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(Waves splashing)

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(Grunting)

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(Waves splashing)

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(Wind whistling)

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(Whale singing on speakers)

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(Whales singing)

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(Singing continues)

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(Whale blowing)

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(Camera clicking)

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(Whale blowing)

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(Seagulls squawking)

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(Ship chugging on speakers)

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(Chugging continues)

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- I can still hear this thing.

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- It's around the corner.
- It's going up Whale Channel.


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I can still hear that thing.

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It's just so fucking loud!

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- And this is just one.
- Just only one.


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(Ship chugging loudly)

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(Chugging continues on speakers)

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- I'm just gonna stop
- the recording.


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(Chugging stops)

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(Sighing)

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- 1992, I was a student
- of a sports university


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- in Cologne in Germany
- at the time.


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- I did a travel
- with my best friend


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- to try to see a whale
- in the wild.


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- When I saw the first whale,
- I just got hooked.


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- Something inside of me
- just decided


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- that I would wrap my life
- around whales,


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- that I would like to help
- learn more about them


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or help to protect them.

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And that's how it went.

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(Seagulls squawking)

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(Calling)

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(Calling)

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(Raven calling)

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(Calling)

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Morning, Nola!

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- There was a humpback
- whale singing...


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- (Whispering): Wow!

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- ...which was the first
- time ever in May.


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- They usually start singing
- in late summer, early fall.


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- Right.

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- And it was just
- so beautiful.


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- Just makes you wonder, you know,
- is this part of a change,


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- you know, with climate change
- and the warmer waters?


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And what does that mean?

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- As I have told people,
- just enjoy while you can.


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- Mm-hmm.
- While you can.


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- Enjoy every moment
- while you can.


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- The outside world
- is moving in fast.


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- And Granny's the
- happiest person


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- to see the price of
- oil going down everyday.


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- (Both chuckling) - That means
- the price of gas stays low too.


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- I never realized that
- oil and our dollars


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- sort of work in sync,
- sync together.


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They sink at the same time.

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- They sink at
- the same time.


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- And the control of gas
- and oil on the Canadian dollar.


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- Yeah.

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- Nothing else has affected
- the Canadian dollar like that.


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- Yeah, exactly.

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- You know, just... Ha!

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- So Granny, with her worldview
- here, it's just...


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But it's just the idea

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- that if there's anything
- that Granny was so proud of


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- is that we had Trudeau visit us
- here in this small community


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and come into my house

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- and that my son-in-law
- was able to take 'em out,


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- out on the plane to see
- the territory of the Gitga'at's.


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- Mm-hmm!

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- And to see how narrow
- this channel is.


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- And so he was able
- to observe that firsthand...


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- Right.
- This, our territory.


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- And it probably was a
- big part of his decision


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- to say there is no room
- for oil tankers


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- in the Great
- Bear Rainforest.


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- That's right,
- that's right.


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She tries hard.

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- Oh! So good
- to see you.


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- Yeah.
- Thank you.


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- Oh yes!

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- I'll come by.
- I'm not sure when, but...


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- Yeah. Or you could just tune
- in to whatever Granny's doing.


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- Yeah, for sure.
- Oh, Marven will know.


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I will, yeah.

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- Marven and Terry Joe
- will tell you.


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- When we got here and we put
- hydrophones in the water,


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- we realized how special
- this place actually is,


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how quiet it is in the water.

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- So then in 2006, all of
- a sudden, there is this news


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- of a potential proposal for oil
- tankers from Kitimat to Asia,


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- and then all of a sudden,
- I realize:


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- Oh my God! This is gonna
- be huge if this is happening.


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(♪ Woman singing in Tsimshian ♪)

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(♪ All chanting in Tsimshian ♪)

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- We really mean "no"

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- to tankers on our coast line,
- in our territory.


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- And you got people
- higher up in government


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- saying that, you know,
- this is what's good for Canada.


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And it's not good for us.

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- You know, as First Nations,
- we've lived here on the coast
- for thousand of years.


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- You've heard one
- of our speakers refer


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to dead land, dead water.

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We don't want that.

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The Enbridge pipeline

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- and the tanker traffic that
- inevitably comes with it...


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- that's what's gonna
- damage our territory.


00:11:54.839 --> 00:11:56.299
- (Woman):
- Who are we?


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- (All): Gitga'at'!

00:11:57.550 --> 00:11:59.260
- Who are we?
- Gitga'at!


00:11:59.260 --> 00:12:00.929
- Who are we?
- Gitga'at!


00:12:00.929 --> 00:12:02.681
- Whose water?
- Gitga'at!


00:12:02.681 --> 00:12:04.432
- Whose land?
- Gitga'at'!


00:12:04.432 --> 00:12:06.559
- Whose territory?
- Gitga'at'!


00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:08.770
(All cheering)

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(Cawing)

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(Whale blowing)

00:14:03.927 --> 00:14:05.804
(Whale blowing)

00:14:08.306 --> 00:14:10.266
(Camera clicking)

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(Whale singing)

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(Whales blowing)

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- That's what's so wonderful
- about land-based whale research,


00:15:10.744 --> 00:15:14.164
- is that you're having
- very limited impact


00:15:14.164 --> 00:15:17.292
on them.

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- And they can make the decision
- to come to you or not.


00:15:23.214 --> 00:15:26.051
- There's no noise
- under the water.


00:15:29.137 --> 00:15:32.515
(Woodpecker pecking in distance)

00:15:32.515 --> 00:15:33.933
(Whale blowing)

00:15:45.862 --> 00:15:47.947
(Whales singing)

00:16:08.385 --> 00:16:10.387
(Singing continues)

00:16:21.189 --> 00:16:23.733
(Seagulls squawking)

00:16:28.029 --> 00:16:30.824
(All chatting, indistinct)

00:16:56.558 --> 00:16:57.684
- Hey, guys!
- You made it!


00:16:57.684 --> 00:16:59.019
- Hi!
- How are you?


00:16:59.019 --> 00:17:00.395
- I'm Julie.
- Nice to meet you.


00:17:00.395 --> 00:17:02.564
- Nice to meet you.
- Hi, how are things?


00:17:02.564 --> 00:17:03.732
- Hey, how are you?

00:17:05.025 --> 00:17:07.402
- Hey! Good to
- see you guys.


00:17:07.402 --> 00:17:09.070
- Hey, Katie!
- How are you?


00:17:09.070 --> 00:17:10.363
- Good, how are you?

00:17:10.363 --> 00:17:12.198
- Good, really good.
- Really good.


00:17:12.198 --> 00:17:14.367
- So, glad you made
- it on here.


00:17:14.367 --> 00:17:15.618
(Interns chuckling)

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I was a little worried.

00:17:17.579 --> 00:17:18.788
But it's all good.

00:17:18.788 --> 00:17:21.333
- So, all this stuff
- is gonna come off?


00:17:21.333 --> 00:17:23.460
- Yes, we're
- waiting for it.


00:17:23.460 --> 00:17:25.420
- Just, yeah,
- identify your bags,


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- and then we
- have 2 boats.


00:17:27.172 --> 00:17:28.089
- OK.

00:17:42.312 --> 00:17:46.316
- My husband was pleased
- with Hermann and Janie


00:17:46.316 --> 00:17:50.570
- wanting to do a study
- in this area


00:17:50.570 --> 00:17:52.322
about the whales.

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- It had been done in Alaska,
- down south in California,


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everywhere but Central BC.

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- So, all right,
- as long as you report to us,


00:18:03.875 --> 00:18:05.794
tell us about them.

00:18:05.794 --> 00:18:08.296
We know that they're special.

00:18:08.296 --> 00:18:14.094
- We know, according to
- our stories, they are special.


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- So, then Hermann came to report
- what he knew about the whales.


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And then he had made a recording

00:18:23.478 --> 00:18:25.730
of their song.

00:18:27.232 --> 00:18:32.529
- So imagine to hear
- the whales sing,


00:18:32.529 --> 00:18:35.490
to hear the click-clicking.

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It's so different.

00:18:38.493 --> 00:18:42.455
- And then Hermann did
- have a hydrophone


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across here somewhere,

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- and you could hear
- the freighter boats,


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- and you just imagine
- what the whales are hearing


00:18:51.214 --> 00:18:53.216
when these freighter boats--

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Now, that's not a tanker.

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- That's the small freighters
- that are moving up and down.


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And you could hear them plain.

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And so my husband would say:

00:19:05.645 --> 00:19:08.606
"Well, that would affect.

00:19:08.606 --> 00:19:12.068
- "All these boats
- would affect the sonar


00:19:12.068 --> 00:19:14.237
of the whales."

00:19:18.199 --> 00:19:22.203
(Seagulls squawking)

00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:34.943
(Birds chirping)

00:20:41.783 --> 00:20:45.787
- Janie and I met down
- in Johnstone Strait


00:20:45.787 --> 00:20:47.539
in 1995, mid '90s.

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- And then a few years still
- working for Orcalab


00:20:50.917 --> 00:20:52.669
as a volunteer,

00:20:52.669 --> 00:20:56.756
- we realized that we wanted to do
- something together research-wise


00:20:56.756 --> 00:21:01.219
- in an area of this coast where
- no research was done prior.


00:21:01.219 --> 00:21:04.931
- And so we approached
- the people of Hartley Bay.


00:21:04.931 --> 00:21:06.599
So, we went to the village,

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- and we tried
- to talk to the chief,


00:21:08.768 --> 00:21:10.812
- who was 84 years old
- at the time.


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His name was Johnny Clifton.

00:21:13.648 --> 00:21:17.944
- And him and his wife,
- they sat down with us.


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- We were describing to him
- what we wanted to do.


00:21:20.947 --> 00:21:23.533
- And he, after 15 minutes
- of listening to us,


00:21:23.533 --> 00:21:24.826
just immediately said:

00:21:24.826 --> 00:21:26.369
"I like what you wanna do."

00:21:28.872 --> 00:21:32.334
- OK! So, this is gonna be
- your home right here.


00:21:32.334 --> 00:21:36.212
- This is where you
- can put your tents.


00:21:36.212 --> 00:21:39.424
- There's a speaker right there,
- so you will be listening to the
- whales at night too.


00:21:39.424 --> 00:21:40.884
It's fairly quiet now.

00:21:40.884 --> 00:21:42.719
- I might just turn
- it up a little bit.


00:21:42.719 --> 00:21:45.055
- But if it's nice
- and quiet, you will hear.


00:21:45.055 --> 00:21:46.556
If whales are calling,

00:21:46.556 --> 00:21:48.516
- you will hear it on
- this speaker for sure.


00:21:48.516 --> 00:21:49.934
- So, let's walk
- to the lab!


00:21:49.934 --> 00:21:51.186
(White noise on speakers)

00:22:03.365 --> 00:22:06.993
- We have 4 hydrophones
- in an area


00:22:06.993 --> 00:22:09.371
- that is a proposed
- tanker route for...


00:22:09.371 --> 00:22:14.376
- It used to be proposed for
- bitumen oil from Alberta.


00:22:14.376 --> 00:22:17.796
- That project is
- dead, fortunately.


00:22:17.796 --> 00:22:21.383
- But there is other
- projects in the making


00:22:21.383 --> 00:22:24.594
- that wanna export
- liquefied natural gas.


00:22:24.594 --> 00:22:28.098
- We want to look at what are the
- ambient noise levels right now,


00:22:28.098 --> 00:22:30.767
- you know, how the whales
- are using this area now,


00:22:30.767 --> 00:22:33.603
- and what if there is
- any change coming.


00:22:33.603 --> 00:22:36.314
- What does that do
- to a whale habitat?


00:22:49.995 --> 00:22:52.580
- I just want to talk a little
- more about this place,


00:22:52.580 --> 00:22:54.833
- that you guys understand
- what's going on,


00:22:54.833 --> 00:22:56.209
- what the changes
- are here.


00:22:56.209 --> 00:22:58.253
- Janie and I built
- this place.


00:22:58.253 --> 00:23:00.755
- We worked together.
- We were married.


00:23:00.755 --> 00:23:03.925
- We worked here for quite
- a long time together.


00:23:03.925 --> 00:23:06.011
- The remoteness
- of this place


00:23:06.011 --> 00:23:09.139
- split our personal
- relationship quite a bit.


00:23:09.139 --> 00:23:12.767
- So, at the end of the day,
- Janie will not be here.


00:23:12.767 --> 00:23:16.479
- It'll be just myself and
- you guys and other people.


00:23:16.479 --> 00:23:20.817
- So, the way that it worked
- the last few years


00:23:20.817 --> 00:23:23.319
- was that Janie was
- basically living here.


00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:25.113
It was her personal space.

