The S Word (94 min)
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A suicide attempt survivor is on a mission to find fellow survivors and document their stories of unguarded courage, insight, pain, and humor. Along the way, she discovers a national community rising to transform personal struggles into action. THE S WORD chronicles her journey and these survivors in a powerful feature documentary that puts a human face to a topic that has long been stigmatized and buried with the lives it has claimed. Suicide affects people of all ages, races, faiths, ethnicities, gender presentations, sexual orientations, professions, and so much more.
THE S WORD skillfully weaves stories of survivors from a cross-section of America including LGBT, African American and Asian American communities, who candidly share their profoundly emotional stories of trauma, mental health challenges, survival, and advocacy. The film’s narrative flows organically from one story to the next, starting with personal moments and building emotional momentum before widening out to show how their journeys are driving the national movement to take the “S” word from unthinkable to preventable.
Educational Media Reviews Online (EMRO) | Bryan J. Sajecki, University at Buffalo
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED "This film will be a strong addition to any academic library, especially one with a focus on mental health and psychology. In addition, the film would benefit a younger audience in high schools and the general population."
Video Librarian ★★★½
"Presented in both its full-length version and a one-hour abridged edition, this powerful film about a tragically perennial mental health issue is highly recommended."
Booklist
"Via comments from psychologists and other experts, viewers learn the importance of bringing suicide and mental illness out in the open, breaking the stigma and silence. Even those participants who admit to ongoing struggles speak of hope for the future. An original music score accents this program that raises suicide-prevention awareness and opens avenues of discussion in an ultimately life-affirming fashion."
Oakwood School, CA | Ivan Johnson, Dean of Students
"As a school administrator, I hear from parents and students everyday about the stress that our students are under. As educators we have a responsibility to do better; no kid should feel alone and feel like they have nobody who sees them. Changing the culture of our schools and changing the emotional experience our students are having is vital for our future as educators. THE S WORD will become one of the great tools for educators to start doing this work on a higher and more effective level."
Dr. Sally Spencer-Thomas, Impact Entrepreneur and Professional Speaker in Suicide Prevention
"THE S WORD will move your soul. Through both laughter and tears we walk on a journey with suicide attempt survivors and loss survivors as they find pathways back to hope and healing. When we debuted the movie with a private screening before it's official launch at the American Association of Suicidology's Annual Conference, the thunderous applause and standing ovation could be heard all over Phoenix. Lisa Klein is a genius -- able to capture the struggles and triumphs of all of the men and women in her film with such tenderness and compassion. This is by far the best depiction of a wide range of lived experiences with suicide that I have ever seen. It's bound to bring the ‘the S word’ out of the closet into the light of recovery."
Congregation Rodef Sholom | JoAnne Forman, LMFT, REAL Mental Health Initiative Program Coordinator
"Screening THE S WORD in our community had a powerful impact on breaking through the silence that so often surrounds talking about the topic of suicide. It has helped decrease stigma and provide space for people with lived experience to share their own stories and be supported in new ways by our community. THANK YOU for this beautiful film!"
Pivotal Points | Kevin Briggs, Speaker, Author & Veteran
"THE S WORD takes you on a profound journey through the minds of people who are struggling with mental health issues. Be prepared for an emotional roller coaster. It is superbly done and a must-see for anyone interested in behavioral health.”
American Association of Suicidology | Dr. Wiliam Schmitz Jr., PsyD, Past President
"THE S WORD has the potential to do more for suicide prevention in one year than I have in my career… We can all learn from this film."
Southeast Louisiana Veterans’ Health Care System | April Foreman, Psychologist
"I kept finding that I was crying and laughing at the same time. No one expects to be inspired by a documentary on suicide but viewers will leave informed, inspired and uplifted."
The University of Arizona | Galen McCaw, Media Specialist with Landmark Stories
"THE S WORD reminds us of the humanity of all people, of all walks of life, who have stood at the precipice of taking their own lives. The film's integrity is rooted in its honest depiction of the complexity of the problem of suicide, managing to be optimistic without ever straying from authenticity."
Citation
Main credits
Klein, Lisa (film director)
Klein, Lisa (film producer)
Klein, Lisa (screenwriter)
Blush, Doug (film producer)
Blush, Doug (screenwriter)
Blush, Doug (director of photography)
Cautherley, Julian (film producer)
Norton, Kurt (film producer)
Other credits
Director of photography, Doug Blush; original score, Jordan Halpern; editor, Josh Bayer.
Distributor subjects
Counseling; Suicidology; Mental Health; Psychology; Crisis Intervention; Family StudiesKeywords
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(music)
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The only direction
I really give them
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is to look into my lens.
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(music)
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I want whoever's looking
at the picture
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to be looking into
this person's eyes...
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(music)
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(clicking)
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(music)
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because we've always,
always, always looked away...
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(music)
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and it's not time
to look away anymore.
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(music)
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(camera shutter clicking)
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(music)
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All right, shoulder forward.
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(music)
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There you go.
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Right, I was actually
just terrified, I'm like...
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(music)
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Sorry.
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I think it's so awkward.
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(music)
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(buzzing)
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(music)
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"My body, with every
new tattoo, is becoming
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a visual representation
of the pain I feel.
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A shrine to that one act
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I wish I had the balls
to carry out."
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(music)
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"Body feels like a lead weight.
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I can't help but feel like
everybody's disappointed in me.
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Girlfriend drunk.
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Alone, alone, alone."
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(music)
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"We had this argument
where she said
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she would help me die."
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Okay.
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(music)
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I was scared about
having graduated college,
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I was scared about life,
I was scared about money.
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(music)
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I just lost it, like,
that was the tipping point.
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(music)
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"Nobody else has felt
this before?"
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This is just the day
I tried to kill myself,
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just all day,
all day I was going.
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(music)
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I just didn't really know
what to do next.
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(music)
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I hadn't really discussed
my attempt with people.
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It wasn't a thing that I could
talk to, like, my boss about.
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On bad days, I couldn't
call out depressed.
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(music)
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I started getting myself on
industry lists to go to shows,
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but it was getting to a point
where shooting rock stars
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wasn't fulfilling anymore.
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That was not filling my soul.
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(music)
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I started to look for
other people like me.
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I was kind of like,
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"Why do I feel like
I'm the only one?"
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I know that I hear
about suicide on TV.
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The 14-year-old teenager
committed suicide
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after the release
of an embarrassing video.
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Actor Robin Williams
is dead at the age of 63
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from an apparent suicide.
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How could you think
of killing yourself?
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We love you.
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What he did was selfish.
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I just can't imagine
things getting so messed up
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that you would consider
taking your own life.
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But where is everyone,
why am I the only one, like,
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"Yeah, that happened to me
and that sucked"?
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You know, when I grew up
in Brooklyn,
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nobody committed suicide.
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Everyone was too unhappy.
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(music)
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I decided that I would interview
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other attempt survivors
and get their stories,
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whatever they wanted to tell me.
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And then,
right after they told me,
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I would make a portrait.
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(rain pattering)
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I know you've been a model.
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- Yes, I have.
- A male model.
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A hair model.
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(music)
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(camera shutter clicking)
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(music)
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I love living out here.
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We see a bear once in a while.
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It's crazy.
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If it wasn't such
a long commute to work,
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I would live even further
into the woods.
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(car signal clicking)
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Play artist Cold Steel Crown.
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Playing the artist
Cold Steel Crown.
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(music)
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Tight.
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There was a part of me
that really liked
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those incredibly dark moments
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where I felt like nobody else
experiences things like I do.
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You know what I love about...
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Make it fear me
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The sky is falling
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But it's only on me
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(chuckles)
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I'm too old for it now.
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Stay still,
let it pass 'round me
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(music)
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The first time
I considered suicide,
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I was eight years old.
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I remember standing
in my kitchen
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and no one else was home,
I was there, and I was alone,
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I was very alone.
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And in the sink
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was this large chef's knife,
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and I kept thinking,
"What could it do to me?"
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I know what
it's capable of doing.
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It could make my life end.
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(music)
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At that time,
I was being molested
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and had been being molested
for a few years prior.
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(music)
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Most of the incidents occurred
in a crawl space
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beneath my house.
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There were times when I could
hear my family's footsteps
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on the floor above me
while it was going on.
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Nobody knew about it
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except for the kids
in the neighborhood
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and the kids
I went to school with,
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and at that age, I mean,
talk about ammo for bullying.
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(music)
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I just reached a point
where I stopped caring,
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I stopped believing.
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That's where my heart
broke for life.
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I didn't want to live life.
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(music)
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I sat on the edge of
a rented bed one night.
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I filled my body with pills
and I went to sleep...
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(music)
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and I had no intention
of waking up.
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(music)
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I remember my... my brother,
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on the third day that I was
in the intensive care unit,
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they were almost ready
to release me
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to a psychiatric hospital
for evaluation,
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and it was just my brother
and I in there alone.
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He was very quiet.
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We didn't know what to say,
and all of a sudden,
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he leans over to me and he says,
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"What's gonna make you
want to stay?"
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(music)
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I think the reason
that question hit me so hard
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was because I really
didn't have an answer.
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(music)
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(clanging)
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I had no idea
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when all this started,
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why he didn't talk about it.
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Maybe he was ashamed.
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I don't know what it was.
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I wish I had known.
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How come you always say
"rented bed"?
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Because I was paying rent.
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You're full of shit.
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No, I'm not full of shit.
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She didn't take a nickel
from you.
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I used my food stamps,
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I would give my food stamps
to her.
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- I never knew that.
- Yeah, that's why I say that,
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'cause it was like that.
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It wasn't my place, you know?
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- I never knew that.
- Yeah, yeah.
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- Yeah?
- Mm-hm.
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Not blaming him, of course,
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but I wish he would've asked me
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or told me or something.
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(indistinct chatter)
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(music)
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He didn't.
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That darkness is
the only life I ever knew.
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I didn't know what it was like
to be confident.
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I didn't know what it was like
to think positively.
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I was very comfortable
in a place that was dark.
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(music)
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The morning I found him,
I got up early,
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I went to
a doctor's appointment,
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came back, he wasn't up yet,
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so I went up to wake him up.
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Knocked on his door a few times,
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he didn't answer,
so I open it up.
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He was laying in bed.
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Picked him up, tried to
wake him up, I couldn't.
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I yelled out to call 911.
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They came,
took him down to UMass.
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I went right behind him,
of course.
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(beeping)
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It's... that was... that was
the worst morning of my life.
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(beeping)
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Ah, shit.
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It's, like,
6:00 in the morning,
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and I'm trying to find a bridge
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or a wall or something
that I can get the, uh,
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get the picture
that I'm looking for.
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I definitely need
some kind of privacy
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'cause I don't want
people freaking out
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that there's a guy in a gas mask
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hanging out under a bridge
or something.
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I felt like a total failure.
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I didn't... what did I miss?
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How... how come I didn't see it?
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I was kicking my own ass
for a while.
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(music)
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All the nights
he went to bed crying
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and didn't want to go
to school the next day
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because he'd get his ass kicked.
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(music)
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That's the final round
doing something like that,
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and, you know, what the hell
pushed him to it?
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I had, you know?
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(music)
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It just scared
the hell out of ya.
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(beeping)
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(music)
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(camera shutter clicking)
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(music)
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Just because I care,
I used a washable marker
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and brought bleach
to clean it all up with.
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(music)
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Suicide is the tenth
leading cause of death.
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If we can't talk about it,
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we sure as heck can't
do something different
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or better about it.
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We lose 112 people every day.
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That's bigger than
a small jet airplane.
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And if we had one plane
falling out of the sky
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every single day,
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I guarantee you our country
would make it a priority.
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(indistinct chatter)
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(camera shutter clicking)
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(music)
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I couldn't stand to look
at myself in the mirror,
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and that certainly
stems from my sexuality.
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I thought I had to prove myself,
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to prove that I was not
just a total burden
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because I was gay.
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All right, we're almost done.
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I knew suicide was a topic
that people were so scared of.
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How do I pursue this in a way
that's not gonna be cliché
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or triggering or gory or gross?
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That's so cool.
00:13:59.271 --> 00:14:01.240
(music)
00:14:01.273 --> 00:14:04.810
A lot of the time,
I come across these people
00:14:04.843 --> 00:14:07.746
and they have never told
anyone their story.
00:14:07.780 --> 00:14:10.216
You know, unloading that
when it's something
00:14:10.249 --> 00:14:13.819
that you've been made
to feel shameful about
00:14:13.852 --> 00:14:16.088
is really powerful.
00:14:16.121 --> 00:14:19.225
My first attempt
was when I was 12.
00:14:19.258 --> 00:14:21.894
I know, now, as someone
who works with kids,
00:14:21.927 --> 00:14:23.862
any attempt that
a 12-year-old makes
00:14:23.896 --> 00:14:25.364
is a pretty serious attempt.
00:14:25.397 --> 00:14:28.834
A 12-year-old shouldn't have
thoughts like that.
00:14:28.867 --> 00:14:31.237
(music)
00:14:31.270 --> 00:14:34.974
Often, the photo
is the hardest part.
00:14:35.007 --> 00:14:38.210
Like, I just told you
the worst parts of my life,
00:14:38.244 --> 00:14:41.714
but now I have to stand here
in front of your camera.
00:14:41.747 --> 00:14:44.216
(camera shutter clicking)
00:14:44.250 --> 00:14:46.218
(music)
00:14:46.252 --> 00:14:48.387
There are so many different
kinds of people
00:14:48.420 --> 00:14:49.989
that I've interviewed.
00:14:50.022 --> 00:14:51.757
All different shapes and sizes
00:14:51.790 --> 00:14:54.693
and gender presentations
and sexualities
00:14:54.727 --> 00:14:57.596
and ethnicities and faiths.
00:14:57.630 --> 00:14:59.732
(music)
00:14:59.765 --> 00:15:01.267
When you're trying
to end your life,
00:15:01.300 --> 00:15:04.270
you are inevitably
going to be dying alone.
00:15:04.303 --> 00:15:06.205
And something kicked in
that said,
00:15:06.238 --> 00:15:08.440
"I don't want to be by myself.
00:15:08.474 --> 00:15:12.411
I just want somebody to know
that I'm in this extreme pain
00:15:12.444 --> 00:15:15.814
that can't seem to end."
00:15:15.848 --> 00:15:17.783
When people agree
to do these interviews,
00:15:17.816 --> 00:15:18.884
they know going in
00:15:18.917 --> 00:15:22.888
that I have also
attempted suicide.
00:15:22.921 --> 00:15:26.392
They know that
I'm not gonna judge them.
00:15:26.425 --> 00:15:29.061
(music)
00:15:29.094 --> 00:15:31.764
"She wasn't crazy,
but the world had a way
00:15:31.797 --> 00:15:33.799
of making her feel so.
00:15:33.832 --> 00:15:35.367
She liked the darkness,
00:15:35.401 --> 00:15:38.904
how it wrapped around her
like a warm, familiar blanket,
00:15:38.937 --> 00:15:40.839
spilled words from her lips
00:15:40.873 --> 00:15:43.208
like red wine on white carpets.
00:15:43.242 --> 00:15:46.412
She said whatever
the fuck she wanted.
00:15:46.445 --> 00:15:49.014
(music)
00:15:49.048 --> 00:15:52.351
They called her "Crazy K"
and it stuck.
00:15:52.384 --> 00:15:54.420
She wasn't crazy, just honest.
00:15:54.453 --> 00:15:57.156
She didn't want to live
'cause when your world ends
00:15:57.189 --> 00:15:59.224
but you're still alive,
00:15:59.258 --> 00:16:02.861
there's something crazy
about that."
00:16:02.895 --> 00:16:06.432
Hey, does this look exciting?
00:16:06.465 --> 00:16:09.134
Does it?
00:16:09.168 --> 00:16:11.537
Oh, my God, Atticus.
00:16:11.570 --> 00:16:13.706
(lip smacking)
00:16:13.739 --> 00:16:17.976
"She was 13 when she wrote
the first suicide note.
00:16:18.010 --> 00:16:20.346
It was on a Post-it.
00:16:20.379 --> 00:16:24.650
She wasn't crazy
but succinct as fuck."
00:16:28.020 --> 00:16:30.389
For Christmas, my mom decided
00:16:30.422 --> 00:16:32.558
that she would make me a collage
00:16:32.591 --> 00:16:36.528
of basically, like,
our entire lives together.
00:16:36.562 --> 00:16:39.264
I call her a lot
just to hear her voice,
00:16:39.298 --> 00:16:40.866
just to kind of be soothed
00:16:40.899 --> 00:16:43.802
that something is stable
in the world.
00:16:43.836 --> 00:16:45.170
Okay, so just do this and move?
