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( music playing )

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Woman:
Caracas is at the epicenter

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of Latin America's
epidemic of violence.

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Man: Last year alone saw
nearly 27,000 killings,

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the second worst
murder rate in the world.

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Woman 2: We're here in an area
called 23 de Enero.

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A lot of shantytowns here,

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and it's very pro-Hugo Chávez,
and also pro-Maduro.

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And it's also home to very
strong leftist activism.

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And people here tell me that
they don't welcome the police.

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They don't want to see
them here because they say

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that the police here
are corrupt.

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Instead, they have groups,
armed groups,

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who maintain
security in this area.

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Officer:
What is the mission of the Tupamaros?

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Our mission is to fight
for the liberation of the people.

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To fight any front that is needed,

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as long as the condition
of the people demands it.

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Chino: What do you want to know
about the gangs?

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Markovits: How do you justify
the violence against them?

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There is nothing to justify.

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You don’t have to justify something
that is justifiable by itself.

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Someone who sells drugs
does not have any rights.

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Someone who sells drugs,
who destroys the lives of children,

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the elderly and the young,
has no rights.

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No right to live.
Bang! Bang!

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( gunfire )

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( chanting in Spanish )

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( chanting )
Chávez! Chávez! Chávez!

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I’m still in shock! I just can’t believe
that I’m sitting here again.

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Chino: Can you imagine
the reaction of the enemy

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when they found out a Tupamaro took over
the security of the Fatherland?

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{\an8}( music playing )

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Male Reporter: This is the first time
he’s shown his face to the world on television.

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Before he was living underground.

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His name is Alberto Carías.

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In Venezuela, he is known
as Commander “Chino” Carías.

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The top-ranking leader
of the paramilitary groups

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that support
the Hugo Chávez government.

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We are back and we are talking
with Alberto Carías,

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who has a bachelor’s degree
in philosophy and liberal arts.

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A lot of people don’t know this.
They greet him with “What’s up, Chino?”

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But whenever I ask him
what he does, he hesitates.

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So I’ll ask him again,
what is the purpose of the Tupamaros?

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( echoing )
Tupamaro, Tupamaro.

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Chino: Our calling is to stand firm
in the fight against American imperialism,

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in the fight against drug dealers

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and the constant fight
for a more dignified and humane society.

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{\an8}Dudley: The Tupamaros
is an urban-based,

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{\an8}quasi-guerrilla
political group.

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{\an8}Their base is
in the 23rd of January,

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a neighborhood in Caracas.

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They started out as
much more of a political group

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with roots in
a guerrilla movement.

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As they evolved,
the Tupamaros became

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more of a vigilante group.

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Do you have any questions
about this machine gun?

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Yeah, how does it work?

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It has three functions.
This is the safety.

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It shoots like a machine gun.

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Hold it straight to attack.

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It’s good for shooting from buildings
and cars that we use as cover.

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We come out and then open fire.

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This is the tripod and the telescopic view.

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You identify the target, okay?
You aim for the moving target.

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And when you have him locked

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Bang! You fire the weapon.

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These are basic fundamentals
that every urban guerrilla,

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every revolutionary fighter
should know, especially now.

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( sirens wailing )

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Markovits: Do you trust them
more than the police?

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- Truthfully? Yes!
- Why is that?

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Because they are in constant contact
with the community.

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What I know about the Tupamaros
is that they are violent people.

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And I think that’s very dangerous
for the country and the capital.

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( music playing )

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The notion that the Tupamaros

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kill the drug dealers
could be true.

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{\an8}But the other side
of that story

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{\an8}is that they kill
drug traffickers

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{\an8}who are rivals.

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{\an8}That they are seeking control

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{\an8}of specific territories.

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{\an8}I think that they're
somewhere in between.

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There's so many factions
of a group like the Tupamaros

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{\an8}that it's hard to paint them
with a broad brush,

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{\an8}to say that they are
one or the other.

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{\an8}I mean, it may depend
on what leader--

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{\an8}what specific leader
you're talking about

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{\an8}in what particular area.

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{\an8}( men chanting )
Strength! Union! For a great nation!

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Fatherland or Death!
We will win! Fatherland or Death!

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We will win!
Until victory! Always!

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Unfortunately,
paramilitaries are making a strong effort

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drop by drop in this community.

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They are penetrating the area
with large amounts of drugs.

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What makes us different
from the repressive state forces,

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is that we will never be bought
or negotiate with drug dealers.

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What we do is take back the areas...

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that the gangs and drug dealers
try to control.

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So that the communities feel our presence,

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and know that we’ll always be on alert.

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Our violence is not against civilians
or against the defenseless.

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And when we say
American imperialism

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must be attacked,
even on its own soil,

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we are not talking about the American people
but the economic model.

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Man:
Caracas, 16% unemployed

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and the government
can do nothing.

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A terrible shortage
of houses.

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The government can
barely begin.

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The United States'
oil companies boom.

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Money does not come
into these streets.

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( no audible dialogue )

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{\an8}Ciccariello-Maher:
Probably the best way

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{\an8}for Americans to really begin to grasp
and to begin to understand

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{\an8}this Tupamaro phenomenon
in Venezuela

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{\an8}is to think of something
like the Black Panthers.