00:23:25.113 --> 00:23:26.948
And I was in the house.

00:23:26.948 --> 00:23:30.493
- And then the interns would
- work with her on a daily basis,


00:23:30.493 --> 00:23:32.954
- and she would oversee
- the data collection.


00:23:32.954 --> 00:23:35.457
- So that's all
- gonna be on me.


00:23:35.457 --> 00:23:38.335
- It will be probably
- a little bumpy at the start,


00:23:38.335 --> 00:23:40.253
but just bear with me.

00:23:40.253 --> 00:23:42.380
- You know, it'll take
- a little time,


00:23:42.380 --> 00:23:44.382
- and we will figure
- this all out.


00:23:48.845 --> 00:23:52.599
(Motor running)

00:24:07.906 --> 00:24:10.367
(Motor stops)

00:24:20.585 --> 00:24:23.004
- (Janie): I probably cannot
- look at the ocean


00:24:23.004 --> 00:24:24.798
without looking for a blow.

00:24:24.798 --> 00:24:27.175
It's just...

00:24:31.429 --> 00:24:34.265
- It's just how
- I react to the ocean


00:24:34.265 --> 00:24:37.394
as I look for whales.

00:24:54.744 --> 00:24:58.540
Our arrival into this area

00:24:58.540 --> 00:25:02.377
- coincided with the comeback
- of the humpback whales.


00:25:02.377 --> 00:25:04.254
So we came up to study orca,

00:25:04.254 --> 00:25:07.799
- but my focus definitively
- has gone more towards humpbacks,


00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:11.011
- and Hermann has been
- very faithful to orca.


00:25:17.225 --> 00:25:19.310
(Camera clicking)

00:25:19.310 --> 00:25:22.147
- I just got the feeling
- from that whale,


00:25:22.147 --> 00:25:24.315
- 'cause they're a bit
- in a resting mode,


00:25:24.315 --> 00:25:26.818
- I don't think they're
- appreciating the boat.


00:25:26.818 --> 00:25:28.111
That's my feeling,

00:25:28.111 --> 00:25:29.487
- so I'm gonna do
- just one more up,


00:25:29.487 --> 00:25:30.947
and then I think we should go.

00:26:04.939 --> 00:26:07.400
- Here you go!
- Fabulous!


00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:09.986
- And I also wanted to
- ask you about pamphlets.


00:26:09.986 --> 00:26:12.822
- So, we're doing all this
- research all through here.


00:26:12.822 --> 00:26:15.492
- We have this research centre
- down by Hartley Bay.


00:26:15.492 --> 00:26:17.243
- Right.

00:26:17.243 --> 00:26:19.496
- I have pamphlets that
- actually document this area


00:26:19.496 --> 00:26:21.581
as to where the whales are.

00:26:21.581 --> 00:26:25.043
- I don't know if you wanna
- take a look at it, but...


00:26:25.043 --> 00:26:27.253
- Is that part of the
- same brochures? Yeah!


00:26:27.253 --> 00:26:29.506
- No, it's a little bit...
- Oh, it's different.


00:26:29.506 --> 00:26:31.383
- The one you have
- in there right now


00:26:31.383 --> 00:26:32.926
which is called "Whale Wise"...

00:26:32.926 --> 00:26:34.177
- Right.

00:26:34.177 --> 00:26:35.220
- It's geared towards orca.

00:26:35.220 --> 00:26:37.138
- There's not a lot
- about humpbacks,


00:26:37.138 --> 00:26:38.682
- whereas this is
- all about humpbacks,


00:26:38.682 --> 00:26:40.809
- 'cause they're such
- a different whale.


00:26:40.809 --> 00:26:43.311
- We can put these out if
- you'd like us to display them.


00:26:43.311 --> 00:26:45.355
- If you don't mind,
- that would be great.


00:26:45.355 --> 00:26:47.315
- Not at all.
- Can I give them to you?


00:26:47.315 --> 00:26:48.817
- Or should I just
- put some out there?


00:26:48.817 --> 00:26:50.694
- Give them to me,
- and I'll put them out.


00:26:50.694 --> 00:26:51.986
- OK.

00:26:51.986 --> 00:26:53.738
- Just in case
- you're interested,


00:26:53.738 --> 00:26:55.740
- We're trying just
- to do more outreach,


00:26:55.740 --> 00:26:57.325
talking to people.

00:26:57.325 --> 00:26:59.536
- But it's your stories that
- are most valuable to us,


00:26:59.536 --> 00:27:02.247
- especially if you've been
- doing this for a long time.


00:27:02.247 --> 00:27:03.790
- We'll pass
- the information on.


00:27:03.790 --> 00:27:05.500
- Well, pass the
- information on.


00:27:05.500 --> 00:27:07.335
- Last year was the most
- we ever saw.


00:27:07.335 --> 00:27:09.254
- Really?

00:27:09.254 --> 00:27:12.924
- We sat there for a good
- 20 minutes and watched them,


00:27:12.924 --> 00:27:14.926
and they were all around us.

00:27:14.926 --> 00:27:16.094
- Oh my gosh!

00:27:16.094 --> 00:27:17.804
- And you know that
- bubble-netting?


00:27:17.804 --> 00:27:20.056
- They do it here,
- they do it up in Alaska


00:27:20.056 --> 00:27:22.475
- and maybe as far as Klemtu,
- and then it stops.


00:27:22.475 --> 00:27:24.310
- So they like to
- bubble-net here,


00:27:24.310 --> 00:27:27.105
- but you go down south,
- and they don't bubble-net.


00:27:27.105 --> 00:27:28.440
- So, it's very
- specific to...


00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:30.316
- Different areas.
- Interesting.


00:27:30.316 --> 00:27:31.234
- Yeah, it is!

00:27:35.613 --> 00:27:37.615
(Raven cawing)

00:27:41.036 --> 00:27:43.038
(Birds chirping)

00:27:44.622 --> 00:27:46.291
- Could you say that
- tonight, you think,


00:27:46.291 --> 00:27:49.210
- if there were a
- question period?


00:27:49.210 --> 00:27:51.713
- Oh, if it goes aroundand it's
- in a direction that lends
- itself, yeah.


00:27:51.713 --> 00:27:53.173
- Yeah.

00:27:53.173 --> 00:27:54.591
- We need to build
- that awareness


00:27:54.591 --> 00:27:56.384
- and have them ask
- as a community, yeah.


00:27:56.384 --> 00:27:58.136
- Yeah.
- Sure.


00:27:58.136 --> 00:28:02.057
- There's some fancy boats
- out there that run into things.


00:28:02.057 --> 00:28:05.435
- An American frigate ran into
- a container ship yesterday.


00:28:05.435 --> 00:28:07.645
- Yes!
- The last I heard...


00:28:07.645 --> 00:28:09.230
- It lost 7 sailors.

00:28:09.230 --> 00:28:10.815
- The navy!
- Losing 7 sailors.


00:28:10.815 --> 00:28:12.233
(Laughing)

00:28:12.233 --> 00:28:14.194
- And it just went
- through a fancy upgrade


00:28:14.194 --> 00:28:15.779
- to make it the best
- in the world.


00:28:15.779 --> 00:28:17.072
- Yeah.
- World-class.


00:28:17.072 --> 00:28:18.531
- And it was
- human error,


00:28:18.531 --> 00:28:21.785
- you know, or perception
- of human error,


00:28:21.785 --> 00:28:25.705
- because they had a brand-new
- commander on board.


00:28:25.705 --> 00:28:27.957
- So, well, we have
- human beings


00:28:27.957 --> 00:28:30.669
- running this sophisticated
- equipment, no matter.


00:28:30.669 --> 00:28:33.880
- And this is where we're trying
- to build awareness and interest.


00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:35.715
If people are interested

00:28:35.715 --> 00:28:38.218
- and want these whales
- to be looked after


00:28:38.218 --> 00:28:39.928
and they value them,

00:28:39.928 --> 00:28:43.390
- and if that's what they are,
- what are they gonna ask for?


00:28:43.390 --> 00:28:44.849
And they need to ask.

00:28:44.849 --> 00:28:47.602
- And when Janie comes,
- we'll hear that again.


00:28:47.602 --> 00:28:50.522
- And they're researchers.
- They're scientists.


00:28:50.522 --> 00:28:54.526
- They're not, you know, the local
- environmental group saying:


00:28:54.526 --> 00:28:56.778
- "Well, this is
- what's going on."


00:28:56.778 --> 00:29:00.156
- These are people from outside
- who study these things.


00:29:14.087 --> 00:29:16.172
- So, can I get a...

00:29:16.172 --> 00:29:19.634
- "I'm Janie Wray,
- cofounder of Cetacea Lab."


00:29:19.634 --> 00:29:22.470
- I'm Janie Wray, and I'm
- the cofounder of Cetacea Lab.


00:29:22.470 --> 00:29:26.016
- All right, I'm gonna need to
- just turn that up a little bit.


00:29:26.016 --> 00:29:28.560
- Can you tell me about
- the battles you've had


00:29:28.560 --> 00:29:30.020
- with oil and
- gas companies?


00:29:30.020 --> 00:29:31.730
- Yeah!
- Just in general.


00:29:31.730 --> 00:29:35.984
- So, years ago, there
- was a project called...


00:29:35.984 --> 00:29:39.237
- Well, we refer to it
- as Enbridge.


00:29:39.237 --> 00:29:42.490
- And the proposal was to bring
- oil tanker through here.


00:29:42.490 --> 00:29:44.909
And it's interesting

00:29:44.909 --> 00:29:47.412
- because it had been
- a long time in BC


00:29:47.412 --> 00:29:51.499
- since you had so many different
- organizations come together


00:29:51.499 --> 00:29:53.877
and go: "Absolutely not.

00:29:53.877 --> 00:29:56.254
We do not want oil tankers."

00:29:56.254 --> 00:29:57.839
This was First Nations.

00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:00.300
- Lots of conservation
- organizations


00:30:00.300 --> 00:30:02.927
- just worked together
- and said no.


00:30:02.927 --> 00:30:05.138
- And it was
- a big fight.


00:30:05.138 --> 00:30:07.599
- And the good
- side won. Ha!


00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.685
- In the sense that there is
- no longer a proposal


00:30:10.685 --> 00:30:13.146
- for oil tankers
- to come through here.


00:30:13.146 --> 00:30:15.690
- Now, liquid natural gas
- is a whole other creature.


00:30:15.690 --> 00:30:17.442
So, what happened was,

00:30:17.442 --> 00:30:20.403
- while everyone was putting
- their energy into Enbridge,


00:30:20.403 --> 00:30:22.280
LNG just kind of snuck in there.

00:30:22.280 --> 00:30:24.074
They just kind of slid in.

00:30:24.074 --> 00:30:25.283
They saw the mistakes

00:30:25.283 --> 00:30:27.327
- that people made
- from the oil companies


00:30:27.327 --> 00:30:29.371
- and didn't make
- those same mistakes.


00:30:29.371 --> 00:30:32.082
- They did it really smart.
- They were very smart.


00:30:32.082 --> 00:30:34.292
- And, of course,
- they're not oil, right?


00:30:34.292 --> 00:30:36.961
- So, you know,
- they could sell it a bit easier.


00:30:50.684 --> 00:30:55.730
- You can see some
- "We want LNG Canada" signs here


00:30:55.730 --> 00:30:57.482
in this new neighbourhood.

00:30:57.482 --> 00:31:01.736
- Here in Kitimat, LNG Canada
- is doing its site prep.


00:31:01.736 --> 00:31:03.279
and they've spent, you know,

00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:05.240
- millions and millions
- of dollars,


00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:07.909
- so it appears as if
- it's going ahead.


00:31:07.909 --> 00:31:11.579
- But that company is going
- to make the decision


00:31:11.579 --> 00:31:13.081
at the board level,

00:31:13.081 --> 00:31:15.625
- despite whatever
- the BC government does


00:31:15.625 --> 00:31:18.503
- to bend over backwards
- to invite them here.


00:31:18.503 --> 00:31:21.339
So I don't feel confident

00:31:21.339 --> 00:31:25.260
- in any LNG project
- going forward.


00:31:25.260 --> 00:31:28.930
- And I am certainly
- really concerned


00:31:28.930 --> 00:31:30.765
about the fact

00:31:30.765 --> 00:31:35.437
- that our country isn't
- looking at alternatives,


00:31:35.437 --> 00:31:39.232
- alternative energy and
- taking leadership in the world


00:31:39.232 --> 00:31:43.820
- on developing technologies that
- take us away from fossil fuels.


00:31:43.820 --> 00:31:45.113
- Thank you.
- Yeah!


00:31:45.113 --> 00:31:47.615
- Thank you!
- We had good times, man!


