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[chickens clucking]

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[dramatic music playing]

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[birds tweeting]

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[Mariá] Papas, where are you?

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I know you're there.

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I know you're there.

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I'm coming for you.

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My baby.

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Since he was a baby,
his dad named him Papas.

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Oh my Papas, my Papas.

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I never got used to it.

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To say Jorge.

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He loves roosters.

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[crowing]

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He loves boxing.

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Sometimes, he's shy.

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He was a mama's boy.

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He was very spoiled.

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If I would be, like,
sitting down,

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he would just
come over here and say,

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"Chula, what are you
thinking on, my princess?

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I love you, Mom."

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He would be always hugging me.
Kissing me.

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[laughs]

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And for him, it was his chula.

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Or "my princess."

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When we got here
to Nuevo Laredo,

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I was, like, very scared

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about all the news,
What they used to say,

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that it was very dangerous,

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that there was
a lot of shootings.

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They would tell me,
"Don't you ever come over here."

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The reputation from here,
from Nuevo Laredo was awful.

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But I don't see it that way.

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I never saw shooting
or anything.

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It's okay.

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When I moved to Dallas,

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I was around
six or seven years old.

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My grandma talked to my mother
and told her that it was better

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for me to study over in Texas,
in the United States.

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I was little,
I couldn't even decide.

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I love Dallas.

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I grew up over there.

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My life is over there.

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I had my kids over there.

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But I used to love coming
to Mexico and see my mom

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and just go back.

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I used to come back and forth,
back and forth to Eagle Pass

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and Piedras Negras.

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We used to have
Benitez Auto Sales.

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We used to sell cars.

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And I used to work
with my sister-in-law.

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We do the cleaning
for the shows,

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like in convention centers
and Hyatt.

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Jorge, he was born
in Dallas, Texas.

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He's a US citizen.

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He was very close
with Vanessa

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and Daniel, my other son.

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The three of them,
they were just like,

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oh my God, terrible!

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Everybody had papers except me.

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Everybody was telling me,

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"You're like
a US citizen, girl.

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You need to get
your papers now."

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[reporter 1] Just before 9:00
eastern time this morning,

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a plane crashed into one

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of the twin towers
of the World Trade Center.

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[reporter 2] People have to come
to the United States...

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[Mariá]
When the towers went down,

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I was in Dallas
and I saw that in the news.

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[reporter 2] Pretty much the
same kind of operation there,

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at least temporarily,
to see that...

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They change everything.

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I was not gonna be able
to come and see my mom.

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In 2012,

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that's when we started living
in White Settlement.

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It's like a little town.

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It's in Fort Worth.

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And they have their own police.

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But that police, it makes you
feel like, very, very secure.

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[Daniel] I like to live there
because the neighbors always

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watching 24/7.

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And I can sleep
with the door open there.

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[chuckles] Yeah.

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[Trump] From this day forward,

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a new vision
will govern our land.

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From this day forward,

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it's going to be
only America first.

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America first.

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[applause]

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Every decision on trade,
on taxes,

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on immigration,
on foreign affairs,

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will be made to benefit American
workers and American families.

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[Mariá] When I heard
Donald Trump saying

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that he don't want
no Mexicans here,

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I was afraid that that would get
picked up by Immigration.

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I used to see INS
where we used to work.

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[dogs barking]

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I was afraid, you know.

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I talked to Daniel,
and you know what?

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I need to go back
to Mexico and fix my papers.

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I just wanted to make
the things right, you know?

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I was against it
at the beginning.

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I was against it
because of what people hear.

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The fights between the narcos
and the militaries

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and stuff like that.

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That's what scared me.

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I just didn't think

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it was a good idea
to go over there.

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And I was just like,
"I want to go back to Mexico."

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Like, for two years,
"I want to go back to Mexico."

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But I wanted
to go to Piedras Negras.

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I didn't want
to come over here to Laredo.

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My uncle was living here,

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so we started
talking to my uncle.

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He owns roosters,

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and Papas loves roosters.

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And he was here,
like, for 15 days.

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And he loved it here.

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Being with the roosters,
he goes,

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"I just want
to stay here in Laredo."

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Well, no, we don't know Laredo.

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I want to go back to Piedras.
Piedras Negras.

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He goes, "No, Mom,
I want to stay here.

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Nothing's going to
happen."

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[Guadalupe]
Tamaulipas is a border state.

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That was a forgotten border.

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And I call it
a forgotten border,

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because at some point,
nobody cared about Tamaulipas.

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There was not much development.
There was a lot of agriculture.

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And it has been historically
very conducive to smuggling.

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During the Prohibition,
it was smuggling of alcohol.

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Later on, the networks
that were formed that allowed

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the alcohol to be distributed
to the United States

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were used to smuggle
other things.

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And when the drug routes moved
from the Caribbean to Mexico,

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the networks that were formed
by Juan Guerra

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could be considered as
El Padrino

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were utilized
for trafficking drugs.

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Then Juan García Abrego,
his nephew, took over.

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He was the one who started
to be the big drug lord,

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the drug lord
of the Gulf Cartel,

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an organization that at some
point became one of the most

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important ones that smuggled
cocaine from the south

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to the United States of America.

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Juan García Abrego

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is going to be tracked down
by authorities

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on both sides of the border,

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and we're going to do
everything in our power

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to see that he is brought
to justice.

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In 1994, in Mexico,
there was this double transition

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towards democracy
and towards free markets.

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Globalization came,

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and Nuevo Laredo
became a very important point

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where a lot of merchandise
started to cross through here.

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It's like the capital of customs
in Latin America.

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[Guadalupe]
That's why Nuevo Laredo

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is also a plaza that many groups
would like to control.

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[reporter 1]
A federal court jury in Texas

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convicted Juan García Abrego

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on each of nearly two dozen
charges of trafficking drugs

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by the ton and money laundering
in the hundreds of millions.

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[reporter 2] The arrest
in January was a moral victory,

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but it has had no effect
on the drug trade.

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[Guadalupe]
Then Osiel Cárdenas Guillén

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became the leader
of the Gulf Cartel.

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He met some members
of the federal police

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that were doing
anti-narcotics operations.

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They were former members
of the Mexican Army

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that were trained
in counterinsurgency operations.

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Because of the conflict
that had taken place

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in southern part of Mexico,
the Zapatista movement.

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And this is how
the Zetas started.

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First working
for Osiel Cárdenas Guillén

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as the guard of the drug lord,

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and then were sent to protect
Nuevo Laredo by the Gulf Cartel.

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And Los Zetas changed the face

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of organized crime in Mexico.

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The Zetas were so violent.

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They were performing extortion,
kidnaping, beheadings

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and all sorts of violent acts

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that were unprecedented
in the life of Mexico.

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[reporter 3]
This stretch of highway

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that connects northern Mexico
with the US border

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was the scene of unspeakable
violence this weekend.

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Authorities say 43 men and six
women were found

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with their heads,
hands and feet cut off.

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[Guadalupe] They came up

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with a different model
of organized crime

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because of
the military knowledge,

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that they have and access
to high-caliber weapons,

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and this military strategy

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allowed them
to control territories.

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And when you control territory,
you control all the activities.

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[Phillip] These organizations
are very much about

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holding physical territory.

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They can extort when
they hold physical territory.

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They can control trafficking
and smuggling routes

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when they hold
physical territory.

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Organized crime.

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Eyewitnesses in Nuevo Laredo
basically impacts

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almost all institutional aspects
of Mexican society.

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I'm talking about
the government, civil society,

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private business, the media.

