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(uptempo instrumental music)

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- Are you ready?

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(woman harmonizing)

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- Ready?

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- Yeah.

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(singing in foreign language)

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- In this chapter of my life,

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I am a movement educator,
movement therapist,

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movement ritualist.

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My degrees are in
performance and choreography,

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Master's Degree in
Performance and Choreography,

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and then I have a PhD in
Movement Education and Healing.

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So that is a seriously powerful unifying,

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part of that that we call a person.

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Upper arm comes in, you lengthen the arm

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till it's right in front of your shoulder.

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- Ah!

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- Ah's right, and then everything
stabilizes, you open it,

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you're the navigator, only as
far as it feels good to do.

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- Yeah.

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- That's so clean, Josh.

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Los Angeles has always been my city,

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I always knew that I was
put on this earth to dance

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and to move,

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I am now in my 70s, and I have moved

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in many, various, various kinds of ways

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throughout a lifetime.

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My aunt was in Martha
Graham's first company,

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and when Martha was too old
to do her solos on stage,

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she gave them to my aunt.

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And in those days,

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you didn't put children on
planes and send them whatever,

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but I bugged my family, to
please send me to New York,

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please send me to New
York to visit my aunt.

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So, maybe I was seven,
eight, something like that,

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I don't know,

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and they did, they put me on a plane,

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there I was in New York

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and I went to the first
rehearsal with Martha.

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And my aunt explained

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that I was gonna have to
sit there very quietly

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and it could go on for a very long time.

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Rehearsal with Martha could
be two hours, three hours,

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four hours, nobody knew.

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I sat down in the front
of the studio cross-legged

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and watched all these people warm up,

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waiting for Martha to come.

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Everybody was warming up
and they were doing things

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with their body that I
had never seen anybody do,

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it was wonderful.

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I understood from that
moment that art was work

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and I was going to work.

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There was the expectation that
I would be a Graham dancer,

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I didn't relate so much
to Graham technique

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'cause it had too much
angst going on in it.

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So, I wound up studying
with Merce Cunningham,

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I wound up playing with a bunch of people,

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including Twyla Tharp,
Yvonne Rainer, and John cage.

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Everybody was so injured, all
of the time as young people

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that I looked at this and
there was a dilemma there,

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I thought, you know, if
this is what it means

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at 20 years old to be a dancer,

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is that people are having
to have knee replacements

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and hip replacements and
they're in pain and whatever,

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there was a crisis there for me.

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And out of that crisis
was born, I really think,

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the technique that I have
developed now over 50 years.

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(upbeat music)

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- I have to get up right there.

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All right.

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(dramatic music)

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That's fuck off, no way.

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That's cool.

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Now that is what I call, the heaven spot.

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- I was in a chapter recently when,

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I really was having a very hard time

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and there was a void,

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a kind of avoid in terms
of making art, et cetera.

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A drunk driver was going
North on La Cienega,

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made a left hand turn into the driveway

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and did not step on the brakes,

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must have stepped on the gas or something

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and went all the way through
the side of the building

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and ensued a year and a
half with insurance company

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and the City of Los Angeles,

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who was so obstructionist.

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I said to myself, I really sat down

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and thought on it and meditated on,

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I said, well, maybe this is a sign that,

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you're in your 70s, that this is it,

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on and on and on.

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Well, this was months, I
was just beside myself,

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we were almost done,
almost done rebuilding it,

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front had to be redesigned,

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now there was a big plate glass
window right on the street.

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One Monday morning, I came here,

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(Linda chuckles)

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still waiting for the window,
I open the gate, I walk in,

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go through the passageway,
open the gate in front,

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and I look outside, I am stunned,

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absolutely stunned.

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I am looking at the board up
for the plate glass window

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and somebody has come and put up,

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beautiful, beautiful,

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okay, I would call it
art, beautiful graffiti.

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The board up was bigger
than the window, of course,

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and there's this gigantic
art all over the place,

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and I look at it, and
it's absolutely beautiful.

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And it's either at that moment,

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I thought a Vietnamese
or an Indonesian, mother,

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and she has this bamboo
pole over her shoulder

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and she has her two little
children in baskets in front.

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And you can tell that she's leaving home,

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they all have gas masks on,

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they all have gas masks,
the babies and her.

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And the other thing she has, behind her,

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in another little basket
is, a live bonsai tree.

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And it's obvious that she's
taken it from her home,

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when they're leaving their village.

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I call my office, and I
say, listen, it's happened,

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it's happened, we have graffiti all over.

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We're absolutely gonna keep it,

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we're gonna take it into the studio

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and we're gonna put it
on a wall in the studio.

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That happened, on a Sunday
night, just like the crash,

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in some ways kind of eerily,

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only, this morning I found art out there.

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Well, all it says there is
Inksap on it, but it says that,

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and we start looking, doing research,

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we can find that Inksap has
a website and what have you.

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And I start writing and I say,
listen, thank you very much,

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so would you please just
get in touch with me

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and tell me who you are,

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and let's say hello and
what have you, nothing.

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Absolutely nothing.

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- I was on Instagram and
someone had took a photo

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of the street art piece actually cut out,

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they actually cut it out of the wall.

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So I was thinking, well, fuck, that's it,

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it's cut out of the wall, that's it.

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- And then, I realized that,

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this kind of art is illegal,

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so of course, he thinks I'm gonna turn him

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into the authorities or
he thinks I'm portraying,

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that I like it a lot,

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and just as soon as I
get ahold of who he is,

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I'm gonna make trouble.

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- I got a couple direct messages

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and some emails of people
saying, hey, we have your art,

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we really like it.

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And usually this happened
to me so many times,

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most of the time, when
I get emails from email,

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from people about street art,

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it's typically negative
and sometimes positive.

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But this one was like decently positive,

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so I was kind of open to reading it.

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- Then I started to get emails from him,

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I don't remember exactly,

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but one day he called himself Bradley,

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another day, he called himself Brandon,

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another day he called himself, whatever.

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So, he wasn't gonna give me a name

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and he wasn't gonna give me an address,

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where I could send a check.

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- She started talking to
me about like, who are you?

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Blah, blah, blah.

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And so, I gave her fake
names and different things,

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and then eventually I realized,

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he's trying to help me out here.

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- He comes in the back door
with a friend behind him,

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I see that he's a young man in his 20s

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and his friend behind him is in his 20s.

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If I had made him up in my imagination,

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created him in my imagination,

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given everything from the
visuals he makes, it was perfect.

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They stayed for five and
a half hours that day,

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we couldn't extricate
ourselves from one another.

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(croaking)

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Doesn't it sound like a croak?

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- Awesome.

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- Also, hit it.

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- hit it?

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- Make music with it.

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- Oh!

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(tapping)

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(Linda chuckles)

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- Wow, this is wonderful.

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- And this is actually image of a,

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there's a soldier marching
somewhere into battle.

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It was a woman's soldier
and I really like the zest

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that she had on her march.

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- And I can just look straight
at you and I can tell,

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this is what you were meant to do.

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- Thank you.

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- Really, from the heart.

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You must keep doing it, somehow.

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(bowl humming)

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That's it.

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(bell chimes)
(phone vibrates)

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- I grew up in Orange County,
suburbs, all white kids,

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maybe I had a Chinese
friend around the corner.

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I definitely did feel really
separated from my culture,

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growing up, growing up
in a household where,

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yeah, we did speak Vietnamese

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and yeah, we ate a lot of Vietnamese food.

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But the disconnect was
when I go to school,

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I would see all the kids
interact in English,

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and when you're Asian and
that's your first language,

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people don't always understand you.

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And they always have their perceived ideas

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of what an Asian person might be,

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so, it wasn't always easy blending in,

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so, I had to change my identity.

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When you're growing up around folks,

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who aren't the same skin
color as you, or same,

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you don't identify with them.

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Shame, 'cause you think,
well, if I wasn't this person,

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if I wasn't this, if I
didn't grow up like this,

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or if I wasn't from this family,

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then I could be more normal,
I could be more accepted.

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I look back, be happy that
I had it the way it was.

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- What do my family thinks
of being a street artist?

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Well, they don't know.

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You have one world that says, get a job,

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get a house, be stable and be safe.

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And this is coming from people who have,

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given up their lives to
find hope in a new world,

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and then you have me, my brother
and people who are my age,

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hey, we didn't have that experience.

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Because of that misunderstanding,

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it makes me wanna work harder,

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so then I could show them
that, I really want this,

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not just for myself, but also
for the story that we have.

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And that there's more to this
life than just to be safe,

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I mean, my folks don't
understand everything I do,

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and as much as I can explain to them,

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it's still something that's
hard for 'em to grasp because,

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they don't see it as something as viable

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as a means of living.

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But at the same time, it's
like, well, what is it to live?

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Is it living to do something
that gets you through

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or is it living something
to do that gets you through,

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but also fills your soul?

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You curate your own happiness

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and your happiness comes from within,

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and if there's someone or
something or external factors

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that are preventing that happiness,

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then that tells you something already.

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That piece back there (indistinct)

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that is the representation
of my two sisters.

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And that piece, that's my third piece,

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it almost reminds me of,

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the possibilities of
living here in America...

