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MAN:
Yeah, that\"s a little bit larger
than I expected,

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but I guess it makes sense that
that has to be bigger

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than the actual chip,
so I \"m sure it won\" t hurt.

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It\"s just a poke,
but look at the size of that.

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So we have 3 identical chips.

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All right, here\"s the
disclaimer, all right.

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(Laughing)

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So the first thing that they put
on the disclaimer here is that

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they don\"t sell tags
to be implant tags.

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\"We do not advise or encourage
users to implant our ID tags.\"

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These tags are not sold as
medical products

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and are not sanitized
for medical use.

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It\"s a Trossen robotics sticker

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reminding me
that they actually...

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The applications of this product
are for robotics

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and not for
implanting into humans.

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Well, I\"m sorry Trossen, that\"s
exactly what we\"re doing today.

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(Laughing)

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MAN:
As far as putting
an implant in for people,

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it certainly well beyond the
scope of my expertise.

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I can\"t imagine it would be very
much different though,

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as mammals are mammals and
medicine in very many

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respects are very similar
between veterinary medicine and

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human medicine.

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MAN:
Is it going
to hurt him?

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Well, he might notice it,

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but usually when they\"re
a little bit nervous,

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that is to our advantage,

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so they usually don\"t
really react at all.

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I can just pinch his fur

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and you can think
about something else.

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(Dog whining)

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There, it\"s in.

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So he did cry a little bit,

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but really, he didn\"t
even really react that much.

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Eh, what a good boy, eh?

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Anybody who has this transponder

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will call
the 1-800 number

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to find out who\"s dog
belongs to this number.

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What a good girl.

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(Beeping)

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That\"s her tag number.

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Oh, let\"s do it again.

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(Beeping)

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My cat has an RF ID chip.

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I chipped my cat
because my cat can\"t talk.

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And so I want,
if my cat is lost,

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someone will be able to run a
reader over her neck

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and find out, you know,
my name, my phone number

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so I can be contacted.

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All right, it\"s real different
doing it within people.

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MAN:
About 20 years ago, we invented
the implantable RF chip.

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Today, in humans
you know it as Verichip.

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Verichip Corporation brands
itself in the marketplace

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as the RF ID company for people.

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RF ID stands for radio frequency
identification technology.

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What we hope
is standard protocol,

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just like it is in the
clinic or vet clinics.

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They run this over the arm,
just like I did,

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it pulls up that unique
16 digit identification number

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and through a port
on the bottom,

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it would connect to a laptop

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and immediately pull up
all of my records.

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What inspired the idea
is when the firemen

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and first responders
at 911 were literally

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going into
the World Trade Centers

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and taking markers and writing
either their badge number

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or Social Security number on
their arms.

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One of the people
on our staff called me up

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and said hey, you know,
this is exactly what Verichip...

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We didn\"t call it Verichip
at that point...

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But this is exactly what
Verichip can do to help first

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responders and then we started
to talk about medical

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applications as well.

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So in disaster was really
the origins for the product.

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MAN:
I suck!

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MARK
I\"m actually wondering about
recovery time with my hand.

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Apparently if
it\"s inserted correctly,

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you never feel it.

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Like, you actually
have to search for it, right?

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Like, you know, after, you know,

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whatever your little scar
and stuff goes away,

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you would never
notice it was there.

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Like, you can\"t
find it on someone.

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I still might want
to do the light thing

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because it is cool
to walk in the room

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and everything turns on,
but definitely the safe...

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I like the safe idea
because I do have some stuff

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I\"d like to put in there

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and the front door for sure too

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and probably computer login.

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Finally got this.

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This is Amal Graafstra\"s book

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about all the different RF ID
toys and applications.

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I was speaking
with Amal on the phone

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about what would actually be a
reasonable or a good usage

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for the RF ID thing.

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I was asking him about the
amount of time it takes

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from, you know, you getting in
range of the RF ID reader

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to it opening and he said it\"s
instant. It\"s like...

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(Snaps fingers)

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You know. I guess speed of
sound, pretty much.

