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As a young girl, you dreamed
of the sky...

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embroidered in ten hopscotches...

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as the sun painted
your golden curls...

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which was the champagne
of your innocence...

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Later, your roaring twenties,

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surrendered to the beat
of a bitter tango

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and in a crimson
procession of geraniums

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this suburban grief bled out.

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Yesterday, you carried the sun
in your hopscotch,

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shining on your simple, pure life

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And now that every light
shines on you,

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your poor little heart
is in the dark.

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Carmine...

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you'll always have the place
you left behind,

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Carmine...

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always those begging hands...

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Now it's time to cry...

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with tears of faith...

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Carmine, return.

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I have no voice, Sofía.
I can't sing.

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-Come on, clap your hands.
-No.

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-No, play "Green eyes", my song.
-Green eyes it is.

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Let's see.

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CARMINE

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I dreamed I went to the races,
with another woman. What a mess.

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I made her bet I think. It seems
I won and made a lot of money.

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Dreams cannot be explained.

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I lived in a beautiful house.

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Great, perhaps it was
in another life.

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Perhaps you dreamed
of a past life.

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No.

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-But you used to have a house...
-And go to the races.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Perhaps you were dreaming about
40 years ago, when you were at the races,

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when you had that beautiful house
in Prado neighborhood.

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Look in the mirror,
see if you like your appearance,

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and the lipstick I got you.

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Have a look.

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-See?
-Oh, no.

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-You look gorgeous, dear.
-Shut up, I don't.

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-Come on.
-I look terrible.

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-I wish I could...
-García is against me.

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No, I wish I could get
to your age.

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He agrees with you.

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-Who agrees with me?
-García.

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-I don't know who García is.
-Always against me.

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Look at these photos...

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they remind you...

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when you used to go
to the races...

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-No, this is at school.
-Yes, I know.

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-There's another one with horses.
-With Jorge and Roberto Wenre.

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-They live round the corner.
-Look, look at this one.

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You, your husband and the horse.
What was the horse's name?

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-Maratea.
-Wow, you remember!

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What about this one?

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How old were you there?
You look just like in the other one.

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Yes.

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The man didn't get it right.
My shoulders look deformed.

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-Because it's a Daguerreotype.
-He was inexperienced.

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That's a painting, Carmen.
It's not like today's photos.

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Sure, oil painting.

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And you don't like how you look there?

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No, because my shoulders
are not square like that.

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I love animals.
That's what I love the most.

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I know, they are with you,
they keep you company...

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Animals are what I love most.
People disappoint me every day.

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Yes, dear. Me too. I pay no attention
to any neighbor, love.

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I walk out the door, do what I have to do,
then come back, and I don't care about anyone.

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-I don't care.
-And the looks?

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I don't care whether
they look or not.

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I already had trouble
with the guys next door.

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The Police got involved.
The ones who broke your car.

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Those same guys
make my life miserable...

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I still don't know where the car is,
if at the garage or not.

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No, they did steal it,
but I won't argue over that.

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People always stole from me.
Everything. Everything.

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Well.

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These people next door,
that you had trouble with,

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I had trouble too.

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They reported me,
a fake report,

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and I had to go to the Police, I ended up
reporting them for harassment,

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because for the State,
I am a woman.

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I don't know if you know.
Do you know what I am?

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-Sure.
-What am I?

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-Man, woman, what do you think?
-Well, you are a lady.

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I am a lady, fine.
So, for the State...

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gender based violence
is when a man, like the guy next door,

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used to insult me,
call me faggot, and other names,

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and they even made
a false report on me,

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I told you all this,
but you don't remember.

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I went to the Police
and I had to file a report

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for harassment, because the State
considers me a woman,

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so then the Police came here...

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-The State and everyone else.
-Right, everyone else.

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The Police painted the picture for them
and now they leave me alone.

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I walk by and don't even look at them,
like they don't exist.

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-But he still throws water up there...
-Don't put the food there.

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Come, Baby Blue.

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-It'll get the bed dirty.
-It loves to eat there.

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I'm at the door. I think I made it on time,
if I'm not mistaken.

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It was horrible to walk around here.
The train is gone. I'll miss that.

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My dear, come right in.

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There'll be a new train,
so don't worry.

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Come on, honey.
Come in.

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How are you?

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-Soaked.
-That sucks.

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-You said "rain" and it started to pour.
-Yes.

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Come here, dear. I'm all...

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-How are you?
-How are you, love?

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-Fine, and you?
-Fine.

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-Oh, my.
-Well, girl.

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-I don't control the weather.
-No.

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And neither do you, so...

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-Well, sometimes I do.
-Really?

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-How do you do it?
-It takes knowledge.

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Oh, my. How's that?

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I tried to stop the rain,
but wasn't able to.

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How do you do that?
Are you a witch now?

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-I have many gifts.
-Great.

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I could use some of your gifts.
Like, get me a boyfriend.

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Ever since I was eight years old...

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-Oh, you have powers?
-Yes, sometimes.

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-I love that.
-I can help with pain too.

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-With pain? That's great.
-Yes.

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You should advertise
on social media, girl.

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To do that for a living.

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If I told you that someone
had a massive wart on the nose

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and I made it go away.
With my own hands.

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-What?
-Yes, it went away a year later.

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-You burst it or what?
-No, no, just touching...

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-Wow, magic hands.
-I made three sections of it.

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Flor, I need you to sit
in my place.

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Further that way.

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Let's see.
There.

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Checking...

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-The light.
-Of course.

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Here comes the lady.

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-How are you, Flor?
-Fine, fine.

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You can come behind me
and stand over here.

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-Transur 58.
-OK.

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-Thank you.
-Come this way.

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Stand over here.

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No, your Transur is number...

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-I can't remember.
-52.

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Yes, 52.

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-Transur 52.
-Let's have a toast.

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To Transur 52,
for many more to come.

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You had surgery in Argentina.

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No, I will get it in the future.

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-I had surgery here in Uruguay.
-Which surgery?

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Here I had my testicles removed.

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-Right.
-And the next stage...

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will take place in Argentina.

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-You will get a vaginoplasty.
-Yes.

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Good. Because you are
a hermaphrodite,

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let's tell our audience
that among trans people,

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you are quite special,
there aren't many hermaphrodites,

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and also, yours is a genetic condition.

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-You were born this way.
-Yes.

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-It's not something people can decide.
-No, it's not.

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-You were wired that way.
-Yes, I was.

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Do you agree with the way
you were born into this life?

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-Would you have rather...?
-Well...

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I mean... I don't know if I agree.

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I don't know if...

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it's a choice you can make in life.

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You come to this world
and you have to choose...

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or feel what you really feel.

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-Were you a victim of bullying?
-No.

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There was one classmate...

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and as he noticed...

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-You were effeminate...
-Yes.

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So that was a different story...

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-A different situation.
-A different situation with him.

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And then it was like...

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We had something in common,
when we were in school...

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There was something there.
But well...

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But bullying, I don't think so.

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-No.
-You know what it was like in the past...

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Maybe Flor can bring some biscuits
to enjoy this afternoon.

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-Watch out for the mud, girls.
-Yes, we'll avoid them.

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Romi, when I tell you, you go down
that way and then turn and walk away.

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I'll tell you when to stop
and when to walk on.

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-You just do what I say.
-OK.

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Now, Romina.

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Good. That's it. Stay there.

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Wait a second, I'll get
a new memory card.

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Now, Romina.

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Oh, wait.
Hang on, hang on.

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-There you go. Now stand there.
-Yes, yes.

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-See? Being thin has its advantages.
-It sure does.

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Now climb up the slope.

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Hello, followers of Transur,
hello, Transurians...

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I am very happy

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that Mrs. María Belén Correa
gave us an interview

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so you can know her, as she is
a very prominent LGBTQI leader,

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in Argentina and in the world.

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We met back in the 90s,

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in the underground scene
in Buenos Aires...

