Baseball Behind Barbed Wire
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BASEBALL BEHIND BARBED WIRE rhythmically paints the story of Japanese American incarceration during World War II through the lens of baseball, America's beloved pastime, with interviews and art by former incarcerees, animation, and archival film and photos. Despite being stripped of civil rights and confined from 1942-45, Japanese Americans embraced baseball to assert their citizenship and loyalty amid guard towers and barbed wire. BASEBALL BEHIND BARBED WIRE centers on Arizona's Gila River Camp, vividly portraying key players Howard Zenimura and Tets Furukawa. Coach Kenichi Zenimura, known for playing with Babe Ruth, collaborated with Howard to build a diamond from stolen materials. This national pastime flourished in all ten camps, spanning California to Arkansas. Some camps had multiple fields and even thirty teams. In 1945, though liberated, Japanese Americans faced an uncertain "home." They rebuilt lives, embodying the Japanese spirit of "gaman" (endurance) and "gambaru" (to persevere). Throughout this arduous history, baseball remained an unwavering thread of resilience.
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Main credits
Romer, Yuriko Gamo (film director)
Romer, Yuriko Gamo (film producer)
Smolowitz, Marc (film producer)
Thompson, Shirley (screenwriter)
Other credits
Editor, Shirley Thompson; director of cinematography, Andrew Black; music, Derek Nakamoto.
Distributor subjects
Japanese American Endurance & Perseverance; Baseball; Internment Camps; World War II; Animation; ArchivalKeywords
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(fish swimming and water splashing)
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(music starts)
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(bat hitting ball)
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(people cheering)
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(typewriter sounds)
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(stamp)
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(barbed wire clanking sound)
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We weren’t supposed to actually
go beyond that barbed wire fence,
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but my dad says,
“I'm going to build a ballpark there.”
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(train horn and wheels running)
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A very difficult time
for Japanese Americans.
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They had to spend four years incarcerated
in these camps in a concentration camp
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with guard towers, barbed wire,
and machine guns pointed inward.
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(clanking sound)
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They'd see these brown windstorms
coming towards them.
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The dust storms were so intense.
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(wind blowing and windchimes)
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When Pearl Harbor happened,
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the FBI came and took my father away.
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I remember we had a barbed wire fence over
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six feet tall.
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(wind blowing)
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The trauma,
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the humiliation that most went through,
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the denying of your constitutional rights,
your civil liberties.
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(film rolling)
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Baseball was a way that Japanese Americans
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could find some kind of normalcy.
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(film rolling)
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It's just astounding that they kept
the all-American pastime alive,
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even from behind barbed wire.
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(theme song playing)
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(blanketing sound effect)
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(exciting music playing)
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When you go back into our history,
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you see how passionate and how long
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Japanese Americans,
as well as Japanese nationals,
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have endured and loved the game.
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We have very proudly four
and possibly five generations of baseball
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in our family.
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My grandfather, Hisataro, had two sons,
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and my uncle Johnny became
like the Nisei Babe Ruth
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or the Shohei Ohtani
in the twenties and thirties.
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Baseball was introduced to Japan in 1872
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by a school teacher named Horace Wilson.
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So he went to a university there to teach
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and he brought a baseball bat
and a ball with him.
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To have nine players
playing with one mind.
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It took off like wildfire
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In Japan,
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the Japanese feel that it's their pastime
as strongly as we feel it's ours.
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The Issei were fanatical, passionate
about baseball.
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That passion that the Issei developed
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as kids in Japan
carried over once they came to America.
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It was a farming community,
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Guadalupe, California.
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There was a lot of Japanese
that lived over there.
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Baseball was played every Sunday.
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Father would pack up the kids
and we all end up
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at the baseball diamond.
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(people chatting)
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(people cheering)
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(players sliding on the ground)
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It was universal
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It didn't matter what your skin color was,
your faith, what country you came from.
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I think all the immigrants wanted to prove
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that they were the best in the sport.
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Putting on a baseball uniform was like
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putting on the American flag.
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(exciting music continues)
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They couldn't play in Major League
Baseball because of the Jim Crow laws.
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But the Latinos had their leagues.