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[Guadalupe]
They started to extract rents

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from population
from different business owners,

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small and micro
and medium business owners.

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And to extract the rents,

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you know, you create this fear.

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You're going to protect
the people that you're

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extracting money from,
from your own.

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I mean,
this protection rackets

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that also involve
the local police.

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[Phillip]
The city of Nuevo Laredo

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has not had a functioning
city police department

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in more than 20 years.

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And why is that?
Because in the past,

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the city police department

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was always penetrated
by organized crime in such a way

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that it eventually became
an agent of organized crime.

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Officials finally decided
to do away with it,

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leaving a huge gap
in the security arrangement

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for a city
of 4 to 500,000 people.

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I used to hear shootings and,
"Oh, oh, oh, look, look."

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And I wasn't scared
because it was not in my house.

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[Mariá] I told Daniel,

00:14:56.790 --> 00:14:59.627
"Hey, we should start,
like, a little business."

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You know, we're not going
to sell cars here.

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So we decided real estate
here in Nuevo Laredo.

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[Mariá] And we started
remodeling the first house.

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We sold it.

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And then after that house,
we bought another one.

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[Daniel]

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[Mariá] Papas,

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in the morning,
he'll just stand up.

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Ask him for breakfast.

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Go in to work.

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When his dad wasn't there,
he would be like messaging,

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talking to his friends.

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And then they go,

00:15:41.168 --> 00:15:42.587
"Hey, I need to call Papa."

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Um, we fix this,
we fix that, we fix that.

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He knows he was going to be
in big trouble, you know?

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Monday through Friday
and Saturday would be working.

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Saturday, Walmart.

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Sunday, roosters.

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[man]

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[Daniel]

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[Mariá] Yes.

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[boy] I like it.

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-You like it?
-Yeah.

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I like this.

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Hmm, aguacate.

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Papas would
come from work and ask,

00:16:55.535 --> 00:16:57.995
"Hey, you know what I heard?
Somebody disappeared.

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You haven't hear the news?"

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No. I would never--

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Since I was little,
never like news.

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I don't like that.

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And we had a big couch,

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and he would lay down
and he'll put the channel.

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And he goes...

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"You see? They disappeared."

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What would you do
if something happens to me?"

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What in the world
are you talking about?

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You're a US citizen.

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You just have to show
your passport and ID

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and everything, nobody's gonna
do nothing to you.

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Why are you afraid?

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[Nicholas] Life is difficult
in the border areas

00:17:29.693 --> 00:17:33.655
for those who live
in those areas.

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Because of the constant influx
of leaders and groups

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battling for control
of that territory

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and expose the citizens
who live there to violence

00:17:44.375 --> 00:17:46.293
amongst the cartels,

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and sort of a Mafia-style
dominance

00:17:50.632 --> 00:17:53.050
that those cartels control.

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[reporter] In Nuevo Laredo,
across from Laredo, Texas,

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a reign of terror by renegade
soldiers turned cartel hit men.

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This small city, the murder
and kidnap capital of Mexico.

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[reporter] Hyper-violent
drug cartels dying to dominate

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the $140 billion drug trade.

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[Abisaí]

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[Guadalupe]
Because of these cartel wars,

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the violence magnified
and became exponential,

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the number of homicides.

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[reporter] Fifty-eight men
and 14 women were murdered

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by members of the Zetas gang.

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The bodies were discovered
after a shootout

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at a ranch in northern Mexico.

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[Abisaí]

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[whistles blowing]

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[overlapping chatter]

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[Guadalupe] In the year 2006,

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Calderón supposedly
won the election

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with a very small margin,

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and there are many people
in Mexico that believe

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there was a major
electoral fraud.

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So his legitimacy was very low.

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And during the transition,
he visited the United States.

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And that was fundamental
for him to believe

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that the situation in Mexico
was very delicate.

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There were some parts
in the country

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where things were going
out of control,

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particularly the state
of Tamaulipas

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and the state of Michoacán.

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Finally, in 2007,

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he dressed in a military suit

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and declared a war on drugs.

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And one of the priorities

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was to go after Los Zetas.

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[Calderón] Either you allow
all those criminals

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to take over the country,

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or you face the problem.

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And that's the most important
decision of my government.

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It's going to take us money.

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It's going to take time.

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And unfortunately,
it's going to take human lives.

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[Nicholas] Calderón,
he saw it as the most

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effective way to go against
the drug cartels

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by using the Mexican Marines,

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which is known as SEMAR,
our equivalent to the Navy,

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and the Mexican Army,

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which is known as SEDENA.

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And I think Calderón felt
that the military

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had more integrity
than local, state,

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or even federal police forces.

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[announcer]
Secretaría de Marina.

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Gobierno de la República .

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The people were asking
for the military,

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and they accepted the military,
to a very large extent,

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because they see it
as the only force

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that is going to save them.

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[Phillip]
Mexico was so desperate

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that by the use of the Army

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and the Marines
in law enforcement roles,

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they do have
a natural protection

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against being penetrated
by the cartels,

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and the ability to threaten them
was much less.

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So as an institution,
they are perhaps a last resort,

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but they are capable to resist

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the cartel's usual tactics.

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[Guadalupe] The reality
is that when the military

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arrived to Tamaulipas,

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you have armed groups

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fighting for the control
of territories among themselves.

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[reporter 1] Authorities here
say two powerful drug cartels,

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the Gulf and La Familia,

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have made a pact
to oust the Zetas.

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[Guadalupe]
And then you have a real army.

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And that causes what I call
the modern civil war.

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[reporter 2]

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[reporter 3] Mexico is a country
deep in crisis.

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The drug war
has turned its cities

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into some of the most
dangerous on Earth.

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[reporter 4] Calderón insists
the growing violence

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is a sign cartels are feeling
his government's heat.

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[reporter 5] The casualties
in Mexico's drug war

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have exceeded 40,000 now
in five years.

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That is six times
the number of Americans

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lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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[dogs barking]

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[Mariá] Melissa used
to be his girlfriend.

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One time,
we had Melissa's birthday.

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Daniel, my husband, told Papas,

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"Go check the house
in Belisario.

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Go check if it's locked up
and everything."

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He goes, "Yeah."

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And so then I was right there.

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And they stopped him
and they hold him.

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They slap him and they
punch him in his tummy.

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He goes, "Oh." Just bend down.

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And he goes,
"Why did you touch me?

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I'm not from here.
I'm a US citizen, you know."

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I didn't know
military could do that.

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[Bush] Americans are concerned
about the battle

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that's taking place in Mexico,

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and I want our fellow citizens
to understand

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that this man understands
the responsibilities

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of the government
to provide security.

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That he will not allow
his country

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or parts of his country to be
taken over by narco traffickers.

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[Maureen] The Mérida Initiative
was a real big step

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in US-Mexico cooperation

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because prior to that,

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there'd been
a lot more reluctance

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of the Mexican government
in particular,

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to have a high level
of security cooperation.

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That really represented
this huge shift

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in how security forces and law
enforcement forces interacted.

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And there's a lot more
information sharing,

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intelligence sharing.

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I think in the first few years
of the aid package,

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2008 to 2011,
most of the assistance

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was for hardware and equipment.

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And that's really
what Mexico wanted.

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They wanted helicopter,
surveillance planes,

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non-intrusive
inspection equipment.

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They wanted toys from
the United States.

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And training.
Technical training.

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How do you administer
all this new equipment?

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And the other was some
tactical training,

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some combat.

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[gunfire]

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Intelligence sharing.
Surveillance

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They'd invited Mexico's marines,
SEMAR,

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to participate
in joint training sessions.

