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Pretty stranded by.
Good morning, good morning.

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How are you today?
Good, good, good.

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You know Tom Hendry's phone number, not right
off.

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OK, go ahead.

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Good, good, Hazel.
Anyway, if God what belongs to him first,

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it's his, and look, I didn't feel a threat with
me several years ago.

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I couldn't get 32, it was before and after meal
averages.

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God loves these little babies.

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And you know what else?

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He loves the women that have been in those
abortion clinics.

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South Dakota.
In the fall of 2006.

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A good year for the harvest.

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This was also the year when the government made
abortions illegal, and the people were called

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out to vote on the new law.

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I was born here.

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Smack in the middle of the US.

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Life on the Great Plains is all about the
simple things.

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Wide open highways.

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Big trucks that pass through but never stay.

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Endless fields filled with soy and corn.

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Swimming in the lake on a hot summer day.

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And lots and lots of little towns that all
pretty much look alike.

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Who was named Bus Driver of the Year in 2005.

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There is a movement across this country.

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One wishes to save and protect the lives of
unborn children.

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As you know, Justice Roberts and Justice Alito
were just favorably placed on that board.

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There is still another chance that President
Bush will have to place another justice on that

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committee on that bench.
I believe it's time to pass House Bill 1215 and

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protect the lives of the unborn.

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In 1973, the US Supreme Court took up Roe
versus Wade and made abortion legal in all

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50 states.

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Since then, the issue divided the nation,
creating huge movements like pro-life and

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pro-choice.
South Dakota's ban, House Bill 1215,

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was to be the first attempt by an individual
state to take back complete control over

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abortion rights.

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The November elections would show if the
citizens thought abortions should be illegal.

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The campaign was now at its peak, and two men
emerged as the architects of the ban.

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So I'm trying to just kind of paint the picture
of why South Dakota,

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why now, what's happening here on the ground.

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First of all, I saw a shirt this last week and
I saw a few shirts that said abortion,

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the leading cause of death in America.

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It's true, you know, and if we had any other
epidemic out there that was claiming

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1.3 million lives, we'd be doing our darnedest
to stop it,

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you know, and here we are just turning a blind
eye, pretending it doesn't happen,

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you know, 47 million deaths have occurred.

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We talk about a few thousand lives lost here or
there or wherever,

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you know, 3,000 roughly on 9/11, 2,500 roughly in
Iraq.

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We've killed.

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47 million people who could be contributing to
our economy in some way,

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you know, I, I mean, I hate to talk about them,
but they would have been people,

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they would have been out there going to school,
working, spending money,

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this and that and the other thing.

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Some of them would have been our best friends.
Some of them would have been our worst enemies,

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you know.
I think there are a lot of good that could come

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out of it because I see families that would
like children.

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Don't have children.
They're going to China.

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They're going to Russia, the Ukraine.
They're going to, uh, Colombia,

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South America to basically adopt children.

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When if we had children that were available for
adoption here in the United States,

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we have families who could have children, we
would have real families.

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Uh, secondly, uh, I have to chuckle a little
bit that in the European area where they, uh, uh

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support abortion.

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Um, they're now having to allow a greater rate
of immigration.

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People coming into their countries to be able
to have people to do jobs they don't want to do

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and to earn money so they can collect taxes on
it to support the pension plans for the older

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people because they don't have enough people.

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Uh, there's an economic factor, an economic
plus if you would,

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to ensuring that we continue, uh, to allow
unborn children to live in essence.

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When you're talking in terms of protection of
life.

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To my way of thinking, that's what pro-life is
all about.

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Pro-choice people are not really protecting
life, they're protecting choice.

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And in the United States, the protection of
life has been one of our greatest values.

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We've gone to war in Bosnia, Somalia to protect
life and to protect people.

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When someone takes the life of another, they
are subject to the highest criminal penalty.

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They're subject to death.

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You know, if someone is raped, they're not
subject to death.

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If someone basically robs, they're not subject
to death.

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So our nation historically, not only in its
great documents like the Declaration of

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Independence where we talk about the pursuit of
life and the protection of life in our

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Constitution.
But we have continually, year after year, in the

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United States since its inception, since its
creation, have said that life is one of,

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if not the highest value.

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I wanted to know how engaged ordinary South
Dakotans were in this ban.