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The all-American Girls, the Negro Leagues,
what we called the Nisei Leagues,
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they were able to play each other.
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(exciting music ending)
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(bomb exploding)
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(tense music playing)
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However,
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the war breaks out
and everything falls apart.
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(waves crashing)
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We lived in a little community called Betteravia.
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After Pearl Harbor,
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the kids would be playing in the front yard and
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every morning we would see these army trucks
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with truckloads of soldiers
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sitting on the back of the truck,
and they were going westward.
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We lived in an old schoolhouse.
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My father was a farmer.
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He was one of the first to get picked up by the FBI, too.
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They accused my dad of sending the Morse code.
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Back those days, we use the outhouse,
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and so seven people living in the house,
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you could just about imagine
how many times we went in and went out.
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And that's every time that we did that
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we flicked the light on,
we flicked the light off
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so that kept on night after night.
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And we didn't know that
the FBI was watching.
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When Pearl Harbor happened,
the FBI came and took my father away
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and accused him of sending messages
to the Japanese submarine.
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(tense music continues)
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(wind blowing)
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(film rolling)
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(soldiers marching)
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We were ordered to take
whatever you can carry,
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and usually it was two suitcases
and these two containers
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I took all my worldly belongings.
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(tense music continues)
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(bus driving away)
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(tense music)
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(typewriter)
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Here in Fresno,
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the line of demarcation
was the 99 highway.
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So west of the highway
they would go to Arkansas.
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East of the highway, they go to Arizona.
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Our family had to go to Arkansas
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incarcerated for almost four years.
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There were 14 barracks to a block,
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and I think there were about 250 people
living in that one block.
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I still remember my address.
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Block 28 13C
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(slow instrumental of “Take Me Out To The Ballgame”)
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When the war broke out,
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I think the beginning of the 1942 season,
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Commissioner Landis had written a letter
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to the president saying that they were
considering canceling the season.
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FDR wrote back and said,
no, baseball needs to continue.
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People will be working harder.
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They need some sort of enjoyment
or relief or outlet, if you will.
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And so that's the role that baseball
played for the greater community.
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And intuitively, when the incarceration occurred,
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that's one of the first things that
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the Japanese American community
turned to as well.
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There was somebody in each location
of the ten incarceration camps,
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building fields and establishing leagues.
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All the camps had baseball fields.
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I like to use example of Gila River
as one of the A baseball team camps.
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Manzanar had the San Fernando Aces,
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which was a juggernaut of
pre-war championship baseball.
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There was Jerome, Arkansas, where they had
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tremendous ballplayers at a semi-pro level.
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(instrumental of “Take Me Out To The Ballgame”)
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(Tets reciting haiku with typewriter sounds)
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(instrumental of “Take Me Out To The Ballgame”)
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Kenichi Zenimura who was like
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the father of Japanese American baseball
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in California and
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they used to call him
the dean of the diamond.
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Early 1920, he built the pre-war
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Japanese ballpark here in Fresno.
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(nostalgic music playing)
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Kenichi Zenimura was born in 1900
in Hiroshima, Japan.
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He moved to Hawaii around age seven.
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Baseball in Hawaii in the early
1900s was a really
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multicultural hotbed
of great baseball activity.
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He went to the mainland in 1920
to go play baseball.
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(instrumental of “Take Me Out To The Ballgame”)
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October 29th, 1927,
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Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig
were barnstorming through California,
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and they had scheduled a game at
Fresno's Fireman's ballpark.
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They asked the local community
to gather all of your top players
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to play with Babe and Lou,
and they split into two teams.
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Zenimura was picked
along with three of his teammates
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and they played with the Larrupin' Lous
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and they ended up defeating Babe Ruth’s team.
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(instrumental of “Take Me Out To The Ballgame”)
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I talked with Howard Zenimura
and he was telling me
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that on Sunday morning, December 7th,
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he and his brothers were in a gymnasium
playing basketball,
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and they went into the game,
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everything was great.
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And when they came out of the game,
everybody was quiet.
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People were, you know, there were murmurs
of maybe something was going on.