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So a lot of working on
how do you strengthen

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Mexico's professional capacity

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within the armed forces
and the police,

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and also as a way
for the agencies that never had

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worked together at that level,
or that had always been

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that reluctance to really try
to build better relationships.

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[Nicholas] Institutionally,
SEDENA and the DEA

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have not had a symbiotic
institutional relationship.

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More typically, the DEA works
closer with the Navy, SEMAR.

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When that relationship
was strengthened

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and became successful,

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it was the right time,
the right place,

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the right people
with a common directive.

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[Raúl]

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Generally, when you talk about

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the high-level captures
of kingpins

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over the last couple of decades
in the war on drugs,

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you're talking about the Navy.

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Those captures
that get front-page news,

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that get the full celebration
from the president right down.

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[man]

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[Nicholas] Ortega Siu
was the admiral in charge.

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His unit participated
in very successful operations

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with the DEA.

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[Raúl]

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[Nicholas] So Ortega Siu,
who was in charge

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of the operation that led
to the capture

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and arrest of Chapo Guzmán,

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his relationship
with US law enforcement

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was very strong
and very successful.

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I took Ortega Siu and his unit
up to DEA headquarters

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in New York
on two occasions at least.

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He has a very strong
personality,

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and he led from the front.

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And I would imagine
that that's why

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he's so respected by his men.

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[reporter]

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[Abisaí]

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[Raymundo]

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[Mariá sighs]

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[Mariá] My awful day.

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April 4th.

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Papas went to work,

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and I told him,
"Hey, they already ate?"

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He goes, "Yeah, we already ate."

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[Flaco]

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And then I told him.
"No. Go leave Flaco.

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I don't want nobody
drinking here."

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[Flaco]

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[Mariá]
And leave Flaco, come back.

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He goes,
"I'm going to take a shower.

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You never know
what's going to happen."

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"What?" Like, "What?"

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"Oh, you know, watching a chula,

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princess there, like you."

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Oh, yeah. Whatever.

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We started laughing, joking.

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So I saw his eyes watery.

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And then I kept looking at him,
and I told him,

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"You better answer my calls,
Papas.

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You never answer."

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And I told him,

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"You better come home."

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[Daniel]

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Papas was driving.

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[speaking Spanish] ...was inside
when they got stopped.

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All I know, my neighbor told me

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she saw that guys
were grabbing him

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from the van he was driving.

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Hitting him.

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They didn't even ask
for his papers or anything,

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or who was he?

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They just took him.

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[Daniel]

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He got to see the plate.

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51-1445.

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He called my uncle,
and then my uncle called me.

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"Hey, are you okay?"

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But when he said,
"Are you okay?"

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I felt, like, Papas's image.

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Like this.

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Papas, where are you?

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My baby.

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Then my heart was going like...

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And I started calling Papas.
"Hey, where are you?

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Hey, hey!"

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Click, click.

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They just hang up my calls.

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[Daniel]

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I go, "What happened?"

00:33:06.713 --> 00:33:08.965
He goes,
"Marina. Marina took our kid."

00:33:08.965 --> 00:33:10.050
I go, "Why? What happened?

00:33:10.050 --> 00:33:12.302
Who's that? Who's Marina?

00:33:12.302 --> 00:33:13.720
What can they do to you?

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He goes, "I don't know.
Just come over here."

00:33:17.015 --> 00:33:18.392
My baby.

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[Flaco]

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[Mariá]
So we got to the consulate.

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I put the report there.

00:34:15.448 --> 00:34:19.285
I told the guy my son
was taken by the Marina.

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He goes,
"No, what was he doing?"

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He wasn't doing nothing.

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I was like, real mad.

00:34:25.292 --> 00:34:27.418
"You better call those..."

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If there were
credible accusations

00:34:30.297 --> 00:34:33.300
that Mexican authorities were
carrying out disappearances,

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we would have had that on eye
on our radar for sure.

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And if they had involved
American citizens,

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it would have been our first--
Our first order of business.

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But in the confusion
that is Nuevo Laredo,

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we were just as likely
to have thought

00:34:47.105 --> 00:34:51.818
that the cartel was behind
disappearing these people.

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I was real mad.
I was real pissed.

00:34:53.528 --> 00:34:58.158
I talked to some agents
from the FBI in San Antonio,

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and that he was going to tell
somebody in Laredo, Texas,

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to speak with me
at the bridge at the border.

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And I go, "Okay, that's all
you have to say?"

00:35:08.210 --> 00:35:10.045
He goes, "Yes."

00:35:10.503 --> 00:35:13.673
All right. Just hang up.
Let's go look for my son.

00:35:13.673 --> 00:35:15.967
[dramatic music playing]

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So we stop at some Oxxos,

00:35:24.225 --> 00:35:26.143
and there's some Halcones there.

00:35:26.603 --> 00:35:30.315
The Halcones here in
Nuevo Laredo are the lookouts.

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And I ask them, "Mijo..."

00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:35.820
And he goes,
"Madre, what happened?"

00:35:35.820 --> 00:35:37.738
"Have you seen
this license plate?"

00:35:37.738 --> 00:35:40.658
All I saw is the suburban

00:35:40.658 --> 00:35:43.537
and the little van
that has antennas on top.

00:35:47.873 --> 00:35:49.877
[Flaco]

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[Mariá] We stopped there.

00:36:15.235 --> 00:36:16.903
And then I told them.

00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.822
"Do you have
this kid right here?

00:36:19.822 --> 00:36:21.825
He's a US citizen, you know."

00:36:21.825 --> 00:36:26.037
He's not a sicario.
He's not a narcon."

00:36:26.037 --> 00:36:28.248
"I don't know what
you're talking about, lady.

00:36:28.248 --> 00:36:29.665
Get the fuck away from here."

00:36:46.265 --> 00:36:47.933
And he started cussing Daniel.

00:37:04.783 --> 00:37:06.452
[Mariá]
I wanted to go.

00:37:06.452 --> 00:37:09.247
They didn't let me because
that's when they get that rifle.

00:37:16.462 --> 00:37:17.797
From here.

00:37:17.797 --> 00:37:19.215
"Get away from here."

00:37:22.843 --> 00:37:25.013
We look for him all over.

00:37:26.472 --> 00:37:29.600
We came back home.
It was around 4:00.

00:37:31.937 --> 00:37:33.647
"You know what, viejo?

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I'm going to look his GPS."

00:37:37.442 --> 00:37:39.568
He had a little bit of signal.

00:37:39.987 --> 00:37:42.322
And the signal
was in the Laguito.

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And they said with all his face
that my son wasn't even there.

00:37:51.580 --> 00:37:53.248
They were lying.

00:37:53.248 --> 00:37:54.208
Why?

00:37:57.462 --> 00:38:00.923
Next day, I was at the fiscalía.

00:38:00.923 --> 00:38:03.843
The attorney general
here in Nuevo Laredo.

00:38:03.843 --> 00:38:07.555
And put a complaint there
for my son missing.

00:38:07.972 --> 00:38:10.975
And they were like,
"Ha-ha, la Marina.

00:38:11.350 --> 00:38:14.020
There's more people
coming over here and say,

00:38:14.020 --> 00:38:16.022
'the Marina took their kids.'

00:38:16.022 --> 00:38:17.648
I wonder what they were doing."

00:38:17.648 --> 00:38:20.027
Hey, my son
wasn't doing nothing.

00:38:21.068 --> 00:38:23.112
I don't care
what you're thinking.

