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Yes

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It was just 20 years ago that he delivered

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the expansive elusive essay film
saucer lay a 100 minutes long.

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And 20 years before that adjust 28 minutes.

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He made what is not only one of
the greatest movies ever made

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nevermind if no one named it recently for
sight and sound in there ten best poles.

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I know that if you went to most of the
people polled in that magazine and asked.

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What about leisure today then
they\'d say oh one of course

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then I\'m one of them.

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We\'d come up with some fancy excuse
about being above and beyond the best.

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Luxury today may be the one
essential movie ever made.

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I mean if you woke up tomorrow
and it was just you and

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the invading and habitats
from satin or somewhere.

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And they said what is this thing called movie
and they had only a couple of minutes.

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You could show them a Fred
Astaire dance or a panning shot

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from Renoir or you could
settle for leisure today.

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And you wouldn\'t need its full 28 minutes.

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There\'s just a few seconds
that do the trick

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That crap

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Okay

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there\'s a railroad

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track sort of behind the apartment house
he lives in in the 20th and these

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wants and it\'s just packed with

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computer equipment and video equipment

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and how is he lives there and sleeps
there but it\'s somewhere there\'s a

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The mattress that he must sleep
while in the midst of all of this.

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This is something special
to rooms completely.

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Completely. Everything is
messed up with it\'s messed up

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for somebody who doesn\'t
understand what it is all about.

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Because Chris immediately in one minute finds
any film that you are asking for him for.

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He knows where Hitchcock is.

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He knows where any documentary is.

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He knows everything I don\'t understand how

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This is a man whose apartment is just full

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of video tapes and whose
video equipment and he\'s

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got the television\'s going
and he\'s got emails coming

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yeah everything\'s going as you\'re there

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the world and the work is
continuing as he takes timeout.

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And we have a property.

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He doesn\'t care.

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What surrounds him.

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He is interested only in one thing

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Creation not exactly only films.

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I think that she writes a lot.

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I think that he\'s working nonstop.

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In the mid sixties my love affair with
cinema begins with two small films.

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Both made of still photos.

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One simply titled

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J a meditation on the photos of
French photographer Eugene at

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J accompanied by piano pieces
composed by Erik Satie.

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The combination like swirls of cream in

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iced coffee creates a sensuous
robbery of a paris between wars.

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The other you guessed it
Galatia a meditation on

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a Paris after the war World War three
that is also composed of still images.

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With one electrifying exception

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When the woman asleep in
stillness opens your eyes to

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my astonishment that small ordinary
gesture opens a world of possibilities.

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But first so insulae or sunless which was a
modest art house hit its first time around.

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But which may now seem bewildering
Lee personal or arbitrary.

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It is a kind of letter of

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vast aside filled email composed before
emails were known in which a woman\'s voice.

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That is the Franco-American actress Alexandra
Stuart keeps talking about some things.

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Some man has told her.

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I stress that because it is an
odd fence like devise a way of

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keeping the film not just at a distance
but half a step around the corner.

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First he told her about three
children CNR road in Iceland.

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And there they are blondes
brightest still in

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the sun in fields that
still seem incompletely

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thought just an image of happiness or of

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movies reckless talent for
creating a golden past.

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He said that for him it was the image
of happiness and also that he had tried

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several times to link it to other images
but it never worked. He wrote me.

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One day I\'ll have to put it
all alone at the beginning of

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a field with a long piece of black leader.

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If they don\'t see happiness in the
picture at least they\'ll see the black.

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After that with the same gear shift
narration science delay is off.

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A lot of it is set in Japan and in Africa with
attention to modern electronic myth-making

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as well as the older kind that have lasted
centuries as religious and social rituals.

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If this overall impression on sounds delay

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hasn\'t fully conveyed tone
or range of the film.

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Well I\'d say it\'s like
something made by WG Sebald

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and John Berger with burgess
hall again the imagery like

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a man in love with photography yet well
aware that this medium that supposedly

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evokes presence may actually help
us feel absence more profoundly.

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And Sebald quietly murmuring on about

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seemingly inconsequential things until
the holes and the lines containing them

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Subject to one short tag and of voila a
net full of shining fish where the fish

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Derrick Coleman wrote Daniel Potter Daniel.

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It was shortly after I arrived Berlin.

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198485 when I first saw sand so

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May if I had to come up with

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a shortlist of 20th century artistic
works that changed my perception

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Forever this film would be one of them.

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Sandra Lee has accompanied me ever since.

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Although I still haven\'t figured
out exactly why this is

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the case maybe this happens to anyone

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who had his own fair share of
insane in impossible memory.

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I also suspect that markers vision of an
electronic language everyone will use to create

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his own list of things that
quicken the heart was one of

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the reasons why I finally took
AP Computer Science in 1989.

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Instead of continuing
physics or philosophy.

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But who can never be sure
about its ultimate motives

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This my best shot to describe what

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happened to me when I saw sons
delay for the first time.

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I left the cinema dazed and confused
my head turned and felt somehow numb.

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The street noise hardly reached my ears.

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I wondered what had happened to me.

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And it took a brisk walk through the
fresh air to get me back to normal.

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Probably was quite an
amazing experience because

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I was one of the first films
I saw which didn\'t actually

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have something like a
proper storyline or a plot.

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If you want many years later I read

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something along the following lines.

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In Santa Fe the image is
neither illustrate the text.

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Nor does the text comment

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the images was the director himself
who made the statement which

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might be the first example of

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a new literary form that is related
but not similar to a aphorisms.

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Maybe we should call them remarkable.

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Shown again had a passion for lists.

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A list of things distressing
things or even of things

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not with doing one day she got

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the idea of drawing up the list
of things that kick in the heart

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Criteria and I realized when I\'m
filming about the economic miracle.

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But what I want to show you other
neighborhood celebrations.

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Seeing sounds Ole totally liberated me
from the vision of what I had previously

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thought cinema to be let\'s let films
really reflect the way our minds work.

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I think that boy felt because it was like
the sun of kind of stream of consciousness

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kind of thing. But with a very political
context with a very personal context.

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Over the years over the past 20 years I

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sought out as many of his films as I
could and there weren\'t easy to find.

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And as I grew older not not at the
time when I first saw his films.

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I was just a young person that was very
impressed with his artistic abilities.

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But as I became a worker as I got involved
in struggles of my own I became more of

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a political activist and I
found even more reasons to

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become engaged with his work because his
work had a political edge also to them.

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That that I\'ve found very unique

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I was able to get lost within myself

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and take a trip that\'s boat was
both external and internal.

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And it was something
that like poetry allowed

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me to be introduced to
something that I didn\'t

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feel I needed to comprehend and understand.

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Not certainly at the first screening
and I knew there would be

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subsequent subsequent screenings
and readings of such a work

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In the same phrase the
morning after independence.

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Now the real problems start.

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Corral never got a chance to say it.

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He was assassinated first.

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But the problem started and
went on and are still going on.

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Rather unexciting problems for revolutionary
romanticism to work to produce to

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distribute to overcome post-war exhaustion
temptations of power and privilege.

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Where after all history only tastes bitter
to those who expected it to be sugarcoat

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and part of what really fascinates
me as the structure of essay

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Film and the structure is what
to lose recall rhizomatic.