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And of course, Pearl Harbor had happened
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while they were playing the basketball game.
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Life really turned upside down
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for the Zenimura family
and really everyone in that situation.
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He had owned 50% ownership of a
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Studebaker dealership in Fresno,
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and Zeni had to sell his share of the business.
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They lost their home.
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They had to sell all of their belongings.
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They can only take what they could carry.
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Of course, he brought his baseball gear.
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When the war broke out.
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I thought he would be one of the first one
that would be picked up.
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He's not an American citizen.
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Fortunately,
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he wasn't one of those people that
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the FBI were looking for.
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In fact, we were so scared that
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anything that was Japanese,
you know, we kind of got rid of it.
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(fire burning then film rolling)
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120,000 Americans of Japanese ancestry
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were basically rounded up,
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put into a county fairgrounds for six months
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while they built the permanent camps
throughout United States.
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When we left our hometown
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and we went to the
Tulare Fairgrounds Assembly Center,
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this is what we were confronted with:
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These are old stable.
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They housed horses for many years.
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But when they found out
the Japanese were coming here,
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they chased the horses out.
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They shoved the Japanese
into these horse stable.
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(tense music continues)
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So you just think about it
right now and you think,
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Geez,
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this is just a stench of inhumanity.
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(tense music continues)
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During World War II,
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Kenichi Zenimura built
his second ballpark
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at the Fresno Fairgrounds.
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Recruits tractors and players
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to level out the ground
at the assembly center.
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(film rolling)
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(people chatting)
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Then they boarded their trains
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to go to the desert wastelands.
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(wind blowing)
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My mom told me the story that
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once, they got on the train
to take a train ride to Jerome, Arkansas,
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there were blinders on the train
so you couldn't see in or out.
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But she lifted it
just a skosh to see the racists
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and the bigots with their signs that said,
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Get out of Fresno!
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Never come back to California!
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And so my mom being very concerned,
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she asked my baachan, you know,
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“What's going to happen to us in these camps?”
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“Is it going to be like in Germany and
with the Jewish culture has to go through?”
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She goes,
“oh, no, no.”
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She goes,
“this is the greatest country in the world.”
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“All immigrants have to pay a price.”
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“We will go and prove
how loyal we are and come back.”
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(sad music continues)
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(wind blowing)
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Being incarcerated was traumatic.
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It was humiliating.
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Camp life was hard,
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but people tried to create a community.
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(kids shouting)
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(sad music continues)
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(people chatting)
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People went to work
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and they did all the jobs required
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to keep the camp running,
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for which they were given very modest pay.
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I remember my dad was the town plumber.
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I think he said he was
only making about $12 a month
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(people walking)
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(music builds)
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This is actually
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one of the blocks of Gila Camp.
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They had 13 barracks, one mess hall,
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(plates clanking)
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one laundry room.
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There was no washing machine.
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You have to wash everything by hand.
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(water spraying)
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There was no privacy.
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It was just like a gang shower, you know,
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the one that you see in service.
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I got I learned a new word,
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‘latrine,’ at that time.
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And the toilet?
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Well, the latrine was wide open.
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There was no partition.
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(sad music continues)
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Zenimura went to Gila River
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and really made a positive impact
on the community where he lived.
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(wind blowing)
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But it wasn't positive at first.
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He's human.
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And when he got here, he was depressed.
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I heard that he didn't unpack
for a couple of weeks.
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One night he was looking off
into the distance beyond the barbed wire,
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and he kind of envisioned
a field out there.
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And he told his wife, Kiyoko,
that he was going to build
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another baseball field.
00:16:02.962 --> 00:16:04.129
(bat hitting ball)
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(people cheering)
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(melancholic music)
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(Tets reciting haiku with typewriter sounds)
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Kenichi Zenimura built
his third field of dreams
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on the middle of a Pima Indian reservation
00:16:31.890 --> 00:16:34.660
with a grass infield, grass outfield,
00:16:35.060 --> 00:16:38.230
castor bean homerun fence
from left to right field.
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They would chalk the foul lines with flour.
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It was, ironically,
on the outside of the barbed wire.
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Well, where were we going to run to?