00:31:47.615 --> 00:31:49.075
- Oh yeah! I love you!

00:31:49.075 --> 00:31:50.994
- I'm a physical
- kind of person.


00:31:50.994 --> 00:31:52.162
- I know you are!

00:31:52.162 --> 00:31:54.581
- It'll be a
- small crowd, OK?


00:31:54.581 --> 00:31:56.166
- Yeah, I mean,
- more personal.


00:31:56.166 --> 00:31:57.542
- Yeah.
- Yeah.


00:31:57.542 --> 00:31:59.961
- I'd like to introduce
- Janie Wray.


00:31:59.961 --> 00:32:04.716
- I've been so overwhelmed by her
- own personal passion for whales.


00:32:04.716 --> 00:32:07.552
- And just lately,
- she told me


00:32:07.552 --> 00:32:10.347
- that when she was
- quite a young child,


00:32:10.347 --> 00:32:14.017
- the first time that
- she heard whale music,


00:32:14.017 --> 00:32:18.396
- she dedicated her life
- to working to help whales.


00:32:18.396 --> 00:32:23.068
- And so I really thank you
- for coming, and I wish you well.


00:32:23.068 --> 00:32:24.569
(Audience applauding)

00:32:24.569 --> 00:32:26.112
Welcome!

00:32:26.112 --> 00:32:27.030
- Thank you!

00:32:27.030 --> 00:32:28.239
(Both chuckling)

00:32:28.239 --> 00:32:30.075
- I wish you luck.

00:32:30.075 --> 00:32:33.078
- Well, good evening, everybody,

00:32:33.078 --> 00:32:36.206
- and thank you
- for this opportunity


00:32:36.206 --> 00:32:38.750
to talk to you about whales.

00:32:38.750 --> 00:32:42.128
- So, this is my personal
- favourite humpback whale.


00:32:42.128 --> 00:32:44.089
Her name is Notch.

00:32:44.089 --> 00:32:46.800
- But I just wanna to tell you
- a little story about her.


00:32:46.800 --> 00:32:49.636
- What happened last year
- was she arrived with a calf,


00:32:49.636 --> 00:32:51.846
- and part way through the season,
- she showed up,


00:32:51.846 --> 00:32:54.140
- and she didn't have
- the calf with her.


00:32:54.140 --> 00:32:56.643
- She wasn't feeding.
- She was just floating.


00:32:56.643 --> 00:32:58.353
She would move around a bit.

00:32:58.353 --> 00:32:59.938
But, I mean, you know,

00:32:59.938 --> 00:33:02.732
- I was trying not to think
- about my human thoughts,


00:33:02.732 --> 00:33:05.151
- but I would have said
- she was depressed.


00:33:05.151 --> 00:33:08.947
- Obviously, she had lost her calf
- and she was very, very upset.


00:33:08.947 --> 00:33:10.991
- Then what happened
- on that 3rd day


00:33:10.991 --> 00:33:13.868
- is another female
- that we know very, very well,


00:33:13.868 --> 00:33:15.745
that female came into the bay,

00:33:15.745 --> 00:33:18.707
- and she very slowly started
- to move towards Notch.


00:33:18.707 --> 00:33:21.501
- She was first probably
- within about 300 meters,


00:33:21.501 --> 00:33:23.461
and she also just floated there.

00:33:23.461 --> 00:33:25.630
- And then she went
- about 200 meters,


00:33:25.630 --> 00:33:29.092
- and then she just floated there
- very, very carefully.


00:33:29.092 --> 00:33:30.885
- And then she went
- a little bit closer


00:33:30.885 --> 00:33:34.180
- to the point where she was
- probably within about 10 meters,


00:33:34.180 --> 00:33:35.640
and she just floated there.

00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.434
And then, all of the sudden,

00:33:37.434 --> 00:33:39.811
- Notch, it was as if
- she came out of her trance.


00:33:39.811 --> 00:33:41.312
She just woke up.

00:33:41.312 --> 00:33:43.314
- And it's almost like
- she did a little wiggle.


00:33:43.314 --> 00:33:44.607
And for whatever reason,

00:33:44.607 --> 00:33:46.651
- this female then
- went in even closer.


00:33:46.651 --> 00:33:49.612
- They were almost touching,
- but they weren't touching.


00:33:49.612 --> 00:33:51.197
But it was like this far away.

00:33:51.197 --> 00:33:53.325
- And then they
- just swam away together.


00:33:53.325 --> 00:33:56.328
- And it was the most amazing
- thing I had ever seen.


00:33:56.328 --> 00:33:58.663
- Because, in that moment,
- I recognized


00:33:58.663 --> 00:34:02.125
- that these whales have
- very, very strong bonds


00:34:02.125 --> 00:34:04.002
- with each other. So,
- these 2 females, Notch,


00:34:04.002 --> 00:34:06.504
- and the other female,
- her name was Cross,


00:34:06.504 --> 00:34:09.299
- they have both been here
- for over 15 years.


00:34:09.299 --> 00:34:10.800
They're both mothers,

00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:12.886
- and they have both had
- a number of calves.


00:34:12.886 --> 00:34:14.846
- So I really like to tell
- that story


00:34:14.846 --> 00:34:17.140
- because I really like people
- to recognize


00:34:17.140 --> 00:34:19.434
- that these whales
- actually do have bonds.


00:34:19.434 --> 00:34:22.187
- Even though they don't stay
- in the family groups


00:34:22.187 --> 00:34:23.730
like the orca do,

00:34:23.730 --> 00:34:25.982
- they are still very, very close
- to each other.


00:34:25.982 --> 00:34:27.734
Yes?

00:34:27.734 --> 00:34:30.987
- Have you seen interest of
- any of those larger companies


00:34:30.987 --> 00:34:33.907
- that wanna put bigger
- ships on the coast?


00:34:33.907 --> 00:34:36.242
- Have they asked or
- approached you


00:34:36.242 --> 00:34:39.871
- about whale numbers
- or how to avoid them?


00:34:39.871 --> 00:34:40.872
(Laughing)

00:34:40.872 --> 00:34:42.332
- No, but...

00:34:42.332 --> 00:34:43.625
(Laughing)

00:34:43.625 --> 00:34:45.126
Not at this point.

00:34:45.126 --> 00:34:48.129
- So, what we're doing
- with the data that we have,


00:34:48.129 --> 00:34:51.675
- we are giving that data
- to First Nation communities


00:34:51.675 --> 00:34:53.635
so that they can use that.

00:34:53.635 --> 00:34:56.638
- Because I think that,
- at this point in time,


00:34:56.638 --> 00:34:59.015
- they probably have
- a better handle


00:34:59.015 --> 00:35:01.935
- on having a conversation
- about such matters.


00:35:01.935 --> 00:35:04.938
(Ravens cawing)

00:35:18.243 --> 00:35:20.495
- (Mirjam Leuze):
- Roy, how are you connected


00:35:20.495 --> 00:35:21.997
to Janie and Hermann?

00:35:21.997 --> 00:35:23.748
(Chuckling)

00:35:23.748 --> 00:35:26.292
- Oh, Janie and Hermann.

00:35:26.292 --> 00:35:30.588
- There was this lady,
- a doctor, a scientist,


00:35:30.588 --> 00:35:33.550
- who was giving
- a presentation on whales,


00:35:33.550 --> 00:35:35.927
and it was Janie.

00:35:35.927 --> 00:35:40.807
- And I listened to
- her 45-minute presentation,


00:35:40.807 --> 00:35:44.728
and it was so powerful...

00:35:46.604 --> 00:35:50.400
that I feel it right now.

00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.153
I couldn't...

00:35:53.153 --> 00:35:56.323
I was so overcome by emotion,

00:35:56.323 --> 00:35:59.492
- I couldn't go to her
- and tell her.


00:35:59.492 --> 00:36:02.996
- I had to go back to my room,
- and I just sat in my room,


00:36:02.996 --> 00:36:05.582
- and I cried
- for about 10 minutes.


00:36:05.582 --> 00:36:10.128
- And then when it was all gone,
- washed my face,


00:36:10.128 --> 00:36:13.673
- and I went downstairs,and I went
- over to Janie and introduced
- myself.


00:36:15.091 --> 00:36:16.843
And she knew who I was.

00:36:18.511 --> 00:36:20.972
- I just said:
- "You know, first of all,


00:36:20.972 --> 00:36:24.142
- "it's really hard to believe
- you're a scientist


00:36:24.142 --> 00:36:27.645
- "when you were able to speak
- with such emotion


00:36:27.645 --> 00:36:30.148
"about the whales.

00:36:30.148 --> 00:36:33.026
And I'm the son of a whale."

00:36:33.026 --> 00:36:35.028
And she kind of looked at me,

00:36:35.028 --> 00:36:37.781
- and I said:
- "My grandmother was a whale,


00:36:37.781 --> 00:36:41.284
- "so I really appreciate
- what you did,


00:36:41.284 --> 00:36:44.746
- "and it's changed
- my life completely.


00:36:44.746 --> 00:36:49.084
- "I will never think
- of my home waters the same


00:36:49.084 --> 00:36:51.419
for the rest of my life."

00:37:09.312 --> 00:37:12.941
- The story I'm gonna tell you
- about that place,


00:37:12.941 --> 00:37:16.111
- nobody has heard here
- for a long time.


00:37:18.029 --> 00:37:21.408
- A long, long time ago,
- there were some men


00:37:21.408 --> 00:37:24.828
who went down to Lax'eils

00:37:24.828 --> 00:37:29.249
to their gathering food grounds.

00:37:29.249 --> 00:37:33.837
- When they got to Lax'eils,
- they were really tired.


00:37:33.837 --> 00:37:38.425
- They just took their anchor and
- they dropped it over the side.


00:37:38.425 --> 00:37:42.971
- In the old days, when we drop
- an anchor overboard,


00:37:42.971 --> 00:37:45.682
we just say a little prayer,

00:37:45.682 --> 00:37:48.685
- and we lower
- the anchor down gently


00:37:48.685 --> 00:37:50.895
so it doesn't hurt anything.

00:37:50.895 --> 00:37:53.398
- Well, these people
- were so tired,


00:37:53.398 --> 00:37:55.150
they just threw it overboard.

00:37:55.150 --> 00:37:56.651
They didn't say anything.

00:37:56.651 --> 00:37:58.403
(Roy clapping)

00:37:58.403 --> 00:38:01.656
- Boom! It landed on the roof
- of the chief of the orca.


00:38:01.656 --> 00:38:05.243
- The roof shook,
- and the chief said:


00:38:05.243 --> 00:38:07.746
"What is happening up there?"

00:38:07.746 --> 00:38:11.416
And he said to his 2 warriors:

00:38:11.416 --> 00:38:13.835
"I want you to go up there,

00:38:13.835 --> 00:38:17.881
- and I want you to bring them
- down to this house."


00:38:19.090 --> 00:38:22.302
The 2 orca warriors went up,

00:38:22.302 --> 00:38:24.596
and they came to the surface,

00:38:24.596 --> 00:38:28.391
- and they swam around
- and around and around.


00:38:28.391 --> 00:38:30.727
- And down went the canoe
- and the men,


00:38:30.727 --> 00:38:34.064
- and sucked them right
- into the orca chief's house.


00:38:35.982 --> 00:38:39.194
And the chief says to them:

00:38:39.194 --> 00:38:41.613
"Who are you people?

00:38:41.613 --> 00:38:44.783
- "Who is your mother?
- Who is your father?


00:38:44.783 --> 00:38:46.910
"Who are your grandparents?

00:38:46.910 --> 00:38:48.703
"Didn't they teach you

00:38:48.703 --> 00:38:52.082
- "the way to be respectful
- of this world around you?


00:38:52.082 --> 00:38:56.169
- "That is not the way
- to behave in this world."


00:38:56.169 --> 00:38:59.089
And the men were so scared.

00:38:59.089 --> 00:39:02.676
- And the most courageous
- one of them stood up,


00:39:02.676 --> 00:39:05.053
and he said to the orca chief:

00:39:05.053 --> 00:39:07.389
"We are really sorry.

00:39:07.389 --> 00:39:10.058
"We came a long way.

00:39:10.058 --> 00:39:12.477
- "And when we threw
- the anchor over,


00:39:12.477 --> 00:39:14.813
- "we didn't do
- what we were taught


00:39:14.813 --> 00:39:17.899
because we were tired.

00:39:17.899 --> 00:39:21.695
- So please forgive us
- for being so disrespectful."


00:39:21.695 --> 00:39:26.116
- And the orca chief looked
- at them and thought:


00:39:26.116 --> 00:39:27.951
"Maybe this is a good time

00:39:27.951 --> 00:39:32.122
- to teach these people
- something they don't know."