00:38:23.530 --> 00:38:25.032
I'm here for another thing.

00:38:26.198 --> 00:38:27.950
[Raymundo]

00:39:06.740 --> 00:39:09.242
[Mariá] That's when
my husband met Raymundo.

00:39:10.535 --> 00:39:12.745
He came inside and he goes,

00:39:12.745 --> 00:39:14.663
"There's another people
out there.

00:39:14.997 --> 00:39:17.542
Their son is missing.
He's underage."

00:39:17.792 --> 00:39:19.835
And they said, "It's la Marina."

00:39:19.835 --> 00:39:22.380
My reaction was like,
"Who is the Marina?"

00:39:23.423 --> 00:39:25.217
Why? I mean, who are they?

00:39:27.427 --> 00:39:28.678
"The biggest law,"

00:39:28.678 --> 00:39:30.847
the guy from
the attorney law said.

00:39:31.263 --> 00:39:33.767
"Oh, and why
are they doing that?"

00:39:33.767 --> 00:39:35.268
"Malandros."

00:39:35.268 --> 00:39:36.728
"Excuse me?

00:39:37.562 --> 00:39:39.563
Are you sure about that?

00:39:39.938 --> 00:39:43.067
Are you accusing my son
of malandro, a bad guy?"

00:39:44.443 --> 00:39:46.028
"Well, I don't know what he do.

00:39:46.445 --> 00:39:48.907
There's a lot of people
complaining about that."

00:39:49.865 --> 00:39:51.283
That's all their response.

00:40:58.100 --> 00:41:01.855
When I told what happened
to fiscalía,

00:41:01.855 --> 00:41:04.190
I thought it was like
ten minutes.

00:41:04.190 --> 00:41:07.735
But they were actually
32 minutes inside my house.

00:41:07.735 --> 00:41:09.903
[reporter 1]

00:41:23.710 --> 00:41:26.212
[Jessica] People from
Nuevo Laredo were posting stuff

00:41:26.212 --> 00:41:29.465
about the incident when
the Marines got ambushed.

00:41:29.465 --> 00:41:30.550
[man]

00:41:36.180 --> 00:41:38.057
I remember getting
a text message

00:41:38.057 --> 00:41:41.602
from one of my closest friends
from here, from Laredo.

00:41:41.602 --> 00:41:44.272
"Hey, just be careful.
So this and this happened."

00:41:45.398 --> 00:41:47.900
[reporter 2]

00:41:51.737 --> 00:41:53.405
[artillery explosions]

00:41:54.907 --> 00:41:57.577
So I was like, don't worry,
we're in my house.

00:41:57.577 --> 00:42:00.455
I'm recovering from a surgery,
so we're not going out.

00:42:03.165 --> 00:42:05.377
That night
when they lost the captain,

00:42:05.377 --> 00:42:09.130
they killed a mother
and I think two little girls.

00:42:09.130 --> 00:42:11.548
Only the father survived.

00:42:11.548 --> 00:42:13.133
[reporter 2]

00:42:19.598 --> 00:42:20.975
[man]

00:42:22.560 --> 00:42:24.270
[reporter 2]

00:42:32.278 --> 00:42:33.947
[man]

00:42:34.488 --> 00:42:36.407
[Jessica]
They were looking for the people

00:42:36.407 --> 00:42:39.910
that actually ambush
their people, the Marines.

00:42:45.792 --> 00:42:49.462
That night,
I heard noises outside.

00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:51.630
Next thing you know,
there was like,

00:42:51.630 --> 00:42:53.842
six Marines inside my house.

00:42:53.842 --> 00:42:55.510
They actually asked for IDs.

00:42:55.510 --> 00:42:58.178
And my husband,
he was, like, cooperating.

00:42:58.178 --> 00:43:00.932
Like, he was like,
"Oh, here, this is my ID."

00:43:00.932 --> 00:43:02.975
And he actually gave them
the business card.

00:43:02.975 --> 00:43:06.270
Like, "Oh, this is my shop.
This is what I do."

00:43:06.270 --> 00:43:11.192
I remember seeing the little red
light on his forehead,

00:43:11.192 --> 00:43:13.443
and then that's when I realized

00:43:13.443 --> 00:43:15.447
that they were aiming
at his head.

00:43:15.822 --> 00:43:18.323
Till that minute, I thought
they were going to kill me,

00:43:18.323 --> 00:43:21.493
because by that time, my husband
was already outside the room.

00:43:21.493 --> 00:43:24.205
They took him out and they
started, like, hitting him

00:43:24.205 --> 00:43:27.333
because I could hear him like...

00:43:27.333 --> 00:43:29.418
Like, "Just don't touch her."

00:43:33.965 --> 00:43:35.967
And then I heard them say,

00:43:35.967 --> 00:43:37.843
"We're at the wrong house."

00:43:38.093 --> 00:43:40.305
They said it twice
to each other.

00:43:40.305 --> 00:43:42.723
And I was like, in my mind,
I was like,

00:43:42.723 --> 00:43:46.352
okay, so they're gonna realize
they made a mistake.

00:43:46.352 --> 00:43:49.522
It, like, always happens
in Mexico.

00:43:49.522 --> 00:43:51.482
My bad. My apologies.

00:43:51.732 --> 00:43:55.612
And everything was gonna be
just the broken door.

00:43:56.988 --> 00:43:58.948
But no, they took my husband.

00:44:00.992 --> 00:44:03.535
One of the neighbors
came up to me

00:44:03.535 --> 00:44:05.830
and just gave me
the recording, the USB.

00:44:05.830 --> 00:44:07.207
And he was like, "Here."

00:44:10.710 --> 00:44:14.630
They broke into three houses
on my street that night.

00:44:16.048 --> 00:44:17.967
The first house they broke into,

00:44:17.967 --> 00:44:20.345
it was one
of my husband's friends.

00:44:20.345 --> 00:44:23.305
They broke his arm, I think.

00:44:24.640 --> 00:44:27.893
And then they broke
to the other neighbor's house.

00:44:28.227 --> 00:44:30.228
They were like,
getting ready to leave.

00:44:30.647 --> 00:44:33.692
But you can see on the video
where they gave the order

00:44:33.692 --> 00:44:37.070
to to check my house, too.

00:44:37.070 --> 00:44:41.115
And then you can see
they took out my husband.

00:44:56.255 --> 00:44:59.175
I went looking for my husband
in the morning.

00:45:02.887 --> 00:45:04.847
They took my statement

00:45:05.263 --> 00:45:08.558
and they literally just threw it
to the side when I finished.

00:45:08.558 --> 00:45:12.105
They were like, "Oh, this is
number 14 on missing."

00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.692
And I was like,
they're not gonna do anything.

00:45:17.443 --> 00:45:19.445
[Raymundo]

00:46:04.490 --> 00:46:06.533
[Raymundo]

00:46:21.507 --> 00:46:23.425
[Raymundo]

00:46:32.643 --> 00:46:34.312
[Raymundo]

00:46:47.700 --> 00:46:49.702
[Raymundo]

00:47:39.252 --> 00:47:41.420
[reporter]

00:48:06.528 --> 00:48:07.780
[Abisaí]

00:49:05.963 --> 00:49:07.965
[woman]

00:51:04.248 --> 00:51:05.917
[Abisaí]

00:51:32.275 --> 00:51:34.528
[camera shutters clicking]

00:51:39.492 --> 00:51:41.452
[reporter]

00:51:42.160 --> 00:51:43.495
[woman]

00:51:43.495 --> 00:51:44.913
[reporter]

00:51:51.378 --> 00:51:53.005
[Abisaí]

00:52:12.525 --> 00:52:14.735
[Raymundo]

00:52:39.302 --> 00:52:40.802
[Mariá]

00:53:06.537 --> 00:53:08.497
[somber music playing]

00:53:33.563 --> 00:53:35.773
[woman]

00:53:52.457 --> 00:53:56.878
When you have the Navy operating
in an area such as Tamaulipas

00:53:56.878 --> 00:53:59.882
that is known
for its enormous impunity,

00:53:59.882 --> 00:54:02.300
and it's one of the states
where disappearances

00:54:02.300 --> 00:54:03.968
are most endemic.