00:16:45.204 --> 00:16:47.106
- Bring it, bring it over.
- Okay.
00:16:47.139 --> 00:16:48.640
- Shit.
- And there's a car.
00:16:48.674 --> 00:16:51.076
Oh, God, oh, God, oh, God.
00:16:51.110 --> 00:16:53.011
There's a lot of stigma
and shame,
00:16:53.045 --> 00:16:55.247
especially in
the African-American community
00:16:55.280 --> 00:17:00.085
and, so, there was this, like,
you just have to be strong.
00:17:00.119 --> 00:17:03.822
But being cast
as a strong black woman,
00:17:03.856 --> 00:17:07.793
that almost led me to death.
00:17:07.826 --> 00:17:10.129
God, look at this posture.
00:17:10.162 --> 00:17:13.365
You know, ♪suicidesowhite?
00:17:14.967 --> 00:17:16.007
It's because it doesn't...
00:17:16.034 --> 00:17:18.904
- Can we?
- Can we, ♪suicidesowhite?
00:17:18.937 --> 00:17:20.105
Yeah.
00:17:20.139 --> 00:17:22.408
(bell ringing)
00:17:22.441 --> 00:17:24.676
You know,
I'm, like, a teenage girl
00:17:24.710 --> 00:17:25.844
and I'm telling my friends
00:17:25.878 --> 00:17:28.180
about not wanting to be around.
00:17:28.213 --> 00:17:30.015
When I'd say, like,
"I'm feeling really down,"
00:17:30.048 --> 00:17:32.718
they'd just be, like,
"Get over it."
00:17:32.751 --> 00:17:33.852
(music)
00:17:33.886 --> 00:17:36.822
The reaction of
the people around me
00:17:36.855 --> 00:17:39.825
was just, "Shut up."
00:17:39.858 --> 00:17:41.493
So, what I learned was,
00:17:41.527 --> 00:17:43.595
oh, I better not share
this with anyone.
00:17:43.629 --> 00:17:47.099
I better bury this
deep inside of myself
00:17:47.132 --> 00:17:50.068
and build this mask.
00:17:50.102 --> 00:17:52.237
And it's starting to get
really stressful
00:17:52.271 --> 00:17:53.939
and I'm still pretending
to be happy,
00:17:53.972 --> 00:17:55.841
but I'm suicidal and, you know,
00:17:55.874 --> 00:17:56.975
but I'm squishing it down
00:17:57.009 --> 00:17:58.911
and I'm doing all of this stuff.
00:17:58.944 --> 00:18:00.746
(music)
00:18:00.779 --> 00:18:02.881
And then I get raped.
00:18:02.915 --> 00:18:05.417
(music)
00:18:05.451 --> 00:18:08.520
I was raped by someone
that I knew,
00:18:08.554 --> 00:18:11.423
someone that I thought
was a friend.
00:18:11.457 --> 00:18:14.960
And I drove by, accidentally,
00:18:14.993 --> 00:18:17.262
my assailant's house.
00:18:17.296 --> 00:18:20.132
Once that happened,
I was like, "I got to go."
00:18:20.165 --> 00:18:21.934
You can't fake your way
out of this.
00:18:21.967 --> 00:18:23.969
You can't smile out of this.
00:18:24.002 --> 00:18:26.638
This is like the bottom.
00:18:26.672 --> 00:18:29.975
In that moment,
it just exploded,
00:18:30.008 --> 00:18:31.710
the mask, the pretending,
the lying,
00:18:31.743 --> 00:18:33.846
I was like, "I don't
fucking care anymore,
00:18:33.879 --> 00:18:35.814
I don't want to live."
00:18:35.848 --> 00:18:38.116
(music)
00:18:38.150 --> 00:18:43.021
All my mom could say was,
"Why, why, why, baby?"
00:18:43.055 --> 00:18:44.823
Anytime you attempt,
you first have to go
00:18:44.857 --> 00:18:46.291
to the, like, medical hospital
00:18:46.325 --> 00:18:48.894
where they, like, make sure
everything's okay.
00:18:48.927 --> 00:18:50.629
And I have this nurse tell me,
00:18:50.662 --> 00:18:54.900
"You know, don't let yourself
get raped again."
00:18:54.933 --> 00:18:56.435
I'm in a psych ward
and I'm like,
00:18:56.468 --> 00:19:00.973
"I want to react to this,
and you have power over me,
00:19:01.006 --> 00:19:02.007
and you think the helpful thing
00:19:02.040 --> 00:19:05.544
is to tell me
not to get raped again?"
00:19:05.577 --> 00:19:08.380
Meanwhile, we're watching, like,
00:19:08.413 --> 00:19:10.682
they're actually showing
Silence of the Lambs
00:19:10.716 --> 00:19:13.485
in the mental hospital,
and I'm like,
00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:15.220
I'm telling the nurses,
I'm like, "Do you guys think
00:19:15.254 --> 00:19:17.155
this is, like,
an appropriate movie choice?"
00:19:17.189 --> 00:19:18.290
You can't make that shit up.
00:19:18.323 --> 00:19:20.926
You can't make that shit up.
00:19:22.494 --> 00:19:24.263
What I learned from
being in the hospital
00:19:24.296 --> 00:19:27.132
was how never to be
in a hospital again.
00:19:27.165 --> 00:19:30.369
You know, there's still
ups and downs, I mean,
00:19:30.402 --> 00:19:32.671
you know, I find ways
through music,
00:19:32.704 --> 00:19:33.972
through my karaoke,
00:19:34.006 --> 00:19:37.976
through my poetry
to live better.
00:19:38.010 --> 00:19:40.779
It was a big smashing
this mask of
00:19:40.812 --> 00:19:44.683
I'm gonna make you laugh
and make you look that way.
00:19:44.716 --> 00:19:47.286
(laughing)
00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:49.454
Secrets made me sick.
00:19:49.488 --> 00:19:51.557
That's what I really
think about it.
00:19:51.590 --> 00:19:52.925
I want more of
your hand in that,
00:19:52.958 --> 00:19:53.959
but look at that shit.
00:19:53.992 --> 00:19:54.893
That's my face.
00:19:54.927 --> 00:19:56.562
Hey, it's okay.
00:19:56.595 --> 00:19:57.996
It's not bad.
00:19:58.030 --> 00:20:03.201
(music)
00:20:03.235 --> 00:20:06.104
Tell me your name,
how old you are,
00:20:06.138 --> 00:20:07.873
what you do,
and then your story,
00:20:07.906 --> 00:20:09.975
however you want to tell it.
00:20:10.008 --> 00:20:11.743
Leah Harris.
00:20:11.777 --> 00:20:14.279
I'm 39.
00:20:14.313 --> 00:20:16.715
Arlington, Virginia.
00:20:16.748 --> 00:20:21.053
And I'm a mental health
advocate...
00:20:21.086 --> 00:20:22.854
/activist.
00:20:22.888 --> 00:20:26.158
When I'm... when I'm grumpy,
I'm an activist.
00:20:26.191 --> 00:20:28.927
When I'm nice, I'm an advocate.
00:20:28.961 --> 00:20:30.596
Can everybody hear me?
00:20:30.629 --> 00:20:31.730
Yeah!
00:20:31.763 --> 00:20:35.634
My name is Leah Harris,
and I am a survivor.
00:20:35.667 --> 00:20:38.437
We survived and we must
celebrate that
00:20:38.470 --> 00:20:40.606
in the midst of the grief
and the rage
00:20:40.639 --> 00:20:44.843
for all who've lost
their lives and their dreams.
00:20:44.876 --> 00:20:47.546
I remember having
my first suicidal thoughts
00:20:47.579 --> 00:20:50.816
when I was probably seven.
00:20:50.849 --> 00:20:53.719
My mother really tried
her best as a single mom
00:20:53.752 --> 00:20:57.489
to raise me on her own,
but I'm a single parent
00:20:57.522 --> 00:21:01.727
and I'm doing pretty well,
and it's still hard.
00:21:01.760 --> 00:21:04.029
And just to imagine
what my mom went through
00:21:04.062 --> 00:21:07.299
trying to raise me.
00:21:07.332 --> 00:21:10.102
She was living on disability,
00:21:10.135 --> 00:21:12.771
diagnosed with schizophrenia.
00:21:12.804 --> 00:21:14.873
She would take herself
off the medication
00:21:14.906 --> 00:21:16.375
because it made her sleep,
00:21:16.408 --> 00:21:18.377
and who can, you know,
raise a child
00:21:18.410 --> 00:21:21.980
when you're sleeping
14 hours a day?
00:21:22.014 --> 00:21:23.415
(music)
00:21:23.448 --> 00:21:25.517
Eventually,
the court systems came in
00:21:25.550 --> 00:21:29.021
and I was taken away from her.
00:21:29.054 --> 00:21:30.489
(music)
00:21:30.522 --> 00:21:33.325
That was a rupture that changed
00:21:33.358 --> 00:21:35.527
the course of both of our lives.
00:21:35.560 --> 00:21:38.130
(music)
00:21:38.163 --> 00:21:43.435
She was institutionalized
until she died at age 46.
00:21:45.170 --> 00:21:46.605
My grandparents who raised me
00:21:46.638 --> 00:21:48.807
after I was taken away
from my mom,
00:21:48.840 --> 00:21:52.711
their mentality was,
you know, suck it up.
00:21:52.744 --> 00:21:53.845
I said, "It would
have been better
00:21:53.879 --> 00:21:56.682
if I'd never been born."
00:21:56.715 --> 00:21:59.484
My family obviously freaked out.
00:21:59.518 --> 00:22:03.555
So, I was shipped off
to a child psychiatrist
00:22:03.588 --> 00:22:06.091
and she would just kind of
peer at me from across a desk
00:22:06.124 --> 00:22:08.560
and show me inkblots.
00:22:08.593 --> 00:22:10.962
I had these sort of
existential questions
00:22:10.996 --> 00:22:14.433
that are sort of the questions
that the great philosophers
00:22:14.466 --> 00:22:16.868
have always asked,
like why are we here?
00:22:16.902 --> 00:22:18.770
Which, you know, if you're
like an old white man,
00:22:18.804 --> 00:22:21.373
that's considered,
you know, philosophy,
00:22:21.406 --> 00:22:25.877
but for me, it was
a sign of pathology.
00:22:25.911 --> 00:22:27.279
(music)
00:22:27.312 --> 00:22:30.048
I just always felt like
an alien, like a burden.
00:22:30.082 --> 00:22:33.318
I didn't know why I was here.
00:22:33.351 --> 00:22:35.387
(music)
00:22:35.420 --> 00:22:38.190
My family didn't
want me anymore.
00:22:38.223 --> 00:22:42.461
They placed me in a group home.
00:22:42.494 --> 00:22:44.262
And they said, "Yeah,
you're gonna have to be here
00:22:44.296 --> 00:22:45.297
for the rest of your life.
00:22:45.330 --> 00:22:48.600
You're severely disabled."
00:22:48.633 --> 00:22:51.269
I was terrified that
I was gonna go down
00:22:51.303 --> 00:22:53.705
my mother's path.
00:22:53.739 --> 00:22:55.774
I actually heard a doctor
say to my grandparents,
00:22:55.807 --> 00:22:57.609
"She has more than a 50% chance
00:22:57.642 --> 00:23:00.078
of ending up
like her parents."
00:23:00.112 --> 00:23:02.748
Like, every mistake I made
was a symptom of my illness
00:23:02.781 --> 00:23:04.583
rather than just,
like, I'm human.
00:23:04.616 --> 00:23:08.053
We're all gonna, like,
fuck up from time to time.
00:23:08.086 --> 00:23:12.924
(music)
00:23:12.958 --> 00:23:16.728
I begged my family
to let me come home.
00:23:16.762 --> 00:23:19.631
And I'm lucky that I had them.
00:23:19.664 --> 00:23:21.800
Turn your body a little bit
to the side here.
00:23:21.833 --> 00:23:24.336
Not everybody has a family
to come home to.
00:23:24.369 --> 00:23:26.004
Don't look so uncomfortable.
00:23:26.037 --> 00:23:28.507
Loose, loose, loose.
00:23:28.540 --> 00:23:32.210
Things kind of started
to shift for me then.
00:23:32.244 --> 00:23:34.179
I got my high school diploma.
00:23:34.212 --> 00:23:35.981
(music)
00:23:36.014 --> 00:23:38.917
I just started to have, like,
the smallest amount of hope.
00:23:38.950 --> 00:23:43.221
Look into my lens
so I can see your soul.
00:23:43.255 --> 00:23:46.324
(music)
00:23:46.358 --> 00:23:47.859
That's it.
00:23:47.893 --> 00:23:55.893
(music)
00:24:01.740 --> 00:24:03.642
It's sort of like
a mission for me
00:24:03.675 --> 00:24:07.212
to support others
who have been suicidal
00:24:07.245 --> 00:24:09.648
to become advocates.
00:24:09.681 --> 00:24:11.516
And Iden, like myself, is
somebody
00:24:11.550 --> 00:24:14.352
as somebody who really views
mental health
00:24:14.386 --> 00:24:17.122
as a social justice issue.
00:24:17.155 --> 00:24:20.292
As somebody that is not
00:24:20.325 --> 00:24:22.460
necessarily female or male,
00:24:22.494 --> 00:24:25.964
I've purposefully
worked really hard
00:24:25.997 --> 00:24:29.201
over the last four years
trying to stay here.
00:24:29.234 --> 00:24:32.204
The part of me that wants
to live is much stronger.
00:24:32.237 --> 00:24:36.308
You know, that balance was not
always so firm, you know?
00:24:36.341 --> 00:24:40.812
It was often skewed much more
towards wanting to die.
00:24:40.846 --> 00:24:45.116
Every trans person you meet
is an advocate.
00:24:45.150 --> 00:24:48.153
Like, they always say,
"All of us know each other."
00:24:48.186 --> 00:24:52.090
We all know each other
because we're all activists.
00:24:52.123 --> 00:24:55.026
Time magazine said
this is our tipping point.
00:24:55.060 --> 00:24:57.729
We have a hell of a lot
more work to do
00:24:57.762 --> 00:24:59.798
because all the laws
in the world
00:24:59.831 --> 00:25:04.469
will not make a difference
if half of us are dead.
00:25:04.502 --> 00:25:06.638
And that is what is happening.
00:25:06.671 --> 00:25:08.640
Trans rights are human rights!
00:25:08.673 --> 00:25:10.141
The violence that we experience,
00:25:10.175 --> 00:25:12.110
the discrimination,
00:25:12.143 --> 00:25:15.814
that's where these suicidal
thoughts are coming from.
00:25:15.847 --> 00:25:19.184
Because we know that it's
literally life or death for us,
00:25:19.217 --> 00:25:22.187
that fire is huge.
00:25:22.220 --> 00:25:23.722
(music)
00:25:23.755 --> 00:25:25.824
All right, I think
this is the last question.
00:25:25.857 --> 00:25:28.660
Is suicide still
an option for you?
00:25:28.693 --> 00:25:30.996
When I became a mother,
00:25:31.029 --> 00:25:33.565
I just sort of
took it off the table,
00:25:33.598 --> 00:25:35.500
you know, for me, as an option.
00:25:35.533 --> 00:25:36.801
You know, I don't know
that I'll ever be cured
00:25:36.835 --> 00:25:38.536
of having suicidal feelings
00:25:38.570 --> 00:25:40.872
and I don't know
that I need to be,
00:25:40.906 --> 00:25:43.775
but I do know that, you know,
00:25:43.808 --> 00:25:47.245
I want to be there
to see my son grow up.
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:49.414
That's really important to me.
00:25:49.447 --> 00:25:55.153
(music)
00:25:55.186 --> 00:25:56.922
Hello?
00:25:56.955 --> 00:25:59.090
(music)
00:26:00.625 --> 00:26:02.627
Are you gonna enjoy this,
me following you around
00:26:02.661 --> 00:26:03.862
with a camera all the time?
00:26:03.895 --> 00:26:06.031
I really like watching you
be cross-eyed
00:26:06.064 --> 00:26:07.966
as you look at the camera
in your hand.
00:26:07.999 --> 00:26:09.434
Am I cross-eyed?
00:26:09.467 --> 00:26:11.970
(laughing)
00:26:14.105 --> 00:26:16.174
Okay, goodbye.
00:26:16.207 --> 00:26:18.109
Des and I met on OkCupid.
00:26:18.143 --> 00:26:20.812
I was looking for someone
who would be really fun
00:26:20.845 --> 00:26:24.482
and easy and did not look like
they wanted a relationship,
00:26:24.516 --> 00:26:27.686
and I saw her profile
and it was really...
