A Hundred Different Ways
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In 1987, Catherine Russell first stepped on the NYC stage in the play Perfect Crime. Twenty-five years and only four missed performances later, she’s in The Guinness Book of World Records for the most performances by an actor in a single part. But the impact of performing eight times a week, as well as managing the theater and teaching acting classes, demands great personal sacrifices.
Citation
Main credits
Russell, Catherine (interviewee)
McLaughlin, Tim (film producer)
Other credits
Video and photography, Christopher Capozziello, Lauren Hermele, Peter Lundberg; editor, Lauren Hermele; interview camera, Ian Bodenham.
Distributor subjects
Aging, American Studies, Drama & Theater, New York City, Performance Artists, Relationships, Women Studies; Expository; WOKeywords
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Officer, officer!
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Yes Miss Simple?
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I wish to report a case of
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deliberate and malicious sabotage.
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Sabotage? Of what Miss Simple?
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Of my petunias.
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I think I was extremely
dramatic all the time.
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My entire family would sit around and watch
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what frightening little shows I would do.
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Some heinous little song and dance
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and everybody in my family would clap.
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My entire family supported,
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at least initially,
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my attempts to be an actress.
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My parents always taught us
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that it was really important to work hard.
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My father,
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he really wanted me to be the best
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at anything that I did.
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If I would bring home a report card
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and I\'d have three A\'s and a B,
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he\'d be like why not all A\'s?
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I think I was auditioning for Street Car,
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I got called back for Stella.
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Why not Blanche?
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And while I think I probably
fussed at the time,
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I\'m enormously grateful for that.
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He taught me to be kinda fearless.
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I never wanted to live
anywhere but New York.
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It\'s like the center of the universe.
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You can make your own opportunities here.
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It excites me and it energizes me.
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There are certain moments
that I\'ve been on stage,
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you feel like everybody in the audience is
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part of the whole experience.
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They\'re getting it, they\'re responding.
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You\'re on a wave and
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everybody\'s feeling it.
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The advantage of off-Broadway is that
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people can sit in a theater
and almost touch the actors.
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And have a much more
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immediate and hopefully
visceral experience.
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They can sit in the third row.
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What did Mrs. Johanesten tell you?
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Put the gun down Mrs. Brent
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I have sixteen hours a week
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where I get to do what I love to do
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and just use that part of my brain.
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But I have to say, if that’s all I did
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in my week I would lose my mind.
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I\'m an actress,
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a theater owner,
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a professor,
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and a producer.
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My bag of potato chips.
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It’s my dinner.
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I’ve always been someone who did
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twenty things at once.
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I have a theory.
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The laundry theory of life.
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If you have all day to do your laundry,
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it\'s going to take you all day.
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If you\'re busy,
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you\'re up at six,
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you do your laundry you,
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check your email, do everything
while you’re doing your laundry,
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and you\'re out of the house by eight.
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Busy people can do more.
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You want to be actor?
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You think it’s glamorous?
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I never ask anybody who
works at this theater
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to do anything that I haven\'t done, like,
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at least fifty times.
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Unplugging a toilet,
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fixing the roof,
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dealing with somebody who threw up,
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customers who are screaming.
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Yeah, the theater isn’t open yet
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but when it is open, it
will be right down there.
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Ok?
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They\'re have been a lot
of people who worked here
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who were
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damaged in some way
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and they found their way here.
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Somebody told me about
a woman who was good.
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She worked for me for maybe
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six months and then she said I
have to tell you something.
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I spent thirteen years in a mental hospital
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and I just got out about two years ago.
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I\'ve had thirty-three
electric-shock treatments
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and I\'m sure you\'re going
to want to fire me now.
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And I said why, you do a fabulous job.
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There\'s a whole slew of people
like that, that kind of
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didn\'t feel so good about themselves,
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by virtue of the work that they did here,
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started to feel empowered.
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I\'m just the vessel through
which they found that work.
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And maybe because I was willing
to give some of them the chance,
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if that makes sense, so.
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One, two,
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three, four, five, six.
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Hold it,
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two, three, four, five, six.
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Let it out.
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Two, three, four, five, six.
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Stop and bounce.
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Swing your arms.
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I teach acting
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and I make all my students do push-ups.
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I can do 180 marine push-ups,
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which is I think admirable
for a 56-year-old woman.
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See I have good arms for like,
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you can\'t get that,
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you don\'t want that middle
aged lady saggy thing.
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I refuse to watch Hunger Games, I refuse.
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I\'m too freaking old.
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I don’t want to see that, it’s savage.
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You know? I don’t, I have no desire.
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It’s like I didn’t like reading \"1984\"
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like in 1970.
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But, you are right!
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It’s the end of things here.
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You can get rid of some of it,
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but, I think some of it, you seem,
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like, emotionally impotent almost.
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Do you know what I mean,
except that you love her but,
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as Jenna said, you can’t leave your wife.
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The most educated people are in the army.
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I’m very thirsty.
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I tell people it shouldn\'t be agony.
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You are kind of drunk and
happy and he\'s like,
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you are the best I’ve got you stupid bitch.
