The Life and Times of Life and Times
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Why do we age? Do we wear out piece by piece like an old car? Or do our genes determine our lifespan? Scientists are now approaching this complex problem from a variety of angles. Some have genetically selected worms and flies and successfully prolonged their lives well beyond their normal lifespans. Others study the genes of people who’ve lived to be 100, in search of what they may have in common. Still others, such as Nobel Prizewinner Elizabeth Blackburn, studies how chromosomes shorten with age. Others study some of the world’s oldest living creatures: the 5000 year old bristle cone pine trees of eastern California. This scientific “road movie” combines scientific rigor which a whimsical use of archival metaphors and animation to make an accessible, entertaining film about something which concerns us all.
"This film is a small miracle…we’d almost like to give it a Nobel Prize for science popularization. A real jewel, a pure concentration of intelligence and humor." —TELERAMA, FRANCE
Citation
Main credits
Friedman, Peter (film director)
Friedman, Peter (screenwriter)
Brunet, Jean-François (film director)
Brunet, Jean-François (screenwriter)
Laurent, Emmanuel (film producer)
Other credits
Camera, Van Theodore Carlson, Ned Burgess; edited by Florence Fradelizi, Peter Friedman; music composed and performed by Joelle Leandre, Carlos Zingaro.
Distributor subjects
Science; BiologyKeywords
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- Why aging?
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Well, the question of why
we age at the rate we do
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or what causes us to age, I mean,
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what can be more close
to home to every person
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than the aging process?
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Really, I mean, maybe not to teenagers,
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but after you become a young adult,
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and you're very intimately
aware of the aging process,
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and I think more so as time goes on.
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Practically nothing is known about it.
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Compared to what we know
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about almost everything else in biology,
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how you switch a gene on and off,
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how you control the cell cycle,
how you make a muscle cell?
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We know lots about all those things.
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We know a lot about cancer, for example,
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a lot about many diseases,
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but we know just a
little more than nothing,
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but almost nothing, about aging.
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It's one of the few
totally unsolved mysteries
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left in the world.
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That is, the world of biology.
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(children talking)
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- Evolution is a process in
which the genetic information
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of populations of animals
and plants gets shaped.
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One of the most important forces
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that shapes this genetic
information, is selection.
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In selection, basically,
nature keeps what it likes,
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and gets rid of what it doesn't like.
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So the stuff that it likes
is genes that make you big
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and strong and reproductive
and resistant to diseases
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and able to survive.
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The stuff that it doesn't
like is all of the stuff
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that makes you weak, infirm,
infertile, unable to function.
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This an interesting lead
into the problem of aging,
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because aging is almost exactly the stuff
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that you would think selection would stop.
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Aging involves us losing our fertility,
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losing our ability to survive,
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losing our ability to resist disease.
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Aging is all kinds of bad
things all rolled into one,
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and delivered to us in a nice package
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toward the end of our lives.
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Why would evolution ever
allow this to occur?
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And the answer is, that
evolution allows this to occur
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because basically, selection
has taken a holiday
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by the time you're middle-aged human.
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- Because you no longer
matter reproductively,
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you no longer matter to selection,
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you no longer matter to evolution,
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and all kind of bad things
can happen to at later ages.
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And that's why we age.
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People often ask me why do
you work with fruit flies?
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The fact is, you and fruit flies have DNA,
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you and fruit flies have RNA,
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you and fruit flies have protein,
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you and fruit flies have lipid,
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you and fruit flies have neurons,
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you and fruit flies have all
these things that are the same.
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So, we're pretty similar
organisms, fundamentally,
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but also, I know that things
like the declining force
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of natural selection
with age, affects humans
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just as much as it affects fruit flies.
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Normally fruit flies just
reproduce very quickly
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and then die not too long after that.
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You start the next generation right away.
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Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
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Which then go through the same life cycle.
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Using alterations in natural selection,
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our goal was to produce postponed aging.
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The basic experiment is to
take a culture of fruit flies,
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and discard the eggs they produce
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when they're young and
when they're middle-aged.