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Here's an organic organization
that emerges

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from impoverished communities
as a way of resisting

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the violence within communities
and the violence of the state,

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and specifically
of the police.

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Something very similar happens in Venezuela.
These communities are deprived,

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they don't have
social services,

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they don't have access
to education and public space.

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And at the same time, they are targeted
by a campaign of eradication

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through the police
and the military,

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but also through the scourge
of narcotrafficking.

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Chino: I was born
in a working class slum in Caracas,

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in extreme poverty.

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When I was six years old,
I’d leave my house at five in the morning.

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The gangs would protect me.

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They knew I was supporting
my mother and they respected that.

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I was a hothead.
I liked to fight.

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They told my mother
she was raising a psychopath

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because I got into
so much trouble at school.

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When I was seven years old,
I poked out my classmate’s eye

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with a piece of cardboard.

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{\an8}( dogs barking )

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{\an8}- How are you doing?
- Come in.

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What’s up? Everybody left
when I told them I was coming.

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No, Mario went out to get dog food
because we ran out.

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Come on in.

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Well, you should have told me.

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I sent what Francisco told me to get,
sugar and flour.

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I don’t have your phone number.

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We’ll bring it on Monday.
What else do you need?

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Well, people say he was on drugs
when he hit me with his car.

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And he didn’t even get out
of his car to help.

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Chino: That son-of-a-bitch
had already killed 14 people.

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They used to call him “Shitty Juan.”

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We looked really hard for this guy,
until we finally found that son-of-a-bitch.

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That gangster was hiding out
for about three years.

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After a hard search I finally found him.
He didn’t know me either.

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I asked him if he was “Shitty Juan”
and he said, “Yes.”

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Then I asked him “Do you know who I am?”
and he said “No.”

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So I told him, “I am Death.”
And he asked, “Chino Carías?”

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and I told him “Chino Carías.”

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And from that day on well,
the whole barrio knows the tale.

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And there ends the story
of the famous “Shitty Juan.”

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Bless our meal and our family, too.

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Protect the humble
and all the poor of the world.

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In the name of the Father, the Son
and the Holy Spirit. Amen.

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And we're off!

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Veronica: Of course everyone knows
I’m his daughter.

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Markovits:
And it causes problems for you?

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Veronica: Of course.
It’s got its negative and positive aspects.

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Well, the negative part,

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just like he has friends,
he also has enemies.

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Not everyone is happy
with the way he acts

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and how he does things.

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So it’s not always wise to say
I’m his daughter.

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It’s not easy knowing that when he goes out
the police could get him at any moment.

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Anyone who has had problems with him

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in the past might come after him.

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What’s up? Watch out!

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I’m not messing around, you devil.

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Where is your mom?

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Go tiger, go!

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Let me bat.

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Keep your belly over there.

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Just one pitch.

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That’s how you do it!

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Let’s get a beer, man!

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Vicente: It’s been so long since
Chino’s been here,

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he doesn’t know his way around!

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What bullshit is this guy saying?

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No. No.

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This is a friend of mine from childhood.
Valentine.

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- Vicente.
- Vicentine.

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He was a police officer
in the previous government.

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Son-of-a-bitch!
But he never messed with me.

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- Or did you?
- Never.

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- Thank God.
- We never had problems.

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- How much is it?
- Six.

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You know they are filming you?

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Give me ten you son-of-a-bitch.
I’ll pay six.

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You know they are filming you.

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Hey, I’m just screwing around.
Cheers!

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You remember that time
we robbed the Mercantile bank?

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They killed all our comrades.
I was the only one who survived.

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You were the one who tipped me off,
“Chino, watch out!”

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Are you really filming this?

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Yes, yes. But that was in the past.

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Hey, how are you?

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I was waiting for you so we could visit
the big leader’s house.

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He lives here with his wife and baby.
He leads a very humble life.

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He’s a very popular man here.
That’s why people call him “Mao.”

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Mao is a very good military strategist.

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He knows how to make
every type of bomb,

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“Molotovs,” “Casa bobos,”
“Stunners,” “Nipples,”

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which we don’t use anymore.
Now we use “Bin Ladens.”

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Hey, Mao! How are you?

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Come in. Hello.
I’m with the baby.

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Markovits: Many people in the opposition say
the Tupamaros are terrorists.

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Mao:
Well, that’s completely untrue.

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What we believe and what we have shown
is that from the beginning,

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our movement was one of resistance,
a revolutionary struggle.

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It was started in the late ‘80s.

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And yes, we do operations
to defend the community.

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For example, are you a terrorist
if you attack drug dealers?

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Are you a terrorist if you attack
corrupt police

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or state forces?

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In the early ‘80s,

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Venezuela was going
through a difficult time.

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That was the moment when the fight
for social justice was growing.

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At that time we would hijack food trucks
from foreign companies

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and we would bring the food here
and people would come for it.

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And we would share it with everyone.

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( speaking on radio )

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Chino: The times I’ve been accused
of murdering police.

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I was never there.

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I have been jailed for the murders
of about eight police officers.

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But when those things would happen
in Venezuela at that time,

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you would hear, “They killed a police officer.”
“It was Chino Carías.”

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If a national guardsman was killed,
“Chino Carías!”

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I was always the one they blamed.

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Because I was the one
who controlled 23 de Enero.