00:26:27.719 --> 00:26:29.054
fucked up.
00:26:29.087 --> 00:26:30.822
It was basically like,
"I've been through
00:26:30.855 --> 00:26:32.724
this terrible divorce,
00:26:32.757 --> 00:26:36.828
um, I don't want anything
to do with a relationship,
00:26:36.861 --> 00:26:39.664
and if you can't talk
about suicide with me
00:26:39.698 --> 00:26:42.100
in an academic way,
then don't even bother."
00:26:42.133 --> 00:26:45.937
I was like, "Who is
this insane person
00:26:45.971 --> 00:26:49.007
with a rat on her shoulder
in the profile picture?"
00:26:49.040 --> 00:26:51.710
Ah, the rat.
00:26:51.743 --> 00:26:54.012
This is our mausoleum cubby.
00:26:54.045 --> 00:26:55.347
(music)
00:26:55.380 --> 00:26:57.115
This is the rat's box.
00:26:57.148 --> 00:26:58.750
(music)
00:26:58.783 --> 00:27:02.854
This is my dad,
he's at the beach.
00:27:02.887 --> 00:27:04.856
And the rat's in her box.
00:27:04.889 --> 00:27:07.158
I really wanted to date
the rat on OkCupid.
00:27:07.192 --> 00:27:09.494
I would, she's hot.
00:27:09.527 --> 00:27:11.296
She's dead.
00:27:11.329 --> 00:27:13.264
One of the major challenges
of being with somebody
00:27:13.298 --> 00:27:14.599
who has a mental illness
00:27:14.632 --> 00:27:17.035
is that you are worrying
for their well-being
00:27:17.068 --> 00:27:18.603
and if they will
harm themselves,
00:27:18.636 --> 00:27:19.904
in addition to worrying
for them,
00:27:19.938 --> 00:27:22.741
like, just as a person.
00:27:22.774 --> 00:27:24.009
We're always talking about,
like,
00:27:24.042 --> 00:27:25.844
how do we stop it
from escalating?
00:27:25.877 --> 00:27:29.180
And I think that's common
to any relationship.
00:27:29.214 --> 00:27:31.750
(music)
00:27:31.783 --> 00:27:34.886
It is literally
a life-and-death struggle.
00:27:34.919 --> 00:27:37.155
I want to live,
but I'm very well aware
00:27:37.188 --> 00:27:38.790
of the fact that
there's this thing
00:27:38.823 --> 00:27:41.760
that's always going
to be plaguing me.
00:27:41.793 --> 00:27:44.929
Our landlord raised the rent
a hundred dollars.
00:27:44.963 --> 00:27:49.034
We're gonna end up,
like, having to move, uh...
00:27:49.067 --> 00:27:50.135
(music)
00:27:50.168 --> 00:27:54.139
a train stop away every time...
00:27:54.172 --> 00:27:56.608
until suicide starts
paying the bills.
00:27:56.641 --> 00:27:57.976
Look, I got into
this relationship
00:27:58.009 --> 00:28:00.979
because I was hitching my wagon
to your suicide star,
00:28:01.012 --> 00:28:03.081
like I don't understand
why it's not happening yet.
00:28:03.114 --> 00:28:06.384
I remember that,
my suicide star.
00:28:06.418 --> 00:28:08.553
(music)
00:28:08.586 --> 00:28:11.256
Today is Easter Sunday,
00:28:11.289 --> 00:28:13.058
and I'm kind of
in a springtime mood,
00:28:13.091 --> 00:28:14.859
feeling good, feeling happy.
00:28:14.893 --> 00:28:15.894
I want to break the cycle of
00:28:15.927 --> 00:28:16.995
all the dark, creepy photography
00:28:17.028 --> 00:28:18.296
that I've been doing lately
00:28:18.329 --> 00:28:21.499
and put in some flowers
and things like that.
00:28:21.533 --> 00:28:22.834
Make sure they're backlit
by the sun
00:28:22.867 --> 00:28:25.470
and then I just spray
some water on 'em
00:28:25.503 --> 00:28:27.806
while I photograph it.
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:29.974
So, hopefully,
you'll like the photos
00:28:30.008 --> 00:28:33.611
and find it a little more upbeat
00:28:33.645 --> 00:28:35.814
than some of the gas mask stuff.
00:28:35.847 --> 00:28:37.348
I go first.
00:28:37.382 --> 00:28:38.349
Yeah, I'm...
00:28:38.383 --> 00:28:39.717
All right, Emma, ready?
00:28:39.751 --> 00:28:43.188
Put your hand on a blue star.
00:28:43.221 --> 00:28:44.522
Blue star.
00:28:44.556 --> 00:28:46.091
Tomorrow, mainly sunny skies.
00:28:46.124 --> 00:28:49.527
It'll jump up nicely
to around 72 in the afternoon.
00:28:49.561 --> 00:28:51.563
Suicide.
00:28:51.596 --> 00:28:52.831
(music)
00:28:52.864 --> 00:28:54.933
Suicide, the way
I can describe it to you
00:28:54.966 --> 00:28:59.003
is it was the first thought
in my mind every single day.
00:29:00.605 --> 00:29:01.773
It was my option,
00:29:01.806 --> 00:29:04.509
it was my solution
to everything.
00:29:04.542 --> 00:29:05.743
(music)
00:29:05.777 --> 00:29:08.012
I really, really want
to change people.
00:29:08.046 --> 00:29:10.748
I want to change the way
people think.
00:29:10.782 --> 00:29:12.550
I want them to leave that room
totally changed
00:29:12.584 --> 00:29:15.587
and think of suicide
in a completely different way.
00:29:15.620 --> 00:29:16.888
- That's hard.
- It's very hard,
00:29:16.921 --> 00:29:19.791
but sometimes
I do it really well
00:29:19.824 --> 00:29:21.926
and everybody's moved,
and there's other times
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:25.830
when there's a guy
in the back nodding off.
00:29:25.864 --> 00:29:27.932
The pressure is unreal.
00:29:27.966 --> 00:29:29.734
I think why that's hard
for me to understand
00:29:29.767 --> 00:29:32.937
is because you like it,
so it's hard for me...
00:29:32.971 --> 00:29:35.874
Yeah, that is really weird,
I don't know.
00:29:35.907 --> 00:29:37.742
I don't have an explanation
for that.
00:29:37.775 --> 00:29:39.844
Yeah.
00:29:39.878 --> 00:29:41.913
We were together
for almost five years
00:29:41.946 --> 00:29:44.816
before we had kids.
00:29:44.849 --> 00:29:46.851
I just remember thinking
how nervous he seemed
00:29:46.885 --> 00:29:48.119
and how cute he was,
00:29:48.153 --> 00:29:51.523
and he told me everything
that first night
00:29:51.556 --> 00:29:52.924
about who he was
and his history,
00:29:52.957 --> 00:29:56.661
and it was refreshing,
the honesty.
00:29:56.694 --> 00:29:58.796
(music)
00:29:58.830 --> 00:30:00.031
I can't tell you how many times
00:30:00.064 --> 00:30:02.901
I was asked the question
if I wanted to die,
00:30:02.934 --> 00:30:04.669
but no one ever,
00:30:04.702 --> 00:30:08.439
not once was I asked
if I wanted to live.
00:30:08.473 --> 00:30:11.142
Saying, "Yes, I want to live,"
that's up at the ceiling.
00:30:11.176 --> 00:30:12.844
Saying, "No,
I don't want to die,"
00:30:12.877 --> 00:30:15.113
just means that I'm still
that eight-year-old kid
00:30:15.146 --> 00:30:16.781
laying on the kitchen floor
00:30:16.814 --> 00:30:20.185
with a knife
next to me, sobbing.
00:30:20.218 --> 00:30:23.855
I went to get my hair cut,
and the woman cutting my hair,
00:30:23.888 --> 00:30:25.823
she said, "Do you have
any plans for the weekend?"
00:30:25.857 --> 00:30:27.692
I said, "Oh, yeah,
I'm giving a talk.
00:30:27.725 --> 00:30:30.061
It's about a suicide attempt
that I had."
00:30:30.094 --> 00:30:31.896
(music)
00:30:31.930 --> 00:30:33.898
I could see her in the mirror
and she just froze up
00:30:33.932 --> 00:30:35.500
and got really, really numb.
00:30:35.533 --> 00:30:37.735
And she started talking
about it a little more,
00:30:37.769 --> 00:30:38.970
and she's cutting my hair,
00:30:39.003 --> 00:30:40.271
and she started talking
about it a little more,
00:30:40.305 --> 00:30:42.040
and I could see
the release on her
00:30:42.073 --> 00:30:44.042
as she kept cutting my hair.
00:30:44.075 --> 00:30:47.512
She ended up cutting my hair,
I think, four full times,
00:30:47.545 --> 00:30:51.916
to the point that I was like,
"Can... I can't go any shorter.
00:30:51.950 --> 00:30:53.818
Can you please stop?"
00:30:53.851 --> 00:30:55.353
(music)
00:30:55.386 --> 00:30:57.355
And, then, she said,
00:30:57.388 --> 00:31:01.793
"I had an uncle
that died by suicide."
00:31:01.826 --> 00:31:03.194
You know, the reason
it gets to where it is
00:31:03.228 --> 00:31:06.331
is because we don't
talk about it.
00:31:06.364 --> 00:31:08.233
(music)
00:31:08.266 --> 00:31:10.235
To say,
"I'm an attempt survivor,"
00:31:10.268 --> 00:31:14.706
even say the word "suicide"
is a record stopper.
00:31:14.739 --> 00:31:18.643
(music)
00:31:18.676 --> 00:31:20.011
A snow picture.
00:31:20.044 --> 00:31:21.846
We got us a bag of markers.
00:31:21.879 --> 00:31:23.381
Awesome.
00:31:23.414 --> 00:31:26.284
Fatherhood is, to me,
00:31:26.317 --> 00:31:28.720
the most difficult thing
I've ever experienced
00:31:28.753 --> 00:31:29.988
in my entire life.
00:31:30.021 --> 00:31:32.056
(sing-song notes)
00:31:32.090 --> 00:31:34.659
It destroys
my self-confidence.
00:31:34.692 --> 00:31:37.362
(music)
00:31:37.395 --> 00:31:40.665
And I have these huge
fears that I'm gonna have
00:31:40.698 --> 00:31:41.966
a negative impact on their life
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:44.269
because I'm not
raising them correctly.
00:31:44.302 --> 00:31:48.940
(music)
00:31:48.973 --> 00:31:50.675
He wants so much to be
the perfect father,
00:31:50.708 --> 00:31:52.977
but because of his job,
00:31:53.011 --> 00:31:54.679
and all the work
he does with prevention,
00:31:54.712 --> 00:31:56.681
he's not around a lot.
00:31:56.714 --> 00:31:57.849
Often, even on the weekends,
00:31:57.882 --> 00:32:01.119
sometimes he doesn't
leave the bedroom.
00:32:01.152 --> 00:32:02.587
It hits me because
I've heard of that,
00:32:02.620 --> 00:32:04.389
you know, growing up
I know about people that say,
00:32:04.422 --> 00:32:05.923
"Oh, yeah, you know,
they never leave the room."
00:32:05.957 --> 00:32:07.325
Like, oh, gosh.
00:32:07.358 --> 00:32:08.760
And then that...
00:32:08.793 --> 00:32:10.628
Somehow that's
how my life became.
00:32:10.662 --> 00:32:18.662
(music)
00:32:22.940 --> 00:32:25.243
This is a letter
I got from some girl.
00:32:25.276 --> 00:32:27.879
I think she's 14 years old.
00:32:27.912 --> 00:32:29.614
This is what she
wrote on the front.
00:32:30.948 --> 00:32:33.818
She had a plan,
and now she doesn't wanna die,
00:32:33.851 --> 00:32:35.520
and she's gonna go get help.
00:32:37.221 --> 00:32:40.024
It's important to me that
I tell you the whole story,
00:32:40.058 --> 00:32:41.698
I made that decision
when I wrote the book
00:32:41.726 --> 00:32:46.397
and decided to come forward
as an attempt survivor.
00:32:46.431 --> 00:32:48.066
When I was writing, I was there.
00:32:48.099 --> 00:32:50.902
I had times when I had
tears in my eyes for hours
00:32:50.935 --> 00:32:52.804
while I wrote as fast
as my fingers
00:32:52.837 --> 00:32:55.239
would go across the board.
00:32:55.273 --> 00:32:57.475
I never knew he was
writing a book
00:32:57.508 --> 00:32:59.677
until he wrote the book,
until afterwards.
00:32:59.711 --> 00:33:01.913
He didn't tell anybody.
00:33:01.946 --> 00:33:02.914
When you going to Atlanta?
00:33:02.947 --> 00:33:04.582
Going to Atlanta in April.
00:33:04.615 --> 00:33:08.586
I'm driving down to American
Association of Suicidology's
00:33:08.619 --> 00:33:11.723
national conference,
I'm speaking on a panel there.
00:33:11.756 --> 00:33:16.227
He's got a second chance,
and he is definitely using it.
00:33:16.260 --> 00:33:18.396
Yeah, he ain't
sitting home, saying,
00:33:18.429 --> 00:33:20.465
"Hey, I'll never
do that again."
00:33:20.498 --> 00:33:23.634
He's telling other people
not to do it,
00:33:23.668 --> 00:33:27.505
'cause you might not
get a second chance.
00:33:27.538 --> 00:33:30.408
It's been a very,
very long journey,
00:33:30.441 --> 00:33:34.779
and I believe wholeheartedly
that I've achieved balance.
00:33:34.812 --> 00:33:37.915
As a writer, as a speaker,
00:33:37.949 --> 00:33:39.917
as a husband, as a daddy...
00:33:39.951 --> 00:33:41.919
(audience giggles)
00:33:41.953 --> 00:33:44.655
(crying)
00:33:44.689 --> 00:33:46.023
What happened,
what happened, what happened?
00:33:46.057 --> 00:33:47.959
Emma bit me!
00:33:47.992 --> 00:33:49.260
What?
00:33:49.293 --> 00:33:50.862
(crying)
00:33:50.895 --> 00:33:52.897
(water running)
00:33:52.930 --> 00:33:59.871
(music)
00:33:59.904 --> 00:34:02.807
This is the time
that I have to kind of
00:34:02.840 --> 00:34:04.942
take a moment
and just be with myself,
00:34:04.976 --> 00:34:07.478
and take care of me.
00:34:07.512 --> 00:34:15.512
(music)
00:34:17.688 --> 00:34:19.891
When he's upset and sometimes
needs to go for a drive,
00:34:19.924 --> 00:34:23.194
I never worry that
he won't come back.
00:34:23.227 --> 00:34:25.830
I think he's much
stronger than he lets on.
00:34:25.863 --> 00:34:29.100
(music)
00:34:29.133 --> 00:34:30.735
"In the grip of feeble hands,
00:34:30.768 --> 00:34:32.203
through a veil of hazy eyes,
00:34:32.236 --> 00:34:33.838
your colors swirl in silence
00:34:33.871 --> 00:34:35.706
beneath a ghostly rise.
00:34:35.740 --> 00:34:38.776
Embrace me in your warmth
as we bid farewell tonight,
00:34:38.810 --> 00:34:42.480
and kiss my weary lips
to bring me back to life."
00:34:42.513 --> 00:34:44.415
Most people think
when they read this
00:34:44.449 --> 00:34:46.551
that it's about losing somebody.
00:34:48.019 --> 00:34:51.722
I actually wrote this
about, um...
00:34:51.756 --> 00:34:53.958
my coffee.
00:34:53.991 --> 00:34:56.961
So... that's one
of my favorites.
00:34:56.994 --> 00:34:58.396
(chuckles)
00:34:58.429 --> 00:34:59.764
(music)
00:34:59.797 --> 00:35:02.266
Not every story
has to be shiny and happy,
00:35:02.300 --> 00:35:03.701
and that's not reality.
00:35:03.734 --> 00:35:07.171
But people do go through
their ups and downs,
00:35:07.205 --> 00:35:09.841
and you can come back from this.
00:35:09.874 --> 00:35:11.108
You just want me to talk?
00:35:11.142 --> 00:35:12.310
Just talk, yeah.
00:35:12.343 --> 00:35:14.812
We'll figure it out, it's fine.
00:35:14.846 --> 00:35:18.316
There are parts of me...
00:35:18.349 --> 00:35:20.384
of which I'm glad I'm alive,
00:35:20.418 --> 00:35:21.853
but there's many parts of me
00:35:21.886 --> 00:35:24.222
that I really wish I wasn't.