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Deleuze talks about and
Guattari that there\'s

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a trees tree root structure which is just
a main route and then it branches off.

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Whereas the rhizome sends out
roots laterally and then

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they come up and then begin new plants.

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Chris is like an artist and his
studio in his studio is the world.

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Even to understand

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He told me that he doesn\'t make
a rough graph and this I will

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never understand because I
make at least ten rough cuts.

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I used to make 20.

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Now I make at least ten.

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I know that drinking a Coke makes 25.

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But he said to me and that I

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trust him I trust and everything
and anything he said that he

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immediately put it
together this film and he

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knew from the very beginning
that it would be a

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120 minutes long and that he will put
it together without any rough cut need.

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Kate has a clock somewhere
in his brain which is

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able to pace it and he can
construct and create all this.

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You know all these genius
C Continue to ingenuity.

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That\'s the right way.

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And you know it\'s just
impossible for me to imagine

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because I think it\'s not a normal thing.

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He is a genius.

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I think that Chris is a genius.

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I don\'t know what he will
say when he sees them.

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Because he doesn\'t like such
things to be said about him

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Once he has to hear it from
somebody who loves the mother.

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In the mid seventies in the midst of
the Watergate scandal we would need in

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a hallway at a film
conference where you would

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show to documentaries made
by the Sloan collective.

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I would remember only one.

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It was a short film that
train rolls on about

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the Soviet filmmaker Alexander made bed Kim
and he\'s experiment with the cinema train.

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Seven years later it would
become part of a longer film.

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The brilliant the last Bolshevik

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Practice it with excitement I
blurted out prays for leisure.

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And you find something like showing it.

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I was online in the late 19 seventies for a
screening of the San Francisco Film Festival.

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And they\'ve gotten a print from
a private collector of vertigo

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because there was a family that had been
out of distribution for many years.

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And everybody online was very
exciting waiting for the show

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And I fell into conversation with the man

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standing either just in front of me or just

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behind me online we chatted
for quite a while.

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And I can\'t remember what made me understand
that I was in the presence of indeed

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talking to Chris Marker but it was one of

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the most probably the most exciting moment
I\'ve ever had standing on line for a movie.

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And he had an eye I had
never seen the film.

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It was impossible to see
he already was already is

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the key film in

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his cinematic obsession and I think you
already knew it by heart at that point.

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When I was running the Pacific Film
Archive in those years vertigo

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was impossible to see there
was no videotape them.

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Yeah and Hitchcock had taken
the film off the market.

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And it was this legendary film that
you could not see. Nobody can see it.

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And Chris have remembered it very
well from what he saw at first.

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But we had thanks to a private
collector who had a print of the film.

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We wanted a few few places in the world
that that had it and we had to hide in

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the fact that we hadn\'t meet faculty
never called vertigo and the catalog.

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Here we call the dizziness.

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I think we call the dizziness
and when Chris we\'ve

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come here every time he came
here to three times we would

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screen it forum in the room in
there and it was it was it was

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a fantastic thing to sit with him and
see that film that he loved so much

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He always said that
larger Tae was basically

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a kind of a remake of vertigo
has launched a vertigo.

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And of course in a there is a quotation
from vertigo with a tree trunk and

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the spirals in it are conventions seeing vertigo
obsessively you know 19 times I believe.

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She asks him about it.

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They walk. They look at the trunk of a sequoia
tree covered with his town called date.

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She pronounces the English
name he doesn\'t understand.

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Dream. He shows a point beyond
the tree is himself say.

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This is where I come from.

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We were aware of him for many
many years and somehow we had

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not seen lasciate when
ADLs or any of his work.

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In other words he was one of the
you know I\'m just we\'d never

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read Proust and we\'d never
seen Chris markers work.

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And there were these gaps and
you\'re aware of the gaps

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We\'d always known that there was

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this great filmmaker Chris Marker but we
didn\'t know much about him or anything.

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We come in we sit down and
the professor is showing us.

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What at the time for me was French
art film and it\'s stills and God.

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Here we go. I\'m going to go to sleep now.

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And I remember when the lights came
up at the end everybody was silent

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We were just knocked out by the film.

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I mean it was just amazing and it was
a wonderful experience and hey we saw

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today which was to be a unique image a piston
to carry with him through though wartime.

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He often wondered if he had ever seen it or
if he had dreamed a lovely moment to catch

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up with a crazy moment that came next
a sudden gesture to full of a body.

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Tricking people. Only later did he
realized that he had seen Amanda.

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Wow that was amazing that was really
exciting that you could do that.

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And you could do something
that I never really thought

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And then you can take
something so simple in

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a way and create this really moving
piece and in 30 minutes or whatever it

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is get you choked up get you feeling
that the dread of the human condition.

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Chris was negotiating and his
NDA loan and he was not getting

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along well with the universal
lawyers or something and

00:22:50.510 --> 00:22:58.510
Chuck roving needed some sort of fine
contract to get us to the next step.

00:22:58.895 --> 00:23:01.369
And I don\'t know quite
how or why it happened.

00:23:01.370 --> 00:23:03.199
I think we were having some other kind of

00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:06.574
meeting a creative meeting up
here with Chris But somehow

00:23:06.575 --> 00:23:09.769
And Chuck showed up and

00:23:09.770 --> 00:23:13.954
meet with Chris and eventually he got
Krista signed something on a napkin

00:23:13.955 --> 00:23:17.329
and to Chuck\'s credit somehow
Chuck got the napkin past

00:23:17.330 --> 00:23:22.590
universal which is a great
tribute to Jack woven.

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With my plan to

00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:39.510
get us back on top insurances occluded

00:23:54.100 --> 00:23:58.579
Chris was very supportive but he

00:23:58.580 --> 00:24:03.004
he he was clear he didn\'t like
the woman being a psychiatrist.

00:24:03.005 --> 00:24:09.079
The woman in legit Tay is much less defined
and it\'s a romantic figure and so on.

00:24:09.080 --> 00:24:12.634
And obviously we couldn\'t do a
modern movie without giving her

00:24:12.635 --> 00:24:16.549
a job which instantly
is a kind of a change.

00:24:16.550 --> 00:24:19.999
And I think that we picked
probably one of the jobs he would

00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:22.249
Less liked to have seen.

00:24:22.250 --> 00:24:25.999
We he thinks of lawyers is
the priests of our society.

00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:28.999
We think of psychiatrist is
the priests of our society.

00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:37.000
But he used a very kind person and he used a
gentlemen and he certainly did listen to us.

00:24:37.265 --> 00:24:40.729
And he\'s also respectful of all
other artists supportive of them.

00:24:40.730 --> 00:24:44.809
And he was he was fantastic that
way the film that I had made from

00:24:44.810 --> 00:24:49.969
larger Tae was called La pupae
which is I don\'t speak French.

00:24:49.970 --> 00:24:53.449
It\'s a nonsense where
he\'s he\'s a little dog.

00:24:53.450 --> 00:24:55.234
So la pupae.

00:24:55.235 --> 00:24:59.569
Puppy I guess. He was

00:24:59.570 --> 00:25:02.419
a stuffed animal that I had sitting
around in my bag picks him up one day

00:25:02.420 --> 00:25:04.309
I just bought this still Cameron.

