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It\'s in his dialect, dialect from Calabria.

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Anyhow, let me see if I can remember.

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I was born in December of 1891.

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My father died the following April.

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My mother had to come back
to New York City.

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She loved New York City.

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They opened a shoeshine parlor
at 23rd street in 7th Avenue.

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I got married in 1911 and--

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Was it true?

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You lost how many children
in those 6 years?

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Well not a-- I think it was about three.

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It\'s always in our life
to try to figure out how to make,

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I guess something
that I feel between you two,

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come along and for us.

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It\'s like a rare thing,

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something really wonderful
between a parent and a child.

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I\'m learning from just your presence

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and I think that\'s the thing
I learned most from you

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and something I didn\'t really have.

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I didn\'t really feel that closeness
with my mother,

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but I was always dreamt of it.
I really felt.

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Your mother is still living?

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Yes, she is.

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I don\'t know
if that will ever breakthrough.

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It will break through I think
with me through to other people,

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rather than back
into my history with her.

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I see.

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We were talking before that--

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It\'s time to change now.

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But then they waited
until their children were 14 years old

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so they could go
to the factory and work.

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Basically you were really very poor.

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We were poor.

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My mother used to take home sewing
and I was only 7 years old,

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but she showed me how to do
some of the sewing underpants.

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I used to sew, there\'s a little gusset

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in the middle of the man\'s pants,

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in the middle
over between the two legs

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and there\'s this little piece there
that they cannot sew that on the machine.

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It\'s got to be sewn by hand.

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She showed me
how to sew that little thing.

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We have to go and get the work
and bring it home.

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We lived in 27th street

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and we used to have to go
to 13th street in 6th avenue,

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and we carried the pants on our head.

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We used to bring them home
and sew them.

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Then we have brought them back
and then we bring more home.

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Then when I got older
and I had to go to school,

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and nobody could beat me in school.

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I had to be the first.

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I had to have the book on here
and sew at the same time.

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She got to wake me up
at five o\'clock in the morning to do that,

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then at eight o\'clock
of course I went to school.

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Then I finished school at 13 and a half,

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and she wanted me
to go to high school.

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I said \"No mama, I won\'t be able
to pass in high school like this.

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Getting up at five o\'clock
in the morning, I can\'t do it.

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I can\'t study like that.

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I\'ll go to work and you stop working.\"

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That\'s what happened

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and I worked for 48 hours
for $3 in a half a week.

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I always worked,
always worked all my life.

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Then I went to work
in a chocolate factory

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when I was 13 until when I was 14.

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They took me in and I worked there.

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I worked there, let me see.

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Now, I was there by--
We used the paste and the brush

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and then you took the label
and putting it on,

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and stack them up.

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Then that part of the job
was done till I was--

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Do you know that
we used to sew them by hand?

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When I first went work,
I got a three and a half--

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At that time I got $6

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and I asked them for
between 16 and 17, between that.

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It\'s not a factory, it\'s a wholesale
and we have already 12 stores.

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Every store on a Monday morning

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sends me in their reports
of what they sold last week

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and then on a Monday morning,
I get all those reports

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and I have to see
whether how much they sold,

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how many pairs,
and see if their inventory is right

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and see if they added them right.

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I make all the bills.

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I enter the bills,
we have a double-entry system,

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and I make all the checks out.

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I mail everything out.

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I open the mail in the morning

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and see what comes in,
what doesn\'t come in.

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Hello, it\'s not a quarter past yet,

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call him a little bit later then,

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because when I went home,

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he said he wasn\'t coming in this morning.

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Rona gets in about this time,
but he\'s not here.

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Okay, bye-bye.

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Good morning, everybody.

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Hi.

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When I work, I work.

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Whether it is for me or anybody else,
I do my work.

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I do not fool around.

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I barely saw them get up from
where I\'m sitting which is bad for me.

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I just work.

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I get in there
at eight o\'clock in the morning.

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Morning. How are you?

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Good morning.

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I eat my lunch at the desk.

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Good morning.

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Then I answer the phones still--
They don\'t pick up the phone.

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They must love you.

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Well, I\'ll show you
how much they love me.

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Over there, there\'s birthday cards.

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There they are.

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It\'s people like you
with your wonderful ways

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who adds so much pleasure
to ordinary days.

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Hello, how come you didn\'t call me?

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You just got up why?
Aren\'t you feeling well?

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Yes, well I thought,
look this is my favorite niece

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and she hasn\'t called me.

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I have a cold.

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I have a bad cold.

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Yes, oh, sure.

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I have to clean the house.

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I\'m at the bedroom
and at the dining room.

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I\'ll be in the living room in a few minutes.

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[chuckles]

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Yes.

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Okay, I just wanted to say hello to you.

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Bobby is all right?

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Oh, yes, yes.

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Well, it\'s going
to rain and snow tomorrow.

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Right.

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Well, give him my love
when you see him and love to you.

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Okay, then.

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Bye-bye.

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I did this in 1916.

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Did your mother teach you how to do it?

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Yes, my mother taught me how to crochet.

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Oh, but that was after you were married.
Wasn\'t it?

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1916.

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I can\'t imagine.

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Nice.

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Oops.

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On and off for a really long time.

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Like that.

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Do you have anything to do with using
and then not using birth control pills?

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No. Because I haven\'t used
the birth control pills in a long time.

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[?] ask you
when you start using it regularly?

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Well, when the first abortion,

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I felt almost like
almost a nine-month cycle.

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Afterwards, when I had contractions
about 9 months after.

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Really?

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That\'s bad.

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Does that felt like how being pregnant?

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You never felt anything physical.

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[?].

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Symptoms?

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The long term effects.

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It was very, very long and slow.

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That\'s okay.

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How about spleen four, lung nine,
kidney seven, and with a five?

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Four, three.

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Another possibility would be spleen four,

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kidney three, and bladder 58,
and three to five.

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I also would like maybe to do
a fire point of metal.

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To go like that and then kidney seven.

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All right then,
it has a lot to do with the blood.

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Why do you think like that?

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Because of the relationship
between the fire and metal.

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Let\'s see your pulse.

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It\'s really too bad
that it\'s so far to come here

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and that I have to go back so soon.

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I\'m going to try and get back
again here as soon as possible,

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bring the rest of the family next time.

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It\'s really a shame it\'s so far.

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The thing I think
that\'s really important is to--

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we got a way to keep them contacts.

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This time it\'d be very hard
for me to leave.

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Well, is that because of the dependency

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that people has built up
to your work with them?

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Well, actually,
I think of it in terms of myself,

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is that I like being here so much.

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Brian said yesterday
it was going to be hard for him too.

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I feel it\'s good though
that you came this time

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because now that we\'re started,
it will be a long way of continuing.

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I can\'t believe that I\'ve learned.

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It\'s been really a powerful thing.

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I\'d like to be able to continue
to work on people together

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and maybe to learn
some of your technique

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because yesterday
we really were working together,

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but it wasn\'t so much consciously.

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It was just intuitively, but to understand.

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In some ways after working with you,
I feel less defined.

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Coming here has made me
like re-see myself

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and I feel like I want to be
something of a particular sort,

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and it makes me appreciate you more
and alters the way I felt about myself.

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Got to figure out what to do it with it.

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I bet your sister must be pretty tired

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after been around here all this time.

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Yes, I think so.

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Well, let\'s get to work.

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I don\'t know.

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It\'s blowing a lot of oil.

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I\'m not sure.

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See to pull it head off.

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I got a line in a \'62 Chevy

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which probably better
for Amber, Leaf, and I

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because there\'d be
a more space in the back

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and we can try to sleep
part of the time and everything.

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Let\'s see what else I can check out
and what I have to do.

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It needs too quite a bit.

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How long you\'re going to be going for?

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\'62 is pretty old car you know.

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Well, it\'s in pretty good shape.
I don\'t know.

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We\'ve been pretty restless.

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I think we\'re maybe been
on a road for a while.

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Maybe stop in medium-sized cities,
see what\'s going on.

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My mom and dad, it was really funny
because I wasn\'t really-

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I was hoping to be able
to talk to them so much.

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On and off, I don\'t know.

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I feel sometimes like I could really--

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Aw, he bit me.

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What can you do?

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I haven\'t talked.

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I can take mother shopping,
but I can\'t do too much else.

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Well, I don\'t know.

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Dad and I have gone for walks some time.

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Martha said when she got homesick,

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one of the thing
she miss the most was Nick.

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I never felt it that way.

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I\'ve decided that\'s why
people keep on having children

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because they\'re so cute
when they\'re little.

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Just like puppies.

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Did you know when mother
was having this thing on her head

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and she has some little funny thing
she\'s having removed?

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I don\'t know. She never said it.

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Well, Martha told me,
so then I faced mother with it,

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because it seems to me,
I never get told on anything until last.

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Now you\'re last.

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Well, I guess it\'s a nothing,
but she\'s having it done.

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Yes. We got to get going.

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You should leave us a picture of you.

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Do you have a picture of yourself?

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Do you, really?

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Not with me. Not right now.

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Will you send me your picture?
Sure.

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Well, say, bye-bye, Nick.

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Go and do your thing.

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Got to kick Willis in the stomach.

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Oh, Nick.

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See you, Anne.
All right. Well, take care.

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Say maybe I\'ll write you a letter, but--

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Yes, it was okay.

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You know what,
it just stayed on the surface

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and I\'d really like to get into
talking more with her

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and being able to spend some time.

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I know she would too.

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We both seem to shy away from it.

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Just ends up like a polite visit.

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Yes, really.

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Yes, it\'s really hard
when you\'re just passing through

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isolated incidents and all that stuff.

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Yes, I know that.

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It\'s just really frustrating.

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It\'s the same as staying at my parents\'.

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It\'s the same way
because I\'d really like to be able

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to spend time talking with them,
and we\'re not going to live forever.

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You\'d really like to think

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that you could avoid the traps
that instantly, you\'d fall into.

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I just get bummed out or angry,
or just real sad.

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It ends up feeling like a defeat.

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You\'d like to think that you could
just have visits people like that,

00:17:17.717 --> 00:17:20.880
like old friends
instead of this whole parental trip.

00:17:21.104 --> 00:17:22.816
I\'ve been thinking a lot about that.

00:17:22.912 --> 00:17:25.978
Just like you, trying to get back
to the roots a little bit.

00:17:26.384 --> 00:17:28.602
I\'ve really been wondering.

00:17:29.242 --> 00:17:30.746
It changes a lot.

00:17:31.637 --> 00:17:34.325
I haven\'t seen my folks
in two or three years.

00:17:34.666 --> 00:17:37.360
I just gotten out of jail
for a demonstration.

00:17:37.477 --> 00:17:39.578
God, my old man was so furious.

00:17:39.845 --> 00:17:40.901
It\'s incredible.

00:17:41.018 --> 00:17:42.250
He took a swing at me, right?

00:17:42.330 --> 00:17:43.557
I ducked.

00:17:43.765 --> 00:17:45.616
He hit a wall and he broke two fingers.

00:17:45.717 --> 00:17:47.146
Really?

00:17:47.696 --> 00:17:51.328
What differs is I laughed like crazy
about it then.

00:17:52.197 --> 00:17:53.589
Whatever happened to Jesse?

00:17:53.669 --> 00:17:54.922
Jesse.

00:17:55.082 --> 00:17:57.973
He\'s still into junk on and off.

00:17:58.528 --> 00:18:02.117
I see him every once in a while
when he comes passing through town

00:18:02.282 --> 00:18:04.762
and hit me up
for a couple of dollars here and there.

00:18:04.885 --> 00:18:06.496
Yes, that\'s for sure.
I don\'t know.

00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:11.973
Well, I am going to be a grandmother.

00:18:15.493 --> 00:18:17.914
That\'s what I dream, my dream.

00:18:21.914 --> 00:18:25.616
The things these kids
have lived through, we\'ve lived through.

00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:29.216
It\'s about 20 minutes.

00:18:33.312 --> 00:18:36.565
Well, Karen, you live your life.

00:18:37.962 --> 00:18:39.824
[?].

00:18:45.685 --> 00:18:47.002
I don\'t miss the kids.

00:18:47.248 --> 00:18:50.565
I talk with Alan a lot
and he really seemed fine.

00:18:51.733 --> 00:18:54.485
That\'s completely different now
since I moved.

00:18:56.661 --> 00:18:58.517
We\'re going to miss them as people.

00:18:58.752 --> 00:19:03.920
I miss seeing them,
but I don\'t miss being their mother.

00:19:05.429 --> 00:19:07.157
I could never make that division.

00:19:08.656 --> 00:19:10.288
I could never make that division

00:19:10.384 --> 00:19:14.288
between being the mother of the children
and the person who knows the children.

00:19:14.384 --> 00:19:16.698
I could never divide myself that way.

00:19:18.181 --> 00:19:20.010
Anyway, I spoke to Karen.

00:19:20.394 --> 00:19:22.416
Okay. You want to try some breathing?

00:19:22.789 --> 00:19:24.090
Yes.

00:19:25.760 --> 00:19:27.722
That last time was really good.

00:19:29.989 --> 00:19:36.864
[background noise]

00:19:40.848 --> 00:19:42.714
That\'s good. That\'s good.

00:19:42.901 --> 00:19:44.714
Now tense this arm up again,

00:19:45.274 --> 00:19:47.189
tense up, tense up.

00:19:47.376 --> 00:19:49.034
Okay. It\'s still tight.

00:19:49.514 --> 00:19:51.030
Still very tight.

00:19:57.909 --> 00:20:00.730
Sometimes I think I\'m really crazy
to trust it.

00:20:01.630 --> 00:20:04.096
Come is come, and come is go.

00:20:05.616 --> 00:20:07.562
Here I am putting all this trust here.

00:20:08.384 --> 00:20:12.944
Communities that really make it possible
to help each other.

00:20:14.181 --> 00:20:18.277
Like last year, the whole house
went to our place in the country together.

00:20:18.778 --> 00:20:20.757
It\'s always really good to be there.

00:20:21.130 --> 00:20:23.600
Calm and beautiful.
We were sitting by the creek.

00:20:23.968 --> 00:20:25.957
Mariette was looking at us all,

00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:31.008
and she just said that she really felt
a sense of the future in all of us

00:20:31.600 --> 00:20:33.802
and she felt it in the things that we did,

00:20:33.904 --> 00:20:36.341
the way we lived our lives
we were carrying it out.

00:20:36.661 --> 00:20:38.074
10.

00:20:41.226 --> 00:20:42.496
15.

00:20:46.154 --> 00:20:47.840
20.

00:20:48.016 --> 00:20:49.744
Good.

00:20:50.192 --> 00:20:51.861
[rapid breathing]

00:20:52.032 --> 00:20:53.296
Getting stronger.

00:20:53.498 --> 00:20:59.056
[rapid breathing]

00:21:03.002 --> 00:21:04.405
Stronger.

00:21:09.018 --> 00:21:10.533
Keep it up [?].

00:21:13.061 --> 00:21:15.232
Keep it up, stronger.

00:21:20.970 --> 00:21:22.720
So much fear before you came.

00:21:23.061 --> 00:21:24.416
I really wanted to come.

00:21:24.517 --> 00:21:28.650
Call me,
I hope I can make it, I hope I can.

00:21:28.986 --> 00:21:35.162
[background noise]

00:21:42.850 --> 00:21:45.008
[?] I really want to come.

00:21:56.288 --> 00:21:58.144
I want to give you one of these, Karen.

00:22:03.157 --> 00:22:04.970
I don\'t know which one you want.

00:22:07.754 --> 00:22:09.226
Oh, it\'s not finished.

00:22:11.242 --> 00:22:13.472
It turns into her life.

00:22:14.442 --> 00:22:16.736
These people live their lives.

00:22:17.738 --> 00:22:21.562
I\'m really beginning to wonder
where my life is at.

00:22:23.312 --> 00:22:25.397
Helen, you\'re always telling me stories

00:22:25.504 --> 00:22:26.784
and you told me that story

00:22:26.890 --> 00:22:29.706
about walking along the path
in the Vietnamese village

00:22:29.802 --> 00:22:33.173
and you had to stay on the path
because there were unexploded bombs.

00:22:33.269 --> 00:22:36.842
I really try and think about
what it\'s like to be in a village.

00:22:37.317 --> 00:22:38.842
In any village.

00:22:39.189 --> 00:22:42.864
Much less a village
where the bombs are about to explode.

00:22:43.600 --> 00:22:45.632
That\'s a finer way to show that.

00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:56.170
Joanna, last year when I was a new [?]

00:22:56.970 --> 00:22:58.352
there were terrible floods.

00:22:58.458 --> 00:23:00.352
They were awful, just terrible.

00:23:00.464 --> 00:23:07.221
Farms were wiped out for miles,
and people had to work together.

00:23:07.696 --> 00:23:10.037
They had to, and they did.

00:23:11.280 --> 00:23:12.544
They had to build dikes,

00:23:12.666 --> 00:23:15.658
they had to find blankets,
they had to feed people.

00:23:16.053 --> 00:23:19.072
Men and women and kids did that.

00:23:19.173 --> 00:23:24.480
Old people, the big shots,
and the little dirt farmers, everyone.

00:23:25.621 --> 00:23:28.304
No one asked you who you were,
it was great.

00:23:29.397 --> 00:23:32.037
It was like home for me.

00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:36.938
We ate together. We liked each other.

00:23:38.992 --> 00:23:43.130
At that time
I had a lot of trouble in my life.

00:23:43.226 --> 00:23:45.066
I was having a lot of problems.

00:23:46.064 --> 00:23:49.456
I stopped thinking about them,
I stopped thinking about myself.

00:23:51.706 --> 00:23:53.978
I think it was like that for everybody.

00:23:55.962 --> 00:23:59.994
That\'s what we brought back
from Vietnam.

00:24:03.781 --> 00:24:07.274
It\'s funny I\'ve given you two examples
and they\'re both disasters.

00:24:09.392 --> 00:24:12.320
Do we need disasters
for people to come together?

00:24:13.221 --> 00:24:17.376
The thing about you
and disasters is you tell these stories,

00:24:17.594 --> 00:24:20.576
and they don\'t sound like disasters at all.

00:24:20.794 --> 00:24:22.576
They really sound very romantic.

00:24:23.664 --> 00:24:25.242
Okay, romantic.

00:24:25.466 --> 00:24:27.242
They\'re romantic.

00:24:27.781 --> 00:24:29.008
Fine, okay.

00:24:29.221 --> 00:24:31.973
Romantic can mean one of two things.

00:24:32.064 --> 00:24:37.456
It can mean silly, or it can mean hopeful
and I say it means hopeful, okay?

00:24:37.674 --> 00:24:40.122
[chuckles]

00:24:40.592 --> 00:24:43.685
The baby is resting on her sciatic nerve.

00:24:43.962 --> 00:24:46.048
You did that to me.
No. [laughs]

00:24:46.149 --> 00:24:47.952
You did.

00:24:48.101 --> 00:24:52.426
One day I woke up and I couldn\'t move
and that\'s what you were doing.

00:24:52.586 --> 00:24:54.234
You were sitting right on my nerve.

00:24:55.338 --> 00:24:56.976
I just didn\'t know what to do

00:24:57.077 --> 00:24:59.514
so I went to the movies
for about eight hours.

00:25:00.693 --> 00:25:02.181
I spoke with Karen.

00:25:03.381 --> 00:25:04.789
We had this conversation.

00:25:07.530 --> 00:25:14.378
Two sisters, two mothers,
two daughters, shifting.

00:25:15.632 --> 00:25:17.498
We ended up mostly talking about you.

00:25:18.026 --> 00:25:21.413
What could be interesting
all these years about me?

00:25:24.357 --> 00:25:26.261
Did he use to talk about me a lot?

00:25:27.653 --> 00:25:29.045
We did a lot.

00:25:29.146 --> 00:25:33.696
What we didn\'t know, we made it up
but we talked a lot anyway.

00:25:33.914 --> 00:25:35.994
I didn\'t have a baby, no.

00:25:36.320 --> 00:25:37.808
It wasn\'t an easy choice.

00:25:38.192 --> 00:25:39.914
I guess the thing that\'s a lot harder

00:25:40.021 --> 00:25:42.645
because I feel like
I had to make that choice myself,

00:25:42.746 --> 00:25:43.872
and I get really scared.

00:25:43.984 --> 00:25:47.728
Scared at the thought of Larry and I
trapped together as a couple.

00:25:47.936 --> 00:25:51.050
And more dependent than ever
because we have a little child.

00:25:51.226 --> 00:25:54.032
I think, if that was the only choice I have,

00:25:54.229 --> 00:25:56.608
that I would have decided
to have an abortion.

00:25:59.818 --> 00:26:02.405
I really feel like
we have something different here.

00:26:02.485 --> 00:26:03.946
It really feels like a family.

00:26:04.112 --> 00:26:06.298
We really worked
through a lot of problems,

00:26:06.496 --> 00:26:09.450
and there\'s a real feeling
that we\'re going to stay together.

00:26:09.530 --> 00:26:11.520
I think it has a lot to do with the kids.

00:26:11.696 --> 00:26:15.893
Karen\'s really wondering
about why she\'s having this baby.

00:26:17.120 --> 00:26:24.128
She\'s afraid that she\'s having it
because she\'s afraid of being alone.

00:26:26.170 --> 00:26:27.450
Maybe it\'s true.

00:26:29.173 --> 00:26:33.573
She may have to live through that
to know about that.

00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:38.458
We didn\'t ask ourselves those questions.

00:26:39.280 --> 00:26:47.418
I say, \"we\", well, but I certainly didn\'t,
I loved having you two.

00:26:48.229 --> 00:26:53.120
Being pregnant has really made me
think about how I\'m a mother a lot.

00:26:54.309 --> 00:26:58.133
I spent a lot of my recent years
trying to get away from her.

00:26:59.205 --> 00:27:02.176
Trying to get away from the trips
that I thought she put on me,

00:27:02.405 --> 00:27:04.176
and I\'m glad I\'ve gone through that,

00:27:05.962 --> 00:27:09.450
but in the process I didn\'t really see
what she had to offer me.

00:27:10.272 --> 00:27:14.048
Now that I\'m pregnant,
I really feel the first connection

00:27:14.138 --> 00:27:16.016
that I felt with her in a long time.

00:27:16.138 --> 00:27:19.386
Karen\'s father was overseas at the time.

00:27:22.618 --> 00:27:25.034
Whatever the problem with your father was,

00:27:25.280 --> 00:27:30.288
I don\'t know but I loved the idea
of having you kids

00:27:30.458 --> 00:27:34.757
and I loved being pregnant,
with the sciatic nerve.

00:27:34.906 --> 00:27:37.664
I loved having you.

00:27:39.504 --> 00:27:41.450
That\'s why we were talking about you.

00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:44.170
Yes just trying to imagine

00:27:44.277 --> 00:27:48.640
what it was like for you
to have children, to have us.

00:27:49.781 --> 00:27:52.629
We ask so many questions now.

00:27:53.008 --> 00:27:58.096
Now I really want to understand
what it was like for her.

00:27:58.304 --> 00:28:00.144
It\'s different.

00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.082
She got married when she was 20,
they didn\'t have any money.

00:28:03.168 --> 00:28:05.082
They didn\'t talk to each other very much,

00:28:05.392 --> 00:28:08.421
and my father took her to the city
as soon as they got married

00:28:08.512 --> 00:28:10.656
so she didn\'t have any friends either.

00:28:11.450 --> 00:28:16.352
Then like a month after I was born,
he was sent to the Pacific,

00:28:17.770 --> 00:28:19.738
and a year later he was dead.

00:28:21.658 --> 00:28:26.149
I keep trying to know what it was like
for my mother to be alone,

00:28:28.576 --> 00:28:30.709
to have to start a life of her own.

00:28:30.885 --> 00:28:35.312
To create this life,
and raise me and my sister Elizabeth.

00:28:39.248 --> 00:28:41.184
I can\'t imagine the terror of that.

00:28:43.712 --> 00:28:45.621
Well, you kids are more truthful.

00:28:45.728 --> 00:28:50.730
You\'re in better relation
to your feelings, really.

00:28:51.002 --> 00:28:52.416
You trust them.

00:28:55.482 --> 00:28:58.613
There\'s more leeway
in this society for you,

00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:04.917
but for me, there was such a gap
between what I really felt

00:29:05.301 --> 00:29:07.424
and what I thought as a woman.

00:29:07.578 --> 00:29:14.522
I thought I ought to feel,
that I could\'ve gone crazy,

00:29:14.762 --> 00:29:16.938
and a lot of my contemporaries did.

00:29:17.210 --> 00:29:22.197
That craziness, sometimes
when I try to explain to people,

00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.445
this choice that I made
to leave my children,

00:29:27.290 --> 00:29:28.960
they just can\'t understand.

00:29:29.098 --> 00:29:30.896
There\'s no way they can hear it.

00:29:31.125 --> 00:29:36.272
To be truthful, I have some
of that wall in me too about that,

00:29:39.738 --> 00:29:43.168
but I could never have said
the things you said.

00:29:43.328 --> 00:29:46.000
I couldn\'t have even thought them,

00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:50.261
but you were brought up differently.

00:29:50.576 --> 00:29:51.984
By me.

00:29:53.146 --> 00:29:57.381
To have your feelings percolate up.

00:29:58.133 --> 00:30:01.269
What happens to me as I sit here,
all day long,

00:30:01.370 --> 00:30:04.368
and I look at your footage,
and I listen to your stories

00:30:04.592 --> 00:30:06.608
and then I get up and I go home.

00:30:07.008 --> 00:30:10.096
You know how I live, I\'m not rich.

00:30:10.256 --> 00:30:12.437
I know a lot of people would love more stuff,

00:30:12.549 --> 00:30:14.048
but I open the door and I look in.

00:30:14.144 --> 00:30:17.605
I see the books and I see the records
and I see my clothes

00:30:17.712 --> 00:30:21.589
and I see my jewelry,
my cosmetics, and the whole thing

00:30:21.738 --> 00:30:24.485
and all my friends are living like that

00:30:24.592 --> 00:30:26.986
and they\'re very preoccupied
with these things,

00:30:27.093 --> 00:30:29.690
and they\'re living
these absolutely separate lives.

00:30:29.781 --> 00:30:33.402
I\'m really beginning to get,
I\'m getting, I\'m afraid.

00:30:34.074 --> 00:30:35.866
Well, you\'re right to be frightened.