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So I started hanging around with some farmers
who were friends of my family.

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That about for

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Oh, OK.
Chiefs

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checking in on me to make sure I'm working.

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You know, I guess I don't like abortion myself,
but I'm Catholic,

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so then.
Catholics are totally against it supposedly you

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know Catholic religion is.

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So then it was 2 years ago at the, in the last
election, and now I suppose coming up here in

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the next couple weeks at church, they talked
about this,

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you know, telling you to vote for this and vote
for that just because of the abortion,

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man.
Well, I don't agree with that, you know.

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That's really not why I go to churches for
politics, you know,

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so anyway, I quit going to church two years ago
until the damn election was over.

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I didn't want to listen to that kind of stuff.

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Grassroots campaigns had now begun.

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Trying to mobilize voters to go to the polls in
November.

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Why do you think you have made in America?

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I think it's kind of a scary thing to say, but
I think a lot of it has to do with our

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political spectrum and that, uh, the religious
right has become a very powerful force,

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and Republicans know that they can, uh, they can
co-opt all that religious energy.

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They can go ahead and do that because they can
spin really well and they can make it all just

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mushed back into this one issue that they're
pro-life and so if you're pro life,

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if you love God you gotta vote for these people.

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I see what happened, or what has happened in
South Dakota; it's going to be really dangerous.

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For the public health.
Do we want people back with wire hangers?

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Do we want you back-alley, scary, you know,
predatory people doing fake

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surgeries, basically.

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This is Planned Parenthood's clinic in Sioux
Falls, the only clinic in South Dakota which

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performs abortions.
On average, 800 per year.

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With a population of just 750,000, that's among
the lowest in the nation.

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We built this building, or had it built for us,
so it was designed specifically for our use.

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As an abortion provider.

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We wanted to keep our patients away from the
public-access street where our

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protesters can be.

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Once you enter in here, you get into the
vestibule, and our staff actually have to press

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a button to allow you to enter into our waiting
room.

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So, and then it's all.

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It's all bulletproof.

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Around the building, and then we have cameras
out here so that we can always see our

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protester activity out on the street as well.

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We call it a bunker.

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We work sort of in a bunker environment and.

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I would never encourage somebody to, to have an
abortion, but I understand that there are times

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in which that is, um, a decision that a woman
might make,

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and then when that occurs, it needs to be safe
and legal.

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South Dakota has been sort of preparing for
this for a long time.

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Um, the anti-choice community has been very
strong in South Dakota.

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Um, we have leaders such as Leslie Unre.
We have a leader in the legislature,

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uh, such as Roger Hunt.

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Who are willing to push this agenda on the
legislature, on our governor,

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on the people of South Dakota over and over
again, and the legislative body has tended to

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be much more conservative on this issue than
the people as a whole.

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We've been talking about that a lot because
part of the things that we look around and see.

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We're pro-life, but pro-life really is such a
strong strange choice.

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They basically, how can you say no to life when
they have these stickers that say vote yes for

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life?
Everybody's pro-life, of course, of course it's

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a really strange use of language, and what I've
found is that there are all kinds of people in

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South Dakota who describe themselves as being
pro-life.

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But they are, in fact, pro-choice and they don't
even know it, and I can't

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I've never been able to figure out what they
think pro-choice really means.

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It just means that you would be able to,
obviously, make that decision without the

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government interfering in that very personal,
private, intimate decision about continuing a

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pregnancy or not.

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And for many people who self-describe
themselves as pro-life,

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they agree that the government should not be
involved in that decision-making process, so, to

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me they're pro-choice, but in their mind they
somehow think that they're

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pro-life. Well, so I decided that I must be pro-
life too.

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2 miles down the road and a full month later.

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I finally got 15 minutes with Kate's opposite,
the director of a crisis pregnancy center and

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chairwoman of the Vote Yes for Life campaign.

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Do you think that there are social reasons that
people are choosing not to have their babies?

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Like, why do you think women choose to have
abortions in the first place?

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It's not because they're bad people.

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So why, why, why do they choose it in the first
place?

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Why do they feel like it's a necessary choice
in their life?

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64% of all women have been hurt by abortions.

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Um, 65% have been coerced by women who, you know,
what, we're OK here.

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We're OK.
Yeah, we're fine.

