Inquiring Nuns - Part II
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Two young nuns explore Chicago, from a supermarket to the Art Institute and in front of churches on Sunday, confronting people with the crucial question, "Are you happy?" They meet a lonely girl, a happy mother, another nun, lovers, hippie musicians, a lady sociologist, a professor, and even actor Stepin Fetchit. The answers they get range in sincerity and depth: "Happiness is the absence of fear," "Avoiding people," "Raspberries," "Joy in knowing Christ." The humor and sadness of these honest encounters lift the film beyond its interview format to a serious and moving inquiry into the concerns of contemporary man, and also into the circumstances in which men will actually express their concerns.
"In this fascinating 1968 documentary, one of the earliest by Kartemquin Films, two outgoing Catholic nuns, Sister Marie Arne and Sister Mary Campion, walk around Chicago asking people if they're happy. The answers they get are reasoned, spiritual, sometimes philosophical, and, in one case, frankly sexual, but a recurring motif is hope that the Vietnam war will end soon. The sisters' warmth and interest are reciprocated by their subjects, most of whom show concern for others and little regard for their moment in the spotlight." —Andrea Gronvall, The Chicago Reader
"My favorite Kartemquin film... an engaging and enlightening film... sincere, articulate, and filled with insights into the era's concerns and worries. While the nuns appear to be onscreen "personalities," which is not a cinema verite characteristic, their simple, innocent approach to the interviews make them more like the film's subject than it's crew." —Susan Doll, Facets Features
"Delightful food for thought" —All Movie Guide
"...Inquiring Nuns is the closest thing to a ... pure ... documentary that I have ever seen." —William Routt, Film Quarterly
"Guilessly provocative" —Terry Catchpole, Entertainment Weekly "Inquiring Nuns is handled with such surpassing understanding that it becomes a quite profound and moving experience...a marvelous revelation of our time and ourselves." —Richard Christiansen, Chicago Daily News
"A profound and moving experience for the viewer... we have a chance to meet people talking honestly and openly about themselves... a marvelous revelation of our time and ourselves." —Chicago Tribune
"Quinn and Temaner are filmmakers and 'inquiring reporters' with great insight, and a lot to tell us about ourselves." — Roger Ebert, Chicago Sun-Times, 1968
"A lovely, weirdly potent time capsule... a single, polyphonic ode to late '67 Chicago and what was on the mind of its collective citizenry." — Michael Phillips, Chicago Tribune, 2016
Citation
Main credits
Quinn, Gordon (Director)
Quinn, Gordon (Cinematographer)
Quinn, Gordon (Film editor)
Temaner, Gerald (Director)
Westling, Kathleen (Interviewer)
Rock, Catherine (Interviewer)
Glass, Philip (Composer)
Other credits
Camera, Gordon Quinn; editor, Gordon Quinn; music, Philip Glass; consultant, Ronald Holloway.
Distributor subjects
Philosophy; Critical Thinking; History; Film History; Religion and Spirituality; Documentaries; U.S. History; CatholicismKeywords
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[music]
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Good afternoon, sir. Could we stop you to ask you a question?
What’s the question? Are you happy? I’m very happy.
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What makes you happy? Everything around.
Mm-hmm. Do you think that’s what happiness is
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being aware of the nice things around? Oh, sure.
Do you think everybody is as happy as you are?
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No, I’m sure they’re not. Oil
conditions, poverty, the ration.
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Do these touch any of, any way touch your
life at all, that’s why you’re happy?
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Well, I don’t think I
have those conditions.
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So freedom… Nice family,
nice wife, nice children.
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Don’t you think there are people though with…
with those conditions that are happy. Oh, sure.
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They… I’m sure their conditions aren’t the
same as mine and you seem to be happy.
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Yes, I am. Yes, I am too.
Of course your life too…
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your religion and this makes you happy.
I’m sure everybody couldn’t do it.
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Do you… Do you feel you have to
devote your life to something to…
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to make you happy? Family. Family.
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Dedication I think can make one happy. Oh,
yes, definitely. I’m sure you think that too.
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Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
You are welcome.