00:30:36.314 --> 00:30:38.672
I don\'t think
there\'s anything more frightening

00:30:38.896 --> 00:30:41.610
than a private selfish life.

00:30:43.034 --> 00:30:49.109
If my kids were to live lives like that,
I\'d be frightened for them.

00:30:49.861 --> 00:30:51.354
See?
Yes.

00:30:52.645 --> 00:30:55.664
[?]

00:31:01.765 --> 00:31:04.533
It\'s only really in the last two years

00:31:04.906 --> 00:31:08.848
that I\'ve allowed myself
to come close to certain truths.

00:31:09.322 --> 00:31:12.773
I think I owe some of that
really to you and Karen.

00:31:20.277 --> 00:31:24.037
After Karen has her baby,
we should go, the three of us,

00:31:24.629 --> 00:31:29.728
and the kids and the dogs and nobody else,

00:31:31.632 --> 00:31:34.986
and just spend some time together
here at my cabin,

00:31:35.482 --> 00:31:37.706
stay together for a while.

00:31:39.856 --> 00:31:41.664
That\'d be nice.

00:31:41.978 --> 00:31:43.818
But I have to finish my film.

00:31:44.042 --> 00:31:45.701
It\'s an obsession.

00:31:45.978 --> 00:31:48.789
You\'re the one I learned patience from.

00:31:49.050 --> 00:31:51.898
That\'s patience,
that\'s what you learned from me.

00:31:52.453 --> 00:31:54.181
I have too much patience.

00:31:56.005 --> 00:32:02.021
[background noise]

00:33:33.909 --> 00:33:38.325
Oh, I\'m glad to see you,
I am so glad to see you.

00:33:39.173 --> 00:33:41.594
Let me get this bag and put it back here.

00:33:45.402 --> 00:33:48.197
You\'re looking terrific, you really are.

00:33:50.858 --> 00:33:52.885
You must have about a thousand things

00:33:52.981 --> 00:33:55.280
that are just ready to explode
outside of you,

00:33:55.376 --> 00:33:56.858
just getting out and stuff.

00:34:00.293 --> 00:34:01.498
[?]

00:34:01.717 --> 00:34:05.450
No, it really took a long time
to process me out of there.

00:34:06.869 --> 00:34:09.541
Everybody, all of us
are so glad that you\'re out.

00:34:10.405 --> 00:34:14.448
Well, you remember the dinners
that we used to have?

00:34:15.514 --> 00:34:17.280
Well, we thought we\'d have one tonight,

00:34:17.381 --> 00:34:21.269
everybody come over to my house
and we have a dinner.

00:34:23.232 --> 00:34:24.618
We\'ll see.

00:34:28.021 --> 00:34:30.362
I think I have to go very slow.

00:34:31.258 --> 00:34:35.082
I\'m glad you came, but I don\'t know

00:34:35.184 --> 00:34:37.322
if I can see a lot of other people right away,

00:34:38.597 --> 00:34:40.149
even friends, it doesn\'t matter.

00:34:41.376 --> 00:34:43.669
Maybe you\'re going
to feel different tonight

00:34:43.754 --> 00:34:45.669
when you feel all of this around you.

00:34:47.834 --> 00:34:49.706
You probably want to split, don\'t you?

00:34:49.877 --> 00:34:51.664
Let\'s get out of here.

00:34:52.464 --> 00:34:55.509
There\'s something
I\'ve been thinking about a lot,

00:34:56.698 --> 00:34:59.072
about whether you feel
resentful towards me

00:34:59.189 --> 00:35:02.400
or towards the rest of us
because you were the one that did time?

00:35:02.570 --> 00:35:03.936
I don\'t know.

00:35:04.730 --> 00:35:06.554
I feel good about what we did.

00:35:09.125 --> 00:35:12.213
We all helped a lot of deserters
get out of the country.

00:35:14.085 --> 00:35:16.186
They were good people, I liked them.

00:35:18.629 --> 00:35:22.037
I\'m glad that we did it too
and I liked them a lot, too,

00:35:22.304 --> 00:35:27.712
but when I think if it had been me,

00:35:28.522 --> 00:35:30.586
instead of having a baby,

00:35:30.896 --> 00:35:35.125
I\'d gone to jail and I\'d sat there
and been alone

00:35:35.274 --> 00:35:37.648
and watch my friends drift away,

00:35:37.952 --> 00:35:41.450
and watch the whole context
that it didn\'t just melt away.

00:35:42.106 --> 00:35:45.029
I think I would feel really pissy
about it right now.

00:35:46.202 --> 00:35:49.696
I just want you to feel like it\'s okay,

00:35:49.824 --> 00:35:53.178
that at least I understand
if that\'s how you feel.

00:35:53.397 --> 00:35:55.061
I did feel angry.

00:35:56.064 --> 00:35:59.925
They all seem to feel guilty
that I was in and they were out.

00:36:04.741 --> 00:36:07.696
They didn\'t come to see me
because they were embarrassed

00:36:08.325 --> 00:36:10.384
and because they didn\'t know what to say.

00:36:11.397 --> 00:36:14.149
I don\'t know if there\'s any way
for you to feel it right now,

00:36:14.272 --> 00:36:15.893
feel it coming from me,

00:36:16.160 --> 00:36:19.013
but there\'s a whole lot of love
that keeps this together.

00:36:20.373 --> 00:36:22.592
The whole time that you were in jail,

00:36:22.949 --> 00:36:25.285
things have fallen apart
on the outside too.

00:36:26.682 --> 00:36:28.618
We didn\'t have any organizations left

00:36:28.714 --> 00:36:31.024
but there was something
that held us together,

00:36:31.114 --> 00:36:34.538
that had brought us together
in the first place and held us together.

00:36:34.784 --> 00:36:38.992
I just hope that tonight you can feel
the love is between us.

00:36:40.010 --> 00:36:46.037
[background noise]

00:37:17.488 --> 00:37:21.098
In fact, the last time that you saw me
I was still pregnant,

00:37:22.421 --> 00:37:26.085
but I\'ve been so lucky,
I have grown up with Obe,

00:37:26.554 --> 00:37:28.677
you\'ve been in jail that whole time.

00:37:31.890 --> 00:37:34.858
I\'m sorry, that had to happen,
that you\'ve been away for so long,

00:37:34.949 --> 00:37:36.442
and I have to come back to this.

00:37:36.538 --> 00:37:38.981
Listen, I know that this is hard
for you to take but,

00:37:39.072 --> 00:37:41.792
you\'re putting up pretty well
under the circumstances.

00:37:41.909 --> 00:37:45.610
Things have been much worse
for a lot of people in the building.

00:37:45.712 --> 00:37:48.362
For instance, just this week,
Bob and Natalie came back,

00:37:48.450 --> 00:37:51.893
the family downstairs has been middle age,
they have two kids,

00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.950
and what happened was the fire up there
[?] department

00:37:55.045 --> 00:37:57.701
and the fire department
just drenched it with water,

00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.437
some of the new techniques they have
for putting out the fire.

00:38:00.538 --> 00:38:03.269
There\'s a lot of stuff missing
but I think the important thing is

00:38:03.365 --> 00:38:05.706
that there\'s a danger of fire tonight
and I\'m worried,

00:38:05.802 --> 00:38:07.408
even if you get a place to stay tonight,

00:38:07.509 --> 00:38:10.464
I\'m going to give you some of my boxes,
you get some of your valuable stuff.

00:38:10.560 --> 00:38:12.848
I already put some of my stuff
in the locker room there.

00:38:12.933 --> 00:38:14.709
You can take some of these stuff [?].

00:38:14.810 --> 00:38:16.234
I don\'t have a car. [?] a car tonight.

00:38:16.330 --> 00:38:18.800
We could borrow a car,
take some stuff over, if you want to.

00:38:18.912 --> 00:38:20.938
If it\'s important,
as long as you can live in there.

00:38:21.018 --> 00:38:22.666
Look what you have here, it\'s okay.

00:38:23.157 --> 00:38:29.802
[background noise]

00:38:35.024 --> 00:38:38.661
Listen, if you want me to help you,
most of the stuff up I [?] you.

00:38:39.957 --> 00:38:42.880
Thanks but I\'m going to leave it all.

00:38:43.162 --> 00:38:45.178
You\'re going to leave all the stuff here?

00:38:45.620 --> 00:38:47.653
Yes.
You\'re not going to take anything?

00:38:48.176 --> 00:38:50.560
Well, maybe this book.

00:38:50.986 --> 00:38:52.853
What about this beautiful coat?

00:38:53.824 --> 00:38:54.965
It\'s all yours.

00:38:55.070 --> 00:38:57.274
Come on. You want this, don\'t you?

00:38:57.392 --> 00:38:58.938
No, really. It\'s yours.

00:38:59.008 --> 00:39:00.144
Really?

00:39:00.917 --> 00:39:02.117
Anything you want.

00:39:02.202 --> 00:39:03.248
What about the books?

00:39:03.328 --> 00:39:04.682
Take them.

00:39:06.101 --> 00:39:08.165
You must be able to take
some of this stuff.

00:39:08.261 --> 00:39:09.856
No.

00:39:12.640 --> 00:39:15.781
I\'m sorry. Hey, listen, [?] could give you three now,

00:39:15.882 --> 00:39:17.872
it\'s important I get back to my apartment.

00:39:17.968 --> 00:39:20.522
Maybe that\'s terrific,
but I don\'t think I\'ll need them.

00:39:20.610 --> 00:39:22.650
My advice is,
just put some valuables in them

00:39:22.741 --> 00:39:24.261
and I\'ll take care of them for the night,

00:39:24.336 --> 00:39:26.629
anything you want and then
you can to leave it in my place.

00:39:26.704 --> 00:39:27.786
Nelly, thanks.
Okay.

00:39:27.872 --> 00:39:29.557
If you have any more boxes
let me know.

00:39:29.642 --> 00:39:31.728
Try to take some stuff.
Thanks.

00:39:31.962 --> 00:39:33.669
[?]

00:39:36.368 --> 00:39:38.106
[?]

00:39:41.120 --> 00:39:43.397
[?] time 8:49.

00:39:43.530 --> 00:39:46.064
Yay. [?].

00:39:46.181 --> 00:39:50.140
We\'re talking today to John Phillips
outside the Dawson Law School.

00:39:50.325 --> 00:39:54.058
John was recently finished serving
two years of a five-year sentence

00:39:54.645 --> 00:39:57.877
for conspiracy to transport explosives
across state lines.

00:39:58.533 --> 00:40:00.208
Formerly a practicing lawyer,

00:40:00.325 --> 00:40:02.725
she was discharged
for a felony conviction.

00:40:02.826 --> 00:40:04.464
She\'s now working at a legal aid

00:40:04.581 --> 00:40:06.624
and participating as a speaker recently

00:40:06.714 --> 00:40:08.394
in a conference on women in prison.

00:40:08.474 --> 00:40:09.285
[?]

00:40:09.397 --> 00:40:11.536
Jen, why did you commit your crime?

00:40:12.421 --> 00:40:16.821
Well, I spent a lot of time
to think about that in the last few years,

00:40:17.120 --> 00:40:21.722
and seems to me
that circumstances propelled me

00:40:21.834 --> 00:40:23.557
towards that particular action.

00:40:23.621 --> 00:40:25.413
At that time,
it seemed the right thing to do

00:40:25.541 --> 00:40:26.981
Professional. Professional.

00:40:27.082 --> 00:40:28.933
but other people seems
to be able to carry on

00:40:29.034 --> 00:40:31.472
and it\'s all part of a on-going struggle

00:40:31.632 --> 00:40:34.645
against the political power
that oppress all of us in this country.

00:40:34.746 --> 00:40:35.893
She\'ll talk slower.

00:40:35.989 --> 00:40:39.109
It will continue, people will continue
to carry on these actions

00:40:39.216 --> 00:40:41.754
whether I myself take part in them or not.

00:40:42.528 --> 00:40:44.693
Jen, you were in the prison for two years.

00:40:44.864 --> 00:40:46.554
What do you have against prisons?

00:40:47.381 --> 00:40:50.794
Well, prison turns out to be
more or less than a junk pile

00:40:51.237 --> 00:40:53.157
for the Third World and poor people

00:40:53.258 --> 00:40:56.853
that this society has no place for,
has no jobs for,

00:40:56.954 --> 00:40:59.754
or no education plan, or housing for.

00:41:00.350 --> 00:41:02.736
You can pick up a kid in the street,

00:41:02.832 --> 00:41:04.848
if he\'s poor-
I don\'t know how.

00:41:04.965 --> 00:41:08.464
-he doesn\'t have access
to a legal representation.

00:41:08.586 --> 00:41:13.312
It will be over soon
and then there will be the two of you.

00:41:13.488 --> 00:41:15.157
[crosstalk] rehabilitated that.

00:41:15.530 --> 00:41:18.672
Prisons only train people
to be able to live in prison.

00:41:18.890 --> 00:41:21.056
I haven\'t talked so long.

00:41:21.600 --> 00:41:23.408
I really don\'t know.

00:41:23.509 --> 00:41:25.088
After you\'ve been released from prison.

00:41:25.184 --> 00:41:28.165
Because then you have the label
as well as your other problem.

00:41:28.373 --> 00:41:30.032
It\'ll be over soon.

00:41:30.186 --> 00:41:31.744
Thank you very much.

00:41:32.016 --> 00:41:33.936
There it goes.

00:41:34.304 --> 00:41:36.640
Back to Mark Pritchard.

00:41:36.896 --> 00:41:43.034
[background noise]

00:41:47.088 --> 00:41:49.872
I don\'t think the center of my belief
has changed,

00:41:50.832 --> 00:41:55.002
but I think I have
to live with them differently.

00:41:57.408 --> 00:41:59.269
I don\'t know if I can explain it yet.

00:42:04.842 --> 00:42:10.517
It\'s like, I have to act
when I feel it\'s necessary for me to

00:42:11.434 --> 00:42:13.440
when there are no other alternatives

00:42:13.653 --> 00:42:15.610
and when I can see the way clearly.

00:42:17.594 --> 00:42:22.810
I do not want to act anymore
out of guilt or habit,

00:42:23.413 --> 00:42:26.048
or because I learn I ought to.

00:42:26.624 --> 00:42:30.325
I\'m not sure I understand exactly
what you\'re saying.

00:42:30.965 --> 00:42:33.349
What I feel mostly is that
there\'s these things

00:42:33.434 --> 00:42:36.816
that have to be done
and we have to do them.

00:42:38.842 --> 00:42:41.781
I feel I have to work
toward what I believe in.

00:42:42.917 --> 00:42:45.818
It\'s a real pressure that I feel constantly.

00:42:47.125 --> 00:42:53.802
For myself, I feel I have to act
in a situation that comes up.

00:42:55.365 --> 00:42:58.629
Probably what I\'m thinking
is I get worried sometimes.

00:42:59.002 --> 00:43:00.992
John has spoken a lot about you.

00:43:01.434 --> 00:43:03.440
I know what you\'ve done and I know

00:43:03.540 --> 00:43:05.861
what you\'ve been through,
and I really admire it.

00:43:07.157 --> 00:43:09.850
Now it appears you\'re not into that anymore

00:43:10.309 --> 00:43:13.888
and I don\'t know
what you\'re really thinking about now.

00:43:14.469 --> 00:43:21.562
If you\'re not into that, I worry, I question.

00:43:22.298 --> 00:43:24.432
I question myself.

00:43:25.850 --> 00:43:27.456
I don\'t think I can assure you.

00:43:27.573 --> 00:43:31.050
I worry about it for myself too.

00:43:40.672 --> 00:43:42.016
What is it?

00:43:42.490 --> 00:43:45.413
It\'s-- I\'ll tell you later.

00:43:45.797 --> 00:43:48.389
What he was saying before
about that pressure,

00:43:48.810 --> 00:43:51.392
I finally see myself
in this situation all the time

00:43:51.504 --> 00:43:52.949
when I feel very vulnerable.

00:43:53.072 --> 00:43:56.250
Sometimes it\'s subtle
and sometimes it\'s not so subtle.

00:43:56.842 --> 00:44:03.498
What happens is it makes me
much more aware of all the ugly things

00:44:03.584 --> 00:44:08.138
that are around me
and also just the contradictions in my life.

00:44:08.805 --> 00:44:12.688
What I feel is that the guilt around me,

00:44:13.733 --> 00:44:18.778
the heaviness, the enormous weight
that people live with.

00:44:19.472 --> 00:44:22.080
Sometimes when I\'m trying
to describe that pressure,

00:44:22.181 --> 00:44:23.840
it sounds like I\'m telling people

00:44:23.941 --> 00:44:26.944
that they are coping out
from saving the world or something.

00:44:27.061 --> 00:44:29.269
I really don\'t mean it to sound like that.

00:44:29.397 --> 00:44:31.066
I don\'t want to imply any guilt.

00:44:31.210 --> 00:44:35.685
No, I know what you mean,
but keeps creeping back in again.

00:44:35.818 --> 00:44:37.088
It\'s there.

00:44:37.296 --> 00:44:39.397
It\'s this baseline that seems so often.

00:44:41.258 --> 00:44:44.032
Two kids who have been working here,

00:44:45.904 --> 00:44:48.256
I asked them
whether they cleaned up before

00:44:48.378 --> 00:44:50.458
while they were leaving at the night.

00:44:51.749 --> 00:44:53.973
They didn\'t know
how to answer that question

00:44:54.080 --> 00:44:55.973
because they knew that I couldn\'t see,

00:44:56.976 --> 00:45:02.506
but at the same time,
they had to make that choice themselves.

00:45:02.586 --> 00:45:04.149
They have to.

00:45:04.528 --> 00:45:07.605
All I asked them was
whether they cleaned up.

00:45:09.562 --> 00:45:16.810
[music]

00:45:34.058 --> 00:45:35.344
You just don\'t know.

00:45:35.456 --> 00:45:39.488
You watch it, but you just can\'t tell
whether it means anything to people,

00:45:39.610 --> 00:45:42.736
whether it comes out of the box
and says anything to real people.

00:45:42.842 --> 00:45:44.346
Yes, I know.

00:45:44.592 --> 00:45:49.029
Now I was remembering back
Mississippi in 1965.

00:45:49.136 --> 00:45:50.842
That has changed so much.

00:45:51.301 --> 00:45:56.480
If we ever had access to TV,
this is incredible accomplishment.

00:45:58.586 --> 00:46:03.333
Now just that our ideas and our attitudes,

00:46:03.706 --> 00:46:07.536
and the way we come on to people
is much more familiar.

00:46:07.706 --> 00:46:11.013
It\'s so-- I think it is harder to be heard.

00:46:11.418 --> 00:46:18.453
Well, maybe people hear it a lot
because it\'s being said not just by us.

00:46:18.746 --> 00:46:23.530
There\'s people saying things
that we say and things we said.

00:46:23.946 --> 00:46:25.781
I don\'t even know who these people are.

00:46:25.866 --> 00:46:27.402
Yes, they did.

00:46:27.550 --> 00:46:29.024
Hello.
Hey, hi.

00:46:30.277 --> 00:46:31.397
Sorry we\'re late.

00:46:31.477 --> 00:46:33.658
We had a great side-track.

00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:35.872
Oh, yes. We thought you\'d be here
an hour ago.

00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.090
Yes. Listen, when you hear
where we\'ve been.

00:46:38.202 --> 00:46:39.909
It\'s all right.
Oh, really?

00:46:40.005 --> 00:46:41.296
First we had dinner.

00:46:41.434 --> 00:46:44.293
Such a dinner and then we had tea,

00:46:44.410 --> 00:46:47.696
but it\'s after tea that was the great part.

00:46:47.802 --> 00:46:49.952
Did I ever say about my friend, Carol?

00:46:50.420 --> 00:46:53.210
Old woman friend, Mrs. Winslow,
who reads tea leaves?

00:46:53.317 --> 00:46:54.554
Oh, she reads tea leaves.

00:46:54.640 --> 00:46:56.549
Yes, she\'s fantastic, she\'s fantastic.

00:46:56.640 --> 00:46:57.850
What did she tell you?

00:47:01.061 --> 00:47:05.546
Well, she told me
that she looked in my cup

00:47:05.776 --> 00:47:09.210
and she saw me sitting there
with these three girls sitting around me.

00:47:09.301 --> 00:47:10.501
Little girls?

00:47:10.602 --> 00:47:13.418
Well, she didn\'t tell me if they were little,
but they are my daughters.

00:47:13.493 --> 00:47:14.437
Wow.

00:47:14.528 --> 00:47:16.224
I got two more to go.

00:47:16.352 --> 00:47:18.224
Who are you?

00:47:18.310 --> 00:47:20.656
I\'m Karen.
This is Elizabeth\'s sister.

00:47:20.789 --> 00:47:22.837
You\'re pregnant.

00:47:22.949 --> 00:47:25.248
This is Suri and Sal.

00:47:25.685 --> 00:47:27.328
Hi.
Hi.

00:47:27.808 --> 00:47:29.594
What have you been doing?

00:47:29.717 --> 00:47:31.477
You missed it.

00:47:31.594 --> 00:47:32.837
What?

00:47:32.954 --> 00:47:35.338
The greatest TV special of the year.

00:47:35.632 --> 00:47:36.880
Yes?

00:47:36.986 --> 00:47:38.336
Actually it wasn\'t so good.

00:47:38.432 --> 00:47:40.320
What are you talking about?
What was it?

00:47:40.426 --> 00:47:43.333
I was on TV, so that\'s why I told
you\'re supposed to be here an hour ago.

00:47:43.434 --> 00:47:45.109
You were on a Quiz Show?
No.

00:47:45.200 --> 00:47:46.202
In what?

00:47:46.288 --> 00:47:49.557
Queen for a Day.
She has won a washing machine.

00:47:49.658 --> 00:47:50.917
A refrigerator.

00:47:51.013 --> 00:47:53.018
You remember that conference?

00:47:53.120 --> 00:47:55.226
The prisons conference.
Yes.

00:47:55.376 --> 00:47:57.578
Remember I was interviewed afterwards?
Yes.

00:47:57.685 --> 00:47:59.237
We just saw that on TV.

00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:00.896
How did it look like?

00:48:01.525 --> 00:48:02.789
I don\'t know what it look like.

00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:06.245
It was good, right?
Right, it was.

00:48:07.888 --> 00:48:10.373
We have to read the reviews
in the morning.

00:48:11.120 --> 00:48:12.506
Did you bring the graphics?

00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:18.816
Let\'s see.

00:48:22.693 --> 00:48:24.704
They\'re so beautiful.

00:48:31.072 --> 00:48:33.482
Good. Good work.

00:48:33.957 --> 00:48:36.282
It\'s like a little island actually.

00:48:36.394 --> 00:48:38.597
A sanity in a mad world.

00:48:43.909 --> 00:48:46.442
We got to get to the road now
and then start.

00:48:46.538 --> 00:48:47.696
No.

00:48:47.810 --> 00:48:50.021
We got to hitch-hike.
We don\'t have enough money.

00:48:50.117 --> 00:48:52.464
I want to ride the bus.

00:48:52.608 --> 00:48:54.469
Well, we\'ve hitch-hiked before.

00:48:54.592 --> 00:48:56.933
But the police is going to kick us out.

00:48:57.034 --> 00:48:58.768
No, the police is not going to bother us.

00:48:58.864 --> 00:49:00.346
Yes, they are.

00:49:01.946 --> 00:49:05.258
We\'ll just go on our own ramp
so that they won\'t come and get us.

00:49:05.340 --> 00:49:07.589
We won\'t go up on the freeways.
You don\'t have to worry.

00:49:07.685 --> 00:49:08.949
Okay.

00:49:15.221 --> 00:49:17.861
Here I am and I\'m going to have to try

00:49:18.165 --> 00:49:20.720
to find another way of feeling
about work.

00:49:22.432 --> 00:49:25.248
I guess whether you\'re feeling
out of place.

00:49:31.258 --> 00:49:33.930
Since I\'ve stopped teaching
and working at the lab,

00:49:37.877 --> 00:49:39.514
a lot of time with the kids,

00:49:42.373 --> 00:49:44.288
just walking around the city.

00:49:49.109 --> 00:49:50.736
There\'s some changes

00:49:53.765 --> 00:49:56.282
to be so devoted to a work.

00:50:02.368 --> 00:50:04.165
Every day I feel

00:50:12.549 --> 00:50:14.448
how much you miss working that way.

00:50:15.274 --> 00:50:16.896
It\'s too early to tell.

00:50:21.269 --> 00:50:25.354
Sometimes when I was teaching,
not very often at the lab,

00:50:28.933 --> 00:50:30.794
what I felt about people,

00:50:33.546 --> 00:50:37.242
the routine keep me busy.

00:50:46.944 --> 00:50:49.568
That\'s why you\'re thinking
about living with Dylan?

00:50:56.117 --> 00:50:57.440
It\'s more than that.

00:51:06.698 --> 00:51:09.637
Just being open to different experiences,

00:51:14.736 --> 00:51:16.218
new stuff come in.

00:51:18.853 --> 00:51:24.298
If it wasn\'t for Sal and knowing
that I didn\'t have to do it alone,

00:51:25.402 --> 00:51:28.688
I don\'t think I\'d feel so sure
that I wanted Dylan to live with me.

00:52:19.642 --> 00:52:25.008
[water flowing]

00:52:27.232 --> 00:52:29.525
Look at all these empty shells.

00:52:29.845 --> 00:52:30.997
Like that.

00:52:31.098 --> 00:52:33.434
I can\'t find any ones
with live snails in them.

00:52:33.765 --> 00:52:35.402
Oh, boy.

00:52:52.010 --> 00:52:56.149
Isn\'t it amazing how different it is now
than it was in the summer,

00:52:56.874 --> 00:52:59.061
when we were here the last time?

00:52:59.152 --> 00:53:00.416
Yes.

00:53:00.613 --> 00:53:05.536
It\'s just like there\'s a cycle
that changes through the seasons.

00:53:05.978 --> 00:53:08.272
You mean cycleloom?

00:53:08.490 --> 00:53:10.160
Cycleloom?

00:53:10.512 --> 00:53:11.605
A cycleloom.

00:53:11.701 --> 00:53:14.538
The animals and the plants
all do different things

00:53:14.709 --> 00:53:16.240
in different times of the year.

00:53:16.341 --> 00:53:19.285
Like in the winter,
everything is really slowed down.

00:53:19.504 --> 00:53:23.973
All these plants here,
they\'re just not doing anything right now

00:53:24.085 --> 00:53:26.912
and all the animals,
they\'re not doing anything either.