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Just seeing that piece reminds me of them

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and what it is to be
free, fuck, I don't know,

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red, white and blue bitches.

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Having sisters and having
siblings that young,

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always reminds me of how
lucky we are to be here,

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how luck I am, how lucky my family is.

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My family made it over to America safely,

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no one got hurt, no one got fucked up,

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everyone made it, luckily.

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There's so many stories of people,

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who didn't make it over here,

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so when I see that piece,

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I think that piece symbolizes
what symbolizes, luck,

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it symbolizes, yeah, I'd say, luck.

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- So we started talking late at night,

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we found we had a lot
to say to each other.

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And then there was a moment
when I said to myself,

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Linda, you should be making art with ink,

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one night when we're
talking late, he says to me,

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we should be making art together.

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- I think it should be some sort of pose

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that ties between you and me.

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I just told her, look, I need to come,

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let me see what you do

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'cause I don't know what
you do, I know you move.

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I never went to one of your classes,

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but I wanna see what you do
when you are in your zone.

00:18:34.290 --> 00:18:35.700
The way she moves her body,

00:18:35.700 --> 00:18:40.309
is something almost supernatural.

00:18:40.309 --> 00:18:43.059
(birds chirping)

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- This is when I took the lizard,

00:19:26.610 --> 00:19:28.293
little different costuming,

00:19:29.250 --> 00:19:33.630
into another stream bed on
Georgia O'Keeffe's Ghost Ranch.

00:19:33.630 --> 00:19:38.070
This is spirit wolf,

00:19:38.070 --> 00:19:41.310
it's probably the most iconic dance,

00:19:41.310 --> 00:19:43.230
and the one I'm most known for.

00:19:43.230 --> 00:19:44.670
For each of these masks,

00:19:44.670 --> 00:19:46.860
I had to learn how to deal with them.

00:19:46.860 --> 00:19:48.870
And this one sat on top of the head,

00:19:48.870 --> 00:19:50.970
so I had to learn to tilt my head,

00:19:50.970 --> 00:19:53.730
so the eyes of the wolf were down.

00:19:53.730 --> 00:19:57.300
We ran a big TV set in
front of the audience

00:19:57.300 --> 00:19:58.920
that had Fox News on it,

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he comes on with his briefcase, et cetera.

00:20:02.010 --> 00:20:04.080
And ultimately it deteriorates,

00:20:04.080 --> 00:20:05.820
he gets rid of the briefcase,

00:20:05.820 --> 00:20:08.730
it has tons of money inside of it.

00:20:08.730 --> 00:20:11.733
And it's a demon, it's the devil,

00:20:12.581 --> 00:20:14.250
and the devil has, you couldn't see it

00:20:14.250 --> 00:20:18.243
under the trench coat,
a 25 foot long tail.

00:20:19.320 --> 00:20:21.573
To experience doing a dance,

00:20:24.330 --> 00:20:28.320
with no audience, except
the God's above and whatever

00:20:28.320 --> 00:20:29.463
in a stream bed,

00:20:30.450 --> 00:20:32.190
it was really interesting.

00:20:32.190 --> 00:20:33.960
When I removed the mask,

00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:36.390
I realized that a small
group of mule deer,

00:20:36.390 --> 00:20:38.733
had been watching, watching,

00:20:39.600 --> 00:20:43.830
only the deer, and I, share
the spirit and sweet memory

00:20:43.830 --> 00:20:45.870
of that performance.

00:20:45.870 --> 00:20:50.250
My dances never got planned
and then you put a mask on,

00:20:50.250 --> 00:20:54.420
it's not how any of these
happen, it's different,

00:20:54.420 --> 00:20:58.053
you put the mask on, you
go out onto the floor,

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And you wait until the being,

00:21:03.990 --> 00:21:07.110
the mask, the whatever,

00:21:07.110 --> 00:21:10.380
tells you what kinda body
movement it's supposed to have,

00:21:10.380 --> 00:21:12.780
it basically comes through.

00:21:12.780 --> 00:21:14.310
- That's the thing I liked
about climbing buildings

00:21:14.310 --> 00:21:17.707
'cause when you get up
there, there's no one there,

00:21:17.707 --> 00:21:19.800
just you, you own the city,

00:21:19.800 --> 00:21:21.360
you can look around.

00:21:21.360 --> 00:21:23.290
No one's gonna care and
ask you what you're doing,

00:21:23.290 --> 00:21:25.163
you're just up there in
your own little world.

00:21:26.310 --> 00:21:29.260
That's the only free time that
you can get around the city.

00:21:31.620 --> 00:21:32.733
There's a car there.

00:21:35.258 --> 00:21:36.308
I'll park right here.

00:22:11.199 --> 00:22:14.116
I'm just gonna be as fast as I can.

00:23:04.969 --> 00:23:06.386
We gotta get off.

00:23:16.248 --> 00:23:17.134
- [Steve] Fuck.

00:23:17.134 --> 00:23:17.967
- What?

00:23:19.340 --> 00:23:20.786
- [Steve] I'm a little bit
worried about getting down.

00:23:20.786 --> 00:23:22.453
- So I don't know...

00:23:22.453 --> 00:23:25.870
We're leaving, sorry, we're getting down.

00:23:50.146 --> 00:23:51.813
Could've been worse.

00:23:57.696 --> 00:23:58.980
(Inksap chuckles)

00:23:58.980 --> 00:24:01.080
You're gonna film more than you succeed,

00:24:01.080 --> 00:24:03.543
so, I give respect to them, they're cool.

00:24:05.190 --> 00:24:07.950
We tried, we got the I
up, that's what matters?

00:24:07.950 --> 00:24:09.063
We got the I up.

00:24:17.776 --> 00:24:20.412
- [Steve] That got my adrenaline
pumping, I'll tell you.

00:24:20.412 --> 00:24:21.245
- Yeah?

00:24:21.245 --> 00:24:23.193
That's the original
feel, I'm chasing, Steve.

00:24:48.185 --> 00:24:50.190
(bell chimes)

00:24:50.190 --> 00:24:54.450
Linda, how's it going?

00:24:54.450 --> 00:24:55.447
So good to see you.

00:24:56.328 --> 00:24:58.140
- Back at you.

00:24:58.140 --> 00:24:59.730
The first time we got together

00:24:59.730 --> 00:25:02.700
to try to see what would happen,

00:25:02.700 --> 00:25:07.700
we were here for over four
hours, I moved, he drew,

00:25:07.860 --> 00:25:10.110
he took photographs.

00:25:10.110 --> 00:25:15.030
It is very hard on a two
dimensional piece of paper

00:25:15.030 --> 00:25:20.030
to capture movement,
energetically and dynamically,

00:25:20.580 --> 00:25:21.453
and he does.

00:25:26.130 --> 00:25:30.600
- We started talking more about
how these different poses,

00:25:30.600 --> 00:25:32.040
talk about our story.

00:25:32.040 --> 00:25:34.410
- You get arrested for making art,

00:25:34.410 --> 00:25:37.920
I was arrested years ago
for demonstrating in this

00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:39.000
and the other thing.

00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:40.133
- Right.

00:25:40.133 --> 00:25:44.373
- Anyway, so I'm having a problem
with the way this country,

00:25:46.189 --> 00:25:48.210
is treating immigrants

00:25:48.210 --> 00:25:50.310
and taking children away from families.

00:25:50.310 --> 00:25:53.580
So, and the minute I
walked out that passageway,

00:25:53.580 --> 00:25:58.580
there was this passageway,
and I saw your thing up there.

00:25:59.460 --> 00:26:03.210
It was like, the gods have
sent me this piece of art,

00:26:03.210 --> 00:26:07.620
and it's, what's gonna make
meaning and sense out of,

00:26:07.620 --> 00:26:10.983
the way my heart's feeling
about what's not happening.

00:26:24.180 --> 00:26:26.640
- These are the sketches,
they're still drying.

00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.740
- It's very exciting.

00:26:28.740 --> 00:26:32.010
- I spent so much time on the
actual drawings (indistinct)

00:26:32.010 --> 00:26:33.333
This is fire.

00:26:34.590 --> 00:26:37.920
This is fire, there's four
different variants of it.

00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:40.680
You're so used to the body
moving in different ways,

00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:43.650
the body doesn't have to
always be on the ground,

00:26:43.650 --> 00:26:47.730
it can be any way, so when you
did that, that made me think,

00:26:47.730 --> 00:26:48.870
if you turn it in a way,

00:26:48.870 --> 00:26:50.970
it could look like it's moving in the air.

00:26:50.970 --> 00:26:52.220
- And then the thing is,

00:26:52.220 --> 00:26:54.873
is that you kind of dispense with gravity,

00:26:56.040 --> 00:26:57.858
it's wild and wonderful.

00:26:57.858 --> 00:26:58.691
(Linda chuckles)

00:26:58.691 --> 00:27:02.400
I'm so deeply moved, and it's beautiful,

00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:05.070
and the intersection, as you say,

00:27:05.070 --> 00:27:09.480
every now and then in the process of,

00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:12.300
my dropping into you and
you dropping into me,

00:27:12.300 --> 00:27:14.853
is so different for me,
is it different for you?