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Chino: We were all jailed.
Chichi, Mao,

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Oscar, a bunch of our friends.

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Have you seen the movie
The Killer Rat?

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Okay, there was a rat, this big.

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It was missing an ear and an eye.

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It looked like it came
from the Vietnam war.

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It would come out of this hole
to see if we had food and water.

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We had to stop eating to feed
that rat and 20 other rats.

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If we didn’t give them food,
they would attack us.

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Woman: Venezuela's president
says all of the rebels

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who tried to take over
the government today

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{\an8}have either surrendered
or have been defeated.

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{\an8}Man: The government paraded the man
it said masterminded the coup attempt,

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{\an8}Commander Hugo Chávez,
who told his followers to surrender.

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Unfortunately for now,

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the goals we set out to achieve
were not accomplished in the capital.

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( gunfire )

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We participated
in the 1992 military coup.

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But our mission failed.

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But we assumed it with humility.

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We didn’t betray anyone.

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We realized that this was
no longer the path for us to take.

00:19:52.291 --> 00:19:55.708
( chanting in Spanish )

00:19:55.791 --> 00:20:01.000
( chanting in Spanish )

00:20:05.458 --> 00:20:07.916
( chanting continues )

00:20:14.583 --> 00:20:20.458
I declare you to be the president
by law of the constitution of the Republic.

00:20:20.541 --> 00:20:24.375
( applause )

00:20:24.416 --> 00:20:26.208
( cheering )

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Dudley: Beginning with
the ascension of Chávez,

00:20:30.666 --> 00:20:33.875
Chino and some of his factions
within the Tupamaros

00:20:33.958 --> 00:20:38.125
{\an8}began to take a more
public position

00:20:38.208 --> 00:20:39.541
{\an8}that was pro-government.

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And over time,
they also began

00:20:42.458 --> 00:20:45.208
to be integrated inside
of the government.

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- At the National Assembly.
- Same old place?

00:20:48.333 --> 00:20:51.458
Yeah, but I’m a political advisor now.
They moved me to the seventh floor.

00:20:51.541 --> 00:20:54.125
I got a question for you.
Remember my aunt, the doctor?

00:20:54.208 --> 00:20:56.083
- Of course.
- She has a little problem.

00:20:56.166 --> 00:21:00.750
They took away her food stamps.
Do you know anybody that can help her?

00:21:00.833 --> 00:21:03.166
Of course, the vice-minister.
He’s one of us.

00:21:03.250 --> 00:21:05.916
She only has five months left.

00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:07.875
Write down my number.

00:21:08.916 --> 00:21:14.875
0-4-2-4-2-7-5-4-3-4-7.

00:21:14.958 --> 00:21:17.000
When can I bother you?

00:21:17.083 --> 00:21:20.208
You’re not bothering me,
I’m a public servant.

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{\an8}Kyriakou: One of Chávez's
most important achievements

00:21:26.916 --> 00:21:30.416
{\an8}was helping to redistribute
oil wealth to the poor.

00:21:30.458 --> 00:21:32.416
{\an8}A lot of that money went into

00:21:32.458 --> 00:21:35.833
{\an8}lowering Venezuela's
poverty rate.

00:21:35.916 --> 00:21:38.833
Later, Chávez embraced
a lot of the colectivo groups

00:21:38.916 --> 00:21:41.291
like the Tupamaros
and put them in charge

00:21:41.333 --> 00:21:44.083
of administering
government projects.

00:21:44.166 --> 00:21:47.833
In 2006,
Chávez officially recognized

00:21:47.916 --> 00:21:50.583
some of these citizen groups
like the Tupamaros

00:21:50.666 --> 00:21:53.583
and called them "colectivos."
After that point,

00:21:53.666 --> 00:21:55.875
they got access
to government funding.

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- Hello!
- Zamora: Good afternoon.

00:22:01.250 --> 00:22:04.333
- The revolution has arrived!
- Zamora: Chino!

00:22:04.375 --> 00:22:09.375
Hello, how are you?
How are the comrades at the soup kitchen?

00:22:09.416 --> 00:22:13.333
Hey, Chino.
Thanks for coming again.

00:22:14.541 --> 00:22:17.583
Did you already hand out
all the food?

00:22:17.666 --> 00:22:20.375
- In the meantime we can taste it, right?
- Zamora: Of course!

00:22:20.416 --> 00:22:24.250
Why not.
One day I will cook for you.

00:22:24.291 --> 00:22:29.916
Chino makes very good bread with sardines.
It’s like a war meal.

00:22:30.958 --> 00:22:36.791
And with spam. Spam was the meal
the poor ate in previous governments.

00:22:36.875 --> 00:22:42.125
Oh, and “mondongo” stew
because people like sex and “mondongo...”

00:22:43.166 --> 00:22:44.416
and alcohol!

00:22:46.583 --> 00:22:49.750
Markovits: How do Chino
and the Tupamaros help this place?

00:22:51.041 --> 00:22:53.250
Well, for example,
if there is a social problem,

00:22:53.291 --> 00:22:56.041
like a health problem,

00:22:56.125 --> 00:23:01.333
we tell him, “Look Chino,
there is a woman who has a problem.

00:23:01.375 --> 00:23:03.041
She needs a cane or a wheelchair.”