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Here we are with Andrea...

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On this one, we are with Andrea,
from Argentina, who was murdered too.

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Yes, yes, I heard.

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On this one, we are with Andrea,
from Argentina, who was murdered too.

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Yes, yes, I heard.

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She also died, she was from Paraguay
and used to live at my place.

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-Look at that.
-Yes, a Paraguayan with black hair.

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This one, with Mariela.

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Oh, no! I can drop dead!

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I am Carmen Luisa García.

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I live... I am in danger.
I need help.

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My name is Sofía Saunier.
I live at 837 San Ramón Street, ap 2.

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We are here,
next to the railway,

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since 2018,
following an expropriation,

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the Ministry of Public Works
closed San Ramón Street,

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and since then, I have had
countless problems,

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my house was broken into,
my door was vandalized,

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there were many things stolen,
my windows were smashed,

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I have filed five police reports,

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the Police won't do anything,

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the Ministry of Public Works is keeping me
prisoner in my own home,

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because I didn't get paid,
as my five neighbors have.

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I live in a place with six apartments,

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and the other five families received payment
and were relocated three months ago.

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I live with Carmencita,
who is 85 and with failing health,

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and I am a vulnerable trans woman,

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I have received death threats
and the Ministry is doing nothing.

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These were mortared.

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This used to be a house,
look what these criminals did.

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They stole everything,
and I'm living in these conditions.

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This house next door,

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there's a hole here,
they go in through here...

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Look.

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They go through here now.

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This video will be posted on social media,
I have thousands of followers,

00:18:08.371 --> 00:18:13.514
because if I get killed, or something
happens to Carmen, it's their fault.

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Come, Baby Blue.

00:18:33.010 --> 00:18:34.371
OK, we're done. Come on.

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Come, let's go outside.

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BABY BLUE, MY BABY

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Come on, come here.

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I'm going in, come on.

00:19:02.479 --> 00:19:04.611
Come, someone will steal you.

00:19:52.531 --> 00:19:54.715
These things I like, Diego.

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-Electronic things with cables, see?
-OK.

00:19:57.720 --> 00:19:58.719
I like those.

00:20:01.598 --> 00:20:03.486
Another thing I like, Diego.

00:20:04.213 --> 00:20:06.955
-Hands, legs and heads from dolls.
-OK, yes.

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-Look at this one.
-Look.

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Oh, my God,
these are my favorites.

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-The legs are backwards, she's possessed.
-Hold it, hold it.

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I'll cut the head off.

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-Careful, it's coming out.
-Yes.

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-The guts.
-Yes.

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I just want the head.

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-And the arms?
-No, no.

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That's it. From the trash she came,
to the trash she'll return, renewed.

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-Will you carry it?
-Yes.

00:21:04.263 --> 00:21:05.550
Disgusting world.

00:21:06.199 --> 00:21:07.501
Disgusting world.

00:21:08.157 --> 00:21:09.460
Disgusting world.

00:22:18.500 --> 00:22:19.740
What do you want, honey?

00:22:21.052 --> 00:22:22.433
I can't deal with you now.

00:23:47.941 --> 00:23:49.366
Hello!

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-Goddess!
-Hello!

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Hi, friend, you know
I missed the turn.

00:24:01.966 --> 00:24:03.288
Oh, God.

00:24:06.707 --> 00:24:07.706
Well...

00:24:08.168 --> 00:24:11.946
-I thought, 32 , 36, 34, wow!
-Yes.

00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:14.955
-How are you?
-It's a pleasure, dear.

00:24:23.985 --> 00:24:25.764
-Now turn around.
-OK.

00:24:26.685 --> 00:24:27.684
There you go.

00:24:32.212 --> 00:24:36.889
Go down, take a shot all the way down
from her bottom to her feet.

00:24:37.621 --> 00:24:38.620
That's it.

00:24:44.814 --> 00:24:47.760
The earrings, try to get her earrings.

00:24:51.713 --> 00:24:52.712
That's it.

00:24:55.447 --> 00:24:58.427
Move your head a bit,
so your earrings move.

00:24:59.066 --> 00:25:00.673
That's it.
I love that gold.

00:25:03.262 --> 00:25:04.261
It's good.

00:25:04.497 --> 00:25:05.984
-OK. Ready.
-Great.

00:25:06.253 --> 00:25:09.475
What, am I the first one
who dares come to the neighborhood?

00:25:10.035 --> 00:25:12.661
No, no, well, to shoot you are.

00:25:12.832 --> 00:25:14.637
-Oh, OK.
-The first one to shoot.

00:25:14.662 --> 00:25:16.898
I suppose there are
other trans people here.

00:25:16.923 --> 00:25:18.741
-Are you the only one?
-The only one.

00:25:18.766 --> 00:25:20.232
-In this area.
-Look at that.

00:25:20.257 --> 00:25:24.410
-Do they respect you?
-Yes. If they don't, you make them.

00:25:24.576 --> 00:25:27.502
-Were you always like that?
-Not with violence, but with...

00:25:28.270 --> 00:25:29.975
you know, speaking for ourselves.

00:25:30.142 --> 00:25:32.981
You never experienced
any violent incidents?

00:25:33.006 --> 00:25:35.823
No, never, not here, fortunately.

00:25:37.490 --> 00:25:39.645
-It'll be like this.
-Beautiful.

00:25:43.917 --> 00:25:46.215
Cynthia, you just begin
whenever you're ready.

00:25:46.612 --> 00:25:47.611
It's on now.

00:25:48.244 --> 00:25:50.194
-OK, are you ready?
-Fantastic.

00:25:50.650 --> 00:25:53.010
Are all three of us in the...?

00:25:53.750 --> 00:25:56.194
-Sit up...
-OK, let's go.

00:25:57.188 --> 00:26:00.026
-Look...
-Girls, I'll start.

00:26:03.916 --> 00:26:07.290
Hello. We are here
in Barros Blancos.

00:26:07.783 --> 00:26:10.096
We're shooting Transur 61.

00:26:10.550 --> 00:26:13.901
I came to visit Mrs. Paulina,
who kindly invited me,

00:26:14.151 --> 00:26:17.144
for an interview for her program
Paulina Show,

00:26:17.711 --> 00:26:22.481
and I cannot miss this opportunity
to have your mom speak on camera.

00:26:22.505 --> 00:26:24.160
So, thank you, Paulina.

00:26:24.324 --> 00:26:27.925
Thank you, Mabel,
for having me in your house.

00:26:28.367 --> 00:26:31.148
Speak to the camera.
Paulina, please introduce your mom.

00:26:31.173 --> 00:26:36.388
Great, Sofi. Well, thank you so much
for the invitation to this Transur 61,

00:26:36.749 --> 00:26:42.166
it's a pleasure to meet you
in this road we have traveled,

00:26:42.713 --> 00:26:46.767
and welcome to Paulina Show,
welcome to me, I am Paulina Navarrín.

00:26:46.792 --> 00:26:50.445
This is my mom,
she is 73 years old...

00:26:50.470 --> 00:26:53.860
so you can imagine...
how proud I am...

00:26:54.667 --> 00:26:57.483
how proud of my mother,
of my father too, of my family,

00:26:57.507 --> 00:27:01.061
My family has always been...
very close to me...

00:27:01.562 --> 00:27:05.798
in my childhood
and my development.

00:27:06.313 --> 00:27:09.495
Well, let's have your mom talk,
we can continue inside later.

00:27:09.830 --> 00:27:13.923
Mabel, I want you to tell me
what it was like when you learned...

00:27:14.663 --> 00:27:17.732
-About Paulina.
-The sexuality, yes, her sexuality.

00:27:17.988 --> 00:27:21.516
When she was little,
I used to take naps...

00:27:22.216 --> 00:27:24.321
and she would get out of bed,

00:27:24.733 --> 00:27:28.285
put on my heels, my skirts, my make up,
she even put make up on me.

