:25.845 --> 01:04:28.664
Each one of you gets one.

01:04:28.688 --> 01:04:30.186
You can have yours.

01:04:30.210 --> 01:04:32.428
Okay? And any one
of the mitzvahs...

01:04:32.452 --> 01:04:35.031
Let's say you commit
to giving refugee help,

01:04:35.055 --> 01:04:37.073
which is supposed to be
the irony in all this,

01:04:37.097 --> 01:04:38.714
because that's why,
that was...

01:04:38.738 --> 01:04:40.556
-Daughter: We did refugee.
-Well, there you go.

01:04:40.580 --> 01:04:45.041
Friend:
And what's this for? Why are
we doing it, Anthony? For who?

01:04:45.065 --> 01:04:47.707
For whose memory?

01:04:48.308 --> 01:04:49.245
Son:
Everyone that died.

01:04:49.269 --> 01:04:53.089
Anthony:
Right, exactly. So, how many
people died that day?

01:04:53.113 --> 01:04:53.889
-Eleven.
-There you go.

01:04:53.913 --> 01:04:56.212
Friend:
And then one of them
was Anthony's mom.

01:04:56.236 --> 01:04:58.654
So, we're doing it
for her, okay?

01:04:58.678 --> 01:05:02.298
We're doing it
in memory of her.

01:05:02.322 --> 01:05:05.805
♪ ♪

01:05:14.574 --> 01:05:18.098
(bird cawing)

01:05:22.982 --> 01:05:26.482
Carol:
 Since the shooting, I feel

01:05:26.506 --> 01:05:30.326
a lot more
connected to Judaism,

01:05:30.350 --> 01:05:33.409
certainly to my shul family.

01:05:33.433 --> 01:05:37.573
And I've gotten very involved,
and, um,

01:05:37.597 --> 01:05:41.017
I think if my brother
is watching at all,

01:05:41.041 --> 01:05:43.459
he'd be happy to see

01:05:43.483 --> 01:05:45.541
that that's what I'm doing.

01:05:45.565 --> 01:05:47.527
♪ ♪

01:05:48.248 --> 01:05:49.785
The shooter,
I don't even like to--

01:05:49.809 --> 01:05:52.828
I don't speak his name.
I never speak his name.

01:05:52.852 --> 01:05:55.791
I don't like to humanize him.

01:05:55.815 --> 01:05:59.195
He took the lives of people,

01:05:59.219 --> 01:06:02.358
and for what?
What did it accomplish?

01:06:02.382 --> 01:06:04.640
It accomplished nothing.

01:06:04.664 --> 01:06:07.923
And whatever chance
he had at a life,

01:06:07.947 --> 01:06:08.764
he just threw it away.

01:06:08.788 --> 01:06:12.888
Because he will never see
the light of day again.

01:06:12.912 --> 01:06:15.691
If they could just keep him
in solitary confinement,

01:06:15.715 --> 01:06:18.854
and he can spend the rest
of his miserable life

01:06:18.878 --> 01:06:23.499
thinking about what he did
and why he is where he is,

01:06:23.523 --> 01:06:25.021
that, to me, is justice

01:06:25.045 --> 01:06:29.465
because I actually think
executing him is too easy,

01:06:29.489 --> 01:06:32.532
and I don't want him
to have it easy.

01:06:38.578 --> 01:06:42.542
Anthony:
I always thought I was
 against the death penalty.

01:06:43.143 --> 01:06:48.524
What sum of money
can give financial reparation?

01:06:48.548 --> 01:06:50.566
There isn't. In fact,

01:06:50.590 --> 01:06:54.410
we would give
all the money in the world

01:06:54.434 --> 01:06:57.437
to have another day. So...

01:06:57.877 --> 01:07:00.096
Not easy to do that. Therefore,

01:07:00.120 --> 01:07:04.100
I am part of,
along with my brother

01:07:04.124 --> 01:07:05.941
and a couple of others
in the group,

01:07:05.965 --> 01:07:10.546
are supporters of the death
penalty in this particular case.

01:07:10.570 --> 01:07:15.255
Will that change anything?
Absolutely not, except...

