Smile4Kime
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SMILE4KIME is an experimental documentary that explores the friendship between two women: Kime–a vibrant, unapologetic Black woman who lived with mental illness, and Elena–an Afro Puerto Rican woman and devoted friend coping with grief in the wake of Kime’s death. This story begins as a conversation between Kime and Elena unfolding across time and space. They ask each other about who they are, what they need, and what their future holds. As Kime’s mental health begins to spiral, the film urgently weaves together the past, present, and future in search of answers. Elena’s spiritual practice is a key element in the film, serving as the mechanism that transports Elena (and the viewer) through time and spiritual worlds. Rendered through animation, her altar operates as a portal between the present, the past, and unrealized futures. As we journey to the past, bright, warm, handheld footage depicts Kime and Elena early in their friendship. Here, Kime offers critical insight about her experiences as a Black woman with mental illness navigating the harmful institutions that were meant to support her. In the present, Elena exists in a quiet shadow space. She moves through grief after Kime’s passing, processing guilt and reflecting on the memories of her inability to support Kime when their friendship was “too much.” From this shadow space, a future emerges, rendered through animation and tied to Elena’s altar, a future where they continue to hold and make space for each other.
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Main credits
Guzman, Elena (film director)
Guzman, Elena (film producer)
Guzman, Elena (screenwriter)
Bloss, Cybee (film producer)
Edwards, Kimberly (screenwriter)
Menchaca Ruiz, Laura (screenwriter)
Other credits
Cinematography, Elena Guzman; editor, Laura Menchaca Ruiz; music, Sabrina Pantal.
Distributor subjects
Mental Health & Suicide; Grief; Black Women's Friendship & Experiences; Spirituality & HealingKeywords
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[ambient tones]
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[drums beating]
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[water trickles]
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[scissors cutting]
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[low tones join beat]
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[metal clacking]
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[gas clicking]
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[soft piano music]
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[Kime]: Was there ever a time
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when you just felt
like it was too much?
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- Too much in terms of?
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[Kime]: Like with everything
that I was dealing with,
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and just the idea that I could
possibly not be here anymore.
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Was there ever a time when
you just wanted to give up
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or you felt like
it was just too much?
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[high humming tones]
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[bell chimes]
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[Opening instrumentals of
"The Man" by Aloe Blacc]
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- Aw, Kim, you look so pretty!
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I have to tell myself that.
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Until I believe it.
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Okay.
[singing along]
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And that's how
you burn yourself.
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I've only done it
a couple times. [laughs]
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I was singing one day and
I was like, I was like, "oh shi"
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And then I dropped it.
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'Cause I dropped it,
I burned my arm too.
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Like, oh fuck.
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♪ Paid for every heart
that I ever stole ♪
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♪ I played my cards
and I didn't fold ♪
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♪ Well it ain't that
hard when you got soul ♪
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♪ This is my world
[Kime sings along]
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♪ Somewhere I heard
that life is a test ♪
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♪ I been through the worst
Okay.
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♪ but I still give my best
Now I just need lip gloss.
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My lip gloss is popping,
my lip gloss is cool.
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What color?
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♪ This is my world
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[music continues]
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And this piece of art, it looks
like it's here to remind me,
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some good things, but it's
really just to wipe off
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the extra lipstick. [laughs]
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[match hisses]
[contemplative choral music]
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[Elena whispering in Spanish]
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[Kime]: I think when
I first moved into the house,
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I feel like you and I really,
we didn't really click.
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I don't know if we didn't click
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or we just didn't know how
to interact with one another.
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So I can't really remember,
like, when our relationship
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started to become
more of a friendship.
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[Elena]: I think it was
after Natalie moved out,
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um, and you and Natalie
were like really close.
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And then, you know,
at the end you guys
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kind of had this falling out.
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[Kime]: Yeah.
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[Elena]: And at that
moment I was like,
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I had realized that like...
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it wasn't fair that
people could come in
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and out of your life to the
extent that they wanted to
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or interact with you only
in a kind of distant way
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or whenever it was more
convenient to them.
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And so I think at that
moment I had made a decision
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that like, I wanted you
to be in my life,
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because I appreciated
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everything that you
brought to my life,
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and I was gonna do it in a way
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that wasn't like
half in, half out.
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It was gonna be like
all, you know, all in.
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I think people have these
really ableist understandings
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of friendships,
and basically what that is
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is like we have these ideals
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of what a normal
friendship looks like.
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Like I go out to
the mall with my friend,
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I eat with my friend, these
are the things we do together,
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and this is how we
build a friendship.
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And I realized that like
a lot of those things
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I couldn't do with you.
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And so I thought to myself,
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okay, how do
I build a friendship
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and like a meaningful
connection with you
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in a way that I wasn't used to.