00:39:32.122 --> 00:39:36.876
- The 2 warriors took the 4 men
- through the ocean


00:39:36.876 --> 00:39:41.256
- and taught them about
- the tides and how they move,


00:39:41.256 --> 00:39:43.842
taught them about the salmon,

00:39:43.842 --> 00:39:47.137
- when the sockeye come,
- when the chum come,


00:39:47.137 --> 00:39:50.056
when the spring salmon come.

00:39:50.056 --> 00:39:53.184
- And so they learned
- all about under the sea.


00:39:53.184 --> 00:39:57.397
- And when they came back
- to the orca chief's house,


00:39:57.397 --> 00:40:00.233
they were very thankful.

00:40:00.233 --> 00:40:02.360
And they said to the chief:

00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:06.823
- "We really appreciate that you
- taught us all of these things.


00:40:06.823 --> 00:40:09.451
"If we have your permission,

00:40:09.451 --> 00:40:12.287
- "we would like to go back
- to our people


00:40:12.287 --> 00:40:15.665
- and teach them
- about this world down here."


00:40:15.665 --> 00:40:18.710
- And the men got back
- to their village.


00:40:18.710 --> 00:40:21.755
- And they started
- telling the story


00:40:21.755 --> 00:40:25.633
- about all of those things
- under the ocean.


00:40:25.633 --> 00:40:27.761
When we come to get fish,

00:40:27.761 --> 00:40:31.348
- we should take them
- with a thankful heart,


00:40:31.348 --> 00:40:34.517
and we should take what we need.

00:40:34.517 --> 00:40:37.062
That's all. That's it.

00:40:52.452 --> 00:40:54.454
- OK!

00:41:11.471 --> 00:41:12.972
(Grunting)

00:41:12.972 --> 00:41:15.517
- You guys be happy,
- then I'll be happy.


00:41:15.517 --> 00:41:16.518
- Yeah.

00:41:19.145 --> 00:41:20.730
Everyone's happy.

00:41:20.730 --> 00:41:22.273
- Yeah!

00:41:27.112 --> 00:41:29.739
(Men talking, indistinct)

00:41:57.892 --> 00:42:02.063
- (Spencer): I recently started
- my PhD, my doctorate.


00:42:02.063 --> 00:42:06.401
- A lot of my work is
- around cultural history,


00:42:06.401 --> 00:42:08.903
traditional management

00:42:08.903 --> 00:42:12.741
- of fish, animals,
- plants and language.


00:42:22.917 --> 00:42:26.463
- (Man): You can't be late.
- What are you guys doing there?


00:42:26.463 --> 00:42:30.091
- (Woman): Wait, are you
- playing from scratch?


00:42:30.091 --> 00:42:31.801
- No!
- Damn it!


00:42:31.801 --> 00:42:34.888
- (Spencer): When we think
- of decolonizing food,


00:42:34.888 --> 00:42:38.224
- look at how many First Nations
- were forced to live


00:42:38.224 --> 00:42:40.393
- on a system of
- rations and handouts.


00:42:40.393 --> 00:42:42.896
- And nobody wants
- the handout system.


00:42:42.896 --> 00:42:45.857
- People aren't happy
- living on that system.


00:42:45.857 --> 00:42:49.194
- And it's forced us into
- unhealthy situations,


00:42:49.194 --> 00:42:52.322
- and it's forced us away
- from our territory.


00:42:52.322 --> 00:42:54.115
Because a part of managing,

00:42:54.115 --> 00:42:56.076
- when you are
- decolonizing your diet,


00:42:56.076 --> 00:42:57.952
- you're engaging
- with the territory.


00:42:57.952 --> 00:43:00.288
- And when you're engaging
- with the territory


00:43:00.288 --> 00:43:03.917
- from a place of
- Indigenous knowledge,


00:43:03.917 --> 00:43:07.003
- generally, you're managing it,
- you're stewarding it.


00:43:07.003 --> 00:43:10.674
- And then on a political level,
- in any way, shape or form


00:43:10.674 --> 00:43:13.927
- can the crown say
- they know this land,


00:43:13.927 --> 00:43:16.554
have more rights to this land

00:43:16.554 --> 00:43:19.766
- and can manage this land
- better than we have.


00:43:19.766 --> 00:43:21.935
It's just a straight-out lie.

00:43:21.935 --> 00:43:24.938
(♪ Rock on stereo ♪)

00:43:27.649 --> 00:43:30.902
(Seagull squawking)

00:43:56.594 --> 00:43:58.596
- (Woman):
- What did you say?


00:43:58.596 --> 00:44:00.557
- (Man): I didn't say anything.
- You did.


00:44:00.557 --> 00:44:03.893
- Oh, you said Jennifer had been
- flying around on her broom.


00:44:03.893 --> 00:44:06.938
- Well, you know,
- every good witch has a broom!


00:44:06.938 --> 00:44:08.356
(Woman and man laughing)

00:44:08.356 --> 00:44:12.152
And I happen to be a good witch.

00:44:12.152 --> 00:44:17.532
- And if it's a well-worn broom,
- she's a really good witch.


00:44:17.532 --> 00:44:19.993
(Woman laughing)

00:44:19.993 --> 00:44:22.829
- I know! - This is
- Kim-Ly's underline.


00:44:22.829 --> 00:44:26.541
- "For salmon to return,
- their flesh must be consumed."


00:44:26.541 --> 00:44:28.251
- Isn't this...

00:44:28.251 --> 00:44:31.880
- "For salmon to return,
- their flesh must be consumed


00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.924
- "and their bones must
- be placed in a fire


00:44:34.924 --> 00:44:39.512
- so that the salmon will be
- reborn as a healthy individual."


00:44:39.512 --> 00:44:40.722
- Wow!

00:44:40.722 --> 00:44:42.140
- It's part of mythology.

00:44:42.140 --> 00:44:44.100
- But here we see
- anything from the sea


00:44:44.100 --> 00:44:46.394
- has to get returned
- back to the sea.


00:44:46.394 --> 00:44:47.479
- Yeah.

00:44:47.479 --> 00:44:49.105
- Right?

00:44:49.105 --> 00:44:53.068
- Anything of the land gets
- put back into the land.


00:45:18.218 --> 00:45:21.846
(Whales singing)

00:45:26.726 --> 00:45:31.856
(Whales singing)

00:45:38.446 --> 00:45:40.657
(Whales calling on speakers)

00:45:40.657 --> 00:45:43.201
(Birds chirping)

00:46:08.560 --> 00:46:12.314
- The most important thing
- for us to know at this point


00:46:12.314 --> 00:46:14.107
is the differences in the clans.

00:46:14.107 --> 00:46:15.692
Is it an A-clan family,

00:46:15.692 --> 00:46:17.986
- is it a G-clan family
- or an R-clan family?


00:46:17.986 --> 00:46:22.157
- Because the differences within
- the clans are very obvious.


00:46:22.157 --> 00:46:25.577
- But when it comes to
- within any acoustic clans,


00:46:25.577 --> 00:46:27.954
within the A-clans, for example,

00:46:27.954 --> 00:46:31.416
- the differences are getting
- smaller and smaller.


00:46:31.416 --> 00:46:34.753
- The more these families
- are related to each other,


00:46:34.753 --> 00:46:38.923
- the less sort of differences
- in acoustic tradition they have.


00:46:38.923 --> 00:46:43.595
- OK, so I'm just gonna play you
- 2 different A-pod resting calls.


00:46:43.595 --> 00:46:46.056
- What we just heard,
- it's like a "knay".


00:46:46.056 --> 00:46:48.058
It's a very short call.

00:46:48.058 --> 00:46:51.603
- And, for the A1's,
- they sound like this...


00:46:53.521 --> 00:46:55.273
(Whales calling on speakers)

00:46:55.273 --> 00:46:57.275
(Hermann imitating whale call)

00:46:57.275 --> 00:47:01.321
- And then the A5's
- make it similar,


00:47:01.321 --> 00:47:03.990
but it sounds a little more,

00:47:03.990 --> 00:47:06.242
- I think, perhaps a
- little higher frequency.


00:47:07.619 --> 00:47:09.829
(Whale calling on speakers)

00:47:09.829 --> 00:47:13.208
It's still like a short...

00:47:13.208 --> 00:47:15.669
like a "knay".

00:47:15.669 --> 00:47:19.130
Looking for the A5 pod,

00:47:19.130 --> 00:47:23.468
- the A5's are a pod that
- we have around here quite often.


00:47:23.468 --> 00:47:27.931
- And they have a signature call.
- It is the N9.


00:47:27.931 --> 00:47:30.141
(Whale calling on speakers)

00:47:32.143 --> 00:47:34.813
I call it the "wee-a" call.

00:47:34.813 --> 00:47:37.941
Wee-a!

00:47:37.941 --> 00:47:41.611
- I would just like you
- to listen to this,


00:47:41.611 --> 00:47:44.948
- because it's
- a pretty cool recording.


00:47:44.948 --> 00:47:47.826
(Whales singing on speakers)

00:47:52.288 --> 00:47:56.710
That's a G-clan resting call.

00:47:56.710 --> 00:47:59.713
(Singing continues)

00:48:01.756 --> 00:48:03.758
Ping-ping-ping-ping!

00:48:03.758 --> 00:48:07.012
- Those more distant calls
- are all A-clan.


00:48:07.012 --> 00:48:10.432
- But those closer ones
- are all G-clan "pings".


00:48:13.935 --> 00:48:16.229
And those "knay" calls,

00:48:16.229 --> 00:48:19.357
those are A-clan resting calls.

00:48:21.067 --> 00:48:23.737
(Whales singing)

00:48:32.787 --> 00:48:35.165
(Raven calling)

00:48:56.394 --> 00:48:57.687
- This was great.

00:48:57.687 --> 00:49:00.357
- This whale started
- tail-slapping.


00:49:00.357 --> 00:49:03.193
- But you see that little nick
- right there?


00:49:03.193 --> 00:49:04.944
That is Surf.

00:49:04.944 --> 00:49:08.031
- So, actually, which is
- also really interesting,


00:49:08.031 --> 00:49:10.492
Surf is not a huge whale.

00:49:10.492 --> 00:49:14.954
- So, I would put Surf, even
- though she's had a calf already,


00:49:14.954 --> 00:49:18.333
- she would be more of
- a sub-adult to an adult.


00:49:18.333 --> 00:49:21.961
- And now all I have are just
- the best flukes of the day.


00:49:21.961 --> 00:49:25.382
- So, now I can go through
- and ID each individual,


00:49:25.382 --> 00:49:27.801
- and then I take this,
- all this data,


00:49:27.801 --> 00:49:31.388
- and I put it into
- an Excel sheet.


00:49:31.388 --> 00:49:35.517
- So, that data will be used
- to produce peer-reviewed papers,


00:49:35.517 --> 00:49:37.310
- to put together reports,
- you know,


00:49:37.310 --> 00:49:40.397
- so that you can compare
- sightings from season to season.


00:49:40.397 --> 00:49:43.024
- It's endless what you can do
- with that data.


00:49:43.024 --> 00:49:45.735
- The more seasons of data
- that you have, you know,


00:49:45.735 --> 00:49:47.696
the better baseline you have

00:49:47.696 --> 00:49:51.825
- to understand how whales are
- using a particular habitat.


00:49:56.538 --> 00:49:58.623
- It's funny, I feel like
- I have never left.


00:49:58.623 --> 00:49:59.708
- Yeah?

00:49:59.708 --> 00:50:02.752
- Yeah.
- I do, actually.


00:50:02.752 --> 00:50:04.546
- What about the next one?
- Just curious.


00:50:04.546 --> 00:50:06.798
- I think that's the same
- one you had back a ways.


00:50:06.798 --> 00:50:08.383
- The other one
- that you showed me.


00:50:08.383 --> 00:50:09.551
- This one?

00:50:09.551 --> 00:50:11.052
No ID.

00:50:11.052 --> 00:50:12.887
- Oh, really?
- No.


00:50:12.887 --> 00:50:15.432
- Yeah, you know
- who I think that is?


00:50:15.432 --> 00:50:17.767
- You're gonna think
- I'm crazy but...


00:50:19.352 --> 00:50:22.772
BCX069...

00:50:25.525 --> 00:50:31.197
- BCX069... 5.
- Oh, here we go.


00:50:31.197 --> 00:50:32.699
- Oh yeah!

00:50:32.699 --> 00:50:34.659
- See, this is what
- throws it off.


00:50:34.659 --> 00:50:35.994
- So, that is Sarah.

00:50:35.994 --> 00:50:37.495
- Yeah.