01:07:15.615 --> 01:07:17.433
to potentially send a message

01:07:17.457 --> 01:07:21.021
to those who believe
that perpetrating crimes

01:07:21.261 --> 01:07:23.919
of this sort, of mass murder

01:07:23.943 --> 01:07:27.203
is a way of achieving something

01:07:27.227 --> 01:07:29.965
that it doesn't achieve.

01:07:29.989 --> 01:07:31.367
♪ ♪

01:07:31.391 --> 01:07:34.890
I hope that one day
I will have the opportunity

01:07:34.914 --> 01:07:37.037
to speak with him.

01:07:38.598 --> 01:07:40.320
Um...

01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:43.923
I would like to ask him
why he did this.

01:07:44.404 --> 01:07:46.222
I would like to have
the opportunity

01:07:46.246 --> 01:07:49.865
to have a glimmer of influence

01:07:49.889 --> 01:07:53.789
that if he is inclined
to indoctrinate other inmates

01:07:53.813 --> 01:07:56.472
to leave the prison
and go out

01:07:56.496 --> 01:08:01.381
and do similar things
that he should not do so.

01:08:04.304 --> 01:08:06.842
I don't believe
in the death penalty.

01:08:06.866 --> 01:08:08.604
I think that we don't
have any right

01:08:08.628 --> 01:08:10.446
to take another person's life.

01:08:10.470 --> 01:08:14.034
(breeze blowing)

01:08:16.236 --> 01:08:19.919
Audrey:
 I don't even view the shooter

01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:22.738
 as a person,

01:08:22.762 --> 01:08:24.140
as a person at all,

01:08:24.164 --> 01:08:26.782
let alone one worthy to forgive.

01:08:26.806 --> 01:08:29.785
I look forward to maybe
getting to that point

01:08:29.809 --> 01:08:33.789
 because one of the things
 that I've learned

01:08:33.813 --> 01:08:36.112
 from all of this is

01:08:36.136 --> 01:08:40.116
how many different religions
there are in the world

01:08:40.140 --> 01:08:43.079
that teach all the same thing.

01:08:43.103 --> 01:08:44.280
Love and peace.

01:08:44.304 --> 01:08:46.122
You have to reach out
to your fellow man.

01:08:46.146 --> 01:08:49.125
You have to be gracious.
You have to be generous.

01:08:49.149 --> 01:08:52.192
You have to share.
You have to...

01:08:53.513 --> 01:08:55.771
cause peace to happen.

01:08:55.795 --> 01:08:58.374
It's an active thing
that we have to do.

01:08:58.398 --> 01:09:00.656
♪ ♪

01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:03.139
(protester screaming
indistinctly)

01:09:03.163 --> 01:09:06.822
 The Torah,
the five books of Moses,

01:09:06.846 --> 01:09:09.665
 is referred to as
The Tree of Life

01:09:09.689 --> 01:09:12.908
because these are the laws
that we've been given.

01:09:12.932 --> 01:09:17.137
This is the code of how to live.

01:09:18.058 --> 01:09:21.797
 If you take the gift
 that we were given

01:09:21.821 --> 01:09:25.721
 of this knowledge
 of how to treat the world,

01:09:25.745 --> 01:09:29.645
treat the others,
treat all of life...

01:09:29.669 --> 01:09:31.207
(indistinct yelling)

01:09:31.231 --> 01:09:35.091
 ...you tend the earth,
 you share your crops, you--

01:09:35.115 --> 01:09:37.533
All of these rules, you know?

01:09:37.557 --> 01:09:39.215
 If your--
if your neighbor's bull

01:09:39.239 --> 01:09:40.856
 falls into your pit
 or whatever,

01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:43.419
 you owe your neighbor.
All these rules,

01:09:43.443 --> 01:09:47.423
 have-- they set forth
 a pattern of life.