00:54:03.968 --> 00:54:06.138
For us, it was clear
that we had to respond.

00:54:06.138 --> 00:54:09.642
So we decided
to go to Nuevo Laredo.

00:54:22.968 --> 00:54:24.720
[Raymundo]

00:56:06.592 --> 00:56:08.010
State authorities in Mexico

00:56:08.010 --> 00:56:10.095
are never going to like
the investigations

00:56:10.095 --> 00:56:12.430
of Amnesty International
or the United Nations.

00:56:12.430 --> 00:56:15.183
In fact, that was their response
when we were on the ground

00:56:15.183 --> 00:56:17.227
in Nuevo Laredo
and we were speaking with them,

00:56:17.227 --> 00:56:19.605
and they were very annoyed
that we were there.

00:56:19.605 --> 00:56:21.232
So we spoke
to the state prosecutors,

00:56:21.232 --> 00:56:24.485
and we had an understanding
of all the evidence they had,

00:56:24.485 --> 00:56:26.153
and all the holes
they had as well,

00:56:26.153 --> 00:56:29.448
and all the things
they did not want to say.

00:56:29.448 --> 00:56:32.283
We also went on the ground
and went to the sites

00:56:32.283 --> 00:56:33.618
of the disappearances.

00:56:34.160 --> 00:56:36.622
We talked to the people
at the gas stations

00:56:36.622 --> 00:56:38.623
where these
disappearances occurred.

00:56:39.040 --> 00:56:42.460
We talked to families.
We went to the courthouses.

00:56:42.460 --> 00:56:44.755
We went to forensic locations.

00:56:44.755 --> 00:56:46.798
We went to funeral homes.

00:56:48.633 --> 00:56:50.468
We looked at criminal documents.

00:56:50.468 --> 00:56:53.472
So at the end of the day,
an enforced disappearance

00:56:53.472 --> 00:56:56.767
is one of those crimes where
you can say, well,

00:56:56.767 --> 00:56:59.352
literally see no evil,
hear no evil.

00:56:59.352 --> 00:57:01.647
I mean, there's--
You know, what's going on--

00:57:01.647 --> 00:57:04.023
You know, we didn't do it.

00:57:04.023 --> 00:57:06.235
Unfortunately
for the perpetrators,

00:57:06.235 --> 00:57:08.987
there is always a trace
of evidence.

00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:12.908
And the pain of the victims
and the families

00:57:12.908 --> 00:57:14.952
will have the perseverance
to ensure

00:57:14.952 --> 00:57:17.495
that the evidence
and the truth comes to light.

00:57:19.205 --> 00:57:21.750
When I realized
that if I wanted...

00:57:22.625 --> 00:57:24.628
for my husband

00:57:24.628 --> 00:57:25.962
to come back

00:57:25.962 --> 00:57:28.173
or for people to know
what happened,

00:57:28.173 --> 00:57:30.925
I needed to do
something about it.

00:57:30.925 --> 00:57:34.053
I went to a manifestation.

00:57:34.428 --> 00:57:39.183
It was just a couple of us,
like six and Raymundo.

00:57:39.183 --> 00:57:41.060
[Raymundo]

00:57:50.862 --> 00:57:53.032
[Jessica] I remember
I was scared to death.

00:57:53.032 --> 00:57:54.783
I went by myself.

00:57:55.367 --> 00:57:58.078
Like, in my mind,
I kept thinking, like,

00:57:58.078 --> 00:58:00.622
if something happens
it's just gonna be me.

00:58:00.622 --> 00:58:02.457
[in Spanish]

00:58:20.267 --> 00:58:22.060
[Raúl]

00:58:41.413 --> 00:58:43.457
[Raymundo]

00:58:50.047 --> 00:58:52.340
[Mariá]
I was meeting the other ladies.

00:58:52.340 --> 00:58:55.843
My son is missing.
My husband is missing.

00:59:16.365 --> 00:59:18.450
Oh, damn.

00:59:18.450 --> 00:59:20.868
There's a lot
of people disappearing.

00:59:21.995 --> 00:59:24.288
When we were on our own,

00:59:24.288 --> 00:59:28.627
I thought that they
were going to hear us.

00:59:28.627 --> 00:59:31.463
No, you can't do this.

00:59:31.463 --> 00:59:33.132
We can't do that.

00:59:35.133 --> 00:59:37.970
When I got with the group
with Raymundo, he goes,

00:59:37.970 --> 00:59:39.428
"Who said no?"

00:59:40.847 --> 00:59:42.975
Attorney generals
over in Mexico.

00:59:43.392 --> 00:59:47.145
"You are the victim.
It's your word against them."

00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:59.617
"So they do what you are
saying they're going to do."

01:00:01.743 --> 01:00:03.162
He was always there.

01:00:33.567 --> 01:00:37.445
[Mariá] The Marina
from Mexico and United States,

01:00:37.445 --> 01:00:41.073
I see on the news
they work together.

01:00:42.033 --> 01:00:43.618
Can they do anything?

01:00:43.618 --> 01:00:46.413
If someone had come to me
with a credible case, which is--

01:00:46.413 --> 01:00:49.207
Imagine a scenario
that's really unrealistic,

01:00:49.207 --> 01:00:52.293
that here are the facts
that show that SEMAR is involved

01:00:53.545 --> 01:00:54.755
in disappearances,

01:00:54.755 --> 01:00:56.255
we would have looked at it.

01:00:56.590 --> 01:01:00.093
But we were not going to jump
over to the conclusion that...

01:01:00.635 --> 01:01:04.055
these demonstrators
were anything different

01:01:04.055 --> 01:01:06.642
than the other
publicity campaigns

01:01:06.642 --> 01:01:09.895
that the criminal organization
carried out

01:01:09.895 --> 01:01:12.147
to discredit the military.

01:01:12.397 --> 01:01:15.067
I don't know nothing about law,

01:01:15.067 --> 01:01:16.735
but probably...

01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:21.155
United States government
from over there could ask,

01:01:21.155 --> 01:01:23.742
"Hey, what happened
to the US citizen

01:01:23.742 --> 01:01:25.702
you took from Nuevo Laredo?

01:01:25.702 --> 01:01:27.037
Why?

01:01:29.122 --> 01:01:33.377
Was he with guns, drugs or what?

01:01:33.752 --> 01:01:36.045
What's the reason? He's a minor.

01:01:36.337 --> 01:01:38.673
He's a US citizen.
Where is he at?"

01:01:39.382 --> 01:01:40.633
They didn't do nothing.

01:01:40.633 --> 01:01:42.927
If the American citizen

01:01:42.927 --> 01:01:44.428
had been arrested,

01:01:44.428 --> 01:01:46.222
then we would have
a record of it.

01:01:46.222 --> 01:01:48.267
We could deal
with the prison officials.

01:01:48.267 --> 01:01:50.477
We could go visit
that person and so forth.