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All right, thank you.
OK, yeah, do you want to put a note on the door

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maybe and tell them we're, yeah.

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Yeah, we're good.
Just let her know.

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Yeah, we're fine.
OK, we're good.

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Yeah, sure, well, we had a little emergency
here a few minutes ago,

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so yeah, men, there are a lot of men angry,
very angry,

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yeah, they're coming out here and one man came
and he took the sign and he smashed on his

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knees and he said.

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If you think you're going to ruin all of us and
ruin men,

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you've got another thing coming.

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I think having abortion on demand in this
country is giving a license to men to use women.

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It's giving women shame that's put on them by
society, because when you have an abortion,

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you hide, you live in shame.

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It's just so interesting when I talk to you or
when I talked to Kate Libby.

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Both of you seem like such completely
compassionate humans that I'm, I just can't

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Understand how we can't — you can sound
compassionate, but let's show compassion.

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Let's look at what does Katie Lobbe have at the end of
the day,

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what does she have?
Money in the till.

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What does Leslie and her have at the end of the
day?

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For 22 years, every bit of the service that we
have done has been free to the women.

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We've been there for them.

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Those women, many of them are working within
the walls of this campaign office.

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Many of them had their babies.

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Many of them have had abortions.

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But guess who was there for them at midnight, 3
in the morning.

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Other women like myself.

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In the last days before the vote, more and more
people were joining the fight.

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In 1973, and it's still better today.

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We cannot permit what he did.

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You and I have a duty to love our neighbor as
ourselves and to speak up for those who are

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unjustly being led away to the slaughter.

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We have a duty.

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Two car accidents later, this caravan of people
from a church in Wisconsin was asked to leave

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by the police.

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One of them had a 10-year-old daughter who'd
come home from school with a very graphic

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anti-abortion leaflet.

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We've got a job to do.
We've got a job to protect these people at a

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high school, elementary school.

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They are not eligible to vote.

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Only after asking us to turn off the camera did
the police admit to the protesters that they

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agreed with their message.

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Just not with the methods used to get it across.

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Thou shalt. These people were all very friendly
and helpful to each other,

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to us, and to the police.

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But they'd gotten a lot of the facts wrong.

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It infuriates me that pro-lifers managed to
skew the argument in this way that makes

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everyone who is pro-choice, pro-abortion, and
pro-death.

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Like that's not right. Yeah.

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I'm this close to starting to call
myself pro-life.

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I really am.
As a pro-choice advocate, I feel like I am more

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pro-life than any pro-lifer I've met.
You're not the first person to say that.

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This is what a baby looks like after it's been
in the hands of an abortion doctor,

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folks, not a pretty picture.

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We don't enjoy showing it to you.

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That's what it is.
Now we can go back to Roe

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versus Wade.
Roe versus Wade, the Supreme Court said they

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really didn't know when life began, but 33
years later,

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we do.
Thirty-three years later, terms like genes and DNA are in

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our vocabulary.

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They weren't in our vocabulary in 1973.

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In Roe versus Wade.

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The Supreme Court said nothing about
post-abortion problems that women would

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experience.
Why?

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Because post-abortion problems really weren't
known because abortions weren't legalized as

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they are now.
We're all doctors here in South Dakota.

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Science now proves that life begins at
conception.

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Over 96% of abortions performed in South Dakota
are for birth control.

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Referred Law 6 addresses these situations.
This measure does provide an exception for the

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life and the health of the mother.
And the morning-after pill may be taken in any

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event, including sexual assault or incest.
Referred Law 6 is a caring approach to protecting

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women and limiting abortion performers' birth
control in South Dakota.

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Now, what's going to happen, uh

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if 12:15.

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Uh, is approved, in essence, by the United States
Supreme Court.

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Well, in South Dakota, abortions are going to
be banned except to save the life of the mother

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or a limited exception for purposes of rape and
incest.

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Did you, have you read the ballot pamphlet
where they say that there is an exception with

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the pros and cons?

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How is that possible?

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How can— well, there clearly is no exception.

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But don't you think that will confuse a lot of
people? Of course,

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that's their intent.

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Why are they allowed to?

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I don't understand—to confuse the public.

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Um, because they can.
I mean, they can, they can make that argument

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that there is an exception in the ban for rape
and incest because there is the existence of

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contraception.
And somehow they equate those two

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things, and hopefully the public is wise enough
uh to distinguish

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between those two.
There is no exception for rape and incest.