00:35:24.255 --> 00:35:25.690
I don't know if I'm really safe,
00:35:25.723 --> 00:35:27.925
I don't know if I'm
out of the woods yet.
00:35:27.959 --> 00:35:29.460
When was your last attempt?
00:35:29.494 --> 00:35:32.463
Two and a half years ago.
00:35:32.497 --> 00:35:37.502
I have two really amazing kids.
00:35:37.535 --> 00:35:40.771
That's the reason
I'm still alive.
00:35:40.805 --> 00:35:42.840
(sighs)
00:35:42.874 --> 00:35:43.875
Isn't that what those are for?
00:35:43.908 --> 00:35:46.344
Yeah, exactly.
00:35:46.377 --> 00:35:47.845
To irritate you
and keep you alive?
00:35:47.879 --> 00:35:49.780
Yeah, dammit.
00:35:53.050 --> 00:35:54.919
Such a stud.
00:35:54.952 --> 00:35:55.920
Me and my perfect shot.
00:35:55.953 --> 00:35:57.188
All right.
00:36:00.091 --> 00:36:01.159
I mean, when you first told me,
00:36:01.192 --> 00:36:02.860
I was just...
00:36:02.894 --> 00:36:05.630
I was super... I was incredibly
shocked to begin with.
00:36:05.663 --> 00:36:06.964
Like, thinking of
taking your own life,
00:36:06.998 --> 00:36:09.467
that's... that's scary
and sad,
00:36:09.500 --> 00:36:12.770
and shouldn't happen, you know?
00:36:14.005 --> 00:36:15.206
I'm sorry.
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:16.574
I mean, like, hearing that,
00:36:16.607 --> 00:36:19.644
it definitely made my
heart drop, and like...
00:36:19.677 --> 00:36:22.547
I just can't even imagine
without you in my life.
00:36:22.580 --> 00:36:24.382
Don't even want
to think about it.
00:36:24.415 --> 00:36:27.385
But I know I need to.
00:36:27.418 --> 00:36:32.290
I never, ever would want
to leave you or hurt you.
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.228
I don't know.
00:36:37.261 --> 00:36:39.363
I'm really glad
you did tell me this.
00:36:39.397 --> 00:36:41.699
I think you're stronger
than I did before
00:36:41.732 --> 00:36:46.504
because you were going out,
reaching out and telling me.
00:36:46.537 --> 00:36:47.872
Like, I want to be there for you
00:36:47.905 --> 00:36:49.941
if you need help.
00:36:49.974 --> 00:36:57.974
(music)
00:37:03.087 --> 00:37:06.257
I wanna wake up
and see the day and go,
00:37:06.290 --> 00:37:08.893
"Oh, it's a new day,
this is awesome."
00:37:08.926 --> 00:37:11.062
This is what I want.
00:37:11.095 --> 00:37:12.763
(shutter clicks)
00:37:12.797 --> 00:37:13.965
You look good, girl.
00:37:13.998 --> 00:37:16.167
Thank you so much.
00:37:16.200 --> 00:37:18.436
(shutter clicks)
00:37:18.469 --> 00:37:21.205
Since I've come out
with my story,
00:37:21.238 --> 00:37:22.740
I want to do everything I can
00:37:22.773 --> 00:37:24.375
to share that more,
00:37:24.408 --> 00:37:27.478
and I am about to start working
00:37:27.511 --> 00:37:29.914
the Suicide Crisis Line.
00:37:29.947 --> 00:37:33.184
(phone rings)
00:37:33.217 --> 00:37:35.152
Suicide Prevention
Center Crisis Line.
00:37:35.186 --> 00:37:36.887
So, sir, if you'd like,
I can give you...
00:37:36.921 --> 00:37:39.256
So, you lost your job
and your girlfriend,
00:37:39.290 --> 00:37:41.192
that's pretty rough.
00:37:41.225 --> 00:37:42.560
How have you been handling that?
00:37:42.593 --> 00:37:44.261
I just want to know how
I can help you.
00:37:44.295 --> 00:37:46.931
You're trying to reach out
and get some support
00:37:46.964 --> 00:37:48.833
before it gets worse, huh?
00:37:48.866 --> 00:37:50.635
Do you have a plan
of how you would do it?
00:37:50.668 --> 00:37:53.237
Sounds like you really
need somebody to talk to.
00:37:53.270 --> 00:37:55.606
Talk about how to keep
yourself safe...
00:37:55.640 --> 00:37:59.610
What we have to do
is help people feel
00:37:59.644 --> 00:38:02.146
safe and comfortable
to talk about something
00:38:02.179 --> 00:38:03.881
that scares
the hell out of them.
00:38:05.216 --> 00:38:06.717
And if somebody
can connect with you
00:38:06.751 --> 00:38:08.886
in that moment where
you're feeling like
00:38:08.919 --> 00:38:10.788
there's no reason to live,
00:38:10.821 --> 00:38:13.891
that takes them out
of the aloneness.
00:38:13.924 --> 00:38:16.227
And the moment that
they're not feeling alone,
00:38:16.260 --> 00:38:18.162
they're already safer
than they were
00:38:18.195 --> 00:38:20.097
before they spoke with you.
00:38:20.131 --> 00:38:22.833
(speaking Spanish)
00:38:26.404 --> 00:38:27.605
She's fine?
00:38:27.638 --> 00:38:29.407
- Ended up well?
- I think so.
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.542
I just had to make sure
that you have the support
00:38:31.575 --> 00:38:34.078
that you needed for that.
00:38:34.111 --> 00:38:35.913
You know, not everybody
can do this.
00:38:35.946 --> 00:38:37.982
A lot of people care,
but it's sometimes
00:38:38.015 --> 00:38:40.217
really difficult
to put that care
00:38:40.251 --> 00:38:43.888
and that passion
and compassion into, um,
00:38:43.921 --> 00:38:45.589
the right kind of skill set
to talk to people
00:38:45.623 --> 00:38:47.224
who are thinking about suicide.
00:38:47.258 --> 00:38:50.261
(music)
00:38:50.294 --> 00:38:52.963
Brandon.
00:38:52.997 --> 00:38:54.765
Brandon was one of our own.
00:38:54.799 --> 00:38:56.567
He was a very,
very good counselor.
00:38:56.600 --> 00:38:59.403
I think he saved many lives.
00:38:59.437 --> 00:39:01.238
How long has it been
since you've had any
00:39:01.272 --> 00:39:02.740
kind of psychiatric help?
00:39:02.773 --> 00:39:05.242
This was his way of
staying alive, I think,
00:39:05.276 --> 00:39:06.777
for a number of years.
00:39:06.811 --> 00:39:08.079
Are you calling us
because you're having
00:39:08.112 --> 00:39:10.247
thoughts of killing yourself?
00:39:10.281 --> 00:39:12.650
Brandon was the only
shift supervisor
00:39:12.683 --> 00:39:15.820
I've ever had who had groupies.
00:39:15.853 --> 00:39:17.822
(speaking Spanish)
00:39:17.855 --> 00:39:23.027
(music)
00:39:23.060 --> 00:39:26.397
When Brandon and I started
spending time together,
00:39:26.430 --> 00:39:29.967
it was like he got me
in a way that nobody else
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:31.736
understood me.
00:39:31.769 --> 00:39:34.872
(music)
00:39:34.905 --> 00:39:36.540
That was him.
00:39:36.574 --> 00:39:39.710
When he was happy,
he seemed like he was...
00:39:39.744 --> 00:39:40.945
damn happy!
00:39:40.978 --> 00:39:42.847
(laughs)
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.716
(music)
00:39:45.750 --> 00:39:50.087
This was his home
for the last 10 years
00:39:50.121 --> 00:39:52.423
of his life, was here.
00:39:52.456 --> 00:39:54.892
(plays piano)
00:39:54.925 --> 00:40:02.925
(music)
00:40:13.377 --> 00:40:14.311
Anyway...
00:40:14.345 --> 00:40:15.846
that's like the gist of it.
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:20.785
(music)
00:40:20.818 --> 00:40:24.789
Don't wanna see the light
00:40:24.822 --> 00:40:28.526
'Cause I don't feel any light
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:29.994
He was a rock star.
00:40:30.027 --> 00:40:31.095
Anymore
00:40:31.128 --> 00:40:33.264
And that's when he
grew his hair really long
00:40:33.297 --> 00:40:35.666
so he looked like a rock star.
00:40:35.699 --> 00:40:38.836
Don't wanna wake up anymore
00:40:38.869 --> 00:40:41.806
He was such a goofball
that it didn't at all fit
00:40:41.839 --> 00:40:44.208
with the intensity of the times
00:40:44.241 --> 00:40:46.110
when he was on the phone with me
00:40:46.143 --> 00:40:47.444
threatening to kill himself
00:40:47.478 --> 00:40:49.847
if I got off the phone with him.
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:53.017
And maybe...
00:40:53.050 --> 00:40:58.022
I shouldn't say goodbye,
but it seems the time (music)
00:40:58.055 --> 00:40:59.690
(music)
00:40:59.723 --> 00:41:01.225
One day he called me,
00:41:01.258 --> 00:41:02.660
and I went over to his house,
00:41:02.693 --> 00:41:05.796
and he was in a really,
really crazy state.
00:41:08.232 --> 00:41:09.667
He wouldn't look me in the eye,
00:41:09.700 --> 00:41:11.836
he was just pacing
back and forth
00:41:11.869 --> 00:41:15.239
kind of shaking and fidgeting.
00:41:15.272 --> 00:41:19.810
He turned to this door,
and I remember this so vividly.
00:41:19.844 --> 00:41:21.679
He started banging
his head against
00:41:21.712 --> 00:41:24.281
the large glass door.
00:41:24.315 --> 00:41:26.183
(music)
00:41:26.217 --> 00:41:28.052
I'm a junior in high school
that's never dealt
00:41:28.085 --> 00:41:29.486
with anything like this.
00:41:29.520 --> 00:41:32.323
(music)
00:41:32.356 --> 00:41:34.758
Six months later,
an episode like that
00:41:34.792 --> 00:41:39.330
would not have seemed
unusual to me at all.
00:41:39.363 --> 00:41:41.599
The days of looking
at a phone ringing
00:41:41.632 --> 00:41:43.767
and you can see the caller ID,
00:41:43.801 --> 00:41:44.902
and I remember
specifically thinking,
00:41:44.935 --> 00:41:46.537
"Gosh, I should
be answering the phone,
00:41:46.570 --> 00:41:48.372
but I just... I can't do it."
00:41:48.405 --> 00:41:54.979
(music)
00:41:55.012 --> 00:41:59.550
This is a place that it was
kind of his inner sanctum.
00:41:59.583 --> 00:42:01.352
It was both his live space
00:42:01.385 --> 00:42:02.887
and his work space.
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:06.390
(strums guitar)
00:42:06.423 --> 00:42:08.425
And to be, you know,
invited up here
00:42:08.459 --> 00:42:11.395
was like to be...
00:42:11.428 --> 00:42:13.931
to be invited into
his heart, in a way.
00:42:13.964 --> 00:42:19.136
(music)
00:42:19.169 --> 00:42:23.007
This wasn't lyrics,
as far as I know.
00:42:23.040 --> 00:42:27.912
This was just kind of,
I think, something that...
00:42:27.945 --> 00:42:29.980
nobody really wanted
to question him
00:42:30.014 --> 00:42:31.982
too much about.
00:42:32.016 --> 00:42:34.818
Asking him,
"Are you suicidal?"
00:42:34.852 --> 00:42:37.821
I couldn't ask him
that early on.
00:42:37.855 --> 00:42:40.391
I couldn't even face that.
00:42:40.424 --> 00:42:42.192
There was really that side of me
00:42:42.226 --> 00:42:44.795
that this is all gonna end,
00:42:44.828 --> 00:42:46.463
he's gonna be okay.
00:42:46.497 --> 00:42:54.497
(music)
00:42:56.907 --> 00:42:59.143
In his writings,
I came across something
00:42:59.176 --> 00:43:03.447
that said, "The voices
are quiet now,
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:06.517
I'm not upset anymore."
00:43:06.550 --> 00:43:11.689
(music)
00:43:11.722 --> 00:43:12.890
(thunder, rain pelting)
00:43:12.923 --> 00:43:16.193
I woke up
and it was pouring rain.
00:43:16.226 --> 00:43:18.629
(music)
00:43:18.662 --> 00:43:21.398
He walked by me outside,
he's coming home,
00:43:21.432 --> 00:43:24.368
and he says,
"I'm going to sleep."
00:43:24.401 --> 00:43:28.572
He was just like going
these long days at a time
00:43:28.605 --> 00:43:30.941
where he wasn't really
getting any sleep.
00:43:30.975 --> 00:43:37.147
(music)
00:43:37.181 --> 00:43:38.949
I looked out the window,
00:43:38.983 --> 00:43:41.518
and his car was still there.
00:43:41.552 --> 00:43:43.854
(rain gently rapping)
00:43:43.887 --> 00:43:46.223
And, um, I walked out there,
00:43:46.256 --> 00:43:48.192
and I saw him.
00:43:48.225 --> 00:43:50.394
(soft thunder)
00:43:50.427 --> 00:43:52.429
He had hung himself.
00:43:53.864 --> 00:43:55.566
That's the scene
I play over and over
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:57.534
in my mind.
00:43:57.568 --> 00:44:00.838
(music)
00:44:00.871 --> 00:44:03.874
It felt like, like my body,
00:44:03.907 --> 00:44:08.779
the world kind of
collapsed under me.
00:44:08.812 --> 00:44:13.017
Well me, I always dread
that one day will come,
00:44:13.050 --> 00:44:14.485
you know, so...
00:44:14.518 --> 00:44:16.787
(music)
00:44:16.820 --> 00:44:19.857
What happened
00:44:19.890 --> 00:44:22.092
that I didn't
look out the window?
00:44:22.126 --> 00:44:25.029
(music)
00:44:25.062 --> 00:44:28.799
I think that's my
biggest element of guilt.
00:44:28.832 --> 00:44:31.402
Why didn't I go over and look?
00:44:34.571 --> 00:44:41.211
(music)
00:44:41.245 --> 00:44:44.214
I knew right away
when I saw the text
00:44:44.248 --> 00:44:48.485
what it meant.
00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:51.155
It was just...
00:44:51.188 --> 00:44:52.790
I still...
00:44:52.823 --> 00:44:54.792
I mean, it was just not the way
00:44:54.825 --> 00:44:57.861
this whole thing
was supposed to end.
00:44:57.895 --> 00:45:01.565
I feel like I owe him something.
00:45:01.598 --> 00:45:03.834
I need to share his voice
00:45:03.867 --> 00:45:06.103
that he couldn't get out there.
00:45:06.136 --> 00:45:08.605
(music)
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:10.274
I finally thought,
you know what,
00:45:10.307 --> 00:45:12.309
I'm going to create
a dance about this.
00:45:12.342 --> 00:45:20.342
(music)
00:45:20.751 --> 00:45:22.786
It's a very intense show
for a lot of people,
00:45:22.820 --> 00:45:24.721
it's a very intense show
for people that
00:45:24.755 --> 00:45:26.557
didn't know Brandon.
00:45:26.590 --> 00:45:30.160
(music)
00:45:30.194 --> 00:45:32.529
I mean, I can't even
begin to comprehend
00:45:32.563 --> 00:45:37.000
the loss for his mom,
and his dad, and his sister.
00:45:37.034 --> 00:45:40.170
(music)
00:45:40.204 --> 00:45:43.807
Anybody who has lost
anyone through suicide,
00:45:43.841 --> 00:45:46.877
you always say,
"What did I miss?
00:45:46.910 --> 00:45:49.046
Why couldn't I save him?"
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.315
(music)
00:45:51.348 --> 00:45:53.217
What did I do wrong?
00:45:53.250 --> 00:45:55.319
(music)
00:45:55.352 --> 00:45:57.221
And what haven't I done?
00:45:57.254 --> 00:45:59.123
(music)
00:45:59.156 --> 00:46:02.092
I really don't have
an answer to that, you know?
00:46:02.126 --> 00:46:07.097
(music)
00:46:07.131 --> 00:46:08.966
(applause)
00:46:08.999 --> 00:46:10.300
The last thing we want...
00:46:10.334 --> 00:46:12.569
I think this is true
with everybody...
00:46:12.603 --> 00:46:16.473
Is to forget our loved one.
00:46:16.507 --> 00:46:24.507
(music)
00:46:30.854 --> 00:46:33.757
Why aren't we catching
people earlier?
00:46:33.790 --> 00:46:35.893
We aren't stopping
people five miles back
00:46:35.926 --> 00:46:37.427
where the exit is.
00:46:39.062 --> 00:46:43.600
We're trying to catch them
on the cliff's edge.