00:50:37.495 --> 00:50:39.164
- And you see that
- little notch there.


00:50:39.164 --> 00:50:40.665
- Right at
- the bottom there.


00:50:40.665 --> 00:50:42.709
- It's not really great
- in this picture, either.


00:50:42.709 --> 00:50:44.294
- Yeah.

00:50:44.294 --> 00:50:46.296
- My landmark for her
- is this right here.


00:50:46.296 --> 00:50:48.381
- As soon as I see that,
- I know it's her.


00:50:48.381 --> 00:50:50.842
- That's what I go for
- on that particular whale.


00:50:50.842 --> 00:50:52.302
- It is, too, eh?
- Yeah, it is.


00:50:52.302 --> 00:50:54.262
- See, that's why
- Photo Mechanic is great,


00:50:54.262 --> 00:50:56.306
- and that's definitely
- the better picture.


00:51:01.436 --> 00:51:05.148
- You packed like you're
- gonna stay! I love it!


00:51:05.148 --> 00:51:06.900
- (Laughing)- Well, half of
- this is Fin.


00:51:06.900 --> 00:51:08.860
It's not just us.

00:51:08.860 --> 00:51:11.738
(Talking indistinctly)

00:51:11.738 --> 00:51:13.073
- You've got a
- really nice house!


00:51:13.073 --> 00:51:14.949
- I like it.
- I like it.


00:51:14.949 --> 00:51:16.451
- Thank you for
- letting us stay.


00:51:16.451 --> 00:51:18.161
- All those people
- getting new homes,


00:51:18.161 --> 00:51:19.746
- I said: "I am
- happy with ours."


00:51:19.746 --> 00:51:21.289
- We've got the raven
- and the killer whale.


00:51:21.289 --> 00:51:23.416
- I saw the raven
- and the killer whale.


00:51:23.416 --> 00:51:25.085
- I even strapped
- it in on the plane.


00:51:25.085 --> 00:51:27.837
- (Bunker): We were gonna
- put it in a glass tank.


00:51:27.837 --> 00:51:29.839
- I'll show you the rooms.

00:51:29.839 --> 00:51:31.257
- We're gonna be gone,

00:51:31.257 --> 00:51:34.094
- so you could just move
- into our room tomorrow.


00:51:35.428 --> 00:51:36.680
- Oh, for you.

00:51:36.680 --> 00:51:38.640
- For me?
- Yes! A while ago!


00:51:38.640 --> 00:51:39.724
- Oh my God,
- you guys!


00:51:39.724 --> 00:51:40.850
- We had it forever!

00:51:42.352 --> 00:51:44.270
- Oh my God!

00:51:44.270 --> 00:51:45.563
- Yeah!

00:51:45.563 --> 00:51:47.190
- Whoa!

00:51:47.190 --> 00:51:49.609
- Gosh! When did we get it?
- December? Christmas?


00:51:49.609 --> 00:51:50.902
- Oh, that is
- beyond beautiful!


00:51:50.902 --> 00:51:52.988
- I think it was
- your Christmas gift.


00:51:52.988 --> 00:51:54.781
- Oh my God, that is...
- Yeah!


00:51:54.781 --> 00:51:56.157
- Well, thank you so much.

00:51:56.157 --> 00:51:58.243
- I'll put that
- around my neck today.


00:51:58.243 --> 00:51:59.160
- Nice, eh?

00:51:59.160 --> 00:52:00.620
- Thanks, Bunker.

00:52:00.620 --> 00:52:02.247
Did you pick it out, Bunker?

00:52:02.247 --> 00:52:04.207
- No.
- He probably did.


00:52:04.207 --> 00:52:05.917
- This one has a
- blowhole on it.


00:52:05.917 --> 00:52:07.419
- I think that was...

00:52:07.419 --> 00:52:10.755
- Is that what you had
- at Rennison at one point?


00:52:10.755 --> 00:52:13.216
- Yeah, I did see them. That's
- from the whale that we took
- samples from.


00:52:13.216 --> 00:52:15.010
Oh, really?

00:52:15.010 --> 00:52:18.013
- We should put that at the
- Fin Island cabin for visitors.


00:52:18.013 --> 00:52:21.641
- I would put the
- whale vertebrae on the door.


00:52:21.641 --> 00:52:23.935
That would be super cool.

00:52:35.322 --> 00:52:38.074
- I just adore
- Bunker and Nicole, though.


00:52:38.074 --> 00:52:39.868
I really do.

00:52:39.868 --> 00:52:43.455
- (Mirjam): How did you meet
- Bunker and Nicole?


00:52:43.455 --> 00:52:46.124
- You know, I've known Bunker
- longer than Nicole,


00:52:46.124 --> 00:52:49.419
- 'cause Bunker has been a
- guardian for a number of years.


00:52:49.419 --> 00:52:51.796
- So I met Bunker initially
- as a guardian


00:52:51.796 --> 00:52:54.507
- when we had the out-camp
- at the Wall Islets.


00:52:54.507 --> 00:52:57.969
- And Bunker was a Guardian.
- He was working at Rennison.


00:52:57.969 --> 00:53:00.722
And then that...

00:53:00.722 --> 00:53:03.767
- I don't know what year
- it was that I met Nicole.


00:53:03.767 --> 00:53:07.103
And she just...

00:53:07.103 --> 00:53:09.314
- You know, I mean,
- she's got her own story.


00:53:09.314 --> 00:53:11.608
- Like, they spent
- a weekend at Whale Point,


00:53:11.608 --> 00:53:14.444
- and she heard whales,
- which just opened up her world,


00:53:14.444 --> 00:53:16.071
which, to me, meant a lot.

00:53:16.071 --> 00:53:17.906
- Because when
- I was really a little girl,


00:53:17.906 --> 00:53:20.950
- it was the sound of a whale
- that did the same thing to me,


00:53:20.950 --> 00:53:22.994
- and it did the exact
- same thing to her.


00:53:22.994 --> 00:53:24.996
I think it called her home.

00:53:24.996 --> 00:53:26.831
She just hasn't been the same.

00:53:26.831 --> 00:53:29.459
- She has just been so focused
- on whales ever since then,


00:53:29.459 --> 00:53:31.086
so, yeah.

00:53:31.086 --> 00:53:33.922
- And of course, Bunker has been
- even before that.


00:53:33.922 --> 00:53:35.215
And it's interesting, too,

00:53:35.215 --> 00:53:37.592
- because, you know,
- I can't say it for sure


00:53:37.592 --> 00:53:41.304
- but I get the feeling
- from Bunker


00:53:41.304 --> 00:53:44.808
- that he is very focused on
- orcaand Nicole, you know, she
- seems to be the humpback lady,
- right?


00:53:51.106 --> 00:53:53.483
- Yeah, as long as
- it's not too windy.


00:53:53.483 --> 00:53:55.694
- Yeah. There's a little
- bit of a breeze.


00:53:55.694 --> 00:53:56.945
Have you met Elise yet?

00:53:56.945 --> 00:53:58.238
- I can't remember.
- Yeah!


00:53:58.238 --> 00:53:59.322
- OK.
- Yeah.


00:53:59.322 --> 00:54:00.240
- Yesterday.

00:54:00.240 --> 00:54:01.700
- Oh yeah, that's right.

00:54:21.469 --> 00:54:25.265
Wow! That's amazing.

00:54:32.272 --> 00:54:33.982
- You're good!

00:54:35.775 --> 00:54:37.110
- I can't breathe!

00:54:37.110 --> 00:54:38.695
- It's pretty nice!

00:54:38.695 --> 00:54:40.322
- Holy shit, Marven!

00:54:40.322 --> 00:54:42.907
- So, I'm not responsible
- for this one post.


00:54:42.907 --> 00:54:45.327
- But, you know, I mean,
- unless you guys want it,


00:54:45.327 --> 00:54:48.538
- I don't think we
- need 2 bedrooms.


00:54:48.538 --> 00:54:50.582
- I think if we
- just have one...


00:54:50.582 --> 00:54:52.208
- And have bunk beds.

00:54:52.208 --> 00:54:54.377
- We could put a curtain
- in between the bunk beds,


00:54:54.377 --> 00:54:56.463
- if they want privacy,
- whoever's here.


00:54:56.463 --> 00:54:57.380
- OK, that's fine.

00:54:57.380 --> 00:54:59.174
- Then just put a tiny--

00:54:59.174 --> 00:55:01.634
- We don't want you to have
- a nice living room, though.


00:55:01.634 --> 00:55:03.219
- Hermann said that
- wasn't in the plan.


00:55:03.219 --> 00:55:06.014
(Both laughing)

00:55:06.014 --> 00:55:08.141
- Do you feel a shake? No?- No,
- there's hardly any shake. - Not
- really.


00:55:08.141 --> 00:55:10.810
- We have more shake at
- the Whale Point than on this.


00:55:10.810 --> 00:55:13.772
- What I think is really
- exciting about this cabin,


00:55:13.772 --> 00:55:16.024
- is that it's a
- joint project, right?


00:55:16.024 --> 00:55:17.776
It's not just Whale Point.

00:55:17.776 --> 00:55:21.071
- This is a project that's
- being shared or partnered


00:55:21.071 --> 00:55:23.615
with the Gitga'at.

00:55:23.615 --> 00:55:27.118
- So this cabin is shared with
- the Gitga'at and with WWF,


00:55:27.118 --> 00:55:28.578
so World Wildlife Fund.

00:55:28.578 --> 00:55:30.622
- So I think that
- makes it more exciting


00:55:30.622 --> 00:55:33.416
- because we're working
- more together on this.


00:55:33.416 --> 00:55:35.043
The data that we're collecting

00:55:35.043 --> 00:55:37.128
- is going directly
- to Hartley Bay, right,


00:55:37.128 --> 00:55:39.964
- so they are able to use
- this information


00:55:39.964 --> 00:55:41.758
to help protect this area.

00:55:47.722 --> 00:55:49.432
- I got it!
- You got it?


00:55:49.432 --> 00:55:50.767
- We got it!

00:55:57.649 --> 00:55:58.942
(Talking indistinctly)

00:55:58.942 --> 00:56:00.360
- (Intern):
- Yeah, it's fine.


00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:02.445
- I think I'm just
- gonna put it right here.


00:56:02.445 --> 00:56:04.656
- What are you
- doing, Hermann?


00:56:04.656 --> 00:56:07.200
- I'm hooking up
- the solar panel,


00:56:07.200 --> 00:56:11.037
- and then this is a new
- power thing over Ethernet


00:56:11.037 --> 00:56:12.706
for the hydrophone.

00:56:17.293 --> 00:56:20.255
- (Mirjam): Marven,
- is Hermann a good raven?


00:56:20.255 --> 00:56:22.132
- A good raven? Yeah.

00:56:22.132 --> 00:56:27.095
- Actually, that should've been
- his name, White Raven, eh?


00:56:27.095 --> 00:56:31.182
- Like, there's only, what,
- one in Haida Gwaii, eh?


00:56:31.182 --> 00:56:34.019
- And Hermann was
- adopted by your dad?


00:56:34.019 --> 00:56:36.604
- No, it was Christopher's dad,
- my brother, right?


00:56:36.604 --> 00:56:38.148
- Yeah.

00:56:38.148 --> 00:56:40.317
- And then you have to
- get everybody to agree


00:56:40.317 --> 00:56:42.319
that you're taking him.

00:56:42.319 --> 00:56:46.156
- And then what happens,
- when something goes on,


00:56:46.156 --> 00:56:50.535
- those people are the ones
- that help you.


00:56:50.535 --> 00:56:53.288
- So in the time of need,
- Hermann's around.


00:56:53.288 --> 00:56:57.000
- Well, the thing is,
- it's just as easy as, you know,


00:56:57.000 --> 00:56:59.961
- being eyes in this part
- of the territory,


00:56:59.961 --> 00:57:02.547
- you know, where Marven
- can't just be all the time.


00:57:02.547 --> 00:57:06.801
- And whenever there's
- some stuff going on that I see,


00:57:06.801 --> 00:57:11.222
- you know,
- may it be some potential


00:57:11.222 --> 00:57:14.934
- bear-hunting person
- or beachcomber


00:57:14.934 --> 00:57:17.896
that doesn't really belong here,

00:57:17.896 --> 00:57:20.023
then I'll just let Marven know.

00:57:26.112 --> 00:57:29.824
- When I was adopted into
- the Blackfish Clan


00:57:29.824 --> 00:57:31.785
or the Killerwhale Clan...

00:57:36.289 --> 00:57:39.000
- it showed me
- I was on the right path,


00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:43.046
- and it meant to me
- that I was being accepted


00:57:43.046 --> 00:57:44.589
by this community

00:57:44.589 --> 00:57:47.967
in a way that...