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There was two or 300 miles of desert
in every direction.
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We had about ten of our young guys
that were interested in baseball
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start digging what they call
sagebrush on the desert.
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He found a farmer who had a tractor
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and they were able to scrape the field
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and make it flat.
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And then from there it was just
piecemealing it together.
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We went to the lumber yard and
and stole some lumber, two by four.
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He took a 300 foot water line
from the laundry room
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to the pitcher's mound
so that they could water the infield.
00:17:26.345 --> 00:17:29.314
He recruited the camp fire department
00:17:29.314 --> 00:17:32.551
to test out their water hoses
to make sure the outfield
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was nice and green.
00:17:33.986 --> 00:17:37.289
The castor bean homerun fence
looked like it was Wrigley Field.
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(exciting instrumental of “Take Me Out To The Ballgame”)
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They had 32 teams
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and three divisions
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just at Gila River, Arizona.
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Camp director Bennett
was very supportive
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of baseball at Gila River.
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He even threw out the first pitch
for the opening game.
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I think it was mainly the camp directors.
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How they felt about the game
and how it could promote a positivity
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and goodwill towards the internees
or the so-called enemy aliens.
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As you went into the game,
you would drop in your coins or whatever
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you could afford to support the teams.
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The mothers and the women
would take mattress ticking
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to make uniforms.
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Tets Furukawa’s mom would make sliding pads.
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I'm sure that most of all,
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the parents,
they were worried about the kids,
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hoping that they don't join gangs.
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I think that we owe a lot to
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Howard Zenimura's father.
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He encouraged all the youngsters
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to come and practice baseball,
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play baseball, and gave everyone hope,
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joy, and normalcy to their lives.
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(nostalgic music continues)
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(typewriter sound)
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Zenimura used the game of baseball
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to break down barriers
throughout his entire life.
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From 1923, when the anti-Japanese
sentiment was really high in California.
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There were signs that would say,
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No Japanese allowed
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and he would go into that town and
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try to schedule games and they would play.
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And eventually, over time,
the signs would disappear.
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Arizona was very strong
with baseball talent.
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The top semi-pro team was called
00:19:42.047 --> 00:19:44.883
the Phoenix Compress Team
and they were a Negro League team.
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They worked at
what's called the compress factory,
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which is where they process the cotton,
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and he invited them to come and play.
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But when you think about the
broader picture of what was happening
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at that point in time,
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you have this African American team
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going into an Indian reservation
00:20:01.967 --> 00:20:04.002
to play Japanese Americans incarcerated
00:20:04.002 --> 00:20:05.270
behind barbed wire.
00:20:05.270 --> 00:20:13.679
(nostalgic music ending)
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(melancholic music starting)
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My grandmother died at the
Jerome, Arkansas camp.
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In our culture, the Buddhist culture,
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we cremate our elders that went before us,
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and they didn’t have a crematory
at the Jerome, Arkansas camp.
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So they sent her body
to Hattiesburg, Mississippi.
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And a few months later,
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my mother gets a Folgers coffee can
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indicating this was her mother's ashes.
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So she opened up the lid
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and on top of my grandmother's ashes
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was a piece of paper
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that my mom thought it was her name.
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So she opened up the paper
00:20:51.617 --> 00:20:54.052
and all it said on it was,
“Jap woman.”
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And so the the inhumanities
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didn't even really stop with her death.
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(tense music)
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(wind blowing)
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Around July of 1943,
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Japanese Americans in the camps
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were forced to answer the loyalty questionnaire.
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Basically asked their allegiance to America.
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And if they were loyal to the country,
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would they be willing to fight for our country?
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where some people wrote: Yes-Yes.
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Others wrote: No-No.
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You're denouncing your Japanese citizenship.
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For many Issei,
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that was their only citizenship.
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They weren't allowed
to become U.S. citizens.
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So that's why some of them would say no.
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They call them the no-no boys.
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And they were sent to
Tule Lake in California
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and Tule Lake was
a higher maximum security camp.
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(melancholic music continues)
00:22:05.357 --> 00:22:08.060
So that questionnaire
really broke up families.
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It broke up friendships.