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We choose the eggs laid
by the older females,
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and use those eggs to
start the next generation.
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What we're basically doing
is delaying the bang.
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The bang comes later.
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And the result of this,
by changing the force
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of natural selection, is clear.
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There's apparently genetic
variation in the population,
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kinds of population that we
study, which will respond
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to the changed natural
selection pattern, and will say,
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"Oh, the rewards are now
for reproducing later.
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Well, we'll change reproduction.
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We will survive longer
and reproduce later."
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And that's what they do,
after some generations.
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And we have produced, by selection,
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fruit flies that have an adult phase
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that's about twice as long.
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So instead of being about forty
days adult life, on average,
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it's about eighty days.
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(fruit flies buzzing)
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That's the beautiful thing
about evolution is its power
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is shown both in the really
good things it does for you,
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and in the fact that when it dumps you,
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like a former girlfriend,
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you're nothing, you're
garbage, you're history.
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- One theory for how we
age is that we wear out
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the way a car wears out.
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We get damaged, so we get old and die.
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That's possible.
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It's also possible that
it's not quite so haphazard.
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It might be that there's
actually a program for aging.
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A mouse gets old and dies
after just two years.
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Very, very rapidly.
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And an old mouse has white hair,
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moves slowly, and looks
old in just the same way
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that an old dog looks old
or an old human looks old.
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That's two years.
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A canary gets old and dies after
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about thirteen years, much longer.
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And for a bat, it can be
thirty five to fifty years.
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It's a very very slow
rate of aging for a bat.
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So, it must have something
to do with the genes
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of these animals,
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because that's what makes them
different from one another.
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We work on a tiny worm. It's
only about a millimeter long.
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You can hardly see it with your naked eye.
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And they have short life spans
also, the whole aging process
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takes place and is completed
in just a couple of weeks,
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they get old and they die.
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That means, that if you're
interested in studying
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how an animal ages, and why
it ages at a certain rate.
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You can you do this very
easily in these worms,
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because it all happens so quickly.
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This is a worm that's old,
it's about 24 days old.
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But very few live more
than, say 25 days or so.
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They slow down and they die.
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Yeah, she's a goner.
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She's a worm on her deathbed.
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24 days old.
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She's had a rich, long, satisfying life.
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Our task is to find the
genes inside the worm
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that cause them to age and die
in two weeks instead of, say,
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a year, or 50 years or whatever.
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So we take our worms,
like a zillion worms,
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and then we treat the worms with X-rays,
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and it can change the
components of the DNA.
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So you have a whole new kind
of strain or race of worms
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that differs from the normal worm,
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because one of its genes is defective.
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We call those mutants.
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So treating these worms
with X-rays is analogous
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to taking a gun and just
randomly spraying bullets
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at something like, let's say, a car.
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This is a good New York
analogy, for example,
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spray bullets at a car.
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Now, in some cars, you
might, then you ask,
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"What's wrong with the car?"
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Some cars now have a flat tires.
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So you can say "Hah,
you need tires to move."
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Other cars will be able to move just fine,
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but the windshield wipers won't work.
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You'll say, "Oh, that's
where the bullet is,
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in the windshield wiper, this must be,
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or in some wire inside the car
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that's used to run the windshield wipers."
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You see? So you can just
see, if you do this to a car.
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Think about it, if you
just have a million cars
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and a million bullets and
you shoot them like this,
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you can come up with a kind of
a map for each part of a car.
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Like you can get a map
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for the whole entire
windshield wiper system.
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You'd have, like you could
hit the windshield wiper,
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and you could hit basically this wire,
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you'd have like bullets
going all along here
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that you would have,
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see, if you drew all the cars,
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and you put a little dot for
where all the bullets was,
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you'd come up with the
windshield wiper system, okay.
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So anyway, that's one analogy,
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now a better analogy really,
is if you think not of the car
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but of the blueprint for the car.
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There must be, these people that make cars
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must have directions
for how to make the car.
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It's almost like you're shooting
the gun at the directions
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for how to make the car.
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And so maybe, what you'll do
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is you'll hit the part of the directions
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that tells you how to
make windshield wipers.