00:46:43.634 --> 00:46:45.636
Our goal should be,
as a society,
00:46:45.669 --> 00:46:49.206
create situations so that
people don't get to that edge.
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:50.841
The thing that makes
a difference for people
00:46:50.874 --> 00:46:52.276
is connectedness.
00:46:52.309 --> 00:47:00.309
(music)
00:47:03.954 --> 00:47:06.823
(radio chatter)
00:47:06.857 --> 00:47:09.860
Asking "Is deployment
related to suicide?"
00:47:09.893 --> 00:47:13.363
That's the wrong
question to ask.
00:47:13.397 --> 00:47:15.532
The better question is,
"What happens to you
00:47:15.566 --> 00:47:16.900
while you're deployed?
00:47:16.934 --> 00:47:19.002
And how do you make
sense out of that
00:47:19.036 --> 00:47:21.438
life experience?"
00:47:21.471 --> 00:47:23.574
When you're in the moment,
00:47:23.607 --> 00:47:24.808
that's when it matters.
00:47:24.841 --> 00:47:27.044
It's when you're on the edge
00:47:27.077 --> 00:47:29.213
that we need to know
can you walk away.
00:47:29.246 --> 00:47:32.749
(music)
00:47:32.783 --> 00:47:35.118
It's okay, buddy.
00:47:35.152 --> 00:47:37.854
You're okay, you're okay.
00:47:37.888 --> 00:47:39.923
I was a part of
the weapons company,
00:47:39.957 --> 00:47:42.459
I was a machine gunner,
00:47:42.492 --> 00:47:44.494
and then I ended up
becoming a squad leader
00:47:44.528 --> 00:47:47.464
for a group of 11 marines.
00:47:47.497 --> 00:47:50.767
(music)
00:47:50.801 --> 00:47:53.637
I just remember really
caring about the people
00:47:53.670 --> 00:47:55.205
to the left and right.
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:58.542
Like, that's where, like,
this shock of gray comes from
00:47:58.575 --> 00:48:01.845
is worrying about my buddies.
00:48:01.878 --> 00:48:03.814
Is that a potential friend?
00:48:03.847 --> 00:48:06.350
(dogs whine)
00:48:06.383 --> 00:48:07.684
Aw, what's his name?
00:48:07.718 --> 00:48:10.621
His name's Grunt,
Sergeant Grunt.
00:48:10.654 --> 00:48:11.788
Doesn't really fit the name.
00:48:11.822 --> 00:48:13.991
He's kind of a pushover,
he's kind of a coward.
00:48:14.024 --> 00:48:16.460
(Grunt panting)
00:48:16.493 --> 00:48:18.962
Had a buddy that,
you know, got hurt.
00:48:18.996 --> 00:48:20.397
Several buddies that got hurt.
00:48:20.430 --> 00:48:22.065
But, you know,
the one from my first tour
00:48:22.099 --> 00:48:25.269
where we were really close
and he got put on a helicopter.
00:48:25.302 --> 00:48:27.904
Um, you know,
that sticks with you.
00:48:27.938 --> 00:48:29.940
You don't know if you're
gonna see him again.
00:48:29.973 --> 00:48:31.942
(helicopter blades whipping)
00:48:31.975 --> 00:48:34.645
That structure, their community.
00:48:34.678 --> 00:48:37.781
They feel a lot more comfortable
being in that setting,
00:48:37.814 --> 00:48:39.016
and then when they
finally get home
00:48:39.049 --> 00:48:40.684
and they have time to think,
00:48:40.717 --> 00:48:44.154
it does seem kind of mundane
after being over there.
00:48:45.756 --> 00:48:48.759
I just didn't feel
a connection to anyone.
00:48:48.792 --> 00:48:52.562
It was so exhausting
00:48:52.596 --> 00:48:57.934
that I just kind of
laid down and didn't move.
00:48:57.968 --> 00:49:00.003
(music)
00:49:00.037 --> 00:49:06.109
I just couldn't fathom
a world in which...
00:49:06.143 --> 00:49:08.245
anyone needed Jay.
00:49:10.347 --> 00:49:12.916
That's when Grunt
just kept bugging me,
00:49:12.949 --> 00:49:16.253
and cuddling with me,
and pawing at my hands.
00:49:16.286 --> 00:49:19.089
(music)
00:49:19.122 --> 00:49:20.590
It's really hard
to talk about this
00:49:20.624 --> 00:49:23.026
because life right now is...
00:49:23.060 --> 00:49:25.762
going so good.
00:49:25.796 --> 00:49:30.133
Just recently
my best friend, um...
00:49:30.167 --> 00:49:33.403
asked me to be
an uncle to his kid.
00:49:33.437 --> 00:49:35.672
And...
00:49:35.706 --> 00:49:39.476
(music)
00:49:39.509 --> 00:49:44.781
To think I almost
denied myself...
00:49:44.815 --> 00:49:46.650
(sniffles)
00:49:46.683 --> 00:49:48.418
the chance to do that.
00:49:48.452 --> 00:49:53.790
(music)
00:49:57.961 --> 00:50:00.030
(beeping)
00:50:01.264 --> 00:50:04.101
(train rolling on track)
00:50:04.134 --> 00:50:06.570
Ladies and gentlemen,
your train operator.
00:50:06.603 --> 00:50:09.873
Control (unintelligible)
as we attempt to restore power.
00:50:09.906 --> 00:50:11.975
We should hopefully
be moving shortly.
00:50:12.008 --> 00:50:13.777
Thank you for your patience.
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:33.196
Ladies and gentlemen,
we have power restored.
00:50:38.935 --> 00:50:40.670
I was hoping that we could do
00:50:40.704 --> 00:50:43.273
a follow up at the end
where we kind of talk about,
00:50:43.306 --> 00:50:47.511
like, what the process
taught you about your project,
00:50:47.544 --> 00:50:49.446
what you could've
done differently,
00:50:49.479 --> 00:50:52.149
how it will possibly
inform other projects,
00:50:52.182 --> 00:50:54.818
which it totally will.
00:50:54.851 --> 00:50:56.286
You're creating a community,
00:50:56.319 --> 00:50:59.723
so it's beyond
just like the photographs.
00:50:59.756 --> 00:51:01.858
The photographs are the gateway.
00:51:01.892 --> 00:51:03.894
You're talking about
how to have some
00:51:03.927 --> 00:51:05.429
of the most difficult
conversations
00:51:05.462 --> 00:51:08.231
you could possibly
ever have with someone.
00:51:08.265 --> 00:51:10.901
So, embracing that
and kind of saying,
00:51:10.934 --> 00:51:12.869
"This is okay,
this space is gonna
00:51:12.903 --> 00:51:15.372
help you move through this,
00:51:15.405 --> 00:51:17.874
and yes, you might
not feel neutrally about it,
00:51:17.908 --> 00:51:19.609
and that's all right."
00:51:19.643 --> 00:51:21.178
It's the first show
that I've ever done,
00:51:21.211 --> 00:51:22.846
the first solo show
I've ever had
00:51:22.879 --> 00:51:24.448
for "Live Through This."
00:51:24.481 --> 00:51:26.583
So, this is a little
intro piece with the...
00:51:26.616 --> 00:51:31.822
The promo poster, um, of
Natalie Medina from Eugene.
00:51:33.356 --> 00:51:36.426
I just want people to look
into these people's eyes.
00:51:36.460 --> 00:51:39.763
To force the viewer
to look into their eyes.
00:51:39.796 --> 00:51:41.798
What do they say, the eyes
are the window to the soul?
00:51:41.832 --> 00:51:43.033
Which is kind of lame,
00:51:43.066 --> 00:51:46.203
but that is where
you find the humanity.
00:51:48.405 --> 00:51:50.273
I'm just trying
to show people, like,
00:51:50.307 --> 00:51:51.975
"Hey, this happens.
00:51:52.008 --> 00:51:54.644
And it could happen
to anybody."
00:51:54.678 --> 00:51:56.746
And I remember
the nurses saying, you know,
00:51:56.780 --> 00:52:00.417
"I don't know if you're
gonna live through this."
00:52:00.450 --> 00:52:02.586
And I got a text message
saying the producer
00:52:02.619 --> 00:52:04.387
of Glenn Beck is trying
to get in touch with you,
00:52:04.421 --> 00:52:05.856
he wants you on the show.
00:52:05.889 --> 00:52:07.958
And I was like, "Glenn Beck..."
00:52:07.991 --> 00:52:09.893
(music)
00:52:09.926 --> 00:52:13.430
This is the Glenn Beck Program.
00:52:13.463 --> 00:52:16.233
You know, in my life,
I've had... I didn't,
00:52:16.266 --> 00:52:17.901
not an attempt, but I was close,
00:52:17.934 --> 00:52:20.537
I was saved by a friend
and brought to a hospital.
00:52:20.570 --> 00:52:24.908
Um, did you regret
trying to kill yourself
00:52:24.941 --> 00:52:29.746
after trying to kill yourself?
00:52:29.779 --> 00:52:32.182
Um, you know,
that's a strange question.
00:52:32.215 --> 00:52:37.153
Uh, I feel like I needed
that experience.
00:52:37.187 --> 00:52:39.022
I don't want to do it over.
00:52:39.055 --> 00:52:42.893
I don't like to think
about it too hard.
00:52:42.926 --> 00:52:44.628
It happened, and it's over,
00:52:44.661 --> 00:52:46.196
but it's brought me
to this place
00:52:46.229 --> 00:52:48.698
where I can try
and help other people.
00:52:48.732 --> 00:52:51.301
So, yeah, we actually
had a really...
00:52:51.334 --> 00:52:53.336
It was a good conversation.
00:52:53.370 --> 00:52:55.739
My feelings on Glenn Beck
have been colored now.
00:52:55.772 --> 00:52:56.840
I know he's human.
00:52:59.910 --> 00:53:01.344
Goose.
00:53:01.378 --> 00:53:04.748
You look so beautiful,
so sexy, so backlit.
00:53:04.781 --> 00:53:05.949
Little halo.
00:53:08.852 --> 00:53:10.186
(cat meows)
00:53:10.220 --> 00:53:12.255
I wanna do this
much larger scale.
00:53:12.289 --> 00:53:15.725
I really want these portraits
to go to universities.
00:53:15.759 --> 00:53:19.496
Why are we not
encouraging the students
00:53:19.529 --> 00:53:23.333
to take care of themselves?
00:53:23.366 --> 00:53:25.669
It's the ones that
are ambivalent
00:53:25.702 --> 00:53:27.971
that could be swayed
just by someone saying,
00:53:28.004 --> 00:53:30.807
"Hey, I love you,
are you okay?"
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:32.175
Those are the lives
that you can save.
00:53:32.208 --> 00:53:33.843
And there are so many.
00:53:33.877 --> 00:53:37.213
(music)
00:53:37.247 --> 00:53:41.551
Suicide is terrifying to people.
00:53:41.585 --> 00:53:44.020
Even if it hasn't hit you
in your own family,
00:53:44.054 --> 00:53:45.322
we all have a connection,
00:53:45.355 --> 00:53:46.823
and we all have a story.
00:53:46.856 --> 00:53:48.491
(music)
00:53:48.525 --> 00:53:51.828
My brother struggled
on campus, alone,
00:53:51.861 --> 00:53:55.966
for almost the entirety
of his college career.
00:53:55.999 --> 00:54:00.036
Nobody was talking about mental
health issues on his campus,
00:54:00.070 --> 00:54:01.638
and so he lived with this alone.
00:54:01.671 --> 00:54:05.675
And I'm convinced
that it was that time
00:54:05.709 --> 00:54:08.712
that he struggled
without support
00:54:08.745 --> 00:54:12.449
that ultimately ended up
taking his life.
00:54:12.482 --> 00:54:13.917
And that, you know,
in so many ways,
00:54:13.950 --> 00:54:17.020
was the motivating factor
for me in starting Active Minds.
00:54:17.053 --> 00:54:21.057
(music)
00:54:21.091 --> 00:54:23.293
We've collected 1,100 backpacks
00:54:23.326 --> 00:54:25.228
that represent
the 1,100 college students
00:54:25.261 --> 00:54:27.530
who die by suicide every year.
00:54:27.564 --> 00:54:33.703
(music)
00:54:33.737 --> 00:54:36.673
We asked our students,
"Would you judge somebody
00:54:36.706 --> 00:54:38.708
for going to counseling
services?"
00:54:38.742 --> 00:54:40.644
And the majority
of the students said no.
00:54:40.677 --> 00:54:42.379
Then when we asked them
the question,
00:54:42.412 --> 00:54:43.713
"Would you feel that
you would be judged
00:54:43.747 --> 00:54:45.882
if you went
to counseling services?"
00:54:45.915 --> 00:54:47.784
Almost all of them said yes.
00:54:47.817 --> 00:54:48.952
(music)
00:54:48.985 --> 00:54:51.821
Until you actually
see it on display like this,
00:54:51.855 --> 00:54:54.724
I think it's hard
for people to talk
00:54:54.758 --> 00:54:58.028
about something
that they don't understand.
00:54:58.061 --> 00:55:00.997
(music)
00:55:01.031 --> 00:55:03.967
Active Minds is starting
conversations on campus.
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:05.602
(music)
00:55:05.635 --> 00:55:07.370
It's letting people
like Brian know
00:55:07.404 --> 00:55:08.938
that they're not alone.
00:55:08.972 --> 00:55:12.409
(music)
00:55:12.442 --> 00:55:15.645
If one student, today,
walks through here,
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:18.548
and chooses to speak up
out of silence,
00:55:18.581 --> 00:55:20.316
and chooses not
to take their life,
00:55:20.350 --> 00:55:22.686
then all of this is worth it.
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:30.719
(music)
00:55:38.635 --> 00:55:41.538
My hope is,
what is the s-word now
00:55:41.571 --> 00:55:44.841
will not be in 10 to 15 years.
00:55:44.874 --> 00:55:47.677
We've got to start
talking about this.
00:55:47.711 --> 00:55:55.711
(music)
00:55:55.885 --> 00:55:57.954
(horns honking)
00:55:57.987 --> 00:56:01.725
We don't really
spend enough time saying,
00:56:01.758 --> 00:56:04.227
"What works
best for you?"
00:56:04.260 --> 00:56:06.563
If you don't want to do yoga,
00:56:06.596 --> 00:56:08.098
you're gonna look at that
and you're gonna be like...
00:56:08.131 --> 00:56:11.334
"Whatever."
00:56:11.367 --> 00:56:13.937
We have to get a little,
like, in the muck of it
00:56:13.970 --> 00:56:15.739
with people.
00:56:15.772 --> 00:56:17.240
I get messages
all the time that are like,
00:56:17.273 --> 00:56:19.042
"My friend is telling me
they want to kill themselves.
00:56:19.075 --> 00:56:20.510
What do I do?"
00:56:20.543 --> 00:56:22.345
So, it's just like,
"Okay, I've been through this.
00:56:22.378 --> 00:56:23.713
What you do is you listen.
00:56:23.747 --> 00:56:25.648
They need to know
that somebody is there
00:56:25.682 --> 00:56:27.650
and willing to sit with
them while they're snotty,
00:56:27.684 --> 00:56:31.654
and sobbing, and hurting."
00:56:31.688 --> 00:56:33.656
It's not easy,
and it's exhausting,
00:56:33.690 --> 00:56:35.592
and it's scary,
and it is all of those things,
00:56:35.625 --> 00:56:39.429
but that is the shit
that can save lives.
00:56:39.462 --> 00:56:41.631
I've had friends who've
said they were suicidal.
00:56:41.664 --> 00:56:42.932
And what is the first
thing I'm thinking,
00:56:42.966 --> 00:56:44.467
I'm like, "Oh, my God!"
00:56:44.501 --> 00:56:46.669
As someone who's, like,
attempted and survived,
00:56:46.703 --> 00:56:48.471
I'm like, "We have to stop this.
00:56:48.505 --> 00:56:49.773
I have to save you."
00:56:49.806 --> 00:56:51.141
And then it's like, slow down.
00:56:51.174 --> 00:56:52.275
What would you have wanted?
00:56:52.308 --> 00:56:53.376
Not this.
00:56:53.409 --> 00:56:54.944
You wouldn't have wanted this.
00:56:54.978 --> 00:56:56.546
You know, just that
shared recognition
00:56:56.579 --> 00:56:58.681
that this sucks.
00:56:58.715 --> 00:57:01.518
That is so healing for people.
00:57:01.551 --> 00:57:03.553
Why do we not have,
in every community,
00:57:03.586 --> 00:57:05.155
a group of people
that meet regularly
00:57:05.188 --> 00:57:06.189
who struggle with suicide
00:57:06.222 --> 00:57:08.057
and try to help each other?