01:09:47.447 --> 01:09:50.850
(protesters shouting)

01:09:56.456 --> 01:09:59.939
♪ ♪

01:10:02.222 --> 01:10:05.785
(shofar blowing)

01:10:07.027 --> 01:10:09.445
Reporter:
 WHYY's Peter Crimmins reports

01:10:09.469 --> 01:10:11.247
 that
 the Philadelphia Orchestra

01:10:11.271 --> 01:10:12.768
has had a composer in residence

01:10:12.792 --> 01:10:15.691
 for the last two years
 writing a new piece.

01:10:15.715 --> 01:10:18.214
Peter Crimmins:
 It starts with a shofar.

01:10:18.238 --> 01:10:20.016
(shofar blowing)

01:10:20.040 --> 01:10:22.418
 This is Audrey Glickman,
 the shofar player.

01:10:22.442 --> 01:10:25.341
Audrey:
That's what a shofar does.
 We call people to action.

01:10:25.365 --> 01:10:28.784
 -She's a member of
 the Tree of Life Synagogue.
  -(shofar continues)

01:10:28.808 --> 01:10:32.268
 That was the site of a mass
 shooting last October.

01:10:32.292 --> 01:10:33.749
 And she was asked
to come to Philadelphia

01:10:33.773 --> 01:10:35.831
 and play the shofar
 with the orchestra.

01:10:35.855 --> 01:10:38.994
 The piece is called
"Healing Tones,"

01:10:39.019 --> 01:10:42.038
 a new work
 by Hannibal Lokumbe.

01:10:42.062 --> 01:10:44.240
Hannibal Lokumbe:
 As a human being,

01:10:44.264 --> 01:10:48.164
 I found it unfortunate
 to have to write it.

01:10:48.188 --> 01:10:51.591
(muffled trumpet)

01:10:51.951 --> 01:10:55.931
This once was a service station.
This was the office,

01:10:55.955 --> 01:10:58.454
and when I was 5 years old,

01:10:58.478 --> 01:11:00.576
I came inside the office here

01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:04.524
and asked if I could
use the bathroom.

01:11:04.964 --> 01:11:06.902
And the response was,

01:11:06.926 --> 01:11:09.345
"Niggers can't use
this bathroom."

01:11:09.369 --> 01:11:11.827
That stayed in my heart.

01:11:11.851 --> 01:11:13.509
And I said one day,

01:11:13.533 --> 01:11:16.776
I'm gonna buy this place,

01:11:17.217 --> 01:11:19.675
and the first thing I'm gonna do

01:11:19.699 --> 01:11:22.798
is to tear out the bathroom

01:11:22.822 --> 01:11:25.121
I was denied usage of.

01:11:25.145 --> 01:11:26.602
And this is the door

01:11:26.626 --> 01:11:30.246
to the men's bathroom,
which was right here.

01:11:30.270 --> 01:11:32.408
And so I wrote
"Healing Tones" here.

01:11:32.432 --> 01:11:36.396
I write all of my music
on this piano.

01:11:36.916 --> 01:11:40.176
(playing piano)

01:11:40.200 --> 01:11:42.778
 I pretty much completed
the composition

01:11:42.802 --> 01:11:46.182
when I heard of
the horrible event in Pittsburgh

01:11:46.206 --> 01:11:47.983
at the Tree of Life Synagogue.

01:11:48.008 --> 01:11:49.705
 And I said to the staff,

01:11:49.729 --> 01:11:53.149
"We must make
a commentary on this.

01:11:53.173 --> 01:11:55.991
"If we could, in fact,

01:11:56.016 --> 01:12:00.700
get one of the shofar,
the instrument..."

01:12:00.940 --> 01:12:03.039
So, they called,

01:12:03.063 --> 01:12:04.240
and I was in the office,

01:12:04.264 --> 01:12:08.044
and all of a sudden,
Jeremy broke in, he said,

01:12:08.068 --> 01:12:09.005
"Hannibal! Guess what?

01:12:09.029 --> 01:12:11.567
"The shofar player
is gonna come!

01:12:11.591 --> 01:12:14.154
Has agreed to come and play!"

01:12:16.076 --> 01:12:20.160
(church bell tolls)

01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:22.242
Oh, okay.