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Where my stomach bees. I’ll be there
when I’m happy. You feel happiness?
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And could you tell us what seems to make you
feel that happiness? I don’t know exactly
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(inaudible) in a way that you see me. If
we came along we could never find you sad.
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Uh-huh. Never. What seems
to make you so happy?
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Everything we may and somebody really
making me… I just… I try to avoid them.
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Do you think avoiding people helps in your
occupation, can you really do that? Yes, we are.
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(inaudible)whole lot, keep you out of
trouble. But people help make you happy,
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do you think sometimes? Sometimes they
will and then sometimes they won’t.
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So… So you just find that your key…
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(inaudible) fellow, all day you see him
standing (inaudible) and not saying.
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That’s we have it. What would
make you happier do you think?
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Well, I’ll never think about nothing evil.
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So happy thoughts. If you think something
evil, you get mad and you look…
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And everybody look at you,
you’re still mad. (inaudible)
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You can’t tell them nothing
because I don’t know.
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So, that’s my idea about it.
No, I can’t say I’m too happy.
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I couldn’t say that really. Could
you tell us why or what makes…
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What makes me happy? Mm-hmm.
What would make you happy.
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Well, there are three big things that make a person
happy or responsible for happiness, it’s the sex,
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social life, umm… what’s the other uh…
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your work. And then somehow or other you… we
wind up being thwarted in one degree or another
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and one of these things. I guess, you know, according to the
formula that’s what’s responsible for my own happiness,
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little things make me happy.
Sleeping late, things like that,
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nothing more complicated than that. Are you
looking for something to make you happier. Yes.
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Where… where would you begin your search, let’s say, or
do you just, it’s something that’s just going to happen.
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I look to people. People
are the only variables
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it seems in the whole life environment, and in the
things that are most important are the people,
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nobody means much by themselves.
So I look to other people.
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If someone came up to the street, as we have
done to you and said to you, are you happy?
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How would you answer? I’m happy in my
work, in my personal life, not really.
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Do you seem, you that you can
forget your personal life in work?
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Yes, I enjoy my work very much.
Because it’s uh…
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very rare that you find a person with the education
that I have doing heating in air conditioning work.
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Because I graduated from DePaul
University in 1966, February 10th.
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And now I go out to get my
hands dirty, but I enjoy it.
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I have nine men and my own shop.
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So there’s… there’s personal satisfaction in
it. Was the job your choice or circumstances?
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Circumstances, but now it’s my choice.
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What would make you happier?
What would make me happier?
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Well, to build a business, that’s about it.
Uh… my personal life is
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something that had to be, has
to be rectified by myself
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and it takes a long rationalization
and uh… things have to be done,
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things have to be straightened out.
And I doubt if anyone can
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really achieve total happiness because,
it’s a practical impossibility,
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there’s always has to be something
wrong, because it’s just not life.
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There’s… there’s no such thing as perfect.
Thank you very much,
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it was nice talking this afternoon.
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Well, I guess being married and having a child
and doing something I know is constructive.
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You mean in rearing the child?
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Yeah, you know, through making a house, cooking
and cleansing, which I enjoy seeing people.
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So you’d sort of say it’s being useful?
Yeah, definitely.
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What would make you happier? Oh, I think I’d
be happier if the war in Vietnam were over,
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and that if the people I saw outside
the window were better off.
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Well, we just wanted to say, are you happy.
Very. What makes you happy?
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For one thing, you. And how is that?
People.
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Because we’re sisters or just because
we’re people? No, because you are people.
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I’m a non-Catholic but I say that you were
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born a human being first.
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But by choice you became nuns. What would
make umm… that’s an interesting thought.
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What does it depend on?
Well, if I was (inaudible).
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Uh… What kind of a mood are you in today.
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Happy mood. What do you
think cause the happy mood?
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I don’t know. Just comes and goes hmm?
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What would make you more happy?
Umm… I don’t know.
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You can’t think of anything right now. Can you
think of something that would make you sad?
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Yeah. School.
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You don’t like school? Why not?
Well, I just don’t like it.
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You don’t like the work or
don’t like the teachers?
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Well, I like some of the
teachers but not all.