00:23:03.125 --> 00:23:06.541
So we go to him
for the very expensive medicines.

00:23:06.625 --> 00:23:10.333
We talk to him. I don’t know how he does it,
but he performs miracles.

00:23:10.375 --> 00:23:12.791
The Tupamaros!

00:23:12.875 --> 00:23:18.500
You don’t know how much
I wish I had been a Tupamaro.

00:23:18.583 --> 00:23:23.500
They’ve not only helped Venezuela,
but they are like Robin Hood.

00:23:23.583 --> 00:23:26.166
Do you remember Robin Hood?

00:23:26.250 --> 00:23:28.750
They are helping this revolution.
They are helping the people.

00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:41.416
( chanting in Spanish )

00:23:44.375 --> 00:23:47.208
Markovits: Chávez's policies angered
the middle and upper classes

00:23:47.250 --> 00:23:48.500
and also the United States...

00:23:48.583 --> 00:23:50.125
{\an8}Let’s send him back to Cuba!

00:23:50.208 --> 00:23:54.208
{\an8}Markovits: ...who thought that his vow
to redistribute the oil wealth

00:23:54.250 --> 00:23:57.833
{\an8}would affect their interests.

00:23:57.916 --> 00:24:00.875
People were on the street
protesting his government.

00:24:00.958 --> 00:24:04.041
( shouting in Spanish )

00:24:05.541 --> 00:24:11.375
Mao: We already knew
that they were organizing a coup.

00:24:11.416 --> 00:24:14.500
( gunfire )

00:24:15.958 --> 00:24:17.041
They shot him!

00:24:18.250 --> 00:24:23.083
Officer: We have decided on behalf
of the Venezuelan people

00:24:23.166 --> 00:24:27.791
to withdraw our support
for the current government.

00:24:27.875 --> 00:24:30.833
It’s finally clear this is a coup.

00:24:30.916 --> 00:24:34.083
The president has refused to resign.

00:24:35.666 --> 00:24:38.416
He is being taken as a prisoner.
This is a coup.

00:24:38.500 --> 00:24:42.083
That’s when we started
preparing our groups,

00:24:42.166 --> 00:24:46.416
gathering the weapons,
organizing combat units.

00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:48.958
We started mobilizing
all of 23 de Enero.

00:24:49.041 --> 00:24:50.583
People started coming down...

00:24:50.666 --> 00:24:53.833
( chanting in Spanish )

00:24:53.916 --> 00:24:56.500
Mao:
...and we took strategic positions.

00:24:57.541 --> 00:25:01.375
When we arrived at the presidential palace
the grand battle began.

00:25:01.416 --> 00:25:03.541
( gunfire )

00:25:10.125 --> 00:25:12.708
( gunfire continues )

00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:21.041
Chino: We worked
with other guerrilla organizations

00:25:21.125 --> 00:25:24.708
and social groups,
other Bolivarian organizations

00:25:24.791 --> 00:25:27.833
and we decided to take
out our weapons and put on our masks

00:25:27.916 --> 00:25:31.000
to reestablish our constitutional order.

00:25:32.083 --> 00:25:35.416
( chanting )
Chávez! Chávez! Chávez!

00:25:35.458 --> 00:25:38.875
( chanting continues )

00:25:42.250 --> 00:25:44.833
{\an8}What people don't realize
about the 13th of April,

00:25:44.916 --> 00:25:46.791
{\an8}about the day that Chávez
was returned to power,

00:25:46.875 --> 00:25:50.208
{\an8}was that is was not just the military
deciding to return him to power,

00:25:50.250 --> 00:25:52.791
but that it was something that was forced
upon the military

00:25:52.875 --> 00:25:56.583
by these popular organizations. And it wasn't
just the millions who took to the streets,

00:25:56.666 --> 00:26:00.583
it was this vanguard that went down first
that made it possible for these millions

00:26:00.666 --> 00:26:03.791
to occupy the streets and demand
that Chávez be returned to power.

00:26:03.875 --> 00:26:05.916
I’m still in shock!

00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:09.000
I just can’t believe
that I’m sitting here again

00:26:09.083 --> 00:26:11.083
only 48 hours later.

00:26:11.166 --> 00:26:14.833
# Ooh! Ah!
Chávez no se va! #

00:26:14.916 --> 00:26:18.166
# Ooh! Ah! Chávez no se va! #

00:26:18.250 --> 00:26:20.208
( music playing )

00:26:26.666 --> 00:26:29.208
{\an8}After the coup, Chávez put
even Tupamaro leaders

00:26:29.250 --> 00:26:31.416
{\an8}in the upper reaches
of government.

00:26:31.458 --> 00:26:35.000
{\an8}In 2004, Chino was appointed
by the Caracas mayor

00:26:35.083 --> 00:26:37.583
{\an8}to be Deputy Secretary
of Urban Security

00:26:37.666 --> 00:26:39.583
{\an8}for the whole city
of the capital city,

00:26:39.666 --> 00:26:42.000
{\an8}the biggest city in Venezuela.

00:26:42.083 --> 00:26:45.583
{\an8}Chino, a man who was accused
of being a cop killer,

00:26:45.666 --> 00:26:49.833
{\an8}was now one of the people
in charge of the cops.