00:53:27.141 --> 00:53:30.922
Even people have to follow that cycle.

00:53:31.600 --> 00:53:34.554
In the winter you can\'t do as much
as you can do in the summer.

00:53:34.816 --> 00:53:37.546
Even old Chinese people really knew that

00:53:37.664 --> 00:53:41.776
and they told people to slow down
in winter because we don\'t hibernate.

00:53:41.888 --> 00:53:43.776
Bears hibernate.

00:53:43.888 --> 00:53:45.498
[laughs]

00:53:45.626 --> 00:53:47.850
People don\'t hibernate ever.

00:53:47.978 --> 00:53:51.914
No, but they just have to go a lot slower
than they do in the summer.

00:53:52.032 --> 00:53:53.322
The days are shorter.

00:53:53.418 --> 00:53:55.205
Look how short the days are now.

00:53:55.333 --> 00:53:56.832
They\'re getting longer.

00:53:56.944 --> 00:53:59.717
They\'re getting longer
because this is already past.

00:53:59.808 --> 00:54:00.917
Yes.

00:54:01.664 --> 00:54:04.362
I want [?] home.

00:54:04.677 --> 00:54:06.298
The longest night.

00:54:06.517 --> 00:54:08.298
[chuckles] Yes.

00:54:15.877 --> 00:54:17.157
Do you miss anyone?

00:54:17.269 --> 00:54:18.480
Yes.

00:54:18.618 --> 00:54:20.224
We don\'t want to leave yet, do we?

00:54:20.350 --> 00:54:22.154
No, we don\'t.
I\'m going to get warm.

00:54:22.266 --> 00:54:25.061
We\'re going to get really warm
before we leave, right?

00:54:30.042 --> 00:54:31.994
I\'m glad we went to the beach today.

00:54:32.693 --> 00:54:35.056
Aren\'t you?
Yes. I love it.

00:54:35.413 --> 00:54:37.536
Actually we made this fire.

00:54:38.773 --> 00:54:40.880
[sings]

00:54:41.077 --> 00:54:47.786
[whistles]

00:55:07.125 --> 00:55:09.749
What do you think
about Dylan coming to live with us?

00:55:15.786 --> 00:55:16.938
I don\'t know.

00:55:17.098 --> 00:55:18.800
It\'s hard for me to think about it.

00:55:19.077 --> 00:55:21.754
It\'s scary to think of him
not being with me,

00:55:22.309 --> 00:55:25.264
but I also wonder about
all the other people in California

00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:28.282
who he\'s been with
because they really have begun to feel

00:55:28.389 --> 00:55:30.256
like his mothers and fathers too.

00:55:31.370 --> 00:55:33.205
He spends a lot of time with them.

00:55:34.149 --> 00:55:35.477
They take care of him.

00:55:35.605 --> 00:55:36.981
They really love him.

00:55:40.901 --> 00:55:42.400
I\'m not sure

00:55:43.573 --> 00:55:45.626
whether it\'s our decision alone.

00:55:49.173 --> 00:55:51.280
Well, I\'m not trying to push my rights,

00:55:51.472 --> 00:55:53.280
but I don\'t want to be cut out.

00:55:54.629 --> 00:55:57.728
I\'m trying to be
part of the circle of his family

00:55:57.850 --> 00:56:00.096
in some real substantive way,

00:56:00.869 --> 00:56:02.752
in a way that I haven\'t been able to be

00:56:02.869 --> 00:56:04.464
for the last two or three years.

00:56:06.826 --> 00:56:08.512
Yes. I think that\'s important.

00:56:10.714 --> 00:56:12.108
What do you think?

00:56:18.508 --> 00:56:21.101
Well, someway I feel
as if it\'s not real for you and I

00:56:21.190 --> 00:56:25.515
to sit down at this table together alone
and figure it out.

00:56:27.722 --> 00:56:30.592
There are too many other people involved

00:56:32.724 --> 00:56:35.331
and maybe a good possibility would be

00:56:35.416 --> 00:56:38.028
for you to come out there
and stay for awhile

00:56:38.832 --> 00:56:40.607
and we could all work it out together.

00:56:41.557 --> 00:56:43.138
Maybe you could think about

00:56:45.515 --> 00:56:47.995
what kind of school trip
Dylan would get into

00:56:48.112 --> 00:56:51.063
if he were with you and be able

00:56:51.214 --> 00:56:54.230
to have some clear picture
of what he would be coming into.

00:56:56.771 --> 00:56:59.068
That\'s reasonable as usual.

00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:02.729
Jimmy, I feel I don\'t want
to undermine all those people

00:57:03.698 --> 00:57:07.068
who\'ve provided us with some real way

00:57:07.152 --> 00:57:09.068
to have freedom to do other things.

00:57:10.197 --> 00:57:11.788
They\'re really involved now.

00:57:15.825 --> 00:57:17.840
I don\'t think it can be the way it used to be,

00:57:17.962 --> 00:57:19.595
just a thing between you and me.

00:57:22.470 --> 00:57:26.880
I want it that way too, but I\'m his father

00:57:27.355 --> 00:57:30.320
and I have
a very special kind of relationship.

00:57:30.828 --> 00:57:35.741
I dig other kids too,
but I can\'t brush away my feelings.

00:57:36.663 --> 00:57:40.258
Maybe it\'s just part of me
that I have to try to get on top of.

00:57:40.809 --> 00:57:42.588
I feel it\'s hard for me too.

00:57:42.945 --> 00:57:46.974
I still have all the old poles to you and Dylan

00:57:47.077 --> 00:57:48.974
and me being a family together.

00:57:50.141 --> 00:57:52.640
I feel a lot of attachments to that,

00:57:56.240 --> 00:57:57.590
but I also feel

00:58:00.103 --> 00:58:02.682
that both of us

00:58:04.282 --> 00:58:08.305
need the freedom right now
that some other form would provide us

00:58:09.924 --> 00:58:13.990
and that even though
it\'s important for Dylan

00:58:14.094 --> 00:58:16.230
to have a strong sense of you
as his father,

00:58:17.237 --> 00:58:18.795
that we\'ve got to go with

00:58:19.571 --> 00:58:21.675
some exploration of some other way.

00:58:30.635 --> 00:58:32.470
I\'ll tell you, you don\'t remember that.

00:58:32.771 --> 00:58:37.943
I told you I was running
for shop stewards in [?].

00:58:38.056 --> 00:58:39.854
We got some people together.

00:58:39.938 --> 00:58:42.654
Some of my buddies and me,
and we had an insurgent slate.

00:58:42.752 --> 00:58:44.592
We\'d done pretty good, but, of course,

00:58:44.682 --> 00:58:47.275
the union didn\'t like it
and the company didn\'t like it.

00:58:47.374 --> 00:58:51.002
Now, my position is a little unclear
since we lost that election.

00:58:51.604 --> 00:58:54.009
The union wants to get me out of there,

00:58:54.089 --> 00:58:56.729
but there\'s nothing they can do about
really because I\'m a member.

00:58:56.814 --> 00:58:58.395
It comes out in terms of grievances.

00:58:58.494 --> 00:59:01.887
I lost a lot of pay for suspended time
and stuff like that.

00:59:03.792 --> 00:59:10.230
Remember around 1970 or so,
we made a conscious decision

00:59:10.329 --> 00:59:13.689
to move out of that
crisis-oriented organizing

00:59:13.807 --> 00:59:17.284
in all the university community
and move into an industrial area.

00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:19.698
We were picked up, some of us,
and went to Detroit

00:59:19.788 --> 00:59:22.531
and left behind what we thought
was a continuing group

00:59:22.616 --> 00:59:24.277
and then we have something to relate to

00:59:24.371 --> 00:59:27.011
in the context of what we were doing
and what they were doing

00:59:27.101 --> 00:59:28.781
and there\'d be a feedback back and forth.

00:59:28.875 --> 00:59:31.632
That worked for a while
and then that dried up around us

00:59:31.741 --> 00:59:34.701
and left us a little bit isolated
kind of semi-isolation

00:59:34.771 --> 00:59:36.305
set down there in Detroit.

00:59:36.385 --> 00:59:38.141
We did a few demonstrations.

00:59:38.310 --> 00:59:41.538
We put out a paper
and we have a group going

00:59:41.731 --> 00:59:43.345
but somehow it\'s mostly now

00:59:43.524 --> 00:59:46.310
getting into working at the plant
and being with people.

00:59:47.604 --> 00:59:49.265
I\'ll tell you, I don\'t know.

00:59:49.364 --> 00:59:53.407
I learned to use a spray gun pretty good
I\'ll tell you that.

00:59:57.214 --> 01:00:01.265
[humming]

01:00:01.844 --> 01:00:03.397
It feels okay.

01:00:03.487 --> 01:00:05.792
It\'s really good to be leaving
the ranch right now.

01:00:05.891 --> 01:00:07.792
I just feel a little restless and--

01:00:08.352 --> 01:00:10.418
I think we really ought to talk some more

01:00:10.498 --> 01:00:11.995
about where we\'re going to live

01:00:12.089 --> 01:00:15.392
because I would just feel really good
about living in a city again.

01:00:17.472 --> 01:00:18.992
I know you would, but--

01:00:21.684 --> 01:00:25.647
She\'s leaving her home
and the people she\'s been with a lot more

01:00:25.731 --> 01:00:27.411
and I think that\'s how she feels it.

01:00:27.567 --> 01:00:31.712
She feels she can try out anything there

01:00:31.882 --> 01:00:33.463
and she has a lot of trust.

01:00:34.569 --> 01:00:36.098
Well, you know what I mean.

01:00:36.621 --> 01:00:38.658
What did you say? I can\'t quite make it.

01:00:39.463 --> 01:00:41.091
A little bit louder.

01:00:43.618 --> 01:00:45.727
What I think of most of all

01:00:47.242 --> 01:00:50.070
is what that means for Leaf, that change.

01:00:52.056 --> 01:00:53.487
Not only the sudden change

01:00:53.581 --> 01:00:57.044
from living in the country
then moving to the city.

01:00:59.364 --> 01:01:01.054
You do it, you do it.

01:01:01.350 --> 01:01:06.743
But what it means as far as
him having kids to play with every day,

01:01:07.604 --> 01:01:12.536
as far as him having big people
to relate to other than us-

01:01:12.630 --> 01:01:14.912
so the pressure isn\'t on us all the time

01:01:15.007 --> 01:01:17.952
which means would be good
for him and us either.

01:01:25.209 --> 01:01:30.112
[children playing]

01:01:43.708 --> 01:01:49.760
[animals baaing]

01:01:52.155 --> 01:01:54.070
We could live with a group of people

01:01:54.188 --> 01:01:57.524
who would take
some kind of responsibility toward Leaf.

01:01:57.675 --> 01:01:59.284
There would be some more kids

01:01:59.383 --> 01:02:03.811
and then we can find something like that
in the city if we try.

01:02:03.929 --> 01:02:05.223
You try.

01:02:06.752 --> 01:02:10.988
I hope so because it would have to be
a really fine place.

01:02:11.110 --> 01:02:12.508
It is.

01:02:12.616 --> 01:02:14.103
You try it.

01:02:14.503 --> 01:02:17.708
Well, I think I just feel

01:02:17.788 --> 01:02:20.310
that we could find
something like that in the city

01:02:20.395 --> 01:02:26.635
which had lots of different groups of people,
blacks, or Chicanos

01:02:28.192 --> 01:02:31.096
in which the kinds of pressure
that we both feel

01:02:31.195 --> 01:02:33.167
about what\'s going on in the country

01:02:35.101 --> 01:02:37.185
and we would be in touch with that more.

01:02:37.289 --> 01:02:41.736
That would be good for us
and for Leaf I think.

01:02:48.131 --> 01:02:49.915
We got that there.

01:02:53.072 --> 01:02:54.324
Easy, right there.

01:02:54.658 --> 01:02:55.929
We got to do something.

01:02:56.009 --> 01:02:57.435
Yes, for sure.

01:02:57.623 --> 01:02:59.322
Oh, yay.

01:03:01.011 --> 01:03:06.861
[crosstalk]

01:03:12.903 --> 01:03:15.082
Even the most solid things
are fluid to me.

01:03:16.042 --> 01:03:19.124
What\'s going on down there
with these crazy people?

01:03:33.708 --> 01:03:35.185
You come in the right way.

01:03:59.755 --> 01:04:02.564
It\'s just going to mean
me taking that step.

01:04:02.649 --> 01:04:05.698
You think how I\'ve changed
in the last few years

01:04:05.774 --> 01:04:07.891
since I\'ve been living in an atmosphere

01:04:07.985 --> 01:04:13.548
which is giving me that space
to do a lot of re-learning

01:04:15.101 --> 01:04:20.837
and I just have to take that step
to get into the city

01:04:20.931 --> 01:04:23.491
because I know that there\'s a lot
I\'ve been focused on,

01:04:23.571 --> 01:04:24.997
a lot would be real good to me.

01:04:25.091 --> 01:04:26.701
I just got to do it.

01:04:31.223 --> 01:04:33.811
Yes, I think we can try to do that.

01:04:34.202 --> 01:04:37.021
The sun\'s far out
because I could always run for the hills

01:04:37.143 --> 01:04:38.898
if it gets too heavy.

01:04:39.251 --> 01:04:40.738
Sounds all right.

01:04:41.171 --> 01:04:42.197
You\'re warming up?

01:04:42.277 --> 01:04:43.665
Yes.

01:04:44.051 --> 01:04:45.797
I\'m really getting comfortable.

01:04:47.251 --> 01:04:48.569
I want to go to sleep.

01:04:57.416 --> 01:04:58.767
You\'re really cold?

01:04:59.058 --> 01:05:00.536
Can that be true?

01:05:03.990 --> 01:05:09.294
I got it.

01:05:12.870 --> 01:05:14.310
How about this?

01:05:14.785 --> 01:05:15.985
Another one boot.

01:05:16.080 --> 01:05:17.449
Another one boot.

01:05:17.557 --> 01:05:18.781
It\'s okay there.

01:05:18.922 --> 01:05:20.357
There.

01:05:35.195 --> 01:05:36.329
Watch out.

01:05:41.717 --> 01:05:43.275
No, sure can.

01:05:43.538 --> 01:05:44.616
Yes.

01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:48.630
Hi.
Hello.

01:05:48.724 --> 01:05:50.470
I was wondering if you have any work,

01:05:50.569 --> 01:05:52.814
pumping gas or doing any outside work?

01:05:53.007 --> 01:05:54.080
No, we don\'t.

01:05:54.202 --> 01:05:55.952
We have a crew.

01:05:57.312 --> 01:05:59.392
It\'s really hard getting jobs around here.

01:05:59.491 --> 01:06:01.209
We really need money now.

01:06:01.402 --> 01:06:03.863
It seems a lot of people
are looking for a job here.

01:06:03.948 --> 01:06:05.863
Lots. Yes.

01:06:06.583 --> 01:06:10.950
Do you know any other places
where I could check see if they have?

01:06:11.364 --> 01:06:14.432
In the main street, down two blocks
over the Cameron station

01:06:14.527 --> 01:06:15.957
they might need some workers.

01:06:16.047 --> 01:06:18.437
Okay, I\'ll try there. Thanks a lot.

01:06:29.510 --> 01:06:31.901
After lunch I was having this dream,

01:06:32.922 --> 01:06:36.705
the feeling of a gap
between what I believe in

01:06:37.308 --> 01:06:39.802
and what my life is like from day to day.

01:06:41.289 --> 01:06:45.261
There was some sort of a song,
a quote or something.

01:06:45.345 --> 01:06:46.978
Maybe from Harriet Tubman.

01:06:47.595 --> 01:06:52.301
She was saying,
\"I had seen her tears and sighs,

01:06:52.442 --> 01:06:54.141
and I heard her groans

01:06:54.912 --> 01:06:58.522
and I would give every drop of blood
in my veins to freedom.\"

01:06:58.724 --> 01:07:00.550
She was saying this.

01:07:02.917 --> 01:07:05.454
She\'s sort of put on a frame
around my life.

01:07:12.649 --> 01:07:15.689
What relationship do the trees have,
not just land trees,

01:07:15.778 --> 01:07:21.317
but fishing rights, mineral rights,
et cetera to all Indians?

01:07:22.268 --> 01:07:26.503
What is this symbolic meaning
of the treaty rights?

01:07:28.244 --> 01:07:32.225
Why was the BIA formed
and what has it done to Indian values?

01:07:32.795 --> 01:07:35.567
What kind of Indians work for the BIA?

01:07:35.689 --> 01:07:38.051
Going to the public government a little bit.

01:07:38.268 --> 01:07:40.785
This is, I don\'t know.

01:07:40.936 --> 01:07:42.842
What work of a system is possible?

01:07:43.138 --> 01:07:46.338
To get back the land and sovereignty,
what will work?

01:07:46.640 --> 01:07:51.058
This is a phone call from a man,

01:07:51.152 --> 01:07:53.360
he worked with Richard Oakes
and his people.

01:07:53.675 --> 01:07:55.077
He\'s got a film to show.

01:07:55.585 --> 01:07:58.762
He\'d like to give maybe
the half of proceeds to the reservation.

01:07:58.865 --> 01:07:59.938
He wants to talk to you.

01:08:00.018 --> 01:08:01.670
Hello, hi.

01:08:02.131 --> 01:08:03.581
No, I don\'t think so.

01:08:03.684 --> 01:08:05.736
It\'s the first time, in a way

01:08:05.891 --> 01:08:08.908
that the Kashia Indians
has a reservation in this county.

01:08:09.072 --> 01:08:11.157
No, that\'s what\'s interesting.

01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:15.840
It\'s like the Indian ghetto
hadn\'t become a part of our lives.

01:08:16.009 --> 01:08:18.070
We were ignorant of it.

01:08:18.230 --> 01:08:20.729
It\'s really not clear to me
how it\'s going to come off.

01:08:20.870 --> 01:08:24.654
Some people are going to be seen
in these movies.

01:08:24.894 --> 01:08:26.338
We haven\'t seen them.

01:08:26.400 --> 01:08:27.444
Which we haven\'t seen.

01:08:27.538 --> 01:08:29.731
It feels really irresponsible at this point

01:08:29.811 --> 01:08:31.760
When John and I were at the reservations,

01:08:31.854 --> 01:08:34.837
we said that it\'d be good
if we can come down early afternoon

01:08:35.002 --> 01:08:38.178
and we could talk about
what was going on and plan on the evening.

01:08:38.258 --> 01:08:40.376
They felt a part of organizing of that.

01:08:40.475 --> 01:08:43.011
Well, I think we should do tonight,

01:08:43.110 --> 01:08:46.498
call everybody that we have
the phone numbers for--

01:08:46.611 --> 01:08:48.324
And get them to call their friends.

01:08:48.404 --> 01:08:52.527
I could see that something
they are going to be interested in

01:08:52.635 --> 01:08:55.360
in hearing [crosstalk] reservation.

01:08:55.477 --> 01:08:58.084
Sovereignty, the simplest explanation
is freedom.

01:08:58.329 --> 01:09:04.658
We have the Oglala Sioux,
who should be conducting their affairs here,

01:09:05.665 --> 01:09:09.275
but who now,
as the government has interfered with,

01:09:09.637 --> 01:09:12.988
and this is what you call
a violation of sovereignty.

01:09:14.512 --> 01:09:20.837
I am Ben [crosstalk] I\'m Haudenosaunee

01:09:21.350 --> 01:09:24.583
[?] I come from Onondaga,

01:09:24.691 --> 01:09:27.694
the capital of Haudenosaunee,
and the Iroquoi

01:09:28.658 --> 01:09:31.981
and I have an ancestry
that goes back beyond

01:09:32.084 --> 01:09:35.741
a thousand years in one place,
in the same place.

01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:39.054
Of course they\'re sovereign
and of course we are,

01:09:39.162 --> 01:09:43.110
these people and have been for longer
than almost anybody else

01:09:43.214 --> 01:09:44.771
in this whole world.

01:09:45.289 --> 01:09:47.487
They came here for only that reason

01:09:48.183 --> 01:09:52.343
and I think that they went away realizing
that this United States government

01:09:52.456 --> 01:09:55.477
is not an all powerful God
the way that our people looked on it,

01:09:55.590 --> 01:09:57.482
have looked on it for so damn long.

01:09:57.750 --> 01:10:01.025
They were able to go down to a bunker

01:10:01.289 --> 01:10:04.545
and vent those frustration
they have against the government.

01:10:04.687 --> 01:10:06.729
Sometimes you see one of these young kids

01:10:06.828 --> 01:10:09.124
who\'d never think
of slagging a cop in the mouth

01:10:09.209 --> 01:10:10.790
for calling them a dirty Indian.

01:10:10.870 --> 01:10:12.451
All I said, remember all those things,

01:10:12.545 --> 01:10:14.974
you just stand up on a bunker maybe
with a shotgun

01:10:15.040 --> 01:10:16.630
and fire at those pigs up there.

01:10:16.856 --> 01:10:19.063
There\'s no way that shotgun
can reach up there

01:10:19.140 --> 01:10:22.734
as far as those guys were away.
It was just in his mind.

01:10:22.828 --> 01:10:26.004
He had just realized
that I can fight back now.

01:10:26.291 --> 01:10:28.042
I\'m here with my own people

01:10:28.141 --> 01:10:31.040
and we have the strength
to once again start fighting.

01:10:31.152 --> 01:10:35.350
This is the way I\'m going to start
and it was really a crazy thing down there

01:10:35.449 --> 01:10:38.682
on the Strong Heart bunker
when for a long time,

01:10:38.781 --> 01:10:41.007
all the bunkers had decided to be zeroed in

01:10:41.105 --> 01:10:42.974
on this one particular bunker of ours

01:10:43.072 --> 01:10:44.931
and they were shooting very heavily.

01:10:45.063 --> 01:10:46.320
They got very frustrated.

01:10:46.410 --> 01:10:49.096
All of a sudden two of them jumped up
and threw some dirt clouds

01:10:49.185 --> 01:10:50.663
at the pigs way out there,

01:10:50.762 --> 01:10:52.164
they were long ways away.

01:10:52.258 --> 01:10:54.169
Everybody just started cracking up.

01:10:54.249 --> 01:10:55.425
It was a really good time.

01:10:55.515 --> 01:11:00.240
It was also a very strong thing
in the minds of those warriors that did that

01:11:00.400 --> 01:11:03.901
because in our way then
it\'s good to do something like that.

01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:06.974
Just to show that you\'re not afraid.

01:11:08.630 --> 01:11:11.689
Well, I don\'t think you should mention
your previous landlord,

01:11:11.802 --> 01:11:14.804
some of the landlords around here
got a little bit uptight

01:11:14.894 --> 01:11:17.364
about the fact someone who\'s been in jail.

01:11:17.515 --> 01:11:19.016
They are very strict.

01:11:19.877 --> 01:11:22.489
I have something up here
on Washington Street.

01:11:23.134 --> 01:11:25.868
Two rooms and a kitchen for $150.

01:11:29.237 --> 01:11:30.621
You want to come here?

01:11:33.910 --> 01:11:35.223
It\'s funky.

01:11:37.007 --> 01:11:38.785
You\'re going to redecorate it.

01:11:38.898 --> 01:11:40.785
I\'ll just leave everything up.

01:11:50.701 --> 01:11:56.494
It must be nice having all this light
after your previous apartment.

01:12:00.649 --> 01:12:03.360
I don\'t know if a lot of people understand

01:12:03.482 --> 01:12:06.941
what the meaning of \"free\" is
in this country.

01:12:07.091 --> 01:12:08.512
I really don\'t.

01:12:09.538 --> 01:12:12.564
A long time ago, I was a young guy.

01:12:12.997 --> 01:12:14.955
I don\'t know if I ever told you about this.

01:12:15.063 --> 01:12:17.981
I took a trip
and I was bummed around in Havana.

01:12:18.277 --> 01:12:21.538
I loved to gamble, dance,

01:12:21.665 --> 01:12:23.397
and the women, everything out of sight.

01:12:24.630 --> 01:12:27.317
I was there when this guy, Fidel Castro,

01:12:27.425 --> 01:12:32.376
marched in and the next day
everything was topsy-turvy.

01:12:32.644 --> 01:12:34.376
Really an incredible scene.

01:12:34.748 --> 01:12:37.228
Some weird explosion just blew my mind.

01:12:37.369 --> 01:12:41.058
People that I have never realized
were around me started talking to me.

01:12:41.341 --> 01:12:43.915
A shoeshine guy was talking to me,
a waitress.

01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.437
Everyone was telling me
what it really was like

01:12:46.517 --> 01:12:48.211
before this whole thing happened.

01:12:48.296 --> 01:12:50.282
I never knew, man, I couldn\'t understand it.

01:12:50.380 --> 01:12:52.051
There were no jobs, people were hungry.

01:12:52.140 --> 01:12:54.018
Some of them were dancing on the streets,

01:12:54.103 --> 01:12:55.530
like everything would be different.

01:12:55.623 --> 01:12:57.082
Did you get involved in it?

01:12:57.670 --> 01:12:59.134
No, I didn\'t really.

01:12:59.223 --> 01:13:02.465
First, I was a little afraid and then
when I saw everything was okay,

01:13:02.611 --> 01:13:05.614
I left Havana and went out of the country,

01:13:05.727 --> 01:13:08.145
and that\'s when the thing
that really blew my mind.

01:13:08.258 --> 01:13:12.517
People were working,
got into things, building stuff.

01:13:12.823 --> 01:13:15.341
There were suddenly people
running out of medicine

01:13:15.421 --> 01:13:17.341
when they\'ve never been--
It was pretty poor,

01:13:17.425 --> 01:13:19.882
but that wasn\'t the point,
beautiful things happening.

01:13:19.957 --> 01:13:21.538
People were really doing things

01:13:21.618 --> 01:13:23.807
that they never had a chance to
before in their lives.

01:13:23.887 --> 01:13:25.807
Have you been down there since?
No.

01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:28.832
I often wanted to go back
because I always felt

01:13:28.912 --> 01:13:31.115
that they were my friends,
I never went back again.

01:13:31.209 --> 01:13:32.640
Every once in a while I do something.

01:13:32.748 --> 01:13:34.174
I met a cab, a couple years ago.

01:13:34.287 --> 01:13:36.988
He said he was a doctor
of tropical diseases

01:13:37.068 --> 01:13:38.056
or something like that.