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And so I think it was in
this moment that I was like,
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okay I'm going to
be explicit about like,
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her being in my life and then
me being in her life as well.
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[Kime]: Was there ever a time
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when you just felt
like it was too much?
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[whispering in Spanish softly]
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["I'm OK" by Christina Aguilera]
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[heels clicking on floor]
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♪ Once upon a time
there was a girl ♪
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♪ In her early years
she had to learn ♪
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- So I knew in December
that I was a month away
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from being a quarter
of a century,
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and having gotten nothing done
in my life that I wanted to.
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And I always feel like
I'll feel better if,
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but all those ifs
are so far away.
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Like if I have my two year
degree, if I have a husband,
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if I have kids or
something like that.
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And I just don't know
what it feels like
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to be happy for long
enough to accomplish
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any of those things.
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And I didn't wanna be 25,
I didn't wanna see 25,
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because I knew I couldn't
do anything by 25.
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So I figured if
I couldn't, you know,
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give anything to the world
or make anybody proud
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or feel good about myself
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then there was no reason
for my existence.
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I felt like I should die,
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and I mean, whatever
energy I had when I woke up
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was spent figuring out how
I was gonna kill myself.
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♪ I'm okay
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[duo laughing]
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There you go.
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[Elena] Okay, so you're gonna
go behind the camera.
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Here you go.
[Kime]: Okay.
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[Elena]: So you can
hear the sound.
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I think
I'll be less loud.
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So I think I should be-
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[Kime]: Are you trying
to say I'm loud?
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[laughter]
- Exactly.
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That's exactly what I'm saying.
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How is the framing?
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[Kime]: Oh, it's good.
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- Okay.
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[audio fuzzes]
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[Elena] Read this when you doubt
life is worth living.
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Dear wondrous child of God
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and all your beautiful
manifestations,
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this morning I was
granted a divine vision
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that you are meant
to be on this earth
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for so many more years to come.
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Every time I make the
decision to stop you
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or call the ambulance,
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I always struggle with this
bout of guilt afterwards.
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Should I have
called or stopped you?
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The night on the stairs,
you were in so much pain.
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Who was I to tell you to keep
living with this deep pain?
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Was it selfish of me to
want to keep you living
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even though you didn't want to?
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Beautiful brown girl,
rise your head high
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knowing you are from
a line of ancestors
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who survived the
harshest of conditions,
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that their pain
lives on through you.
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But just as their
pain lives through you,
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so does their
survival and resilience.
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Your life is just beginning.
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Know that every part of
you is a gift from God.
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You're divine in
every sense of the word.
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Love always, Elena.
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August 13th, 2017.
[Kim giggles]
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[slow string music]
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- Kime,
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the night after I found out
that you passed away,
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I dream about you.
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I walk up a spiral staircase
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and I can see all
the way to the bottom.
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I ascend until I find your door.
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[inquisitive instrumentals]
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I open the door and see you
laying there in a casket.
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A young girl stands over
your casket and asks,
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"Can I give her
honeymoon kisses?
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Just like in the movies?"
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As I talk to you, your body
slowly starts to levitate.
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You want to get up and
fly away, but you can't.
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Up and down, up and down.
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You fought.
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You keep rising, but you
just couldn't get up.
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Life wouldn't let you get up.
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So let's just be here together
before the moment dissipates.
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Before your smile slowly
starts to fade away.
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[audio fuzzes]
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Hello, Kime, are you there?
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Can you talk?
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[audio fuzzes]
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[objects rustling]
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- I don't know how I
feel about this actually.
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[off camera]: What's going on?
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- Like, tear it apart, or like
carefully open it, you know?
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Like, I don't know.
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I just feel like I shouldn't
be making these decisions.
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[off camera]: Let me
get a pair of scissors.
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[Kime] I feel like they might
not really, you know,
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they're not used to dealing
with African American people
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with mental health issues.
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They, you know, I think they
deal more with white people
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who have those kinds of issues.
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So my outbursts or, you know,
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whenever I get angry or
hostile due to, you know,
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like a panic attack or a
suicide attempt or something,
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they just think that it's
like another Black person,
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you know, misbehaving.
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And I feel like
they almost feel like
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they have to fight me more
or be more, like, aggressive
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as opposed to trying
to be supportive
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and empathetic, I guess.
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But I'm really not like
an aggressive person.
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I just, if they were
to come in and treat me
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with, like, respect and instead
of getting angry at me,
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I think I would probably
not freak out as much.
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I had an incident where it was
right after I had been raped
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and they thought I had tried
to kill myself, but I didn't.
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I had changed my mind.
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And I just saw a whole
bunch of male officers
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and I asked them
not to touch me.
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I asked them to
get out of my room,
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and I was completely fine
with the female officer,
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but as soon as they entered my
room and they wouldn't leave,
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I just freaked out.