00:57:08.091 --> 00:57:09.692
Fear.
00:57:09.726 --> 00:57:10.860
It's the fear that, I feel,
00:57:10.894 --> 00:57:12.529
is really at the root
of the problem.
00:57:12.562 --> 00:57:14.497
Let's just let it out there.
00:57:14.531 --> 00:57:16.599
I actually attempted
eight years ago today.
00:57:16.633 --> 00:57:17.700
And I posted about it,
00:57:17.734 --> 00:57:19.803
because I post
about it every year.
00:57:19.836 --> 00:57:22.038
I mean, it's one way to get
people talking about it
00:57:22.071 --> 00:57:24.674
in a really honest way.
00:57:24.707 --> 00:57:25.742
We all live on Facebook now,
00:57:25.775 --> 00:57:27.477
we all live on Twitter,
we live on Vine,
00:57:27.510 --> 00:57:29.813
we live on Whisper,
wherever the hell we live,
00:57:29.846 --> 00:57:31.648
we have to be going
out there and disseminating
00:57:31.681 --> 00:57:34.984
the information in that way too.
00:57:35.018 --> 00:57:37.987
Clinicians aren't
there at 3:00am.
00:57:38.021 --> 00:57:41.224
We can use social media
to just ruin people's lives.
00:57:41.257 --> 00:57:43.693
(music)
00:57:43.726 --> 00:57:45.361
But we can also use social media
00:57:45.395 --> 00:57:47.630
to save people's lives.
00:57:47.664 --> 00:57:49.666
The community really
has to save each other.
00:57:49.699 --> 00:57:51.000
You're only ever gonna have
00:57:51.034 --> 00:57:53.036
so many mental health
professionals.
00:57:59.576 --> 00:58:03.112
Well, it is...
00:58:03.146 --> 00:58:08.751
May 13th, 5:30-or-so pm.
00:58:08.785 --> 00:58:12.288
I am gonna propose to Fel.
00:58:12.322 --> 00:58:14.691
This is the ring
00:58:14.724 --> 00:58:19.495
that I'm going to
steal her soul with.
00:58:19.529 --> 00:58:21.197
I hope.
00:58:21.231 --> 00:58:22.832
(music)
00:58:22.866 --> 00:58:25.802
When Fel and I
got to that point,
00:58:25.835 --> 00:58:27.704
where we were starting
to talk about
00:58:27.737 --> 00:58:31.007
getting married seriously...
00:58:31.040 --> 00:58:35.278
I knew almost immediately
that if anyone was the one,
00:58:35.311 --> 00:58:36.479
it was gonna be her.
00:58:36.512 --> 00:58:37.847
Happy New Year,
00:58:37.881 --> 00:58:39.382
you're all full of grapes!
00:58:39.415 --> 00:58:41.618
It's so nice to have
someone who will indulge
00:58:41.651 --> 00:58:44.787
and that cliché
romantic bullshit with me.
00:58:44.821 --> 00:58:46.689
So when I was
thinking about her ring,
00:58:46.723 --> 00:58:48.491
I knew that the text
that I wanted inside
00:58:48.524 --> 00:58:50.159
was "Dance with me."
00:58:50.193 --> 00:58:52.095
I'm confused about
how you turn that around.
00:58:52.128 --> 00:58:57.533
Well, this is confusing 'cause
maybe I'm drunk a little bit.
00:58:57.567 --> 00:59:00.536
Fel drinks prosecco
00:59:00.570 --> 00:59:03.106
with her ring, bitches!
00:59:03.139 --> 00:59:04.307
Blingin'.
00:59:04.340 --> 00:59:09.746
(music)
00:59:09.779 --> 00:59:13.716
The word "commit"
I feel like it's just a verb.
00:59:13.750 --> 00:59:15.551
I don't think it, um...
00:59:15.585 --> 00:59:18.454
My speech language
pathologist girlfriend
00:59:18.488 --> 00:59:20.223
tells me that we're
having arguments
00:59:20.256 --> 00:59:21.791
about semantics,
00:59:21.824 --> 00:59:23.927
and that semantics
aren't so important.
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:26.396
I think they're important,
I just... I don't agree
00:59:26.429 --> 00:59:31.668
that "commit" has the...
00:59:31.701 --> 00:59:34.771
damning implication
that you think it does.
00:59:34.804 --> 00:59:37.473
But you also say
"commit to marriage."
00:59:37.507 --> 00:59:39.342
It's a commitment.
00:59:39.375 --> 00:59:41.778
It's a final decision.
00:59:41.811 --> 00:59:44.380
The sixth grader
committed suicide last week.
00:59:44.414 --> 00:59:45.715
The man committed suicide.
00:59:45.748 --> 00:59:47.717
Another young rapper
is said to also have
00:59:47.750 --> 00:59:51.354
committed suicide just
after posting on Twitter.
00:59:51.387 --> 00:59:53.323
"Committed" is very colorful.
00:59:53.356 --> 00:59:55.558
It implies a crime or a sin.
00:59:55.591 --> 00:59:56.859
I personally think
that just clarity
00:59:56.893 --> 00:59:58.761
would be really great.
00:59:58.795 --> 01:00:01.631
"Commit" is not a clear word.
01:00:01.664 --> 01:00:02.699
Died by suicide.
01:00:02.732 --> 01:00:05.501
You cannot color that
in any way.
01:00:05.535 --> 01:00:06.869
I have to then change...
Rearrange the syntax
01:00:06.903 --> 01:00:08.805
of my entire sentence
01:00:08.838 --> 01:00:10.707
to say "died by suicide."
01:00:10.740 --> 01:00:12.208
What if I'm not
using the past tense.
01:00:12.241 --> 01:00:14.344
Sucks to be you.
01:00:14.377 --> 01:00:15.578
We should just get married here.
01:00:15.611 --> 01:00:17.246
It's totally free.
01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:18.748
You can be the husband.
01:00:18.781 --> 01:00:21.551
What says marital bliss
and commitment
01:00:21.584 --> 01:00:23.553
like compost piles?
01:00:23.586 --> 01:00:31.586
(music)
01:00:33.830 --> 01:00:38.501
Whatever Lola wants
01:00:38.534 --> 01:00:41.738
Lola gets
01:00:41.771 --> 01:00:45.842
You're no exception to the rule
01:00:45.875 --> 01:00:49.712
I'm irresistible, you fool
01:00:49.746 --> 01:00:51.314
It's only been recently
that I've been singing songs
01:00:51.347 --> 01:00:54.984
that actually aren't,
like, really depressing.
01:00:55.018 --> 01:00:57.653
Give in
01:00:57.687 --> 01:01:00.623
(music)
01:01:00.656 --> 01:01:03.760
Whatever Lola wants
01:01:03.793 --> 01:01:08.831
"Whatever Lola Wants"
by Sarah Vaughan...
01:01:08.865 --> 01:01:10.733
it's a little sensual,
01:01:10.767 --> 01:01:13.603
I need to get back in
the groove one day.
01:01:13.636 --> 01:01:18.274
Resign yourself, you're through
01:01:18.307 --> 01:01:19.809
Yeah.
01:01:19.842 --> 01:01:22.912
(cheers, applause)
01:01:22.945 --> 01:01:26.182
It's like family,
it's like everyone knows me
01:01:26.215 --> 01:01:28.484
by my stage name,
which is Vegas Cherry.
01:01:28.518 --> 01:01:30.887
They do not know
my name is Kelechi.
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:33.856
Um, you know, I don't know
01:01:33.890 --> 01:01:34.924
that I'd call it
a stripper name.
01:01:34.957 --> 01:01:37.794
It's totally a stripper name.
01:01:37.827 --> 01:01:39.629
It's a little bit of an escape.
01:01:39.662 --> 01:01:41.798
Like, I get to be
Vegas Cherry for a night,
01:01:41.831 --> 01:01:44.834
and she's confident,
and she's badass.
01:01:44.867 --> 01:01:48.104
I wanna bring that
into who I am as Kelechi.
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:53.543
Oh, my God,
it's so good to see you again.
01:01:53.576 --> 01:01:56.379
After the attempt,
I told my mom,
01:01:56.412 --> 01:01:59.248
I said, you know, "I really
want to go to California."
01:01:59.282 --> 01:02:01.851
She was just like,
"I'm here to support you, baby.
01:02:01.884 --> 01:02:03.052
What do you want?
You want to go to California?
01:02:03.086 --> 01:02:04.987
All right,
let's drive out there."
01:02:05.021 --> 01:02:06.289
You inspired me, I was like,
01:02:06.322 --> 01:02:07.857
"If Markeet'a's doing it,
01:02:07.890 --> 01:02:09.926
- I can tell my story."
- You can tell your story.
01:02:09.959 --> 01:02:11.394
Well, especially because
there's not a lot
01:02:11.427 --> 01:02:14.263
of black people
talking about this at all.
01:02:14.297 --> 01:02:18.167
Working in California in the
mental health recovery movement,
01:02:18.201 --> 01:02:20.002
they're saying things
like we should be involved
01:02:20.036 --> 01:02:21.971
in our treatment,
we should have a say,
01:02:22.004 --> 01:02:23.673
we should be at the table.
01:02:23.706 --> 01:02:26.175
I'm down with
all of those things.
01:02:26.209 --> 01:02:30.379
Once I told my story, African
American women came up to me,
01:02:30.413 --> 01:02:32.715
"My cousin, she attempted.
01:02:32.748 --> 01:02:34.417
My sister, she tried.
01:02:34.450 --> 01:02:37.987
Oh, I felt that way."
01:02:38.020 --> 01:02:40.256
So it's not that
it's not happening.
01:02:40.289 --> 01:02:44.026
We're just not talking about it
and I want to be out about it,
01:02:44.060 --> 01:02:47.497
because we need to
have the brown faces
01:02:47.530 --> 01:02:48.931
talking about this as well.
01:02:48.965 --> 01:02:51.567
Like, it's not just
a white issue.
01:02:51.601 --> 01:02:53.836
(music)
01:02:53.870 --> 01:02:57.473
Is suicide still
an option for you?
01:02:57.507 --> 01:02:59.208
I don't want it to be,
01:02:59.242 --> 01:03:02.645
and that's the only answer
I can really, honestly give you.
01:03:02.678 --> 01:03:05.414
I don't want it to be an option,
01:03:05.448 --> 01:03:09.285
but I'm not gonna say that
I don't think about it,
01:03:09.318 --> 01:03:11.254
'cause I do.
01:03:11.287 --> 01:03:18.161
(music)
01:03:18.194 --> 01:03:21.330
It doesn't feel sunshiny
and great right now,
01:03:21.364 --> 01:03:23.132
and that's honest.
01:03:23.166 --> 01:03:25.368
(music)
01:03:25.401 --> 01:03:29.872
I'm not lying about it and
I'm not pretending to be happy.
01:03:29.906 --> 01:03:32.808
I'm just doing it,
I don't feel it yet,
01:03:32.842 --> 01:03:35.044
but at least I'm doing it.
01:03:35.077 --> 01:03:37.847
(music)
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:40.683
For a while I thought
recovery meant never hearing
01:03:40.716 --> 01:03:43.052
a suicidal thought again,
and the moment
01:03:43.085 --> 01:03:45.821
I had a suicidal
thought I was like,
01:03:45.855 --> 01:03:50.059
"Oh my God,
what does this mean?"
01:03:50.092 --> 01:03:52.161
The thoughts,
they're still there.
01:03:52.195 --> 01:03:56.332
They come in when I'm sad,
but I have a plan around them.
01:03:56.365 --> 01:03:58.968
They're not gonna
frighten me into
01:03:59.001 --> 01:04:01.237
doing an action that,
01:04:01.270 --> 01:04:03.472
you know, would
take me out of here.
01:04:03.506 --> 01:04:06.809
(music)
01:04:06.842 --> 01:04:09.812
"Who would I miss
if you were gone?
01:04:09.845 --> 01:04:11.781
Don't send me out
into the cold snow,
01:04:11.814 --> 01:04:14.116
my body is no longer
equipped for that.
01:04:14.150 --> 01:04:18.020
The skin too thin and the gray
clouds press in closer.
01:04:18.054 --> 01:04:20.556
I know I cannot stay
in this room much longer.
01:04:20.590 --> 01:04:22.892
I can't breathe, baby.
01:04:22.925 --> 01:04:24.794
I have to get out."
01:04:24.827 --> 01:04:27.763
(music)
01:04:27.797 --> 01:04:29.899
Call for a pizza,
pizza well done.
01:04:29.932 --> 01:04:32.268
We have a $Free.99
pizza in the fridge.
01:04:32.301 --> 01:04:34.303
- We do.
- Yeah, that's the best kind.
01:04:34.337 --> 01:04:37.807
- Fine, then we're gonna have it.
- We're gonna have it.
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:39.742
I was clueless.
01:04:39.775 --> 01:04:42.311
I know that you had
had problems before,
01:04:42.345 --> 01:04:44.914
I know that you had felt
depressed in the past,
01:04:44.947 --> 01:04:47.183
but I did not know at
this particular time.
01:04:47.216 --> 01:04:50.119
So this was out of
the blue for me, yeah.
01:04:50.152 --> 01:04:53.055
- Yeah, you hid it well.
- Yeah.
01:04:53.089 --> 01:04:54.957
Mental health sucks, okay?
01:04:54.991 --> 01:04:57.593
They discharge her to me,
there was no counseling,
01:04:57.627 --> 01:05:00.963
there was no aftercare plan,
there was nothing.
01:05:00.997 --> 01:05:02.865
It was like, "Okay,
here's Kelechi,
01:05:02.898 --> 01:05:04.500
she's just tried
to commit suicide."
01:05:04.533 --> 01:05:06.802
There's no support,
there's no diagnosis.
01:05:06.836 --> 01:05:08.371
There's nothing.
01:05:08.404 --> 01:05:11.140
It took a long time
for me to come to grips
01:05:11.173 --> 01:05:15.478
with it's not my fault,
and it's a lot
01:05:15.511 --> 01:05:18.114
of releasing, letting go,
and being vulnerable.
01:05:18.147 --> 01:05:19.815
- So we'll start with these two?
- We'll start with these
01:05:19.849 --> 01:05:21.651
and see what happens.
01:05:21.684 --> 01:05:24.487
And then it might even have a
little thing that says pizza.
01:05:24.520 --> 01:05:26.122
- It does.
- Cool.
01:05:26.155 --> 01:05:29.091
- Pizza one.
- Pizza one.
01:05:29.125 --> 01:05:31.927
Even though you might've
felt angry or confused
01:05:31.961 --> 01:05:34.463
or sad or mad, you stood by me
01:05:34.497 --> 01:05:38.134
through some really
ugly, scary times,
01:05:38.167 --> 01:05:42.838
and you just said,
"What can I do?"
01:05:42.872 --> 01:05:46.509
I think that's part
of why I'm alive.
01:05:46.542 --> 01:05:49.812
So, thank you.
01:05:49.845 --> 01:05:51.881
- I love you.
- Love you too, Mom.
01:05:51.914 --> 01:05:59.914
(music)
01:06:02.458 --> 01:06:04.060
I'm not doing well.
01:06:04.093 --> 01:06:07.830
Uh, I quit smoking
a couple weeks ago.
01:06:07.863 --> 01:06:11.033
I don't even know how long ago
it's been at this point.
01:06:11.067 --> 01:06:15.838
But I find myself
wanting to hurt myself,
01:06:15.871 --> 01:06:18.507
and, um...
01:06:21.243 --> 01:06:25.581
I just don't really
know how to handle it.
01:06:25.614 --> 01:06:28.918
(music)
01:06:28.951 --> 01:06:30.686
I don't wanna kill myself,
01:06:30.720 --> 01:06:32.254
I just want it to hurt.
01:06:32.288 --> 01:06:36.225
These are irrational thoughts,
these are scary thoughts.
01:06:36.258 --> 01:06:39.095
Tried to hurt myself last week,
01:06:39.128 --> 01:06:40.863
but I don't keep
things in the house
01:06:40.896 --> 01:06:44.133
that I can really
hurt myself with.
01:06:44.166 --> 01:06:46.869
So I tried with a kitchen knife,
01:06:46.902 --> 01:06:51.407
and, uh, I thought
I could hide it,
01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:54.777
and then slipped and Fel saw it.
01:06:54.810 --> 01:06:57.480
(music)
01:06:57.513 --> 01:07:00.783
I lied straight to her face
when she asked me what it was.
01:07:00.816 --> 01:07:03.119
You can't help but think like,
"Well, why can't I
01:07:03.152 --> 01:07:04.987
of all people get through?"