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Do you think they will be wise enough?

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Um, I think that we need to continue, uh,
through this entire election process to

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reinforce that message that there are no
exceptions in this for rape and incest or for

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the health of the woman, and that allowing for
the use of birth control,

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which is all that the ban does is it
allows for the use of emergency contraception,

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which is birth control, um, that is not the
same as an exception.

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And I didn't know that I needed special
permission from the government to use birth

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control.
Well, you will soon, yeah, um, I read that

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South Dakota physicians or um pharmacists as
well have the right to not dispense the birth

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control if it conflicts with their religious
view.

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Yes, that's true.
We were the first state in the country to pass

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a pharmacist refusal law in the 1990s.

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And um it allows pharmacists to refuse to
dispense any form of birth control if

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they feel it goes against their morals and um
so you know,

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while you may.
Legally under the ban, have the right to

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use emergency contraception or other forms of
birth control.

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Um, in South Dakota, we have given pharmacists
the ability to say no,

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I, I don't think that you should have birth
control, and they would be able to limit access,

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particularly in a very rural environment such
as South Dakota.

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One Sunday isn't bad.

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But it was like 4 Sundays in a row.

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You know, every Sunday it's the same shit.

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And we all know what the church's position is.

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And I don't think they got a right to tell us
how to vote,

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you know.
I don't know.

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I got crazy ideas sometimes.

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Like the abortion thing, I mean, I don't agree
with it,

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but I think there might be some sometimes certain reasons when they.

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Well they should be allowed to do it, you know.

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Like if, like if the mother is.

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If it, if it's gonna hurt the mother's health,
you know,

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she has a chance of dying or something, well
then they should be able to.

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Or if she's raped or something maybe.

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You know, she, I don't think she should have to
look at that face all her whole life.

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I don't know.

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Do you think that people in this state feel
like this is a moral gap that needs to be

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filled by a law?

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Oh, they've said that in polls, even the
Planned Parenthood people,

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if you pushed them to be honest about it, would
tell you that,

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I mean, they know two-thirds of the people in the
state don't approve of abortion.

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Um,
although, and I think that there's historically

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been strong support for laws in our state,
courts keep striking them down.

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We keep passing them, they keep striking them
down, um.

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But if you wanted to know, I mean, and I,
I mean the longer,

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longer-term answer will not, as is true for
every social problem,

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will not be a legal answer.
The law can be an impetus,

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but in the end, you got to change people's
hearts.

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Woo.
That's a tough question.

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It's, uh, it might be a question I can't answer.

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I don't know the right answer to it.

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Again, if you've been raped or drugged, then
it's a different story.

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Why?
Because it's not choice.

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If you have free sex,

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You have casual sex, then you've already made
the choice.

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It sucks it's murder.

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When you go out in the wild, a deer has sex
with a buck.

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There's no, you can't, you can't like have an
abortion on a wild creature that was in the

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wild.
Why should humans be able to do it.

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There's gonna be a need and there's gonna be a
place for that kid.

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You were born.
Your mother did not abort you.

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If your mother would have, it would have been
committing murder.

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I'm sorry.
I think that I, that's how I think it is.

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It's fucking murder.
That's how I was raised and that's how my heart

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is.

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Let's rejoin Kelly Grant, who is standing by
with Leslie Unruh.

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I know they want, they want the vote to go their
way, but are they accepting the reality now

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that perhaps they're not going to succeed?

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I hope I heard you right, but they are not
accepting reality if that's what you ask.

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Leslie, tell me, the AP is saying that Vote No
is the winner.

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What do you have to say about that?
They're never going to win.

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We are never going to quit, ever, ever, ever.

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We're not going to give up.

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We are in this.
We're not conceding.

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I'm never conceding.

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None of these people are.
They have got to fight like they have never

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seen, because we have an army of people here, and
not just here but all over this nation we have

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hope in this nation.
There are people in West Virginia here; they are

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gonna put the same bill in their legislature.

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Planned Parenthood.

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There are people
in Texas here and they're gonna put this same

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bill in their legislature, and there are men
like Roger Hunt and Matt McCulley that have

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championed women, and there's a new day coming.

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Women are being heard all over this nation, and
it started here in South Dakota.