00:25:04.310 --> 00:25:08.700
I thought I\'ll do large taste starring him.

00:25:09.730 --> 00:25:15.289
Ok. On Sunday the childhood story
we are telling with bound to

00:25:15.290 --> 00:25:20.329
remember the trees the bread
x1 and it golden face.

00:25:20.330 --> 00:25:25.099
And he hasn\'t managed to come he
would often wander yet Edison it

00:25:25.100 --> 00:25:30.379
off the agenda a lovely moment to catch
up with the crazy moment. Tech came neck.

00:25:30.380 --> 00:25:35.790
A shock. Body crumbled on the pavement.

00:25:38.950 --> 00:25:43.170
Only later did he realized it seen

00:25:43.930 --> 00:25:48.814
I worked hard to treated treat
this little stuffed animal

00:25:48.815 --> 00:25:53.449
seriously in the actual shooting up and
when I went down and took a little picture

00:25:53.450 --> 00:25:56.299
of him up-close I tried to make them look

00:25:56.300 --> 00:25:59.299
cute but I want to do to actually feel
his pain in the same way that I had

00:25:59.300 --> 00:26:02.269
felt in the original you know the pain

00:26:02.270 --> 00:26:05.299
of their protagonist who\'s
stuck in this future world and

00:26:05.300 --> 00:26:08.779
there\'s no hope and all he has left is

00:26:08.780 --> 00:26:13.530
this one memory from his
childhood of a beautiful phase

00:26:28.660 --> 00:26:35.809
The beautiful scene enlarge the TEI where
the animal Museum is where the hero and

00:26:35.810 --> 00:26:38.869
the girl Have some of their moments of

00:26:38.870 --> 00:26:42.394
happiness wandering around
and looking at the animals.

00:26:42.395 --> 00:26:47.580
Of course his fascination with animals
comes into almost all of his films.

00:27:03.790 --> 00:27:06.694
Here\'s what he wrote about that

00:27:06.695 --> 00:27:08.929
The animals Museum was one of

00:27:08.930 --> 00:27:12.619
the most poetic places in Paris
within the sharp Dan they plant.

00:27:12.620 --> 00:27:17.134
Even when I did the photographs it was
slowly crumbling so they had to close it.

00:27:17.135 --> 00:27:20.959
Now it\'s rebuilt in a render
pleasant way the survival beasts.

00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:24.349
Having been brushed and reinstalled
and a flashy background.

00:27:24.350 --> 00:27:26.659
But still I\'m more in the old setting with

00:27:26.660 --> 00:27:30.469
its varnished wood smell which by the
way I was the only one\'s record.

00:27:30.470 --> 00:27:33.030
Well it was still open to visitors

00:28:05.050 --> 00:28:12.199
I think if I remember correctly he was
shooting luxury May when it came to him

00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:15.439
the idea of lambda K. And
I think he shouted on

00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:19.429
the weekends in-between
shooting the rest of Joly made.

00:28:19.430 --> 00:28:23.869
And he told us that it was sort of like wasn\'t
really his film because it had just been

00:28:23.870 --> 00:28:29.160
dictated to him by whatever higher
force dictated films to people.

00:28:42.940 --> 00:28:48.874
She welcomes visitors who comes and goes.

00:28:48.875 --> 00:28:54.060
We exist. Talks last with us Tom\'s talking.

00:29:06.430 --> 00:29:09.229
Chinese New Year.

00:29:09.230 --> 00:29:13.564
Asian country is like deadly boring

00:29:13.565 --> 00:29:18.679
Because there\'s no news even if
there\'s an international crisis.

00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:20.944
There\'s no news because things shut down.

00:29:20.945 --> 00:29:26.914
And coming over the wire
was some kind of story

00:29:26.915 --> 00:29:33.409
about water and dogs and Chinese
New Year and the lunar Moon.

00:29:33.410 --> 00:29:35.970
And I can\'t even remember.

00:29:36.520 --> 00:29:39.784
We were feeling silly because we\'re bored.

00:29:39.785 --> 00:29:42.334
It was the middle of the night at three AM.

00:29:42.335 --> 00:29:50.335
So we wrote this sort of like silly news
story about the nature of Chinese New Year.

00:29:50.540 --> 00:29:52.669
And it was sort of we presented
at this news and it was

00:29:52.670 --> 00:29:56.310
sort of our little show news report

00:29:56.320 --> 00:30:04.140
cross the other side of the world\'s press
marker picked it up on a beach in Africa.

00:30:07.600 --> 00:30:11.119
I found my dogs pretty nervous tonight.

00:30:11.120 --> 00:30:12.679
You\'re playing with the C\'s.

00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:14.884
I\'d never seen them before.

00:30:14.885 --> 00:30:19.024
Listening to radio Hong
Kong later on I understood.

00:30:19.025 --> 00:30:22.009
Today was the first day of
the Lunar New Year and for

00:30:22.010 --> 00:30:26.850
the first time in 60 years the
sign of the Dog sign of water

00:30:40.330 --> 00:30:43.489
I had been an assistant once on a couple of

00:30:43.490 --> 00:30:46.684
documentaries Agnes Varda who
was a very close friend of his.

00:30:46.685 --> 00:30:49.099
And they also worked
with Gadara who he knew.

00:30:49.100 --> 00:30:53.419
So through Godard Agnes Varda I
think that\'s how he got my number.

00:30:53.420 --> 00:30:58.969
We had known of each other through many
common friends and common involvements.

00:30:58.970 --> 00:31:02.119
I was involved with a lot of
left-wing film movements in

00:31:02.120 --> 00:31:06.990
the sixties I\'m showing films and I always
showed his films in my movie theaters.

00:31:08.380 --> 00:31:10.609
It was an odd day.

00:31:10.610 --> 00:31:13.144
I was watching what\'s called an English.

00:31:13.145 --> 00:31:15.019
I think grin without a cat.

00:31:15.020 --> 00:31:16.519
A cat without a grin.

00:31:16.520 --> 00:31:17.749
I always get it mistaken.

00:31:17.750 --> 00:31:20.344
But the phone delay or a ruse

00:31:20.345 --> 00:31:25.530
And that\'s a film about the history of
politics in the sixties and seventies.

00:31:47.800 --> 00:31:53.479
Not one demonstrated data that he was
watching the last day of the fifth Republic.

00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:57.330
In fact this was the last day of the month.

00:32:03.490 --> 00:32:07.549
One year later Julius position through

00:32:07.550 --> 00:32:11.569
the same streets still reading from
the shape of the last election.

00:32:11.570 --> 00:32:13.789
Four years later and almost as

00:32:13.790 --> 00:32:19.039
unexpectedly and lift his coalition
with game music afterwards.

00:32:19.040 --> 00:32:21.780
But nothing would be the same.

00:32:22.540 --> 00:32:25.560
Nothing would be the same.

00:32:27.040 --> 00:32:30.709
When I took a break from watching his film

00:32:30.710 --> 00:32:33.589
to go into the cafe and he
was sitting in the corner

00:32:33.590 --> 00:32:36.379
there and he was the only person
in this cafe beautiful at

00:32:36.380 --> 00:32:40.334
all understated and
minimalist european cafe.