01:07:05.020 --> 01:07:06.956
She was like,
"What do you need?"
01:07:06.989 --> 01:07:08.924
Like she wanted to kill me.
01:07:08.958 --> 01:07:10.593
She wanted to set
me on fire, yes?
01:07:10.626 --> 01:07:13.162
- Well, you were being a dick.
- Right, well, yeah.
01:07:13.195 --> 01:07:15.398
You would like
to point out that?
01:07:15.431 --> 01:07:17.967
You were like, "Oh, Fel
gets frustrated with me
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:19.969
when I'm depressed,"
it's like it's not that
01:07:20.002 --> 01:07:21.470
I get frustrated
because you're depressed,
01:07:21.504 --> 01:07:23.139
I get frustrated because
you're an asshole.
01:07:23.172 --> 01:07:25.074
But I want... I keep wanting
to tell you about
01:07:25.107 --> 01:07:28.177
this turning point,
this breakthrough.
01:07:28.210 --> 01:07:29.945
- Yeah.
- Yeah?
01:07:29.979 --> 01:07:32.948
So I'm a dick when I'm upset.
01:07:32.982 --> 01:07:35.384
It's true, it is true.
01:07:35.418 --> 01:07:38.888
The moment I'm hysterical and
then also feeling misunderstood
01:07:38.921 --> 01:07:42.758
I go some completely
different place.
01:07:42.792 --> 01:07:44.960
Like when I talk about it
with my therapist
01:07:44.994 --> 01:07:48.130
when shit's going wrong,
01:07:48.164 --> 01:07:50.166
it's not about my diagnosis,
01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:53.702
it's about how to manage
my symptoms, how to cope.
01:07:53.736 --> 01:07:55.738
(music)
01:07:55.771 --> 01:07:59.708
It's hard to like snap back into
happy-go-lucky girlfriend mode
01:07:59.742 --> 01:08:03.112
when I've been in caretaker
mode for a moment,
01:08:03.145 --> 01:08:05.114
and it's hard for me
to be like, "All right,
01:08:05.147 --> 01:08:07.716
I'm gonna feel
really hot right now
01:08:07.750 --> 01:08:11.987
and we're gonna go on a date."
01:08:12.021 --> 01:08:14.757
It just felt like
for the past few months
01:08:14.790 --> 01:08:18.794
we weren't really connecting
except for me to console her.
01:08:18.828 --> 01:08:26.769
(music)
01:08:26.802 --> 01:08:29.205
We're automatically at
higher risk for suicide
01:08:29.238 --> 01:08:31.974
just by virtue of
having attempted.
01:08:32.007 --> 01:08:35.511
So I knew that statistically,
01:08:35.544 --> 01:08:38.747
it was more likely that
the more stories I collected,
01:08:38.781 --> 01:08:42.818
the more people I met, somebody
was going to die eventually,
01:08:42.852 --> 01:08:45.621
and I would wake up every day
01:08:45.654 --> 01:08:49.825
hoping that that
wasn't gonna be the day.
01:08:49.859 --> 01:08:51.827
And then the day came.
01:08:51.861 --> 01:08:59.001
(music)
01:08:59.034 --> 01:09:00.836
I don't know, something about it
01:09:00.870 --> 01:09:05.107
just really threw me for a loop.
01:09:05.140 --> 01:09:07.276
Even though I knew
she was struggling,
01:09:07.309 --> 01:09:10.446
it's like I watched her
after she shared her story
01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:13.582
become this really
vocal advocate.
01:09:13.616 --> 01:09:17.186
(music)
01:09:17.219 --> 01:09:21.190
Last summer, I remember
feeling like,
01:09:21.223 --> 01:09:23.559
"I don't know why we
do any of what we do.
01:09:23.592 --> 01:09:27.563
This is fucking futile,
it's useless."
01:09:27.596 --> 01:09:29.932
And I felt that way for a while.
01:09:29.965 --> 01:09:31.834
(music)
01:09:31.867 --> 01:09:35.004
But I don't know if it's because
01:09:35.037 --> 01:09:39.074
Natalie let me know that she
wanted her story to be told
01:09:39.108 --> 01:09:42.511
or... I don't really know why,
01:09:42.545 --> 01:09:45.881
but I feel like
this has to be done.
01:09:45.915 --> 01:09:51.120
Like I've never had more resolve
01:09:51.153 --> 01:09:54.857
for the, the necessity
of this project.
01:09:54.890 --> 01:09:57.526
I know, I know that I
have to keep doing it
01:09:57.560 --> 01:10:00.462
until I absolutely
can't do it anymore.
01:10:00.496 --> 01:10:04.066
But what a way to find that out.
01:10:04.099 --> 01:10:12.099
(music)
01:10:15.177 --> 01:10:16.645
Well, you have some choices.
01:10:16.679 --> 01:10:18.814
You know, it can
just destroy you
01:10:18.847 --> 01:10:23.552
or you can try to
rebuild your own life.
01:10:23.586 --> 01:10:28.757
(music)
01:10:28.791 --> 01:10:32.895
How does it feel
to stay in his space?
01:10:32.928 --> 01:10:35.431
- I like it.
- Yeah.
01:10:35.464 --> 01:10:40.235
It helps normalize things
to have his stuff here,
01:10:40.269 --> 01:10:44.740
because it's sort
of like he's still here.
01:10:44.773 --> 01:10:47.943
Not in a denial kinda way,
but it is, you know,
01:10:47.977 --> 01:10:50.245
it's very connecting to me.
01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:53.582
Because I believe in
a lot of what he was.
01:10:53.616 --> 01:10:55.284
Yeah.
01:10:55.317 --> 01:10:58.220
He wouldn't want us to be
01:10:58.253 --> 01:11:01.290
destroyed over his absence,
01:11:01.323 --> 01:11:04.827
and so we try not
to be destroyed.
01:11:04.860 --> 01:11:12.860
(music)
01:11:17.539 --> 01:11:20.142
(indistinct remarks)
01:11:20.175 --> 01:11:26.248
(music)
01:11:26.281 --> 01:11:28.717
Every time I speak his name,
01:11:28.751 --> 01:11:32.287
it gives me a chance
to talk about him again.
01:11:32.321 --> 01:11:33.989
Sunrise, to the sunrise.
01:11:34.023 --> 01:11:36.158
So now I'm a facilitator
01:11:36.191 --> 01:11:40.296
in a suicide group.
01:11:40.329 --> 01:11:44.466
(music)
01:11:44.500 --> 01:11:49.038
We're here to release Brandon.
01:11:49.071 --> 01:11:52.675
Dear Brandon, we love you.
01:11:52.708 --> 01:11:55.044
We miss you.
01:11:55.077 --> 01:11:57.980
But now you're free.
01:11:58.013 --> 01:12:00.015
You're free and you're at peace.
01:12:00.049 --> 01:12:08.049
(music)
01:12:14.096 --> 01:12:16.865
(indistinct conversations)
01:12:16.899 --> 01:12:23.105
(music)
01:12:23.138 --> 01:12:27.042
Fel got a full-time faculty
position at Temple University.
01:12:27.076 --> 01:12:30.579
So we're moving to Philly
and that also means
01:12:30.612 --> 01:12:34.216
that I get to work on
Live Through This full-time.
01:12:34.249 --> 01:12:36.919
- Where's your dad?
- Hold on.
01:12:36.952 --> 01:12:39.855
(music)
01:12:39.888 --> 01:12:41.757
Found my dad.
01:12:41.790 --> 01:12:46.762
(music)
01:12:46.795 --> 01:12:48.897
I don't know, it's kinda scary.
01:12:48.931 --> 01:12:52.935
I have been known to
be bad at transitions.
01:12:52.968 --> 01:12:55.104
Put it down, put it down.
01:12:55.137 --> 01:12:57.973
- You can tell it's your dad...
- Put my father down.
01:12:58.006 --> 01:13:06.006
(music)
01:13:07.049 --> 01:13:09.985
(horn honking)
01:13:10.018 --> 01:13:12.287
Stop it, stop!
01:13:12.321 --> 01:13:14.656
Stop!
01:13:14.690 --> 01:13:22.690
(music)
01:13:26.602 --> 01:13:28.871
The only way we're really gonna
continue to move forward
01:13:28.904 --> 01:13:33.408
into the future of suicide
prevention is together.
01:13:33.442 --> 01:13:35.778
Thank you very much
for your time.
01:13:35.811 --> 01:13:38.814
(applause)
01:13:41.784 --> 01:13:43.919
I just need to take a break.
01:13:43.952 --> 01:13:47.756
Recharge myself and
come back swinging.
01:13:50.526 --> 01:13:52.294
Daddy, I miss you,
01:13:52.327 --> 01:13:56.031
I really want you to come back.
01:13:56.064 --> 01:13:58.167
I love you.
01:13:58.200 --> 01:14:01.804
(music)
01:14:01.837 --> 01:14:04.807
I have a family that's in the
prime of their life right now.
01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:07.709
My kids are at an age
they're never gonna be at.
01:14:07.743 --> 01:14:09.678
Something has to give.
01:14:09.711 --> 01:14:12.514
I still wanna be involved
in suicide prevention.
01:14:12.548 --> 01:14:15.517
But the balance is the
most difficult part.
01:14:15.551 --> 01:14:18.453
There is definitely
an incredible feeling
01:14:18.487 --> 01:14:21.256
of purpose when
I talk to people.
01:14:21.290 --> 01:14:23.225
(applause)
01:14:23.258 --> 01:14:26.762
He gets his talks, and
he writes fantastic things,
01:14:26.795 --> 01:14:29.131
and he has little girls
who adore him, I love him.
01:14:29.164 --> 01:14:32.868
I mean, it's... he's doing it.
01:14:32.901 --> 01:14:35.971
- Yeah.
- Where's your water?
01:14:36.004 --> 01:14:38.674
I'm gonna be
40 years old this year
01:14:38.707 --> 01:14:41.376
and I'm actually very,
very excited about that.
01:14:41.410 --> 01:14:44.546
I think it's awesome.
01:14:44.580 --> 01:14:46.315
There was a time in my life
when I never thought
01:14:46.348 --> 01:14:49.151
I'd make it that far.
01:14:49.184 --> 01:14:51.687
It's a scary subject.
01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:54.857
Nobody goes around saying,
"Hey, my kid committed suicide."
01:14:54.890 --> 01:14:57.693
You know, nobody does that.
01:14:57.726 --> 01:15:00.329
When my dad read the book,
he called me up
01:15:00.362 --> 01:15:03.632
and he said,
"I finished your book."
01:15:03.665 --> 01:15:06.335
I said, "Yeah," and he goes,
01:15:06.368 --> 01:15:08.203
"I'm sorry."
01:15:08.237 --> 01:15:10.772
It was the worst book I ever
read and it was the best book
01:15:10.806 --> 01:15:14.877
I ever read,
if that makes any sense.
01:15:14.910 --> 01:15:18.914
I'm just glad everything's
the way it is.
01:15:18.947 --> 01:15:22.251
(music)
01:15:22.284 --> 01:15:23.852
Now it's not just me.
01:15:23.886 --> 01:15:27.222
If I fall, it affects
my children,
01:15:27.256 --> 01:15:30.692
it affects my family.
01:15:30.726 --> 01:15:34.196
My four-year-old,
she has seen the book,
01:15:34.229 --> 01:15:38.233
and she was sitting on the floor
and she's holding the cover
01:15:38.267 --> 01:15:41.737
and she goes, "Daddy, you look
like you're in a dark cave."
01:15:41.770 --> 01:15:43.772
I said, "Yeah, it does
look like that."
01:15:43.805 --> 01:15:45.841
And she said, "You look sad."
01:15:45.874 --> 01:15:49.711
I said, "Yeah, but
I'm not there anymore."
01:15:49.745 --> 01:15:53.181
And she goes, "And you'll
never be there again."
01:15:53.215 --> 01:15:57.853
(music)
01:15:57.886 --> 01:16:00.789
I will never tell you that
01:16:00.822 --> 01:16:03.759
if I can do it
you can do it too,
01:16:03.792 --> 01:16:06.728
but I will tell you there was
a time when I truly believed
01:16:06.762 --> 01:16:08.730
that I could not do it.
01:16:08.764 --> 01:16:12.467
I believed with my heart
that I was done,
01:16:12.501 --> 01:16:15.137
and I was wrong.
01:16:15.170 --> 01:16:18.006
Okay, careful.
01:16:18.040 --> 01:16:20.842
(music)
01:16:20.876 --> 01:16:23.045
Live Through This has
given me a community.
01:16:23.078 --> 01:16:25.013
I didn't think that
I was looking for people
01:16:25.047 --> 01:16:27.382
who understood me, who
could look me in the eye
01:16:27.416 --> 01:16:29.184
and say, "Yeah, I get it,"
01:16:29.217 --> 01:16:31.887
but that's exactly
what I was looking for.
01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:34.022
(indistinct conversations)
01:16:34.056 --> 01:16:36.625
I wanna know what you're doing
now and what your journey's
01:16:36.658 --> 01:16:38.860
been like to get you here today.
01:16:38.894 --> 01:16:40.696
- Let's see.
- You've lived through it.
01:16:40.729 --> 01:16:42.064
- I've lived through it.
- So you're taking almost
01:16:42.097 --> 01:16:45.000
an expert advice there,
and they're following
01:16:45.033 --> 01:16:47.736
and getting involved with
you and your organization.
01:16:47.769 --> 01:16:50.872
- It's all about peers.
- Absolutely.
01:16:50.906 --> 01:16:52.574
Yes!
01:16:52.607 --> 01:16:54.876
(music)
01:16:54.910 --> 01:16:57.913
Dese'Rae, I am pleased
to be presenting you
01:16:57.946 --> 01:17:00.582
this Peer Leadership Award.
01:17:00.615 --> 01:17:03.085
(cheering)
01:17:03.118 --> 01:17:05.587
(applause)
01:17:05.620 --> 01:17:10.959
(music)
01:17:10.993 --> 01:17:13.595
Hi, folks, we wanna announce
the winner of the Paul Quinnett
01:17:13.628 --> 01:17:16.131
Lived Experience Writing Award.
01:17:16.164 --> 01:17:19.568
It's my great pleasure to give
this award to Dese'Rae Stage.
01:17:19.601 --> 01:17:22.070
(cheering)
01:17:22.104 --> 01:17:24.106
(applause)
01:17:24.139 --> 01:17:26.375
I got an award.
01:17:26.408 --> 01:17:29.745
I gave it to my mom.
01:17:29.778 --> 01:17:32.180
I was like, "Look,
I'm a gay leader."
01:17:32.214 --> 01:17:35.317
Thank you so much.
01:17:35.350 --> 01:17:39.421
They're invested in helping
each other continue to live,
01:17:39.454 --> 01:17:40.889
and even when
it feels impossible,
01:17:40.922 --> 01:17:42.624
there's a hand for them to hold.
01:17:42.657 --> 01:17:45.127
(music)
01:17:46.895 --> 01:17:48.930
It's the ultimate taboo.
01:17:48.964 --> 01:17:51.900
As human beings,
we're terrified of death,
01:17:51.933 --> 01:17:53.869
and people who are
suicidal remind us
01:17:53.902 --> 01:17:56.738
of that thing that
we wanna forget.
01:17:56.772 --> 01:17:59.741
The revolution in mental
health is happening
01:17:59.775 --> 01:18:01.910
and we are at the forefront.
01:18:01.943 --> 01:18:04.613
You are the people who
gave me a better future.
01:18:04.646 --> 01:18:08.650
You're the people I found when
I was told that I was all alone.
01:18:08.683 --> 01:18:10.185
When I say, "Split this,"
y'all say, "Rock."
01:18:10.218 --> 01:18:11.253
- Split this!
- Rock!
01:18:11.286 --> 01:18:12.754
- Split this!
- Rock!
01:18:12.788 --> 01:18:15.757
All right, everyone,
let's march.
01:18:15.791 --> 01:18:19.061
Activism and the relationships
that I formed
01:18:19.094 --> 01:18:20.896
with other people who understood
01:18:20.929 --> 01:18:23.465
what I had been through,
that was huge.
01:18:23.498 --> 01:18:25.200
Show me what democracy
looks like!
01:18:25.233 --> 01:18:28.770
This is what democracy
looks like!
01:18:28.804 --> 01:18:31.273
Non-violent action.
01:18:31.306 --> 01:18:33.108
I found my tribe.
01:18:33.141 --> 01:18:34.910
(music)
01:18:34.943 --> 01:18:37.712
For the first time in my life,
I didn't feel alone.
01:18:37.746 --> 01:18:41.083
I didn't feel like a freak.