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He was saying that he pulled
apart his motorcycle

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and pretty much rebuilt
the whole steering column

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and everything and I think I\"m
going to do the same thing

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for a bike lock.
So basically, you know,

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instead of fumbling for a key,
which oddly enough,

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I actually always do,
you know, you\"re in the rain or something,
you can just physically wrap

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your hand around it and actually
just get close to it.

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It would unlock.

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BRUCE:
Mostly it\"s novelties today

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where people do it as an
authentication mechanism

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and you can wave your wrist at a
door and it opens, right?

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I mean, that\"s kind of cool.
You think that\"s neat.

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But unfortunately, that does
enable people to track you.

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Understand something
about the RF ID issue.

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All the privacy issues.

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They have nothing
to do with technology.

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The technology is passive.

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It just sits there.

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It can be used any way you
choose to use it.

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This one was different.

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This one was 3x13,
so it was a scalpel

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and that was a different
type of injection

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but the same thing.

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Injected it with
a numbing agent and,

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you know, made the cut
and I was like, \"oh, wow\"

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and they jammed it in there

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and forced it and kind of
had to wiggle it

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around a little bit.

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And then you felt that?

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Well, I felt it,
but it wasn\"t painful.

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Just weird because
something\"s in you?

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Yeah, it was a lot
of grinding around

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and then finally they
kind of closed it

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with skin glue,
which was super glue,

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and then I figured oh,
this is going to be bruised,

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this is going to hurt.
Nothing.

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You can kind of see it
come up a little bit

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when I grab stuff.

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MARK:
Have you rode a
bike with it in your hand?

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AMAL:
Oh yeah.

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I start my motorcycle with it.

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I\"m kind of exploring
the whole concept of,

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like, privacy and personal
identification in this

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kind of new society, I guess.

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You know, like,
because when you\"re born

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you get all your fingers and
toes printed,

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you get a blood test

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and it would be no small leap
to get a DNA sample from that

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and, you know, where does it...

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I mean, do you get
entered into the system

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right when you\"re born? MARK:
You\"re freaking
me out.

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You want to scan a barcode

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but there is consent
there because...

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You know what\"s happening.

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Yeah. You have to put it up
there and it\"s done.

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Well, RF ID can be
read without consent.

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So it\"s all about consent and

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that actually kind of,
there\"s the same vein

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as what people
are concerned about

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with RF ID and clothing.

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It\"s not necessarily
the government

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that they\"re worried about.

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They\"re worried
about uncontrolled,

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wild, wild west, you know,

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retailers that you buy Nikes

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in a Nike store and you
walk into Footlocker,

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they read the tag and go
\"this guy buys Nikes

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and he\"s
been here before.\"

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Nice. Check it out.

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It\"s like they really
do have everything.

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Yeah, it\"s pretty amazing.

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It\"s one of
those places too,
if you come all the time,
you\"ll see all the new shit. AMAL:
Yeah. I\"ll just look
for like a spool of wire

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and soldering iron
if there\"s a cheap one around.

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Solder.

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Soldering iron would be...

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It would be on this aisle.

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Spool of wire.
Spool of wire.

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What could you want
to put on this bottle?

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AMAL:
You know, essential oils.

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I need some tea tree now.

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Hey, hey.

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Eh, oh?

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We\"re going to
put it in with this.

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Nice.

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I had a huge key ring

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with tons of keys
and I just hated the fact

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I was looking at the keys and
I\"m going this is retarded.

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This is, you know,
18th century technology.

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MARK:
Dungeon Master. AMAL:
Yeah, it\"s pieces of metal that
are carved in a specific shape

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that identify me.
That\"s all they do.

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With all this technology,
know that it\"s me.

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Just know that it\"s me
and let me in.

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And so I looked at biometrics

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and I looked at
all these other options

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and I said well,
RF ID is great because,

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you know, boom, you\"re in
and I thought well, pet chips.

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They\"re RF ID

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and I kind of read around
and of course Verichip

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was already getting
people implanted.

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I worked with a bunch of doctors
at the time

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and I said \"hey, anybody
interested in

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doing this procedure?\"

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and a cosmetic surgeon was like,

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\"sure, I\'ll do it. No problem.\"

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And I\"ll even say
right on your tape there,

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there those in our company that
four and five years ago

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tried to convince me
that we should

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start a marketing campaign like,
it\"s hip to be chipped,

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you know, related to tattoos or
piercings or things

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to that effect,
and I said absolutely not.