00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.563
And it's very ecstatic for
me, it's very wonderful.

00:27:21.598 --> 00:27:23.253
- I would say,

00:27:27.360 --> 00:27:28.740
I don't think it is different for me,

00:27:28.740 --> 00:27:31.353
I think I just go with it.

00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.250
That's why, when I saw you...

00:27:35.250 --> 00:27:37.803
So, when I saw how moved
you were by this it's,

00:27:39.623 --> 00:27:43.323
I wish I was able to feel that too,

00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:49.770
that's why it's so easy for
me to give these pieces away.

00:27:49.770 --> 00:27:50.990
I mean, it's...

00:28:05.010 --> 00:28:08.343
- I'm careful walking
away with them because,

00:28:09.630 --> 00:28:14.630
for me, you're not giving
me a piece, as you say,

00:28:16.650 --> 00:28:19.973
you're giving me a huge hunk of yourself.

00:28:24.780 --> 00:28:27.360
- And I think a lot of it has to do with

00:28:27.360 --> 00:28:29.610
my past and my upbringing,

00:28:29.610 --> 00:28:33.453
because it's so difficult
for me being the artist,

00:28:35.730 --> 00:28:37.855
I know you've been doing
it for so long yourself,

00:28:37.855 --> 00:28:41.460
you've lived through
many different art lines

00:28:41.460 --> 00:28:43.743
and I'm just here starting on mine.

00:28:44.966 --> 00:28:49.740
It's very challenging
having to face reality

00:28:49.740 --> 00:28:52.590
and expectation, especially
when it comes to your family,

00:28:57.210 --> 00:28:59.241
I think that's why for me,

00:28:59.241 --> 00:29:00.996
it's not much of an
emotional thing because,

00:29:00.996 --> 00:29:05.996
I always think of it as, well,
how can I sustain myself?

00:29:06.810 --> 00:29:08.070
But I also need to-

00:29:08.070 --> 00:29:09.540
- Which is a very pragmatic thing.

00:29:09.540 --> 00:29:10.373
- Which is very pragmatic.

00:29:10.373 --> 00:29:13.710
- And part of what you're
saying maybe, check it out,

00:29:13.710 --> 00:29:16.020
you can't allow it to
become an emotional thing

00:29:16.020 --> 00:29:17.011
at this point.

00:29:17.011 --> 00:29:17.844
- Mhm.

00:29:17.844 --> 00:29:21.210
- You can't be, I so hear you.

00:29:21.210 --> 00:29:22.560
- But I'm learning, as they-

00:29:22.560 --> 00:29:25.958
- But then you have me tripping
into your life going...

00:29:25.958 --> 00:29:27.390
(Linda chuckles)

00:29:27.390 --> 00:29:30.210
- And it's so hard for
me to say that because,

00:29:30.210 --> 00:29:33.690
that's always something
that I've held down

00:29:33.690 --> 00:29:35.780
and something that...

00:29:36.838 --> 00:29:40.650
It's just, as a man,

00:29:40.650 --> 00:29:43.620
it's so hard to show yourself

00:29:43.620 --> 00:29:46.860
or put yourself in a way
that seems vulnerable,

00:29:46.860 --> 00:29:48.480
but I shouldn't think of that,

00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:50.940
when I'm with people that I value,

00:29:50.940 --> 00:29:54.633
I should be myself and learn
to express myself in a way

00:29:54.633 --> 00:29:56.730
that I don't think that.

00:29:56.730 --> 00:30:01.360
So, I think this whole process

00:30:02.672 --> 00:30:03.690
to where we are now,

00:30:03.690 --> 00:30:04.770
especially with these drawings,

00:30:04.770 --> 00:30:08.100
has made me think a lot
about myself and you

00:30:08.100 --> 00:30:11.487
and what it is to be artists.

00:30:11.487 --> 00:30:16.487
♪ Peace is a flower ♪

00:30:19.571 --> 00:30:23.321
♪ That grows in the sunshine ♪

00:30:25.010 --> 00:30:30.010
- In the 60s, there were a
bunch of doctors in Los Angeles

00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:35.100
that got together and
they got a old naval ship,

00:30:35.100 --> 00:30:38.640
out of dry dock from the government.

00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.460
And they outfitted it
with medical equipment,

00:30:41.460 --> 00:30:45.990
and they asked doctors if they
would serve on these ships

00:30:45.990 --> 00:30:48.750
for two and three months, they
couldn't pay them, et cetera.

00:30:48.750 --> 00:30:53.040
And my dad, who was a doc, agreed to go,

00:30:53.040 --> 00:30:54.900
and he wound up going to,

00:30:54.900 --> 00:30:57.300
I think the first place
that the Hope Ship went to,

00:30:57.300 --> 00:30:58.473
which was Vietnam.

00:30:59.760 --> 00:31:03.030
And he worked on the ship and traveled,

00:31:03.030 --> 00:31:07.170
and then, the next thing
we know is that the ship,

00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:10.470
got a message from the
United States government

00:31:10.470 --> 00:31:13.173
that they needed to get the
hell out of there because,

00:31:14.220 --> 00:31:16.383
United States was at war with Vietnam.

00:31:18.780 --> 00:31:20.640
- [Reporter] People, lorries and cars,

00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:24.210
all chasing one American
evacuation come by after the other.

00:31:24.210 --> 00:31:25.950
But the embassy gates were closed,

00:31:25.950 --> 00:31:28.980
we had to fight and claw our way up,

00:31:28.980 --> 00:31:31.920
one by one, they came in
landing on an improvised pad

00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:33.990
in the car park, as the lucky people,

00:31:33.990 --> 00:31:37.500
ran 30 at a time to their
transport to safety.

00:31:37.500 --> 00:31:39.660
In the first six hours of Tuesday,

00:31:39.660 --> 00:31:43.980
over 1,500 people were
airlifted out this way,

00:31:43.980 --> 00:31:46.590
almost as many more were
still waiting their turn.

00:31:46.590 --> 00:31:50.640
- My family were refugees
from Vietnam war,

00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:55.640
my mom's family lived on
an island called Fukuoka.

00:31:55.980 --> 00:31:59.610
When the Fall of Saigon happened,
they all pulled together,

00:31:59.610 --> 00:32:00.870
hopped on the neighbor's boat,

00:32:00.870 --> 00:32:04.710
and they went out in the night to,

00:32:04.710 --> 00:32:06.120
I think it was an aircraft carrier.

00:32:06.120 --> 00:32:09.480
My grandma had sewn a pocket
in each one of their pants

00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:12.540
with enough money to get them through.

00:32:12.540 --> 00:32:14.040
So in case they got lost,

00:32:14.040 --> 00:32:16.330
they would have to pull the money out,

00:32:16.330 --> 00:32:19.320
food, whatever it is.

00:32:19.320 --> 00:32:22.380
So, in the middle of
the night, they escaped,

00:32:22.380 --> 00:32:25.800
my dad was there with my uncle,

00:32:25.800 --> 00:32:27.840
and my dad had hopped over the wall.

00:32:27.840 --> 00:32:29.850
My uncle couldn't jump over in time,

00:32:29.850 --> 00:32:33.090
when they stopped the flow
of people jumping over,

00:32:33.090 --> 00:32:34.950
and then, he luckily got on a helicopter,

00:32:34.950 --> 00:32:38.823
and he landed on the aircraft
carrier, came to Pennsylvania.

00:32:39.930 --> 00:32:42.150
Lot of people that are
Vietnamese and are my age,

00:32:42.150 --> 00:32:43.860
we don't think about that,

00:32:43.860 --> 00:32:47.130
but again, we don't wanna
think about that because,

00:32:47.130 --> 00:32:50.203
now that we have this opportunity,

00:32:50.203 --> 00:32:53.559
to do what we want and
choose a life that we want.

00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.470
It's kinda hard to look back,

00:32:55.470 --> 00:32:58.620
when sometimes it's good to look back,

00:32:58.620 --> 00:33:00.090
to see where you've come from

00:33:00.090 --> 00:33:02.960
and have that respect for your roots.

00:33:03.882 --> 00:33:06.465
(upbeat music)

00:33:09.202 --> 00:33:13.119
(speaking in foreign language)

00:33:19.542 --> 00:33:21.682
- So this goes for what?

00:33:21.682 --> 00:33:24.099
(indistinct)

00:33:25.662 --> 00:33:26.495
- Yeah.

00:33:26.495 --> 00:33:28.852
- Yeah (speaking in foreign language)

00:33:28.852 --> 00:33:31.435
(upbeat music)

00:34:04.112 --> 00:34:07.140
- [Linda] Is there a moment
that's been remarkable

00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:09.030
that you think about?

00:34:09.030 --> 00:34:12.120
- Monday, I went to a Vietnam war museum

00:34:12.120 --> 00:34:14.997
and I've been to many museums in the U.S,

00:34:14.997 --> 00:34:18.120
but this one in particular
at Ho Chi Minh City,

00:34:18.120 --> 00:34:19.260
it was very intense,

00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:23.070
it had images of people who
have, not only lost their life,

00:34:23.070 --> 00:34:25.773
but how their life have
been affected by the war.