01:13:38.150 --> 01:13:39.369
I don\'t know anything about it,

01:13:39.449 --> 01:13:41.360
but I turned them on to
the idea of going down.

01:13:41.463 --> 01:13:44.522
He went down
and apparently he really dug it.

01:13:44.630 --> 01:13:46.781
They obviously learned a great deal from him.

01:13:46.875 --> 01:13:49.548
When he came back I found out
how much he had learned from them.

01:13:49.661 --> 01:13:51.256
It\'s an incredible thing.

01:13:52.296 --> 01:13:56.931
It\'s this side of you that kept me here
for as long as I\'ve been here.

01:13:57.256 --> 01:13:59.280
Probably I would have split
a long time ago.

01:13:59.364 --> 01:14:04.484
Every guy trying to make me
and ask me for a drink.

01:14:04.894 --> 01:14:08.183
Everybody is so blown out,
they can\'t sit up straight

01:14:08.376 --> 01:14:11.802
or even the stench of this place
when I come in in the morning.

01:14:15.402 --> 01:14:17.407
Why don\'t you get out of here too?

01:14:18.442 --> 01:14:19.731
And do what?

01:14:20.705 --> 01:14:22.320
You could figure something out.

01:14:22.428 --> 01:14:24.785
It\'s the same thing,
I\'ll run to another joint

01:14:24.889 --> 01:14:26.927
and help a couple of people get started.

01:14:27.289 --> 01:14:28.677
That\'s about it.

01:14:31.774 --> 01:14:33.383
There had been a fire there.

01:14:34.216 --> 01:14:36.400
Everything was burned out or robbed.

01:14:36.823 --> 01:14:38.103
As we can see.

01:14:38.211 --> 01:14:41.105
Yes, I was really relieved.

01:14:43.218 --> 01:14:44.663
What are you going to do?

01:14:45.901 --> 01:14:49.218
You should come live with me
and throw some pots.

01:14:49.618 --> 01:14:51.345
I remember you used to say,

01:14:51.774 --> 01:14:55.350
when the Vietnam war was over,
you\'d make some pots.

01:14:55.774 --> 01:15:00.141
I used to think if that was
a strange way to split it in half.

01:15:00.865 --> 01:15:02.409
I don\'t know what I\'m going to do.

01:15:02.729 --> 01:15:04.047
You know of any apartments?

01:15:04.150 --> 01:15:06.541
I hear them occasionally,
but you can live here,

01:15:06.630 --> 01:15:08.390
you can live here as long as you want.

01:15:08.480 --> 01:15:10.498
There\'s a room.
There\'s quite a lot over there.

01:15:10.564 --> 01:15:11.642
Thanks.

01:15:12.291 --> 01:15:14.240
You\'ll get used to that.

01:15:16.691 --> 01:15:19.275
I don\'t know.
I thought I\'d travel a little bit first.

01:15:20.112 --> 01:15:22.776
I have some money,
I could spend a few months traveling.

01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:25.425
I rent this place out to some people

01:15:26.705 --> 01:15:29.520
and some kids work here part-time.

01:15:32.014 --> 01:15:35.620
I used to travel around the city
looking for a place to sell these pots.

01:15:36.164 --> 01:15:42.254
This store is the best I could tell,
it was this nightmare

01:15:44.541 --> 01:15:46.512
and now I\'m making pots.

01:15:47.021 --> 01:15:50.352
I feel like this barnacle on this big rock.

01:16:13.369 --> 01:16:15.214
How old were you when you went blind?

01:16:15.425 --> 01:16:17.068
I was 11.

01:16:37.524 --> 01:16:39.280
Do you remember what you saw?

01:16:40.207 --> 01:16:45.209
Yes, but a lot of it seems
to disappear and diminish.

01:16:45.294 --> 01:16:50.268
Other parts of it are so clear and strong.

01:16:50.508 --> 01:16:59.788
It\'s like some colors have become
brimmed beyond anyway

01:16:59.887 --> 01:17:02.475
for me to believe in them.

01:17:04.875 --> 01:17:07.877
Yes, I do, I do remember.

01:17:09.948 --> 01:17:12.856
I felt the same thing about the outside,
when I was in prison.

01:17:14.442 --> 01:17:16.188
Yes, but you get out.

01:17:17.068 --> 01:17:18.512
It\'s not that simple.

01:17:18.635 --> 01:17:20.512
No, no.

01:17:22.310 --> 01:17:23.698
The problem is memories.

01:17:24.974 --> 01:17:26.320
You know what I mean?

01:17:26.470 --> 01:17:29.567
Sometimes I don\'t know
if I\'m seeing things the way they are.

01:17:30.023 --> 01:17:31.887
I play tricks on myself.

01:17:32.329 --> 01:17:34.950
I think there should be a way
I could cut through that.

01:17:35.477 --> 01:17:38.329
I met a lot of guys in prison
that taught me something.

01:17:38.734 --> 01:17:40.724
Maybe there\'s someone who could teach.

01:17:41.924 --> 01:17:44.687
Yes, there are teachers,
there are teachers everywhere.

01:17:50.207 --> 01:17:53.863
Do you remember that guy, Peter,
who used to do designing work with me?

01:17:54.390 --> 01:17:55.938
Yes, the one who went into prison?

01:17:56.047 --> 01:17:57.256
Yes, for two years.

01:17:59.091 --> 01:18:01.425
I have been thinking about him
so much lately.

01:18:01.529 --> 01:18:03.425
He just keeps going through my head

01:18:04.870 --> 01:18:07.176
because there is something very strange

01:18:07.308 --> 01:18:09.534
about the way he is relating to being out.

01:18:09.769 --> 01:18:15.176
On one hand, he surely has something
very beautiful going on inside.

01:18:15.581 --> 01:18:20.545
On the other hand, there\'s something
so distant, and frigid,

01:18:20.771 --> 01:18:22.898
and brittle about the way

01:18:23.007 --> 01:18:25.331
he is relating to us
and to the whole world.

01:18:25.609 --> 01:18:27.049
I\'m sorry.

01:18:28.145 --> 01:18:29.680
I knocked it off.

01:18:30.767 --> 01:18:32.720
It doesn\'t make any difference.

01:18:32.847 --> 01:18:34.272
You can make another one.

01:18:34.385 --> 01:18:35.802
Let me finish this.

01:18:43.694 --> 01:18:44.936
There is a split in there.

01:18:50.696 --> 01:18:52.875
Now you can see
what the inside looks like.

01:18:58.889 --> 01:19:00.098
Here.

01:19:02.512 --> 01:19:03.604
Okay.

01:19:03.689 --> 01:19:04.616
Let\'s see.

01:19:04.734 --> 01:19:06.955
I\'m going to get and put
some water in it, right?

01:19:08.437 --> 01:19:09.468
Just soak it in?

01:19:09.548 --> 01:19:11.985
Yes.
Not on my finger.

01:19:13.237 --> 01:19:14.287
Okay.

01:19:14.583 --> 01:19:16.131
That\'s all.

01:19:17.887 --> 01:19:19.421
Right in the center.

01:19:20.635 --> 01:19:21.962
You can see in.

01:19:22.244 --> 01:19:24.823
Now, one hand down, one hand pushing.

01:19:24.992 --> 01:19:28.974
You keep your hands wet
and brace your elbows on your knees,

01:19:29.171 --> 01:19:30.894
and your knees against the wheel.

01:19:31.058 --> 01:19:32.752
My knees against the wheel?

01:19:32.898 --> 01:19:34.912
I don\'t know.

01:19:38.644 --> 01:19:39.736
What are you doing?

01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:41.901
I\'m making a pancake.

01:19:42.004 --> 01:19:43.242
Wait a second.

01:19:43.604 --> 01:19:44.738
There.

01:19:57.275 --> 01:20:02.343
[playing saxophone]

01:20:20.324 --> 01:20:26.028
[music]

01:20:38.423 --> 01:20:39.750
Do you know Old Devil Moon?

01:20:39.844 --> 01:20:42.371
Well, how does it go?

01:20:42.475 --> 01:20:43.647
[music]

01:20:43.731 --> 01:20:47.171
I looked at you and suddenly

01:20:48.588 --> 01:20:52.456
Something in your eyes I see

01:20:52.649 --> 01:20:57.185
Soon begins bewitching me

01:20:58.597 --> 01:21:01.298
It\'s that old devil moon

01:21:01.411 --> 01:21:04.334
That you stole from the skies

01:21:04.437 --> 01:21:09.618
It\'s that old devil moon in your eyes

01:21:09.788 --> 01:21:15.364
[music]

01:21:16.141 --> 01:21:22.442
You and your glance makes
this romance too hot to handle

01:21:22.677 --> 01:21:28.912
Stars in the night blazin\' their light
can\'t hold a candle

01:21:29.007 --> 01:21:34.978
To your razzle dazzle
you\'ve got me flyin\' high and wide

01:21:35.082 --> 01:21:37.792
On a magic carpet ride

01:21:37.915 --> 01:21:41.990
Full of butterflies inside

01:21:42.075 --> 01:21:47.505
Wanna cry, wanna croon

01:21:47.618 --> 01:21:51.336
Wanna laugh like a loon

01:21:51.444 --> 01:21:54.945
It\'s that old devil moon

01:21:55.101 --> 01:21:57.524
It\'s that old devil moon in your eyes

01:21:57.727 --> 01:22:00.254
Just when I think I\'m free as a dove

01:22:00.381 --> 01:22:05.830
Old devil moon deep in your eyes

01:22:05.957 --> 01:22:12.536
Blinds me with love

01:22:55.567 --> 01:22:58.320
Did the Navajos
leave any building to you?

01:22:59.035 --> 01:23:00.767
Yes, but they were torn down.

01:23:00.894 --> 01:23:04.080
They dynamited it out,
all the whole guns.

01:23:06.941 --> 01:23:08.738
They still live up on the meso tops.

01:23:12.512 --> 01:23:14.070
Did you know your grandfather?

01:23:14.658 --> 01:23:18.089
No, he was killed before I was born.

01:23:19.270 --> 01:23:23.280
He was shot by a Navajo
about a half mile from this spot.

01:23:24.249 --> 01:23:26.748
His home is about a quarter mile
behind us.

01:23:27.364 --> 01:23:29.134
He didn\'t get along with the Navajos?

01:23:29.915 --> 01:23:32.221
No, we got along well with the Navajos.

01:23:32.588 --> 01:23:35.510
Almost everybody else
in this graveyard is Navajo.

01:23:35.694 --> 01:23:37.218
Then how did he get killed?

01:23:38.065 --> 01:23:41.957
It was mostly over misunderstanding.

01:23:42.536 --> 01:23:44.828
The event that led to his death

01:23:44.922 --> 01:23:47.684
was over a horse
that the Navajo stole from him

01:23:48.131 --> 01:23:51.218
and the rumor was spread

01:23:51.317 --> 01:23:56.936
that Richard Wetherill
had killed this Navajo man.

01:23:57.609 --> 01:24:01.369
Later he was confronted
by two Navajos

01:24:01.807 --> 01:24:03.915
and they got him a little dispute,

01:24:04.131 --> 01:24:06.028
and he took one of the guns
away from him

01:24:06.131 --> 01:24:09.755
and broke the gun, and went on his way.

01:24:10.832 --> 01:24:15.534
Then the next day,
he was just down the canyon

01:24:15.967 --> 01:24:17.934
and he couldn\'t see on top of the meso

01:24:18.018 --> 01:24:19.741
because the sun was on his eyes.

01:24:20.023 --> 01:24:21.741
He was shot from the meso.

01:24:32.978 --> 01:24:34.922
It makes me scared for him

01:24:35.101 --> 01:24:38.235
because we don\'t know
what\'s going on inside of him at all.

01:24:39.275 --> 01:24:41.745
I can\'t even figure out
whether it\'s him or us.

01:24:41.887 --> 01:24:46.103
That makes us understand
and I feel afraid for him.

01:24:53.496 --> 01:24:54.837
He\'s probably afraid too.

01:24:55.670 --> 01:24:59.101
He\'s probably afraid to get back
into being with people

01:24:59.171 --> 01:25:00.522
and being warm with people.

01:25:00.635 --> 01:25:04.211
It\'s being able to accept that warmth
and touching.

01:25:04.715 --> 01:25:06.640
When I got out, I couldn\'t touch anybody

01:25:06.752 --> 01:25:09.007
and I couldn\'t stand anybody touching me.

01:25:09.162 --> 01:25:12.437
I worry about it
and I read Emma Goldman\'s book.

01:25:12.602 --> 01:25:14.437
She talks about Alexander Bergman.

01:25:14.757 --> 01:25:16.221
He did 14 years.

01:25:16.329 --> 01:25:19.948
When he came out and he didn\'t know
how to be with people at all,

01:25:20.089 --> 01:25:21.792
so they sent him on a speaking trip.

01:25:21.891 --> 01:25:25.072
he went to different cities,
very flipped out, but he did it.

01:25:25.261 --> 01:25:27.750
Until one night
he was speaking somewhere

01:25:27.849 --> 01:25:29.727
and they put him up in this farmhouse

01:25:29.783 --> 01:25:30.828
and it was crowded.

01:25:30.931 --> 01:25:32.696
He woke up in the middle of the night

01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:34.710
and they had put somebody else
on bed with him.

01:25:34.814 --> 01:25:36.710
He just freaked out, disappeared.

01:25:39.303 --> 01:25:42.517
Somehow it doesn\'t seem as if
that happened to you when you got out.

01:26:04.480 --> 01:26:06.809
Walking around here all day
I\'ve been feeling

01:26:06.927 --> 01:26:08.809
that I can make a home some place.

01:26:09.383 --> 01:26:10.894
Put down some roots.

01:26:15.825 --> 01:26:17.463
Get to know some people.

01:26:17.910 --> 01:26:19.270
Get to know them well.

01:26:31.868 --> 01:26:35.760
[TV playing]

01:26:36.023 --> 01:26:38.630
I was flipped out, you just didn\'t see it.

01:26:39.661 --> 01:26:41.044
That was hard for me.

01:26:41.618 --> 01:26:44.621
I figured well, okay,
if I\'m going to relate to people

01:26:44.710 --> 01:26:46.922
I got to to find some way to do it,
some work to do.

01:26:47.021 --> 01:26:49.708
I found this spot
and I started doing some work.

01:26:49.868 --> 01:26:51.567
Basically it\'s what I\'m doing.

01:26:51.712 --> 01:26:57.392
Yes, there\'s also the ego thing
that for you it wasn\'t so degrading

01:26:57.741 --> 01:27:00.334
or it\'s such a shock
to have it be so degrading.

01:27:00.470 --> 01:27:04.531
For a man, with that kind of pride
and the kind of ego,

01:27:05.745 --> 01:27:07.623
it just must be a total wipe out,

01:27:07.741 --> 01:27:09.971
to get treated just like a piece of shit.

01:27:10.230 --> 01:27:12.597
I don\'t know, Peter must be being pulled

01:27:12.691 --> 01:27:14.456
in so many different directions right now.

01:27:14.541 --> 01:27:16.117
You\'re pulling in.

01:27:16.188 --> 01:27:17.195
His father.

01:27:17.308 --> 01:27:18.381
His father, right?

01:27:18.465 --> 01:27:20.828
His father figures well,
he\'s finished his time,

01:27:20.922 --> 01:27:22.258
he\'s going to start something new.

01:27:22.329 --> 01:27:24.112
He\'s probably willing to get him a job.

01:27:24.249 --> 01:27:27.265
There\'s this thing,
white society just reaches out.

01:27:27.435 --> 01:27:28.870
He takes his boy back.

01:27:29.011 --> 01:27:32.127
He always ready to take him back
like a big cushion.

01:27:32.856 --> 01:27:35.289
That\'s it, we\'re done.
Let\'s put them in my pocket.

01:27:36.414 --> 01:27:37.934
It\'s just a pot chards.

01:27:39.604 --> 01:27:41.044
It\'s a corn cub.

01:27:41.670 --> 01:27:42.950
What about this one?

01:27:44.536 --> 01:27:46.903
Oh, wow. That\'s a turquoise bean.

01:27:47.698 --> 01:27:49.727
That\'s got power for you.

01:27:52.108 --> 01:27:55.228
They lived in these mesos,
high mesos in deserts.

01:27:55.614 --> 01:27:58.131
That\'s because their basic beliefs
are so strong,

01:27:58.254 --> 01:28:03.129
it\'s being one people
and having one communal spirit,

01:28:03.232 --> 01:28:06.004
one thing to follow
that they believe in very strongly

01:28:06.974 --> 01:28:09.877
and that\'s what keeps them Navajo.

01:28:10.122 --> 01:28:12.898
They call themselves the Diné
which means \"the people.\"

01:28:15.957 --> 01:28:19.454
[animals baaing]

01:28:32.974 --> 01:28:35.341
I don\'t know how long it would last.

01:28:36.992 --> 01:28:42.974
[crickets chirping]

01:29:47.924 --> 01:29:49.609
Can I talk to you for a minute?

01:29:49.722 --> 01:29:50.903
What do you want?

01:29:51.021 --> 01:29:52.221
Not much.

01:29:52.320 --> 01:29:53.600
Just to talk for a minute.

01:29:53.675 --> 01:29:56.155
I\'m going to see somebody
right down the hall.

01:29:56.277 --> 01:29:58.456
Just right down the hall expecting me.

01:29:58.800 --> 01:29:59.807
Hey.

01:29:59.929 --> 01:30:01.807
I just want to talk for a minute.

01:30:02.752 --> 01:30:04.225
Leave me alone.

01:30:20.155 --> 01:30:22.070
You know what I want, do you?

01:30:32.268 --> 01:30:34.051
Go on. Go on.

01:30:46.865 --> 01:30:48.277
What is your name?

01:30:49.200 --> 01:30:50.607
Gail.

01:31:09.665 --> 01:31:11.421
Listen, Gail.

01:31:13.736 --> 01:31:15.623
You\'re going to suck my cock.

01:31:24.315 --> 01:31:25.557
John.

01:31:26.310 --> 01:31:27.496
Gail.

01:31:28.042 --> 01:31:29.101
John.

01:31:29.190 --> 01:31:30.291
Gail. Where are you?

01:31:30.381 --> 01:31:31.600
John.

01:31:32.983 --> 01:31:35.040
Gail, Gail.
Watch out, he\'s got a gun.

01:31:35.251 --> 01:31:37.369
Don\'t shoot.

01:31:37.844 --> 01:31:39.134
Gail.

01:31:42.400 --> 01:31:43.840
Are you okay?

01:31:44.047 --> 01:31:45.567
Oh, you did it?

01:31:48.164 --> 01:31:49.303
We should go with this.

01:31:49.430 --> 01:31:51.840
You want us to--
All right, I could bring the ladder.

01:31:51.924 --> 01:31:53.030
Or the bench.

01:31:53.157 --> 01:31:54.889
No, bring me the ladder.

01:31:58.098 --> 01:31:59.134
Hold on.

01:31:59.275 --> 01:32:00.607
Did that hurt you?
No.

01:32:00.701 --> 01:32:02.809
Take a couple of these, okay?

01:32:08.654 --> 01:32:11.618
I thought,
\"Why shouldn\'t I be having nightmares?\"

01:32:12.964 --> 01:32:15.755
It\'s not actually so much bad omens.

01:32:16.715 --> 01:32:19.567
It\'s bad stories about the things
we are subjected to.

01:32:21.312 --> 01:32:24.141
I want to listen to those stories, quietly.

01:32:24.687 --> 01:32:28.541
I want to learn from them
and then let them go by.

01:32:28.945 --> 01:32:34.089
[TV playing]

01:33:01.967 --> 01:33:04.814
I couldn\'t say anything to him.

01:33:10.489 --> 01:33:13.350
You can take the pot
and hold it with your fingertips

01:33:13.477 --> 01:33:15.063
and then roll it down.

01:33:15.910 --> 01:33:19.736
I just felt I should say something,
just anything to save me.

01:33:20.174 --> 01:33:21.769
[?]

01:33:21.910 --> 01:33:25.524
No, I didn\'t even finish eating,
so I must go.

01:33:26.291 --> 01:33:30.190
Well, remember that time
a couple weeks ago?

01:33:30.851 --> 01:33:34.752
The thing that they tried to get me
on that [?] everything

01:33:35.816 --> 01:33:38.338
when I was in the back with them.

01:33:38.734 --> 01:33:39.792
Yes.

01:33:40.037 --> 01:33:42.423
Remember the black cop
that walked in last?

01:33:42.574 --> 01:33:44.305
I didn\'t know there were cops though.

01:33:44.423 --> 01:33:45.811
They were just cops.

01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:47.044
Yes, they were.

01:33:47.143 --> 01:33:49.948
Last night I kept waking up
and hearing you talking,

01:33:50.037 --> 01:33:51.962
I couldn\'t hear what you were saying.

01:33:52.061 --> 01:33:53.618
What, an ache.

01:33:55.543 --> 01:33:57.317
I\'m going to be just fine.

01:34:03.110 --> 01:34:04.051
John.

01:34:04.160 --> 01:34:05.534
Oh, Gail.

01:34:05.642 --> 01:34:13.002
[background noise]

01:34:21.063 --> 01:34:23.609
Hey, John, we should glazen the pots.

01:34:25.087 --> 01:34:27.162
Could you come by tomorrow afternoon

01:34:27.265 --> 01:34:31.567
and help me unload the kilt,
and we could fire Rocco\'s pots too.

01:34:31.722 --> 01:34:32.955
Sure.

01:34:33.872 --> 01:34:35.002
Good.

01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:39.044
One part of your body
and start exaggerating that.

01:34:40.870 --> 01:34:42.136
That\'s right.

01:34:42.428 --> 01:34:48.348
Don\'t forget your chins,
elbows, hands, and neck.

01:34:49.138 --> 01:34:51.910
Still I decided to have a baby.

01:34:52.851 --> 01:34:57.369
I suppose I thought
I was looking to some new direction.

01:34:58.418 --> 01:35:00.456
Maybe I was just running away

01:35:01.830 --> 01:35:04.470
and not taking responsibility
for my own life.

01:35:06.070 --> 01:35:07.534
After all that time, what?

01:35:07.650 --> 01:35:10.023
Eight years I took care of Alan and the kids,

01:35:11.265 --> 01:35:14.042
but I asked myself, \"What are you doing?\"

01:35:14.790 --> 01:35:16.922
I\'ve lived for a while in a commune.

01:35:17.016 --> 01:35:20.616
I moved to the city,
I have a job with a newspaper.

01:35:20.705 --> 01:35:24.324
I practice aikido, I keep a diary.

01:35:25.049 --> 01:35:26.823
I go to a woman\'s group.

01:35:26.931 --> 01:35:28.541
I visit with friends.

01:35:29.524 --> 01:35:31.515
I go for long walks.

01:35:32.545 --> 01:35:34.418
I don\'t feel lonely.

01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:42.197
It\'s really what America feels like to me.

01:35:42.936 --> 01:35:47.524
It grinds me down, eats away at me.

01:35:49.195 --> 01:35:52.023
Eats away at my dreams
and Larry\'s dreams.

01:35:53.270 --> 01:35:55.289
Everything that we want and work for.

01:35:55.698 --> 01:35:57.571
But nothing is clear now.

01:35:58.625 --> 01:36:00.470
No, it\'s not clear.

01:36:01.632 --> 01:36:05.614
It doesn\'t seem it\'s going to get
any clearer soon either.

01:36:05.807 --> 01:36:07.214
I don\'t think so.

01:36:08.343 --> 01:36:10.240
I wanted to do theater well.

01:36:10.475 --> 01:36:12.047
A theater could\'ve worked.

01:36:12.230 --> 01:36:17.185
It\'s important for us to reach out,
to stretch, explore.

01:36:18.555 --> 01:36:20.809
It\'s a form that made sense to me.

01:36:22.465 --> 01:36:25.444
It\'s a kind of free energy
that communicated to other people.

01:36:26.776 --> 01:36:29.882
Fresh air, future smells.

01:36:31.628 --> 01:36:37.289
We were good strong women
and we really gave to people.

01:36:37.868 --> 01:36:40.263
I\'m afraid of losing all of that.

01:36:40.903 --> 01:36:42.263
Come on give me a drink.

01:36:42.338 --> 01:36:43.802
Come on.
No, no.

01:36:43.901 --> 01:36:45.454
This is serious. I need to talk.

01:36:45.552 --> 01:36:47.087
I\'m really leaving.

01:36:47.237 --> 01:36:51.915
I\'ve had bills from collectors,
creditors, salesmen, everything.

01:36:52.023 --> 01:36:53.416
It\'s no good.

01:36:54.370 --> 01:36:56.795
I know it\'s no good.
Listen, it\'s no good for me either.

01:36:57.623 --> 01:36:59.515
This place doesn\'t make any money.

01:37:00.917 --> 01:37:03.190
I\'m going to fall in couple of months,
you know that.

01:37:03.289 --> 01:37:04.955
We\'re lucky if I last six.

01:37:06.263 --> 01:37:08.051
I\'m not trusting any but you.

01:37:08.235 --> 01:37:09.576
You know that.

01:37:09.905 --> 01:37:12.724
If I come in with a hangover,
who will run the operation?

01:37:12.818 --> 01:37:13.891
You do.

01:37:14.216 --> 01:37:16.912
Come on, stick with me
a couple months more.

01:37:17.280 --> 01:37:18.607
No, I can\'t.

01:37:18.894 --> 01:37:20.936
I\'ll train somebody to replace me.

01:37:21.190 --> 01:37:24.329
I want to go now while we\'re still friends.

01:37:24.541 --> 01:37:28.287
It\'s going to be the same thing,
like a month or six months.

01:37:28.465 --> 01:37:31.623
It\'s no good, I want to go now
while I\'m determined.

01:37:31.981 --> 01:37:32.912
Sure.

01:37:32.990 --> 01:37:34.324
You see me. I walked in here.

01:37:34.414 --> 01:37:36.117
The place was jumping, full of people,

01:37:36.197 --> 01:37:37.816
everybody\'s drinking, good musicians.

01:37:37.896 --> 01:37:39.816
Yes, a lot doesn\'t happen anymore.

01:37:40.540 --> 01:37:42.894
Most of the time
I got to work myself up to get in here.

01:37:43.011 --> 01:37:45.929
You know I can do plenty of things.
You know that better than most people.

01:37:46.010 --> 01:37:50.244
What do I wind up doing in this country?
Having a joint like this, where am I at?

01:37:50.367 --> 01:37:53.312
What am I supposed to be doing?
Let\'s not get into any scenes.