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This is a medical device
that is approved

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in order to save people\"s lives.

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This is not some fad
that\"s going to

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run through the country. Although it could,
that \"s not what we\" re about.

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We\"re about a medical device and
we\"re going to focus on that.

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Their technology
is extremely unpopular.

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People don\"t want
a microchip in their arms,

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they don\"t want a hypodermic
syringe coming at them,

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they instinctively,
I think, feel

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that there is something wrong

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with the idea
of becoming scannable

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like a barcoded package of meat.

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Whenever you\"re looking
at a new technology,

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you have to ask yourself
what is the potential

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of this technology
and do I trust the people

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who are deploring it and using
it to remain within bounds.

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No one\"s forcing you
to get a chip.

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You\"re only getting a chip if
you want to have a chip

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and just as with any other
medical device,

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you as the patient will
decide if that medical device

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is useful with you.

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MAN: It only took about 10 minutes. I went in there,
they gave me a shot of linocaine right here in my arm

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and the doctor brought
out this large sized syringe

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and I was a little panicky
when I saw that.

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But then he showed me the size
of the chip, he says

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\"you won\"t feel a thing.\"
And within 10 seconds,

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it was in and I didn\"t even
know he had it.

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He had put it in.
He had put it in.

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Didn\"t feel a thing.

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The chief of police, John
Schmiddick knew I had diabetes.

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He said \"Bill, it would be
a good idea if you had it

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put in because of your
medical condition.\"

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And he had the chip
implanted in himself

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and it really became a life
saving tool for me

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on May 31st, 2006.

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I wound up in pursuit of a
stolen motor vehicle

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and I was wandering through the
streets of Teaneck, New Jersey

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and the brakes
on the police car failed.

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I wound up hitting a tree,

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probably about 50 to 60 miles an
hour. The airbag did not deploy

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and I sustained neck, head and
back injuries

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as a result of that.

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I wasn\"t unconscious, but I was
in a state where I really

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couldn\"t speak and they rushed
me over to Hackensack

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University Medical Center and in
the emergency room, they kept

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trying to talk to me and I
really couldn\"t explain to them

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exactly what was going on so I
just pointed to my arm and then

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they scanned my arm and it
pulled all my information up.

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They had all the medications I
was on, my medical condition,

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next of kin information,
everything.

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They were able to call people
and let everybody know

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what was going on and it
definitely aided

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the way I was treated,

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because they realized
that I had diabetes

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and they were giving me a
glucose drip

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that they had to monitor my
blood sugar.

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Well, I think the first thing
that anybody who is considering

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a microchip implant should be
familiar with is the literature

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that links those devices with
aggressive malignant tumours,

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sarcomas, in animals.

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The animals actually developed
a tumour around the microchip

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so if you envision
a mouse or a rat,

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you remove a tumour in some
cases the size of a plum from

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their bodies, slice it open and
right within the middle of the

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tumour is the gleaming
microchip implant.

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Obviously, when the AP article
came out in September of last

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year saying that our chips
caused cancer, we had a major

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problem around this office and
we faced the problem and we

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looked into that problem and
there is no proof whatsoever

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that these chips cause cancer in
human beings.

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There are several thousand human
beings around the world

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that have it, including myself.

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We have no complaints whatsoever
of any type of cancer

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that has been caused as a result
of our chips.

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In fact, once the AP article
came out, which was fuelled,

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by the way, by a woman named
Katherine Albrecht

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who is completely against
RF technology

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and has written books
on how RF technology

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is going to ruin the world.

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The FDA, when they were
asked about it,

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stated the same thing
that I just stated,

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that they\"ve received no
negative reports

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and they stand behind the
approval of the product.

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WOMAN:
The next number is O-71!

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WOMAN:
You know,
I was in denial myself.

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I didn\"t want to admit
that he needed help.

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Bob has dementia.
It\"s fairly advanced.

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He\"s had it now
for about 12 years.

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He was a former
judge in Michigan.