00:27:28.926 --> 00:27:31.863
I'd ask her what she was doing,
she'd say she was playing.

00:27:32.596 --> 00:27:36.294
Her father used to give her toys for boys
and she'd say she wasn't a boy.

00:27:36.732 --> 00:27:38.249
She said she didn't like them.

00:27:39.099 --> 00:27:42.941
She had dolls on her bed,
she used to sleep with the dolls.

00:27:43.464 --> 00:27:45.562
And well,
when she was eight,

00:27:46.256 --> 00:27:49.853
I spoke to the...
gynecologist...

00:27:50.726 --> 00:27:55.261
I took her there, I spoke
to the gynecologist,

00:27:55.669 --> 00:27:58.220
she told me to get a mate ready,
grab the thermos,

00:27:58.643 --> 00:28:01.788
and tell my husband about it,
so he'd accept it.

00:28:01.835 --> 00:28:03.021
And of course I did.

00:28:03.754 --> 00:28:06.018
I got the mate ready,
and we went for a walk.

00:28:06.622 --> 00:28:10.025
It was the gynecologist because
at the time mom was not so aware

00:28:10.088 --> 00:28:12.114
of psychiatrists or psychologists,

00:28:12.139 --> 00:28:18.124
so she went to person she trusted,
and listened to what she said,

00:28:18.508 --> 00:28:21.231
and she transferred her
to a psychologist.

00:28:21.458 --> 00:28:26.428
And then, they decided to begin therapy
with my dad, to be able to understand.

00:28:26.506 --> 00:28:29.381
Thank you so much for your words,
it's very important

00:28:29.406 --> 00:28:33.566
so people can see many trans people
like Paulina are accepted by their moms.

00:28:33.690 --> 00:28:35.938
Paulina, I'd like you to give
your mom a kiss.

00:28:35.963 --> 00:28:37.577
-On camera, please.
-I'd love to.

00:28:37.602 --> 00:28:38.601
And I applaud.

00:29:24.897 --> 00:29:27.126
Hello, my darlings!
Welcome to Paulina Show!

00:29:27.151 --> 00:29:29.873
A great show today,
Paulina Show,

00:29:29.898 --> 00:29:33.671
our 49th program
on Facebook.

00:29:34.019 --> 00:29:39.085
And now we move on to her.
Here she comes, this artist...

00:29:39.286 --> 00:29:43.626
a contributor
to the LGBTQ+ movement,

00:29:43.884 --> 00:29:48.371
there are so many acronyms
I can't remember, so I add the +,

00:29:49.847 --> 00:29:53.262
today a face to face interview,
one on one,

00:29:53.528 --> 00:29:56.240
like Moria and Susana
in Buenos Aires,

00:29:56.265 --> 00:29:59.527
today it's Sofía and Paulina,
Uruguayan style.

00:29:59.660 --> 00:30:01.492
Here, at Paulina's couch.

00:30:01.592 --> 00:30:04.222
Darlings, it's a pleasure
to have her here.

00:30:04.502 --> 00:30:07.444
With us today, Sofia Saunier.
Come on in.

00:30:09.116 --> 00:30:10.115
Darling!

00:30:25.325 --> 00:30:27.989
It won't be an avenue,
it will be a railway.

00:30:28.090 --> 00:30:31.536
No. It will be an avenue.
It was on TV.

00:30:31.820 --> 00:30:34.162
-And how far...?
-They'll demolish all of this.

00:30:34.187 --> 00:30:36.551
-It's so hot.
-That's why it's an expropriation.

00:30:36.576 --> 00:30:38.703
Do you know what it means?
Tell me.

00:30:39.162 --> 00:30:42.868
They will... They will have
to pay people for their houses.

00:30:42.969 --> 00:30:45.357
For example,
people next door say they got...

00:30:45.382 --> 00:30:48.673
very little money...
for a house with eight rooms.

00:30:49.995 --> 00:30:51.713
It was huge.
It was Lorelei's.

00:30:53.027 --> 00:30:55.220
Well, expropriation means
we have to leave.

00:30:55.244 --> 00:30:57.202
And the other woman
went on a trip...

00:30:57.985 --> 00:31:00.279
Marble everywhere.
Black and white inside...

00:31:00.504 --> 00:31:05.540
She went on a trip, the plane crashed,
and for 30 years, no one came.

00:31:05.565 --> 00:31:08.423
I thought that was strange.
That house, closed...

00:31:08.469 --> 00:31:11.808
That one and the one next door.
A man came later from Argentina,

00:31:11.833 --> 00:31:17.119
and opened a grocery store. He gave me
a bag of fruit when my sister was dying.

00:31:19.522 --> 00:31:23.065
OK, listen. Who bought this house?
Your mom, your dad?

00:31:23.451 --> 00:31:25.492
-This house? I bought it.
-You bought it.

00:31:25.524 --> 00:31:27.388
But I never said anything,
not a word.

00:31:28.276 --> 00:31:30.980
They offered me a great deal,
they loved me so much...

00:31:31.005 --> 00:31:34.620
like I was Mrs. Ema's daughter,
Osvaldo's sister...

00:31:35.028 --> 00:31:37.689
they were...like family,
they offered me a great deal.

00:31:38.818 --> 00:31:42.231
-That's why I could afford it.
-And you never moved in?

00:31:42.683 --> 00:31:45.423
No, I was staying in Prado,
until they kicked me out.

00:31:45.494 --> 00:31:47.116
Why did they kick you out?

00:31:47.717 --> 00:31:50.041
-Don't know.
-What do you mean you don't know?

00:31:51.128 --> 00:31:54.389
-Dr. Alvarez talks to you. What did he say?
-No, he doesn't.

00:31:54.414 --> 00:31:58.508
-I don't even know Dr. Alvarez.
-What a hypocrite!

00:31:58.550 --> 00:32:00.758
-I don't!
-She sleeps with him every night...

00:32:00.783 --> 00:32:03.747
and says she doesn't know him.
In the hall, in the room...

00:32:03.772 --> 00:32:05.082
I never slept with him.

00:32:05.107 --> 00:32:08.406
-Had I met him when he was young.
-What a lack... I told you, Sofía.

00:32:08.431 --> 00:32:11.741
I have nothing to do with him,
but you must be a delicate woman.

00:32:11.766 --> 00:32:14.635
How can you sleep with him,
who used to be my husband?

00:32:14.689 --> 00:32:17.149
He should take you to Carrasco,
some fancy place,

00:32:17.174 --> 00:32:20.967
not here in the hall,
or in the next room.

00:32:21.255 --> 00:32:24.469
I don't find Dr. Alvarez attractive,
at his age.

00:32:24.756 --> 00:32:26.694
-In his 30s or 40s...
-But he's young.

00:32:26.719 --> 00:32:30.139
-He's 84 years old.
-Of course he's not 84, Sofía!

00:32:30.380 --> 00:32:32.641
-He's very young.
-OK.

00:32:33.800 --> 00:32:35.876
-He is not 84.
-If I met him in his 40s,

00:32:35.901 --> 00:32:38.274
-I'd sleep with him.
-We got married in our 20s.

00:32:38.313 --> 00:32:39.591
He was a beautiful man.

00:32:42.448 --> 00:32:45.210
Why did you fall in love with him?
His looks? His money?

00:32:45.235 --> 00:32:46.561
I don't know if I did.

00:32:46.588 --> 00:32:48.448
-What?
-It was strange.

00:32:48.956 --> 00:32:49.955
You don't remember?

00:32:49.980 --> 00:32:51.174
-No.
-OK.

00:33:00.182 --> 00:33:01.311
Oh! What a scare!

00:33:06.128 --> 00:33:07.748
I have something for you.

00:33:10.900 --> 00:33:12.807
No, she goes first.

00:33:13.123 --> 00:33:14.535
Here. Here.
There you are.