01:37:53.571 --> 01:37:56.423
We are different people
and we\'re into different things.

01:37:56.517 --> 01:37:59.520
Right now, the thing for me to do,
is to get out of here.

01:37:59.665 --> 01:38:03.007
It isn\'t comfortable anymore,
I\'ve got to go.

01:38:04.183 --> 01:38:05.270
Yes.

01:38:07.901 --> 01:38:09.265
It is a tree.

01:38:09.360 --> 01:38:10.691
What\'s going on in here?

01:38:10.790 --> 01:38:15.684
There are two big trees
and there are a lot of huge sculptures.

01:38:16.037 --> 01:38:17.214
Right here.

01:38:17.369 --> 01:38:18.818
It\'s a pot shop, right?

01:38:18.910 --> 01:38:20.710
No. It has some pots.

01:38:20.809 --> 01:38:22.216
Why did we come here?

01:38:22.404 --> 01:38:24.729
Look right here,
there\'s a wood sculpture.

01:38:24.832 --> 01:38:26.065
You feel that?

01:38:26.263 --> 01:38:29.077
It\'s a highly functional piece.

01:38:29.656 --> 01:38:33.487
It could be used as a hat rack?

01:38:33.985 --> 01:38:35.129
It\'s really bizarre.

01:38:35.195 --> 01:38:36.456
Is there any pottery here?

01:38:36.545 --> 01:38:39.181
I think there are some pots
on the floor over here.

01:38:39.317 --> 01:38:44.376
You can get around here
through this maze of plants and sculptures.

01:38:45.124 --> 01:38:50.418
This is a hanging rug?

01:38:50.569 --> 01:38:55.858
Seriously, it\'s a big wall-hanging rug.

01:38:56.122 --> 01:38:57.689
Be careful walking through here

01:38:57.769 --> 01:39:01.858
and we have go
through this 10 foot of iron arch.

01:39:03.289 --> 01:39:04.992
Watch your head.

01:39:05.171 --> 01:39:06.357
Be careful.

01:39:06.470 --> 01:39:08.230
You got to duck.
Okay.

01:39:10.512 --> 01:39:14.696
There are few more pots down here
on the wooden blocks on the floor.

01:39:15.811 --> 01:39:17.990
What are these little lumps?

01:39:18.498 --> 01:39:21.345
The pot has leprosy.

01:39:21.684 --> 01:39:23.792
Maybe let\'s find another store.

01:39:26.555 --> 01:39:28.414
Okay, but you\'re also particular.

01:39:28.510 --> 01:39:30.955
No. If you think it\'s a good store,
you should tell me.

01:39:31.040 --> 01:39:32.955
No, it\'s not a good store.
It has junk in it.

01:39:33.054 --> 01:39:37.811
I have never seen a store
that had stuff in it that I liked.

01:39:37.967 --> 01:39:39.689
Oh, Sal.

01:39:46.108 --> 01:39:48.640
Walking around in Detroit this time,

01:39:53.557 --> 01:39:56.404
things haven\'t changed that much
since 1967.

01:39:56.484 --> 01:39:57.661
Yes, right.

01:39:57.755 --> 01:40:00.978
I don\'t really know,
I work with black people on the line,

01:40:01.218 --> 01:40:02.734
but it\'s like separate lives.

01:40:02.894 --> 01:40:06.635
We work even in the organization
together, the union stuff.

01:40:06.748 --> 01:40:08.550
They go home and I go home.

01:40:08.672 --> 01:40:11.905
There aren\'t much ties
because of all these intervening years,

01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:14.729
the black people been
getting themselves together.

01:40:14.837 --> 01:40:16.240
It\'s a black city.

01:40:16.592 --> 01:40:19.482
They just elected a political organization,
much heavier.

01:40:19.571 --> 01:40:21.190
They just elected a black mayor,

01:40:21.548 --> 01:40:23.901
economically more money
in the community

01:40:24.004 --> 01:40:26.475
and more control,
more service organizations,

01:40:26.658 --> 01:40:29.656
and a different level
of consciousness growing up.

01:40:29.741 --> 01:40:31.816
Not too long ago there was a guy

01:40:31.924 --> 01:40:34.861
that was accused of shoot his foreman

01:40:34.969 --> 01:40:36.616
and they beat it, he beat it, right?

01:40:36.705 --> 01:40:38.701
His defense was that it was self-defense

01:40:38.809 --> 01:40:41.825
because of the incredible conditions
that he had to work on.

01:40:41.915 --> 01:40:44.767
They took the jury like a tour in the plant

01:40:44.851 --> 01:40:47.656
and everything
and the man beat it, it\'s incredible.

01:40:47.722 --> 01:40:49.505
I can only get out of that.

01:40:49.595 --> 01:40:51.722
It\'s a new level of thinking the way

01:40:51.825 --> 01:40:53.647
people what\'s criminal and what ain\'t.

01:40:53.712 --> 01:40:54.790
Yes, sure.

01:40:58.734 --> 01:41:03.425
It has all windows along this side
that are full of pots.

01:41:03.632 --> 01:41:05.068
Should we go in?

01:41:05.157 --> 01:41:06.781
Well, sure.

01:41:06.880 --> 01:41:11.200
One place is as loony as the other,
but it\'s really hunky place.

01:41:11.727 --> 01:41:13.590
We\'ve got to find someplace.

01:41:13.764 --> 01:41:15.562
The one place we\'ve been working with,

01:41:15.656 --> 01:41:17.251
it\'s no longer working.

01:41:18.061 --> 01:41:20.945
It\'s like commodity sales.

01:41:22.475 --> 01:41:24.917
Listen, every joint has a bad day.

01:41:26.268 --> 01:41:29.298
Listen, alright, send your nephew in
for an audition.

01:41:29.783 --> 01:41:31.002
Who gives a shit?

01:41:31.280 --> 01:41:32.597
All right.

01:41:33.148 --> 01:41:35.774
Listen, I promise I\'ll sign you an IOU.

01:41:36.894 --> 01:41:38.456
Send the man in.

01:41:39.863 --> 01:41:40.978
Come on.

01:41:41.821 --> 01:41:43.072
Come on here, please.

01:41:43.237 --> 01:41:44.437
Don\'t give me a hard time.

01:41:44.522 --> 01:41:46.183
Everybody\'s giving me a hard time.

01:41:46.291 --> 01:41:48.155
Hi. Who do I speak to about getting a job?

01:41:48.244 --> 01:41:49.331
I know.

01:41:49.425 --> 01:41:50.555
Well, you talk to him.

01:41:50.644 --> 01:41:52.555
He\'s busy now.

01:41:52.927 --> 01:41:55.440
Well, maybe you\'ll get him
in between the calls, okay?

01:41:57.181 --> 01:42:00.555
If you just send the delivery
on Monday, as usual,

01:42:00.621 --> 01:42:02.169
you will get your money.

01:42:02.291 --> 01:42:06.305
I came to ask you
about a job playing music.

01:42:06.404 --> 01:42:07.896
It\'s not the time now, is it?

01:42:07.990 --> 01:42:09.755
Look at the goddamn hour today.

01:42:10.141 --> 01:42:11.614
All right, sit down over there.

01:42:11.700 --> 01:42:14.075
I\'ll be finished in a few minutes. Come on.
Okay, thanks.

01:42:14.150 --> 01:42:16.004
Some guy\'s here looking for a job.

01:42:16.141 --> 01:42:18.988
Well, I don\'t know why the hell
he\'s coming at 12 o\'clock for.

01:42:29.722 --> 01:42:32.338
Gail, no more calls this morning, please.

01:42:32.456 --> 01:42:34.898
Give me bourbon
or something that kept me awake.

01:42:35.411 --> 01:42:36.376
Christ.

01:42:36.978 --> 01:42:37.863
Yes.

01:42:38.169 --> 01:42:39.896
I want to get a job playing music.

01:42:40.065 --> 01:42:43.275
I play guitar, harmonica, blues.

01:42:43.482 --> 01:42:44.635
Anything else?

01:42:45.030 --> 01:42:46.301
I sing.

01:42:46.395 --> 01:42:49.063
Well, listen,
I have regular entertainment here.

01:42:49.181 --> 01:42:50.498
Excuse me.

01:42:50.588 --> 01:42:51.661
Thanks.

01:42:51.731 --> 01:42:53.840
How many cakes
do you want for the weekend?

01:42:53.934 --> 01:42:56.894
Give me a dozen cakes
or something like that.

01:42:56.990 --> 01:42:58.960
Yes. I got a house band. They play first set,

01:42:59.049 --> 01:43:01.204
then they take a break
so the customers can drink,

01:43:01.298 --> 01:43:03.195
and then comes on
the feature entertainment.

01:43:03.275 --> 01:43:05.007
That\'s it, I got no place. Sorry.

01:43:05.430 --> 01:43:07.275
Well, I can play in between the sets

01:43:07.355 --> 01:43:08.880
and you can see how I sound like.

01:43:08.980 --> 01:43:11.345
No, the point is in between the sets
I want the customers to drink

01:43:11.416 --> 01:43:13.294
because they don\'t drink
when the entertainment is on.

01:43:13.360 --> 01:43:15.171
Do you understand?
That\'s what, what do you think?

01:43:15.247 --> 01:43:19.134
I could wait on tables
and hang around here,

01:43:19.242 --> 01:43:20.767
and if you have a chance to listen to me.

01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:23.162
That\'s a little different.
I don\'t know about anything else.

01:43:23.240 --> 01:43:25.312
I could use a waiter. Very simple, out of sight.

01:43:25.410 --> 01:43:26.729
It would be 6.50 a night, tips.

01:43:26.828 --> 01:43:29.440
Don\'t let me catch you
stealing from the customers.

01:43:29.529 --> 01:43:30.912
If you want to be the waiter, it\'s okay.

01:43:30.990 --> 01:43:33.957
Joe, the meat guy is on the phone.
What do you want me to tell him?

01:43:34.047 --> 01:43:36.602
Tell him, some good chopped meat
or something,

01:43:36.682 --> 01:43:38.672
but would you do me a favor
to remind me?

01:43:38.781 --> 01:43:41.637
If you could just get the chef
to lay on a decent sandwich

01:43:41.731 --> 01:43:44.028
that the customers
are paying a buck and a half

01:43:44.131 --> 01:43:45.835
for two slices of meat that he\'s putting on.

01:43:45.915 --> 01:43:47.783
If he doesn\'t see it,
get the girls to tell him.

01:43:47.882 --> 01:43:49.237
Don\'t bring a shitty sandwich.

01:43:49.308 --> 01:43:50.865
We won\'t get the customers back anymore.

01:43:50.945 --> 01:43:52.296
You live a rough life, man.

01:43:52.705 --> 01:43:54.437
Don\'t be smart
about the kind of life I live.

01:43:54.531 --> 01:43:55.750
You want to be a waiter, it\'s okay.

01:43:55.821 --> 01:43:58.075
You come in here, 6.50 a night,
you could start tomorrow.

01:43:58.150 --> 01:44:00.051
That\'s okay.
Tips, again, I\'m going to remind you,

01:44:00.141 --> 01:44:01.755
don\'t let me catch you
[?] with the customers.

01:44:01.840 --> 01:44:03.680
Okay, but if there\'s a slot
for me to play in--

01:44:03.764 --> 01:44:05.454
I ain\'t promise you anything about the music.

01:44:05.524 --> 01:44:07.011
If you\'re in there, something\'s going down.

01:44:07.082 --> 01:44:08.362
I only hear music early in the day.

01:44:08.437 --> 01:44:10.404
I can\'t listen before 7 o\'clock at night.
You got it?

01:44:10.490 --> 01:44:12.715
Okay. There\'s a possibility
that I\'ll be able to play?

01:44:12.790 --> 01:44:14.098
I ain\'t promising. Whatever it is.

01:44:14.178 --> 01:44:15.858
Bring the goddamn machine in here.

01:44:16.075 --> 01:44:17.524
That was a nice hitchhike, huh?

01:44:17.600 --> 01:44:18.635
Yes.

01:44:22.207 --> 01:44:24.677
What do you think about
that guy that picked us up?

01:44:24.752 --> 01:44:26.169
I thought he was good.

01:44:26.494 --> 01:44:28.131
Yes. He gave us a long ride.

01:44:28.216 --> 01:44:29.642
It wasn\'t hard to get here.

01:44:29.745 --> 01:44:30.781
No.

01:44:35.943 --> 01:44:39.529
The tide is going to be
about 10 o\'clock tomorrow.

01:44:39.797 --> 01:44:44.494
We get to get out on the mudflats,
take some clams and eat them.

01:44:45.035 --> 01:44:52.131
[background noise]

01:45:25.129 --> 01:45:27.581
Remember that time
you came over to my house?

01:45:27.731 --> 01:45:31.614
I was in transit that I recruited action
and I was going out of town.

01:45:31.740 --> 01:45:34.574
Yes. That\'s when we bought over
that paper we just started.

01:45:34.658 --> 01:45:37.091
That was the time we talked a lot

01:45:37.185 --> 01:45:40.432
about what we were doing
in each our separate places

01:45:40.520 --> 01:45:43.101
and where we were going,
and what the future is going to be like.

01:45:43.190 --> 01:45:44.983
That was really an incredible time

01:45:45.077 --> 01:45:46.955
[?] with so much energy going around,

01:45:47.058 --> 01:45:50.287
and movement all over the country,
and where we were.

01:45:50.371 --> 01:45:53.995
It seemed like we were like
the center of things in some ways.

01:45:54.084 --> 01:45:55.496
Maybe.

01:45:55.703 --> 01:45:57.910
I remember
the Washington demonstrations

01:45:58.032 --> 01:46:00.362
and the days of rage, and the Panthers,

01:46:00.480 --> 01:46:03.675
and the Chicago conspiracy,
and the local stuff,

01:46:03.764 --> 01:46:06.258
anti-imperialist, there\'s complicity stuff.

01:46:06.828 --> 01:46:07.618
Oh, wow.

01:46:07.712 --> 01:46:14.221
It seems like maybe people never quite,

01:46:14.635 --> 01:46:16.178
they were through from that.

01:46:16.527 --> 01:46:21.703
It seems like we never learned
how the importance

01:46:21.797 --> 01:46:26.098
and the necessity
of living close to your values

01:46:26.207 --> 01:46:27.472
in a revolutionary way

01:46:27.548 --> 01:46:30.343
at the same time that
you were struggling in the streets.

01:46:30.658 --> 01:46:32.847
Maybe you and Amber learned that better.

01:46:32.917 --> 01:46:34.098
It\'s hard to say.

01:46:34.207 --> 01:46:38.945
I guess now people are preparing
for the next time around,

01:46:39.101 --> 01:46:44.494
that dichotomy won\'t exist so much.

01:46:44.898 --> 01:46:45.628
Yes.

01:46:45.731 --> 01:46:48.320
I think one of the things
was that we figured out

01:46:48.658 --> 01:46:52.404
that a revolution
was not just a series of incidents,

01:46:52.484 --> 01:46:54.047
but our whole life.

01:47:03.383 --> 01:47:04.531
No, I think it\'s deep.

01:47:04.625 --> 01:47:05.665
Oh, really?

01:47:08.785 --> 01:47:09.957
It\'s not my mother.

01:47:10.042 --> 01:47:11.609
She\'s not from Chinatown.

01:47:11.840 --> 01:47:13.910
You can just lay that right on here.

01:47:15.896 --> 01:47:16.908
Okay.

01:47:17.308 --> 01:47:18.992
What was it like being with him?

01:47:19.736 --> 01:47:20.908
It was really far out.

01:47:20.983 --> 01:47:23.458
It\'s the first time
I\'ve been with him in over a year.

01:47:23.550 --> 01:47:25.675
He\'s really grown.
He\'s like a different person.

01:47:25.760 --> 01:47:26.724
Well, he\'s five now.

01:47:26.856 --> 01:47:28.169
Yes, he\'s five.

01:47:28.282 --> 01:47:30.588
It was so far out
when he would come in the morning

01:47:30.696 --> 01:47:32.277
jumped up and down on the bed.

01:47:32.381 --> 01:47:34.131
We took some trips together.

01:47:34.263 --> 01:47:36.997
We hitched up to Canada,
that was really fun too.

01:47:37.176 --> 01:47:41.816
I dig being with him
and I think he digs being with me.

01:47:42.602 --> 01:47:44.931
There\'s so many.

01:47:46.437 --> 01:47:49.929
You just got to dig deep enough.

01:47:52.305 --> 01:47:53.821
Did you hear me?
Yes.

01:48:05.741 --> 01:48:08.847
I found a broken one, but good.

01:48:21.265 --> 01:48:25.557
I got to warm my feet up and my hands.

01:48:25.694 --> 01:48:28.018
It would really nice if you want to stay with us.

01:48:28.677 --> 01:48:30.851
What do you think Jane
would feel about that?

01:48:32.329 --> 01:48:33.783
Well, we talked about it.

01:48:34.635 --> 01:48:36.663
She says yes, but I don\'t know.

01:48:38.550 --> 01:48:40.348
How is it between you two?

01:48:40.974 --> 01:48:43.905
We\'re getting locked
into a lot of old stuff.

01:48:44.983 --> 01:48:48.249
Sometimes there is pressure
and it\'s hard to talk.

01:48:49.915 --> 01:48:52.564
I think we\'re not very competitive about him;

01:48:52.630 --> 01:48:54.305
we both dig the kid a lot.

01:48:54.880 --> 01:48:56.687
[?] what Dylan feels though

01:48:56.776 --> 01:48:58.687
when you ran out of his life like that?

01:48:58.795 --> 01:49:00.136
That must be really hard.

01:49:00.371 --> 01:49:02.409
I think it is because when I first see him,

01:49:02.494 --> 01:49:04.470
he\'s very hostile and shy.

01:49:04.715 --> 01:49:07.364
After I\'m there for a while,
he gets really affectionate.

01:49:07.430 --> 01:49:08.465
Oh, nice.

01:49:08.545 --> 01:49:10.089
It\'s hard on me though.

01:49:10.249 --> 01:49:12.861
Every time you just have to start
all over again.

01:49:14.616 --> 01:49:16.400
I don\'t know what\'s he\'s feeling either.

01:49:16.498 --> 01:49:19.567
I tried to be in touch with him,
but it\'s really hard to tell.

01:49:20.183 --> 01:49:22.574
We should really get in touch
with Jane soon,

01:49:22.649 --> 01:49:25.190
and find out what she thinks
about his living here.

01:49:25.792 --> 01:49:27.590
We could ask him too.

01:49:34.611 --> 01:49:37.750
You\'ve been doing acupuncture
with everyone from the ranch?

01:49:38.004 --> 01:49:39.614
Just about everyone.

01:49:39.703 --> 01:49:42.752
First, we\'ve been doing diagnosis
and then treatments.

01:49:43.472 --> 01:49:46.870
I guess as long as I feel
that I\'m part of the process,

01:49:46.955 --> 01:49:50.404
then I feel pretty good about
whatever we worked out together.

01:49:56.042 --> 01:50:04.696
I think I get into being a pilot of this house

01:50:05.298 --> 01:50:07.068
and I like all the people.

01:50:07.877 --> 01:50:09.783
Well, probably pretty interesting.

01:50:10.301 --> 01:50:11.618
That\'s what I say.

01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:17.402
We should just do it
and see how it works out.

01:50:17.534 --> 01:50:19.755
What do you mean just do it?
That\'s great.

01:50:19.854 --> 01:50:22.517
You go off and feed the chickens
and leave us here.

01:50:22.677 --> 01:50:24.442
Well, [crosstalk] see how it works out.

01:50:24.541 --> 01:50:27.209
I like Terry and I want him to live here.

01:50:27.312 --> 01:50:29.821
I\'m really glad you came
to a personal decision about it,

01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:32.320
but we\'ve been having
a conversation all day to try

01:50:32.404 --> 01:50:34.682
and figure it out
and you\'ve been really destructive.

01:50:34.767 --> 01:50:37.011
I\'m just telling you what I feel.

01:50:37.124 --> 01:50:40.211
That\'s all, and you refused
to acknowledge what my feelings are.

01:50:40.315 --> 01:50:41.609
What\'s happening?

01:50:41.698 --> 01:50:43.068
So much negative energy.

01:50:44.569 --> 01:50:46.550
Your attitude\'s obnoxious.

01:50:47.068 --> 01:50:48.442
Maybe Sal is right.

01:50:48.536 --> 01:50:51.195
Maybe he\'s got some feelings
that he hasn\'t thought about yet.

01:50:51.284 --> 01:50:52.837
He sure has.

01:50:53.576 --> 01:50:56.395
I think you guys
should just smoke out a joint and relax.

01:50:56.592 --> 01:50:58.677
California hippie, man.

01:50:58.752 --> 01:51:00.790
Don\'t call up the conversation with your trip?

01:51:00.875 --> 01:51:03.388
Well, don\'t call up the kitchen with your shit.

01:51:04.202 --> 01:51:06.089
I think we were already smoking a joint.

01:51:06.202 --> 01:51:08.564
Let\'s just cut this stuff and go eat.

01:51:08.696 --> 01:51:10.089
Okay.

01:51:10.170 --> 01:51:12.263
Listen, man.
I want to live with you people.

01:51:14.903 --> 01:51:16.870
Maybe not.
Come on.

01:51:19.063 --> 01:51:20.442
I wish it was clear

01:51:20.555 --> 01:51:23.604
how we were going to spend
some more time together, work together.

01:51:23.712 --> 01:51:25.868
Try to think about some stuff together.

01:51:27.661 --> 01:51:29.552
I don\'t know, I found it hard traveling.

01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:32.188
I get into the land going by outside

01:51:32.395 --> 01:51:36.268
so much history, so many crimes,
and smashed dreams.

01:51:36.894 --> 01:51:39.708
I\'ve been reading the voice history
of John Brown.

01:51:40.080 --> 01:51:41.388
It\'s amazing.

01:51:41.534 --> 01:51:43.388
It really blows my mind.

01:51:44.348 --> 01:51:46.174
His determination really,

01:51:46.752 --> 01:51:50.983
his understanding of injustice in the world,

01:51:51.336 --> 01:51:54.710
and inside of that
is his sense of humanity.

01:51:55.924 --> 01:51:59.520
There are so many little things
about his relationship with his kids

01:51:59.957 --> 01:52:02.084
when I compare him with Leif and I,

01:52:02.550 --> 01:52:06.390
I just want to open up so much more
of my life to the world.

01:52:08.352 --> 01:52:09.764
I was just reading this.

01:52:09.924 --> 01:52:13.190
It was after Harper\'s Ferry,
he was being taken to be hung.

01:52:14.752 --> 01:52:17.322
John Brown wrote out into this morning.

01:52:18.098 --> 01:52:19.952
\"This is a beautiful land,\" he said.

01:52:20.084 --> 01:52:21.698
It was beautiful.

01:52:22.277 --> 01:52:26.536
Wide glistening rolling fields
instill a fire rose

01:52:26.607 --> 01:52:28.832
and mighty masses of the Blue Ridge.

01:52:29.077 --> 01:52:32.305
The Blue Ridge where Nat Turner
had fought and died

01:52:32.461 --> 01:52:35.185
or Gabriel Prosser had looked for refuge

01:52:35.684 --> 01:52:38.715
and where John Brown
had built his dream.

01:52:48.800 --> 01:52:51.143
I\'ve had my ups and downs lately.

01:52:53.120 --> 01:52:57.040
Got a couple of things
I\'ve got to get straightened out.

01:52:58.432 --> 01:52:59.952
You people don\'t even know me.

01:53:00.065 --> 01:53:01.952
You don\'t know what I\'m like.

01:53:02.734 --> 01:53:08.047
No, I wouldn\'t want to surprise you
or shock you now.

01:53:09.948 --> 01:53:12.484
It doesn\'t have to be
this permanent definite thing.

01:53:13.632 --> 01:53:17.176
We can try something out, begin,
and see what happens, yes.

01:53:17.350 --> 01:53:18.329
That\'s cool.

01:53:18.456 --> 01:53:21.317
I don\'t think we want
to be shocked, particularly,

01:53:22.837 --> 01:53:27.454
but also that\'s what
I was trying to say to you all day.

01:53:28.249 --> 01:53:29.962
What did you just say?

01:53:32.216 --> 01:53:33.529
I don\'t know.

01:53:33.830 --> 01:53:36.687
I got this hassle down in Virginia

01:53:36.785 --> 01:53:40.409
at the Somme got in an argument
with the foreman.

01:53:42.574 --> 01:53:44.164
What happened?

01:53:44.512 --> 01:53:48.842
The guy was an asshole
and gave everybody a hard time.

01:53:49.854 --> 01:53:55.350
One day, we had it out.

01:53:55.680 --> 01:53:58.672
I tried to kill him, tried to kill the guy.

01:53:58.771 --> 01:54:00.202
He pissed me off that much.

01:54:06.696 --> 01:54:09.985
Now, the guys got a warrant out
for my arrest,

01:54:12.484 --> 01:54:16.065
so I got to deal with that.

01:54:16.964 --> 01:54:18.682
Okay, how can I live anywhere?

01:54:19.952 --> 01:54:21.534
Well, don\'t think

01:54:21.981 --> 01:54:25.152
that they\'re going to trace you
from Virginia up here.

01:54:25.520 --> 01:54:28.028
I just think that you should move in with us

01:54:28.324 --> 01:54:30.028
and we\'ll work it out.

01:54:31.792 --> 01:54:34.560
Yes, I also don\'t understand.

01:54:35.021 --> 01:54:38.635
It sounds like excuses
on the one hand then,

01:54:38.710 --> 01:54:42.009
on the other hand, you keep saying
that you want to live with us.

01:54:42.578 --> 01:54:44.169
Just owe some money, that\'s all.

01:54:44.263 --> 01:54:47.327
I owe some money
and I got this thing at the [?].

01:54:47.520 --> 01:54:50.249
It\'s enough to bother me

01:54:51.185 --> 01:54:54.687
where I feel
I have to get it straightened out

01:54:55.487 --> 01:54:56.672
and I just have to.

01:54:56.880 --> 01:54:58.414
How much money do you owe?

01:55:00.781 --> 01:55:02.832
It\'s about 1,500.

01:55:04.174 --> 01:55:06.691
Look, none of us have any money.

01:55:06.988 --> 01:55:12.927
We work and we try to do what we can
and we worry about it together.

01:55:13.011 --> 01:55:15.120
We don\'t try to do it individually.