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What do you think will make
you happier as you get older?
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I guess having kids or something like that.
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Thank you.
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Umm… We’re asking this afternoon
one simple question to people,
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are you happy? Gosh, what a question.
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Uh… Well, in what context?
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Am I professionally happy or am I personally
happy? Let’s take up. Am I religiously happy.
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Do they all go together for you or now… no?
For sort of state of…
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No, they don’t go together. I’m, you know,
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professionally… professionally dissatisfied I could,
because I want to do better, personally I’m…I’m happy,
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I’d like to have… I’d like
to have peace in Vietnam.
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In that sense I’m unhappy.
But, you know, I can’t.
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How can you ask a person to… to throw
everything in to one category?
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Do you think that’s unfair? No, I think it’s
an, I don’t think it’s an unfair question,
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I think it’s an irrelevant question.
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Well, we’re trying to see what makes people happy,
you know, some of those things are the things
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that make you unhappy and success in
one phase would make you happier.
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I don’t know, I don’t want to quibble, I
don’t want to pick nits, but I think it’s…
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it’s very difficult to uh… You know,
when I wake up in the morning
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and read a paper and uh… I
don’t know Senator Hartke
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makes sense on Vietnam then
I, you know, I really,
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I feel the… I feel… Do you feel happier or you
feel pleased, or is there a difference or…
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In that… in that regard what Hartke says,
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it’s an intellectual
happiness and pleasure.
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Is happiness something that you’re
searching for in life? No, no.
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Satisfaction may be, I’ll use that word.
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Happiness is a word like
conformity, like togetherness,
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I shy away from… I try not to… What about
happiness in relation to other people?
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[sil.]
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Oh, again I would use the word pleasure. I
just, you know, happiness has become such a…
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such a societal word. You know, if
people say happiness is a warm puppy,
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happiness is a… is a… is a blanket and
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happiness is far too complicated
subject to… to bandy around.
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So I, you know…
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Keep it as something special not trivial.
Yeah. It’s very important
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and… and consequently very hard to define. Do
you think that’s why you’re not seeking it?
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[sil.]
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Perhaps, perhaps.
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I don’t know, maybe I’ve… Probably I need any
help. What makes you happy? We like raspberries,
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we pick raspberries wild. Oh.
You said, do you sow them.
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No we just (inaudible). I bought some.
Did you? Frozen ones.
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What makes you unhappy?
I knew that was coming.
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I like prettiness (inaudible).
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(inaudible). (inaudible) brutal.
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She… she is right, very rude and very, very
callous to the people she was working with
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and to the customers too, small people,
small mines, that’s the only thing in me.
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Are you interested in people?
I teach, so I have to be.
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I like them, I like people.
Do you think people
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have anything to do with happiness.
Yes, they do affect.
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What kind of a question is that?
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People have some… You can’t
have happiness without people.
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Thank you. We’re just umm…
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working on umm… interviewing people and their reactions
to a question such as this film about people.
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Are you happy? Fairly.
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I’m a sociologist and I
work for an organization
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that’s asked a number of time on national samples this
question, \"Are people happy?\" And I’m glad to report
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that most people say they’re fairly happy.
And you feel
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you would report that same way.
Oh, yeah. Fairly happy or…
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Yeah. I have a cold at the moment so I
can’t do. What would make you more happy?
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If the situation in Vietnam changed,
that disturbs me a great deal.
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And I don’t like what our
government is doing there. So…
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If thought… If you were going to put something as
against happiness, what would you put happiness versus…
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It’s boredomness, one
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and just not having things go well. It’s another…
it depends on the context, But I think that…
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I mean, generally speaking I think, you can have
a unhappy feelings but still be in good shape,
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because you’re reacting to something that anybody
would feel unhappy about, like if you have a
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death of a relative or something. So I
wouldn’t necessarily put unhappiness
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as opposed to the general sort of happiness.
And that you can be generally unhappy
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when you can’t feel those sort of things,
something like that. Why you’re asking?
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[music]
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What make you happier? Being home.
For good, you mean?
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Well, no, just to get home. Where is your home?
In Virginia. Oh, then you’re far away from it.