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One morning we were getting
ready to go to daycare

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and we got out in the driveway

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and at that time he had
a little scooter,

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one of those scooters
that the older people use,

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and we were in the driveway,

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I was getting him in the car.

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He got on the scooter,

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he had my car keys
around his neck

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and off he went.

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They numbed it up and put it in.
It was extremely quick.

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When we\"d been
to the emergency room,

00:14:11.959 --> 00:14:14.959
it was right before
they put the chip in.

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Bob had passed out
and he was unresponsive.

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We got to the hospital
and I was so flustered,

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I couldn\"t his...
Anything.

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I couldn\"t remember his meds

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and at that time, I sure wish

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we would have had it in.

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Sure, it\'s 1 o\'clock.

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Yes. Well, I think for many millions
of people around the globe...

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There are lots of reasons
to resist

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getting a microchip implant that
are philosophical,

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that have to do with human
dignity and for many millions

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of people around the globe there
is an additional reason

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and that has to do with sort of
the march that society

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seems to be taking towards
something that was prophesized

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2000 years ago in the book of
Revelation.

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And in there is a reference to
the mark of the beast,

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same as when you hear about
music and literature,

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and it talks about the time when
all people will be forced

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to get a mark in their right
hand or their forehead

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without which they will be
unable to buy or sell.

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One parent ahs just
e-mailed me and was like,

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\"you\"re the
devil\"s mouthpiece.\"

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And I\"m like, \"What?\" I thought
it was a religious thing, right?

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Because I\"ve got a lot of
those... So I\"m like...

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And I always respond very
politely

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and I try to engage in a
conversation, because they never want
to you know, converse,

00:15:24.959 --> 00:15:27.334
they just want to blast
and then scurry away

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and so you, they\"re like
\"you\"re the devil\"s mouthpiece.\"

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and, like, \"What do you mean?
Let\"s have a talk about it.\"

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and it turned out to be a parent
that was angry

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because their kid... They thought
their kid was going to hell

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because they got
the mark of the beast

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and they were under ageand they just
got it because it was cool, right?

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And they said, \"Well, I\"m a
parent. I should be in control
of this, not you.\"

00:15:46.542 --> 00:15:48.958
I\"m like,
\"I\"m not in control of your kid.

00:15:48.959 --> 00:15:50.958
You should be
in control of your kid.

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Like, but why are you talking to
me? It \"s misdirected.\"

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MYTHBUSTERS ANNOUNCER:
Before the team implanted an RF
ID tag into one unlucky

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volunteer and scanned them with
an MRI to see if the implant

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explodes...

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I\"m freaking out at this stuff.
It seems so stupid.

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Look at this.
Look at this.

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That, you know,
was in him for over a minute.

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Look at that.
Two minutes.

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As far as like, a hobbyist level, it will be
something I look back when no one has them anymore

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in 30 years and say,
\"yeah, I was one of those people

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with the silly
RF ID chip in.\"

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MAN:
So you do think it\"s cool? MARK:
I do think it\"s cool but it\"s...

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I don \"t know, I think it\" s one
of those kind of...

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It would be kind of a good line
in the sand that\"s drawn.

00:16:37.375 --> 00:16:38.750
I remember when I
was a little kid,

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I read it in Omni magazine
and I think it was Ray Bradbury

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that had this quote that said,

00:16:42.585 --> 00:16:45.625
\"by the time that we\" re smart
enough to know how to put things

00:16:45.626 --> 00:16:47.834
like chips in ourselves
or have, you know,

00:16:47.959 --> 00:16:48.959
have mechanical modifications,

00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:50.958
we\"ll be smart
enough also to know

00:16:50.959 --> 00:16:54.834
that we should never do it.\" And
I think that\"s probably true.

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KEVIN:
It was an attempt to try and
extrapolate from things

00:17:10.125 --> 00:17:13.291
that are known in the
surveillance studies literature

00:17:13.292 --> 00:17:17.249
or the privacy literature and
reaching a mass audience

00:17:17.250 --> 00:17:20.958
and sort of saying look at it,
this is what\"s going on

00:17:20.959 --> 00:17:22.833
and this is how it happens.