00:32:40.335 --> 00:32:44.769
Immediately my heart started
beating really fast as completely

00:32:44.770 --> 00:32:49.359
scared and I knew it was him
and it\'s just very clear.

00:32:49.360 --> 00:32:53.394
So I got up my courage
and went over to him and

00:32:53.395 --> 00:33:01.340
said My pretty rusty French or
you Chris Marker and he said yes

00:33:33.010 --> 00:33:40.714
when we first met at the Chateau
Marmont he\'s a very impressive figure.

00:33:40.715 --> 00:33:48.364
He\'s tall and it looks looks
a lot like Henry Miller.

00:33:48.365 --> 00:33:53.809
I was staying heard the prayer Claire
at this place called Arts Services.

00:33:53.810 --> 00:33:57.019
And he said he\'d come in and join me there.

00:33:57.020 --> 00:34:01.324
And he drove up in a Jeep and jumped out
of a jeep and that was such a nice image.

00:34:01.325 --> 00:34:05.659
I can\'t remember anything else except the
shape of the jeep and the shape of this man

00:34:05.660 --> 00:34:10.189
Coming out of the jeep and then
dropping off really struck me as very

00:34:10.190 --> 00:34:14.959
charismatic understated but very
charismatic person yet a watch.

00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:22.729
And I remember very clearly which seemed like
a kind of a time travel device on his rest.

00:34:22.730 --> 00:34:23.989
It didn\'t look like a normal launch.

00:34:23.990 --> 00:34:28.159
It looks had an enclosure
a metal cap on it.

00:34:28.160 --> 00:34:33.330
And you know I remember my
imagination going going off of that

00:35:02.590 --> 00:35:06.799
He told us a wonderful
story about Lij take.

00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:09.859
I think he said it was the Berlin Film
Festival but I may have that wrong.

00:35:09.860 --> 00:35:17.059
He said that I guess he\'d had a 35%
of it and so on and whatever it

00:35:17.060 --> 00:35:20.554
happened was must be on the days of
ten-minute Rails or something but

00:35:20.555 --> 00:35:25.324
the the projectionist at the
festival Shonda rails out of order.

00:35:25.325 --> 00:35:29.929
So when Chris won the prize gave
the price to the projectionist

00:35:29.930 --> 00:35:36.949
I felt that he got it for her but every
big sauropods wonderful it very pressed.

00:35:36.950 --> 00:35:41.269
He asked me to help him when
he was doing his legacy.

00:35:41.270 --> 00:35:45.949
And I thought I thought that if he
needed a good camera person here

00:35:45.950 --> 00:35:48.169
that having a Japanese-American woman would

00:35:48.170 --> 00:35:51.829
be a kind of a dream for him
given his interest in Japan.

00:35:51.830 --> 00:35:56.269
And so they found a young
filmmaker named Mimico Mori to

00:35:56.270 --> 00:36:02.509
help him here and shooting that sequence
in the Greek theater wasn\'t it yeah.

00:36:02.510 --> 00:36:08.280
And I think that\'s probably that\'s probably
led to the fact that we\'re sitting here today

00:36:12.070 --> 00:36:18.760
You feel like you\'re. Yeah.

00:36:38.470 --> 00:36:40.789
So just down her.

00:36:40.790 --> 00:36:47.689
Thank you. Yes yes.

00:36:47.690 --> 00:36:54.119
And why did you name the
var so my favorite Wow.

00:36:54.120 --> 00:36:57.650
Yes of course.

00:36:57.900 --> 00:37:04.029
When did you last see Chris
Marker when your income here last

00:37:04.030 --> 00:37:12.030
Ren Shi He shooting live it five but
Okinawa after the shooting of living five.

00:37:13.770 --> 00:37:20.499
So five or six years ago

00:37:20.500 --> 00:37:22.809
yeah well do you have anything you want to

00:37:22.810 --> 00:37:26.150
say to him because I\'m
going to show this to him

00:37:49.780 --> 00:37:54.964
Chris came to town I don\'t know why.

00:37:54.965 --> 00:38:00.559
And Tom said Would you like
to have dinner and I said

00:38:00.560 --> 00:38:06.679
sure and I think my wife and I both went
and there was a group of a dozen or so.

00:38:06.680 --> 00:38:08.974
And I believe you were part of it.

00:38:08.975 --> 00:38:15.274
Tom was there certainly was upstairs
that\'s shaping these in the cafe.

00:38:15.275 --> 00:38:17.719
That was the first time.

00:38:17.720 --> 00:38:19.624
I\'d met Chris

00:38:19.625 --> 00:38:23.179
Ever in Dan indeed I don\'t know that.

00:38:23.180 --> 00:38:25.909
I even knew what he looked like
because he\'s the sort of person

00:38:25.910 --> 00:38:28.009
that you don\'t see photographs of him

00:38:28.010 --> 00:38:31.380
very often and I don\'t think
I knew what he looked like.

00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:39.559
And he said I read your
entry in the dictionary

00:38:39.560 --> 00:38:43.069
and thank you so much and
I liked it very much.

00:38:43.070 --> 00:38:45.079
But there\'s one mistake.

00:38:45.080 --> 00:38:49.099
And of course we\'re always
anxious to be told you mistakes.

00:38:49.100 --> 00:38:54.004
I said oh what was that and he said
Well you say that I was born in France.

00:38:54.005 --> 00:38:56.719
I can\'t remember the name
of the place now that I had

00:38:56.720 --> 00:39:02.599
said it\'s been said by it\'s been
used by other reference books to.

00:39:02.600 --> 00:39:04.954
And he said in fact I
was not born in France.

00:39:04.955 --> 00:39:09.180
I was born in lambda tour in Mongolia.

00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:18.049
I think it\'s fascinating that someone
should play with the idea of having

00:39:18.050 --> 00:39:21.559
people somewhere else anywhere else

00:39:21.560 --> 00:39:26.074
because after all in a funny way we
trust people about where we are born.

00:39:26.075 --> 00:39:32.014
We don\'t remember. And we
trust our parents claiming.

00:39:32.015 --> 00:39:35.070
When again we don\'t really.

00:39:35.350 --> 00:39:42.529
It\'s an indication of his feeling of
possibility always undermining everything.

00:39:42.530 --> 00:39:45.889
The less known you were the more

00:39:45.890 --> 00:39:49.579
infinite the possibilities of
what you might be you know.

00:39:49.580 --> 00:39:52.669
And I think he clearly is
one of those people who has

00:39:52.670 --> 00:39:57.979
a profound sense of what it is
to be a citizen of the world in

00:39:57.980 --> 00:40:02.449
traveling you feel with him
always I think that he is

00:40:02.450 --> 00:40:07.819
gathering to himself the attributes
of other parts of the world.

00:40:07.820 --> 00:40:14.404
I mean he\'s awfully good at identifying
what is special in a culture.

00:40:14.405 --> 00:40:18.480
And wishing to have it himself

00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:32.359
I first met Chris When
I was very very young.

00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:40.099
But 1970 I met him in the house of
my neighbor and very good friend of

00:40:40.100 --> 00:40:42.919
my father and then my
friend the Xander vanish

00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:48.589
media Kim who became the main
character of the last Bolshevik.