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Yes, ma’am. What about you? Well, if I was
out of boot camp and I had a regular job.
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I didn’t have to take so many orders.
I mean, you know,
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just to get into the fleet.
To have my own position.
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Right now I’m just a boot camper, but (inaudible).
And just getting off the base is a lot of fun,
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it’s a great thrill. I’ll just
be able to walk around free.
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Okay, thank you very much.
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[sil.] Could we just ask
you, are you happy?
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Yes, of course. What makes you happy?
Living.
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Do you think most people in the
same circumstances are happy?
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In my circumstances? Living, do you think
living is what makes people happy?
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Well, I think it’s probably the one value they
understand that they are certainly, yes. We asked you,
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you… you answered, you know, right away, yeah. Yes,
of course why do you… Why do you feel you did that?
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Because I believed what I said.
Do you think often,
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you know, whether or not you were happy? No, I don’t think
about whether or not I’m happy, it’s a generalized condition.
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Obviously, as all human beings I
have moments of disappointment,
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but if you mean in the generic sense,
in a logical philosophical sense,
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no, I never ask myself that. I take that for
granted. If I didn’t, I may cut my throat.
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I would umm… . Do you ever
strive to become happier?
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Strive to become happier. Consciously? Yes.
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No, no, I don’t. Do you feel everyone is…
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Do you feel the majority of people are happy or unhappy.
Oh, I have no way of telling, I think it’s probably
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connected a great deal to multifaceted
cultural economic factors.
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I should imagine it must be
very hard to be happy if you’re
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economically deprived or socially humiliated.
I suppose a large percentage of the world is,
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but I… who could has an
opinion quantitatively.
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What are some of the uh… economic deprivations that
you think would cause unhappiness, you mentioned…
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That economic deprivation, being without…
being without some subsistence level
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and that varies from culture to culture
depending upon what it is that you see.
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In other words uh… from country to country,
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or culture to culture, there’s a certain level of
expectation and that’s generated by the culture.
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So I don’t think it’s an absolute that
you’d say, takes $40.83 cents a week.
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In some countries, in Yugoslavia, where the
tradition of a peasantry and great deprivation,
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it doesn’t take as much quantitatively to make
people happy as it does say in our country.
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Where the mass media and the
general cultural phenomenon
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make our level of expectations higher. I’m simply
being descriptive, not moralistic about it.
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Thank you very much.
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[sil.]
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Are you happy? I believe I am, yes.
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It’s rather difficult to define.
But I think I am.
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Are you happy, Chris? Yes. At least
today anyway. I’m happy today.
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May be he tears tomorrow which
is probably the story of his…
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So may I ask what this is for?
It’s a taping of,
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you know, what you’re saying that goes with the film, which is kind
of interviewing people and asking them the question, \"Are you happy?\"
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and getting their reaction. I imagine
you get a variety of answers.
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We do, we do. Umm… What would you
say, you know, makes you happy.
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Well, I’m working hard at the
profession that I enjoy.
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I have a family, three small
boys and a loving wife
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and they provide a lot of problems to over
come and that’s part of happiness too.
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I enjoy watching them grow.
I enjoy solving problems.
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I would be a lot happier if we
had more peace in the world,
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more peace at home or justice.
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We don’t seem to have a
lot of that these days.
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But the reasons remain unhappy (inaudible)
those things that do outside of me,
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you know, I’ll tie it to my immediate circle. What
would be some of those reasons, do you think?
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Well, the war in Vietnam
is just a symptom of a…
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of a total problem that cause me a great
deal of concern and it seems very difficult
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to be completely happy or… or
really happy when so much of the
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world is… is plunged in
misery and… and distress.
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Thank you for talking to us.
You’re welcome.
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[sil.]
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Good afternoon. Are you happy?
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Uh… No, I’m miserable.
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What makes you miserable this afternoon?
Is that a truthful answer?
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No, it’s not. Could you answer
it for us honestly? Am I happy?
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Umm… No, I can’t say that I’m happy.
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Why do you qualify it? Well, sometimes
I’m happy and sometimes I’m not.