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We\"re really at the cusp of,
you know,

00:17:24.501 --> 00:17:28.666
what I\"ve argued is world
historical transformation

00:17:28.667 --> 00:17:31.709
in the use of information
for monitoring.

00:17:31.959 --> 00:17:36.958
There will be no 3 AM knock on
the door by storm troopers

00:17:36.959 --> 00:17:39.958
come to force implants
into our bodies.

00:17:39.959 --> 00:17:42.959
The process will be more subtle
and cumulative.

00:17:46.334 --> 00:17:48.918
Prisons have emerged sort of as
a testing ground for new

00:17:48.959 --> 00:17:52.917
technologies, regimes to detect
drugs, for example.

00:17:52.918 --> 00:17:56.500
Metal detectors, CCTV cameras
were first used

00:17:56.501 --> 00:17:58.959
in penitentiaries.

00:18:01.083 --> 00:18:03.082
There\"s a long history of all
kinds of new types

00:18:03.083 --> 00:18:07.416
of monitoring regimes being used
on a lesser-able population

00:18:07.417 --> 00:18:11.374
or stigmatized groups such as
inmates or stigmatized groups

00:18:11.375 --> 00:18:12.959
such as welfare recipients.

00:18:13.083 --> 00:18:16.166
It\"s harder to work up public
sympathy for them,

00:18:16.167 --> 00:18:19.334
it\"s harder for them to
essentially resist.

00:18:26.959 --> 00:18:28.082
From cooks to commandos,

00:18:28.083 --> 00:18:31.583
every one of the more than 1
million U.S. military personnel

00:18:31.584 --> 00:18:36.291
will see microchips replace
their dog tags.

00:18:36.292 --> 00:18:39.333
There\"s a huge literature on the
place of warfare in

00:18:39.334 --> 00:18:40.958
scientific innovation.

00:18:40.959 --> 00:18:42.958
The military, particularly the
United States,

00:18:42.959 --> 00:18:45.375
they\"re at the forefront of
what\"s been termed

00:18:45.501 --> 00:18:48.625
\"cyber war\",
\"informational warfare.\"

00:18:48.626 --> 00:18:52.167
They\"ve really embraced the
template of using information

00:18:52.292 --> 00:18:53.333
and communication technologies

00:18:53.334 --> 00:18:56.334
to give them battle field
advantage.

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Business and government have
their own agendas

00:19:01.375 --> 00:19:04.667
and I think that\"s how
you have to understand

00:19:04.792 --> 00:19:08.082
how microchips will become
more pervasive

00:19:08.083 --> 00:19:11.374
is that they solve a whole
series of local problems

00:19:11.375 --> 00:19:15.500
to capitalise on certain issues,
to create profit.

00:19:15.501 --> 00:19:16.875
That is how they will evolve

00:19:16.876 --> 00:19:18.999
through a whole series of
localized decisions

00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:21.416
about, well, this will allow us
to keep better track of

00:19:21.417 --> 00:19:23.249
wandering Alzheimer\"s patients,

00:19:23.250 --> 00:19:25.958
or this might allow me to keep
better track of my son,

00:19:25.959 --> 00:19:27.958
you know, who\"s playing
in the front yard.

00:19:27.959 --> 00:19:30.666
Now I\"ll know if he wanders out
of the front yard.

00:19:30.667 --> 00:19:33.374
It\"s those continuing
localized decisions

00:19:33.375 --> 00:19:37.416
of localized benefits
that will cumulatively lead

00:19:37.417 --> 00:19:38.042
in this direction.

00:19:38.043 --> 00:19:40.374
You know, we don\"t want to make
too much about microchips.

00:19:40.375 --> 00:19:43.416
It could be something else
that would allow

00:19:43.417 --> 00:19:45.208
for real-time monitoring.

00:19:45.209 --> 00:19:50.042
But whatever happens will unfold
roughly the way I set out,

00:19:50.167 --> 00:19:51.291
that it will occur
in the military

00:19:51.292 --> 00:19:53.082
and it would become a condition
of your job,

00:19:53.083 --> 00:19:57.374
that you will trade off certain
privacy rights

00:19:57.375 --> 00:19:58.500
for greater access.