00:33:15.017 --> 00:33:18.085
OK, let me take a picture
for my Instagram.

00:33:18.110 --> 00:33:21.109
-What are they doing here?
-Building a railway.

00:33:21.985 --> 00:33:25.271
-There won't be trains here anymore.
-OK, look this way.

00:33:25.435 --> 00:33:28.610
-The train will be outside Montevideo.
-OK, honey look this way.

00:33:28.635 --> 00:33:30.833
There won't be any trains here.
Not anymore.

00:33:30.858 --> 00:33:32.773
-Stay still.
-No one takes the train.

00:33:32.798 --> 00:33:34.858
There are planes now,
and other things...

00:33:38.145 --> 00:33:40.138
OK, Carmencita,
this way, this way.

00:33:40.583 --> 00:33:43.695
-There you go. Stay still.
-It's so hot.

00:33:45.357 --> 00:33:47.006
Give us a happy face.

00:33:47.493 --> 00:33:48.492
That's it!

00:34:04.864 --> 00:34:07.826
Backstage, testing scenes
with Mr. X.

00:34:08.737 --> 00:34:12.331
We're testing, testing,
camera one, roll...

00:34:12.945 --> 00:34:15.343
Sofía Saunier,
testing, camera...

00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.386
This Transur 63
is something special.

00:34:19.411 --> 00:34:21.096
Why?
Because it's different.

00:34:21.121 --> 00:34:23.235
It's my first Transur
in black and white,

00:34:23.809 --> 00:34:27.241
and it's about Mr. X.

00:34:27.266 --> 00:34:28.867
Who is Mr. X?

00:34:29.222 --> 00:34:33.780
Well, Mr. X is a person
who knows about the trans world...

00:34:34.277 --> 00:34:36.564
in the '90s and '2000s,

00:34:36.952 --> 00:34:40.254
and someone who can contribute
something different

00:34:40.279 --> 00:34:44.715
from what we are used to seeing
about the trans world.

00:34:45.105 --> 00:34:49.823
So you cannot miss
this Transur special...

00:34:51.053 --> 00:34:52.374
with Mr. X.

00:34:53.786 --> 00:34:56.884
When did you begin to desire...

00:34:57.712 --> 00:34:59.855
being in contact with trans people?

00:35:01.073 --> 00:35:06.233
Sofía, around that time,
and back then there was no social media.

00:35:06.258 --> 00:35:09.905
At the time, everything was done
on the street, as we said.

00:35:10.405 --> 00:35:14.221
The workers "did the street",
and so did the clients.

00:35:14.577 --> 00:35:17.143
It was not virtual.

00:35:17.168 --> 00:35:20.229
It was directly on the street.

00:35:20.946 --> 00:35:24.504
Now it's done through social media.
Online, virtual.

00:35:24.590 --> 00:35:27.081
-They don't stand in the street.
-But they charge.

00:35:27.291 --> 00:35:29.124
-All of them?
-Yes.

00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.235
You say that 100%
of trans people charge?

00:35:32.545 --> 00:35:36.745
I can't say if it's 100%,
but online prostitution nowadays...

00:35:37.461 --> 00:35:40.513
they charge. It's prostitution.
They sell time and a service.

00:35:43.914 --> 00:35:45.691
Would you have a trans girlfriend?

00:35:48.292 --> 00:35:53.255
It's a difficult subject.
I cannot analyze it in depth,

00:35:53.395 --> 00:35:57.188
but I don't know, I would neither
confirm nor deny it.

00:35:58.676 --> 00:36:02.620
-But do you think love transcends sex?
-Yes, I do.

00:36:03.256 --> 00:36:06.666
And if you had a trans child,
what would you do?

00:36:08.073 --> 00:36:11.121
You cannot imprison
or tie the person down.

00:36:11.362 --> 00:36:15.329
One must let their child
make their path and discover their life.

00:36:15.477 --> 00:36:19.325
-You would love them nevertheless.
-It's two separate things.

00:36:30.991 --> 00:36:34.658
NO TO UPM TRAIN
YES TO PASSENGER TRAIN

00:36:50.518 --> 00:36:52.038
ON SALE - CONTACT OWNER

00:37:20.574 --> 00:37:21.797
ON SALE

00:37:26.672 --> 00:37:28.147
FOR RENT

00:37:42.557 --> 00:37:45.396
-That's the living-dining room.
-Yes, I like it.

00:37:45.623 --> 00:37:46.732
It looks tidy.

00:37:47.037 --> 00:37:48.957
-What?
-It looks good, tidy.

00:37:49.815 --> 00:37:52.245
-Yes.
-I love it. And the stairs up there.

00:37:54.163 --> 00:37:55.162
They had it fixed.

00:37:57.732 --> 00:38:02.249
And well, you are a good neighbor.
You like to talk...

00:38:02.967 --> 00:38:06.775
We are close, I'm good friends
with the owner.

00:38:06.962 --> 00:38:09.866
-Do you know how much she wants?
-What?

00:38:09.891 --> 00:38:13.024
-How much is the rent, do you know?
-12.000.

00:38:13.352 --> 00:38:14.433
-12.000?
-12.000.

00:38:14.458 --> 00:38:17.627
-How many bedrooms?
-Two, upstairs. One big, one small.

00:38:18.085 --> 00:38:20.818
-Oh, but it's a great price.
-Living room, dining room.

00:38:20.843 --> 00:38:22.709
-The kitchen over there.
-It's very...

00:38:23.685 --> 00:38:28.346
The price is really good.
I've been looking, and most are 19, 15...

00:38:28.371 --> 00:38:30.381
-And more.
-Yes, and more.

00:38:30.718 --> 00:38:32.500
I'm surprised it's so cheap.

00:38:33.364 --> 00:38:36.251
She says she rents it cheap,
so it's not empty.

00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.281
-She's living with her daughter, so...
-Of course, sure.

00:38:40.096 --> 00:38:42.434
-And what's your name?
-Alda. Yours?

00:38:42.459 --> 00:38:44.027
-Sofía.
-Great.

00:38:44.052 --> 00:38:47.609
-Alda, have a good afternoon.
-All the best, hope to see you here soon.

00:38:47.634 --> 00:38:49.186
Thank you, madam.
Goodbye.

00:39:03.534 --> 00:39:06.252
My God!
I have to listen to my thing.

00:39:10.811 --> 00:39:12.489
There I am...

00:39:12.973 --> 00:39:16.883
-That's Romina.
-Belén, the one in Germany.

00:39:18.215 --> 00:39:20.060
Bruno, it seems he left.

00:39:20.411 --> 00:39:23.473
-Perhaps he logged out.
-He must have, yes.

00:39:26.926 --> 00:39:30.093
OK, who wants to talk to me?
Romina? Want to say something?

00:39:32.043 --> 00:39:33.461
Like my hair?
Check it out.

00:39:34.272 --> 00:39:36.769
-I love it!
-Amazing, right?

00:39:37.123 --> 00:39:38.887
Paola Milagros did my hair.

00:39:39.110 --> 00:39:41.995
-Yes, don't shake it.
-No, I can't.

00:39:42.418 --> 00:39:44.129
It's not supposed to be shaken.

00:39:44.488 --> 00:39:47.992
-I can see your cousin there.
-Yes, here is my cousin, look.

00:39:48.429 --> 00:39:52.088
-She's not my cousin, she's my friend.
-Hello, Romina.

00:39:52.725 --> 00:39:55.249
-How are you? It's been a long time.
-Hi, everyone!

00:39:56.059 --> 00:39:57.058
Hello.

00:39:58.388 --> 00:40:00.799
Thank you for joining me.

00:40:01.646 --> 00:40:04.637
Please excuse me for the mess,
it's my first time on Zoom

00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:06.896
for my birthday,
I'm still learning.

00:40:08.495 --> 00:40:12.946
I don't know much about it,
Diego is helping me, and Tuca del Amor...