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Okay, now the person that makes the car
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following the directions,
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but the part about the
windshield wipers is screwed up,
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so you get a car with
no windshield wipers.
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And that tells you that
this part of the directions
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has to do with the windshield wipers.
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And that's more analogous,
because the DNA,
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that's the instructions
for how to build an animal.
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So what we're doing is
we're finding little bits
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of the instructions for how
that will then allow the animal
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to eventually to age at a certain rate.
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Now what we need to do is find the worm
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in which we have hit a gene for aging.
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From each little family,
we take some worms
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that are very young, and we
allow them to grow up and age.
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After about twenty five days,
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there won't be any worms
alive, for normal worms.
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But the mutant worms, which
are the same in every way
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as the normal worms, except for one gene,
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just one gene is different,
they're still moving around,
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and they're eating, and they don't know
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that it's time to die, they don't.
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They're on the tennis court, they're fine.
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So when you look at the worms, you think,
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"Oh my god, these worms should
be dead, but they're not."
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So, you see?
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And then here what you see
is a, this a mutant worm.
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So this worm differs from
the normal worm by one gene.
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This worm is eighty days old.
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Oops! Oh-oh, there is, look at that!
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So I just picked the worm up
and then put it down again,
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and that has, you now see
a frenzy of motion here
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for this old fellow.
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Don't you feel a kind
of supernatural feeling
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going through you right now?
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This worm should have
been dead by 20 days,
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it's 80 days and is still
living and moving around
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after changing one gene.
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80 days old, ladies and gentlemen.
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The marvel of science!
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(birds chirping)
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Once you're confronted with
genes that regulate aging,
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the question immediately presents itself,
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could we use this information
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to extend the lifespan of humans?
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I can certainly imagine
changing a mouse in some way,
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so that it could have the
30 year lifespan of the bat.
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So when you get to humans, if you ask me,
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"Could a human possibly live longer?"
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I would have to say,
"I think, probably so."
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Of course we wouldn't wanna do it
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if we just extend the
time in the nursing home,
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but if we could prolong
the good part of life,
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would we want to extend
the lifespan of humans?
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(upbeat music)
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- [Narrator] The little
french mountain town of Bassan
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is barely a pinpoint on the map,
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but this birthday celebration
makes it a very special place.
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For it honors, Madame Mariane
Boniface, 100 years old.
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One of the guests is 102 today.
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And what makes the event
even more newsworthy
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is that there are 36
old people hereabouts-
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(speaking foreign language)
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- [Narrator] Nearing the
100 mark, Monsieur Cheminot.
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Proper diet, hard work,
that's the formula.
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(speaking foreign language)
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(birds chirping)
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(speaking foreign language)
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(upbeat music)
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(speaking foreign language)
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(crowd talking)
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(train horn blowing)
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(music box playing)
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(speaking foreign language)
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- [Narrator] To every man who
lives out his normal lifespan,
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there comes sooner or
later the fateful moment
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when he realizes that
he is no longer young.
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- Did you hear Sally's father
at the party the other night?
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- Yes.
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- He must be older than I thought.
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- And I always thought of Sally's father
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as being sort of, well young.
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He almost floored me
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when he said he could
remember back to the days
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when there were no sound movies!
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- That must have been
about twenty years ago.
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- Well, I mean, I didn't have
any idea he was so ancient.
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- Nobody wants to get old and decrepit.
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I think that's what scares us all.
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It's the loss of ability.
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Your brain doesn't work as well,
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your body doesn't work as well.
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It's terrifying. Nobody
wants to go through that.
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So just as nobody wants
to experience cancer,
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nobody wants to experience aging,
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and I would say at the
heart of the major efforts,
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of course, is a way of
controlling it or ameliorating it
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or at least softening the
debilitating effects of aging.
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But for some scientists, I do believe,
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actually for many scientists,
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also at the heart of studying aging,
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is what drives every scientist,
is an insatiable curiosity
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and a hope of gaining new insights
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into how biological systems work,
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that previously we didn't have.