01:55:15.298 --> 01:55:17.120
If you just come and live with us,

01:55:18.061 --> 01:55:20.541
well, I don\'t know how we\'ll find the answer

01:55:20.635 --> 01:55:22.301
but it will be all of our problems

01:55:22.395 --> 01:55:24.301
and then we\'ll all work on it together.

01:55:24.465 --> 01:55:28.908
Why should I bring
four other people down with me?

01:55:29.792 --> 01:55:31.797
If I\'m going to go down, I should go down

01:55:31.882 --> 01:55:34.738
because of myself and I should go down alone.

01:55:35.440 --> 01:55:39.195
If I\'ve got a problem, I should deal with it.

01:55:40.244 --> 01:55:41.618
I don\'t know, man.

01:55:41.722 --> 01:55:46.277
You keep saying
that you don\'t want to live here

01:55:46.357 --> 01:55:54.616
and I feel like it\'s hard
when you\'ve been living on your own

01:55:54.738 --> 01:55:57.110
to think about living with a bunch of people.

01:55:58.018 --> 01:56:00.310
I don\'t want to push, but I don\'t know,

01:56:00.400 --> 01:56:03.557
somehow it\'s the back and forth,
all kind of in and out.

01:56:03.656 --> 01:56:05.557
I don\'t know how to deal with it.

01:56:05.722 --> 01:56:08.578
Well, it bothers me too,
that I got that angry.

01:56:09.185 --> 01:56:10.635
I don\'t really feel right.

01:56:10.729 --> 01:56:13.091
I wouldn\'t feel right living with anybody

01:56:13.181 --> 01:56:17.515
because I know that I\'m capable
of getting that angry

01:56:18.917 --> 01:56:20.809
and just wouldn\'t feel right.

01:56:26.122 --> 01:56:29.835
I feel like I\'ve been [?]

01:56:43.190 --> 01:56:45.614
Lots of times you should pick up people

01:56:45.717 --> 01:56:48.291
and it turns out to be nothing special.

01:56:49.190 --> 01:56:51.242
Maybe it\'s like I just don\'t want it to happen,

01:56:51.322 --> 01:56:53.717
but then you can end up
living with everybody.

01:56:53.788 --> 01:56:56.258
There\'s people all over the bloody country

01:56:56.512 --> 01:56:58.216
that I really care about.

01:56:59.534 --> 01:57:01.971
[?].

01:57:03.040 --> 01:57:08.042
[?].

01:57:08.508 --> 01:57:09.872
Let\'s not say it anymore.

01:57:09.957 --> 01:57:11.110
That\'s it, okay.

01:57:11.237 --> 01:57:13.152
We won\'t say goodbye later at all.

01:57:13.280 --> 01:57:14.494
We won\'t talk about it.

01:57:14.597 --> 01:57:16.192
I\'ll just get out and split.

01:57:29.204 --> 01:57:32.531
The second part is called
the Hairy Man from the East.

01:57:34.621 --> 01:57:37.232
We did not think of the great open plains,

01:57:37.750 --> 01:57:39.298
the beautiful rolling hills,

01:57:39.416 --> 01:57:43.567
and the winding streams
with tangled growth as wild.

01:57:44.414 --> 01:57:46.880
Only to the white man
was nature wilderness

01:57:46.969 --> 01:57:49.096
and only to him was the land infested

01:57:49.200 --> 01:57:51.962
with wild animals and savage people.

01:57:53.529 --> 01:57:55.087
To us, it was tamed.

01:57:56.051 --> 01:57:57.364
Earth was bountiful.

01:57:57.458 --> 01:58:00.287
We were surrounded by the blessings
of the great mystery.

01:58:01.454 --> 01:58:04.192
Not until the Hairy Man
from the East came

01:58:04.658 --> 01:58:07.840
and with brutal frenzy
heaped injustices upon us

01:58:08.028 --> 01:58:11.863
and the families we loved was it wild for us.

01:58:13.204 --> 01:58:17.105
When the very animals of the forest
began fleeing from his approach,

01:58:17.487 --> 01:58:21.369
then it was that for us, the Wild West began.

01:58:24.112 --> 01:58:28.828
That was by chief Luther Standing Bear
of the Oglala [?]

01:58:29.548 --> 01:58:33.181
They were the people who wounded me.

01:58:34.960 --> 01:58:37.444
There\'s a picture that goes with this

01:58:37.534 --> 01:58:41.764
is this really beautiful picture
of a vast plane

01:58:41.849 --> 01:58:48.583
like I\'ve never seen with a cluster of TPs.

01:58:48.658 --> 01:58:54.814
It looks almost like a field of mushrooms,
its really [?].

01:58:54.936 --> 01:58:56.583
It\'s not like a village?

01:58:56.931 --> 01:58:58.625
No, it says encampment.

01:58:58.720 --> 01:59:02.032
It\'s something like coming together
of the tribes

01:59:02.145 --> 01:59:04.032
for a ceremony or something.

01:59:07.849 --> 01:59:09.068
That must be a--

01:59:09.487 --> 01:59:10.889
Who\'s playing a movie?

01:59:10.992 --> 01:59:12.489
It must be Bobby, I guess.

01:59:14.263 --> 01:59:18.748
He plays on into the night,
[?] white.

01:59:19.981 --> 01:59:24.305
Well, there\'s really the need to [?]

01:59:26.037 --> 01:59:29.680
That\'s the last one for tonight, I\'m gone.

01:59:29.811 --> 01:59:31.778
[?] story of the day.

01:59:32.032 --> 01:59:36.969
[music]

01:59:59.331 --> 02:00:01.204
Sal.
Hey, John, we\'re here.

02:00:01.284 --> 02:00:02.404
Good to see you.

02:00:02.490 --> 02:00:04.395
How are you doing, John?
Hello, Jimmy.

02:00:04.607 --> 02:00:05.863
All the kids are here too.

02:00:05.934 --> 02:00:06.936
Who?

02:00:07.035 --> 02:00:10.456
Well, there\'s Evan and Michael
and Ruth and Richie and Dylan.

02:00:10.578 --> 02:00:12.738
Great.

02:00:16.376 --> 02:00:19.430
They have flippers,

02:00:20.480 --> 02:00:22.277
and they have mouth,

02:00:22.625 --> 02:00:26.578
and they have a dog-like head

02:00:27.105 --> 02:00:29.901
and they have a nose with whiskers on

02:00:30.014 --> 02:00:33.242
and they have nice little eyes,
and they have a nose.

02:00:33.901 --> 02:00:35.369
Are they big?
Yes.

02:00:35.722 --> 02:00:37.120
They\'re as big as me.

02:00:39.308 --> 02:00:40.338
Whoa.

02:00:40.418 --> 02:00:42.338
Hey, how are you doing?
Good. How are you?

02:00:42.400 --> 02:00:43.510
Okay. Good to see.

02:00:43.609 --> 02:00:45.741
[?], check out the seals.

02:00:45.741 --> 02:00:46.804
Look at all the seals.

02:00:46.889 --> 02:00:48.729
Obi, you\'ll like to see these seals.

02:00:53.510 --> 02:00:54.950
Let me hold him.

02:00:55.232 --> 02:00:58.244
I didn\'t get a chance to hold him.

02:01:02.032 --> 02:01:04.861
I put my fingers in his front claws
and he didn\'t bite me.

02:01:05.680 --> 02:01:07.195
Oh, it\'s not so big, is it?

02:01:07.298 --> 02:01:08.489
No.

02:01:08.654 --> 02:01:10.621
It\'s only about as big as my fist.

02:01:10.870 --> 02:01:13.364
Oh, I can feel his leg, is that his legs? Yes.

02:01:15.421 --> 02:01:17.242
We should put it back, I guess.

02:01:17.341 --> 02:01:19.501
They get handled an awful lot here.

02:01:19.670 --> 02:01:21.811
Dylan, give him some water, a minute,

02:01:21.811 --> 02:01:23.670
just for a minute just give them a little [?].

02:01:23.774 --> 02:01:25.421
Okay, there\'s plastic right here.

02:01:32.607 --> 02:01:36.117
It\'s really scratchy, isn\'t it?
Yes.

02:01:37.863 --> 02:01:39.195
Is it stiff?

02:01:39.924 --> 02:01:41.562
We just picked him up.

02:01:41.887 --> 02:01:45.303
Oh, I can feel one of the hands
are dripping over the edge of my finger.

02:01:46.894 --> 02:01:49.134
He gets stuck all over.

02:01:49.585 --> 02:01:52.447
He\'s got a little orange stomach
right over here,

02:01:52.564 --> 02:01:55.698
I can feel it, right there, a little indentation.

02:01:56.244 --> 02:01:57.571
All right.

02:01:58.734 --> 02:02:01.628
Let\'s see, after a while
if his legs will come up.

02:02:07.477 --> 02:02:09.049
My body is feeling that.

02:02:10.630 --> 02:02:12.461
I\'m stretching for the birth.

02:02:13.910 --> 02:02:16.898
Everybody around me
is really aiming for it.

02:02:17.482 --> 02:02:21.270
Larry\'s much closer,
our rhythm\'s almost the same.

02:03:50.334 --> 02:03:52.169
Look at that physical.

02:03:52.268 --> 02:03:53.694
Physical action.

02:03:53.783 --> 02:03:54.931
A tidal wave.

02:03:56.451 --> 02:03:57.957
What\'s a tidal wave?

02:03:58.301 --> 02:04:02.837
It\'s big wave that comes in,
knocks the city down and stuff,

02:04:03.628 --> 02:04:06.950
and it makes almost a flood,
worser than the flood.

02:04:07.110 --> 02:04:09.534
Watch this is, this is going to be [?]

02:04:09.637 --> 02:04:11.708
It could knock the aquarium down.

02:04:11.910 --> 02:04:15.350
Watch this.

02:04:15.496 --> 02:04:19.727
When it comes when it starts
to come rumbling down.

02:04:22.800 --> 02:04:29.025
Let\'s race, and whoever gets
the most tidal waves, the win, okay?

02:04:29.355 --> 02:04:30.818
No, I don\'t want to do that.

02:04:30.903 --> 02:04:32.287
I just want to see.

02:04:32.578 --> 02:04:34.432
Hurry up.
No.

02:04:35.637 --> 02:04:41.044
I\'ll give you two, after my third
or fourth tidal wave, okay?

02:04:41.138 --> 02:04:42.611
How about your third?

02:04:43.072 --> 02:04:44.376
Water.

02:04:44.691 --> 02:04:45.882
I really don\'t know

02:04:45.962 --> 02:04:50.409
if this baby\'s ever going to taste
pure stream water.

02:04:50.818 --> 02:04:56.188
You see green leaves
and the sky, a blue sky.

02:04:56.691 --> 02:04:59.350
I look out every day and I see this yellow.

02:04:59.454 --> 02:05:01.152
[?].

02:05:04.056 --> 02:05:07.120
Sometimes I can\'t remember
what a blue sky looks like myself.

02:05:31.430 --> 02:05:34.385
I\'ve been trying to figure it out
for about six years

02:05:34.517 --> 02:05:37.844
since I got out of college,
I can\'t do it.

02:05:38.310 --> 02:05:41.336
What have do been doing,
what do you do, you need to figure it out.

02:05:41.430 --> 02:05:45.407
I was writing a book
and then all the strikes came along

02:05:45.600 --> 02:05:49.129
and then I took acid.

02:05:49.237 --> 02:05:50.315
[laughter]

02:05:50.404 --> 02:05:51.943
I did that too, I forgot.

02:05:52.023 --> 02:05:53.524
[laughter]

02:06:11.730 --> 02:06:13.378
Mrs. Grayson.
Yes.

02:06:13.604 --> 02:06:14.748
My name is Jan Phillips.

02:06:14.847 --> 02:06:17.162
I was sent by a lawyer
that you called, Mr. Stein?

02:06:17.232 --> 02:06:18.701
Oh, yes.
Can I sit down?

02:06:18.785 --> 02:06:19.722
Please.

02:06:21.661 --> 02:06:24.329
Mr. Stein can\'t come right now

02:06:24.964 --> 02:06:26.762
so he sent me to ask you some questions

02:06:26.842 --> 02:06:28.870
that will be helpful later
for your arraignment.

02:06:28.936 --> 02:06:30.136
What is this arraignment?

02:06:30.216 --> 02:06:31.712
Well, that\'s a court procedure

02:06:31.792 --> 02:06:34.371
where they tell you
what you\'re charged with.

02:06:34.522 --> 02:06:37.425
You don\'t have to worry about that.
You don\'t have to say anything.

02:06:37.515 --> 02:06:39.924
Mr. Stein will just plead not guilty for you.

02:06:40.056 --> 02:06:42.183
Well, I don\'t think I\'m guilty.

02:06:43.152 --> 02:06:47.571
We went to this party last night
and he drank a lot as usual.

02:06:48.583 --> 02:06:50.884
I didn\'t like the way
he was acting at the party,

02:06:50.974 --> 02:06:53.548
I may as well not have been there
and then when we got home,

02:06:53.637 --> 02:06:56.009
I just wanted to be left alone,
and he wouldn\'t leave me alone

02:06:56.084 --> 02:06:59.030
so I tried to tell him
what I was upset about it

02:06:59.120 --> 02:07:00.870
and he began telling me, I\'m crazy.

02:07:01.491 --> 02:07:04.847
He threw down on the bed,
and I had to get them off me,

02:07:04.936 --> 02:07:06.334
and so I reached for the lamp,

02:07:06.423 --> 02:07:08.150
and I just began hitting him
over the head.

02:07:08.240 --> 02:07:09.741
I just had to get them off.

02:07:10.080 --> 02:07:11.185
Did he hit you?

02:07:11.275 --> 02:07:13.764
He smacked my head around a little bit.

02:07:13.872 --> 02:07:17.082
Pulled my hair,
he was just trying to keep me there

02:07:17.167 --> 02:07:20.127
and I just began hitting him
with the lamp.

02:07:20.842 --> 02:07:22.400
I know this is real hard for you

02:07:22.508 --> 02:07:25.115
and we don\'t have to go into it anymore.

02:07:25.228 --> 02:07:27.336
You can talk to Mr. Stein about it later.

02:07:27.632 --> 02:07:29.901
What\'s really important is getting you out

02:07:30.075 --> 02:07:32.122
so that you can go see Mr. Stein
in his office

02:07:32.216 --> 02:07:33.458
and talk to him there.

02:07:33.585 --> 02:07:35.280
I should get out of here.

02:07:35.468 --> 02:07:38.150
Right, that\'s, that\'s the first thing
that we want to do.

02:07:38.240 --> 02:07:40.663
In order to do that,
we have to know some things.

02:07:40.743 --> 02:07:41.680
Yes.

02:07:41.764 --> 02:07:44.014
Your age, how old are you?

02:07:44.094 --> 02:07:45.388
I\'m 26.

02:07:45.482 --> 02:07:47.590
Do you work?

02:07:47.731 --> 02:07:49.458
Yes, I should be working now.

02:07:49.576 --> 02:07:51.623
They only let me make one phone call,

02:07:51.703 --> 02:07:56.009
so I called Mr. Stein, but I teach
and I have to notify the school.

02:07:56.108 --> 02:07:57.237
Where do you teach?

02:07:57.350 --> 02:07:59.858
I teach at Lincoln Elementary School.

02:07:59.995 --> 02:08:01.590
I teach third grade.

02:08:01.835 --> 02:08:03.962
What\'s really important is getting you out.

02:08:04.028 --> 02:08:06.837
How long have you been working there?
About three years.

02:08:09.703 --> 02:08:11.604
There\'s a lot of fear in me.

02:08:14.847 --> 02:08:18.127
I have a lot of carelessness
and sloppiness

02:08:19.355 --> 02:08:20.809
about what I stand for.

02:08:20.927 --> 02:08:23.294
All the things tie together,

02:08:23.392 --> 02:08:26.192
they come as one
instead of being splintered.

02:08:26.282 --> 02:08:28.988
Well, in a way,
it\'s more complicated than that,

02:08:29.072 --> 02:08:32.804
because this film
is really not feeding me so well.

02:08:33.496 --> 02:08:38.781
Other films that fed me
and enabled me to do this film,

02:08:40.037 --> 02:08:46.418
but luckily,
I don\'t have to take care of you--

02:08:46.517 --> 02:08:50.023
Kids, but luckily, I don\'t have
to put you through school anymore

02:08:50.127 --> 02:08:53.044
or see if you can get
a decent meal and a winter coat.

02:08:53.821 --> 02:08:55.604
It\'s quite different.

02:08:57.105 --> 02:08:59.651
This is the ring that I got in Vietnam,

02:08:59.872 --> 02:09:05.289
it\'s made out of a very small piece
of American coin.

02:09:05.722 --> 02:09:07.675
It has a number on it.

02:09:08.381 --> 02:09:11.011
It\'s an F-105.

02:09:12.720 --> 02:09:14.630
I think it\'s an F-105.

02:09:17.374 --> 02:09:19.576
[?] doesn\'t die.

02:09:19.924 --> 02:09:21.934
It\'s pretty sick though, huh?

02:09:22.075 --> 02:09:25.025
See these little squirmy fishes?

02:09:25.120 --> 02:09:27.341
Oh, he\'s going to die.
That fish is turning in circles.

02:09:28.545 --> 02:09:30.169
Oh, his eye\'s gone.

02:09:30.809 --> 02:09:31.858
Who?

02:09:31.950 --> 02:09:33.797
His. That\'s floating way up top.

02:09:33.891 --> 02:09:35.124
Oh, his eye\'s gone.

02:09:35.232 --> 02:09:37.124
The flounders getting right on him.

02:09:37.807 --> 02:09:39.844
That guy, he\'s getting blown away.

02:09:39.967 --> 02:09:41.176
I know.

02:09:41.275 --> 02:09:43.077
How do you know all this about fish?

02:09:43.152 --> 02:09:45.689
I studied it for 10 years,
I should know a little bit.

02:09:45.769 --> 02:09:47.063
Yes, I guess.

02:09:47.204 --> 02:09:49.830
I thought I might as well
try to make a living

02:09:49.915 --> 02:09:51.148
doing what I wanted to do,

02:09:51.247 --> 02:09:53.491
so I went to graduate school
and got a PhD

02:09:53.778 --> 02:09:57.040
and then I got this job
teaching at a university,

02:09:57.505 --> 02:10:01.632
and I taught for one year
and it just wasn\'t what I expected,

02:10:01.797 --> 02:10:04.451
I just kept getting farther and farther away.

02:10:04.550 --> 02:10:08.277
Well, if I were them,
I would want to get out very badly

02:10:09.044 --> 02:10:11.308
but then, who knows how fishes think,

02:10:11.411 --> 02:10:15.642
but if the tank it\'s only like, 8-feet long,

02:10:15.778 --> 02:10:18.390
and right now they\'re panicked.

02:10:18.588 --> 02:10:21.821
I got more turned on
to a lot of political stuff

02:10:21.905 --> 02:10:23.778
that was going on in the world

02:10:23.858 --> 02:10:26.663
and what I was doing
seemed really far away from that.

02:10:26.960 --> 02:10:28.767
What did you do?

02:10:29.797 --> 02:10:31.698
I went to the chairman in my department,

02:10:31.788 --> 02:10:34.475
and I told him that the research
that I was working on

02:10:34.569 --> 02:10:38.531
just wasn\'t close enough
to really dealing with real problems.

02:10:38.616 --> 02:10:39.703
What were you doing?

02:10:39.844 --> 02:10:42.056
Well, I was working on this little fish

02:10:42.160 --> 02:10:44.658
and trying to find out
how their behavior changed

02:10:44.767 --> 02:10:46.447
when the temperature changed.

02:10:46.630 --> 02:10:49.595
The idea was that they were going
to build a nuclear reactor

02:10:49.665 --> 02:10:51.604
in the town where the university was,

02:10:51.694 --> 02:10:54.169
so I went to the chairman
of my department and I said,

02:10:54.249 --> 02:10:57.449
I want to make a movie about
how the people in the town,

02:10:57.609 --> 02:11:00.814
the poor people were worse off

02:11:00.898 --> 02:11:03.331
because of the changes
in the environment

02:11:03.425 --> 02:11:06.240
like the pollution and everything
than the rich people.

02:11:07.614 --> 02:11:11.590
He said that there was no way
that I could do that

02:11:11.680 --> 02:11:14.094
and still be in the zoology department.

02:11:14.385 --> 02:11:16.851
So I got fired.

02:11:17.910 --> 02:11:22.941
Really, it\'s like, fruit jello,
it\'s like that much fish.

02:11:23.162 --> 02:11:26.757
Jim, I want to move
to the children\'s department.

02:11:26.880 --> 02:11:28.160
We will learn a little bit.

02:11:28.258 --> 02:11:32.122
We don\'t like watching this fish,
it\'s boring.

02:16:11.505 --> 02:16:13.778
I was hitchhiking from [?].

02:16:16.047 --> 02:16:19.190
A car came by swerved
and actually tried to kill me.

02:16:19.491 --> 02:16:23.924
After that, every car,
every set of headlights that came at me

02:16:24.512 --> 02:16:26.771
I thought they were going to try
to run me over.

02:16:26.847 --> 02:16:28.404
I knew it was because I was a GI.

02:16:28.517 --> 02:16:30.691
I couldn\'t relate to the people in the service

02:16:30.800 --> 02:16:32.517
or the people out of the service.

02:16:33.680 --> 02:16:36.343
Another thing
that\'s in your dreams is fire.

02:16:38.517 --> 02:16:41.952
It\'s in the South of Saigon;

02:16:43.680 --> 02:16:45.289
we got hit,

02:16:46.927 --> 02:16:48.484
we called in the strike,

02:16:52.032 --> 02:16:54.851
next thing two men came
running out of the bushes.

02:16:56.155 --> 02:16:59.835
[?] right to the bone.

02:17:03.468 --> 02:17:05.303
Never saw a fire like that.

02:17:08.640 --> 02:17:13.694
Terry, I\'m going to put a job; steal some stuff.

02:17:14.145 --> 02:17:15.421
What kind of stuff?

02:17:15.623 --> 02:17:17.421
I was at a party the other night,

02:17:20.244 --> 02:17:23.854
I shouldn\'t have really been there
but this girl took me up there.

02:17:25.360 --> 02:17:27.143
It was very rich people.

02:17:29.035 --> 02:17:33.529
Just room after room,
empty like a hotel or something.

02:17:34.352 --> 02:17:38.240
I went to the bedroom, lots of jewels.

02:17:40.809 --> 02:17:43.054
If we set it up right, we could do it.

02:17:46.131 --> 02:17:47.915
I don\'t know.

02:17:49.397 --> 02:17:50.978
It\'s safe.

02:17:51.190 --> 02:17:52.710
It\'s okay.

02:17:52.927 --> 02:17:55.435
Very little risk involved.

02:18:07.284 --> 02:18:08.512
No way.

02:18:39.548 --> 02:18:43.223
He joined the cavalry like the Vietnamese,

02:18:43.331 --> 02:18:45.665
they joined the army to get guns.

02:18:52.828 --> 02:18:55.308
Men like that have made America great.

02:18:57.129 --> 02:18:58.880
What a man.

02:18:59.072 --> 02:19:01.120
It\'s wonderful.

02:19:02.263 --> 02:19:05.280
[?] Geronimo, [?].

02:19:10.456 --> 02:19:12.404
Frontiers of the nation.

02:19:12.715 --> 02:19:14.710
[?] around the world.

02:19:15.938 --> 02:19:17.910
Secured the frontiers for us.

02:19:18.169 --> 02:19:20.451
[?].

02:19:20.611 --> 02:19:23.661
It\'s really bad news, man.

02:19:23.750 --> 02:19:25.011
Well, it\'s awful.

02:19:25.110 --> 02:19:26.574
I want to play after that movie.

02:19:26.649 --> 02:19:28.207
Yes, it could really be a bummer.

02:19:28.334 --> 02:19:30.447
Don\'t worry about it,
don\'t let it freak you out.

02:19:30.550 --> 02:19:32.310
See you\'re seeing now just get up there,

02:19:32.390 --> 02:19:34.338
take control and say what you got to say.

02:19:34.630 --> 02:19:36.917
[?] put something like that up there.

02:19:37.082 --> 02:19:40.127
I know, it\'s better than [?] maybe.

02:19:43.981 --> 02:19:46.136
Hey, it\'s okay. Come on.

02:20:08.997 --> 02:20:10.705
How are you doing?

02:20:11.397 --> 02:20:13.275
It\'s a pretty heavy-duty movie.

02:20:16.875 --> 02:20:20.367
That movie reminded me a little bit
about this town in New Mexico,

02:20:20.800 --> 02:20:24.409
[?] where is everything
is like Kit Carson Hotel,

02:20:24.517 --> 02:20:26.983
Kit Carson motel, and lounge

02:20:27.214 --> 02:20:29.242
and the Indians really hate that fucker.

02:20:32.178 --> 02:20:33.703
I think I\'m getting ready.

02:20:43.030 --> 02:20:44.950
It was as easy as you said.

02:20:45.171 --> 02:20:46.418
Yes, it looks okay.

02:20:48.644 --> 02:20:53.736
I\'ll take my all my salary,
my 6.50 a day and chip it in,

02:20:53.840 --> 02:20:55.778
and put up a plaque on the wall,

02:20:55.887 --> 02:20:58.075
Kit Carson memorial plaque for this place.

02:21:00.287 --> 02:21:01.938
Play some music now.

02:21:07.237 --> 02:21:13.327
[music]

02:21:45.863 --> 02:21:47.044
One second.

02:21:51.618 --> 02:21:53.717
Genocides a hard act to follow

02:21:54.508 --> 02:21:56.395
but I\'ll try and get it together up here.

02:21:57.110 --> 02:22:01.016
That movie reminds me
a couple of days ago

02:22:01.091 --> 02:22:08.141
we did this recording scene,
this entertainer bit,

02:22:08.235 --> 02:22:09.764
that movie\'s entertainment

02:22:09.938 --> 02:22:12.277
and everyone sits back and watches it

02:22:12.447 --> 02:22:18.334
and it\'s removed from it
but recorded on eagle labels.

02:22:22.621 --> 02:22:24.150
I\'ll try and get back into it now.

02:22:24.230 --> 02:22:25.680
I\'ll entertain for you

02:22:25.774 --> 02:22:27.868
and if you want to come up
and play with me

02:22:27.948 --> 02:22:30.536
it\'s my first and last gig in this place.