00:40:16.254 --> 00:40:18.063
I am a transvestite.

00:40:18.141 --> 00:40:21.957
I am a transvestite.
I am a transvestite.

00:40:22.177 --> 00:40:25.897
I am a transvestite.
Yes, yes, transvestite.

00:40:26.957 --> 00:40:29.974
Transvestite.
Everyone, transvestite.

00:40:30.629 --> 00:40:33.939
You, transvestite.
Me, transvestite.

00:40:34.189 --> 00:40:36.966
Your mom,
transvestite.

00:40:37.988 --> 00:40:39.166
Dad as well.

00:40:45.087 --> 00:40:47.993
I am sick of social media:

00:40:48.149 --> 00:40:49.813
Facebook,
Instagram, YouTube,

00:40:50.131 --> 00:40:53.676
Twitter, Tumblr,
and all the rest.

00:41:01.127 --> 00:41:03.872
I am sick
of social media.

00:41:04.176 --> 00:41:05.748
Facebook, Instagram,
YouTube...

00:41:06.128 --> 00:41:09.698
Twitter, Tumblr,
and all the rest.

00:42:42.934 --> 00:42:48.445
I was the creation
of one teenage fuck,

00:42:49.038 --> 00:42:50.625
a one night,
furious, stand.

00:42:51.857 --> 00:42:54.220
Then each went their own way,

00:42:54.781 --> 00:42:57.431
I hold no grudge against them,

00:42:57.455 --> 00:43:00.897
because at the time
they were 15 years old,

00:43:01.486 --> 00:43:03.792
and I think about
when I was 15,

00:43:04.653 --> 00:43:05.652
I knew nothing.

00:43:05.895 --> 00:43:08.124
So these people
didn't either.

00:43:10.005 --> 00:43:13.536
I would have preferred
things had been different.

00:43:13.934 --> 00:43:18.561
I'd rather have been...
a planned being.

00:43:28.589 --> 00:43:30.418
If I could be born again,

00:43:30.723 --> 00:43:34.056
I'd chose to have a mother
and father who love me,

00:43:34.577 --> 00:43:37.613
and to look after them
when they get old,

00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:39.554
give them grandchildren...

00:43:41.363 --> 00:43:44.676
That.
What common people do.

00:43:44.701 --> 00:43:46.514
I'd like to experience that.

00:43:46.890 --> 00:43:48.333
Which I know I won't.

00:43:48.598 --> 00:43:50.264
That's not my life.

00:43:50.728 --> 00:43:52.814
And I always knew
that was not my life.

00:43:53.658 --> 00:43:57.342
But perhaps...if there's
a second chance, so to speak,

00:43:57.367 --> 00:44:01.013
I'd like to be a biological woman,

00:44:01.038 --> 00:44:03.764
or a biological man,
heterosexual,

00:44:05.097 --> 00:44:07.810
and to have a family.
I'd love that.

00:44:42.252 --> 00:44:44.049
This phone,
I throw it away, right?

00:44:44.074 --> 00:44:45.335
-Which one?
-This one.

00:44:45.471 --> 00:44:46.470
That one works.

00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:48.798
-Don't chuck it, I like it.
-OK.

00:44:49.009 --> 00:44:51.491
-It has a '90s air. I like it.
-OK. Anything else?

00:44:51.514 --> 00:44:52.873
That, over there.

00:44:53.429 --> 00:44:54.670
I'll take it over there.

00:45:19.149 --> 00:45:21.237
That's it. Now we just
have to wait.

00:45:21.958 --> 00:45:26.716
-And like a flash, the girl...
-With her bikini, blue.

00:45:28.585 --> 00:45:29.778
Careful with the door.

00:47:01.615 --> 00:47:03.115
Here, put this
on your bottom.

00:47:05.138 --> 00:47:07.809
Under your breasts.
The other one.

00:47:08.538 --> 00:47:10.833
-Did you wash your private parts?
-Yes.

00:47:12.022 --> 00:47:15.691
OK. Now I'll put some
hair conditioner.

00:47:16.247 --> 00:47:19.893
-Yes, please, not acid.
-What? Acid?

00:47:19.918 --> 00:47:23.445
It's horrible, with acid,
my hair falls.

00:47:23.470 --> 00:47:27.117
I'm not putting acid on you,
I'd go to prison if I did.

00:47:28.911 --> 00:47:30.898
I am a very clean woman.

00:47:31.002 --> 00:47:34.314
I can go a year without a bath,
and I won't smell.

00:47:35.047 --> 00:47:39.936
I told you to smell me,
so you can see I don't.

00:47:41.139 --> 00:47:43.330
You can't smell it, Carmen.

00:47:43.354 --> 00:47:47.373
I told you to smell me so you can confirm
I don't smell at all.

00:47:57.619 --> 00:47:59.769
I was born in Stockholm,
in a palace.

00:48:00.056 --> 00:48:05.390
I was kidnapped from the palace
when I was a baby, one month old,

00:48:05.787 --> 00:48:08.557
and was brought
to Sarandí del Yí.

00:48:09.522 --> 00:48:14.101
There, I was raised
by Mr. Carmelo Bonawer Impus,

00:48:15.895 --> 00:48:19.357
and there, I met Sofía,
who was our cook.

00:48:20.247 --> 00:48:23.319
Sofía has known me
since I was a baby.

00:48:23.938 --> 00:48:26.107
My life was a bit...hazardous,

00:48:27.514 --> 00:48:30.882
and now I just want to leave,
I just can't wait.

00:49:00.259 --> 00:49:01.258
Pedrito.

00:49:01.912 --> 00:49:04.083
A very smart cat.

00:49:05.015 --> 00:49:07.541
Doesn't want grandchildren.
Not this young.

00:49:08.396 --> 00:49:09.395
Baby Blue.

00:49:36.102 --> 00:49:39.305
-Sofi, how are you?
-What a goddess!

00:49:39.330 --> 00:49:41.570
-How are you, love?
-Fine, gorgeous.

00:49:41.595 --> 00:49:42.633
This way, honey.

00:49:42.658 --> 00:49:44.834
-You must take off your shoes.
-OK, great.

00:49:45.546 --> 00:49:46.545
I'll do it.

00:50:07.467 --> 00:50:11.849
OK, Rihanna, now show me your temple
and tell me anything you want.

00:50:12.117 --> 00:50:13.809
OK. Come this way.

00:50:15.799 --> 00:50:18.475
Well, here are my saints.

00:50:18.500 --> 00:50:22.606
The most important thing for me
after my daughter and my granny.

00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:26.688
The saints are there, they remain
behind the "parchelera",

00:50:26.713 --> 00:50:31.439
that's how we call it, "parchelera",
well cared for...

00:50:31.787 --> 00:50:36.460
This was part of a "batuque"
held on Sunday, 22nd August.

00:50:36.779 --> 00:50:38.563
To honor my grandmother.

00:50:40.945 --> 00:50:44.373
And this is the Umbanda part.

00:50:44.590 --> 00:50:48.629
This is the part
of the indians, the chief...

00:50:49.399 --> 00:50:50.432
Yes.

00:50:53.819 --> 00:50:58.320
We can go this way.
Here is where we have our rituals.

00:50:58.345 --> 00:51:02.127
We have our rituals here.
We have our sessions.

00:51:02.152 --> 00:51:04.810
Umbanda, Kimbanda...

00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:07.663
This is the reception.
This is my buzios room,

00:51:07.688 --> 00:51:10.440
people wait here
before I see them,

00:51:10.465 --> 00:51:13.001
I work with Buzios over here,

00:51:13.590 --> 00:51:17.316
here it is,
this is my Buzios room.

00:51:17.704 --> 00:51:21.552
Here, I help people
who come for a consult,

00:51:21.757 --> 00:51:27.002
in need of spiritual support,
for whatever type of issue,

00:51:27.348 --> 00:51:29.346
here is where we cast all doubts.