01:12:24.284 --> 01:12:26.142
(violin warming up)

01:12:26.166 --> 01:12:31.011
-(instruments warming up)
-(quiet chatter)

01:12:38.138 --> 01:12:39.635
Yeah, always.

01:12:39.659 --> 01:12:41.621
(echoing thud)

01:12:42.022 --> 01:12:45.705
(orchestra warming up)

01:12:49.909 --> 01:12:53.873
(applause)

01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:01.521
(applause fades out)

01:13:02.722 --> 01:13:06.286
(playing shofar)

01:13:13.213 --> 01:13:14.950
(orchestra quietly playing)

01:13:14.974 --> 01:13:18.578
(operatic singing)

01:13:24.784 --> 01:13:28.468
(orchestra playing)

01:13:38.518 --> 01:13:42.082
(choir singing)

01:13:47.407 --> 01:13:51.251
(choir, orchestra continue)

01:13:55.735 --> 01:13:57.913
(fading out)

01:13:57.937 --> 01:14:00.580
(Audience Member 1 speaking)

01:14:02.262 --> 01:14:06.042
-I want to give you a hug.
Thank you.
-Okay.

01:14:06.066 --> 01:14:07.123
Thank you, thank you!

01:14:07.147 --> 01:14:10.086
-It was really great.
-It was tremendous.

01:14:10.110 --> 01:14:13.129
-We could all feel it.
-Yeah, yeah.

01:14:13.153 --> 01:14:15.451
And there was a guy
about three feet away

01:14:15.475 --> 01:14:19.535
sitting on the bench,
and he said, "You were...

01:14:19.559 --> 01:14:21.657
one of them?" And I said yes.

01:14:21.681 --> 01:14:23.619
-Audience Member 2:
It was nice meeting you.

01:14:23.643 --> 01:14:27.383
-Joe Charny: Yes, okay. Yes.
-And you made it much
more memorable, too.

01:14:27.407 --> 01:14:31.267
Well, thank you. Thank you.
I'm glad you liked it.

01:14:31.291 --> 01:14:33.109
Audience Member 2:
Thanks.

01:14:33.133 --> 01:14:35.511
(loud bang, rumbling)

01:14:35.535 --> 01:14:38.218
(cars honking)

01:14:39.139 --> 01:14:41.221
-(Joe speaking)
-Yes.

01:14:42.502 --> 01:14:44.264
(Audrey speaking)

01:14:47.067 --> 01:14:49.989
Joe:Of course
 I'm changed by this.

01:14:51.351 --> 01:14:53.193
 Who wouldn't be?

01:14:53.393 --> 01:14:56.612
 The vision of the man
 with the gun facing me

01:14:56.636 --> 01:15:02.082
 is not as prominent as
 it was the first week or two.

01:15:03.203 --> 01:15:06.062
 But, every once in a while,

01:15:06.086 --> 01:15:08.128
 he shows up.

01:15:10.450 --> 01:15:13.333
I'll read you something.

01:15:13.853 --> 01:15:18.938
This is from one of
my favorite guys.

01:15:21.701 --> 01:15:23.359
 "To love God truly,

01:15:23.383 --> 01:15:27.227
 "one must first love
 all humanity.

01:15:27.947 --> 01:15:30.926
 "If anyone tells you
 that they love God

01:15:30.950 --> 01:15:32.648
 "and do not love others,

01:15:32.672 --> 01:15:35.795
 "you will know
 that they are lying.

01:15:36.916 --> 01:15:41.441
 "What you must do is love
 your neighbor as yourself.

01:15:42.562 --> 01:15:47.903
"There is no one who knows yourmany faults better than you do,

01:15:47.927 --> 01:15:51.067
 "but you love yourself anyway.

01:15:51.091 --> 01:15:52.948
♪ ♪

01:15:52.972 --> 01:15:55.631
 "So must you love
your neighbors,

01:15:55.655 --> 01:15:59.299
 no matter how many faults
 you see in them."