00:26:49.916 --> 00:26:53.375
Can you imagine
the reaction of the enemy

00:26:53.416 --> 00:26:57.916
when they found out a Tupamaro
took over the security of the Fatherland?

00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:01.250
Just three months earlier
we had an armed confrontation with them.

00:27:01.291 --> 00:27:03.458
Three months later,
I’m their boss.

00:27:08.250 --> 00:27:09.750
Markovits:
How did you feel

00:27:09.833 --> 00:27:12.458
when a Tupamaro was put
in charge of the police?

00:27:15.750 --> 00:27:18.250
Uncomfortable.

00:27:18.291 --> 00:27:21.125
Look, we knew them.

00:27:22.375 --> 00:27:26.708
We did intel
so we could catch them in the act.

00:27:26.791 --> 00:27:28.458
And now they’re our bosses?

00:27:29.750 --> 00:27:32.875
It’s uncomfortable.
It’s uncomfortable.

00:27:37.458 --> 00:27:39.416
It’s a true anomaly.

00:27:39.458 --> 00:27:42.750
You can’t put the leader of an armed group
in charge of the police.

00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.416
No matter what the criteria,

00:27:48.500 --> 00:27:53.166
you can’t allow these kinds of groups
to police any society.

00:27:53.250 --> 00:27:55.541
It’s not allowed
by any type of government.

00:27:55.625 --> 00:27:58.375
Left, right, north or south.

00:27:58.416 --> 00:28:01.208
{\an8}( gunfire )

00:28:01.250 --> 00:28:03.291
{\an8}Throughout Chávez's
time in office,

00:28:03.333 --> 00:28:05.416
{\an8}Venezuela became
a major transit route

00:28:05.458 --> 00:28:07.833
{\an8}for Colombian cocaine
heading for Europe

00:28:07.916 --> 00:28:09.083
{\an8}and to the United States.

00:28:09.166 --> 00:28:10.583
{\an8}( crowd chanting in Spanish )

00:28:10.666 --> 00:28:13.000
{\an8}Demonstrations against
soaring crime rates

00:28:13.083 --> 00:28:15.833
{\an8}are growing in Caracas.

00:28:15.916 --> 00:28:19.125
Woman: On weekends,
wards in hospitals fill up.

00:28:19.208 --> 00:28:21.916
It makes this city more
dangerous than Baghdad.

00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.916
But most murders happen here
inside the barrio.

00:28:26.958 --> 00:28:32.083
Markotivs: How does it work
when there is a drug dealer in the barrio?

00:28:32.166 --> 00:28:37.625
Do you warn them first or do you just go at
them right away? Do you give a warning?

00:28:37.750 --> 00:28:39.750
No, we go and talk to them first.

00:28:39.833 --> 00:28:41.458
- Markovits: And what happens?
- And we warn them.

00:28:41.541 --> 00:28:43.541
If they continue
with their criminal actions.

00:28:43.625 --> 00:28:45.333
Bang! Bang!

00:28:45.375 --> 00:28:49.375
Markovits:
How many warnings do you give them?

00:28:49.416 --> 00:28:51.333
Two at most.

00:28:51.375 --> 00:28:54.166
Markovits: What if they say,
“No, we won’t leave!”

00:28:54.250 --> 00:28:59.333
Well, then we kindly invite them
to leave the barrio

00:28:59.375 --> 00:29:02.541
or the sector that’s controlled
by the Tupamaros.

00:29:02.625 --> 00:29:04.500
Markovits:
And if they still don’t leave?

00:29:04.583 --> 00:29:07.541
Well, let me repeat.
Bang! Bang!

00:29:07.625 --> 00:29:10.708
You have to shoot those sons of bitches.
There is no other way

00:29:11.750 --> 00:29:14.125
- Chino: Hey friend!
- Man: How have you been?

00:29:14.208 --> 00:29:16.791
So how are things?
What’s going on?

00:29:18.625 --> 00:29:23.416
{\an8}The fact that Chino
is a public official

00:29:23.458 --> 00:29:26.125
{\an8}or works for a national entity

00:29:26.208 --> 00:29:29.750
{\an8}and can still claim
that he assassinates people

00:29:29.833 --> 00:29:32.208
and that these
assassinations do not

00:29:32.250 --> 00:29:33.833
end up in a court of law,

00:29:33.916 --> 00:29:36.833
speaks really to
the system in Venezuela,

00:29:36.916 --> 00:29:41.416
the current state of
Venezuela's judicial system,

00:29:41.458 --> 00:29:43.875
which is virtually
non-existent.

00:29:43.958 --> 00:29:46.958
Three, four. Go! Go! Go!
Go! Find him!

00:29:54.250 --> 00:29:58.416
Corredor:
...when you’re doing a raid,

00:29:58.458 --> 00:30:00.750
do you sometimes keep the drugs
and not report it?

00:30:00.833 --> 00:30:03.000
Yes. What can you do?

00:30:05.916 --> 00:30:08.416
To be honest,

00:30:08.458 --> 00:30:12.083
and maybe this is
an incriminating answer,

00:30:12.166 --> 00:30:15.083
but only people
without money go to jail.

00:30:17.125 --> 00:30:19.208
Those with money don’t go to jail.