00:51:29.742 --> 00:51:32.853
So that's it.
You're welcome here.

00:51:32.938 --> 00:51:34.478
Everyone is welcome.

00:51:34.502 --> 00:51:38.763
The doors of the Umbanda Temple
"Seven Seas" Oxala Dacum Iemanja Boci...

00:51:39.848 --> 00:51:41.247
are always open.

00:51:58.742 --> 00:52:00.997
-Axe, my dear.
-Axe.

00:52:04.444 --> 00:52:07.154
I've always been like this.
I was raised by my grandma.

00:52:07.200 --> 00:52:11.459
I wasn't myself at eight years old,
but there were hints...

00:52:11.484 --> 00:52:14.425
I knew, I dreamed of being
what I am today.

00:52:14.861 --> 00:52:18.228
Of course. Similar to my story.
I was also raised by my grandmother,

00:52:18.253 --> 00:52:22.609
We used to call it "throwing feathers"
back then, I'm much older than you,

00:52:22.676 --> 00:52:24.771
that's what we called it.
"Throw feathers"

00:52:25.147 --> 00:52:28.169
-It used to mean being effeminate...
-Of course.

00:52:28.194 --> 00:52:31.635
Yes, more delicate, cleaning the house
more often than was normal...

00:52:31.801 --> 00:52:34.858
-So you were accepted, that's great.
-Yes, yes.

00:52:35.169 --> 00:52:36.762
Well, by my grandmother.

00:52:36.907 --> 00:52:40.762
I wasn't as lucky
as many trans girls are now,

00:52:40.967 --> 00:52:43.446
with regard to their parents,
their moms and dads.

00:52:44.954 --> 00:52:48.827
I was not accepted by my parents,
they both rejected me.

00:52:49.105 --> 00:52:53.267
Both of them. But my granny's love
was infinite,

00:52:53.904 --> 00:52:56.590
all my life, since day one,

00:52:56.615 --> 00:53:01.183
my grandmother always cared
for all her grandchildren.

00:53:01.253 --> 00:53:04.820
She always knew that one of them
needed more love, that was me.

00:53:05.193 --> 00:53:10.162
And that's why she ended up
raising me and educating me.

00:53:10.187 --> 00:53:13.714
And me... What I am today,
I owe it all to her.

00:53:52.536 --> 00:53:55.811
So at this stage, how do you
define yourself?

00:53:56.328 --> 00:53:57.921
-Turn your hand now.
-Like this?

00:53:58.085 --> 00:53:59.084
That's it.

00:53:59.975 --> 00:54:01.412
-How I define myself?
-Yes.

00:54:02.620 --> 00:54:07.257
Non binary. It's like...
if they call me he or she, it's fine.

00:54:07.282 --> 00:54:10.056
-Like me, then.
-Or they/them. Yes, exactly.

00:54:12.048 --> 00:54:14.662
It's just not common
for an enby person to get boobs,

00:54:14.687 --> 00:54:16.851
-But some do.
-Of course.

00:54:17.475 --> 00:54:20.760
-You changed your name for legal reasons?
-No, I changed it, no...

00:54:20.785 --> 00:54:23.115
No, not at all, I did it
because I wanted to.

00:54:23.140 --> 00:54:25.933
You know sometimes people
want to travel and their ID...

00:54:25.958 --> 00:54:31.166
Yes, I know, but in my case,
my mom gave me that name, right?

00:54:31.718 --> 00:54:34.770
And I have no relation with my mom,
so it was more about that.

00:54:34.795 --> 00:54:37.315
-Of course.
-I wanted to give myself my own name.

00:54:37.450 --> 00:54:38.970
-Reinvent yourself.
-Exactly.

00:54:38.995 --> 00:54:42.768
But not because I feel like a woman
or anything like that. Not at all.

00:54:44.050 --> 00:54:46.454
In fact, some people in my family
call me Carlos.

00:54:46.479 --> 00:54:48.329
-I don't mind.
-Wow.

00:54:50.512 --> 00:54:52.592
-Yes, that's quite common.
-Yes.

00:54:52.795 --> 00:54:55.019
But it also depends
on the person's position.

00:54:55.044 --> 00:54:56.449
It does, yes. Some people...

00:54:56.474 --> 00:54:58.781
If you ask your family
not to call you that...

00:54:58.814 --> 00:55:02.225
-Sure. Sure.
-Some people cut all ties with the past.

00:55:02.257 --> 00:55:03.256
Yes.

00:55:03.990 --> 00:55:07.114
It mostly happens with guys,
in my case. It happens with guys.

00:55:07.139 --> 00:55:10.270
Sometimes I meet guys
and they treat me like a boy.

00:55:10.418 --> 00:55:12.930
They know me as a girl,
but they treat me as a boy.

00:55:12.955 --> 00:55:15.026
-But that's their kink.
-Sure.

00:55:15.051 --> 00:55:19.546
They like to fantasize about being
with a man, so they call me "daddy, daddy".

00:55:19.839 --> 00:55:21.730
-That never happened to you?
-No.

00:55:21.755 --> 00:55:22.965
Strange.

00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:25.790
I don't date guys.
I date queens.

00:55:27.555 --> 00:55:29.553
So you're like a dyke, then?

00:55:29.578 --> 00:55:31.414
-Like a dyke?
-No, I date sissies.

00:55:31.878 --> 00:55:35.318
-And women too.
-So you're bisexual then.

00:55:35.343 --> 00:55:37.341
-Or pansexual?
-Pansexual, yes.

00:55:37.366 --> 00:55:39.471
-I love that.
-But...

00:55:40.034 --> 00:55:41.473
I don't date men.

00:55:41.498 --> 00:55:44.317
-You don't like masculine men.
-No.

00:55:44.342 --> 00:55:45.596
OK. I get it.

00:55:46.663 --> 00:55:49.220
-I don't know...
-You're just not attracted to them.

00:55:49.245 --> 00:55:53.862
Yes, no, and also it does not happen,
it's like I usually meet different people...

00:55:54.031 --> 00:55:59.529
That's weird, because someone sees you
and you're this sissy who's into guys...

00:55:59.651 --> 00:56:01.729
-Yes, but I'm not.
-And it's not the case.

00:56:02.035 --> 00:56:03.587
-I'll get the glitter.
-OK.

00:56:47.485 --> 00:56:49.483
I'll call my friend, Florencia, OK?

00:56:50.202 --> 00:56:52.738
-Which friend?
-Florencia.

00:56:52.961 --> 00:56:55.292
The one with blue eyes,
you don't remember her.

00:56:56.755 --> 00:56:58.379
You only met her a few times.

00:57:02.022 --> 00:57:04.199
We have a demonstration today.
We're going.

00:57:04.304 --> 00:57:05.699
-Oh.
-Yes.

00:57:07.336 --> 00:57:08.957
What is it about?

00:57:09.375 --> 00:57:13.082
-It's a march for diversity.
-For diversity.

00:57:14.088 --> 00:57:16.996
-Do you know what diversity is?
-Is it about the sex?

00:57:18.111 --> 00:57:19.622
-Sex?
-Sure.

00:57:20.243 --> 00:57:21.270
You could say that.

00:57:21.995 --> 00:57:26.369
It's about people...
who are diverse...

00:57:26.868 --> 00:57:29.227
It could be people of color...

00:57:29.797 --> 00:57:32.924
people of different ages,

00:57:33.227 --> 00:57:34.700
social class,

00:57:35.336 --> 00:57:37.013
people with Down Syndrome,

00:57:37.449 --> 00:57:40.618
everything that is diverse,
that's diversity,

00:57:40.906 --> 00:57:42.904
so the march for diversity...

00:57:43.740 --> 00:57:45.898
People who are diverse,
we go there...

00:57:46.272 --> 00:57:48.394
and also people
who support diversity.

00:57:49.107 --> 00:57:51.300
When you were young,
they didn't exist.