00:34:27.122 --> 00:34:27.955
And this whole time,

00:34:27.955 --> 00:34:32.250
I've always wanted to make
art that honors that war.

00:34:32.250 --> 00:34:33.423
I started to realize,

00:34:34.350 --> 00:34:37.860
maybe I don't wanna
document the war as much

00:34:37.860 --> 00:34:40.350
as the culture, I've
been eating like a local,

00:34:40.350 --> 00:34:43.080
I've been going to local shops

00:34:43.080 --> 00:34:46.440
and seeing how beautiful
this country is now.

00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:50.220
I think that story is much
more worth telling than the war

00:34:50.220 --> 00:34:52.290
that had brought me over to the states.

00:34:52.290 --> 00:34:54.330
I think getting that
perspective of coming here

00:34:54.330 --> 00:34:57.503
and seeing that, mostly youth
here want to focus on the now

00:34:57.503 --> 00:34:58.710
and not the past,

00:34:58.710 --> 00:35:02.174
that really made me open
my eyes in a different way

00:35:02.174 --> 00:35:03.557
than before.

00:35:03.557 --> 00:35:05.220
It's a really interesting place,

00:35:05.220 --> 00:35:09.720
it's so interesting to see,
a life I could have had here,

00:35:09.720 --> 00:35:11.551
if things had turned a different way.

00:35:11.551 --> 00:35:12.741
(cars honking)

00:35:12.741 --> 00:35:15.324
(upbeat music)

00:35:46.901 --> 00:35:50.340
So a lot of times when I work,
for some reason, so messy,

00:35:50.340 --> 00:35:52.990
but everything else is
organized, I don't understand,

00:35:54.191 --> 00:35:56.858
I do not understand that at all.

00:36:01.211 --> 00:36:03.628
(soft music)

00:36:06.683 --> 00:36:08.073
This is is water.

00:36:09.240 --> 00:36:11.283
And I like earth better 'cause,

00:36:12.431 --> 00:36:14.880
it was so strong to step pose,

00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.233
it almost looked like immortal.

00:36:28.607 --> 00:36:30.690
I don't think I decided
to be a street artist,

00:36:30.690 --> 00:36:32.133
I think it happened.

00:36:34.815 --> 00:36:37.890
I never wanted to go out and put up art

00:36:37.890 --> 00:36:40.910
'cause I always feel like there's...

00:36:48.833 --> 00:36:51.150
I don't know, to be honest, I don't know,

00:36:51.150 --> 00:36:52.420
I don't know why I do it.

00:36:53.460 --> 00:36:56.743
I really never had done this with anyone,

00:36:56.743 --> 00:37:00.543
I never had let them in the
process this way, I mean,

00:37:01.590 --> 00:37:05.103
it's nice, it's something that
makes you think differently,

00:37:06.363 --> 00:37:10.500
and also at the same time
you have this ability to,

00:37:10.500 --> 00:37:13.833
use the image that you'd
never think you'd use.

00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:20.010
I always thought I'd be
using images of war, people,

00:37:20.010 --> 00:37:21.390
refugees, stuff like that,

00:37:21.390 --> 00:37:24.873
but there's something new about this,

00:37:25.933 --> 00:37:27.083
something fresh I like.

00:37:29.683 --> 00:37:31.124
I don't wanna be sad all the time.

00:37:31.124 --> 00:37:32.389
(Inksap chuckles)

00:37:32.389 --> 00:37:34.806
(rock music)

00:37:37.345 --> 00:37:39.012
This are old school.

00:37:42.053 --> 00:37:46.423
♪ Everyones talking i cant hear a thing ♪

00:37:46.423 --> 00:37:51.256
♪ I'm on the moon why
is the sky so green ♪

00:37:59.282 --> 00:38:01.513
♪ I think I'm walking up the stairs ♪

00:38:01.513 --> 00:38:03.733
♪ While I'm sitting
right down in my chair ♪

00:38:03.733 --> 00:38:06.133
♪ I feel so light but I'm not ♪

00:38:06.133 --> 00:38:08.213
♪ Everything's turning cold but it's hot ♪

00:38:08.213 --> 00:38:09.046
♪ Or am I ♪

00:38:09.046 --> 00:38:10.943
♪ Freakin' out Freakin' out Freakin' out ♪

00:38:10.943 --> 00:38:13.103
♪ Freakin' out Freakin' out Freakin' out ♪

00:38:13.103 --> 00:38:15.433
♪ Freakin' out Freakin' out Freakin' out ♪

00:38:15.433 --> 00:38:20.350
♪ Freakin' out Freakin'''
out Freakin' out ♪

00:38:35.743 --> 00:38:36.576
♪ Or am I ♪

00:38:36.576 --> 00:38:38.503
♪ Freakin' out Freakin' out Freakin' out ♪

00:38:38.503 --> 00:38:40.623
♪ Freakin' out Freakin' out Freakin' out ♪

00:38:40.623 --> 00:38:42.983
♪ Freakin' out Freakin' out Freakin' out ♪

00:38:42.983 --> 00:38:46.650
♪ Freakin' out Freakin' out ♪

00:38:48.260 --> 00:38:51.540
- So the lowest would be a
tag and there's throw ups,

00:38:51.540 --> 00:38:55.140
which is the bubble letters
and then pieces and murals,

00:38:55.140 --> 00:38:58.680
and mine, something like a
street art piece like this,

00:38:58.680 --> 00:39:02.190
would sit in between somewhere of a,

00:39:02.190 --> 00:39:05.760
below a mural, of course and
between a piece and a throw up.

00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:09.420
At the end of the day, the real goal is,

00:39:09.420 --> 00:39:10.647
get up and you stay up

00:39:10.647 --> 00:39:12.093
and that's what we're gonna do,

00:39:12.093 --> 00:39:12.990
we're gonna get up and stay up.

00:39:12.990 --> 00:39:15.240
And if someone takes us down,

00:39:15.240 --> 00:39:18.120
then we go back out and we stay up.

00:39:18.120 --> 00:39:19.513
All right, you ready to pull some screens?

00:39:19.513 --> 00:39:20.560
- I am.

00:39:20.560 --> 00:39:21.393
- Let's do it.

00:39:21.393 --> 00:39:22.470
I'm gonna do the first pull.

00:39:22.470 --> 00:39:24.390
- Okay.
- So you can watch me,

00:39:24.390 --> 00:39:27.303
but you wanna do just one easy pull,

00:39:31.952 --> 00:39:32.785
and that's it.

00:39:34.560 --> 00:39:38.469
So, you could go ahead and
pull, it doesn't fight,

00:39:38.469 --> 00:39:39.302
it just...

00:39:39.302 --> 00:39:40.135
- I know, but look how
even you made it, okay.

00:39:45.153 --> 00:39:46.019
- Perfect.

00:39:46.019 --> 00:39:46.951
- It's not perfect,

00:39:46.951 --> 00:39:47.784
(Linda chuckles)

00:39:47.784 --> 00:39:48.960
that is just wavy.

00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:50.610
- No, no, no, that's perfect.

00:39:50.610 --> 00:39:51.443
- Okay.

00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:57.300
- Perfect, that's it, that's it, Linda,

00:39:57.300 --> 00:39:58.350
that's awesome.

00:39:58.350 --> 00:40:00.123
Now, I'm gonna pull this last part.

00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:05.760
There we go.

00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:06.593
- Wow.

00:40:06.593 --> 00:40:07.426
- That's it.

00:40:11.190 --> 00:40:12.063
- Magic.

00:40:14.940 --> 00:40:15.903
- That's so cool.

00:40:17.730 --> 00:40:19.623
Right here, is perfect.

00:40:25.393 --> 00:40:27.450
That's it, that's it, look at that.

00:40:27.450 --> 00:40:28.283
- Wow.

00:40:28.283 --> 00:40:31.460
- I've been so worried about these images

00:40:31.460 --> 00:40:32.297
and making them-

00:40:32.297 --> 00:40:33.130
- Why?

00:40:33.130 --> 00:40:36.030
- 'Cause I want them to
be representation of you,

00:40:36.030 --> 00:40:41.030
and now I see them,
here, printed in living,

00:40:41.105 --> 00:40:42.480
I see you in them.

00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.090
But I've just been so worried
these past couple days,

00:40:45.090 --> 00:40:48.570
leading up to this, to us,
coming together and pulling it.

00:40:48.570 --> 00:40:50.130
- Don't worry.

00:40:50.130 --> 00:40:52.401
- This is the most
amazing thing I've done.

00:40:52.401 --> 00:40:54.984
(upbeat music)

00:40:59.277 --> 00:41:01.020
And I never draw self portraits,

00:41:01.020 --> 00:41:03.210
but I don't know what
I was doing this day.

00:41:03.210 --> 00:41:08.013
- I wish we had more of
you and Linda together.

00:41:09.060 --> 00:41:10.350
- I wish too, but-

00:41:10.350 --> 00:41:11.280
- We will.

00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:12.582
- Exactly, exactly.

00:41:12.582 --> 00:41:15.165
(upbeat music)

00:41:20.190 --> 00:41:21.023
All right.

00:41:27.180 --> 00:41:29.550
How do we dominate the streets?