01:01:50.477 --> 01:01:53.563
If the American citizen
had been disappeared

01:01:53.563 --> 01:01:56.692
or was simply missing,
whatever the case might be,

01:01:56.692 --> 01:02:00.820
we knew as US diplomatic
officials in Nuevo Laredo

01:02:00.820 --> 01:02:03.573
that there were--
There were very limited options

01:02:03.573 --> 01:02:07.410
that the city had in order
to investigate that case.

01:02:07.410 --> 01:02:09.453
It was clearly
in the news, right?

01:02:09.453 --> 01:02:12.665
And so if you're looking at
the overall dynamics in Mexico,

01:02:12.665 --> 01:02:14.042
how would you not know?

01:02:14.292 --> 01:02:16.545
The UN High Commissioner
for Human Rights Office

01:02:16.545 --> 01:02:19.130
in Mexico issued
a report showing that

01:02:19.130 --> 01:02:22.258
federal security forces
were involved.

01:02:22.675 --> 01:02:24.887
You would think it would
really spark more interest

01:02:24.887 --> 01:02:27.888
from the United States
of knowing what was going on.

01:02:27.888 --> 01:02:30.225
You would think at a minimum,
there should be a little bit

01:02:30.225 --> 01:02:33.603
more attention when you do
have US citizens as victims.

01:02:33.603 --> 01:02:36.397
And it doesn't seem like
that is necessarily the case.

01:03:03.007 --> 01:03:04.843
[reporter]

01:03:15.020 --> 01:03:16.688
[woman]

01:04:31.805 --> 01:04:33.765
[Abisaí]

01:04:47.862 --> 01:04:49.738
[Abisaí]

01:04:59.958 --> 01:05:01.458
[soldier]

01:05:01.918 --> 01:05:03.795
[woman]

01:05:15.723 --> 01:05:17.350
[man]

01:05:33.783 --> 01:05:34.742
[man] Hey.

01:05:53.595 --> 01:05:55.055
[man]

01:05:55.055 --> 01:05:56.597
[reporter]

01:06:09.860 --> 01:06:11.528
[crying]

01:06:51.235 --> 01:06:52.903
[crying]

01:08:24.995 --> 01:08:26.705
[indistinct chatter]

01:08:33.087 --> 01:08:34.922
[Abisaí]

01:09:37.610 --> 01:09:39.028
[Phillip] Why would
a professional

01:09:39.028 --> 01:09:41.780
military organization
resort to tactics like that?

01:09:41.780 --> 01:09:43.742
It is because they are dealing

01:09:43.742 --> 01:09:45.952
with an intense guerrilla war,

01:09:45.952 --> 01:09:48.078
in which any tactic
that can be used

01:09:48.078 --> 01:09:49.955
against your opponent
is fair game.

01:09:55.378 --> 01:09:59.382
No one should say it is
the best option for dealing

01:09:59.382 --> 01:10:01.633
with Mexico's situation,
but what it is is basically

01:10:01.633 --> 01:10:03.260
the only option they have.

01:10:03.762 --> 01:10:05.680
[Guadalupe]
The beginning of this conflict

01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:07.182
that right now it's a snowball,

01:10:07.182 --> 01:10:11.518
have a lot to do with
the utilization of the military

01:10:11.518 --> 01:10:13.938
in unconventional strategies,

01:10:13.938 --> 01:10:16.732
where forces that are
trained to kill,

01:10:16.732 --> 01:10:19.277
that are trained
to participate in wars,

01:10:19.277 --> 01:10:22.780
that receive also the training
of the United States

01:10:22.780 --> 01:10:25.783
and are participating
in anti-narcotics operation

01:10:25.783 --> 01:10:28.285
with the approval
of the United States of America

01:10:28.285 --> 01:10:29.953
under the Mérida Initiative,

01:10:29.953 --> 01:10:32.707
it's good to solve the problem.

01:10:33.123 --> 01:10:36.668
Angola has for over two decades
denounced the support

01:10:36.668 --> 01:10:39.797
that the US has provided
to Mexicans armed forces

01:10:39.797 --> 01:10:43.760
in public security tasks
or their role in organized crime

01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:45.928
because of
the Mexican Armed Forces

01:10:45.928 --> 01:10:49.265
historic record of human rights
violations in the country

01:10:49.265 --> 01:10:51.350
that even dates back
to Mexico's Dirty War.

01:10:51.350 --> 01:10:54.520
So combating insurgencies
in the 1970s and '80s.

01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:57.732
[reporter 1] But this military
training camp is for officers

01:10:57.732 --> 01:10:59.817
from all over Latin America.

01:10:59.817 --> 01:11:02.612
The goal: to suppress
guerrilla subversion

01:11:02.612 --> 01:11:03.988
with greater efficiency.

01:11:03.988 --> 01:11:05.698
[reporter 2] WHINSEC was known

01:11:05.698 --> 01:11:07.825
as the school of the Americas,

01:11:07.825 --> 01:11:10.828
and its focus was training
Latin American allies

01:11:10.828 --> 01:11:12.497
to beat back
the threat of communism,

01:11:12.497 --> 01:11:15.040
perceived or otherwise.

01:11:15.040 --> 01:11:17.085
[Guadalupe]
The Cold War was a time when

01:11:17.085 --> 01:11:19.962
there was a lot of cooperation
and there was a lot of training

01:11:19.962 --> 01:11:24.050
by the United States
Armed Forces in Latin America.

01:11:24.050 --> 01:11:25.760
[officer]
So that when they graduate,

01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:27.845
they will be able
to take over their position

01:11:27.845 --> 01:11:32.017
as a platoon leader and be able
to control operations

01:11:32.017 --> 01:11:34.977
in the type environment that
they're faced with right now.

01:11:34.977 --> 01:11:36.270
[Raúl]

01:11:48.532 --> 01:11:50.368
[applause]

01:11:50.702 --> 01:11:52.703
[reporter 2]
The idea behind WHISEC

01:11:52.703 --> 01:11:54.872
is that graduates
will use their training

01:11:54.872 --> 01:11:57.083
to assist the US in taking on

01:11:57.083 --> 01:11:59.877
some of the hemisphere's
greatest threats,

01:11:59.877 --> 01:12:03.505
everything from terrorism
to natural disasters

01:12:03.505 --> 01:12:05.383
to the war on drugs.

01:12:12.848 --> 01:12:15.225
[Guadalupe] They received
this special training

01:12:15.225 --> 01:12:16.518
from the US Army

01:12:16.518 --> 01:12:18.730
that we need to know more about,

01:12:18.730 --> 01:12:20.898
because their participation

01:12:20.898 --> 01:12:22.775
in violent and brutal events

01:12:22.775 --> 01:12:25.862
seems to have something to do
with that training.

01:12:25.862 --> 01:12:28.948
Strategies that seem
to have the agreement

01:12:28.948 --> 01:12:31.533
of the United States government.

01:12:31.533 --> 01:12:33.077
[artillery fire]

01:12:34.578 --> 01:12:36.247
And instead
of solving the problem,

01:12:36.247 --> 01:12:39.417
we started seeing
an exponential increase

01:12:39.417 --> 01:12:40.877
in the level of homicides.

01:12:42.087 --> 01:12:43.420
[soldier]

01:12:47.717 --> 01:12:49.052
[Charles] The office I headed,

01:12:49.052 --> 01:12:50.803
the Office of Security
and Human Rights

01:12:50.803 --> 01:12:52.263
had many duties.