00:57:49.969 --> 00:57:53.890
- Yeah, it was like being accepted
- into a pod of whales, in a way.


00:57:53.890 --> 00:57:57.352
- You know, it meant
- everything to me.


00:57:57.352 --> 00:57:59.771
I was truly touched to the core

00:57:59.771 --> 00:58:03.733
- when I was told that
- I was going to be given a name


00:58:03.733 --> 00:58:08.405
- and that I was being adopted
- into the Killerwhale Clan, yeah.


00:58:08.405 --> 00:58:11.741
- And we were adopted,
- both of us, Janie and I,


00:58:11.741 --> 00:58:15.161
- me as a Raven,
- her as a Killerwhale,


00:58:15.161 --> 00:58:18.915
- in the late summer,
- fall of 2007.


00:58:18.915 --> 00:58:22.252
And we were told.

00:58:22.252 --> 00:58:25.422
- I mean, there was
- no big notice of:


00:58:25.422 --> 00:58:27.549
"You will be adopted."

00:58:27.549 --> 00:58:29.509
- You know,
- we didn't know by March


00:58:29.509 --> 00:58:31.678
that we got adopted in October.

00:58:31.678 --> 00:58:33.430
It was announced as a feast:

00:58:33.430 --> 00:58:36.975
- "There's a naming feast,
- and you guys need to attend


00:58:36.975 --> 00:58:39.269
- "because you will be
- getting names.


00:58:39.269 --> 00:58:40.895
You will be adopted."

00:58:40.895 --> 00:58:44.607
- Helen Clifton did that.
- And she was the driving factor.


00:58:44.607 --> 00:58:46.651
I think, she made sure that,

00:58:46.651 --> 00:58:49.112
- "OK, with Enbridge
- at the doorstep


00:58:49.112 --> 00:58:52.073
- "and the sort of trouble
- that was going on


00:58:52.073 --> 00:58:55.952
- "between on-reserve and
- off-reserve Gitga'at people,


00:58:55.952 --> 00:58:58.747
- "if you want to keep
- these people here


00:58:58.747 --> 00:59:00.373
"working and helping us,

00:59:00.373 --> 00:59:03.418
- we need to incorporate them
- into our clans."


00:59:03.418 --> 00:59:06.838
- I think that Helen
- was very, very smart about it.


00:59:09.007 --> 00:59:11.509
- It looks too erect
- to be the female, that one.


00:59:11.509 --> 00:59:12.844
- Maybe that's the...

00:59:12.844 --> 00:59:14.763
- Well, that's the calf,
- though, so...


00:59:14.763 --> 00:59:16.348
(All muttering)

00:59:19.601 --> 00:59:20.977
It's got, like four...

00:59:20.977 --> 00:59:22.937
- Is there
- something here too?


00:59:22.937 --> 00:59:24.648
- Four marks.

00:59:24.648 --> 00:59:26.274
- One, two, three, four.

00:59:26.274 --> 00:59:29.361
- And that thing up here,
- that's some sort of glare.


00:59:29.361 --> 00:59:32.697
- I don't know.
- It's hard to tell.


00:59:34.032 --> 00:59:36.201
- Oh, that is
- so difficult to tell.


00:59:37.744 --> 00:59:39.329
- I'm gonna do the first scan.

00:59:39.329 --> 00:59:41.039
John, do you wanna sit here?

00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:43.249
- (John): I just have to go
- and do this thing.


00:59:58.598 --> 01:00:00.767
(Snorting)

01:00:07.816 --> 01:00:09.901
- Did you see anything?

01:00:09.901 --> 01:00:11.611
- Only a sea lion in G.

01:00:11.611 --> 01:00:13.321
Well, only...

01:00:13.321 --> 01:00:15.699
- I can't believe after a week,
- you say "only a sea lion."


01:00:15.699 --> 01:00:17.200
(Chuckling)

01:00:19.828 --> 01:00:21.663
- This is the bible,

01:00:21.663 --> 01:00:25.750
- because this has every single
- northern resident orca in it


01:00:25.750 --> 01:00:27.627
that lives on this coast.

01:00:27.627 --> 01:00:30.755
- There's a number of whales,
- especially in the A-clan,


01:00:30.755 --> 01:00:33.633
- that, of course, have
- a lot of stories behind them


01:00:33.633 --> 01:00:36.177
because I've seen them a lot.

01:00:36.177 --> 01:00:37.804
I mean, here is A46.

01:00:37.804 --> 01:00:40.348
- He is really the only one
- who has a page for himself,


01:00:40.348 --> 01:00:43.852
- and it shows down here the
- dark numbers of those whales,


01:00:43.852 --> 01:00:46.730
- shows that they all passed on,
- they're all dead,


01:00:46.730 --> 01:00:50.608
- and the only one
- left behind is A46.


01:00:50.608 --> 01:00:54.779
- I think the way that
- they interact with each other,


01:00:54.779 --> 01:00:58.783
- there is no
- aggression whatsoever.


01:00:58.783 --> 01:01:02.662
Not within their matriline,

01:01:02.662 --> 01:01:07.542
- not towards other
- closer-related pods,


01:01:07.542 --> 01:01:09.210
not towards a pod

01:01:09.210 --> 01:01:14.174
- that has a completely different
- acoustic tradition.


01:01:14.174 --> 01:01:16.718
It is a community.

01:01:16.718 --> 01:01:19.679
It's a community of whales

01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:22.891
sharing a coast as a habitat,

01:01:22.891 --> 01:01:25.435
and they arrange themselves

01:01:25.435 --> 01:01:29.189
- without any aggression,
- without any...


01:01:31.399 --> 01:01:34.361
Yeah, without fear

01:01:34.361 --> 01:01:37.530
of losing out or something.

01:01:39.157 --> 01:01:42.452
(Ravens calling)

01:01:43.453 --> 01:01:45.747
(Whale blowing)

01:01:55.965 --> 01:01:58.259
- It looks like
- a boating accident.


01:01:58.259 --> 01:02:00.261
It looks like, you know,

01:02:00.261 --> 01:02:05.058
- the bow of a boat
- just went straight over her.


01:02:05.058 --> 01:02:07.978
- That's what it looks like. I
- mean, this gash right in front
- of the dorsal,


01:02:07.978 --> 01:02:08.979
it's so deep.

01:02:08.979 --> 01:02:10.939
It looks healed, though.

01:02:10.939 --> 01:02:13.400
- I mean, she seems
- to be functioning OK.


01:02:20.240 --> 01:02:21.783
Is there a second one?

01:02:21.783 --> 01:02:24.995
- There was.
- It's right there.


01:02:24.995 --> 01:02:26.413
- And there it is!

01:02:26.413 --> 01:02:28.331
(Laughing)

01:02:28.331 --> 01:02:30.375
(Camera clicking)

01:02:30.375 --> 01:02:32.335
Oh no!

01:02:58.028 --> 01:03:02.657
(Ship chugging on speakers)

01:03:04.034 --> 01:03:06.703
(Chugging in distance)

01:03:09.456 --> 01:03:11.374
- It doesn't matter to a whale

01:03:11.374 --> 01:03:15.045
- whether or not it's an LNG
- tanker or a crude-oil tanker.


01:03:15.045 --> 01:03:17.297
The noise is going be the same.

01:03:17.297 --> 01:03:19.549
- The threats to the whales
- will be the same.


01:03:19.549 --> 01:03:22.469
- That's sort of what is hanging
- as a dark cloud


01:03:22.469 --> 01:03:24.137
over this whole area here.

01:03:24.137 --> 01:03:27.265
(Chugging)

01:03:34.773 --> 01:03:39.611
(Chugging)

01:03:49.913 --> 01:03:53.917
(Waves splashing on speakers)

01:03:53.917 --> 01:03:57.003
- The LNG industry
- convinced our government


01:03:57.003 --> 01:04:00.757
- that LNG is something
- that this province needs.


01:04:00.757 --> 01:04:03.843
"It creates jobs, it's clean,"

01:04:03.843 --> 01:04:08.848
- and all these myths
- which are basically not true,


01:04:08.848 --> 01:04:12.102
- but our political leaders
- bought into it.


01:04:12.102 --> 01:04:15.939
- And they have convinced
- First Nations on this coast


01:04:15.939 --> 01:04:17.649
to buy into that myth.

01:04:21.778 --> 01:04:24.322
So what I am left with, really,

01:04:24.322 --> 01:04:28.994
- is having my own personal
- opinion and gathering data to...


01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:33.331
to react to it.

01:04:34.874 --> 01:04:38.336
- Those different pressures
- from industry


01:04:38.336 --> 01:04:41.673
- on political leaders
- and First Nations


01:04:41.673 --> 01:04:43.758
have created an environment

01:04:43.758 --> 01:04:48.388
- where resistance to this project
- is basically close to zero.


01:05:57.874 --> 01:06:00.085
- The seaweed isn't just for us.

01:06:00.085 --> 01:06:04.881
- I mean, aside from relying on it
- for food, medicine,


01:06:04.881 --> 01:06:08.802
- anyways, there's this older
- process for doing the seaweed.


01:06:08.802 --> 01:06:10.887
Hartley Bays are known for that.

01:06:10.887 --> 01:06:14.599
- And people still rely
- on our community


01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:19.354
to have access to seaweed.

01:06:19.354 --> 01:06:23.692
- It also builds relationships
- between communities.


01:06:23.692 --> 01:06:26.778
- If you look at any
- of our old laws


01:06:26.778 --> 01:06:28.780
or any of our stories,

01:06:28.780 --> 01:06:31.866
- the meaning behind
- relationships,


01:06:31.866 --> 01:06:33.201
a lot of it has to do with

01:06:33.201 --> 01:06:35.120
- understanding
- where you come from.


01:06:35.120 --> 01:06:38.206
- You look at the shirts
- everyone is wearing around,


01:06:38.206 --> 01:06:40.041
"Say No to Tankers."

01:06:40.041 --> 01:06:44.504
It's this, I guess,

01:06:44.504 --> 01:06:47.757
- industrial dream of
- the current government


01:06:47.757 --> 01:06:51.845
- to put loads and loads
- of tankers


01:06:51.845 --> 01:06:54.764
coming out to this coast.

01:06:54.764 --> 01:06:56.599
What it is, really,

01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:59.394
- people who are completely
- disconnected with land,


01:06:59.394 --> 01:07:01.479
this land especially,

01:07:01.479 --> 01:07:05.317
- making decisions on land
- that doesn't belong to them,


01:07:05.317 --> 01:07:09.487
- lands that they have
- no spiritual connection to.


01:08:39.828 --> 01:08:42.706
(Bird chirping)

01:08:46.501 --> 01:08:48.712
- Every hour,
- I scan for 20 minutes,


01:08:48.712 --> 01:08:52.674
- and in one scan,
- I counted 35 humpback whales


01:08:52.674 --> 01:08:54.884
and 11 fin whales.

01:08:54.884 --> 01:08:56.803
In one scan.

01:08:56.803 --> 01:08:59.139
- And as I was scanning,
- and these whales,


01:08:59.139 --> 01:09:01.016
- it wasn't just
- the number of whales.


01:09:01.016 --> 01:09:03.101
It's what they were doing.

01:09:03.101 --> 01:09:04.352
It was very social.

01:09:04.352 --> 01:09:06.688
- There was a lot of
- breaching going on.


01:09:06.688 --> 01:09:09.607
- As a matter of fact,
- at one point in my scope,


01:09:09.607 --> 01:09:11.568
- I had 3 whales
- bubble-net feeding,


01:09:11.568 --> 01:09:14.070
- and in the distance,
- a whale breached.


01:09:14.070 --> 01:09:15.447
And as it was happening,

01:09:15.447 --> 01:09:17.532
- I'm thinking:
- "No one's going to believe me.


01:09:17.532 --> 01:09:20.535
- I need to get this on film
- because it's just incredible."


01:09:20.535 --> 01:09:24.039
- It's like this whole area is
- just one big bowl of whale food


01:09:24.039 --> 01:09:26.166
- for fin whales,
- humpbacks and orca.


01:09:26.166 --> 01:09:28.209
- At first,
- you're getting excited.


01:09:28.209 --> 01:09:29.794
You're like: "Oh my gosh!

01:09:29.794 --> 01:09:32.839
- I can't believe
- I'm seeing this many whales."


01:09:32.839 --> 01:09:34.799
But then it hits me

01:09:34.799 --> 01:09:37.635
that what if I'm doing this scan

01:09:37.635 --> 01:09:42.557
- and I have that many whales
- along the proposed tanker route


01:09:42.557 --> 01:09:45.101
and a tanker comes out of there?