00:41:29.550 --> 00:41:34.550
This, by putting big,
excuse me, fuck off posters.

00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:41.700
- It's so interesting,
because, help me out,

00:41:41.700 --> 00:41:44.070
what's fuck off about this?

00:41:44.070 --> 00:41:49.070
- It's so big, and it's so much
energy, so much good energy,

00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:52.320
it's so in your face that you have to...

00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.360
You won't ignore it.

00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.210
So, Linda, I will show you my space again,

00:41:57.210 --> 00:41:59.220
I didn't even show you my singing bowl,

00:41:59.220 --> 00:42:00.360
- No, you didn't.

00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.613
- So, I guess we'll both hop in,

00:42:04.723 --> 00:42:05.556
no, I don't need to.

00:42:05.556 --> 00:42:10.169
- I don't know if I can hop
in from there, but we'll see,

00:42:10.169 --> 00:42:13.336
Linda, doesn't know if she can hop in.

00:42:16.184 --> 00:42:18.684
(bowl chimes)

00:42:34.747 --> 00:42:36.723
- I love this little thing.

00:42:40.830 --> 00:42:44.253
Thank you, Linda, for
everything that you've given me,

00:42:45.300 --> 00:42:49.770
your time and your energy,
especially your energy,

00:42:49.770 --> 00:42:54.000
'cause there's not enough
of that in my life.

00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:55.980
- You say you're not emotional

00:42:55.980 --> 00:42:58.533
'cause you weren't allowed to be.

00:42:59.430 --> 00:43:01.180
And I'm very emotional, around you,

00:43:02.460 --> 00:43:06.720
especially like I said
earlier, I'm not sad,

00:43:06.720 --> 00:43:08.433
my tears aren't about sad.

00:43:11.250 --> 00:43:13.579
It's because I'm so deeply moved.

00:43:13.579 --> 00:43:16.162
(somber music)

00:43:17.670 --> 00:43:18.930
You, us.

00:43:18.930 --> 00:43:21.000
- Us, yes.

00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:22.531
- So back at you.

00:43:22.531 --> 00:43:25.114
(somber music)

00:43:28.388 --> 00:43:30.150
(Linda chuckles)

00:43:30.150 --> 00:43:32.500
For me to think of myself
as a fuck off poster-

00:43:34.671 --> 00:43:35.504
- Yeah.

00:43:35.504 --> 00:43:36.337
- It's just wonderful.

00:43:36.337 --> 00:43:37.557
- Yeah, you're a fuck off poster now.

00:43:37.557 --> 00:43:40.020
(Linda chuckles)

00:43:40.020 --> 00:43:43.893
So, this is our pail, obviously,

00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:46.140
this is where the glue would go in,

00:43:46.140 --> 00:43:49.530
the glues in the bucket outside
or in the back of my truck.

00:43:49.530 --> 00:43:50.823
We just pour in-

00:43:50.823 --> 00:43:52.410
- Into the back of the truck.

00:43:52.410 --> 00:43:54.210
- Yeah, it's in the Home Depot bucket,

00:43:54.210 --> 00:43:56.643
so we just pour in as much as we need.

00:43:57.690 --> 00:43:59.100
So there's that.

00:43:59.100 --> 00:44:01.683
- If I do my bare hands,
will the glue come off?

00:44:03.030 --> 00:44:03.863
- The glue will come off.

00:44:03.863 --> 00:44:04.770
- 'Cause I have to touch
people tomorrow in the studio

00:44:04.770 --> 00:44:06.063
as I help them.

00:44:06.063 --> 00:44:09.717
- Yes, even like these pants,
I wear every time I go out

00:44:09.717 --> 00:44:11.629
and the glue comes off every time.

00:44:11.629 --> 00:44:12.462
- Mhm.

00:44:13.355 --> 00:44:15.690
- This is (beeping)

00:44:15.690 --> 00:44:16.980
- Got it.

00:44:16.980 --> 00:44:19.950
- You have to cut that out
because, that's a secret,

00:44:19.950 --> 00:44:21.000
that's a secret,

00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.450
The secret is, we're using Elmer's glue.

00:44:24.450 --> 00:44:25.890
So you can see our spot,

00:44:25.890 --> 00:44:27.960
it's right there on that white wall.

00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:30.960
But we are here today to
give it some new energy,

00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:33.990
some good vibes.

00:44:33.990 --> 00:44:35.053
All right, that's it.

00:44:36.037 --> 00:44:37.620
- Does this one need a pole?

00:44:37.620 --> 00:44:38.453
Yes.

00:44:38.453 --> 00:44:39.286
- Yes, we do.

00:44:42.939 --> 00:44:45.772
(dramatic music)

00:44:52.650 --> 00:44:54.510
- Okay, and how much it's the first time?

00:44:54.510 --> 00:44:55.442
- That's it.

00:44:55.442 --> 00:44:56.275
- You should just leave it sloppy?

00:44:56.275 --> 00:44:57.990
- Yeah, yeah, leave it sloppy, the better.

00:44:57.990 --> 00:44:59.070
- Okay, yes?

00:44:59.070 --> 00:44:59.943
- Yep, perfect.

00:45:04.560 --> 00:45:06.960
- Do we do this fast or meticulously?

00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:08.433
- Meticulous and fast.

00:45:12.510 --> 00:45:13.620
Go.

00:45:13.620 --> 00:45:15.749
- Wait, you told me that
I wanna tuck this in.

00:45:15.749 --> 00:45:16.582
- Yeah.
- First.

00:45:16.582 --> 00:45:17.415
- Let's tuck it in.

00:45:17.415 --> 00:45:19.171
- I remember, right?
- Yep.

00:45:19.171 --> 00:45:20.004
- Okay.

00:45:21.349 --> 00:45:22.182
- Let me get it.

00:45:22.182 --> 00:45:23.015
- Okay.

00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:35.599
- That's it, it is on.

00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:36.498
- You think it is?

00:45:36.498 --> 00:45:37.709
- Yeah, that's perfect.

00:45:37.709 --> 00:45:38.849
- I will make sure it stays on.

00:45:38.849 --> 00:45:40.919
- Stays on, yes.

00:45:40.919 --> 00:45:42.509
All right, I'm gonna get
the other one set up.

00:45:42.509 --> 00:45:44.070
- Okay.

00:45:44.070 --> 00:45:46.053
- Linda, this is perfect.

00:45:47.539 --> 00:45:48.900
- Okay.

00:45:48.900 --> 00:45:50.850
Wow, that one's a double image.

00:45:50.850 --> 00:45:51.870
- That is.

00:45:51.870 --> 00:45:53.043
- That's beautiful.

00:45:55.110 --> 00:45:55.943
- All right.

00:46:00.509 --> 00:46:01.890
- Hey, guys.

00:46:01.890 --> 00:46:02.723
- Yeah.

00:46:02.723 --> 00:46:04.710
- That megaphone here
coming up is the cops.

00:46:04.710 --> 00:46:05.543
- Yeah.

00:46:05.543 --> 00:46:06.780
- Yeah, we're getting outta here.

00:46:06.780 --> 00:46:07.613
- Yeah, it's all good.

00:46:07.613 --> 00:46:08.612
- Thank you.

00:46:08.612 --> 00:46:09.445
- Have a good one, have a good night.

00:46:09.445 --> 00:46:11.310
- Grab your things, I really mean it.

00:46:11.310 --> 00:46:12.339
Thanks a lot.

00:46:12.339 --> 00:46:13.530
- Sure.

00:46:13.530 --> 00:46:14.363
- Boy.

00:46:16.729 --> 00:46:17.653
Let's go.

00:46:17.653 --> 00:46:19.620
- How do you feel?

00:46:19.620 --> 00:46:20.453
- Terrific.

00:46:20.453 --> 00:46:21.286
- Yeah?

00:46:21.286 --> 00:46:22.319
- Yeah, I'm good at this.

00:46:22.319 --> 00:46:24.069
(Linda chuckles)

00:46:24.069 --> 00:46:25.832
- 'Cause there's change a lot hung, Linda.

00:46:25.832 --> 00:46:26.665
- Mhm.

00:46:32.460 --> 00:46:34.470
Do you know that, once upon
a time, a long time ago,

00:46:34.470 --> 00:46:35.490
there was a kiddie park.

00:46:35.490 --> 00:46:36.960
- That was a kiddie park?

00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.150
- On the corner, with little ponies

00:46:39.150 --> 00:46:40.560
that you could ride around in a circle.

00:46:40.560 --> 00:46:41.700
- Really?

00:46:41.700 --> 00:46:42.533
- Yes, indeed.

00:46:42.533 --> 00:46:44.400
- Well, that must explains that
circular shape right there.

00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:45.663
- I know, maybe.

00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:49.704
- a kiddie park, wow!

00:46:49.704 --> 00:46:51.514
- Yeah, with a little tiny ferris wheel.

00:46:51.514 --> 00:46:52.450
- Wow.

00:46:52.450 --> 00:46:54.060
- Yeah.
- That's amazing.

00:46:54.060 --> 00:46:55.740
- Okay, now I see the remnants.

00:46:55.740 --> 00:46:56.573
- Yep.

00:46:58.050 --> 00:46:59.550
Yep, my old poster.