00:19:58.501 --> 00:20:00.791
Those dynamics,
whatever the endpoint,

00:20:00.792 --> 00:20:03.959
those dynamics I think will
continue to play.

00:20:08.667 --> 00:20:09.958
That\"s really weird.
Did it shock you?

00:20:09.959 --> 00:20:10.959
I\"m kind of surprised.

00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:12.249
I wasn\"t shocked actually.

00:20:12.250 --> 00:20:12.959
Really?

00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:14.080
I kind of expected something

00:20:14.167 --> 00:20:16.500
like that to happen. But why wouldn\"t
they just say that upfront before?

00:20:16.501 --> 00:20:17.292
I don\"t know.

00:20:17.293 --> 00:20:20.082
It\"s because,
you know, at the last minute
there\"s cold feet.

00:20:20.083 --> 00:20:21.500
Everyone pulls out, yeah.

00:20:21.501 --> 00:20:23.667
Yeah.
It\"s really strange.

00:20:23.792 --> 00:20:24.375
It happens a lot.

00:20:24.376 --> 00:20:26.096
I get a lot of e-mails
about it from people.

00:20:26.167 --> 00:20:28.416
I guess I should
have expected it.

00:20:28.417 --> 00:20:29.375
Yeah.

00:20:29.376 --> 00:20:30.958
We just went into
the tattoo parlour

00:20:30.959 --> 00:20:32.291
and they don\"t want to do it.

00:20:32.292 --> 00:20:33.958
One of the owners
isn\"t cool with it at all

00:20:33.959 --> 00:20:36.625
and he, I guess,
doesn\"t believe the technology

00:20:36.626 --> 00:20:38.958
is very good for us, like the
government is going to

00:20:38.959 --> 00:20:40.374
be watching us
or something like that.

00:20:40.375 --> 00:20:41.833
So they don\"t want to be
involved at all.

00:20:41.834 --> 00:20:43.666
Luckily, the tattoo artist still
wants to do it

00:20:43.667 --> 00:20:45.999
but you can tell we\"re down the
walk from there,

00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:47.374
they don\"t want to see me in
front of there,

00:20:47.375 --> 00:20:49.041
but the tattoo artist
still wants to do it so...

00:20:49.042 --> 00:20:51.042
The piercing artist, so we\"re
going to go back to my place

00:20:51.167 --> 00:20:55.374
and do it there I think. So that\"s two
doctors that backed out at the last minute

00:20:55.375 --> 00:20:57.999
and now a piercing artist
backing out

00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:00.667
so three people in general.

00:21:00.792 --> 00:21:01.792
MAN:
Take your finger and feel it.

00:21:01.793 --> 00:21:03.500
It feels like a natural
little channel.

00:21:03.501 --> 00:21:04.791
MARK:
Mmm-hmm.

00:21:04.792 --> 00:21:06.959
Right?

00:21:08.959 --> 00:21:12.333
It\"s around here.
It hurts less if you watch.

00:21:12.334 --> 00:21:14.959
It\"s our look at it is our
sensory perception

00:21:15.042 --> 00:21:18.708
is a movable pain, right?

00:21:18.709 --> 00:21:21.166
And how much of each
you get in there

00:21:21.167 --> 00:21:23.542
depends on which ones
you\"re focusing on.

00:21:23.667 --> 00:21:25.500
So if you focus
on your sense of touch,

00:21:25.501 --> 00:21:28.125
it just goes bang, right?

00:21:36.751 --> 00:21:37.875
TOM:
Are you ready?

00:21:37.876 --> 00:21:38.667
MARK:
I\"m ready.

00:21:38.668 --> 00:21:40.708
I\"m just not sure whether
I\"m going to watch

00:21:40.709 --> 00:21:41.542
or not so we\"ll see.

00:21:41.543 --> 00:21:44.250
TOM:
That\"s up to you.

00:21:48.959 --> 00:21:51.125
PETER:
I\"ve tagged my pets.

00:21:51.250 --> 00:21:52.250
I don\"t see a problem with that.

00:21:52.251 --> 00:21:54.959
I don\"t know anybody who does
see a problem with that.

00:21:55.042 --> 00:21:58.124
But you take the same action and
you tag a human being

00:21:58.125 --> 00:21:59.042
and now it becomes emotional.