01:09:45.101 --> 01:09:49.981
- What are the chances that that
- tanker is going to hit a whale?


01:09:49.981 --> 01:09:53.860
- So then, all of the sudden, that
- beautiful moment and that
- excitement turns into fear.


01:10:01.993 --> 01:10:06.289
- The tankers on the coast,
- they'll be coming.


01:10:06.289 --> 01:10:08.833
I said: "What can you do?"

01:10:08.833 --> 01:10:11.795
These big animals think

01:10:11.795 --> 01:10:15.048
- that they're safe
- in our territory?


01:10:15.048 --> 01:10:17.676
There's more and more of them.

01:10:17.676 --> 01:10:20.804
- I never did see a humpback whale
- when I was young.


01:10:20.804 --> 01:10:22.597
First time I saw it,

01:10:22.597 --> 01:10:26.059
- I thought there was some big
- monster coming out of the ocean.


01:10:26.059 --> 01:10:29.104
I had seen the killer whales,

01:10:29.104 --> 01:10:31.022
but the humpback whale?

01:10:31.022 --> 01:10:34.859
- And they didn't travel
- in family packs


01:10:34.859 --> 01:10:37.028
like the killers do.

01:10:37.028 --> 01:10:40.115
You know?

01:10:40.115 --> 01:10:44.911
- And my husband
- was really enthused


01:10:44.911 --> 01:10:49.916
about Hermann and Janie wanting

01:10:49.916 --> 01:10:52.377
- to study the whales
- in our territory,


01:10:52.377 --> 01:10:54.754
because we do belong...

01:10:54.754 --> 01:10:56.923
Granny's got her...

01:10:56.923 --> 01:10:59.092
Right. Right.

01:10:59.092 --> 01:11:03.346
- That's because
- I belong to that clan.


01:11:37.964 --> 01:11:40.008
- (Bunker): It's a male?

01:11:40.008 --> 01:11:43.261
- (Janie): It looks like a male.
- I don't think it's full-grown.


01:11:43.261 --> 01:11:45.096
- Well, I'm just so glad

01:11:45.096 --> 01:11:47.599
- that you guys were able to get
- such good ID pictures,


01:11:47.599 --> 01:11:49.934
- especially now that
- you've got the 2 dots.


01:11:49.934 --> 01:11:52.103
- That might make things
- a bit different.


01:11:52.103 --> 01:11:54.064
- Well, I am glad
- we came back yesterday.


01:11:54.064 --> 01:11:56.941
- I'm glad you found it, because
- if you hadn't come yesterday,


01:11:56.941 --> 01:11:59.110
this whale would've been gone.

01:11:59.110 --> 01:12:01.905
- When I went to get pics
- from the other side of it,


01:12:01.905 --> 01:12:03.615
it's just looking at you.

01:12:03.615 --> 01:12:04.908
- Yeah.

01:12:04.908 --> 01:12:07.494
- I said a silent thing
- to the Creator.


01:12:07.494 --> 01:12:11.122
- Good for you. I haven't done
- that yet, but I sure will.


01:12:12.791 --> 01:12:14.751
- First I thought it was Adidas
- for a second,


01:12:14.751 --> 01:12:17.587
- but then I remembered I just
- saw Adidas, like, 2 days ago.


01:12:17.587 --> 01:12:19.255
- That's the first thing I said.

01:12:19.255 --> 01:12:21.633
- I don't know if you
- heard me when I said:


01:12:21.633 --> 01:12:23.176
- "Oh my God,
- is that Adidas?


01:12:23.176 --> 01:12:25.303
- Is that what you thought?
- Isn't that interesting?


01:12:25.303 --> 01:12:27.013
- We thought it was
- the same whale.


01:12:27.013 --> 01:12:28.848
Ok, so...

01:12:28.848 --> 01:12:29.849
- Oh! No.

01:12:29.849 --> 01:12:31.059
- Oh, I go this way?

01:12:31.059 --> 01:12:32.185
- Scroll the other way.

01:12:37.899 --> 01:12:41.319
- See, I think that's
- the one I kept looking at,


01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:43.279
but the trailing edge....

01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:46.282
- The trailing edge
- is, what, up here...


01:12:46.282 --> 01:12:49.744
- Bring that to me again.

01:12:55.041 --> 01:12:57.168
- OK, that's the end.
- That's the last page.


01:12:57.168 --> 01:12:58.878
- I don't think it's
- in our ID book.


01:13:01.548 --> 01:13:03.258
I wouldn't mind getting a sample

01:13:03.258 --> 01:13:05.093
- to see if that's
- an actual tongue.


01:13:05.093 --> 01:13:06.845
'Cause if we took a sample,

01:13:06.845 --> 01:13:10.181
- somebody else could check
- that sample by the tissue


01:13:10.181 --> 01:13:13.268
- and know whether it's tongue
- or stomach or lung.


01:14:07.197 --> 01:14:10.492
- The Gitxaala were some of
- the first Tsimshian


01:14:10.492 --> 01:14:14.162
- who saw white people come
- to the Northwest coast.


01:14:14.162 --> 01:14:18.750
- And they saw these big
- superhuman people


01:14:18.750 --> 01:14:21.753
in these big ships with wings,

01:14:21.753 --> 01:14:25.548
- and they came in to where
- the Gitxaala were watching.


01:14:25.548 --> 01:14:28.802
- And they got scared,
- so they hid in the woods,


01:14:28.802 --> 01:14:31.596
- and they looked out
- and they watched.


01:14:31.596 --> 01:14:35.934
- And this big canoe dropped
- this big anchor into the ocean,


01:14:35.934 --> 01:14:38.728
and all this noise was made.

01:14:38.728 --> 01:14:41.648
- And they dropped these
- little canoes off the side,


01:14:41.648 --> 01:14:44.526
and they had big long paddles,

01:14:44.526 --> 01:14:46.987
- and then all the paddles
- were up in the air.


01:14:46.987 --> 01:14:49.572
- And when they dropped it
- into the water,


01:14:49.572 --> 01:14:53.118
- and they pushed it away
- from the side of the big boat,


01:14:53.118 --> 01:14:55.578
- all the paddles
- were pulling together,


01:14:55.578 --> 01:14:57.288
and they came up on our beach.

01:14:57.288 --> 01:14:59.749
And so began colonization.

01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:34.659
- For 4 years,
- things were on a high here,


01:15:34.659 --> 01:15:37.996
- and now they're going down
- quite quickly.


01:15:37.996 --> 01:15:40.373
So there's a hunger for it.

01:15:40.373 --> 01:15:41.750
And I'm not sure.

01:15:41.750 --> 01:15:44.127
- I'm not sure
- if anything will happen.


01:15:44.127 --> 01:15:46.546
And that's hard for me to watch.

01:15:46.546 --> 01:15:48.840
My son just lost his job,

01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:51.635
so then it's real to me too.

01:15:51.635 --> 01:15:55.972
- If he doesn't find a job
- in the community,


01:15:55.972 --> 01:15:59.267
- he'll be separated
- from our family.


01:15:59.267 --> 01:16:00.977
And we love being here.

01:16:00.977 --> 01:16:03.647
- I know he loves
- being here with us.


01:16:11.863 --> 01:16:13.323
- OK, punch it there,

01:16:13.323 --> 01:16:15.492
- and then I'll go check
- the other side.


01:16:15.492 --> 01:16:17.494
I don't think we're even...

01:16:17.494 --> 01:16:19.871
No, not even close to the seal.

01:16:19.871 --> 01:16:23.291
- I have a test drive to go
- for one more vehicle.


01:16:23.291 --> 01:16:25.085
- We just put
- all the new parts in,


01:16:25.085 --> 01:16:26.795
- so we're just taking it
- for a ride


01:16:26.795 --> 01:16:28.505
- to make sure that
- everything's good


01:16:28.505 --> 01:16:30.256
- before we give it back
- to the customer.


01:16:35.053 --> 01:16:37.806
- So, hopefully, we don't end up
- walking back to the shop.


01:16:37.806 --> 01:16:39.140
- (Mirjam):
- Hopefully, yes!


01:16:39.140 --> 01:16:40.141
- Never a good sign.

01:16:40.141 --> 01:16:41.476
(Chuckling)

01:16:41.476 --> 01:16:43.895
- For me,
- it's really interesting


01:16:43.895 --> 01:16:47.273
- that a mayor is so busy
- with his own business.


01:16:47.273 --> 01:16:49.192
Is that always like that?

01:16:49.192 --> 01:16:51.736
- Mayor in Kitimat,
- of a small town, of course,


01:16:51.736 --> 01:16:53.113
is never a full-time job.

01:16:53.113 --> 01:16:55.323
So they always have another job,

01:16:55.323 --> 01:16:59.703
- or they're, you know, old enough
- or half semi-retired possibly.


01:16:59.703 --> 01:17:02.622
- I'm nowhere near
- that stage yet, so...


01:17:02.622 --> 01:17:06.960
- So, this, of course, is where
- LNG Canada will have their camp.


01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:11.631
- Anywhere from
- 4,500 up to 7,000 beds.


01:17:11.631 --> 01:17:14.301
- So that's going to be
- the campsite?


01:17:14.301 --> 01:17:17.637
- This is where
- the campsite's gonna be, yeah.


01:17:17.637 --> 01:17:20.223
- And where are
- the working stations?


01:17:20.223 --> 01:17:22.100
- So, there's gonna be
- 2 of them.


01:17:22.100 --> 01:17:24.811
We'll go, and I'll show you one.

01:17:24.811 --> 01:17:28.106
- So, this is called
- the Hospital Beach,


01:17:28.106 --> 01:17:30.859
- and just down there
- is the boat launch, but...


01:17:30.859 --> 01:17:32.694
So, for LNG Canada,

01:17:32.694 --> 01:17:36.823
- that's the old Eurocan Pulp
- and Paper Terminal over there.


01:17:36.823 --> 01:17:40.035
Their shipping terminal.

01:17:40.035 --> 01:17:42.454
- And that's what LNG Canada
- is gonna be using


01:17:42.454 --> 01:17:44.372
for the LNG carriers, of course.

01:17:44.372 --> 01:17:46.541
- We're very confident
- it's going to happen.


01:17:46.541 --> 01:17:49.961
- It's not a matter of if.
- It's just a matter of when.


01:17:49.961 --> 01:17:51.963
And, hopefully, late next year,

01:17:51.963 --> 01:17:55.634
- they get their final investment
- decision and away they go.


01:18:04.893 --> 01:18:07.395
- So is the car...

01:18:07.395 --> 01:18:10.982
- The car is good.
- It's ready to be returned back.


01:18:35.173 --> 01:18:37.008
(Dog barking)

01:18:39.761 --> 01:18:41.471
(Barking)

01:18:41.471 --> 01:18:43.723
(Nicole talking, indistinct)

01:18:44.975 --> 01:18:47.060
- (Bunker):
- What's that?


01:18:47.060 --> 01:18:48.728
(Talking indistinctly)

01:18:50.146 --> 01:18:51.940
(Man on radio, indistinct)

01:18:51.940 --> 01:18:54.943
- Before we came up,
- somebody was up ahead of us.


01:19:00.657 --> 01:19:02.325
- Were they hunters?

01:19:02.325 --> 01:19:04.661
(Man on radio, indistinct)

01:19:04.661 --> 01:19:06.204
- Uh-oh!

01:19:08.581 --> 01:19:11.960
- (Man 1): Did you seen he
- had any bear on the boat?


01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:15.463
- (Man 2):n I didn't
- notice anything, no.


01:19:15.463 --> 01:19:19.509
- Stop 'em?
- I'm gonna stop 'em.


01:19:19.509 --> 01:19:21.428
- Oh, they probably
- won't stop.


01:19:26.141 --> 01:19:28.393
- Hi! How is it going?

01:19:28.393 --> 01:19:30.562
- Pretty good!
- How are you?


01:19:30.562 --> 01:19:35.400
- Good. Are you
- a guide outfitter?


01:19:35.400 --> 01:19:37.068
- No!
- Just...


01:19:37.068 --> 01:19:39.738
- We're just going up,
- kind of just watching for bears.


01:19:39.738 --> 01:19:41.865
- We're from Gitga'at
- Nation, Hartley Bay.


01:19:41.865 --> 01:19:44.117
- OK, yeah. No, we've
- never been here before.


01:19:44.117 --> 01:19:47.037
- We just kind of
- came up to have a look.


01:19:47.037 --> 01:19:48.663
- Mind if I just
- get your name, though,


01:19:48.663 --> 01:19:50.457
- and information
- to pass on at home


01:19:50.457 --> 01:19:52.334
- to the guardians
- who monitor the territory?