00:40:48.590 --> 00:40:52.159
Media for three teeth Alexander Ivanovich

00:40:52.160 --> 00:40:56.254
mitigate kinesthesis is a
Russian filmmaker born in 1900.

00:40:56.255 --> 00:41:00.634
Proud fathers carved notches on the furniture
to measure their children\'s growth

00:41:00.635 --> 00:41:04.594
Schools for century carves such
notches on MedEd Qin\'s line.

00:41:04.595 --> 00:41:10.444
He was five and Lenin wrote what has
to be done when he was 17 and he knew

00:41:10.445 --> 00:41:17.329
20 the Civil War 36 the Moscow
trials of 41 World War.

00:41:17.330 --> 00:41:19.969
53 Stalin\'s death.

00:41:19.970 --> 00:41:25.639
And when he himself dies in 1989 it
is on the crest of kind of striker.

00:41:25.640 --> 00:41:29.059
In one of his last interviews
he berated me as usual.

00:41:29.060 --> 00:41:30.784
You lazy bastard.

00:41:30.785 --> 00:41:38.785
Why don\'t you ever write just a few lines
like this the Alexander Ivanovich.

00:41:39.200 --> 00:41:43.459
Now I can write here. There were
too many things to hash out then.

00:41:43.460 --> 00:41:45.349
Now there are too many to say.

00:41:45.350 --> 00:41:49.309
And I will try to write them even though
you\'re not here to listen anymore.

00:41:49.310 --> 00:41:55.140
But I warn you need much more space
than there is between your two fingers

00:42:01.330 --> 00:42:07.920
Sandra when she was at this
time he was in his seventies.

00:42:18.010 --> 00:42:23.659
I was invited by Alexander advantage uh to

00:42:23.660 --> 00:42:28.924
help him with the translation because
Chris didn\'t speak Russian at least

00:42:28.925 --> 00:42:34.594
not maybe he does crash I always had the
suspicion that he has some rational routes.

00:42:34.595 --> 00:42:37.999
And when I asked he\'ll
always is very vague.

00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.054
He doesn\'t answer directly.

00:42:40.055 --> 00:42:43.200
So I\'m not sure he doesn\'t.

00:42:47.950 --> 00:42:53.569
I didn\'t mumbles key in 1990 I think on

00:42:53.570 --> 00:42:59.209
91 he came to Moscow to shoot
some stuff for his film.

00:42:59.210 --> 00:43:01.039
About nibbling at Khin.

00:43:01.040 --> 00:43:04.879
He asked me to help to
shoot in my three fifths.

00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:11.299
K it says old age home
where our old filmmakers

00:43:11.300 --> 00:43:15.289
He\'s act. Two is a very nice place.

00:43:15.290 --> 00:43:19.984
Kinda little resort within
Moscow a beautiful house.

00:43:19.985 --> 00:43:23.839
Where script writers directors filmmakers

00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:28.234
spent some time to prepare
for the future of that.

00:43:28.235 --> 00:43:31.189
And the other part of the house belonged to

00:43:31.190 --> 00:43:36.109
the old people those who outward
or residents of this home.

00:43:36.110 --> 00:43:40.309
And one of these residents who
was also a friend of mine.

00:43:40.310 --> 00:43:47.119
He was at this moment probably in his
nineties name was Yaakov doubt check.

00:43:47.120 --> 00:43:54.004
Yaakov me gouged out channel and he
worked with dignity and introduced him to

00:43:54.005 --> 00:43:58.909
Chris Chris I wanted to be introduced
and he wanted to meet him.

00:43:58.910 --> 00:44:01.549
And we went there.

00:44:01.550 --> 00:44:05.149
Chris had this little high eight camp.

00:44:05.150 --> 00:44:08.359
It was the smallest camera at this moment.

00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:11.464
And they said Chris How can
you work with district of

00:44:11.465 --> 00:44:13.909
nothing do you think you\'ll have

00:44:13.910 --> 00:44:17.794
a good image is has got to warn you
about that. They\'ll have a good image.

00:44:17.795 --> 00:44:21.169
And we came to it to tau.

00:44:21.170 --> 00:44:25.834
And tau channel was very
depressed because he

00:44:25.835 --> 00:44:30.934
couldn\'t live without work human
who was this crazy filmmaker.

00:44:30.935 --> 00:44:35.494
And then Chris somehow
without speaking Russian

00:44:35.495 --> 00:44:41.299
I was speaking rulers enough class
and suddenly he completely melted.

00:44:41.300 --> 00:44:44.989
This little fantastic person.

00:44:44.990 --> 00:44:51.019
He was very smart. And he started
talking and I was amazed how

00:44:51.020 --> 00:44:57.484
Chris may managed to create this
atmosphere before he was a camera man.

00:44:57.485 --> 00:45:02.839
Your friend Yaakov Tolkien took this
photograph and many more were the same age.

00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:04.609
But for one year\'s difference.

00:45:04.610 --> 00:45:06.994
When I came back to Moscow after your death

00:45:06.995 --> 00:45:10.650
sometimes I would listen to
you by listening to him.

00:45:15.850 --> 00:45:23.850
I was the one who was
shooting for the 1924 with

00:45:25.370 --> 00:45:30.199
a little kinda more
camera which was made for

00:45:30.200 --> 00:45:36.334
shooting sport it was only it could run.

00:45:36.335 --> 00:45:43.984
I\'ll tell you how much it was it could run
only 20 seconds of film went is second.

00:45:43.985 --> 00:45:46.564
And with this little camera he came to her.

00:45:46.565 --> 00:45:50.029
When he saw this little one little camera.

00:45:50.030 --> 00:45:54.499
He said you have to work in my crew.

00:45:54.500 --> 00:45:57.559
He was so proud touch on two views.

00:45:57.560 --> 00:45:58.699
One of the first handheld

00:45:58.700 --> 00:46:04.170
The cameras in the twenties that I couldn\'t
resist lending in my own handicap.

00:46:17.680 --> 00:46:22.890
Is last gesture of propaganda
would have been for Sony.

00:46:29.710 --> 00:46:35.494
We operated the festival I like all American
film festivals for the very tiny budget.

00:46:35.495 --> 00:46:38.329
But we have sponsors who gave
us this that and the other

00:46:38.330 --> 00:46:41.089
thing and that year we had a
very nice sponsor who gave us

00:46:41.090 --> 00:46:44.749
A very deductible array of
pastries every morning.

00:46:44.750 --> 00:46:48.829
So filmmakers would come to the hospitality
suite and have orange juice and coffee.

00:46:48.830 --> 00:46:54.694
And there were wonderful French pastries and
costs on all kinds of delightful things.

00:46:54.695 --> 00:46:57.859
And we got to the last day of the festival.

00:46:57.860 --> 00:47:01.294
And either maybe maybe it was a Sunday or

00:47:01.295 --> 00:47:05.104
someone had forgotten but
the pastries weren\'t there.

00:47:05.105 --> 00:47:09.919
And one of our great army of
volunteers had come to the rescue

00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:15.559
and had gone somewhere and gotten
an enormous box of donuts.