00:21:59.043 --> 00:22:02.208
It\"s the same technology which a
second ago wasn\"t an issue,

00:22:02.209 --> 00:22:04.791
but when we start talking about
doing it to human beings,

00:22:04.792 --> 00:22:08.124
sentient beings,
then it becomes a real issue.

00:22:08.125 --> 00:22:10.209
It is always a people issue.

00:22:10.334 --> 00:22:11.458
It\"s an emotional issue.

00:22:11.459 --> 00:22:13.958
It is not an issue about
technology.

00:22:13.959 --> 00:22:15.666
You know, RF ID
is getting all the press,

00:22:15.667 --> 00:22:18.208
but there are lots and lots of
these mechanisms.

00:22:18.209 --> 00:22:19.958
You can be tracked through your
cell phone.

00:22:19.959 --> 00:22:22.958
Or the Bluetooth mechanism can
be used to track you

00:22:22.959 --> 00:22:25.416
individually as you walk around.

00:22:25.417 --> 00:22:28.124
The WiFi signature on your
computer if your computer

00:22:28.125 --> 00:22:30.958
is on can be used to track you.

00:22:30.959 --> 00:22:32.166
Face recognition will work.

00:22:32.167 --> 00:22:34.791
It doesn\"t work today but give
it 10 or 15 years.

00:22:34.792 --> 00:22:37.333
So RF ID is important but,
you know,

00:22:37.334 --> 00:22:39.417
don\"t lose the forest
for the tree.

00:22:39.542 --> 00:22:42.583
This is just one of the many,
many surveillance technologies

00:22:42.584 --> 00:22:45.541
that\"s either been developed or
is drawing organically just

00:22:45.542 --> 00:22:46.209
because of technology.

00:22:46.210 --> 00:22:48.374
KATHERINE:
So what\"s going to happen if we
throw RF ID out in the world?

00:22:48.375 --> 00:22:51.834
What\"s going to happen if we
make human implants available?

00:22:51.959 --> 00:22:55.958
It doesn\"t take rocket science
to say that they will be used

00:22:55.959 --> 00:22:57.750
for marketing purposes by
corporations

00:22:57.751 --> 00:22:59.834
to closely watch you
and take your money

00:22:59.959 --> 00:23:02.875
and they will be used by
governments to closely surveil and more
tightly control you.

00:23:02.876 --> 00:23:05.918
I think people are mistaken
if they think that privacy

00:23:05.959 --> 00:23:09.458
is some sort of a line in the
sand beyond which

00:23:09.459 --> 00:23:10.292
nobody shall pass.

00:23:10.293 --> 00:23:13.500
Essentially what privacy has
become, I would say,

00:23:13.501 --> 00:23:14.125
is a commodity.

00:23:14.126 --> 00:23:16.708
It\"s something that
we sort of own a bit of

00:23:16.709 --> 00:23:21.708
and we give away slices of it
for greater access

00:23:21.709 --> 00:23:24.958
through customs.
Discounts at the mall,

00:23:24.959 --> 00:23:25.876
faster Internet.

00:23:25.877 --> 00:23:28.958
Surveillance essentially is a
cost that we pay

00:23:28.959 --> 00:23:31.999
for engaging with contemporary
institutions.

00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:35.833
If you didn\"t give up
information,

00:23:35.834 --> 00:23:37.292
the number of things
that you couldn\"t do

00:23:37.417 --> 00:23:39.833
would essentially
make you a hermit.

00:23:39.834 --> 00:23:43.958
You could not exist in any
meaningful way...

00:23:43.959 --> 00:23:47.083
As a contemporary
modern citizen.

00:23:53.042 --> 00:23:53.959
You ready?

00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:56.501
Yup. Upgrade me.

00:24:24.918 --> 00:24:27.209
And here we go.

00:24:37.959 --> 00:24:41.291
You weren\"t kidding
about that suction.

00:24:41.292 --> 00:24:42.374
I can feel that.

00:24:42.375 --> 00:24:42.959
The suction?

00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:46.583
Yeah, that\"s when I push it
all the way through

00:24:46.584 --> 00:24:49.375
and get something to stop it.