00:46:59.550 --> 00:47:01.230
- Take it, the whole thing.

00:47:01.230 --> 00:47:04.290
- Oh, oh, okay.

00:47:04.290 --> 00:47:06.140
All right, I like where you're going.

00:47:07.349 --> 00:47:08.220
Wow!

00:47:08.220 --> 00:47:09.053
- It's history.

00:47:09.053 --> 00:47:10.689
- Are you serious?

00:47:10.689 --> 00:47:12.963
Man, that's super good.

00:47:20.040 --> 00:47:22.710
- Now, this one is very
strategically placed.

00:47:22.710 --> 00:47:24.541
- It is, this is us.

00:47:24.541 --> 00:47:27.261
(Linda chuckles)

00:47:27.261 --> 00:47:28.678
This is exciting.

00:47:43.691 --> 00:47:46.322
- Okay, okay.

00:47:46.322 --> 00:47:49.072
(dramatic music)

00:47:55.151 --> 00:47:56.068
This thing.

00:47:57.541 --> 00:47:59.571
- I'll be right here, I'll catch you.

00:47:59.571 --> 00:48:02.404
(dramatic music)

00:48:15.071 --> 00:48:18.154
Crap, we went the wrong freaking way.

00:48:24.116 --> 00:48:24.949
- You all right?

00:48:24.949 --> 00:48:25.782
- Yeah.

00:48:25.782 --> 00:48:26.615
- Don't care about me.

00:48:26.615 --> 00:48:28.198
- I won't, I won't.

00:48:37.819 --> 00:48:38.652
- You want my hand?

00:48:38.652 --> 00:48:40.569
- No, I should be good.

00:48:43.180 --> 00:48:44.530
- That's the police.

00:48:44.530 --> 00:48:45.370
- Yep.

00:48:45.370 --> 00:48:47.140
- Careful of the barbed wire, Ink.

00:48:47.140 --> 00:48:47.973
- Yeah.

00:48:47.973 --> 00:48:50.253
- You don't need it on
your pants and face.

00:48:52.350 --> 00:48:54.660
- That's what I call, owning the streets.

00:48:54.660 --> 00:48:56.670
The thing about street art
that's different from graffiti,

00:48:56.670 --> 00:48:59.460
is that there is usually
a thought behind it

00:48:59.460 --> 00:49:00.810
or a process behind it.

00:49:00.810 --> 00:49:02.730
And then it's not that graffiti
doesn't have a process,

00:49:02.730 --> 00:49:06.600
but I mean, graffiti is more
about taking over territory

00:49:06.600 --> 00:49:08.010
and putting your name out there.

00:49:08.010 --> 00:49:09.090
And that's the same as street art,

00:49:09.090 --> 00:49:12.810
but there's also that witty,
thoughtful aspect to it

00:49:12.810 --> 00:49:15.243
that separates it from graffiti.

00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:20.890
Sometimes I get so good where,

00:49:20.890 --> 00:49:24.060
I know the sound of a
police car sounds like,

00:49:24.060 --> 00:49:27.273
and you can tell this area
is so friendly around here

00:49:27.273 --> 00:49:28.710
that they don't mind.

00:49:28.710 --> 00:49:30.900
- Comparatively, absolutely.

00:49:30.900 --> 00:49:31.733
You ready?

00:49:31.733 --> 00:49:32.566
- Yeah.

00:49:34.500 --> 00:49:35.550
We'll switch, I'm gonna switch with you.

00:49:35.550 --> 00:49:36.383
- All right.

00:49:48.570 --> 00:49:50.700
Uh-oh, Ink, we're in trouble.

00:49:50.700 --> 00:49:51.623
- That's okay.

00:49:51.623 --> 00:49:52.456
- Okay.

00:49:52.456 --> 00:49:53.289
- [Police] How's it going?

00:49:53.289 --> 00:49:54.122
- Yeah, how's it going?

00:49:54.122 --> 00:49:55.560
- [Police] You can't be
doing wheatpasting here.

00:49:55.560 --> 00:49:56.393
- No?

00:49:56.393 --> 00:49:57.226
- [Police] It's considered vandalism here.

00:49:57.226 --> 00:49:58.313
- But all the other people
put it on the building,

00:49:59.353 --> 00:50:01.553
we see all the other
people put on the building,

00:50:01.553 --> 00:50:02.386
all the time.

00:50:02.386 --> 00:50:04.488
- [Police] Yeah, that's
exactly why we painted over.

00:50:04.488 --> 00:50:05.321
- Man.

00:50:05.321 --> 00:50:06.481
- It was you who painted over?

00:50:06.481 --> 00:50:07.980
- [Police] Yeah, clean
team paints over it.

00:50:07.980 --> 00:50:08.813
- Man.

00:50:08.813 --> 00:50:09.646
- [Police] Yeah, sorry about that.

00:50:09.646 --> 00:50:10.479
- So we can't finish this up?

00:50:10.479 --> 00:50:11.540
- [Police] No, man, you gotta stop.

00:50:11.540 --> 00:50:14.207
- All right, we will stop.
- Man.

00:50:16.614 --> 00:50:19.140
(Linda chuckles)

00:50:19.140 --> 00:50:21.510
- They're contractors so that they're not-

00:50:21.510 --> 00:50:23.070
- I deal with them all the time.

00:50:23.070 --> 00:50:23.987
- Do you?

00:50:23.987 --> 00:50:24.820
- Yeah.

00:50:24.820 --> 00:50:25.653
- All right.

00:50:25.653 --> 00:50:28.500
So, the next question
is, what do you wanna do?

00:50:28.500 --> 00:50:29.910
- We keep going, that's what we do.

00:50:29.910 --> 00:50:30.743
- Okay.

00:50:30.743 --> 00:50:32.350
- We'll just kinda avoid this area.

00:50:34.620 --> 00:50:35.460
- Are they following us?

00:50:35.460 --> 00:50:36.330
- Yeah, but we'll park right here.

00:50:36.330 --> 00:50:37.350
- They are?

00:50:37.350 --> 00:50:38.183
- We'll park right here.

00:50:38.183 --> 00:50:39.340
- But I wouldn't park, keep going.

00:50:39.340 --> 00:50:40.173
- No?

00:50:40.173 --> 00:50:41.006
- No, if they're following you.

00:50:41.006 --> 00:50:41.880
- Well-

00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:44.670
- Yeah, they wanna huddle
you out of the district,

00:50:44.670 --> 00:50:46.290
they are right behind us, right?

00:50:46.290 --> 00:50:47.123
- Yeah.

00:50:47.123 --> 00:50:48.281
- Yes they are.

00:50:48.281 --> 00:50:49.770
Okay, we have to have a strategy.

00:50:49.770 --> 00:50:51.270
This is a little like the movies,

00:50:51.270 --> 00:50:52.846
you've gotta lose them, Ink.

00:50:52.846 --> 00:50:56.070
- Yeah.
(Linda chuckles)

00:50:56.070 --> 00:50:57.420
- Ink, you gotta lose them.

00:50:58.380 --> 00:51:00.289
Let's see if there are really tailing us,

00:51:00.289 --> 00:51:01.122
pretend like it's a fueling turn.

00:51:02.649 --> 00:51:05.220
- They know what the truck looks like.

00:51:05.220 --> 00:51:06.750
- He could have turned left.

00:51:06.750 --> 00:51:07.890
- Yeah.
- Many times,

00:51:07.890 --> 00:51:09.360
he's just waiting.

00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:11.610
Well, he's just not making a move.

00:51:11.610 --> 00:51:12.900
- Nope.

00:51:12.900 --> 00:51:14.752
- Do you suppose they have binoculars too?

00:51:14.752 --> 00:51:16.141
(Linda chuckles)

00:51:16.141 --> 00:51:20.130
What is it called, when
people are hunting?

00:51:20.130 --> 00:51:21.300
I'm a good decoy.

00:51:21.300 --> 00:51:22.440
- You're a good decoy, yes,

00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:23.579
you're a great decoy.

00:51:23.579 --> 00:51:26.412
(dramatic music)

00:51:33.073 --> 00:51:36.430
- You said you renovated and then-

00:51:36.430 --> 00:51:38.228
- Let's go there, let's go there.

00:51:38.228 --> 00:51:39.061
- Okay.

00:51:39.061 --> 00:51:39.894
- I'll tell you when.

00:51:41.460 --> 00:51:42.600
Are you ready, Linda?

00:51:42.600 --> 00:51:43.433
- Ready.

00:51:43.433 --> 00:51:44.523
- 3, 2, 1.

00:51:46.350 --> 00:51:47.183
- Ready?

00:51:47.183 --> 00:51:48.016
- Yeah.

00:51:48.016 --> 00:51:49.020
- Did you count?

00:51:49.020 --> 00:51:52.214
You already dropped it,
I couldn't hear you.

00:51:52.214 --> 00:51:55.047
(dramatic music)

00:52:02.224 --> 00:52:04.380
- You know, just this
little section alone,

00:52:04.380 --> 00:52:05.213
is really interesting.

00:52:05.213 --> 00:52:06.207
- Yeah, it really is.

00:52:08.253 --> 00:52:09.190
- So cool.