01:18:41.116 --> 01:18:44.886
I sat on the steps
and I just howled.
01:18:44.920 --> 01:18:48.356
I just howled for that
person who, you know,
01:18:48.390 --> 01:18:50.992
saw no hope and, you know,
01:18:51.026 --> 01:18:54.563
just hurt herself over and over.
01:18:54.596 --> 01:18:58.867
We all have the things that
light a fire underneath us.
01:18:58.900 --> 01:19:03.405
I'm on mission to avenge
my parents' deaths.
01:19:03.438 --> 01:19:06.908
As hopeless as I was,
something inside me said
01:19:06.942 --> 01:19:09.077
I was deserving
of a better future.
01:19:09.111 --> 01:19:12.013
Psychiatry and the mental health
system were not going to give it
01:19:12.047 --> 01:19:15.050
to me, I would have
to find it on my own.
01:19:15.083 --> 01:19:17.352
Sorry, would you mind
grabbing this piece?
01:19:17.385 --> 01:19:19.020
Thank you.
01:19:19.054 --> 01:19:21.490
I would never say that
someone is beyond hope.
01:19:21.523 --> 01:19:23.291
I just don't think that way.
01:19:23.325 --> 01:19:26.194
I think there's people who've
been pushed to the point
01:19:26.228 --> 01:19:29.731
where they just don't
see any other option,
01:19:29.764 --> 01:19:32.534
and that's not their fault,
that's our fault
01:19:32.567 --> 01:19:34.603
as a society, collectively.
01:19:34.636 --> 01:19:37.939
(indistinct chanting)
01:19:37.973 --> 01:19:39.875
We need to stop looking
at the symptoms
01:19:39.908 --> 01:19:41.910
and look at the cause
and the root.
01:19:41.943 --> 01:19:45.580
So I'm excited, 'cause I feel
like the tide is turning.
01:19:45.614 --> 01:19:49.818
This is a wake-up call to
the suicide prevention field,
01:19:49.851 --> 01:19:52.821
to really the entire
medical establishment,
01:19:52.854 --> 01:19:54.856
to our lawmakers.
01:19:54.890 --> 01:19:58.326
We actually have solutions.
01:19:58.360 --> 01:20:00.962
When you bring in the
first person perspective
01:20:00.996 --> 01:20:04.132
of those of us who've been there
it brings life into it.
01:20:04.166 --> 01:20:07.636
We're the people who survived.
01:20:07.669 --> 01:20:10.105
We're changing a culture.
01:20:10.138 --> 01:20:11.773
We're changing the way
things have been done
01:20:11.806 --> 01:20:14.776
for years and years
and years and years.
01:20:14.809 --> 01:20:16.811
We aren't going anywhere.
01:20:16.845 --> 01:20:20.348
We can't change anything
if we disappear.
01:20:20.382 --> 01:20:22.150
(applause)
01:20:22.184 --> 01:20:24.853
We have hundreds of people
here right now
01:20:24.886 --> 01:20:26.621
all with one intention,
01:20:26.655 --> 01:20:29.624
to do everything they can
to prevent future suicides,
01:20:29.658 --> 01:20:31.493
and that's it.
01:20:31.526 --> 01:20:32.794
Okay, everybody look pretty.
01:20:32.827 --> 01:20:34.629
And that's us.
01:20:34.663 --> 01:20:36.198
There's others
all over the place.
01:20:36.231 --> 01:20:38.867
There's tons more people
we don't hear from
01:20:38.900 --> 01:20:40.569
that are doing the same thing.
01:20:40.602 --> 01:20:42.204
Raise your hands!
01:20:42.237 --> 01:20:45.173
(cheering)
01:20:45.207 --> 01:20:50.779
(music)
01:20:50.812 --> 01:20:53.782
(applause)
01:20:53.815 --> 01:20:55.784
(music)
01:20:55.817 --> 01:20:57.185
The more people
who are talking about
01:20:57.219 --> 01:21:00.088
their family's experiences,
their own experiences,
01:21:00.121 --> 01:21:03.558
the less secrecy,
the less ignorance.
01:21:03.592 --> 01:21:05.694
I think that's all to the good.
01:21:05.727 --> 01:21:10.932
(music)
01:21:10.966 --> 01:21:15.704
I felt a funeral in my brain.
01:21:15.737 --> 01:21:18.807
Just then, a plank
in reason broke
01:21:18.840 --> 01:21:22.110
and I fell down and down
01:21:22.143 --> 01:21:24.846
and hit a world at every plunge.
01:21:24.879 --> 01:21:27.816
I would love for anyone
who is close to suicide
01:21:27.849 --> 01:21:31.586
to contemplate the question of
whether things could get better
01:21:31.620 --> 01:21:33.288
and whether if things got better
01:21:33.321 --> 01:21:34.956
it would be worth
not doing this.
01:21:34.990 --> 01:21:37.692
And I think for most people,
the answer is yes.
01:21:37.726 --> 01:21:45.726
(music)
01:21:48.036 --> 01:21:50.038
What would you say to suicide
if it was a thing,
01:21:50.071 --> 01:21:51.406
if it was a person?
01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:53.208
I'd say, "Suck it!"
01:21:53.241 --> 01:21:57.379
Suck It Suicide is just
one giant happy accident
01:21:57.412 --> 01:22:00.181
about sad things.
01:22:00.215 --> 01:22:03.585
The services that we offer are
for survivors of suicide loss.
01:22:03.618 --> 01:22:07.022
Paying for funerals, memorial
services, clean-up services,
01:22:07.055 --> 01:22:09.190
making sure they have
resources that are available.
01:22:09.224 --> 01:22:11.559
You guys are making
a difference.
01:22:11.593 --> 01:22:13.895
(cheering)
01:22:13.928 --> 01:22:15.964
We could be saving
lives if we changed
01:22:15.997 --> 01:22:17.499
the way that we did things.
01:22:17.532 --> 01:22:20.602
It is criminal
at this point not to.
01:22:20.635 --> 01:22:23.204
These are some very
impressive teenagers.
01:22:23.238 --> 01:22:25.140
They shared personal
stories tonight
01:22:25.173 --> 01:22:27.676
about how suicide
has affected their lives.
01:22:27.709 --> 01:22:33.715
(music)
01:22:33.748 --> 01:22:35.483
When I started doing
these meetings on the Hill,
01:22:35.517 --> 01:22:38.353
you know, I had a nose ring
and I took off my nose ring,
01:22:38.386 --> 01:22:42.290
and you know, I don't dress like
this, but I feel like I have to
01:22:42.324 --> 01:22:44.859
sort of dress the part
being up on the Hill.
01:22:44.893 --> 01:22:48.863
(music)
01:22:48.897 --> 01:22:50.865
We're at a tipping point.
01:22:50.899 --> 01:22:52.567
The more voices will
bring more voices,
01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:54.536
and just like all the other
social movements, you know,
01:22:54.569 --> 01:22:55.870
we're probably gonna
look back in 20 years
01:22:55.904 --> 01:22:57.939
and think,
"Why was that so hard?"
01:22:57.972 --> 01:23:05.480
(music)
01:23:05.513 --> 01:23:08.817
(cheering)
01:23:08.850 --> 01:23:11.586
(indistinct shouting)
01:23:11.619 --> 01:23:19.619
(music)
01:23:20.595 --> 01:23:22.597
Political change, it has to
start from the grassroots.
01:23:22.630 --> 01:23:26.534
It's not just gonna
happen on its own.
01:23:26.568 --> 01:23:30.839
So I've been pushing for actual
real world legislation
01:23:30.872 --> 01:23:35.043
for people who've attempted
suicide or who are struggling.
01:23:35.076 --> 01:23:37.846
We have to get this
reflected in policies.
01:23:37.879 --> 01:23:44.853
(music)
01:23:44.886 --> 01:23:47.021
Today I stand up.
01:23:47.055 --> 01:23:49.657
I stand up as an attempt
survivor and as someone
01:23:49.691 --> 01:23:53.294
who wants to see and make
real lasting change happen.
01:23:53.328 --> 01:23:56.197
And I hope you'll stand with me,
because more and more
01:23:56.231 --> 01:23:58.333
it becomes clear to me
that I am never alone,
01:23:58.366 --> 01:24:01.970
that we are never, ever alone.
01:24:02.003 --> 01:24:04.472
(cheering)
01:24:04.506 --> 01:24:06.975
(applause)
01:24:07.008 --> 01:24:10.712
(music)
01:24:10.745 --> 01:24:15.150
We're not only taking
back our identities.
01:24:15.183 --> 01:24:17.786
We're taking control
over our narratives.
01:24:17.819 --> 01:24:25.819
(music)
01:24:38.706 --> 01:24:42.510
I'm eight years old and I'm
thinking about suicide.
01:24:42.544 --> 01:24:45.680
I'm thinking about life,
about death.
01:24:45.713 --> 01:24:48.516
More than anything
I'm thinking, "What if?
01:24:48.550 --> 01:24:51.453
What if I don't have to
live this life anymore?"
01:24:51.486 --> 01:24:58.626
(music)
01:24:58.660 --> 01:25:02.931
I'm 20 years old and
I'm thinking of suicide.
01:25:02.964 --> 01:25:06.434
I'm thinking how I spend more
time in a psychiatric hospital
01:25:06.468 --> 01:25:09.737
than I did in a classroom.
01:25:09.771 --> 01:25:12.674
More than anything,
I'm thinking, "What if?
01:25:12.707 --> 01:25:15.643
What if I don't have to
live this life anymore?"
01:25:15.677 --> 01:25:21.683
(music)
01:25:21.716 --> 01:25:25.687
Thirty-four years old and
I'm standing at an altar,
01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:27.722
and she is saying, "Yes.
01:25:27.755 --> 01:25:30.692
Yes, I will spend the rest
of my life with you."
01:25:30.725 --> 01:25:34.662
(music)
01:25:34.696 --> 01:25:36.397
When two people
collide like that
01:25:36.431 --> 01:25:39.501
it's a special kind
of magic that happens.
01:25:39.534 --> 01:25:42.437
Des and Fel are each
other's happiest accident.
01:25:42.470 --> 01:25:44.672
(music)
01:25:44.706 --> 01:25:47.842
I'm sitting on the edge
of a bed that I own
01:25:47.876 --> 01:25:49.711
in a house that I bought.
01:25:49.744 --> 01:25:52.747
In my arms is a baby girl,
01:25:52.780 --> 01:25:54.649
and I'm thinking, "What if?
01:25:54.682 --> 01:25:58.152
My God, what if I didn't
live this life?"
01:25:58.186 --> 01:26:02.824
I vow to be your family,
your friend, your love.
01:26:02.857 --> 01:26:04.859
I love you.
01:26:04.893 --> 01:26:08.029
(music)
01:26:08.062 --> 01:26:10.665
I will commit to
the rest of this life
01:26:10.698 --> 01:26:15.270
no matter how bad it hurts,
no matter how scary it gets.
01:26:15.303 --> 01:26:17.472
I never knew what
a healthy relationship
01:26:17.505 --> 01:26:19.707
looked like until I found you.
01:26:19.741 --> 01:26:22.143
I never knew what
normal felt like.
01:26:22.176 --> 01:26:27.482
(music)
01:26:27.515 --> 01:26:31.553
You are everything and I will
always love you no matter what.
01:26:31.586 --> 01:26:35.390
"What if I never
lived this life?"
01:26:35.423 --> 01:26:36.658
I'm standing in
front of you today
01:26:36.691 --> 01:26:39.127
and I'm asking myself
that question.
01:26:39.160 --> 01:26:41.729
What if I never lived that life?
01:26:41.763 --> 01:26:46.100
And I can tell you I am
so grateful that I have.
01:26:46.134 --> 01:26:48.236
Thank you very much.
01:26:48.269 --> 01:26:50.939
(applause)
01:26:50.972 --> 01:26:58.972
(music)
01:26:59.347 --> 01:27:03.718
I pronounce you bitches married.
01:27:03.751 --> 01:27:06.521
You may kiss the brides!
01:27:06.554 --> 01:27:09.557
(cheering)
01:27:09.591 --> 01:27:14.929
(music)
01:27:14.963 --> 01:27:18.366
I think we all have the
capacity to be saving lives.
01:27:18.399 --> 01:27:20.568
Why can't it stop?
01:27:20.602 --> 01:27:22.971
(cheering)
01:27:23.004 --> 01:27:24.672
(music)
01:27:24.706 --> 01:27:26.641
I want them to see
their stories,
01:27:26.674 --> 01:27:27.742
I want them to share
their stories,
01:27:27.775 --> 01:27:30.511
I want them to be proud
of their stories.
01:27:30.545 --> 01:27:38.419
(music)
01:27:38.453 --> 01:27:41.122
You know, it's a project
about suicide,
01:27:41.155 --> 01:27:43.124
but I'm focusing on life.
01:27:43.157 --> 01:27:51.157
(music)
01:28:02.410 --> 01:28:06.047
Went to a show down the road
01:28:06.080 --> 01:28:08.783
it looked just like a dust bowl
01:28:08.816 --> 01:28:12.286
Stood in the crowd
and felt alone
01:28:12.320 --> 01:28:15.623
Changed so much
that I don't know
01:28:15.657 --> 01:28:19.060
what anything is anymore
01:28:19.093 --> 01:28:22.163
Who I am or who I was before
01:28:22.196 --> 01:28:24.766
Here is a sneak peek.
01:28:24.799 --> 01:28:28.136
The first proof copy
came in today.
01:28:28.169 --> 01:28:30.972
It's called The Chicken
and The Tree.
01:28:31.005 --> 01:28:33.641
My very first children's book.
01:28:33.675 --> 01:28:35.910
(music)
01:28:35.943 --> 01:28:39.580
But I'm all right for now
01:28:39.614 --> 01:28:42.016
(music)
01:28:42.050 --> 01:28:49.424
I get in my head and then
I just can't get out
01:28:49.457 --> 01:28:53.061
When I fall behind
01:28:53.094 --> 01:28:57.465
you're all I need
01:28:57.498 --> 01:29:01.969
Will you wait for me?
01:29:02.003 --> 01:29:08.843
(music)
01:29:08.876 --> 01:29:12.246
It's what I'm feeling
all my life
01:29:12.280 --> 01:29:15.583
Christmas morning as a child
01:29:15.616 --> 01:29:18.820
Burning candles make a fire
01:29:18.853 --> 01:29:21.923
Me and my brother,
we were smiling
01:29:21.956 --> 01:29:25.893
It's no surprise
I fail to find that
01:29:25.927 --> 01:29:29.297
I think I've made it up
01:29:29.330 --> 01:29:32.600
(music)
01:29:32.633 --> 01:29:38.773
I'm not all right right now
01:29:38.806 --> 01:29:46.013
I got in my bed and now
I can't get back out
01:29:46.047 --> 01:29:49.984
When I fall behind
01:29:50.017 --> 01:29:53.488
I want to see
01:29:53.521 --> 01:29:55.656
I always feel like I'm,
like, in a life game
01:29:55.690 --> 01:29:59.794
of Frogger in which, like,
01:29:59.827 --> 01:30:03.464
at any time a pedestrian
will just roll up.
01:30:03.498 --> 01:30:06.667
They just assume
you will see them.
01:30:06.701 --> 01:30:08.970
It's definitely a partnership.
01:30:09.003 --> 01:30:17.003
(music)
01:30:21.716 --> 01:30:26.888
I woke up in a tailspin
01:30:26.921 --> 01:30:30.057
(music)
01:30:30.091 --> 01:30:32.693
And you said
01:30:32.727 --> 01:30:35.329
(music)
01:30:35.363 --> 01:30:41.636
Are you all right right now?
01:30:41.669 --> 01:30:48.643
If you're in your head,
I can help bring you out
01:30:48.676 --> 01:30:55.016
When you fall behind
I hope you fall on me
01:30:55.049 --> 01:30:58.653
(music)
01:30:58.686 --> 01:31:05.893
I'm all right for now
01:31:05.927 --> 01:31:08.996
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.
01:31:09.030 --> 01:31:12.099
I feel pretty bad, 'cause I had
intended to get arrested,
01:31:12.133 --> 01:31:15.770
but I have a dental emergency
that I need to take care of
01:31:15.803 --> 01:31:18.039
so I don't die of an abscess.
01:31:18.072 --> 01:31:21.475
So I figure I should just live
to get arrested another day.
01:31:21.509 --> 01:31:29.509
(music)
01:31:54.041 --> 01:31:56.410
(laughing)
01:31:56.444 --> 01:31:58.479
- What?
- Naturally.
01:31:58.512 --> 01:32:00.781
That's amazing.
01:32:00.815 --> 01:32:08.815
(music)