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What Zenimura did,
00:22:11.096 --> 00:22:13.765
it was really interesting
during this time,
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he turned to baseball again
00:22:15.801 --> 00:22:18.837
and before the camps and
the families were split up,
00:22:18.837 --> 00:22:20.605
he held a three game series,
00:22:20.605 --> 00:22:22.507
The Yes-Yeses versus the No-Nos.
00:22:23.108 --> 00:22:25.410
The first game, the Yes-Yeses won.
00:22:25.410 --> 00:22:27.379
The second one,
the No-Nos won.
00:22:27.713 --> 00:22:29.581
And so it comes down to this third game.
00:22:29.581 --> 00:22:32.184
And right before they played,
they canceled it.
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They decided that it was probably
the best thing for it to just remain tied 1 to 1.
00:22:38.023 --> 00:22:39.958
Zeni, he ended up saying yes.
00:22:39.958 --> 00:22:42.260
So at this point,
he denounced his Japanese citizenship.
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So from 1943 to 1952,
Zenimura is a man really with no country.
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(wind blowing)
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By 1944,
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some of the camp teams
were allowed to travel
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to other camps to compete.
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Gila had three different teams
come into Gila to play.
00:23:03.915 --> 00:23:05.650
Heart Mountain came.
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There was another camp
called Amache and Poston.
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And I know that my dad tried
00:23:12.157 --> 00:23:16.094
to raise money for
these teams to come to Gila.
00:23:16.595 --> 00:23:17.996
It's amazing what he did
00:23:17.996 --> 00:23:19.998
to try and see if we can raise this money.
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If you look at the grandstand,
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it was section A, B, C,
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and those people that donated money
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he would give them the best seat.
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And then in 1944,
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Zenimura was able to take
his All-Star team up to Heart Mountain.
00:23:38.817 --> 00:23:41.086
When I was 17 years old,
00:23:41.086 --> 00:23:45.223
when the Gila team visited
Heart Mountain, Wyoming,
00:23:45.557 --> 00:23:50.228
which is another relocation camp
that was about 1,500 miles,
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we rode a rickety
Santa Fe Trailways bus,
00:23:55.801 --> 00:23:58.103
and it probably took us
two days to get there.
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Some of the seats were worn out
00:24:00.872 --> 00:24:03.175
and you couldn't sleep
because the springs are
00:24:03.575 --> 00:24:04.676
pushing you up.
00:24:05.844 --> 00:24:09.047
We were accosted by Caucasians.
00:24:09.181 --> 00:24:12.884
They looked at us
and they knew that we were Japanese.
00:24:12.884 --> 00:24:16.421
And they said,
“What are you guys doing over here?”
00:24:17.823 --> 00:24:20.692
“We just left the internment camp in Arizona.”
00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:23.895
“But because of the war effort”
00:24:23.895 --> 00:24:25.564
“and there’s a lack of labor,”
00:24:26.031 --> 00:24:27.933
“we're going to Montana”
00:24:28.266 --> 00:24:31.436
“and Wyoming to help with the potato”
00:24:31.436 --> 00:24:33.104
“and the sugar beet harvest.”
00:24:34.206 --> 00:24:36.241
And he said,
“Well, yeah, that sounds good.”
00:24:36.241 --> 00:24:37.642
So they let us go.
00:24:37.642 --> 00:24:38.910
(audience laughing)
00:24:38.910 --> 00:24:39.411
(bat hitting ball)
00:24:39.411 --> 00:24:40.779
(people cheering)
00:24:40.779 --> 00:24:43.748
(inspiring rendition of “Take Me Out To The Ballgame”)
00:24:50.222 --> 00:24:51.790
To be able to take
00:24:51.790 --> 00:24:54.926
a road trip from Gila River, Arizona,
00:24:55.393 --> 00:24:57.596
all the way to Heart Mountain, Wyoming,
00:24:57.596 --> 00:24:59.564
or to Amache, Colorado.
00:24:59.965 --> 00:25:04.035
These so-called enemy aliens
had this amnesty in a way,
00:25:04.402 --> 00:25:06.838
you could take a bus,
get on a train,
00:25:06.838 --> 00:25:10.475
and travel thousands of miles away
for a tournament.