00:52:09.190 --> 00:52:10.023
(dramatic music)

00:52:10.023 --> 00:52:11.639
That's us, Linda.

00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:12.578
- Us.

00:52:12.578 --> 00:52:13.411
- That's us.

00:52:13.411 --> 00:52:15.141
(Linda chuckles)
That's us.

00:52:15.141 --> 00:52:17.474
- The last one of the night.

00:52:23.416 --> 00:52:26.140
Okay, this is the one that...

00:52:26.140 --> 00:52:27.807
Take it 'cause of...

00:52:30.218 --> 00:52:31.140
You're gonna do your shoes?

00:52:31.140 --> 00:52:32.130
Say, yes.

00:52:32.130 --> 00:52:34.424
- Yeah, yes, yes, yes.

00:52:34.424 --> 00:52:37.304
(sirens wailing)

00:52:37.304 --> 00:52:39.104
We got out in the nick of time, wow.

00:52:40.110 --> 00:52:42.347
We really did get out in the nick of time.

00:52:42.347 --> 00:52:45.097
(sirens wailing)

00:52:46.230 --> 00:52:47.400
It's quite real.

00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:48.600
- Yes, it is quite real.

00:52:50.514 --> 00:52:54.450
I'll take a peep in the window

00:52:54.450 --> 00:52:55.300
- Oh my.
- Jeez.

00:52:58.140 --> 00:52:59.700
- Some sort of fire.
- Yeah.

00:52:59.700 --> 00:53:00.810
- But that's why I want my own place

00:53:00.810 --> 00:53:02.580
'cause I wanted a place where I can-

00:53:02.580 --> 00:53:03.540
- Make messes.

00:53:03.540 --> 00:53:06.180
- I can make a mess, chuck on the floor.

00:53:06.180 --> 00:53:07.440
- Keep going.

00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:08.273
- Yeah.

00:53:08.273 --> 00:53:09.993
Yell at my stuff.

00:53:09.993 --> 00:53:10.826
(Linda chuckles)

00:53:10.826 --> 00:53:11.940
Be angry.
- Yell at your stuff?

00:53:11.940 --> 00:53:16.110
- Yeah, yell at the gear,
cuss it out, go home, sleep,

00:53:16.110 --> 00:53:19.482
come back and then apologize
and make love to the art.

00:53:19.482 --> 00:53:20.315
(Linda chuckles)

00:53:20.315 --> 00:53:21.870
- Apologize to your own art?

00:53:21.870 --> 00:53:23.194
- And make love to it again.

00:53:23.194 --> 00:53:25.014
(Linda chuckles)

00:53:25.014 --> 00:53:26.514
- Dude, I love it.

00:53:28.530 --> 00:53:33.060
It's totally surreal being on
top of commercial buildings

00:53:33.060 --> 00:53:36.360
that have big billboards on them,

00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:39.960
that you and I see, from our car

00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:41.400
and are made to see from the car.

00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:44.700
All of a sudden, it's like
"Alice in Wonderland",

00:53:44.700 --> 00:53:46.200
and I said to him, you know,

00:53:46.200 --> 00:53:48.960
what you do is actually performance art,

00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:53.820
it has actually choreographic,
techniques attached to it,

00:53:53.820 --> 00:53:55.290
pathways.

00:53:55.290 --> 00:53:58.680
There is body movement attached to it,

00:53:58.680 --> 00:54:03.120
it is improvisational, you have audiences.

00:54:03.120 --> 00:54:07.800
It reminds me of, in the
1960s, when I was in New York,

00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:10.650
I was in Twyla Tharp's pickup company.

00:54:10.650 --> 00:54:14.370
We learned the choreography
inside the studio,

00:54:14.370 --> 00:54:15.570
and then, we went out,

00:54:15.570 --> 00:54:19.500
she took us, everybody out
into Central Park, on the lawn

00:54:19.500 --> 00:54:22.110
and placed something like 25 dancers,

00:54:22.110 --> 00:54:24.480
just in the middle of Central Park,

00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:25.860
to do what they were gonna do.

00:54:25.860 --> 00:54:27.510
And there was no beginning to end,

00:54:27.510 --> 00:54:31.050
and you just started, it was fascinating.

00:54:31.050 --> 00:54:32.700
Some of the people in Central Park,

00:54:32.700 --> 00:54:36.210
the audience would walk
right through the dance,

00:54:36.210 --> 00:54:39.750
other people, frankly
just didn't give a damn,

00:54:39.750 --> 00:54:41.220
they kept going.

00:54:41.220 --> 00:54:45.750
The thing that's very similar
to dance and movement,

00:54:45.750 --> 00:54:48.180
and to what Ink does on the streets,

00:54:48.180 --> 00:54:50.223
is that both are really ephemeral.

00:54:51.150 --> 00:54:54.450
I'm interested because, this is about art,

00:54:54.450 --> 00:54:57.930
that is egalitarian.

00:54:57.930 --> 00:54:59.940
It's art that is not in a museum,

00:54:59.940 --> 00:55:01.230
where you have to pay a fee,

00:55:01.230 --> 00:55:05.040
it is art that is out there for everybody,

00:55:05.040 --> 00:55:07.740
and that everybody is
gonna pay attention to it

00:55:07.740 --> 00:55:10.683
in the way that they pay attention to it.

00:55:11.580 --> 00:55:14.550
- Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho,
I'm going the wrong way,

00:55:14.550 --> 00:55:16.353
I just passed Beverly, fuck.

00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:21.584
Yeah, I see those,
there's people in there,

00:55:21.584 --> 00:55:24.390
it's probably like the
same dudes, but again,

00:55:24.390 --> 00:55:25.590
yeah, and the I's there.

00:55:26.850 --> 00:55:29.730
See, we can enter from the far side,

00:55:29.730 --> 00:55:30.933
which is in the dark.

00:55:32.580 --> 00:55:33.903
It's okay, we'll get this.

00:55:39.390 --> 00:55:41.140
Don't I really know my gut feeling?

00:55:42.810 --> 00:55:44.613
My gut feeling says, wait an hour.

00:55:45.600 --> 00:55:48.914
It's a good one, it's tricky,
but it's a tricky one,

00:55:48.914 --> 00:55:50.064
it's a really good one.

00:55:52.650 --> 00:55:53.850
Yeah, it's super tricky.

00:55:55.534 --> 00:55:58.367
(dramatic music)

00:56:00.570 --> 00:56:03.363
I know, I'm thinking the
same too, but what the fuck?

00:56:05.430 --> 00:56:07.330
I mean, look, this is the other thing,

00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:10.857
I'm gonna need a little more
and I'm gonna go in the back

00:56:10.857 --> 00:56:13.410
and check to see if their cars have left

00:56:13.410 --> 00:56:16.445
and maybe they just fucking
leave the lights on.

00:56:16.445 --> 00:56:19.278
(dramatic music)

00:56:27.041 --> 00:56:31.244
So, I think, let's get it.

00:56:31.244 --> 00:56:33.994
(dramatic music)

00:57:07.041 --> 00:57:08.708
Okay, just go there.

00:57:10.411 --> 00:57:13.010
Three, two, go.

00:57:13.010 --> 00:57:15.760
(dramatic music)

00:57:26.817 --> 00:57:28.484
Careful not to slip.

00:57:29.369 --> 00:57:32.202
(dramatic music)

00:58:11.781 --> 00:58:15.728
That is crazy, that looks great,

00:58:15.728 --> 00:58:18.478
you can't do that during the day.

00:58:24.980 --> 00:58:27.480
(indistinct)

00:58:41.170 --> 00:58:43.040
- This will be great if I
take my shirt off right now.

00:58:43.040 --> 00:58:43.873
- Go for it.
(Inksap chuckles)

00:58:43.873 --> 00:58:44.706
- No, just...

00:58:44.706 --> 00:58:49.706
- Look, the wind has found
us a (indistinct) here.

00:58:51.162 --> 00:58:53.995
(dramatic music)

00:59:17.414 --> 00:59:18.581
Wait a second.

00:59:23.407 --> 00:59:28.324
Don't look at me, you don't
wanna to have food or anything?

00:59:29.959 --> 00:59:30.792
Thank you.

00:59:33.549 --> 00:59:37.601
- We are going to Budapest, pes, pesh,

00:59:37.601 --> 00:59:39.579
I swear I have a hard
time pronouncing that.

00:59:39.579 --> 00:59:41.569
- We are, we are going.

00:59:41.569 --> 00:59:43.710
we're about ready to land.

00:59:43.710 --> 00:59:46.740
We are artists and residents.

00:59:46.740 --> 00:59:47.683
- Yep.

00:59:47.683 --> 00:59:51.270
- Off the streets, and into a gallery,

00:59:51.270 --> 00:59:53.400
where the art has been accepted.

00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:55.080
- I've never been to Europe before.

00:59:55.080 --> 00:59:59.070
I always spent a few days
gauging, what I'm gonna do,

00:59:59.070 --> 01:00:02.610
and just kind of like,
okay, this area is cool,

01:00:02.610 --> 01:00:04.170
this area is not art friendly.