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After all that noise, abortions were still
legal.

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For me, that meant some rethinking about the
talking I had done so far,

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but for most people, that just meant getting
back to their normal realities.

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Can you see if anyone's coming?

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It's clear.

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Is it gonna get cool now?

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What?
Is it gonna get colder now?

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You're asking me?
Yeah, but you're a farmer.

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I don't know anything about these things.

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Oh yeah, I'm a farmer, not a man.

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Say that again.
So I'm a farmer, not a weatherman.

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Although I could do just about as good a job as
they did.

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Yesterday, it was supposed to be 80 degrees and
sunny and windy.

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Well, it was pretty calm.

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It was cloudy all damn day except until about 4
o'clock, and I had my jacket on all day,

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so it wasn't only 80 degrees.

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But he still has a job today.

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I wish I could do my job that wrong and still
have a job the next day.

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OK.
Right, I mean, you smell it all the time.

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I wish we had a damn gun.

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What? Don't you like the fact that I wish
we had a gun?

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How do you see this issue on the national stage
as contributing to the national kind of culture

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right now.
9/11 happened.

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The terrorists struck America, and all of a
sudden, men and women alike started to say,

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you know what,
some of that other stuff, it's

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it, it doesn't matter quite as much anymore.

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Let's start a family, you know, let's, let's,
um, God only knows how many days we

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have left, you know, before we destruct
ourselves, you know,

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whatever, um, and that was, that was a huge
turning point in,

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in America.
I don't know as we go forward.

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I don't know 10 years from now what the.

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What the net effect of the terrorist attacks
will be.

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I know for a short time.

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That it impacted people in a huge way, um, in
terms of what they,

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what they held near and dear.

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Um, I think you saw.

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A little more of the Midwest values spread
throughout the country.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United
States of America.

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Like oh.

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Thank you guys so much.

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This is Lifelight, a free Christian music
festival here in the Great Plains.

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It drew over 300,000 people this year, mainly
families.

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Uh, this one's from my church.
Uh, this one's for pro-life.

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And then this one's, um, breast cancer awareness.

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This one is um.

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Chastity, and so is this one, the ones that you
wanted

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or did you want to get all of them? I want to
get all of them because I like to wear them.

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I haven't taken them off for a while, so yeah,
the longest I've taken them off this summer was

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like two hours.

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Yeah, I'm attached to that.

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Um, let me see them both quick.

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Look at that one.

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And we encourage guys to wear this until they
get married and then save it for their

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son.
Our other guy's shirt that's awesome is our

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pornography one is for posers.

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Now, older guys don't know what a poser is, but
all the teenagers know what a poser is,

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and the back of the shirt.

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Now, did you read the back of the shirt?

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I don't remember what I said exactly. It.

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You know, last week I took an unbelieving kid
to a Christian camp with me.

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He was 12 years old.

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You know, within a day the girls were coming
telling me,

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you know, he's trying to sleep with one of us.

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He was 12 years old.
That's all he wants to talk about is how,

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well, I can't really say it, but that's all he
wanted to talk about.

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And before long, before he even knows it, you
know, some girl will be pregnant.

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You know, at 14 and having an abortion, which
is going to destroy her in about a dozen

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different ways emotionally and physically to
say nothing about killing the baby and she'll

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have the, the, you know, the human
papillomavirus and end up with cervical cancer.

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I mean, they're huge sex problems.

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It all gets into huge problems.

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Well, go ahead and bow with me.

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You are so good.
Father, I, there's a president who's got a lot

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of weight on his shoulders.

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Yes, because in the midst of that.

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Somehow in the darkness of war and fog of war
there, near one of the entrances

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to the festival was the fleet for Little Feet
bus run by Leslie Unruh.

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It roves the countryside, giving advice to
pregnant women.

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Good. Let's talk about birth control now
because I know

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like Planned Parenthood says that they think
that this type of law,

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it's naive to think that women won't still seek
birth control and abortions in the morning

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after pill.
I mean, what way do you guys look at that?

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I really don't know anything about the point of
view here and I can see how quite an operation

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based on this, and I really want to know what
is your stance about birth control because for

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example, Denmark in the 90s made birth control
free and accessible for everybody and their

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abortion rate dropped by 50%.

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Do you think that that's actually—I was in
Denmark.