00:47:15.560 --> 00:47:23.509
So I walked in and there to my horror
by Shane was Kris with a cup of tea

00:47:23.510 --> 00:47:27.019
the American coffee in one hand
and a doughnut in the other.

00:47:27.020 --> 00:47:30.304
And I said God Chris I\'m just mortified.

00:47:30.305 --> 00:47:32.479
I\'m so sorry I don\'t know
what could have happened.

00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.024
I don\'t know why the pastries are in here.

00:47:34.025 --> 00:47:36.154
And he said no no no don\'t be silly.

00:47:36.155 --> 00:47:37.954
You don\'t notice it for me.

00:47:37.955 --> 00:47:41.434
This donut is what the
Medline was for Proust.

00:47:41.435 --> 00:47:44.239
Because my first donut was when I was in

00:47:44.240 --> 00:47:48.649
the American Army during World War
II and I haven\'t had one since.

00:47:48.650 --> 00:47:51.709
So I want to thank you for
bringing this experience back

00:47:51.710 --> 00:47:59.209
to the story he

00:47:59.210 --> 00:48:05.539
told was that during the second World War
he was put in a unit that was pulled

00:48:05.540 --> 00:48:11.869
Well he was he was in the resistance
ideas and then he was them yeah.

00:48:11.870 --> 00:48:15.859
And then I think he was in the something
cavalry and the liberation of Paris

00:48:15.860 --> 00:48:19.969
he was he was in the
American Union somehow.

00:48:19.970 --> 00:48:23.119
I think he was something of a
maverick and I think that he went

00:48:23.120 --> 00:48:26.644
into Berlin with this American unit did me.

00:48:26.645 --> 00:48:28.459
I thought it was Paris
and then I don\'t know.

00:48:28.460 --> 00:48:30.244
I can\'t remember anymore.

00:48:30.245 --> 00:48:32.959
But I can\'t imagine Chris.

00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:37.849
So loading a colonel but
I can imagine the kernel

00:48:37.850 --> 00:48:45.850
saluting grass. You route

00:48:46.895 --> 00:48:50.374
And this ending of sentry is bleak.

00:48:50.375 --> 00:48:53.074
Yet it has it\'s pleasant surprises.

00:48:53.075 --> 00:48:58.339
Suppose that five years ago someone
announced a bloodbath in 1994 with

00:48:58.340 --> 00:49:04.114
the question South Africa or
Yugoslavia who would\'ve wavered.

00:49:04.115 --> 00:49:09.169
So let\'s take history as unpredictable
as it is and cross our fingers.

00:49:09.170 --> 00:49:13.474
I can\'t guarantee that I
will remember 199420 years.

00:49:13.475 --> 00:49:16.609
But if you do it and keep a vague memory of

00:49:16.610 --> 00:49:20.374
my passage on this crazy planet.
I\'ll be there.

00:49:20.375 --> 00:49:22.714
This also sounds like a song.

00:49:22.715 --> 00:49:29.344
In fact it is a song perhaps forgotten
today but very popular in the forties

00:49:29.345 --> 00:49:34.039
I used to play it when I was still
playing piano with a repertory largely

00:49:34.040 --> 00:49:38.614
borrowed from my fellow Gis
in the glorious 29th infantry

00:49:38.615 --> 00:49:41.794
where I learned practically
everything about America

00:49:41.795 --> 00:49:44.929
eight years before I made my
first visit to the land of

00:49:44.930 --> 00:49:51.529
the Braves there\'s a feeling especially
in a society that to be a true genius.

00:49:51.530 --> 00:49:54.319
That means you have to cut yourself off
from the struggles that people have on

00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:57.589
a daily basis there
bread-and-butter sorts of issues.

00:49:57.590 --> 00:50:00.199
And I feel that he rejects that notion as

00:50:00.200 --> 00:50:04.260
a kind of like it\'s that\'s a
bourgeois notion of what art is.

00:50:06.370 --> 00:50:11.089
Art should really be everything
that connects us in the world.

00:50:11.090 --> 00:50:15.619
Means the struggles of people to improve
their living conditions will then that\'s

00:50:15.620 --> 00:50:21.000
that\'s something that\'s worthy
of an artistic meditation

00:50:39.850 --> 00:50:43.129
was 1 when Chris was here.

00:50:43.130 --> 00:50:46.009
It was maybe around the time
that Chris was working a

00:50:46.010 --> 00:50:48.964
little bit on Rumble Fish with Francis

00:50:48.965 --> 00:50:52.219
He spent a little time
and Tulsa Oklahoma doing

00:50:52.220 --> 00:50:55.609
some second unit photography
I\'m Rebecca face for Francis

00:50:55.610 --> 00:50:59.884
and Francis was and George Lucas
for both big admirers of.

00:50:59.885 --> 00:51:03.154
Chris\'s work especially lascia che.

00:51:03.155 --> 00:51:06.379
Chris loved admired their work as well.

00:51:06.380 --> 00:51:11.239
So we all met in San Francisco and
fresh sat on the wall of his house.

00:51:11.240 --> 00:51:13.980
I think it was a crazy cat.

00:51:15.610 --> 00:51:22.309
Original drawing or painting from
teens that Buddhism on the wall.

00:51:22.310 --> 00:51:27.139
And I think Chris you know loving
crazy cabinet comments as he does.

00:51:27.140 --> 00:51:30.949
So the Francis You know I\'ve
been in places where there are

00:51:30.950 --> 00:51:32.839
The castles and Matisse\'s but to

00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:37.440
me what do you have on the wall here
as even more precious and special.

00:51:42.700 --> 00:51:48.979
And fetishes went up to it picked it up
and said the tours you have to have this.

00:51:48.980 --> 00:51:53.074
And Chris Kraft said no I can\'t take
it George Lucas gave it to you.

00:51:53.075 --> 00:51:57.589
So no no no you have to have this someone
who loves that appreciates the so much.

00:51:57.590 --> 00:52:00.859
You have to have it in France
is foisted on him and we

00:52:00.860 --> 00:52:04.804
packed it up and Chris has a known Paris.

00:52:04.805 --> 00:52:12.805
One of his most treasured
possessions I believe in 19

00:52:13.505 --> 00:52:16.489
Ninety five on guessing there was

00:52:16.490 --> 00:52:22.039
the restored print of vertigo which
showed in San Francisco at the Castro.

00:52:22.040 --> 00:52:25.984
And I don\'t know why but we had
an extra airline ticket leftover.

00:52:25.985 --> 00:52:28.924
And I invited Chris to
come to the screening.

00:52:28.925 --> 00:52:32.539
And at the last minute he couldn\'t come.

00:52:32.540 --> 00:52:34.894
But Kim Novak came.

00:52:34.895 --> 00:52:40.399
And while we were waiting backstage I said
Do you know the work of a filmmaker named

00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:44.449
Chris Marker and I prepare it I bought

00:52:44.450 --> 00:52:50.299
a cassette of sensor like sausage I guess I
have to pronounce it here to give to her.

00:52:50.300 --> 00:52:52.864
And she thanked me profusely.

00:52:52.865 --> 00:52:55.860
And then I had a

00:52:56.290 --> 00:53:01.369
publicity photograph of her which
I asked her to inscribe to Chris.