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This afternoon, in this atmosphere
what feeling does that give you?
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I feel preoccupied. With what?
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Well, people in the pictures.
How about you, you happy? Yes.
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Yes. I think your statement
that when I’m not happy…
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I’m not unhappy is interesting, could you go on
with that a little more. When I’m not happy,
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I’m not… when I’m not happy, I’m not
necessarily unhappy. Well, I’m…
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I’m not usually unhappy but umm… if
happiness is a very positive thing
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and a very strong thing then that doesn’t occur too often and I
would… I would sort of say that real happiness is a kind of joy.
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And that is a kind of a peak moment and
I don’t experience that very often.
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Could you ask this gentleman
here for us, \"Are you happy?\"
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And let him answer in his
own… [non-English narration]
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He answered yes. Would
you ask this gentlemen.
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[non-English narration]
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She said, she’s very happy but she has
everything that life would possibly offer her,
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a good husband and fine children.
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Thank you very much, sir.
Mm-hmm. Thank you.
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Hello, sister. Could we talk to
you for a minute this afternoon?
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Yes. Are you happy. Yes, I’m very happy. If I
wasn’t happy, I wouldn’t be where I am right now
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and that’s in religious life.
Umm… Do you think although
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we certainly would agree with you there.
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What circumstances seem to change happiness for
you? I think it’s when you’re not accepted
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by people of your own age.
When you don’t… when you…
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When there’s certain lack of security due to
immaturity. I think that this stage of my life anyway,
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that’s why I wouldn’t be
happy, because of problems
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or something of that sort, could be
resolved through growing in maturity.
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What do you think causes unhappiness
in people? I think uh…,
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I don’t know. I think a joy
comes in knowing Christ for me
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and I think somebody, if someone’s searching
and they can’t seem to find the answer
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to what they want, they are unhappy. I
think it’s… Unhappiness is a broader thing
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than just uh… problems, small problems
of everyday life, goes beyond that.
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Well, thank you very much, Sister.
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May I ask you a question?
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Certainly. Are you happy?
Am I happy? Very, yes.
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Can we ask you?
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I’m sharing a lot of things with a person
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that I like to be with very
much and that makes me happy.
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Why am I happy?
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I think it’s in a
contentment of many facets,
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it’s a personal understanding
of myself, where I’m going
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and searching for
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the aspects of life that will mature
me and enrich my understanding of it
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and a constant sense of
self involvement I think,
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makes you happy, I think. Self
involvement with people or with…
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With the world? With people? Umm…
communicating with things that make you
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a stronger person and have a wealthier
spiritually, wealthier person.
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I think that’s involvement. It’s not… it’s
not just a physical doing of something,
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it’s… it’s much more involved, you know.
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What would make you unhappy do you think?
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You want a frank answer? Yes.
To be separated from her
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would make me unhappy. It’s biased.
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Oh, a third world war. You know,
our pictures being taken by now.
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Does that bother you, that your pictures being taken? Like
one candid camera. Is this, are we going to appear on TV.
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No. What makes you unhappy?
What a question.
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You see, it’s interesting
because today I’m very happy
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but tomorrow at the same time I
may be unhappy say caused by uh…
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incidents over which I have no
control, you see. I know what I want.
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I didn’t know that always, you see. This is
something which I required a little lately.
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Uh…You know, well, uh…
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Let’s put it this way. I’ve been searching for
something for a long time, I didn’t know what it was,
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I think I found it now. I’m not 100% sure.
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I mean I couldn’t guarantee you that in 10
years from now, I’ll feel the same way,
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but the thing is right now I’m happy
whereas I was say a year ago,
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I wasn’t and I knew…
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Well, umm… happiness comes in degrees.
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I think of, it’s very personal. A lot of
it depends on your family, your childhood.
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I think it’s very important, I can
feel exceptionally happy home
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and it keeps me happy. Most
of the time I have like,
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just moment or an hour or an incident.
But basically,
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umm… the uncontentment is consistent with me and I
contributed to an enormous amount of love in my family.
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And a close understanding
of me as an individual
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and I came from a big family, and I thought
this was a key, very, very important.