00:57:51.663 --> 00:57:53.878
But there's always been
diverse people.

00:57:54.223 --> 00:57:56.798
-Have you met gay people?
-Excuse me?

00:57:57.145 --> 00:57:58.678
Have you met gays?

00:57:59.895 --> 00:58:02.575
Not really, I never did,
I know they exist.

00:58:04.278 --> 00:58:06.181
-You never knew a gay person?
-No.

00:58:07.566 --> 00:58:09.638
-Lesbians?
-Never.

00:58:10.007 --> 00:58:12.059
-Transsexuals? Know what it means?
-No.

00:58:12.392 --> 00:58:15.385
OK. And why didn't you
interact with gay people?

00:58:15.410 --> 00:58:17.380
-Discrimination?
-It just didn't happen.

00:58:17.405 --> 00:58:19.974
-It didn't.
-I was around normal people.

00:58:20.940 --> 00:58:23.127
Gay people are normal too, Carmen.

00:58:24.287 --> 00:58:28.177
Why do you say that?
You think gays aren't normal?

00:58:30.122 --> 00:58:33.026
-What's that? A man who fancies men?
-Yes.

00:58:33.729 --> 00:58:36.238
-I don't think that's normal.
-Why?

00:58:37.911 --> 00:58:40.916
Because Nature made man and woman.

00:58:41.551 --> 00:58:45.833
And Nature also made men who fancy men
and women who fancy women, dear.

00:58:46.602 --> 00:58:49.315
You got stuck with all those mandates
from the Bible...

00:58:49.409 --> 00:58:50.930
Yes. I believe in the Bible.

00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:52.997
-That's why.
-The ten commandments.

00:58:53.319 --> 00:58:55.433
Yes, that's fine.
I respect that, but...

00:58:56.111 --> 00:59:00.419
In the world there are other things,
apart from what you were taught.

00:59:00.566 --> 00:59:03.332
-Remind me of the ten commandments.
-I can't remember.

00:59:03.357 --> 00:59:05.750
-Thou shall not kill...
-Thou shall not steal.

00:59:05.775 --> 00:59:10.444
Going to mass, taking
the First Communion, which I did...

00:59:10.848 --> 00:59:14.772
you will respect others...
thy neighbour as thyself...

00:59:15.035 --> 00:59:17.033
Well, there's two more,
I don't know...

00:59:17.681 --> 00:59:18.877
No, about seven more.

00:59:21.443 --> 00:59:25.909
I know you've always been
a very respectful woman. I know.

00:59:26.270 --> 00:59:28.546
I know that.
And you only had one man.

00:59:29.327 --> 00:59:32.438
I mean...
With Jaime, your ex-husband...

00:59:32.463 --> 00:59:34.563
-You never had another man?
-No.

00:59:34.673 --> 00:59:37.717
-You never had sex with another man?
-No. Of course not.

00:59:37.906 --> 00:59:40.413
That's great.
After you got divorced...

00:59:41.162 --> 00:59:43.276
-You were like a virgin again...
-Sure.

00:59:43.363 --> 00:59:46.267
Yes, of course. I never had sex
with any man.

00:59:46.329 --> 00:59:47.686
With your ex,
you didn't...?

00:59:47.711 --> 00:59:49.964
That's why I don't have
worms or infections...

00:59:49.989 --> 00:59:53.393
or syphilis, or any of those things
most people in the world have.

00:59:53.792 --> 00:59:56.173
People who don't follow
the Catholic rules.

00:59:56.823 --> 01:00:00.252
They are all sick.
I don't have any disease whatsoever.

01:00:00.905 --> 01:00:05.596
I never had to go to a doctor...
because I had worms...

01:00:05.621 --> 01:00:08.835
or leprosy, AIDS, scabies...

01:00:09.105 --> 01:00:12.006
No, no, I am completely healthy.

01:00:13.409 --> 01:00:15.758
-You had sex with...?
-That's the ideal thing.

01:00:15.943 --> 01:00:17.808
Your ex, did you
have sex with him?

01:00:18.214 --> 01:00:19.299
No. Exactly.

01:00:19.600 --> 01:00:21.446
-You didn't have sex with him?
-No.

01:00:21.681 --> 01:00:23.155
-Never?
-I never did.

01:00:23.180 --> 01:00:25.861
-So you are a virgin.
-Of course. Yes.

01:00:25.886 --> 01:00:28.890
-I cannot believe it.
-That's why I get all those tributes...

01:00:28.915 --> 01:00:32.606
all over the world,
because I am a lady, a saint.

01:00:32.774 --> 01:00:36.228
That's why your husband left you, then.
Because you were frigid.

01:00:36.253 --> 01:00:37.320
No.

01:00:37.928 --> 01:00:41.742
I was an honorable lady
and a very pretty one too,

01:00:41.767 --> 01:00:44.448
as you have seen
in my wedding album.

01:00:44.473 --> 01:00:48.613
I was not... I was quite pretty,
I dressed well...

01:00:48.851 --> 01:00:50.849
an intelligent woman...

01:00:50.987 --> 01:00:54.730
there will be tributes to honor me
all over the world...

01:00:54.841 --> 01:00:58.092
Why? Because I am a degenerate?
Because I have worms?

01:00:58.117 --> 01:01:00.469
No, because I am a saintly woman.

01:01:01.571 --> 01:01:03.947
Everyone can do
as they please.

01:01:04.133 --> 01:01:06.516
That's how I am
and I won't change.

01:01:06.981 --> 01:01:10.965
3,2,1...

01:01:18.121 --> 01:01:20.119
I'd like for the new generations

01:01:20.356 --> 01:01:23.445
to look back and avoid
making the mistakes of the past.

01:01:23.816 --> 01:01:26.692
We must all look to the future

01:01:26.900 --> 01:01:31.664
to build a better society
with respect, with love...

01:01:32.206 --> 01:01:35.309
and always think
the best is yet to come.

01:01:35.478 --> 01:01:39.445
And now, please,
play that song I love so much.

01:01:54.774 --> 01:01:57.510
Transur, everywhere at all times.

01:01:57.945 --> 01:01:59.581
Social Media.

01:02:01.937 --> 01:02:06.281
A wonderful march so far.
I'll post more info tomorrow.

01:02:07.778 --> 01:02:11.730
-Go CTU!
-Go CTU!

01:02:11.834 --> 01:02:14.534
-In memory of murdered transwomen.
-Yes!

01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.323
-Justice! Justice!
-Justice! Justice!

01:02:17.348 --> 01:02:20.035
-Justice! Justice!
-Justice! Justice!

01:02:20.175 --> 01:02:22.707
-Justice! Justice!
-Justice! Justice!

01:02:26.626 --> 01:02:27.648
Come.

01:02:27.711 --> 01:02:28.966
-The mask, please.
-Yes.

01:02:28.991 --> 01:02:31.898
I'll put it on right now, honey,
just give me a second.

01:02:32.051 --> 01:02:33.648
-No, no press.
-Listen, guys...

01:02:33.673 --> 01:02:35.395
The cameras later.
After we stop.

01:02:35.420 --> 01:02:37.869
Now we'll stop
and get the rope down.

01:02:38.205 --> 01:02:41.147
Honey, it's not the press.
They're making a film!

01:02:41.180 --> 01:02:43.379
-I know. We will stop soon.
-I got clearance.

01:03:44.449 --> 01:03:45.572
I'll hold this here.

01:03:47.470 --> 01:03:48.508
Oh, thanks.

01:03:52.435 --> 01:03:54.576
No, move over.
Sit there in the middle.

01:03:56.111 --> 01:03:57.180
A bit further.

01:04:02.674 --> 01:04:03.817
Oh, poor thing.

01:04:10.592 --> 01:04:11.748
There's the cat...

01:04:13.203 --> 01:04:15.627
-And the other cat.
-Hi, Pedra.