00:25:10.475 --> 00:25:13.445
(low-key music continues)
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Towards the end of the war,
00:25:15.247 --> 00:25:17.449
Zeni coached the high school baseball team.
00:25:18.149 --> 00:25:20.986
He arranged a match
between the Gila River Eagles
00:25:21.186 --> 00:25:25.056
with the two-time state champions,
the Tucson Badgers.
00:25:26.725 --> 00:25:28.693
Hanley Slagle was their coach,
00:25:28.693 --> 00:25:31.129
who was an ex-San Francisco Seal.
00:25:31.129 --> 00:25:32.831
Hanley Slagle said,
00:25:32.831 --> 00:25:35.367
“We'll come into your camp, play one game.”
00:25:35.700 --> 00:25:39.971
“After that game, you come over to Tucson High
and we'll have the return match.”
00:25:40.572 --> 00:25:42.073
Kenichi said,
“Absolutely.”
00:25:42.073 --> 00:25:45.243
They start the game
and it's like a boxing match,
00:25:45.243 --> 00:25:48.146
you know, each round slugging it out
00:25:48.146 --> 00:25:49.848
and they go the full game
00:25:50.382 --> 00:25:55.086
and it ends up being tied at nine innings, 10 all.
00:25:55.086 --> 00:25:57.222
Eagles, bases loaded,
00:25:57.856 --> 00:26:00.058
Harvey Zenimura comes up to the plate,
00:26:00.058 --> 00:26:02.494
takes three straight balls,
00:26:03.094 --> 00:26:04.563
two straight strikes.
00:26:05.130 --> 00:26:09.367
And on the sixth pitch,
he rips it for the walk off win.
00:26:09.734 --> 00:26:11.870
And there are thousands of people
watching this game.
00:26:11.903 --> 00:26:13.772
They all ran onto the field.
00:26:13.772 --> 00:26:16.875
It was pandemonium,
as Tets Furukawa would say.
00:26:17.542 --> 00:26:20.779
I pitched the whole 10 innings
and people ask me,
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.381
“How many pitchers did you throw?”
00:26:23.815 --> 00:26:25.951
And I said, “I can't remember.”
00:26:26.451 --> 00:26:30.155
I kind of thought
that maybe I threw 155 pitches
00:26:30.155 --> 00:26:32.791
because they were
hitting my balls all over the field.
00:26:32.791 --> 00:26:34.092
(bat hitting balls)
00:26:34.092 --> 00:26:36.661
They come to an agreement
that they're going to have a rematch.
00:26:36.828 --> 00:26:38.697
But this time down in Tucson,
00:26:38.697 --> 00:26:41.466
word started to spread
in the Tucson community
00:26:41.466 --> 00:26:43.535
that the Japanese American players
were coming.
00:26:44.135 --> 00:26:47.138
The Tucson community
didn't want
00:26:47.138 --> 00:26:49.774
these so-called enemy alien kids
00:26:49.774 --> 00:26:51.776
to play in their community.
00:26:52.344 --> 00:26:55.614
So that was kind of a hurtful thing for
00:26:55.614 --> 00:26:57.248
Kenichi and the Eagles,
00:26:57.248 --> 00:26:58.984
because they wanted the return match.
00:26:58.984 --> 00:27:01.953
(low-key music builds up)
00:27:11.296 --> 00:27:13.231
In 1945,
00:27:13.231 --> 00:27:15.100
Zenimura Field closes
00:27:15.100 --> 00:27:17.636
along with the rest of the Gila River Camps
00:27:18.203 --> 00:27:22.007
and the Zenimuras
eventually return back to Fresno.
00:27:22.007 --> 00:27:23.975
(depressing music)
00:27:23.975 --> 00:27:26.578
The difficulties of resettlement
was harsh.
00:27:27.245 --> 00:27:29.280
Most lost their homes and businesses.
00:27:30.181 --> 00:27:34.352
I remember my mom getting off
at the train station in Sacramento
00:27:34.352 --> 00:27:38.223
and a lady telling her,
“How dare you come back to California?”