01:16:02.222 --> 01:16:05.665
♪ ♪

01:17:04.604 --> 01:17:08.488
♪ ♪

01:17:27.547 --> 01:17:30.990
♪ ♪

01:17:56.976 --> 01:18:01.477
 ♪ Hold my hand,
I won't let go ♪

01:18:01.501 --> 01:18:06.042
 ♪ This sacred house
 now echoes ♪

01:18:06.066 --> 01:18:09.869
 ♪ But it's still our home ♪

01:18:11.551 --> 01:18:16.652
 ♪ The light and dark,
 the glass and slate ♪

01:18:16.676 --> 01:18:21.121
 ♪ With every sun that rises ♪

01:18:21.481 --> 01:18:24.804
 ♪ The shadows fade ♪

01:18:27.287 --> 01:18:31.787
 ♪ Search deep inside
 you'll find ♪

01:18:31.811 --> 01:18:34.910
 ♪ That hope remains ♪

01:18:34.934 --> 01:18:39.235
 ♪ There's peace
 that lies beyond ♪

01:18:39.259 --> 01:18:41.941
 ♪ The pain ♪

01:18:43.063 --> 01:18:45.561
 ♪ Place a stone ♪

01:18:45.585 --> 01:18:48.204
 ♪ Beside their names ♪

01:18:48.228 --> 01:18:50.966
 ♪ No soul forgotten ♪

01:18:50.990 --> 01:18:53.249
 ♪ The tears we cry ♪

01:18:53.273 --> 01:18:56.212
 ♪ All sting the same ♪

01:18:56.236 --> 01:18:58.734
 ♪ We all are human ♪

01:18:58.758 --> 01:19:03.259
 ♪ No matter your prayer ♪

01:19:03.283 --> 01:19:06.302
 ♪ There's light
 for us to share ♪

01:19:06.326 --> 01:19:11.027
 ♪ I'll hold you tight ♪

01:19:11.051 --> 01:19:15.815
 ♪ Beneath a tree of life ♪

01:19:17.897 --> 01:19:19.675
 ♪ Rest your head ♪

01:19:19.699 --> 01:19:22.038
 ♪ Upon my shoulder ♪

01:19:22.062 --> 01:19:26.482
 ♪ The leaves,
 they give us shelter ♪

01:19:26.506 --> 01:19:30.510
 ♪ We grow strong together ♪

01:19:32.272 --> 01:19:37.253
 ♪ The earth might shake,
 the winds may blow ♪

01:19:37.277 --> 01:19:39.655
 ♪ But these deep roots will ♪

01:19:39.679 --> 01:19:42.058
 ♪ Keep us standing tall ♪

01:19:42.082 --> 01:19:46.206
 ♪ So just hold on ♪

01:19:48.208 --> 01:19:52.508
 ♪ We'll walk back
 through those doors ♪

01:19:52.532 --> 01:19:55.615
 ♪ And we'll begin ♪

01:19:55.975 --> 01:19:59.715
 ♪ To fill our home with joy ♪

01:19:59.739 --> 01:20:01.717
 ♪ Again ♪

01:20:01.741 --> 01:20:04.640
 ♪ So raise a candle ♪

01:20:04.664 --> 01:20:07.163
 ♪ In their names ♪

01:20:07.187 --> 01:20:09.525
 ♪ 'Cause we're not broken ♪

01:20:09.549 --> 01:20:14.754
 ♪ Heavy hearts
 all beat the same ♪

01:20:15.035 --> 01:20:17.373
 ♪ We all are human ♪

01:20:17.397 --> 01:20:22.178
 ♪ No matter your prayer ♪

01:20:22.202 --> 01:20:25.101
 ♪ There's light
 for us to share ♪

01:20:25.125 --> 01:20:29.785
 ♪ I'll hold you tight ♪

01:20:29.809 --> 01:20:35.831
 ♪ Beneath a tree of life... ♪

01:20:35.855 --> 01:20:39.715
 ♪ Whoa... ♪

01:20:39.739 --> 01:20:43.383
 ♪ Whoa... ♪

01:20:43.583 --> 01:20:47.123
 ♪ Whoa... ♪

01:20:47.147 --> 01:20:50.670
(holds note)

01:21:03.443 --> 01:21:05.565
(song fades out)