00:30:19.250 --> 00:30:24.541
Markovits:
I can see that you feel bad about it.

00:30:27.791 --> 00:30:31.083
Of course I do, it’s logical.

00:30:31.166 --> 00:30:34.500
You’re harming people.

00:30:34.583 --> 00:30:37.958
Harming the country,
humanity and the community.

00:30:41.083 --> 00:30:43.333
Markovits:
Why?

00:30:43.375 --> 00:30:48.833
Corredor: The low salary we have
doesn’t even cover half of our basic needs.

00:30:49.875 --> 00:30:52.458
Markovits:
How much is a policeman’s salary?

00:30:52.541 --> 00:30:55.875
A police officer makes
around $100 a month.

00:30:58.541 --> 00:31:01.000
Markovits:
How would you describe that salary?

00:31:01.083 --> 00:31:02.500
Awful.

00:31:15.541 --> 00:31:17.708
How’re you doing, Chino?

00:31:19.416 --> 00:31:23.458
Chino: Legally I’m supposed to get here
at nine and work until five.

00:31:23.541 --> 00:31:25.708
But I like to come in
at six in the morning.

00:31:25.791 --> 00:31:28.583
When you are a public servant,
you have to set an example.

00:31:30.166 --> 00:31:32.166
Me? Just working.

00:31:35.125 --> 00:31:38.708
All right, dude. Hugs, comrade.

00:31:38.791 --> 00:31:43.416
Long live Chávez! Onward!
Onward ahead!

00:31:45.333 --> 00:31:49.833
We have the name
“The Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement.”

00:31:49.916 --> 00:31:55.500
You have to remember
that Tupac Amaru was the last inca.

00:31:55.583 --> 00:32:00.916
He was captured
and in a plaza in Peru

00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:03.000
they tied him to five horses.

00:32:03.083 --> 00:32:07.083
His body was dismembered.

00:32:07.166 --> 00:32:09.875
And like the legend says,

00:32:09.958 --> 00:32:13.625
even though
they dismembered his arms,

00:32:13.750 --> 00:32:18.250
his skin and his torso

00:32:18.291 --> 00:32:21.625
they could never take away his spirit.

00:32:21.750 --> 00:32:26.375
His rebellious, revolutionary, Inca spirit.

00:32:30.666 --> 00:32:33.416
{\an8}I do believe that Chino
has had a lot of contact

00:32:33.458 --> 00:32:37.041
{\an8}with other militant groups
around the region.

00:32:37.125 --> 00:32:39.416
These contacts are also contacts

00:32:39.458 --> 00:32:43.416
that the Chávez government
has had for a long time,

00:32:43.458 --> 00:32:46.833
and Chino would be
the type of person

00:32:46.916 --> 00:32:51.166
they would use as a conduit
to these types of groups.

00:32:51.250 --> 00:32:54.041
No, I travel legally.
I don’t travel secretly.

00:32:54.125 --> 00:32:56.541
Markovits:
Isn’t Interpol following you?

00:32:56.625 --> 00:32:58.958
No. Only the CIA and the FBI
are after me.

00:32:59.041 --> 00:33:03.166
That is what Germany’s
anti-terrorist unit told me.

00:33:03.250 --> 00:33:05.750
I don’t leave Venezuela
to commit terrorist acts.

00:33:05.833 --> 00:33:08.875
International groups invite me.

00:33:08.958 --> 00:33:14.916
They invite me via email to go and sell
the greatness of Bolivarian revolution.

00:34:04.250 --> 00:34:07.000
{\an8}The station has been attacked!

00:34:07.083 --> 00:34:11.833
{\an8}In 2009, a Tupamaro colectivo
attacked Globovisión,

00:34:11.916 --> 00:34:14.833
{\an8}an anti-Chávez news channel.

00:34:14.916 --> 00:34:16.583
It created quite a backlash,

00:34:16.666 --> 00:34:18.583
and publicly Chávez
denounced the attack.

00:34:18.666 --> 00:34:22.583
{\an8}But one has to wonder
if Chávez was only publicly

00:34:22.666 --> 00:34:26.041
{\an8}distancing himself,
playing good cop, bad cop.

00:34:26.125 --> 00:34:28.375
I cannot believe

00:34:28.416 --> 00:34:29.958
there are groups

00:34:33.250 --> 00:34:36.416
that claim to be revolutionaries

00:34:36.500 --> 00:34:39.625
but they are acting against the revolution.

00:34:39.750 --> 00:34:44.625
They say they support Chávez
but instead they are stabbing me in the back.

00:34:45.666 --> 00:34:48.541
Chino:
I think it was a political mistake.

00:34:48.625 --> 00:34:54.208
One thing that I’m certain of
is that you can’t give up your men

00:34:54.250 --> 00:34:56.000
and women to the enemy,

00:34:56.083 --> 00:35:00.375
the people who defend your government
on a silver platter.

00:35:00.416 --> 00:35:02.208
Markovits:
So why did he do it?

00:35:02.250 --> 00:35:04.083
You would have to ask him.

00:35:12.208 --> 00:35:14.125
Mao:
There is yearning for power.

00:35:14.208 --> 00:35:17.708
There are a lot of groups
that want power,

00:35:17.791 --> 00:35:22.500
but they can’t have it
because Chávez is the grand leader.