01:12:52.263 --> 01:12:53.723
One of those duties

01:12:53.723 --> 01:12:56.392
was implementing laws

01:12:56.392 --> 01:12:58.770
that we call the Leahy Laws.

01:12:58.770 --> 01:13:00.938
And the Leahy Laws prohibit

01:13:00.938 --> 01:13:03.775
United States
security assistance,

01:13:03.775 --> 01:13:05.443
foreign security force units,

01:13:05.443 --> 01:13:08.780
that have committed gross
violations of human rights.

01:13:16.453 --> 01:13:19.957
[Charles] We base that
on what we know at the moment

01:13:19.957 --> 01:13:22.000
that we make the decision.

01:13:24.962 --> 01:13:27.005
There are very high incentives

01:13:27.005 --> 01:13:29.050
for units to cover up

01:13:29.050 --> 01:13:31.468
gross violations
of human rights.

01:13:35.055 --> 01:13:38.350
And it's very hard
to find credible information.

01:13:38.350 --> 01:13:40.437
Victims are hard to find.

01:13:40.437 --> 01:13:41.603
Victims are scared.

01:13:41.603 --> 01:13:43.188
[Raymundo]

01:13:58.997 --> 01:14:01.998
The credibility of the source
of information

01:14:01.998 --> 01:14:05.878
or the sources is not
just important, it is key.

01:14:05.878 --> 01:14:08.882
And when it's a local source,

01:14:08.882 --> 01:14:12.760
we rely on the judgment

01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:14.178
and the opinions

01:14:14.178 --> 01:14:17.723
of our embassy
and consulate colleagues

01:14:17.723 --> 01:14:20.392
to tell us,
is this a credible person?

01:14:20.392 --> 01:14:23.478
Is this a credible news source?
Is this a credible NGO?

01:14:23.478 --> 01:14:26.940
There were no allegations
that SEMAR was disappearing

01:14:26.940 --> 01:14:29.693
anybody in Nuevo Laredo
in my time.

01:14:29.693 --> 01:14:31.362
No serious allegations of this.

01:14:31.362 --> 01:14:34.032
And so I had
no information about that.

01:14:34.032 --> 01:14:36.658
In fact,
we had a positive impression

01:14:36.658 --> 01:14:38.535
of the professionalism of SEMAR.

01:14:38.535 --> 01:14:39.912
We saw them as a...

01:14:40.287 --> 01:14:44.292
As a... Perhaps one of the best
law enforcement

01:14:44.667 --> 01:14:46.877
security partners in Mexico.

01:14:47.503 --> 01:14:49.005
[man]

01:15:28.502 --> 01:15:32.005
[Phillip] When protests
and disturbances closed

01:15:32.005 --> 01:15:33.925
one of the main cargo bridges,

01:15:33.925 --> 01:15:36.593
that very much came
onto our radar because

01:15:36.593 --> 01:15:41.140
it was affecting directly
the 15,000 trailer trucks

01:15:41.140 --> 01:15:45.393
that are crossing back and forth
over the river every day.

01:15:45.978 --> 01:15:50.608
We saw it in the context
of a disinformation campaign,

01:15:50.608 --> 01:15:52.485
the military being pushed back

01:15:52.485 --> 01:15:54.528
from the point of view
of the criminal actors,

01:15:54.528 --> 01:15:57.365
the cartel, because the military
had been effective.

01:15:57.365 --> 01:16:00.117
And since we were
on the side of the forces

01:16:00.117 --> 01:16:02.828
that could bring more
law and order into Nuevo Laredo,

01:16:03.203 --> 01:16:05.623
because that's where
the vast majority

01:16:05.623 --> 01:16:06.957
of the Mexicans themselves were,

01:16:06.957 --> 01:16:08.960
and we were with them
in trying to bring

01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:10.293
more security to the city.

01:16:10.293 --> 01:16:12.922
Our priority
was the cargo bridge.

01:16:13.338 --> 01:16:17.050
My focus was, in fact,
not the allegations

01:16:17.050 --> 01:16:18.802
that people
had been disappeared,

01:16:18.802 --> 01:16:20.303
but that the bridges
had been closed.

01:16:20.303 --> 01:16:23.640
I found that the source
of the allegations

01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:25.142
that people had been disappeared

01:16:25.142 --> 01:16:28.812
was coming from
Raymundo Ramos's organization,

01:16:29.313 --> 01:16:32.107
and it had been a very clever
disinformation to bring up

01:16:32.107 --> 01:16:34.318
people who had been killed
in military actions,

01:16:34.318 --> 01:16:36.070
firefights with the military,

01:16:36.070 --> 01:16:37.988
and say they had
been disappeared.

01:16:41.617 --> 01:16:43.618
[woman]

01:16:57.342 --> 01:16:58.968
[Raymundo]

01:17:28.872 --> 01:17:30.623
[reporter]

01:18:37.315 --> 01:18:38.608
[man]

01:18:38.608 --> 01:18:40.318
[Raymundo]

01:18:40.318 --> 01:18:41.320
[man]

01:18:42.822 --> 01:18:44.240
[Raymundo]

01:18:45.908 --> 01:18:47.535
[man]

01:18:48.118 --> 01:18:49.787
[Raymundo]

01:18:51.122 --> 01:18:52.665
[man]

01:18:57.587 --> 01:18:59.088
[Raymundo]

01:18:59.630 --> 01:19:00.713
[man]

01:19:01.715 --> 01:19:04.135
[Raymundo]

01:19:04.593 --> 01:19:05.593
[man]

01:19:05.593 --> 01:19:07.472
[Raymundo]

01:19:08.347 --> 01:19:09.473
[man]

01:19:09.473 --> 01:19:11.475
[Raymundo]

01:19:13.768 --> 01:19:15.187
[man]

01:19:15.897 --> 01:19:17.648
[Raymundo]

01:19:19.065 --> 01:19:20.777
[man]

01:19:37.793 --> 01:19:39.545
[reporter]

01:21:05.547 --> 01:21:09.802
Raymundo is a human rights
defender that has been informing

01:21:09.802 --> 01:21:13.180
Amnesty International and many
human rights organizations

01:21:13.180 --> 01:21:15.473
of cases for about
three decades,

01:21:15.473 --> 01:21:19.478
and we've always been aware
of the allegations against him,

01:21:19.478 --> 01:21:21.730
the allegations
of his links to--

01:21:21.730 --> 01:21:24.442
I mean, I can't even keep up
with the amount of allegations

01:21:24.442 --> 01:21:28.612
of different supposed
networks of criminal networks

01:21:28.612 --> 01:21:29.947
that Raymundo could be part of.

01:21:29.947 --> 01:21:31.323
You know, unfortunately,

01:21:31.323 --> 01:21:33.617
these states such as Tamaulipas,

01:21:33.617 --> 01:21:38.830
anybody that is going to try
and bring evidence to light

01:21:38.830 --> 01:21:40.665
in those contexts

01:21:40.665 --> 01:21:43.460
is going to be the subject
of a lot of attacks.

01:24:39.928 --> 01:24:41.012
[Raymundo]

01:25:30.562 --> 01:25:32.438
[talk show host]

01:26:19.612 --> 01:26:21.530
[talk show host]

01:26:55.105 --> 01:26:56.815
[talk show host]

01:27:06.617 --> 01:27:08.243
[Raymundo]

01:27:48.408 --> 01:27:50.660
[woman]

01:28:44.047 --> 01:28:46.132
[Raymundo]

01:29:15.953 --> 01:29:18.248
Some other lady called me
and said...

01:29:18.248 --> 01:29:19.540
[speaking Spanish]

01:29:19.540 --> 01:29:21.627
"...they already
got the Marinos."