00:53:01.370 --> 00:53:03.949
So she dedicated this photo to

00:53:03.950 --> 00:53:08.520
Chris Marker looking forward
to seeing your film Kim Novak.

00:53:09.220 --> 00:53:12.049
And that night must have
been about midnight.

00:53:12.050 --> 00:53:13.549
I went back to my office.

00:53:13.550 --> 00:53:18.799
And I knew Chris would probably adore
this that I didn\'t want him to wait.

00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:24.544
So I made a photocopy of the
photo and I faxed that the him.

00:53:24.545 --> 00:53:27.214
And I think it was ten minutes later.

00:53:27.215 --> 00:53:33.304
And other words about one o\'clock in the
morning that my fax machine spat out.

00:53:33.305 --> 00:53:38.144
A cartoon of Guillaume the cat

00:53:38.145 --> 00:53:42.819
Holding up the photograph if Kim Novak with

00:53:42.820 --> 00:53:47.994
horse-drawn all around and
off-screen with the cartoon bubble.

00:53:47.995 --> 00:53:53.690
The voice of someone obviously crusade
Jiang Jiang give that photo back off what.

00:54:06.660 --> 00:54:09.984
He had the beautiful Kim.

00:54:09.985 --> 00:54:12.429
He didn\'t know whether he has now.

00:54:12.430 --> 00:54:20.430
But when he was filming me for the left
bullshit and he came to his regret

00:54:20.955 --> 00:54:26.764
A huge cat was walking around and
these kids seemed to be the king.

00:54:26.765 --> 00:54:30.750
Everything was you know
kind of for the cat.

00:54:39.940 --> 00:54:43.429
I started talking and the very first.

00:54:43.430 --> 00:54:47.719
Second when I start with
the top do you jumped on

00:54:47.720 --> 00:54:53.059
my lap and he occupied on
my lap and I love cats too.

00:54:53.060 --> 00:54:58.834
So I started to progress the cat and
I was talking and caressing the cat.

00:54:58.835 --> 00:55:02.614
And after the first
question Gibeon probably

00:55:02.615 --> 00:55:10.615
Tired of me and she proudly brought
up and jump off unless he disappear.

00:55:11.495 --> 00:55:16.309
And I felt very bad because
it\'s nice to have him here.

00:55:16.310 --> 00:55:24.310
And when Chris asked me a question which
happened to be the last one suddenly came back.

00:55:26.075 --> 00:55:31.714
Got on my lap and looked at me and
they again started to caress him.

00:55:31.715 --> 00:55:36.589
How did he feel what kind of
a language has eloped with

00:55:36.590 --> 00:55:39.469
Chris Item No but he
definitely came because he

00:55:39.470 --> 00:55:43.530
knew to the last question
and he has to be there

00:55:45.190 --> 00:55:49.129
Chris has little haiku video short of

00:55:49.130 --> 00:55:52.309
IO if you like you should
try to get that in the film

00:55:52.310 --> 00:55:56.809
you know you just have to send it to

00:55:56.810 --> 00:56:02.014
your chris makes Chris besides the films
that are listed that Chris makes.

00:56:02.015 --> 00:56:04.339
I mean he\'s done.

00:56:04.340 --> 00:56:10.564
He makes many many little
almost private films on

00:56:10.565 --> 00:56:16.699
the computer and video and digital video
whatever little shorts and things that aren\'t

00:56:16.700 --> 00:56:24.000
really to be shown the doesn\'t show publicly
they\'re like gifts for friends almost

00:56:46.410 --> 00:56:53.379
Maybe a cat is sort of like a filmmaker
kind of observant aware quiet and stuff

00:56:53.380 --> 00:57:00.680
like and soft and support
moving entering and exiting.

00:57:05.700 --> 00:57:10.154
And then a couple of months later I called.

00:57:10.155 --> 00:57:13.039
And Chris was completely devastated.

00:57:13.040 --> 00:57:16.654
They sell Chris what what
happened where you saw upset.

00:57:16.655 --> 00:57:19.200
He said you young died

00:58:01.300 --> 00:58:07.504
He had shown a number of films in the San
Francisco Film Festival up to that point.

00:58:07.505 --> 00:58:10.849
And my first season there
in 1983 was the I think

00:58:10.850 --> 00:58:14.884
the first American screening of SASA layer
which has gone on to become a classic.

00:58:14.885 --> 00:58:17.299
And he came several times afterward.

00:58:17.300 --> 00:58:24.349
I remember he came for the film that you shot
Amoco the owls legacy and the early 990s.

00:58:24.350 --> 00:58:27.619
And we all knew this is Chris Marker.

00:58:27.620 --> 00:58:30.349
He doesn\'t permit photographs.

00:58:30.350 --> 00:58:31.609
He doesn\'t like to appear in public.

00:58:31.610 --> 00:58:33.859
So we didn\'t we were so happy. He was there

00:58:33.860 --> 00:58:37.309
We didn\'t even announce to
anyone that he was there.

00:58:37.310 --> 00:58:42.739
And he came back I think it was three
years later for his portrait of

00:58:42.740 --> 00:58:45.319
my vet gain which is called
the last Bolshevik and

00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:48.289
English are low tone boat
Alexandra in French.

00:58:48.290 --> 00:58:52.399
And I think it was at that time that he

00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:58.009
agreed for the first screening to be sitting
in the cafe of the cinema where the film

00:58:58.010 --> 00:59:00.919
was showing in order to take questions from

00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:03.919
people afterward and it seemed
like a big jump that we were able

00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:06.739
to tell people Chris
Marker is actually here

00:59:06.740 --> 00:59:09.619
in the theatre and he\'ll be
sitting outside and he can

00:59:09.620 --> 00:59:16.279
take quite ill be happy to take
questions afterwards. And I

00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:21.124
member whether it was that
same visit or another one.

00:59:21.125 --> 00:59:25.279
Maybe it was the second screening of
last Bolshevik. The lights came up.

00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:28.669
And suddenly Chris indicated

00:59:28.670 --> 00:59:31.729
he was there and he indicated he
want to go to the microphone.

00:59:31.730 --> 00:59:35.644
So he came to the microphone
in front of the audience.

00:59:35.645 --> 00:59:40.234
And I said ladies and gentleman says Chris
Marker Does anyone have any questions

00:59:40.235 --> 00:59:45.364
and a hand went up in the back and someone
said I\'ve studied your work for years.

00:59:45.365 --> 00:59:48.649
I\'ve always been told that
you never appear in public.

00:59:48.650 --> 00:59:51.810
How is it possible that you\'re here

00:59:52.060 --> 00:59:59.359
and Chris waited for a moment and he said
Well I believe in what these people do

00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:04.099
And that is I say was to me the
biggest compliment anyone\'s ever

01:00:04.100 --> 01:00:09.030
paid me or my staff in 20 years
of doing a film festival.

01:00:14.170 --> 01:00:18.364
I wanted to film please pay much very much.

01:00:18.365 --> 01:00:24.409
But you know I didn\'t know in the beginning
that he doesn\'t like to be. I didn\'t know.

01:00:24.410 --> 01:00:30.319
But once I lived with a
friend of mine who was

01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:38.164
his producer she made the dinner and
Chris came there and had my super VHS.