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You see, in your case, you
had a child… childhood
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and you can go back to that, you see. I
didn’t have a happy childhood, so that
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I cannot draw memories, I cannot because
I didn’t have one. I was in Europe
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during the war, separated from my parents at
an early age, so that I’ve been on my own uh…
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well, ever since… And just
robbed of that… that youth.
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I was robbed of I think the most precious gift,
the love of parents for children, for a child.
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And I didn’t have that you
see, and that’s… that’s
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a great difference, it makes a great difference I
think. Well, sure, we enjoyed to talking to you.
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Thank you very much. Well, it’s pleasure talking to
you. Thank you. Good bye, sisters. Good bye now.
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[sil.]
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Excuse me, good afternoon. Good afternoon.
Are you happy?
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Well, I could be happier.
What… Why do you say that?
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Well, because I guess everyone
has sense that they don’t,
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you know, you haven’t resolved and I guess
I have some. What would be some things
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that would make you happier? Uh… Being,
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you know, being able to relate to people
and being able to give a lot I find.
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And I find that people don’t always,
you know, it’s wanted or expected,
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you know, they can put up a barrier
and I’m having to kind of, you know,
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find a way to make myself
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sort of fit in, you know. If you’re
comfortable? Someone told me the other day that
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I needed someone that
would want me, you know,
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that would need me and I
think that’s probably true.
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Are you happy? Yes, very happy. Yes,
it’s interesting that you should turn
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the question around to us. Yes,
I’m very happy. You… you said…
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Do you feel it is unusual? Well,
I… I think if you fulfilled,
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I guess you are happy and if you know what
you want, and if you’ve got what you want
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then you should be happy. But… You
feel most people are unhappy?
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I don’t think so, I think there are a
lot of people that are very, you know,
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they have what they need. And I think they accept what
they don’t, suppose what’s occurred in your life but,
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you know, gives you a feeling
of… of having not gotten
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what you really need or what you
really want, not being fulfilled.
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You’re still searching for
this to fulfill your need?
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Yes, I think everybody really
is but some people are content,
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you know. But… Would you say that
you’re not a content person.
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Well, right now I’m not but I am at times,
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I was yesterday. But I found
it goes one day, you have,
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you know, you find more security
than the day before. So it’s… it’s…
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I always try to go through the
next day and I’m just going ahead.
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What type of work do you do? I
am in music, I’m a musician.
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So I play in the orchestra and I’m here now
with an opera company that is touring.
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And we’re playing tonight in
Evans, Illinois. So I am in music,
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you know, and that is a very
uh… introspective field and,
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you know, it’s a very, it is
an art and I find that it is…
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Life is an art and everything is related.
So I find myself
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very involved in trying to make it
all what I would have like it to be.
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Thank you very much. Thank you very much,
I’m glad you asked me, I don’t know why,
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but I appreciate it. Well, thank you.
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[music]
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What I’d like to ask you in this
last session is uh… what you learned
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from your experience? Well, if I may begin,
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I think I learned first of all
that people really are open
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and really do want to have an opportunity to express
themselves if you show an interest to them.
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I think I’d first say that, I learned that
people really are interesting for one,
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and secondly I think it has little bit to do
what Sister Campion said. But I think even on a
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stronger element the idea
of the fact that how much…
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What you really have to do in order to let
someone else really say something to you.
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How much attention you have to give to what they’re saying and
how much thought you have to give to what you’re saying to them.
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And that if you really do that and if they
sense that you are really interested,
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they will umm… say something that
is of value to them. But that…
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but that… If it’s just a commentary, you know, I ask you
this question, you give me the answer. If they sense…
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they don’t sense a real interest there, then they
will never tell you what really has meaning to them.
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And I think I learned that in… in the… Like in the
interviews let’s say, we’d say, didn’t work out,
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it was more of a question of not ever being able
really to communicate for some reason or another.
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Do you have anything else to say or
actually ended with the ceremony?
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Is there anything else you would like to say.
I’d like to say that I’ve enjoyed it very much
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and that it really has been enriching
experience just for myself. Yes, and that
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we’re very grateful to be part of it.
Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Impossible.
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[music]