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That's really what drives
many of us in the laboratory.
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Although it makes us feel good to think
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that maybe something we do
will cure cancer or cure aging,
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at the heart of what drives
most of us is this curiosity
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and this hope of uncovering
new insights into biology.
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This is the age of biology,
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and it's an amazing challenge,
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and it's sort of the driving
force behind many of us
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when we get into the lab.
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My own research is to try to understand
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how individual cells age.
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We think, we don't know
for sure, but we believe,
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that one of the components of aging
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is the sum of individual cells
aging within the organism.
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We discovered a way to
identify old cells in tissue.
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We treat them with a dye,
and the old cells turn blue
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and the young cells don't.
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So we could look at skin from
young people and old people
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and simply ask whether
we accumulate blue cells.
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And we do.
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What happens as a person ages,
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is they accumulate more old cells.
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And so the tissue becomes
clogged with cells
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that are not functioning properly.
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When a cell becomes old,
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it becomes in a way a
different type of cell.
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It's no longer doing
its proper job in life.
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It also becomes resistant to dying.
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That's probably part of the
problem is that they don't die.
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The problem with aging is
the accumulation of cells
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that are now no longer
producing the right molecules
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but are producing molecules
that can act outside of the cell
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and can cause the tissue to disintegrate.
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The cells become old, as
a consequence of dividing.
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They have a clock, a so
called biological clock,
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which determines how many
times they can divide.
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And at the end of that
magic number of divisions,
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they just can't divide anymore.
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(clock ticking)
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So, what is this clock?
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We really don't know for sure,
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but there is a leading hypothesis,
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based on what we know
about the genetic material
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that is the soul of every single cell.
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The genetic material is organized
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into huge, long, long strings of DNA.
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And at every end of
this long chunks of DNA,
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are structures called the telomere.
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- The telomere has
little sequence of bases
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that's building blocks of DNA,
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repeated over and over, thousands of times
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at the end of all the chromosomes.
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So this is a very simple piece of DNA.
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It kind of reminds me of
that tune that was in a movie
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called "Close Encounters
of the Third Kind,"
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which would drive you
crazy if you heard it over
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and over again.
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It went something like this,
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♪ Ta ta ta ta taaa ♪
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♪ Ta ta ta ta taaa ♪
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♪ Ta ta ta ta taaa ♪
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So in order for a cell to
divide to make two cells,
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each cell has to get a
complete copy of all the DNA.
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(machine squeaks)
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Now, one reason that the
telomere is important,
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is that the copying process
is not quite perfect.
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The enzyme machinery has a little problem,
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it can't quite copy the very very end.
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Each time that cell divides
and makes two copies
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of its genetic material,
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then each of those chromosomes
will be a little shorter.
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And then it divides again,
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and each chromosome will
be a little shorter again.
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And so on and so forth until
the telomere has shrunk down
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into just a few repeats.
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And after a while, the
cells stop dividing.
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So this is a kind of a clock,
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where you run the telomeres
down and then die of old age.
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Some ideas are very appealing
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because of their very simplicity.
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But, I think this is a kind of clock
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where a little kid can run
up and set the hands back
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to zero very easily.
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Cells have a special
enzyme called telomerase.
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So when telomerase is around,
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it can add a little extra DNA back
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to the end of the chromosome
and make it a little longer.
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So just a few years ago
there was a lot of interest
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in the idea that telomere shortening
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might be the cause of aging.
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And now we find that here's
telomerase like this naughty kid
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coming along and turning back
the hands of the clock again
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and adding more telomeric DNA.
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And it can do that in very
mature cells in our body.
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I think science advances
in a kind of a way
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where what happens is like a watershed.
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You fill up this watershed
with lots of information
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and you get to a point where
it can take you so far,
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and then it has to overflow
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into a whole new completely
different era of information.
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So I think we're filling
up with information
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about genes and molecules
that talk to other molecules
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that talk to other molecules.
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We're getting a lot of what I
think of as linear information
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right, cause and effect
and cause and effect
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in kind of linear pathways.
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I think the next big
questions in biology will be,
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how do you integrate all this together?