00:24:50.334 --> 00:24:52.959
I\"m shaking like crazy.

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AMAL:
So here we go.
Scanner\"s ready.

00:24:56.417 --> 00:24:58.917
Now, one of the most
important things to do

00:24:58.918 --> 00:25:01.958
before getting an implant is to test
it to make sure the implant works.

00:25:01.959 --> 00:25:03.374
(Laughing)

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And I already tested it.

00:25:04.792 --> 00:25:05.250
Hoo!

00:25:05.251 --> 00:25:07.875
I added you to the reader.

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So that\"s powered up...

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And do your thing.

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So there it is.

00:25:15.250 --> 00:25:15.792
Hey.

00:25:15.793 --> 00:25:18.584
It burned a lot
when it happened.

00:25:18.959 --> 00:25:19.999
Well, that\"s pretty cool.

00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:21.291
I can turn lights on now.

00:25:21.292 --> 00:25:22.250
Yeah.

00:25:22.250 --> 00:25:22.959
(Laughing)

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Cool. All right,
well that works.

00:25:24.417 --> 00:25:26.082
I\"m so happy
that it actually works

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through a layer of skin.

00:25:27.959 --> 00:25:28.626
Yeah.

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MAN:
So with 18 to 20 years
from now,

00:25:32.167 --> 00:25:34.708
you\'re sick of hearing
\"why don\'t chip?\"

00:25:34.709 --> 00:25:35.250
Right.

00:25:35.375 --> 00:25:36.999
MAN:
Do have a chip in your arm?

00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:38.958
You know, you could see it
happen.

00:25:38.959 --> 00:25:40.208
You could really see it happen.

00:25:40.209 --> 00:25:43.708
I had a graduate course
yesterday in surveillance

00:25:43.709 --> 00:25:45.666
and all the students were
packing up.

00:25:45.667 --> 00:25:47.458
One of the students
says to the other,

00:25:47.459 --> 00:25:49.416
\"So are you going to join
Facebook or not?

00:25:49.417 --> 00:25:52.042
I want to put you on my
Facebook sort of friends.\"

00:25:52.167 --> 00:25:54.459
He goes \"Yeah, God.
I guess I\"d better.\"

00:25:54.584 --> 00:25:58.500
It\"s that kind of
resigned fatalism,

00:25:58.501 --> 00:26:00.667
that \"I may as well,
I\"m going to have to,

00:26:00.792 --> 00:26:01.792
everyone else is doing it,

00:26:01.793 --> 00:26:03.041
I\"m going to miss out on
something,

00:26:03.042 --> 00:26:06.291
I\"m essentially not exist
as a social individual

00:26:06.292 --> 00:26:06.959
unless I do it\"

00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:11.917
that you could see how even
someone sort of as gloomy as I

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could end up with
something like this.

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AMAL:
We just put the relay,

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connect it right to that button

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and that\"s pretty much it.

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Once we get the cover on,
we\"ll hook up the power

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and give it a go.

00:26:26.083 --> 00:26:27.042
Awesome.

00:26:27.042 --> 00:26:27.959
Right.

00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:29.958
I\"m excited.

00:26:29.959 --> 00:26:30.959
I\"m not actually excited.

00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:32.958
I\"m a little excited. I\"m kidding,
I\"m totally excited.

00:26:32.959 --> 00:26:34.791
(Beeping and whirring)

00:26:34.792 --> 00:26:35.542
Sweet.

00:26:35.667 --> 00:26:36.334
MARK:
Woo-hoo!

00:26:36.459 --> 00:26:38.583
We\"re going to need Baily.

00:26:38.584 --> 00:26:40.959
Help us.

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Locked.

00:26:44.959 --> 00:26:45.959
Unlocked.

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Yes, guy.

00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:49.501
Good to go.

00:26:49.959 --> 00:26:52.958
(Whirring and beeping)

00:26:52.959 --> 00:26:53.667
Nice.

00:26:53.667 --> 00:26:54.584
(Beeping and whirring)

00:26:54.585 --> 00:26:57.958
Oh, that\"s the sound you want.

00:26:57.959 --> 00:27:00.501
(Beeping and whirring)

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♪