00:27:39.124 --> 00:27:41.459
My dad, in the little small town,
00:27:41.459 --> 00:27:45.296
couldn't even buy gas
at the local station for a while.
00:27:46.097 --> 00:27:48.633
Most of the Nisei
went back to their high schools
00:27:48.633 --> 00:27:50.135
and they played baseball.
00:27:50.702 --> 00:27:54.873
Resettlement also meant
that they could get their tournaments
00:27:54.873 --> 00:27:57.042
and their road trips and
00:27:57.042 --> 00:27:59.911
community to community games started again.
00:28:00.512 --> 00:28:02.313
And then in 1952,
00:28:02.313 --> 00:28:05.016
Issei,
or first generation Japanese Americans,
00:28:05.016 --> 00:28:06.718
could apply for U.S. citizenship
00:28:07.585 --> 00:28:10.922
Kenichi was very excited
about becoming a U.S. citizen
00:28:10.922 --> 00:28:12.290
He studied really hard.
00:28:12.290 --> 00:28:15.193
He passed and
he was a proud Japanese American.
00:28:16.728 --> 00:28:19.297
Kenichi referred his boys
00:28:19.297 --> 00:28:20.932
to the Hiroshima Carp,
00:28:20.932 --> 00:28:23.368
and they played professional ball.
00:28:23.368 --> 00:28:24.936
Howard only one season,
00:28:24.936 --> 00:28:28.773
Harvey played four
and was a two-time All-Star.
00:28:28.773 --> 00:28:36.114
(people cheering and cars honking)
00:28:36.114 --> 00:28:39.084
(inspirational music starts)
00:28:48.393 --> 00:28:51.362
(Tets reciting haiku and typewriter sounds)
00:28:59.604 --> 00:29:00.205
(bat hitting ball)
00:29:00.205 --> 00:29:02.307
(people cheering)
00:29:02.307 --> 00:29:05.744
Baseball kept us alive
as far as I was concerned.
00:29:06.177 --> 00:29:09.414
Otherwise, I would have been probably
a juvenile delinquent over there
00:29:09.414 --> 00:29:10.682
(Tets laughing)
00:29:10.682 --> 00:29:12.817
because we were only, you know,
00:29:13.184 --> 00:29:15.453
15, 16, 17 years old.
00:29:15.453 --> 00:29:17.222
(bat hitting ball and people clapping)
00:29:17.222 --> 00:29:19.224
We need to show
00:29:19.224 --> 00:29:23.394
the positive aspects of our history
and the negative.
00:29:23.394 --> 00:29:27.365
And I think when we talk about
incarceration during World War II,
00:29:27.365 --> 00:29:29.968
it's such a negative subject matter because
00:29:29.968 --> 00:29:34.239
America imprisoned their own Americans
only because of their race.
00:29:34.239 --> 00:29:38.977
And we can't learn from history
or we can’t heal unless we acknowledge
00:29:39.010 --> 00:29:40.478
the mistakes that we've made.
00:29:40.478 --> 00:29:42.380
(low key music)
00:29:42.380 --> 00:29:45.350
It's amazing what
the family went through,
00:29:45.350 --> 00:29:47.185
but myself,
00:29:47.185 --> 00:29:51.022
I think that we have to have
forgiveness in our heart.
00:29:51.322 --> 00:29:52.590
I know when I was young,
00:29:52.590 --> 00:29:54.859
Of course, I didn't like what the United States
00:29:54.859 --> 00:29:57.495
did to us in our own country, etc.
00:29:58.696 --> 00:30:00.865
But I don't have that much time left.
00:30:00.865 --> 00:30:04.102
And I think that this word forgiveness
00:30:04.102 --> 00:30:07.305
means a lot to us as we grow old.
00:30:07.472 --> 00:30:11.075
And if we don't have any forgiveness
in our hearts,
00:30:11.643 --> 00:30:13.878
we won't have a peaceful end
00:30:13.878 --> 00:30:15.313
when we leave this Earth.
00:30:16.014 --> 00:30:17.615
(low key music ends)
00:30:28.059 --> 00:30:30.195
(upbeat music starts)