00:35:31.291 --> 00:35:36.125
It has been decided,
it necessary,

00:35:36.208 --> 00:35:38.875
and absolutely essential

00:35:38.958 --> 00:35:44.291
to submit myself
to a second round of surgery.

00:35:44.333 --> 00:35:50.125
My firm opinion,
as clear as the full moon.

00:35:50.208 --> 00:35:55.291
Irrevocable. Absolute. Total.

00:35:56.750 --> 00:36:00.625
In the event that
we will be forced to call,

00:36:00.750 --> 00:36:05.916
as the Constitution demands,
a new presidential election,

00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:09.166
I urge you to elect Nicolás Maduro

00:36:09.250 --> 00:36:13.833
as president of the
Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.

00:36:13.916 --> 00:36:16.375
I ask you from the bottom of my heart.

00:36:16.416 --> 00:36:21.416
# Down the rumor of the warriors #

00:36:21.458 --> 00:36:26.791
# That happens bulletproof #

00:36:26.875 --> 00:36:31.583
# And fast with jealous iron dragons #

00:36:31.666 --> 00:36:36.416
# That guard the Fatherland
that heaven gave us #

00:36:36.458 --> 00:36:41.000
# Fatherland, Fatherland,
beloved Fatherland #

00:36:41.083 --> 00:36:45.833
# My sky is yours,
my sun is yours #

00:36:45.916 --> 00:36:49.166
# Fatherland, you are my life #

00:36:49.250 --> 00:36:53.541
# You are my soul, you are my love #

00:36:59.125 --> 00:37:03.791
Because immortal men like Chávez
never die!

00:37:03.875 --> 00:37:08.416
They remain in every corner
of the Fatherland!

00:37:08.458 --> 00:37:11.500
In each farmer!
In every student!

00:37:11.583 --> 00:37:14.208
In each working man! Jackals!

00:37:14.250 --> 00:37:18.958
That’s what the American imperialist
mercenary servants are!

00:37:19.041 --> 00:37:24.166
The fight goes on! Chávez lives on!

00:37:24.250 --> 00:37:26.291
The fight goes on!

00:37:30.416 --> 00:37:33.000
{\an8}Man: Official results
indicate Nicolas Maduro

00:37:33.083 --> 00:37:38.166
{\an8}won Sunday's national poll
with 50.7% of the vote.

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Maduro declared
victory for himself,

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and the Chávez socialist legacy
he vowed to preserve.

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{\an8}Woman: Venezuela has the largest
proven oil reserves in the world,

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{\an8}yet just last month
had to devalue its currency,

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dropping five zeroes
from the Bolivar

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to try to slow
runaway inflation.

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Man: The country's economy,
which depends heavily on oil,

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has been crippled by low
crude prices for many months.

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Woman:
Venezuela is suffering

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chronic shortages
of goods and products,

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from milk and bread
to antibiotics,

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a situation that forces people
to spend entire days

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waiting in long lines
at supermarkets.

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Man: With an economic crisis
across the border,

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{\an8}more and more Venezuelans
are crossing into Colombia,

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{\an8}now home
to the biggest community

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{\an8}of Venezuelan expats
in South America.

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( shouting )

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( explosions )

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( gunfire )

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( explosions )

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Chino: I believe these violent protests
have been one of the strongest attempts

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by the United States

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to destroy this democracy.

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This violence that they are committing,
we are going to stop it.

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I am saying this carefully.

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We are going to stop it!
On the streets, with our people.

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{\an8}Markovits: Reports started
coming in that masked men

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{\an8}were attacking these
anti-government demonstrators.

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{\an8}This allegedly happened
across the country,

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{\an8}resulting in the deaths
of multiple protestors.

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The opposition claimed
they were Tupamaro colectivos

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defending
the Maduro government.

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{\an8}I mean, I know police,
national guard troops,

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{\an8}these private militias,
thugs, as you said,

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{\an8}have been swarming
through the streets.

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They are criminal gangs
who have military weapons

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who terrorize cities and communities.

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These military weapons
come from the state.

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The big question
that all Venezuelans ask is:

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why don’t the security forces
dismantle these groups?

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The Tupamaros had
the city of Merida surrounded all day.

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And what did we see?
That neither the National Guard

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nor the state police confront them.
Instead they repressed the students.

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The Tupamaros are accused
of not only committing violent acts,

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but of murdering students and civilians.

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First, I want to make this clear
to the American people,

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and to the people of the world.

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We condemn all violence.

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I am going to tell you something.
We have never been armed.

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Then whom do you hold responsible
for the death of the students?

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For example, Geraldine,
whose face was destroyed?

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Let me repeat,
what is their objective?

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Bathing the streets
of Caracas in blood.

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They’re infiltrating us, man!
They’re demented!

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{\an8}Dudley:
Chino is a gregarious

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{\an8}and vociferous advocate
of what he does.

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{\an8}But at the same time,
I always got the impression

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that some of what he said was

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if not false, certainly hollow.

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Certainly the amount
of control, for example,

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that he had over
his other Tupamaro comrades,

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I would say, was less
than what he would portray.

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( chanting in Spanish )

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{\an8}Markovits: As Chavismo becomes
more institutionalized,

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{\an8}the colectivos
have become more political.