01:00:38.165 --> 01:00:41.014
And so of course I wanted to fail him

01:00:41.015 --> 01:00:46.459
So I walked in with a camera which
was already switched on and

01:00:46.460 --> 01:00:52.594
suddenly Krispy Kreme that me stop stop.

01:00:52.595 --> 01:00:57.394
Maybe not so nastily as Acres
cream now but stopping.

01:00:57.395 --> 01:01:02.974
And of course I immediately stopped it
but I had at least 2030 seconds on tape.

01:01:02.975 --> 01:01:08.419
I said why don\'t you know
that they don\'t want to be

01:01:08.420 --> 01:01:13.294
film I said Chris I apologize I don\'t know.

01:01:13.295 --> 01:01:16.804
I really didn\'t know but I
wouldn\'t have never done it

01:01:16.805 --> 01:01:20.944
because I respect him too much you
know to to cheat on him never.

01:01:20.945 --> 01:01:22.894
So I switched the dog.

01:01:22.895 --> 01:01:29.449
Why and she told me something I
cannot quite remember what it was but

01:01:29.450 --> 01:01:36.514
something that you know if he was he\'s
found he\'s Saul dies or something.

01:01:36.515 --> 01:01:42.274
I don\'t know but I had such embed
feeling that I filmed him.

01:01:42.275 --> 01:01:47.119
So I didn\'t even look at what I found.

01:01:47.120 --> 01:01:49.144
I didn\'t erase.

01:01:49.145 --> 01:01:53.314
And they continued to shoot on the state.

01:01:53.315 --> 01:01:57.214
And then it several years boss.

01:01:57.215 --> 01:02:01.939
And that was going through the tape
and I found that was written there.

01:02:01.940 --> 01:02:04.714
I knew what I was shooting later

01:02:04.715 --> 01:02:09.319
Be there. And you know there was

01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:15.709
no there was no Chris is a mystery for me.

01:02:15.710 --> 01:02:23.449
Where is Chris here at the cinema
tech Francaise in Paris there

01:02:23.450 --> 01:02:28.369
are four or five large
displays of photographs of

01:02:28.370 --> 01:02:34.339
guests at the cinema tech throughout
its tortured 50-year history.

01:02:34.340 --> 01:02:39.229
And over in the margin of one
of these enormous montages

01:02:39.230 --> 01:02:45.664
You see a head without features.

01:02:45.665 --> 01:02:51.079
Everyone believes that that is the
photograph that someone took of

01:02:51.080 --> 01:02:57.469
Chris Marker at a screening which he
somehow of course contrive to erase.

01:02:57.470 --> 01:03:02.370
But you can tell that that head
could only belong to cause mark.

01:03:07.600 --> 01:03:15.600
It calculated move Dan and Dan
enough that I pick them at random.

01:03:16.535 --> 01:03:21.810
I didn\'t even think that someday they
would steal cash like into a movie

01:03:46.390 --> 01:03:50.449
At that moment they were just
floodings that converting

01:03:50.450 --> 01:03:55.024
ones in how we didn\'t need
converting signs on these days.

01:03:55.025 --> 01:04:02.550
So somebody at night was risking his Nate
Just to add a smile floating over the city.

01:04:13.750 --> 01:04:16.999
Maybe he has masterpieces in memory.

01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:20.434
Some people know about
today but I think that in

01:04:20.435 --> 01:04:24.559
20-30 years if you\'re on the back
and say well you know the kind of

01:04:24.560 --> 01:04:28.354
new art of the 21st century

01:04:28.355 --> 01:04:35.340
in visual media probably began
with Chris Marker and a memory.

01:04:35.650 --> 01:04:42.270
Nanotechnology is that computers products
in a freer way than anyone else.

01:04:44.350 --> 01:04:50.880
In CD rom and it\'s like being inside Chris\'s
brain for as long as you want to be there

01:05:38.710 --> 01:05:44.059
In the mid nineties it became
increasingly obvious that markers

01:05:44.060 --> 01:05:48.994
particular style of clustering
material around interrelated nodes.

01:05:48.995 --> 01:05:53.839
For similarities to the bom
structure of the world wide web.

01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:57.138
Given the dynamic nature of its structure

01:05:57.139 --> 01:06:01.159
there are an awful lot of
parallels and analogies.

01:06:01.160 --> 01:06:06.529
Markers concepts of memory and
history rewriting themselves or

01:06:06.530 --> 01:06:12.124
forgetting being the lining of remembering
might be more relevant for this structure.

01:06:12.125 --> 01:06:14.119
Then all technical concepts of

01:06:14.120 --> 01:06:19.669
memory indexing and archiving that
can be found in computer science.

01:06:19.670 --> 01:06:25.129
For example the question
is it a documentary an

01:06:25.130 --> 01:06:31.050
art film or a film essay stems
from this construction principle.

01:06:31.180 --> 01:06:37.219
You would really have to be from outer
time to plan such a film 20 years

01:06:37.220 --> 01:06:43.144
in advance and only market himself could
convince me that he actually did. So

01:06:43.145 --> 01:06:51.060
Instead he found an aesthetic form for the
art of making sense of growing older.

01:07:00.670 --> 01:07:05.419
In my opinion is one of loss of

01:07:05.420 --> 01:07:11.494
tremendous loss of something that isn\'t their
wallets stating the obvious I suppose.

01:07:11.495 --> 01:07:16.999
So how do you deal with something that
isn\'t there because it isn\'t there anymore

01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:23.044
but still is there because
it\'s hard being nonexistent.

01:07:23.045 --> 01:07:25.594
So that\'s why I\'m saying it\'s a loss.

01:07:25.595 --> 01:07:31.320
And if you experienced loss
yourself you can relate

01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:56.629
me. I will spend my life trying
to understand the function of

01:07:56.630 --> 01:08:02.149
remembering which is not the opposite
of forgetting but rather it\'s lining.

01:08:02.150 --> 01:08:04.339
You do not remember.

01:08:04.340 --> 01:08:07.650
The rewrite memory matches history.

01:08:07.950 --> 01:08:10.280
How can

01:08:45.180 --> 01:08:46.569
you wrote

01:08:46.570 --> 01:08:50.938
about sound silly I found a small anonymous

01:08:50.939 --> 01:08:56.659
Published in a program in Tokyo that said
quote soon the voyage will be adding

01:08:56.660 --> 01:09:03.994
and it\'s only then that we will know if the
juxtaposition of images makes any sense.

01:09:03.995 --> 01:09:10.189
We will understand that we\'ve prayed with
film as it one must on a pilgrimage.

01:09:10.190 --> 01:09:16.699
Each time we have been in the presence of death
and the cat cemetery standing in front of

01:09:16.700 --> 01:09:20.029
the dead giraffe with Akami
causes at the moment of

01:09:20.030 --> 01:09:25.890
take-off in front of the guerillas
killed in the war for independence.

01:09:26.980 --> 01:09:32.850
The foolhardy experiment to look
into the future ends in death

01:09:33.400 --> 01:09:40.909
By treating the same subject 20 years
later markers overcome death by prayer

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and written by someone you don\'t know who
knows nothing about the film\'s came to be.

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You feel a certain emotion.

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Something has happened.

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Right.