01:00:04.170 --> 01:00:05.880
This area has a lot of street art,

01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:10.113
this area has lot graffiti,
this area is not the right area,

01:00:10.980 --> 01:00:14.070
so, there's a level of seeing what's right

01:00:14.070 --> 01:00:16.590
and making a good judgment.

01:00:16.590 --> 01:00:17.970
When we were young,

01:00:17.970 --> 01:00:22.970
my dad would always make
a cardboard box suitcase,

01:00:23.160 --> 01:00:27.510
I just distinctively remember,
that when you make the box,

01:00:27.510 --> 01:00:28.980
someone would hold their hand up here,

01:00:28.980 --> 01:00:32.228
so then they would put
the tape as a handle.

01:00:32.228 --> 01:00:35.284
So I'd go like that and
then you could carry it.

01:00:35.284 --> 01:00:37.951
(upbeat music)

01:00:58.434 --> 01:01:01.590
It was definitely the first
music I was exposed to,

01:01:01.590 --> 01:01:02.953
my dad listened to it,

01:01:06.124 --> 01:01:08.147
always wanted me to be a violin player,

01:01:09.514 --> 01:01:12.813
but, nope.

01:01:30.324 --> 01:01:31.830
I've been waiting for this,

01:01:31.830 --> 01:01:34.003
you guys ready to have some fun?

01:01:34.003 --> 01:01:36.868
(upbeat music)
Let's do this.

01:01:36.868 --> 01:01:39.451
(upbeat music)

01:02:25.112 --> 01:02:28.052
(speaking in foreign language)

01:02:28.052 --> 01:02:29.432
- Not bad, but I know it's good.

01:02:29.432 --> 01:02:30.515
- Okay, good.

01:02:48.166 --> 01:02:50.634
(speaking in foreign language)

01:02:50.634 --> 01:02:51.467
- Is that, cheers?

01:02:51.467 --> 01:02:52.300
- Yeah.

01:02:52.300 --> 01:02:53.133
- One more time.

01:02:53.133 --> 01:02:57.050
(speaking in foreign language)

01:03:34.802 --> 01:03:35.635
(audience applauding)

01:03:35.635 --> 01:03:36.748
- Like I never grew up and thought,

01:03:36.748 --> 01:03:37.581
well, I'm gonna be artist.

01:03:37.581 --> 01:03:39.330
Like when I was growing
up, I always thought, well,

01:03:39.330 --> 01:03:43.360
I'm gonna be someone who works in medical

01:03:44.250 --> 01:03:49.250
or someone who works a regular job,

01:03:49.860 --> 01:03:52.530
like I never had the
dream to be an artist.

01:03:52.530 --> 01:03:56.460
I think it wasn't until that I made art

01:03:56.460 --> 01:03:59.100
and realized where I was going,
was when I realized that,

01:03:59.100 --> 01:04:00.810
I could be an artist.

01:04:00.810 --> 01:04:03.657
Like I'm not a street
artist, I'm a fucking artist,

01:04:03.657 --> 01:04:06.690
and I get to do what I want
and I could be anywhere I want

01:04:06.690 --> 01:04:08.820
and I could put up art,
whether it's in the streets,

01:04:08.820 --> 01:04:09.750
whether it's in the gallery,

01:04:09.750 --> 01:04:13.023
whether it's on the side of this stone.

01:04:15.450 --> 01:04:18.840
I realize that I can be an
artist and I can make it,

01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:20.643
and I just can't give up.

01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:31.860
- What does it feel like being out there?

01:04:31.860 --> 01:04:36.840
He said, I walked down the
middle of the street alone

01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:40.800
and I own the street.

01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:42.960
I could tell that he was also saying,

01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:47.870
that's where I am most
connected, to myself,

01:04:50.220 --> 01:04:52.170
and said, to my art.

01:04:52.170 --> 01:04:56.910
And I flashed on, what I do in the desert,

01:04:56.910 --> 01:04:57.930
I do it, the same thing,

01:04:57.930 --> 01:05:00.090
I walk out into the middle
of the desert alone,

01:05:00.090 --> 01:05:02.340
all I can see is the horizon,

01:05:02.340 --> 01:05:04.560
there is nothing else around.

01:05:04.560 --> 01:05:07.437
And that's where I am
most connected to myself

01:05:07.437 --> 01:05:10.710
and my art and my own humanity,

01:05:10.710 --> 01:05:12.150
where he's most connected to his,

01:05:12.150 --> 01:05:13.200
is in the middle of the street.

01:05:13.200 --> 01:05:15.600
And again, it's diametric
opposites and you know what?

01:05:15.600 --> 01:05:16.453
It's the same.

01:05:16.453 --> 01:05:18.630
- I never thought I'd be
collaborating with someone

01:05:18.630 --> 01:05:19.800
with street art,

01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:22.443
I didn't think that I would
find the right person,

01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:26.190
but with, Linda, she's
the right kinda person,

01:05:26.190 --> 01:05:27.750
she learns fast.

01:05:27.750 --> 01:05:29.700
She puts some art first too,

01:05:29.700 --> 01:05:34.650
and she's willing to go out the extra step

01:05:34.650 --> 01:05:38.220
to be able to get the art
out and the message out.

01:05:38.220 --> 01:05:43.220
- My young friend is a true,
authentic, and real artist,

01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:47.670
he lets very little get in the way.

01:05:47.670 --> 01:05:51.030
He gets that artist work
is really hard work,

01:05:51.030 --> 01:05:53.460
and he is really hard working at it,

01:05:53.460 --> 01:05:56.790
which means that he will
make it happen in his life.

01:05:56.790 --> 01:05:57.663
I believe in him.

01:05:59.520 --> 01:06:04.520
It's about having the courage
with yourself to become,

01:06:05.550 --> 01:06:07.683
and live out who you really are,

01:06:08.790 --> 01:06:10.783
and that takes courage.

01:06:10.783 --> 01:06:15.480
- I have two different families,
I have my biological family

01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:17.730
and I have my art family.

01:06:17.730 --> 01:06:20.040
What really draws me
towards my art family,

01:06:20.040 --> 01:06:23.100
and particularly Linda,
we have these things in us

01:06:23.100 --> 01:06:24.303
that we have to let out.

01:06:25.140 --> 01:06:28.860
Whether it is through movement, painting,

01:06:28.860 --> 01:06:33.522
going in the streets or
being in front of people.

01:06:33.522 --> 01:06:38.522
- His family in a way that is significant

01:06:39.270 --> 01:06:41.333
and maybe authentic in ways

01:06:41.333 --> 01:06:44.400
that sometimes real family is not,

01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:46.233
he just emerged.

01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:52.050
Him into my life, me into
his life, and we knew that,

01:06:52.050 --> 01:06:54.750
we knew something, from
the very beginning,

01:06:54.750 --> 01:06:58.020
what it is, I'm not even
sure I can articulate,

01:06:58.020 --> 01:07:00.810
but it keeps elevating
itself and deepening itself.

01:07:00.810 --> 01:07:04.590
And that's the definition
of any good relationship.

01:07:04.590 --> 01:07:06.245
What is love, really?

01:07:06.245 --> 01:07:10.323
It's seeing who another
human being really is,

01:07:11.700 --> 01:07:16.530
it's understanding who that person is.

01:07:16.530 --> 01:07:21.530
It's supporting who that person is.

01:07:21.750 --> 01:07:26.750
It's being there when you
don't totally understand,

01:07:26.850 --> 01:07:30.480
and that makes him family.

01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:33.480
- You do things because
it was destiny to be done,

01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:36.600
you do things because you know it's right,

01:07:36.600 --> 01:07:38.010
it just happened that I
was in the right place

01:07:38.010 --> 01:07:38.910
at the right time.

01:07:39.900 --> 01:07:42.847
And it was destiny for me to meet her.

01:07:44.700 --> 01:07:47.160
- [Man] Is there anything
you would like to say

01:07:47.160 --> 01:07:49.593
to the driver that hit your building?

01:07:52.020 --> 01:07:53.073
- Thank you.

01:07:53.073 --> 01:07:55.906
(Linda chuckles)

01:08:14.893 --> 01:08:16.961
♪ One, two, three, four ♪

01:08:16.961 --> 01:08:20.044
(instrumental music)

01:08:35.503 --> 01:08:39.553
♪ And then the past recedes ♪

01:08:39.553 --> 01:08:43.953
♪ And I won't be involved ♪

01:08:43.953 --> 01:08:48.083
♪ The effort to be free ♪

01:08:48.083 --> 01:08:51.833
♪ Seems pointless from above ♪

01:09:11.553 --> 01:09:16.103
♪ Ooh ♪

01:09:16.103 --> 01:09:21.103
♪ I'm disguised as a reaching hand ♪

01:09:22.750 --> 01:09:25.013
♪ I'm a working man ♪

01:09:25.013 --> 01:09:29.663
♪ I don't understand why clock out ♪

01:09:29.663 --> 01:09:34.083
♪ Come so slow every time ♪

01:09:34.083 --> 01:09:39.083
♪ That's one line I stay right behind ♪

01:09:42.830 --> 01:09:47.830
♪ That's one line I stay right behind ♪

01:09:54.394 --> 01:09:56.394
♪ Yeah ♪