02:22:33.308 --> 02:22:34.630
Let\'s just get out of here [?].

02:22:34.715 --> 02:22:37.223
That\'s easy [?]

02:22:38.334 --> 02:22:40.611
We [?] right now [?] we got to [?]

02:22:40.715 --> 02:22:42.230
Let\'s just get out of here.

02:22:42.912 --> 02:22:44.112
Hold it right there.

02:22:59.030 --> 02:23:05.105
[music]

02:23:34.456 --> 02:23:37.129
[applause]

02:23:44.508 --> 02:23:45.872
Are you all awake?

02:23:46.437 --> 02:23:47.694
What\'s happening?

02:23:47.783 --> 02:23:49.138
I need to talk to you.

02:23:49.665 --> 02:23:50.903
Who is it?

02:23:51.025 --> 02:23:52.301
It\'s Jimmy.

02:23:57.967 --> 02:23:59.101
Terry is dead.

02:23:59.232 --> 02:24:00.649
What?

02:24:03.807 --> 02:24:05.863
Jammie called just a few minutes ago.

02:24:07.392 --> 02:24:08.800
He heard it at work.

02:24:09.778 --> 02:24:11.232
It\'s just incredible.

02:24:11.538 --> 02:24:12.795
How?

02:24:13.774 --> 02:24:18.640
I guess they tried to burglarise a mansion,

02:24:19.345 --> 02:24:21.416
he and another guy, and the cops came.

02:24:21.524 --> 02:24:23.487
The other guy got away and he got killed.

02:24:23.727 --> 02:24:26.056
This was the guy
that you were going to live with,

02:24:26.150 --> 02:24:28.018
the vet who just come back from [?]?

02:24:28.127 --> 02:24:30.475
Was he into this kind of stuff?

02:24:30.602 --> 02:24:31.609
I don\'t think so.

02:24:31.722 --> 02:24:36.682
He talked about a debt he had
and trouble he had been in

02:24:38.974 --> 02:24:41.331
but it\'s a very strange discussion.

02:24:41.910 --> 02:24:45.529
We told him
that we would try and give him

02:24:45.600 --> 02:24:48.800
all the support we could but it was weird.

02:24:49.025 --> 02:24:51.364
I knew that he wasn\'t hearing us.

02:24:54.503 --> 02:24:59.411
Well, I wonder how much you in touch

02:24:59.934 --> 02:25:03.632
with what he was up against,
what kind of [?]?

02:25:03.825 --> 02:25:06.221
Not at all.

02:25:06.927 --> 02:25:11.261
I felt really stupid all day questioning him,

02:25:11.680 --> 02:25:13.256
giving him the third degree.

02:25:13.985 --> 02:25:16.348
It was just a real strange conversation.

02:25:17.943 --> 02:25:20.456
I\'ve been
in that kind of conversation before

02:25:21.750 --> 02:25:28.122
and I don\'t know, it\'s a combination
of the differences in people\'s classes

02:25:28.404 --> 02:25:32.658
just felt trapped inside of that
and experiences.

02:25:33.840 --> 02:25:35.915
He just was so isolated.

02:25:36.112 --> 02:25:38.470
We\'ve seen isolated.

02:25:38.569 --> 02:25:43.049
I thought we always live
with the same kind of people.

02:25:43.849 --> 02:25:46.757
You were pretty close to him.

02:25:46.842 --> 02:25:49.124
I mean, you were thinking
about living with him,

02:25:49.237 --> 02:25:50.635
wanting to live with him.

02:25:52.056 --> 02:25:54.065
How do you feel?

02:25:54.696 --> 02:25:58.329
I just wonder whether
I would feel responsible in some level.

02:26:01.872 --> 02:26:05.275
Not guilty or anything like that

02:26:07.284 --> 02:26:09.294
but some kind of responsibility.

02:26:09.835 --> 02:26:15.411
Maybe just frustrated
at how difficult it was

02:26:15.501 --> 02:26:17.261
to make a connection,

02:26:25.454 --> 02:26:26.432
I don\'t know.

02:26:33.736 --> 02:26:35.068
It just seems like

02:26:43.002 --> 02:26:46.131
we have to know ourselves better
in that situation

02:26:46.522 --> 02:26:48.668
and be clear about who we are

02:26:50.828 --> 02:26:53.887
and I just don\'t think
we knew who he was either.

02:26:57.632 --> 02:26:59.152
I really liked Terry.

02:27:00.828 --> 02:27:02.550
I really wanted to live with him.

02:28:32.729 --> 02:28:35.355
Yes, but we\'re going to need something
pretty quick

02:28:35.458 --> 02:28:37.232
because we\'re running short of money.

02:28:37.331 --> 02:28:38.531
We\'ll have to start looking.

02:28:38.625 --> 02:28:40.922
Did you get the transcripts?
Yes, got it.

02:28:41.148 --> 02:28:43.491
It must have been weird
going back there

02:28:43.581 --> 02:28:45.030
after all these years.

02:28:45.298 --> 02:28:47.195
How long has it been now, 10 years?

02:28:47.327 --> 02:28:48.400
About 10 years.

02:28:48.522 --> 02:28:50.089
Is there any way I can wait for it

02:28:50.183 --> 02:28:51.764
or pick it up or something like that?

02:28:51.849 --> 02:28:53.647
You don\'t want to have it
mailed somewhere?

02:28:53.741 --> 02:28:55.407
I don\'t have an address to mail it to.

02:28:55.491 --> 02:28:57.882
Just on line one just put self-pickup.

02:28:57.967 --> 02:28:59.021
Thank you.

02:28:59.120 --> 02:29:01.585
It was really quiet there and empty.

02:29:01.670 --> 02:29:03.731
Nothing happened, it was really strange.

02:29:03.825 --> 02:29:07.223
Are you going to start doing some
of that computer stuff again now?

02:29:07.308 --> 02:29:09.105
I don\'t know, I hope not

02:29:09.303 --> 02:29:12.762
but if I have to it really depends
on what we can find

02:29:12.847 --> 02:29:15.731
when we get settled
and if I can find something

02:29:15.835 --> 02:29:18.865
that makes sense
with the computer stuff, I hope.

02:29:19.520 --> 02:29:23.138
You know I really wish
you were staying in town longer [?].

02:29:23.327 --> 02:29:24.785
It would be really good.

02:29:24.884 --> 02:29:27.261
Yes, and we could spend some time together

02:29:27.350 --> 02:29:28.597
hanging out and talking.

02:29:28.701 --> 02:29:30.032
I really miss you.

02:29:33.990 --> 02:29:36.912
There just aren\'t as many people around
that are friends

02:29:37.007 --> 02:29:41.077
that are in the same place
as me anymore doing the things I do.

02:29:42.376 --> 02:29:45.585
You should certainly come out
and spend some time

02:29:46.301 --> 02:29:48.640
and maybe end up staying out there
or something.

02:29:48.743 --> 02:29:51.138
No, that sounds really tempting.

02:29:51.689 --> 02:29:55.887
I guess I\'m ready now more
to get back again

02:29:55.971 --> 02:29:57.905
into living with a group of people.

02:29:58.004 --> 02:30:00.522
It would really be nice
if we could work some out

02:30:00.597 --> 02:30:01.858
because maybe a--

02:30:01.957 --> 02:30:04.800
There\'s only one problem, of course,
and that\'s the plant.

02:30:04.898 --> 02:30:07.567
I spent these all years
building this thing up

02:30:07.647 --> 02:30:09.571
and trying to get through to people.

02:30:09.656 --> 02:30:11.040
I\'ve been there so long

02:30:11.138 --> 02:30:13.835
and it seems like things
are just beginning to happen.

02:30:13.938 --> 02:30:15.237
I don\'t want to leave

02:30:15.331 --> 02:30:18.607
and have people feel like
I have betrayed them.

02:30:22.969 --> 02:30:28.602
I get the feeling a bit uptight
because I feel the pressure.

02:30:29.623 --> 02:30:33.774
I also feel that I want to be doing
something which feels good to me,

02:30:36.084 --> 02:30:37.840
all those things we\'ve talked about;

02:30:37.948 --> 02:30:39.454
about me working outside,

02:30:39.534 --> 02:30:43.134
I\'m doing what makes me feel good
and makes my body feel good.

02:30:44.432 --> 02:30:46.381
I don\'t know how that\'s going to work out.

02:30:52.555 --> 02:30:54.795
We can find something
that\'s reasonable

02:30:55.355 --> 02:30:57.689
that you would want to do
, or be able to do,

02:30:57.769 --> 02:30:59.487
then I can take something.

02:30:59.670 --> 02:31:02.880
What it might mean
is me getting a job as a waitress,

02:31:03.463 --> 02:31:09.463
and as much as I don\'t like it,
I\'m also nothing to live on us,

02:31:09.538 --> 02:31:11.143
eating rice and beans all winter.

02:31:12.484 --> 02:31:17.011
I\'m [?] into getting a job right away.

02:31:17.138 --> 02:31:20.560
I really feel that
I should be doing it around that,

02:31:21.665 --> 02:31:23.769
so we\'ll try and work it all out.

02:31:41.162 --> 02:31:44.258
No, you should just put
this big cushion between your legs.

02:31:44.616 --> 02:31:45.741
It will really help.

02:31:45.811 --> 02:31:47.995
[?]

02:31:50.781 --> 02:31:52.221
It\'s 44.40.

02:31:52.310 --> 02:31:54.828
It\'s getting lighter all the time.

02:31:57.585 --> 02:31:59.369
What\'s tonight? Today is Thursday?

02:31:59.435 --> 02:32:00.861
No, today is Friday.

02:32:01.044 --> 02:32:02.287
It\'s Friday.

02:32:02.564 --> 02:32:04.649
Well, that\'s good. You really like it.

02:32:05.600 --> 02:32:07.190
It\'s Friday, isn\'t it?

02:32:07.454 --> 02:32:08.964
Well--

02:32:09.807 --> 02:32:11.924
I think this is going to happen.

02:32:12.720 --> 02:32:15.760
I\'m not so scared of this transition
because it did feel like in control.

02:32:15.858 --> 02:32:18.762
Because when I feel I\'m under stress,
I\'d be in control.

02:32:19.110 --> 02:32:20.800
I thought that a little late, but--

02:32:20.908 --> 02:32:22.357
We\'ve been expecting though,

02:32:22.442 --> 02:32:25.924
they come closer like they\'ve been
every five or seven minutes

02:32:26.324 --> 02:32:29.021
and we catch one
in four minutes or three minutes,

02:32:29.105 --> 02:32:30.875
it will probably be [?].

02:32:31.195 --> 02:32:33.148
About 35 seconds now.

02:32:36.084 --> 02:32:37.665
How frequent are they?

02:32:37.849 --> 02:32:39.256
They are very irregular.

02:32:39.430 --> 02:32:41.016
[?].
Yes.

02:32:41.200 --> 02:32:43.284
What we\'re going to do of course

02:32:43.378 --> 02:32:46.512
is we stimulate a little bit and see
if we\'re going to get progress.

02:32:46.592 --> 02:32:50.658
It\'s not so much
whether I feel like they\'re really been,

02:32:50.715 --> 02:32:52.461
but you haven\'t been making progress.

02:32:52.545 --> 02:32:55.374
We\'re going to stimulate to see
if you\'re going to get progress,

02:32:55.449 --> 02:32:58.592
we\'re going to give you
two hours of stimulation

02:32:58.795 --> 02:33:03.618
with the labor hormone and see
what kind of progress you do make.

02:33:03.745 --> 02:33:07.101
If the baby head hasn\'t descended
into the birth canal

02:33:07.185 --> 02:33:09.830
as far as we would expect it
at this point of labor

02:33:09.920 --> 02:33:12.927
which is probably setting up a limit

02:33:13.007 --> 02:33:14.790
at noon time or something like that

02:33:14.955 --> 02:33:17.482
and tell you if you don\'t do it by then,

02:33:17.844 --> 02:33:23.030
we probably want to change
or [?] for the time being.

02:33:24.865 --> 02:33:26.061
See you later.

02:33:31.901 --> 02:33:33.792
Soup, soup, soup, soup.

02:33:34.385 --> 02:33:35.722
Excuse me, where is the soup?

02:33:35.872 --> 02:33:37.077
That\'s crazy.

02:33:37.185 --> 02:33:41.247
I\'m not paying 99 cents for two.

02:33:43.200 --> 02:33:45.378
Well, it seems like that\'s the way it is.

02:33:45.449 --> 02:33:47.247
I don\'t want to do that.

02:33:47.868 --> 02:33:52.080
99 for health.

02:34:00.512 --> 02:34:02.178
40.50, 75.

02:34:02.277 --> 02:34:05.035
13, 14, 15, 5.

02:34:15.120 --> 02:34:16.974
Good to see you.

02:34:42.230 --> 02:34:44.625
These poor plants, they look so droopy.

02:34:45.355 --> 02:34:46.870
I wonder if they live?

02:35:08.018 --> 02:35:10.080
When I came here
what I was thinking about

02:35:10.164 --> 02:35:13.077
is looking around, maybe moving here.

02:35:13.604 --> 02:35:17.835
Change in life for me
and to be near you too.

02:35:19.543 --> 02:35:21.548
I just can\'t think about it.

02:35:22.249 --> 02:35:24.000
Yes, the same thing happened to me.

02:35:25.444 --> 02:35:26.734
I came back.

02:35:27.971 --> 02:35:30.456
I had a lot of dreams
about living in the desert.

02:35:30.894 --> 02:35:32.691
I wanted to learn about everything.

02:35:32.781 --> 02:35:34.889
I have even thought of living in the Hogan.

02:35:36.588 --> 02:35:38.131
It\'s true.

02:35:38.908 --> 02:35:42.536
I thought about becoming an Indian
or something like that.

02:35:44.056 --> 02:35:45.962
Also, be with you.

02:35:47.087 --> 02:35:49.670
Also to be a mystic, a mountain man.

02:35:51.581 --> 02:35:53.242
There\'s a lot of fantasies.

02:36:27.425 --> 02:36:28.404
I got to piss.

02:36:30.108 --> 02:36:31.849
[?] This print shot.

02:36:31.938 --> 02:36:33.369
Do it right on time.

02:36:34.032 --> 02:36:36.781
Okay, listen,
go over that paragraph again.

02:36:37.990 --> 02:36:41.783
Wealth and power passed on
from one white wealthy male to another,

02:36:41.971 --> 02:36:44.729
and they develop an insulated clan

02:36:44.847 --> 02:36:46.950
described by some as the power elite.

02:36:47.289 --> 02:36:48.804
Young men from this caste,

02:36:48.903 --> 02:36:51.971
look forward to being tracked
for successful and easy life.

02:36:52.192 --> 02:36:54.202
Women are the property of these men.

02:36:54.447 --> 02:36:57.929
The poor are their laborers,
non-white are their slaves.

02:36:58.112 --> 02:37:01.223
Each of this oppressed groups
are potentially very powerful.

02:37:01.317 --> 02:37:03.298
United they are unconquerable.

02:37:03.388 --> 02:37:04.767
Invincible.

02:37:05.858 --> 02:37:07.021
Well?

02:37:07.515 --> 02:37:08.842
Yuck-o.

02:37:10.301 --> 02:37:12.018
Maybe you\'ve heard it too much.

02:37:12.197 --> 02:37:14.390
I have, I really have.

02:37:14.607 --> 02:37:17.364
When we wrote it,
it sounded new and fresh.

02:37:17.802 --> 02:37:20.183
We distilled everything that we felt;

02:37:20.635 --> 02:37:23.204
all our hatreds in, all our emotions,

02:37:23.402 --> 02:37:25.101
and we got these words on paper.

02:37:25.200 --> 02:37:27.515
Right?
Oh, yes, but that\'s the thing.

02:37:27.717 --> 02:37:29.063
We wrote it.

02:37:29.181 --> 02:37:30.705
We were really into it,

02:37:30.804 --> 02:37:33.355
we really are into it because it\'s true.

02:37:34.112 --> 02:37:37.411
Now, I listen to those words
and they are just dead.

02:37:37.929 --> 02:37:39.604
You know how when you hear a word

02:37:39.708 --> 02:37:41.778
or you say a word over, over, and over

02:37:41.882 --> 02:37:43.778
it doesn\'t mean anything anymore?

02:37:43.995 --> 02:37:46.738
We\'ve been playing with all these words
for six months

02:37:46.889 --> 02:37:50.084
and it\'s time to get it printed, and that\'s it.

02:37:50.221 --> 02:37:52.677
Today is the last day and that\'s good.

02:37:56.635 --> 02:37:57.717
That\'s the thing.

02:37:57.792 --> 02:38:00.414
That\'s the thing
that we got to get going for ourselves,

02:38:00.945 --> 02:38:03.783
but at least there\'s an introduction
to a manual

02:38:03.882 --> 02:38:05.788
that\'s going to get somebody out of jail,

02:38:05.863 --> 02:38:08.028
real people out of a real jails.

02:38:08.098 --> 02:38:09.345
That\'s right.

02:38:13.312 --> 02:38:15.247
7.44.50.

02:38:30.456 --> 02:38:32.795
[background conversation]

02:38:42.141 --> 02:38:47.049
Once you get out to eight centimeter,
I\'m getting transmissions.

02:38:48.475 --> 02:38:51.082
[?]

02:38:55.971 --> 02:38:57.764
Don\'t worry about this.

02:39:32.611 --> 02:39:34.188
Rear-end.

02:39:46.192 --> 02:39:49.604
That was my little princess,
you wanted to go to sleep.

02:39:51.764 --> 02:39:54.654
I\'m very judgmental about those things.

02:39:55.322 --> 02:39:58.677
Does that mean the baby is pressing?

02:39:59.407 --> 02:40:01.967
[?].

02:40:02.823 --> 02:40:04.456
This happens once in a while.

02:40:04.560 --> 02:40:05.618
I think it\'s kicking.

02:40:13.454 --> 02:40:14.889
Another Scorpio.

02:40:18.112 --> 02:40:19.280
Maybe it is.

02:40:19.364 --> 02:40:20.880
Where is the heart?

02:40:20.992 --> 02:40:22.329
Where does she listen?

02:40:22.569 --> 02:40:25.778
That\'s what I can figure,
the head is right here.

02:40:25.778 --> 02:40:28.103
She doesn\'t work but you can feel.

02:40:39.454 --> 02:40:41.167
Did they have any juice?

02:40:41.505 --> 02:40:43.444
No, but you surely don\'t want something?

02:40:43.538 --> 02:40:46.047
They\'ve got cheese, sandwich,
or fish sandwich,

02:40:46.117 --> 02:40:47.294
or something like that.

02:40:47.369 --> 02:40:49.444
Look, I don\'t want any of their lousy food.

02:40:50.498 --> 02:40:52.936
Let\'s not get into all that again,
we\'re all tired,

02:40:53.021 --> 02:40:55.030
we couldn\'t find a better place to stop.

02:40:56.818 --> 02:40:58.301
Let\'s get something to eat

02:40:58.470 --> 02:41:01.364
and find a place to stay for the night.

02:41:03.087 --> 02:41:05.392
I\'ve been thinking
while I\'ve been sitting here

02:41:05.562 --> 02:41:08.625
how much control in that
the whole environment in the last year

02:41:08.705 --> 02:41:10.277
while we\'ve been living with people.

02:41:10.385 --> 02:41:12.042
Now it\'s just the three of us

02:41:12.414 --> 02:41:15.849
and I feel like there\'s no space
[?] any of my feelings.

02:41:15.938 --> 02:41:17.585
I\'m starting to feel lousy,

02:41:17.661 --> 02:41:19.595
I\'m starting to feel nebulous, and awful.

02:41:19.708 --> 02:41:22.409
All those old feelings coming back again.

02:41:25.228 --> 02:41:29.727
Well, I think since we stop traveling,
get Leaf settled

02:41:30.150 --> 02:41:32.832
and we will be able to work
through some of this stuff.

02:41:33.792 --> 02:41:37.948
Well, if you feel that way too,
then why don\'t you talk about it more?

02:41:38.541 --> 02:41:41.581
I feel like you get into this thing--

02:41:42.522 --> 02:41:44.564
No, we get into this thing, okay.

02:41:44.672 --> 02:41:47.223
We start getting really cut off
from each other.

02:41:47.341 --> 02:41:48.917
I don\'t know what you\'re thinking,

02:41:49.021 --> 02:41:51.717
what you\'re feeling,
what it is you really want to do.

02:41:51.816 --> 02:41:53.717
I get trapped in that.

02:41:56.536 --> 02:41:58.809
What\'s to make it?

02:41:59.002 --> 02:42:00.894
Why want it to get worse?

02:42:01.011 --> 02:42:03.209
I\'m really getting scared.

02:42:03.647 --> 02:42:06.677
I get scared when it gets like this too.

02:42:07.477 --> 02:42:09.364
Just the two of us and Leaf.

02:42:10.000 --> 02:42:14.169
We\'ve got to find some space
with other people somehow,

02:42:14.588 --> 02:42:20.625
but the other thing is we talked
about splitting up for a while.

02:42:20.710 --> 02:42:22.884
I don\'t know.
Maybe this is the time to do that.

02:42:22.960 --> 02:42:24.564
Have you seen Leaf recently?

02:42:24.680 --> 02:42:26.762
Yes, I think he\'s just walking around here.

02:42:26.860 --> 02:42:27.943
Okay.

02:42:28.047 --> 02:42:29.275
He\'ll be all right.

02:42:29.590 --> 02:42:33.552
You say that,
but I feel that we\'re losing sight

02:42:33.656 --> 02:42:35.491
of that freedom that we talked about.

02:42:35.595 --> 02:42:37.416
We\'re getting really boxed in

02:42:37.821 --> 02:42:41.369
and we\'re just losing touch
with everything we believed in.

02:42:41.548 --> 02:42:43.411
This lousy waitressing job.

02:42:43.491 --> 02:42:45.840
I don\'t know what the fuck
I\'m getting into it for.

02:42:45.934 --> 02:42:48.512
It has nothing to do with me
and I don\'t want it.

02:42:51.143 --> 02:42:57.327
Just the way you bring up
splitting up right now,

02:42:57.430 --> 02:43:01.044
it\'s like you\'re trying to make me go now

02:43:01.162 --> 02:43:05.430
just because I\'m bringing up something
that means something to me.

02:43:05.534 --> 02:43:08.056
Just because I\'m getting in touch
with my feelings.

02:43:08.164 --> 02:43:10.705
Come on, you know
that wasn\'t what I meant.

02:43:10.809 --> 02:43:13.232
I thought you wanted
some space to be alone

02:43:13.407 --> 02:43:16.014
and that\'s why I brought up
the idea of splitting up.

02:43:16.569 --> 02:43:20.061
About the job,
you can make hippie candles

02:43:20.150 --> 02:43:22.263
or pick apples next summer,

02:43:23.228 --> 02:43:26.282
but we got to get something
to get us through,

02:43:26.371 --> 02:43:28.287
and I\'ll take a job if that\'s what it was.

02:43:28.437 --> 02:43:30.602
Shit, Lou, that\'s not the point.

02:43:30.795 --> 02:43:33.138
We always have
these kinds of discussions

02:43:33.223 --> 02:43:35.124
and they\'re always so bloody rational

02:43:35.223 --> 02:43:37.821
like when we talked about
where we are going to live.

02:43:37.896 --> 02:43:40.894
I always come away feeling-- No.

02:43:40.992 --> 02:43:42.865
How do you come away feeling?

02:43:42.992 --> 02:43:45.971
You never talk about that,
like you never get in touch with it.

02:43:46.070 --> 02:43:48.955
You must be feeling things
in a deeper way than that.

02:43:49.242 --> 02:43:52.687
It\'s like everything rolls up
your back like water.

02:43:53.209 --> 02:43:56.131
Why don\'t you get angry sometimes?

02:43:57.463 --> 02:44:00.461
Look, I can\'t talk about it
any longer in this way.

02:44:00.668 --> 02:44:07.807
We will have to talk about it later
when we settle down that for a while.

02:44:08.588 --> 02:44:10.404
This way, fuck you.

02:44:10.494 --> 02:44:14.522
It\'s always your way and your space,
and your reality.

02:44:14.776 --> 02:44:18.249
I am me
and I\'m bloody well suffocating.

02:44:18.362 --> 02:44:20.856
Well, we\'ll have to talk about it later.

02:45:24.418 --> 02:45:26.042
I got to close it.

02:45:31.571 --> 02:45:33.491
I got to close it.

02:45:33.712 --> 02:45:35.623
I got to close it.

02:45:45.590 --> 02:45:47.327
Now what\'s going on?

02:45:47.496 --> 02:45:49.007
What\'s up?
He\'s [?] here.

02:45:49.110 --> 02:45:51.181
Yes?
I know what I\'m into.

02:45:51.275 --> 02:45:52.724
Well, he shouldn\'t,

02:45:52.814 --> 02:45:55.741
but you don\'t really have to get
into a whole hassle about it.

02:45:57.320 --> 02:45:59.727
Hey, Lou.
Let them work it out himself.

02:45:59.882 --> 02:46:01.148
Okay.

02:46:01.247 --> 02:46:03.256
I got to close.

02:46:04.541 --> 02:46:07.167
Okay. Why don\'t we try to get this done now?

02:46:07.303 --> 02:46:09.035
One of us have to go into the town.

02:46:10.560 --> 02:46:14.414
Maybe I\'ll go into the town
and you can [?]

02:46:14.672 --> 02:46:17.581
Okay, you have to go [?].

02:46:17.675 --> 02:46:22.183
Okay, all we have to do is push out
and push the generator.

02:46:22.898 --> 02:46:25.082
And take [crosstalk], yes.

02:46:26.550 --> 02:46:28.884
Take all these knots off around them.

02:46:28.974 --> 02:46:30.376
Water pump.
This one?

02:46:30.461 --> 02:46:33.195
[?]. Okay?

02:46:33.708 --> 02:46:34.941
Okay.

02:46:35.237 --> 02:46:37.920
Now, we have to make a snow woman.

02:46:38.065 --> 02:46:40.230
Yes, snow woman.

02:46:40.357 --> 02:46:42.381
Why don\'t you all play with this

02:46:42.475 --> 02:46:45.256
and we\'ll take care of the car
while you\'re playing this.

02:46:47.054 --> 02:46:48.098
Right on.

02:46:48.272 --> 02:46:50.536
Have a little bit of this snow.

02:46:57.651 --> 02:46:58.842
It\'s a half-inch.