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Take off my bandage.
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Act like a fucking mother.
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If you\'re throwing up everyday
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before you go on stage, find another job.
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Or figure out why you\'re
throwing up and stop.
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You can only worry so much
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about what people think
about your performance.
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Welcome to this performance
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of Perfect Crime.
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Please take this opportunity
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to turn off all cell phones,
pagers, and beepers.
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Some of the happiest times that
I\'ve spent in my life have been
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on stage doing this play.
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I throw on the wig, put on the costume,
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grab the gun and go.
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I’m going to possess you again.
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Can’t you understand that?
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Do you know what I’ve done for you?
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What about Asher?
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Don’t lie to me!
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I’m going to have Lionel
kill him on Sunday night.
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I love you.
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Don’t betray me.
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No, I won’t.
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Don’t ever leave me.
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No, I won’t.
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Tell me!
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I love you, I swear it.
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Just you.
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The play is called Perfect Crime.
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The central character is a woman
named Margaret Thorne Brent
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who is a very smart psychiatrist
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who does a lot of things
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that are somewhat questionably moral
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for money.
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You shouldn’t be kissing suspects anyway.
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It\'s fun to yell and scream and
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shoot and get slapped and kiss.
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I know you killed them.
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When you have to do kissing scenes,
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you don\'t eat garlic
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because it\'s just rude.
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I struggled with Inspector Asher,
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the gun went off, I
grabbed the baseball bat,
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come to Lakehill road, help me, please!
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The guy that I have to kiss
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was a soap opera star for 22 years.
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He was a huge heart throb
and he\'s the best kisser
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because he\'s totally romantic
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and completely asexual.
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I really do love what I do.
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And,
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I haven\'t had a sick day in 25 years.
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We hit our 25th anniversary,
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our 10,000 performance.
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and we figured out that I\'ve spent
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two and a half years of my life
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saying these lines.
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So I\'ve been able to carve out for myself
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a career, some stability,
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in a field where there
isn\'t much stability.
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I\'ve been able to do something
that I really love to do
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over and over.
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I do try to change the
intention a little bit
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and make it fresh.
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There are a hundred different
ways to say I love you.
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And I\'ve tried them all.
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That\'s the trick, right,
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finding different ways to say it?
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And hopefully people watching
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don\'t ever just feel like
she\'s just phoning it in.
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If I felt like I was phoning
it in I would stop doing it.
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Truly.
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You know?
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I get home at eleven o\'clock at night.
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And I\'m usually out of the house by 7:30.
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The people in my life,
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my family and my boyfriend,
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have a
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complicated relationship to this play.
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They have seen the play maybe once
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in 25 years.
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They appreciate the work
that I\'ve done, but it also
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keeps me from being a constant presence
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in their lives.
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While I do a lot of working,
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I have somebody in my life that
I really love very fiercely.
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As proud as I am of everything
that\'s happening here,
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there\'s something about putting
my arms around him and
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cuddling next to him that,
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that is a really important
part of who I am.
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We have a little saying and
I\'ll go, what time is it?
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And he\'ll go, it\'s the
best time of the day.
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I don\'t know if he\'s my boyfriend
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because he\'s 62
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and he\'s too old to be my boyfriend.
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He\'s like Tony Soprano.
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Talks like, “Howya doin\'
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Pat Rubastelli, I\'m Pat
Rubastelli, hah, yeah.”
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That\'s how he is.
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He\'s very, um, New York.
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She is a pretty dynamic lady.
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And I do love her very much.
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I actually read about her
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on a poster board.
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This girl has done 2,500 shows
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and never took a day off?
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I says, that’s my kind of girl.
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Lo and behold.
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Unfortunately we don\'t have
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the time we\'d like, I\'d like
to have spending with her.
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Because it\'s come home,
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eat something, not much,
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a cracker, a piece of cheese,
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maybe a glass of water, you know.
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And then, out like a light.
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She is a good woman.
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She tries very hard.
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And sometimes
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it amazes me what she can do.
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I don\'t have any children.
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That\'s my one regret,
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that I didn\'t have children.
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I met my true love when I was 40
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and it just wasn\'t going to happen.
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What was good was you
came in with something
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and I think that’s great.
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I have to compensate by
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mothering people who
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needed some more parenting.
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There are people in my life who,
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Oh God, I\'m going to get sad.
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I love like children,
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and so I guess that they felt
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mothered by me.
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This one young woman who I\'ve helped,
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and she sends me a Mother\'s Day card
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and calls me every Mother\'s Day.
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Oh God, I have to stop.
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You\'re like Barbara Walters making me cry.
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The people who I\'ve affected
by loving really fiercely
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and protecting and setting
some sort of example for,
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that, to me, is my legacy.
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There is a point in your life
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when you start to realize
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there\'s a lot more
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important things than
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trying to go out and make a living.
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But, time goes by too fast
when you are in love.
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So I don\'t know if it is a good thing
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to be so much in love.
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Time just goes by too fast.
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It\'s like waking up loving your job.
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Where did the day go?
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What\'s happening?
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Ok, that’s it.
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We done?