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{\an8}Before Chávez died,
long-time leader José Pinto

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{\an8}launched an official
Tupamaro political party.

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At first, Chino
was a part of it.

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I wrote the party manifesto,

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but I made it clear,

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if we become a political party,

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we would not stop being
a guerrilla organization.

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And that’s where
the contradictions started.

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( gunshots )

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- Markovits: Who tried to kill him?
- Chino: We don’t know.

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Remember that Pinto
has a lot of problems

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because he’s made a living off politics.

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He hasn’t lived to be a revolutionary,

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instead he has made a living
off the revolution.

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First of all, Chino Carías
has absolutely nothing to do

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with the Tupamaro
revolutionary movement.

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The other thing is, we don’t have
any kind of link with that person.

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For us, he is a double agent.

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A double agent
for the U.S. State Department.

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{\an8}Dudley: There's something else
at play as well,

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{\an8}which is often
not publicly stated,

00:43:06.541 --> 00:43:09.750
{\an8}but is really at the heart
of a lot of these

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{\an8}battles between factions
amongst the Tupamaros,

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{\an8}and that's money.

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How are they going to
channel the money?

00:43:16.083 --> 00:43:18.000
Who is going to
receive that money?

00:43:18.083 --> 00:43:21.000
How are they going to
administer the projects?

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And then within that,
the hidden part is

00:43:24.208 --> 00:43:26.750
who is going to
get the kickbacks?

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Makovits:
What if something happens to your father?

00:43:30.041 --> 00:43:32.041
Veronica:
What if something happens to him?

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Yes.

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Sometimes I think about it,
I’m not going to lie to you. I do think about it.

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And I do get that fear
because it’ll never be easy.

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Because I adore him,
and he knows it.

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He is a fundamental pillar in my life.

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I don’t see my life without him.

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Markovits: If somebody touched
one of your children,

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what would you do?

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I will take full responsibility to make sure
he’s a dead man. Bang! Bang!

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Like in the Wild West.

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The problem is with me,
not my family.

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If something happens to me,
they will be on their own,

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under the care of my daughter
and my oldest son.

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But I can’t see that happening.

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Although nature says that children
should bury their parents,

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I don’t think
this is the time for me to go.

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If death catches up with me,

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I welcome it.
I’m prepared for it,

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and much more.

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Markovits: Are you not worried when you die,
you won’t go to heaven?

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I’m not going to heaven.
I’m going to the deepest depths of hell.

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- I’m certain.
- Markovits: Why?

00:45:02.958 --> 00:45:06.541
There are a lot of guys
waiting for me down there.

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People whose license to exist
we have revoked.

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The only difference between us
is that I’m going prepared.

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Markovits: I see you have “666” tattooed
on your neck. Is that the devil’s number?

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Yes of course,
because I am ready to go.

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Why do you say that?

00:45:22.750 --> 00:45:26.791
They say God is against violence.

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Didn’t Christ speak out for peace
and tranquility and all that shit?

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Unfortunately, we here--

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Get me the large tray!

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We took the path of violence.

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It’s the only way to take power
and defend the people.

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My nephew was killed
by common criminals.

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This is where
we buried him a month ago.

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And he died while wearing
these same clothes.

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The gangster came from behind
and shot him eight times in the back.

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But they don’t know
that when they kill a Tupamaro,

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or a Tupamaro’s relative,
our law will get them.

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The law of the Tupamaros.

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My son, this is your uncle,

00:47:13.291 --> 00:47:16.708
your Godfather
bringing you some love.

00:47:20.125 --> 00:47:23.583
The people who killed him
are very well known in this area.

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It’s a gang that operates freely
and with impunity

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and is protected
by the Caracas police.

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These are the faces
of his murderers.

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This is John.

00:47:39.375 --> 00:47:41.500
People call him “Rattlesnake John.”

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He has committed
around twenty homicides.

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This is the other guy.

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He’s the one who shot him in the back,
and he’s an actual police officer.

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Of Caracas! A police officer.
Imagine that!

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An assassin. An armed delinquent.

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What can we hope for then?

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Markovits:
Are you going to look for these people?

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When we find them,
we will settle the score.

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Makovits:
Have you found any of them yet?

00:48:12.583 --> 00:48:15.375
Yeah, we have found
three of them so far

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and they are already traveling
hitching a ride through hell.

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They are saying “hi” to Satan

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Since you were a kid
we gave you an education

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so you would be prepared.

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Our Father,
who art in heaven hallowed, is thy name.

00:48:32.625 --> 00:48:38.041
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done,
on Earth as it is in heaven.

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Give us this day our daily bread

00:48:40.458 --> 00:48:45.083
and forgive our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.

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And lead us not into temptation
and deliver us from evil, Amen.

00:48:50.416 --> 00:48:51.541
Holy, Mary, mother of God,

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pray for us sinners now
and at the hour of our death, Amen.

00:48:59.083 --> 00:49:01.291
Eternal honor and glory for you,
Carlos Enrique.

00:49:01.333 --> 00:49:03.875
May God have in all his glory...

00:49:03.958 --> 00:49:08.208
We will rise.
Your death will be avenged.

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This pain has got to be transformed
into revolutionary violence,

00:49:43.250 --> 00:49:45.541
so we can stop the killing of our young.

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( music playing )