02:47:11.312 --> 02:47:13.585
Take this one out, get the thing you want.

02:47:14.018 --> 02:47:15.341
Right.

02:47:15.637 --> 02:47:17.642
Maybe you want to go to the town with me

02:47:17.736 --> 02:47:19.642
while I take the water pump.

02:47:19.764 --> 02:47:20.955
You want to do that?
Yes.

02:47:21.058 --> 02:47:22.475
How is she ever going to learn

02:47:22.574 --> 02:47:24.277
how to be a better mechanic than me?

02:47:24.376 --> 02:47:25.934
Well, it\'s still early [?]

02:47:26.037 --> 02:47:28.442
Oh, not big enough one.

02:47:28.960 --> 02:47:30.705
Okay, I\'ll be back a little bit.

02:47:31.948 --> 02:47:35.087
How many more miles
is it going to take to get to home?

02:47:35.200 --> 02:47:37.604
Well, I don\'t know how many miles,

02:47:37.745 --> 02:47:39.887
but it probably will take one more day.

02:47:40.084 --> 02:47:42.447
It all depends on how long
it\'s going to take us

02:47:42.510 --> 02:47:44.969
to get into this car to work.
I can\'t wait till it\'s fixed.

02:47:45.050 --> 02:47:47.868
I know you can\'t wait and I know
your parents can\'t wait to get you home,

02:47:47.962 --> 02:47:49.472
but we\'re just going to have to wait.

02:47:49.562 --> 02:47:52.018
We all have to work together
and not moan about it;

02:47:52.089 --> 02:47:53.694
sound good to you?

02:47:54.000 --> 02:48:00.004
[music]

02:48:45.317 --> 02:48:47.176
It\'s becoming more of a reality.

02:48:47.284 --> 02:48:51.887
We have to consider
what the situation is going to be,

02:48:51.985 --> 02:48:53.251
how it should occur.

02:48:53.345 --> 02:48:54.517
Right.

02:48:54.597 --> 02:49:00.371
Go ahead and cry [?].

02:49:03.990 --> 02:49:10.216
If you can come up with
a $600 deposit [?] as possible,

02:49:10.376 --> 02:49:12.715
you will be Dr. Brew\'s private patient.

02:49:13.124 --> 02:49:15.143
There will be in a private labor room

02:49:15.392 --> 02:49:21.934
and I anticipate the cost
for 24 hours in care

02:49:22.018 --> 02:49:25.774
which is the minimum cost
about $200 to $250

02:49:25.877 --> 02:49:30.404
and it\'s not including anesthesia
which theoretically you don\'t need.

02:49:34.776 --> 02:49:36.089
Oh, yes.

02:49:36.188 --> 02:49:38.418
[?] The clinic will not be a problem.

02:49:38.517 --> 02:49:41.007
Your clinic, it\'s not about the clinic.

02:49:41.096 --> 02:49:42.560
No clinic.
I will pay.

02:49:42.677 --> 02:49:44.418
As long as I\'m really sure

02:49:44.536 --> 02:49:47.567
that you have the deposit
which is refundable.

02:49:47.976 --> 02:49:51.472
Whatever you haven\'t used
is more than refundable and--

02:49:53.383 --> 02:49:55.877
I am really tensed.

02:49:56.122 --> 02:50:00.630
[?]

02:50:02.056 --> 02:50:03.840
Oh, it was a baby.

02:50:04.569 --> 02:50:07.750
I just can\'t let go because [?]

02:50:07.938 --> 02:50:09.731
Sometimes it really opens.

02:50:09.825 --> 02:50:14.371
She\'s maybe facing,
[?] finishing the basic, right?

02:50:14.555 --> 02:50:19.948
[?]

02:50:20.047 --> 02:50:21.341
It\'s different.

02:50:21.450 --> 02:50:25.303
[?]

02:50:25.407 --> 02:50:26.644
What did she say?

02:50:26.804 --> 02:50:28.574
Believe it or not, she\'s happy.

02:50:30.856 --> 02:50:32.865
You\'re doing fine.

02:50:36.884 --> 02:50:38.550
You got 5 centimeters long.

02:50:45.101 --> 02:50:46.757
Oh, no.
Oh, no.

02:50:47.712 --> 02:50:51.802
A puppy, a puppy [?]

02:50:51.995 --> 02:50:54.367
Yes, right.

02:50:55.355 --> 02:50:56.790
That\'s okay.

02:50:59.727 --> 02:51:01.134
Yes, that\'s right.

02:51:01.223 --> 02:51:03.440
[?]

02:51:03.538 --> 02:51:04.832
That\'s not going to work.

02:51:06.705 --> 02:51:08.578
You know why it won\'t work?

02:51:14.169 --> 02:51:15.854
There you go.

02:51:16.225 --> 02:51:17.948
Some are broken.

02:51:18.861 --> 02:51:20.254
They\'re sticking.

02:51:34.616 --> 02:51:35.938
What do you think?

02:51:40.541 --> 02:51:42.037
All right so far.

02:51:44.480 --> 02:51:46.301
I don\'t know about the other things.

02:51:48.785 --> 02:51:49.971
What do you mean by that?

02:51:50.145 --> 02:51:54.178
What we were talking about, our roads.

02:51:54.635 --> 02:51:56.898
I always wanted to be a doctor.

02:51:58.635 --> 02:52:00.047
The position,

02:52:01.581 --> 02:52:05.190
the professional status, and the income.

02:52:06.677 --> 02:52:10.324
I wanted a good life
for your mother and myself,

02:52:12.225 --> 02:52:18.141
and also for you, for training, schooling.

02:52:21.543 --> 02:52:23.058
It\'s funny how that works.

02:52:25.515 --> 02:52:28.489
I grew up with a privilege
of never having to won on anything,

02:52:29.176 --> 02:52:30.781
so I never believed in it.

02:52:34.602 --> 02:52:39.025
I believed it\'s the most important thing
in the world.

02:52:41.698 --> 02:52:43.237
When did you stop?

02:52:48.315 --> 02:52:50.282
Did I ever stop?

02:52:51.383 --> 02:52:52.800
I think you did.

02:53:04.823 --> 02:53:06.687
Open your mouth.

02:53:07.468 --> 02:53:08.762
Say \"ah.\"

02:53:08.865 --> 02:53:12.597
Ah.

02:53:14.734 --> 02:53:17.317
I think it began when I quit college.

02:53:18.103 --> 02:53:21.007
I thought you\'re just holding on to something.

02:53:26.931 --> 02:53:28.710
That was true.

02:53:30.828 --> 02:53:32.672
What was happening in those days.

02:53:46.531 --> 02:53:47.962
Breathe deeply.

02:53:53.317 --> 02:53:54.851
Breathe.

02:54:00.004 --> 02:54:01.482
Breathe.

02:54:06.691 --> 02:54:08.004
Breathe.

02:54:14.390 --> 02:54:16.536
Well, Peter, there are real choices.

02:54:18.715 --> 02:54:20.517
One can change.

02:54:22.211 --> 02:54:24.644
I have changed.

02:54:26.258 --> 02:54:29.280
I take more poor patients
on at the hospitals

02:54:30.051 --> 02:54:34.409
and I work on the ward
a couple of days a week.

02:54:34.654 --> 02:54:36.084
Nothing special.

02:54:36.837 --> 02:54:38.291
It seems special.

02:54:41.218 --> 02:54:43.632
It all adds up, to me.

02:54:44.969 --> 02:54:46.371
Everything.

02:54:47.308 --> 02:54:49.312
I thought a lot about you being in jail.

02:54:53.110 --> 02:54:55.110
Your letters were really important to me.

02:54:56.503 --> 02:54:58.037
I loved them.

02:54:59.505 --> 02:55:01.011
Lie down.

02:55:07.614 --> 02:55:12.715
Peter, you really do have to have
a profession or skill some sort of.

02:55:13.397 --> 02:55:17.520
To give your life some sort of focus
it\'s absolutely necessary.

02:55:17.825 --> 02:55:21.590
I have seen so many people
suffer from them, people your age.

02:55:22.668 --> 02:55:24.475
I want that focus also.

02:55:27.529 --> 02:55:32.362
It\'s still not to late for me
to get you admitted to medical school.

02:55:32.715 --> 02:55:34.075
Dad.

02:55:39.185 --> 02:55:40.635
Legs up.

02:55:42.042 --> 02:55:44.051
Listen, next week I\'m going to stop working

02:55:44.145 --> 02:55:45.844
in this box factory downtown.

02:55:47.214 --> 02:55:48.687
A box factory?

02:55:52.075 --> 02:55:55.712
I can support you for a while
so that you can find your legs

02:55:55.821 --> 02:55:59.694
and find some work that is suitable
for you if it\'s the money.

02:56:02.338 --> 02:56:04.235
I\'m glad you want to support me, dad.

02:56:09.487 --> 02:56:16.240
If it isn\'t the money, then what is it?

02:56:16.348 --> 02:56:22.800
Is it that feeling of how we lived
and our relationships with people?

02:56:22.903 --> 02:56:26.056
I suppose class, maybe?

02:56:26.287 --> 02:56:27.877
Is that what\'s bothering you?

02:56:30.145 --> 02:56:32.014
I guess it is.

02:56:34.009 --> 02:56:36.334
I don\'t want to have
those privileges anymore.

02:56:39.063 --> 02:56:41.016
I just want to do some hard work.

02:56:43.195 --> 02:56:45.312
In 10 years you are still be building.

02:56:49.505 --> 02:56:51.016
We\'ll see.

02:57:02.818 --> 02:57:05.228
They\'re really with the long.

02:57:05.374 --> 02:57:07.091
It\'s stopping it now.

02:57:07.209 --> 02:57:08.592
They\'re getting longer.

02:57:08.687 --> 02:57:09.929
They have to stop.

02:57:10.018 --> 02:57:12.381
[?]

02:57:12.842 --> 02:57:15.082
I need you down there for a minute.

02:57:17.774 --> 02:57:20.080
For one moment please,
you don\'t need to go away,

02:57:20.174 --> 02:57:22.296
just a little work.

02:57:25.204 --> 02:57:28.814
Just to see if the baby\'s head descended.

02:57:29.030 --> 02:57:30.988
[?]

02:57:31.214 --> 02:57:34.004
Well, I call it 45 at 6.

02:57:34.564 --> 02:57:36.188
It\'s more than before.

02:57:36.865 --> 02:57:40.202
The main thing is that
I think our outlook is a little better

02:57:40.305 --> 02:57:42.955
throughout the [?]
I think it\'s one of the things

02:57:43.063 --> 02:57:45.736
that help maintain the rate or level.

02:57:45.840 --> 02:57:49.200
[crosstalk] what happened.

02:57:49.609 --> 02:57:51.152
I think it\'s a direct OA.

02:57:52.258 --> 02:57:55.872
This is a great favorable position,
so we can go ahead.

02:57:57.200 --> 02:58:02.654
Keep that train coming
rolling round the bed.

02:58:04.216 --> 02:58:05.764
All right.

02:58:09.849 --> 02:58:11.995
It goes really well.

02:58:15.665 --> 02:58:17.223
It goes there.

02:58:17.345 --> 02:58:20.042
There\'s tension by definition.

02:58:27.167 --> 02:58:29.237
[?]

02:58:39.830 --> 02:58:41.618
It\'s like it calmed down.

02:58:42.042 --> 02:58:43.247
This could be.

02:58:49.891 --> 02:58:51.807
Get through as we found it.

02:59:04.903 --> 02:59:06.654
I think it get stuck, the eyes.

02:59:06.856 --> 02:59:11.303
Breathe, breathe.

02:59:13.755 --> 02:59:15.990
Look at Joe, look at Joe.

02:59:33.515 --> 02:59:34.997
Let her suck.

02:59:38.428 --> 02:59:40.023
Breathe, breathe.

02:59:41.054 --> 02:59:42.564
Last one.

02:59:44.018 --> 02:59:45.209
Okay.

02:59:53.392 --> 02:59:55.529
Breathe.

03:00:01.821 --> 03:00:03.284
Breathe, breathe.

03:00:15.303 --> 03:00:16.536
Watch Joe.

03:00:18.418 --> 03:00:19.604
Okay.

03:00:20.061 --> 03:00:21.251
Good.

03:00:21.477 --> 03:00:23.312
Now about seven centimeters.

03:00:23.411 --> 03:00:24.738
almost there.

03:00:28.955 --> 03:00:30.400
No, no.

03:00:31.835 --> 03:00:34.037
Not like it was--

03:00:35.534 --> 03:00:39.614
I was born on the floor
at my own house.

03:00:40.122 --> 03:00:43.176
She was washing the floor
and all of sudden she stretched.

03:00:43.312 --> 03:00:46.371
My sister said she heard a little noise

03:00:46.484 --> 03:00:47.665
and that\'s how I was born.

03:00:47.755 --> 03:00:49.157
For just an hour.

03:00:53.091 --> 03:00:56.931
The poor people,
they very seldom went to the doctor.

03:00:57.378 --> 03:00:59.618
She took all kinds of herbs

03:00:59.731 --> 03:01:03.571
that she remembered
that was good for certain things.

03:01:04.089 --> 03:01:06.691
She put them all in little pouch bags.

03:01:07.496 --> 03:01:10.381
My mother would fix a concoction up

03:01:10.494 --> 03:01:12.376
and put them in a bottle.

03:01:12.517 --> 03:01:14.720
She sent me over to the lady\'s house

03:01:14.828 --> 03:01:19.105
and said, \"Tell her and so and so,
to give this to the baby,

03:01:19.294 --> 03:01:21.105
and it will be all right.\"

03:01:23.030 --> 03:01:24.847
Is that where the brain is?

03:01:27.538 --> 03:01:29.976
Well, the brain is very- it\'s here.

03:01:30.108 --> 03:01:31.280
In there someplace.

03:01:32.343 --> 03:01:36.912
When I massage here,
I\'m massaging the last point

03:01:36.997 --> 03:01:41.280
at one of the energy pathways
that controls the internal heating.

03:01:44.616 --> 03:01:46.272
When I talked to you last time

03:01:46.404 --> 03:01:49.788
and I said that Harriet would come,
it\'s really special for me.

03:01:49.868 --> 03:01:50.974
It\'s really nice.

03:01:51.077 --> 03:01:56.047
For me that we\'re here all the same time
is really something special.

03:01:56.305 --> 03:01:58.423
Just let your hands be comfortable.

03:01:58.512 --> 03:02:00.000
Just relax.

03:02:01.938 --> 03:02:06.640
The construction and everything,
and what a body can stand,

03:02:07.101 --> 03:02:13.392
hard work and everything,
go through all kinds of sickness,

03:02:13.491 --> 03:02:16.752
and everything,
and still the body holds up.

03:02:25.543 --> 03:02:27.054
We always told to mommy,

03:02:27.148 --> 03:02:28.851
\"You got to tell us all these things,

03:02:28.945 --> 03:02:31.082
tell us how to do it
because in case you die.\"

03:02:31.190 --> 03:02:33.204
Oh, she said,
\"I\'m going to live a long time.

03:02:33.355 --> 03:02:34.945
I\'ll teach you, don\'t worry.\"

03:02:35.374 --> 03:02:37.265
She had an accident and died.

03:02:38.461 --> 03:02:40.545
She washed the clothes and I said to her,

03:02:40.640 --> 03:02:42.767
\"Mama, let me hang the clothes.\"

03:02:42.945 --> 03:02:45.374
She goes, \"No, no, no, I will hang them.\"

03:02:45.750 --> 03:02:48.908
She went and stood
on the edge of the roof

03:02:49.082 --> 03:02:51.218
so that the sheets wouldn\'t get dirty.

03:02:51.411 --> 03:02:54.447
She fell and she fall on a picket fence.

03:02:54.691 --> 03:02:55.891
She was very bad.

03:02:55.985 --> 03:02:58.141
They had to put her
on a critical list and all.

03:02:58.320 --> 03:03:02.663
She said to me,
\"I dreamed of St. Bridget last night

03:03:04.084 --> 03:03:07.760
and I\'m going to die in three days

03:03:08.348 --> 03:03:10.931
and get me out of this hospital.\"

03:03:11.727 --> 03:03:17.844
My mother came home
and the third day, she died.

03:03:18.527 --> 03:03:20.583
The priest came out and he was crying.

03:03:20.936 --> 03:03:24.418
He said to me, \"I have never seen
a woman like this in all my life.\"

03:03:24.847 --> 03:03:26.922
I said, \"Well, what did she do father?\"

03:03:27.021 --> 03:03:28.960
He says, \"Oh, I can\'t tell you child.\"

03:03:29.284 --> 03:03:32.814
He said, \"But you\'re losing a good mother.\"

03:03:35.072 --> 03:03:36.381
I did.

03:03:52.842 --> 03:03:53.835
Yes, yes.

03:03:55.237 --> 03:03:56.432
You got a mirror?

03:03:56.531 --> 03:03:57.929
The mirror is in the bedroom.

03:03:58.037 --> 03:04:00.150
Well, she won\'t be able
to see it anyway.

03:04:03.863 --> 03:04:05.204
Put it back.

03:04:05.284 --> 03:04:09.618
[?]

03:04:09.703 --> 03:04:15.270
[?]

03:04:22.804 --> 03:04:24.748
[?] a little, a little.

03:04:24.865 --> 03:04:26.635
A little push, a little push.

03:04:26.743 --> 03:04:28.734
Just a little push.

03:04:28.988 --> 03:04:31.294
All right.
Stop. Stop.

03:04:35.567 --> 03:04:36.851
One big one.

03:04:37.157 --> 03:04:42.564
Keep going, keep going, push, push, push.

03:04:42.837 --> 03:04:44.310
Keep going.

03:04:44.856 --> 03:04:46.108
Is the contraction over?

03:04:47.237 --> 03:04:48.522
Yes.

03:04:48.757 --> 03:04:49.938
Deep breath.

03:04:50.042 --> 03:04:52.480
Push, push, push.

03:04:56.362 --> 03:04:58.861
Keep going.
Keep going.

03:05:04.254 --> 03:05:05.694
Keep going.

03:05:06.192 --> 03:05:07.501
Push.

03:05:07.821 --> 03:05:09.628
It\'s coming, Susie.

03:05:09.722 --> 03:05:10.800
It\'s coming.

03:05:13.651 --> 03:05:15.247
Somebody look.

03:05:15.374 --> 03:05:16.395
Yes.

03:05:18.202 --> 03:05:19.590
Take a breath.

03:05:19.811 --> 03:05:21.590
Hold it, push.

03:05:27.482 --> 03:05:28.583
Push.

03:05:28.894 --> 03:05:30.625
Keep going, Susie.

03:05:30.894 --> 03:05:32.767
Keep going, keep going.

03:05:32.912 --> 03:05:34.498
There\'s quite a contraction.

03:05:34.616 --> 03:05:35.905
It\'s right again.

03:05:36.018 --> 03:05:41.162
It [?] deep breath, deep breath.

03:05:44.352 --> 03:05:46.842
It\'s coming, it\'s coming, it\'s coming,

03:05:47.378 --> 03:05:49.651
it\'s coming, it\'s coming, it\'s coming,

03:05:50.432 --> 03:05:52.630
it\'s coming, it\'s coming.

03:05:56.988 --> 03:05:58.512
Keep going, Susie.

03:05:59.454 --> 03:06:01.327
It\'s coming, Susie.

03:06:06.917 --> 03:06:08.367
Spread whole your legs.

03:06:08.475 --> 03:06:10.051
Hold up her legs.

03:06:10.150 --> 03:06:12.480
Your contraction is probably over.

03:06:12.621 --> 03:06:14.160
Okay.

03:06:14.301 --> 03:06:16.334
Real deep breath, push.

03:06:16.630 --> 03:06:26.724
Push, push, push, push.

03:06:26.842 --> 03:06:29.388
Great, great, great.

03:06:33.223 --> 03:06:35.468
A couple more pushes and you\'re done.

03:06:35.849 --> 03:06:37.204
That\'s right.

03:06:40.324 --> 03:06:41.938
You did so well.

03:06:42.489 --> 03:06:44.122
You don\'t have to [?].

03:06:44.360 --> 03:06:46.983
Breathe normally
if you\'re not having contractions.

03:06:51.190 --> 03:06:55.021
Push, push, push, push, push.

03:07:09.632 --> 03:07:10.842
All right. Okay.

03:07:13.138 --> 03:07:14.348
Let it stay there.

03:07:15.830 --> 03:07:17.632
Try to sit there for a minute.

03:07:17.750 --> 03:07:20.117
Can you see it, Susie?

03:07:20.785 --> 03:07:22.136
Can you see the baby?

03:07:29.647 --> 03:07:33.312
It\'s probably we\'ll have the baby
in the next contraction.

03:07:33.863 --> 03:07:35.270
Maybe when she can.

03:07:36.574 --> 03:07:37.830
Oh, it\'s going there.

03:07:37.924 --> 03:07:39.807
All right, nice.

03:07:40.301 --> 03:07:41.407
Another push.

03:07:41.628 --> 03:07:44.376
Okay, push, push, push.

03:07:44.527 --> 03:07:45.670
Push a little.

03:07:45.783 --> 03:07:48.640
A little, a little.

03:07:48.870 --> 03:07:50.254
Stop pushing.

03:07:54.145 --> 03:07:55.449
You wanted to push that?

03:07:55.576 --> 03:07:56.865
Push.

03:07:58.145 --> 03:08:00.945
All right, stop pushing,
stop pushing, stop pushing.

03:08:01.124 --> 03:08:02.616
Stop.

03:08:02.729 --> 03:08:05.120
Easy, blow, blow, blow.

03:08:06.150 --> 03:08:07.750
All right.

03:08:12.352 --> 03:08:13.929
We need another push now, Sue.

03:08:14.037 --> 03:08:15.068
Here it is.

03:08:15.821 --> 03:08:18.216
Push, push.

03:08:18.936 --> 03:08:20.785
Push, push, push.

03:08:20.880 --> 03:08:22.983
It\'s coming.

03:08:23.924 --> 03:08:25.938
More push, Susie.

03:08:26.230 --> 03:08:28.437
More push, more push.

03:08:28.536 --> 03:08:30.428
Push, push, push, push.

03:08:35.308 --> 03:08:37.854
Keep going, keep going.

03:08:37.995 --> 03:08:43.190
It looks like a [?].

03:08:44.814 --> 03:08:46.070
Who\'s got a blanket?

03:08:52.277 --> 03:08:54.061
Does somebody notice what time is it?

03:08:56.936 --> 03:08:58.734
[laughter]

03:09:11.731 --> 03:09:13.915
Give me my mother.

03:09:17.835 --> 03:09:19.920
Baby.

03:09:29.501 --> 03:09:32.117
Oh, I know.

03:09:36.908 --> 03:09:39.185
You did it, you did it.

03:09:43.967 --> 03:09:45.571
Keep breathing.

03:09:49.661 --> 03:09:51.360
She\'s just not stopping.

03:09:51.534 --> 03:09:58.616
[crosstalk]

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Oh.

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Cut right here into the chord.

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Okay.

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She\'s all yours.

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Yes, honey.

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[crosstalk]

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I\'ll keep here in my dresses.

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I\'m not [?]

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There you go.

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Well, this is the bag of waters,
the membrane, and that stuff.

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The baby lived inside it.

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That\'s nice.

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This way it\'s attached to you, right here.

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Wow.

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[background noise]

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I am Wesley Louis Rumble,

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First Lieutenant at United States Air Force.

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[foreign language]

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I was an F-4D pilot.

03:11:57.610 --> 03:12:07.378
[foreign language]

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I was shot down and captured
on the 28th of April, 1968.

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[foreign language]

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When my airplane was hit
I had to bail out.

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[foreign language]

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As I was descending in my parachute,

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I was quite worried and fearful

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about the treatment I might receive
if I were captured.

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[foreign language]

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A few moments after I was captured,
my fear were eased.

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I was treated in a very kind manner.

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[foreign language]

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It has increased my feelings
for the Vietnamese people

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quite a bit
with this treatment I have received.

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It was been at the flight of 4:30,

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but other lab we went to
decided to print it

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from the tail on one light.

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I\'m going to start projection?

03:13:11.844 --> 03:13:13.312
Do you want me to project?

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[?] speaking.

03:13:19.872 --> 03:13:20.950
Mazel tov.

03:13:21.054 --> 03:13:23.971
She looks like a lot
like my aunt from my father side;

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especially [?] right eyeball.

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We have to admit it,
at three months old that\'s very alert.

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Wide awake.

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To see if we follow through
in the areas that are [?]

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It must be [?]

03:13:55.477 --> 03:13:57.341
You know high speed read already?

03:13:57.901 --> 03:13:59.101
We\'re that close.

03:13:59.242 --> 03:14:01.505
I\'m close when I had to.

03:14:01.647 --> 03:14:02.964
It was on the scene

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and they got another one back
close behind it.

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That\'s the problem.

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Were you at the birth?

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Missed it.
Oh, I\'m sorry to hear that.

03:14:12.800 --> 03:14:14.974
I waited and I hung around,

03:14:15.072 --> 03:14:17.322
and I planned, and I expected to go.

03:14:18.762 --> 03:14:20.847
When I got there the plane didn\'t go.

03:14:20.969 --> 03:14:23.647
I just sat in the airport
and then I finally got in a car.

03:14:23.727 --> 03:14:25.548
By the time I got there, it was all over.

03:14:25.632 --> 03:14:30.498
I bet you both were disappointed
for not making it, really.

03:14:30.687 --> 03:14:32.070
Well, I felt very bad.

03:14:32.164 --> 03:14:34.065
I wanted to be with the kid.

03:14:34.169 --> 03:14:35.505
You will be at the second one.

03:14:36.183 --> 03:14:38.254
Enough is enough.

03:14:38.352 --> 03:14:39.501
Why?

03:14:39.600 --> 03:14:41.595
She has a lot to do, that girl in her life.

03:14:41.689 --> 03:14:44.235
It\'s rough on the young sister.

03:14:44.517 --> 03:14:46.254
Is there a problem?

03:14:46.352 --> 03:14:49.487
Can I call from your office?
Sure, use the number seven line.

03:14:57.468 --> 03:15:00.009
When are you going to be finished
with your cutting?

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One week, two weeks the most.

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That time, you give me a call,

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I\'ll sit down with you on the machine.

03:15:05.665 --> 03:15:08.254
You\'ve got nice material,
you should have no problem.

03:15:09.016 --> 03:15:09.976
Good as well.

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Are you going to take these dailies?

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