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And it was like
I had two male officers
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like throw me on the bed
and handcuff my hands,
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and that of course
freaked me out even more,
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so then I started kicking and
just like thrashing around
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which made it hard for
them to get control of me.
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And so they had me held
down on the same bed
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that I had been raped on.
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So it was just like, I mean,
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I couldn't really think
of any other way to react
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but to keep fighting them.
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So yeah.
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[bag crinkles]
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[Kime] What were you wearing?
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Did you say no?
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Were you drunk?
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We must take your
clothes for evidence.
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Without actually saying it,
they aren't convinced,
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yet they say it's not your fault
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The best we can do without
DNA is to take a statement,
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a controlled phone call,
in hopes he gives himself away.
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But when he refuses, because
the system makes no attempt
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at keeping their
tactics under the radar,
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he makes you sound like
the assailant by saying,
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"Stop acting like
this is not your fault.
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You wanted it.
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I'm not saying, hun,
that it wasn't rape,
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but there is nothing we can do.
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I hope you find some healing."
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[contemplative choral music]
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I get frustrated for
myself and other people,
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because I feel like
everybody's trying to fix me
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and I'm unfixable.
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It ends up becoming more
about them than it is you,
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because they wanna be the hero.
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And if you die, then
they're gonna feel guilty.
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And my depression is not about
anybody else, it's about me.
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And I would rather, instead
of trying to save me,
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perhaps try to, I don't know,
understand, or at least listen.
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Like sometimes all I need
to do is talk about it.
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Instead of sending
me to the hospital
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or trying to save me
or something,
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I wanna be able to
just get it out
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so that thought isn't
just in my head.
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I'm like stuck with
this, like, load.
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I'd rather share it
with somebody else.
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I don't actually
want them to save me.
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I just want them to listen.
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[instrumentals build tension]
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[Elena]: I remember the time
that you came to my house
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with blood dripping
down your arms.
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I was so angry and
thought to myself,
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"How can I make sure
that the blood dripping
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down your arms doesn't
stain my carpet?"
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I thought you did this to
spite me for moving away.
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In that moment,
all I felt was anger
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and frustration towards you.
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I'm ashamed to
admit these things.
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How I was more concerned
about the stain,
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as opposed to why the blood
was dripping down your arm.
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These are the things
I never told you though.
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I never shared with you how
it felt like it was too much.
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It was too much.
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How I would purposely go
months not talking to you,
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because I was scared I
wouldn't be able to show up
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for you in the way
that you needed.
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I was dealing with
my own depression.
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I was scared that you would
ask me not to call the cops
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and then you'd end up
dead the next day.
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I was scared that
I couldn't save you,
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and sometimes it was too
hard for me to face the fact
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that I wasn't supposed
to save you
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and that I couldn't save you.
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But in the end,
I always tried.
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And when you weren't here,
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I blamed myself
for not saving you.
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I thought had I just answered
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that one phone call that night,
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maybe, just maybe, I could
have been there for you.
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But I wasn't. [sighing]
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I didn't answer that phone call.
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[fuzzing audio builds]
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[phone rings]
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Hello?
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Kime, are you there?
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Can you talk?
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[contemplative choral music]
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[Kime]: Was there ever a time
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when you just felt
like it was too much?
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[Elena]: Too much in terms of?
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[Kime]: Like, with everything
that I was dealing with
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and just the idea that I could
possibly not be here anymore,
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and like, what that would mean
and how different that would be
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for you in your life and stuff.
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Was there ever a time when
you just wanted to give up
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or you felt like
it was just too much?
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[Elena]: There were moments wher
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I mean, there have been moments
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where it's been
really difficult because...
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You know, I love you as a person
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and I love you as a friend and
you're someone that I wanna,
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you contribute so
much to this world,
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and you are like such a
light in so many ways.
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And it's always hard when
you don't see yourself
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in those ways.
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And I wanna see you keep
living and thriving.
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I wanna respect your
autonomy as a person
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to decide whether or
not you want to live,
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'cause who am I to say,
"No, you should keep living
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because I think you
should keep living."
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Like, it's not my
life to live, you know?
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But I still, I wanna be
selfish a little bit
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and I do wanna see
you keep living
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and I wanna be able to like,
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when I do 10 years
from now, have my kids,
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you know I want
them to be like,
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"Oh, Auntie Kim is here!"
you know?
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Like, I want to see
you in my future.
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I want to be able to say like,
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"I know 10 years from now,
no matter where I'm at,
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like, Kim is going to
be a part of my life."
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[sentimental instrumentals]
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[Elena whispering in Spanish]
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[water splashing]
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[baby crying]
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[sentimental instrumentals cont]
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[chiming tones]
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[sentimental instrumentals cont]
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[ambient tones]