01:04:16.067 --> 01:04:17.301
Keep this one close.

01:04:18.930 --> 01:04:22.442
-You can pet him, if you want.
-I'll get scratched.

01:04:29.687 --> 01:04:32.118
OK, quiet. Don't touch her,
she doesn't like it.

01:04:42.482 --> 01:04:44.905
-Are you holding this one?
-Yes, I am.

01:04:48.096 --> 01:04:50.846
-It's so hot in here.
-Move over there. To the middle.

01:04:53.715 --> 01:04:54.745
There you go.

01:04:56.959 --> 01:04:58.457
-What was that?
-The phone.

01:05:00.248 --> 01:05:02.292
Let me get this one
over there.

01:05:05.716 --> 01:05:07.395
-You can pet...
-With the son.

01:05:07.420 --> 01:05:08.815
Do me a favor, please.

01:05:16.922 --> 01:05:19.703
-I find this all so strange.
-Come here, girls.

01:05:21.944 --> 01:05:24.297
-It does look nice around here!
-Have you seen?

01:05:24.734 --> 01:05:25.797
Oh, be careful!

01:05:33.684 --> 01:05:34.903
OK. There.

01:06:03.123 --> 01:06:05.374
-Oh, my, this is horrible.
-Come in.

01:06:05.436 --> 01:06:06.793
-You go in first.
-Terrible.

01:06:07.510 --> 01:06:10.220
-Grab this. Here!
-An old house!

01:06:10.290 --> 01:06:13.145
A horrible old house.
A cave.

01:06:14.204 --> 01:06:16.202
This is so horrible.

01:06:16.788 --> 01:06:20.097
-I don't want to live here, Sofía.
-Well, you'll have to.

01:06:20.402 --> 01:06:23.322
No, I don't want to.
You can stay if you like it.

01:06:23.347 --> 01:06:26.025
-OK. I will.
-I don't like it.

01:06:26.512 --> 01:06:27.939
This is horrible.

01:06:28.957 --> 01:06:31.438
The windows
we had in San Ramón...

01:06:32.454 --> 01:06:33.813
Let's see if I can...

01:06:36.524 --> 01:06:37.561
There you go.

01:06:44.616 --> 01:06:47.038
-And the animals?
-I'm taking you to a room now.

01:06:52.350 --> 01:06:54.531
Look at the ceiling,
how high it is.

01:06:54.785 --> 01:06:58.702
-Yes, so dirty...
-That can be cleaned.

01:07:00.650 --> 01:07:03.543
Look! Jasmines.
Smell the jasmines.

01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:05.481
Smell them.

01:07:07.508 --> 01:07:08.907
We have a tree.

01:07:09.140 --> 01:07:11.629
-We're in Greece!
-Yes, in Greece.

01:07:11.654 --> 01:07:12.653
A mansion.

01:07:13.730 --> 01:07:16.206
This is horrible,
I am used to my house.

01:07:16.762 --> 01:07:18.364
Your house is gone, honey.

01:07:19.367 --> 01:07:21.613
I want to leave, Sofía.
You can stay here.

01:07:21.898 --> 01:07:24.464
-You can leave later.
-I want my house in San Ramón.

01:07:24.489 --> 01:07:26.908
-There is no house in San Ramón!
-Yes, there is.

01:07:26.933 --> 01:07:30.347
-When will you understand that?
-Prove it to me, then.

01:07:30.372 --> 01:07:33.824
You take me there and you tell me:
"See? It's gone". I want to see it.

01:07:34.372 --> 01:07:36.890
Your house is gone.
I won't even get into that.

01:07:37.685 --> 01:07:40.395
You are forcing me to be here.
I don't want to be here.

01:07:40.791 --> 01:07:42.780
-You can stay if you want.
-Yes, I have.

01:07:42.805 --> 01:07:45.255
-I will stay here.
-Fine, I don't want this house.

01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:46.279
It's horrible.

01:07:50.340 --> 01:07:53.562
-I'll let the dogs loose.
-I am lost, drowned in here.

01:07:53.779 --> 01:07:56.467
A horrible street,
gloomy, dismal...

01:08:03.713 --> 01:08:05.338
I don't understand your taste.

01:08:10.598 --> 01:08:13.495
I'll turn the TV on.
Where's the other cat?

01:08:13.892 --> 01:08:14.993
Here.

01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:21.952
-You haven't even seen it, Carmen.
-No, I don't like it.

01:08:21.977 --> 01:08:26.488
No, going this way and that way, no.
I like my huge windows, and the view...

01:08:26.672 --> 01:08:29.115
The promenade,
the beach, the park...

01:08:29.140 --> 01:08:30.646
What are you talking about?

01:08:30.671 --> 01:08:32.014
-San Ramón?
-Yes.

01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:34.408
-My house does exist.
-Your room had no windows.

01:08:34.433 --> 01:08:36.789
-Two huge windows, of course.
-No.

01:08:37.306 --> 01:08:40.310
-You didn't have any windows.
-Two huge windows.

01:08:44.195 --> 01:08:47.036
-Look. Come see the garden.
-I don't like it.

01:08:47.061 --> 01:08:48.060
Well...

01:08:48.410 --> 01:08:51.374
-This is a cave.
-I'll turn on the TV.

01:08:51.399 --> 01:08:54.726
How can I live in Bella Vista?
I live in Prado.

01:08:54.918 --> 01:08:57.717
An industrial, commercial area.
With the promenade,

01:08:57.742 --> 01:09:00.030
all the cars,
the beach, the park...

01:09:00.118 --> 01:09:01.204
Come on, girls.

01:09:02.201 --> 01:09:03.257
Look at this!

01:09:23.122 --> 01:09:24.147
Like it?

01:09:26.031 --> 01:09:28.148
Good! It's lovely, isn't it?

01:09:34.161 --> 01:09:35.804
Come, here, doggie.

01:09:37.001 --> 01:09:38.489
Come on.
Here.

01:10:42.330 --> 01:10:45.129
A question: These ravioli,
do they have a filling?

01:10:45.206 --> 01:10:47.085
-Of course.
-Let me see.

01:10:47.110 --> 01:10:48.600
-Want me to break one?
-Yes.

01:10:48.625 --> 01:10:49.654
Fine.

01:10:49.939 --> 01:10:52.431
-Let me see. And the filling?
-Ricotta.

01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:58.746
That's the filling.
It's not just dough, as you say.

01:10:59.218 --> 01:11:00.222
Not at all.

01:11:01.549 --> 01:11:06.043
I don't know why you said
I get bad ravioli.

01:11:06.527 --> 01:11:10.035
All the ones I ate were just
the dough. Nothing inside.

01:11:10.060 --> 01:11:13.554
This one has a mild cheesy flavor,
can barely taste it.

01:11:14.157 --> 01:11:16.750
-Well, I don't know.
-It should be tastier.

01:11:17.061 --> 01:11:21.176
Everything I buy is good,
I don't buy bad stuff or cheap stuff.

01:11:22.273 --> 01:11:25.634
These things are expensive,
but tasty.

01:11:26.173 --> 01:11:27.742
Any hairdresser's
around here?

01:11:27.767 --> 01:11:29.327
Next door, right next door.

01:11:29.370 --> 01:11:32.492
-Open the door and turn...
-I'll get some silver...no, gold...

01:11:32.516 --> 01:11:36.414
This color looks horrible,
I can't even look at myself.

01:11:37.233 --> 01:11:41.190
Well, you can get any color you want.
I'll introduce you to the hairdresser.

01:11:41.900 --> 01:11:43.222
I don't know her either.

01:11:44.046 --> 01:11:46.325
But we must make friends
in the neighborhood.

01:11:59.507 --> 01:12:02.434
I am... infinite.

01:12:03.286 --> 01:12:05.964
Infinite, front and back.

01:12:06.417 --> 01:12:08.383
I am...

01:12:08.984 --> 01:12:10.685
infinite.