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The organism integrates it together.
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But we haven't really begun to sort out
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how to analyze that complexity very well.
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We're great at picking
out individual components
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of that pathway, so we can
follow little short strands,
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if you think of it as a
great big ball of yarn
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made up of strands stuck together,
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we can follow individual little strands,
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but we're not really good at
seeing how all the strands
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integrate information from
all the other strands.
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And maybe we need big computational tools,
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maybe we need other
algorithms, mindsets, to do it.
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So I think we're in an age of biology
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which will evolve into
another kind of exciting age.
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We've got lots of building blocks,
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and now we have to start
building the castles, right?
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And trying to figure out
how the castles are built.
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- There's a popular
myth that redwood trees
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are three or four thousand years old,
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and bristlecone pines perhaps even older.
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The fact of the matter is that those trees
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are not as old as we have been
taught to believe they are.
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Those trees are no older
than 30 or 40 years.
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The bark of course is
dead, and the next layers
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that you penetrate are the
living, cambium layers.
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But as you penetrate
further into the trunk,
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that tissue is dead.
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The oldest living cells in a redwood tree
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or bristlecone pine are
found in the needles,
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and they're no older than about 30 years.
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So all viewers who are
older than 30 years,
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are older than the oldest redwood tree.
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The tree has learned how to
hold on to its dead cells
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for architectural purposes.
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You and I have not learned how to do that,
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and consequently don't end up
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being as big as a redwood tree.
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We have, going on in our bodies,
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what's called cell turnover.
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We have cells dividing, some
classes dividing every day,
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others dividing every week,
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and others dividing every month or two.
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With the exception of your
neurons and your muscle cells,
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the cells that were present
in your body 10 or 15
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or 20 years ago are no longer there.
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So that you are, literally,
not the same person
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you were 10 years ago.
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As a matter of fact, when
you celebrate your birthday,
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you should only be
celebrating the birthday
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of your neurons and muscle cells
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which have been around since
birth, everything else is new.
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The question of what is an individual,
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is very difficult to determine.
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In the case of replication
of plants, for example,
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through root systems where
a single tree or bush
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gives rise to more trees or bushes,
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all attached to the original parent.
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From an original, single bush
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that sends out roots underground,
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the creosote bush forms a ring.
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Ultimately, the bush in the center dies,
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and you end up with a very wide ring.
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- King Clone at time was dated,
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was the oldest living plant
complex known at the time.
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It was dated at 11,700 years old.
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The plants that make up that ring,
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they aren't 11,000 years
old, but that ring itself.
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To me, that's where the significance lies,
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that it was able to persist so
long and maintain that form,
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and the integrity of
that ring is still there.
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- We all understand that
our lives are finite.
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But there is an aspect of our bodies
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that is indeed immortal
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and that is either our sperm or egg cells,
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that go on to provide a new generation.
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So that you and I and our viewers
represent the leading edge
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of an immortal lineage of cells
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that have been in existence
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for many millions or tens
of millions of years.
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(speaking foreign language)
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(water whooshing)
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- You can imagine a scenario
in which people say,
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"Well, we must never live
longer, we shouldn't do that!
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That would be immoral, unethical.
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So we should stop this research."
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Now, that could happen.
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But I think that would be a shame,
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because I think that from
this understanding of old age,
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we're going to, we know so little now,
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we'll know so much more in the future,
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will we be able to pick
and choose which aspects
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of that we want to incorporate
into new drugs for people?
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And it really, I mean, I just know
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that things coming out of
it will be useful to us,
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it would be, you would
have to be so pessimistic
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not to believe that you'd be irrational,
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people would laugh at you.
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And it seems very likely
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that we could get the
good parts out of it,
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without necessarily getting things
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that we might think would
be detrimental to society.
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But what we need first is knowledge,
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we have to know how it works,
before we can pick and choose.
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- For the first time, we have
enough fundamental information
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about biological processes
that there is a hope,
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real hope of changing what
we are and how we respond
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to our environment, and what
our genes tell us we must do.
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(clock ticking)
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(gentle music)