01:19:52.334 --> 01:19:53.418
- OK!

01:19:53.418 --> 01:19:55.045
- Yeah, we're no
- bear hunters


01:19:55.045 --> 01:19:57.339
- or anything like that,
- OK, not even close.


01:19:57.339 --> 01:19:59.966
- We had problems in here
- before with bear hunters.


01:19:59.966 --> 01:20:02.135
- They were coming up
- here, shooting bears


01:20:02.135 --> 01:20:05.221
- and just leaving the carcasses,
- just taking the paws.


01:20:05.221 --> 01:20:06.264
- OK! Oh, I hear ya.

01:20:06.264 --> 01:20:07.849
- Totally against
- all that stuff.


01:20:07.849 --> 01:20:08.850
- Good.
- OK.


01:20:08.850 --> 01:20:10.310
- OK, thank you very much.

01:20:10.310 --> 01:20:11.519
- Nice meeting you guys.

01:20:11.519 --> 01:20:12.729
- Yes, have a good day.

01:20:12.729 --> 01:20:14.189
- Yeah, thank you.

01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:18.401
- Oh, they're not hunters.

01:20:18.401 --> 01:20:20.487
- We just stopped
- and talked to them.


01:20:20.487 --> 01:20:22.781
- They said they were up here
- taking pictures,


01:20:22.781 --> 01:20:24.407
checking out the fish.

01:20:24.407 --> 01:20:25.909
(Man on radio, indistinct)

01:20:25.909 --> 01:20:28.036
- In reality,
- we can't do anything.


01:20:28.036 --> 01:20:31.289
- We can't kick them out of here.
- We can't tell them...


01:20:31.289 --> 01:20:33.291
- You could tell them
- how you feel.


01:20:33.291 --> 01:20:35.627
- If they were like, say,
- grizzly bear hunters,


01:20:35.627 --> 01:20:40.090
- and they have guests on board,
- you just tell them:


01:20:40.090 --> 01:20:43.343
"OK, we don't want...

01:20:43.343 --> 01:20:46.805
- "We would like it if you don't
- hunt grizzlies or bears


01:20:46.805 --> 01:20:48.556
in our territory."

01:20:48.556 --> 01:20:51.184
- And for the most part,
- they'll say OK and respect it


01:20:51.184 --> 01:20:53.269
- and go move on
- to somewhere else.


01:20:54.270 --> 01:20:56.064
I don't know.

01:20:56.064 --> 01:20:59.943
- But they weren't hunters.
- I mean, they say.


01:21:29.889 --> 01:21:33.476
- I just recognized
- that it's not recording


01:21:33.476 --> 01:21:34.978
for some reason.

01:21:42.277 --> 01:21:44.529
I'm trying to figure out why.

01:21:45.530 --> 01:21:47.407
Wow!

01:21:47.407 --> 01:21:50.410
(Whale singing)

01:21:55.582 --> 01:21:58.126
(Singing continues)

01:22:00.837 --> 01:22:03.131
(Whale grunting)

01:22:16.061 --> 01:22:18.355
Whoa!

01:22:18.355 --> 01:22:22.317
- I could feel
- the vibration through my body.


01:22:22.317 --> 01:22:25.028
(Singing and grunting continues)

01:22:42.712 --> 01:22:46.299
(Camera clicking)

01:22:46.299 --> 01:22:47.884
(Chuckling)

01:22:50.637 --> 01:22:52.430
That was Misty.

01:22:52.430 --> 01:22:54.808
- That was Whiskey?

01:22:54.808 --> 01:22:56.434
- Misty.

01:22:56.434 --> 01:22:58.728
- Actually, she's probably
- gonna go join


01:22:58.728 --> 01:23:00.605
that bubble-net feeding group,

01:23:00.605 --> 01:23:03.108
- because she is usually
- a part of that group.


01:23:05.443 --> 01:23:07.654
Oh! She's got a little one!

01:23:07.654 --> 01:23:09.656
(Camera clicking)

01:23:11.825 --> 01:23:13.451
If someone was to ask me,

01:23:13.451 --> 01:23:15.745
- "What is the ultimate goal
- of your career?"


01:23:15.745 --> 01:23:18.790
- to me, it would be that
- this is protected for whales


01:23:18.790 --> 01:23:22.711
- as a marine protected zone,
- critical habitat, everything.


01:23:22.711 --> 01:23:25.839
- Throw it on the table and
- protect this area for whales.


01:23:32.887 --> 01:23:34.973
(Whale singing on speakers)

01:23:35.974 --> 01:23:37.517
- Thank you.

01:23:43.315 --> 01:23:46.568
(Singing continues)

01:23:54.868 --> 01:23:56.494
Oh!

01:23:56.494 --> 01:23:58.121
(Chuckling)

01:24:03.126 --> 01:24:05.587
- I think I was realizing it,
- but in my dream.


01:24:05.587 --> 01:24:07.797
- Yeah, there are killer whales
- out there.


01:24:12.844 --> 01:24:15.013
- There's a humpback too.

01:24:16.014 --> 01:24:17.891
It's a humpback as well.

01:24:18.892 --> 01:24:21.061
(Singing continues)

01:24:21.061 --> 01:24:23.063
It's 2 groups.

01:24:23.063 --> 01:24:25.523
"Wee-a." A5's.

01:24:35.325 --> 01:24:37.952
- Katie, could you
- put your head outside


01:24:37.952 --> 01:24:40.163
- and see if you can hear
- any blows?


01:24:40.163 --> 01:24:41.831
- Sure!

01:24:56.888 --> 01:24:59.015
(Whale blowing)

01:25:03.353 --> 01:25:06.272
- (Hermann): I'm one of
- the very fortunate people


01:25:06.272 --> 01:25:09.859
- who has been able to watch these
- whales for such a long time,


01:25:09.859 --> 01:25:11.611
following their family lives.

01:25:11.611 --> 01:25:14.990
And I'm still thinking

01:25:14.990 --> 01:25:19.953
- that these whales are in
- a conscious social life.


01:25:19.953 --> 01:25:21.746
They are ahead of us.

01:25:21.746 --> 01:25:24.582
- And I think that's something,
- for us humans,


01:25:24.582 --> 01:25:26.793
- we don't really like
- to hear that,


01:25:26.793 --> 01:25:30.380
- you know, because we still have
- this image in our head


01:25:30.380 --> 01:25:35.343
- that we are on top there and
- everything else is an animal


01:25:35.343 --> 01:25:37.929
and has no rights whatsoever.

01:25:37.929 --> 01:25:42.600
- Everything is dependent
- on our willing to protect it.


01:25:45.603 --> 01:25:50.108
(Singing continues)

01:26:38.615 --> 01:26:42.285
(Cawing)

01:26:52.921 --> 01:26:54.923
- So great to see you.

01:26:54.923 --> 01:26:56.383
- I know, huh?

01:26:56.383 --> 01:26:59.010
- Man, I wish we made it down.
- I really do.


01:27:03.473 --> 01:27:06.267
- Ah! And who knows?
- Let's work on next year.


01:27:06.267 --> 01:27:07.560
- Yeah!

01:27:07.560 --> 01:27:08.812
- Let's look
- forward to it, OK?


01:27:12.774 --> 01:27:14.359
Bunker, look! Awesome!

01:27:14.359 --> 01:27:17.320
- OK, you're done.
- OK, go!


01:27:17.320 --> 01:27:20.699
- You'll be back.
- I know you will.


01:27:23.284 --> 01:27:24.995
There they go!

01:27:27.080 --> 01:27:28.832
- Whoo-whee!

01:27:42.887 --> 01:27:47.600
(Camera clicking)

01:27:59.029 --> 01:28:02.449
- Whale survey with
- floating sleeping whales.


01:28:02.449 --> 01:28:03.867
(Chuckling)

01:28:08.663 --> 01:28:11.291
- Yeah, there's 2 of them
- fast asleep side by side.


01:28:11.291 --> 01:28:12.542
(Whale blowing)

01:28:12.542 --> 01:28:14.377
- Oh, and there's
- another one over there.


01:28:14.377 --> 01:28:15.545
They're all waking up.

01:28:27.682 --> 01:28:30.769
- It's almost impossible
- to see them.


01:28:30.769 --> 01:28:34.272
- (Mirjam): Tankers have
- so-called spotters, right?


01:28:34.272 --> 01:28:36.316
Would they be able to see them?

01:28:36.316 --> 01:28:39.444
- Well, I don't know.
- It depends on how good they are.


01:28:39.444 --> 01:28:41.738
- That's a pretty
- hard thing to see


01:28:41.738 --> 01:28:44.866
- because you've got dark whales
- in dark water.


01:28:44.866 --> 01:28:47.619
- And it depends on
- the lighting conditions.


01:28:47.619 --> 01:28:50.664
- If it's a dark day,
- you would never see that.


01:29:00.507 --> 01:29:02.634
(Whale blowing)

01:29:17.524 --> 01:29:20.986
- So, he might breach
- really close to the boat.


01:29:28.368 --> 01:29:31.746
- It doesn't hurt to walk around
- a little bit.


01:29:45.969 --> 01:29:49.472
- Janie, what do you feel
- at such a place


01:29:49.472 --> 01:29:51.224
at the end of the season

01:29:51.224 --> 01:29:53.393
with sleeping, floating whales?

01:29:53.393 --> 01:29:56.646
- Well, I always feel the same
- when I'm with whales.


01:29:56.646 --> 01:29:58.565
I just feel present.

01:29:58.565 --> 01:30:02.527
- To me, whether they're sleeping,
- or breaching or feeding,


01:30:02.527 --> 01:30:05.780
I just feel connected to them

01:30:05.780 --> 01:30:09.284
- and very present
- with the moment.


01:30:11.995 --> 01:30:15.999
- I feel, um...
- There's another word...


01:30:17.709 --> 01:30:21.296
Focused. Very focused, yeah.

01:30:40.190 --> 01:30:43.902
- It clears your mind
- of everything. Yeah.


01:31:04.756 --> 01:31:07.300
- Could you imagine
- to do something else?


01:31:07.300 --> 01:31:08.301
- No.

01:31:08.301 --> 01:31:10.053
(Chuckling)

01:31:10.053 --> 01:31:12.722
- I couldn't imagine
- doing anything else.


01:31:19.187 --> 01:31:22.732
- I think at the end
- of the season,


01:31:23.733 --> 01:31:25.735
there is a...

01:31:26.778 --> 01:31:28.446
a sen--

01:31:28.446 --> 01:31:30.156
Yeah, at the end of the season,

01:31:30.156 --> 01:31:33.660
- there's a sense of
- not loneliness, but...


01:31:35.537 --> 01:31:38.832
- You know,
- I know that in about--


01:31:38.832 --> 01:31:41.960
(Water splashing)

01:31:43.378 --> 01:31:45.672
- Turn around, Mirjam!
- Turn around!


01:31:45.672 --> 01:31:48.425
(Mirjam gasping, chuckling)

01:31:56.975 --> 01:31:57.976
(Chuckling)

01:31:57.976 --> 01:31:58.977
I'm just like--

01:31:58.977 --> 01:32:00.729
(Blowing)

01:32:03.356 --> 01:32:06.067
(Chuckling)

01:32:06.067 --> 01:32:08.653
- The whole tail,
- his whole body, was up!


01:32:08.653 --> 01:32:09.946
And I'm like...

01:32:10.947 --> 01:32:12.782
Oh boy!

01:32:16.328 --> 01:32:18.079
(Chuckling)

01:32:18.079 --> 01:32:20.498
Hello!

01:32:48.985 --> 01:32:51.071
(Bird calling in distance)

01:32:53.573 --> 01:32:55.492
- What would the world lose

01:32:55.492 --> 01:32:58.912
- if these whales
- would disappear again?


01:33:00.747 --> 01:33:04.167
- Well, I think our oceans
- would be very empty.


01:33:04.167 --> 01:33:06.378
There would be...

01:33:07.879 --> 01:33:09.673
It'd be a really lonely ocean

01:33:09.673 --> 01:33:12.676
- without the sounds of whales
- under the water.


01:33:12.676 --> 01:33:14.594
It would be a very...

01:33:14.594 --> 01:33:20.100
- Yeah, it'd be a really lonely,
- lonely planet without them.


01:33:58.388 --> 01:34:01.433
♪ ♪ ♪

01:36:25.201 --> 01:36:29.956
Closed Captions:MELS

01:36:41.676 --> 01:36:43.887
(Whale singing)

01:37:05.075 --> 01:37:07.827
(Singing continues)

01:37:27.931 --> 01:37:29.599
(Whale grunting)

01:37:34.104 --> 01:37:37.983
(Singing continues)