01:29:21.627 --> 01:29:23.420
What? Is that true?

01:29:41.397 --> 01:29:42.980
[journalist 2]

01:29:47.443 --> 01:29:49.822
[journalist 3]

01:29:49.822 --> 01:29:51.448
I was real happy.

01:29:51.448 --> 01:29:52.990
Finally, they did it.

01:29:53.992 --> 01:29:57.120
I believe again
in Mexican authorities.

01:29:59.122 --> 01:30:01.332
Boom. The blindness came out.

01:30:04.543 --> 01:30:06.128
[protesters]

01:30:23.813 --> 01:30:25.815
[Raymundo]

01:30:39.662 --> 01:30:41.205
[applause]

01:30:43.375 --> 01:30:45.335
[Ramiro]

01:30:56.095 --> 01:30:59.557
[Mariá]
When the disculpa pública came,

01:30:59.557 --> 01:31:03.353
they were gonna say,
"I'm sorry we took your kids.

01:31:03.353 --> 01:31:04.353
I'm sorry."

01:31:05.522 --> 01:31:07.065
I wasn't approving that.

01:31:07.065 --> 01:31:10.152
I was against that because...

01:31:10.860 --> 01:31:12.362
where's our sons?

01:31:12.362 --> 01:31:13.613
I want my son.

01:31:13.613 --> 01:31:15.407
And then they can say,
"I'm sorry."

01:31:30.047 --> 01:31:33.300
[Mariá] I was watching
and hearing what he was saying,

01:31:33.300 --> 01:31:37.803
and I was like, "How could you
motherfuckers say,

01:31:38.222 --> 01:31:40.390
'I'm sorry' for the other ones
that did it?"

01:31:40.390 --> 01:31:42.767
Y'all are saying
that you done took them.

01:31:42.767 --> 01:31:45.062
We have the plates
and the serial number,

01:31:45.062 --> 01:31:47.688
and you're saying over here,
"I'm sorry"?

01:31:48.063 --> 01:31:50.567
And I was like, looking at him,
looking at him.

01:31:52.235 --> 01:31:53.528
Hypocrite.

01:32:00.493 --> 01:32:02.078
[applause]

01:32:11.045 --> 01:32:14.007
[Jessica] I was very proud
to accomplish that

01:32:14.007 --> 01:32:16.968
because the way I feel
right now,

01:32:16.968 --> 01:32:20.305
it's like, okay,
you're not going to talk about

01:32:20.305 --> 01:32:22.098
what happened with my husband.

01:32:22.098 --> 01:32:24.808
You're not going to tell me
where exactly he is.

01:32:24.808 --> 01:32:27.770
And I want you to know
that no matter what,

01:32:27.770 --> 01:32:30.273
I'm going to still be here,

01:32:30.815 --> 01:32:34.235
and I'm going to make you do
things that you have never done.

01:32:35.112 --> 01:32:36.320
I'm not gonna go away.

01:32:54.005 --> 01:32:56.633
What do we have? Nothing.

01:32:56.633 --> 01:32:59.052
Public apology is just a show.

01:33:10.730 --> 01:33:11.648
They're out.

01:33:12.482 --> 01:33:13.608
Why?

01:33:15.152 --> 01:33:16.443
We were real mad.

01:33:17.862 --> 01:33:20.323
[Raymundo]

01:34:37.608 --> 01:34:39.902
[Maureen]
What hasn't really happened

01:34:39.902 --> 01:34:41.445
has been part
of what was recommended,

01:34:41.445 --> 01:34:43.448
including by Mexico's
Human Rights Commission

01:34:43.448 --> 01:34:46.033
of the chain of command,
which never happens, it seems,

01:34:46.033 --> 01:34:47.160
in these cases in Mexico.

01:34:47.160 --> 01:34:48.828
Who was responsible?

01:34:48.828 --> 01:34:51.915
[Guadalupe] In the military
the structure is very vertical.

01:34:52.373 --> 01:34:54.917
And everybody knows
what everybody does.

01:34:54.917 --> 01:34:56.252
And it goes to the top.

01:34:56.627 --> 01:34:59.380
So if somebody is arrested,
they're going to say like,

01:34:59.380 --> 01:35:01.507
"But I was just
following orders."

01:35:03.927 --> 01:35:05.387
[Maureen]
I think what we've seen,

01:35:05.387 --> 01:35:07.680
particularly with different
US agencies,

01:35:07.680 --> 01:35:10.392
their priority is going after
drug traffickers.

01:35:10.767 --> 01:35:14.603
And that's, you know,
extraditions, arrests, raids.

01:35:14.603 --> 01:35:17.107
You know, interdiction
of tons of drugs

01:35:17.107 --> 01:35:20.068
and not the human rights
implications of those cases.

01:35:20.068 --> 01:35:22.445
I think in a case
like Ortega Siu

01:35:22.445 --> 01:35:25.782
or others that were working with
the US for many, many years,

01:35:25.782 --> 01:35:28.033
he was producing results.

01:35:28.033 --> 01:35:29.785
[Raymundo]

01:35:50.055 --> 01:35:53.768
And so I think that's where
we see the US.

01:35:53.768 --> 01:35:54.810
You know, looking--

01:35:54.810 --> 01:35:57.147
Passing a blind eye
or just really not focused

01:35:57.147 --> 01:36:00.358
on the overall implications
of this.

01:36:00.358 --> 01:36:01.650
[Raúl]

01:36:16.540 --> 01:36:20.253
There is a lot of information
about Ortega Siu.

01:36:21.003 --> 01:36:23.882
[interviewer] So why would they
work with someone like that?

01:36:23.882 --> 01:36:27.010
Because he's willing to perform

01:36:27.010 --> 01:36:30.722
what is needed
to be done to clean.

01:36:31.180 --> 01:36:33.975
You have a mission
to get rid of the heart

01:36:33.975 --> 01:36:36.685
of the Cártel del Noreste,

01:36:36.685 --> 01:36:40.022
the network that had its node
in Nuevo Laredo.

01:36:40.022 --> 01:36:44.068
And in a country like Mexico
where institutions are weak,

01:36:44.360 --> 01:36:47.113
I just will disappear
these people.

01:36:55.747 --> 01:36:57.748
[dramatic music playing]

01:40:00.305 --> 01:40:02.475
[dramatic music playing]

01:40:23.120 --> 01:40:25.080
[Mariá] When I go walk here

01:40:25.080 --> 01:40:27.083
and I see the trees

01:40:27.500 --> 01:40:30.127
with the air going like that...

01:40:30.127 --> 01:40:32.088
I still remember that day.

01:40:34.090 --> 01:40:35.842
It makes me go back.

01:40:37.427 --> 01:40:41.013
When I was asking for my son
just to give him back.

01:40:43.057 --> 01:40:44.933
It sticks my heart.

01:40:53.400 --> 01:40:54.943
Papas, where are you?

01:40:59.198 --> 01:41:00.533
I know you're there.

01:41:02.452 --> 01:41:03.870
I know you're there.

01:41:05.955 --> 01:41:07.082
I'm coming for you.

01:41:09.417 --> 01:41:11.627
[dramatic music playing]

01:41:20.135 --> 01:41:22.722
[woman singing in Spanish]

01:41:52.502 --> 01:41:56.172
[woman continues
singing in Spanish]

01:42:25.493 --> 01:42:27.703
[music continues]

01:43:10.663 --> 01:43:13.082
[music continues]

01:43:43.653 --> 01:43:45.865
[music fades]