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I spent almost 4 weeks there and we found that
the sewage department there was having a

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problem because when they were aborting the
children, um, and also in Sweden they were having

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problems because of the high abortions that
were there, so, um, it's not really true that

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women were and still are becoming pregnant in
Denmark.

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The view on sexuality is typically diverse,
with Scandinavia on the more liberal side.

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The abortion stats are half that of the US.

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I have never heard about this, and I don't know
why it should take place.

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You have public hospitals all over the country
where you can get an abortion for free,

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so, so I'm pretty sure that nobody wants to do
an abortion at home.

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I can't see any logical or health reasons to
do this.

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So that is not the case.
I can tell.

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The funny thing is that when we talk about
reducing the number of abortions,

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we actually get strong support from the
Christian party in parliament who said even we

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don't like abortion, we know that we should
support information,

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we should support sexuality education and good
access to contraceptive means.

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That is the way you reduce the number of
abortions in reality.

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And, and that is what is taking place in
Denmark.

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We have more than half the number of abortions
since abortion became legal because

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On the one hand, it is legal.
On the other hand,

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we have good education and sexuality
information.

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To encourage right choices, we must be willing
to confront the dangers young people face,

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even when they're difficult to talk about.

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Each year about 3 million teenagers contract
sexually transmitted diseases that can harm

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them or kill them or prevent them from ever
becoming parents.

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In my budget, I propose a grassroots campaign
to help inform families about these medical

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risks.
We will double federal funding for abstinence

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programs so schools can teach this fact of life.

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Abstinence for young people is the only certain
way to avoid sexually transmitted diseases.

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There are all these huge organizations that
lobby very hard.

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They have plenty of political clout.
They've got good grassroots,

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um, and, and they fight for poor access to
birth control,

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poor access to good sex education.

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Now between sex education and birth control, I
can't think of two better ways other than

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abstinence to not have an unwanted pregnancy,
and the best way to reduce abortion is to

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reduce unwanted pregnancies.

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I mean, this is really easy logical stuff,
but religious-based organizations

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sometimes skip a lot of that.

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Right now there's millions of dollars being
spent on programs of prevention,

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teaching women that it's not about finding the
right man,

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it's about being the right woman, sexual
responsibility, sexual integrity,

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that's what it's about for women.

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Last Friday night, young girls from all around
South Dakota came to Sioux Falls for a spring

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ball.
This one is called the Purity Ball.

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It's a yearly event run by Leslie Unruh's
Abstinence Clearinghouse.

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The idea is that these young women come with
their fathers to celebrate their sexual purity,

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that they won't have sex until the day they get
married.

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I believe in pure gifts.

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that he loves me, that he loves me, and that he
will reward me for my faithfulness, and that he

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will reward me for my faithfulness.
Do you believe that young women in schools in

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South Dakota should be taught about
contraception?

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I don't think that kids have to be taught about
how to load a gun if they're not going to use a

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gun.
I think that kids need to be taught and

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explained about how not to be involved in
sexual activity.

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Contraceptive devices fail.

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And I think that that's what they need to know
about.

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I've had a program for 22 years; it's called
Truth for Youth.

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In fact, the state of South Dakota hasn't every
single school in the state.

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And you know, it's the word abstinence, A-B-S-T
I-N-E-N-C-E,

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Abstinence means four easy words.
Here they are,

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save sex till marriage.

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Save sex till marriage, or no sex till marriage.

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Any kind of sex; we're not just talking about
regular sex or going all the way,

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we're talking about oral sex, anal sex, vaginal
sex, any kind of sex.

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That's what we're saying: no sex till marriage.

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I need nine volunteers to come up to the front
here.

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It's hard to get rid of me.
I'm with you.

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What do you think? Crabs have no cure?

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There is a way to get rid of crabs.
It's a parasite.

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It's a living creature.

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It's like you have lice in your hair.

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It's kind of like having lice in your private
parts.

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So how do we get rid of unwanted pregnancy in
general here?

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We have personal responsibility, and if that
fails, um,

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if it fails, personal responsibility never
fails.

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Really? No.
Why not?

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Because when you are personally
responsible, you make decisions based on

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responsibility and making good decisions, and
you understand and you know.

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See, I don't believe that we're animals in
heat; we're people,

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we can make decisions.
We don't have to go with the urges.

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We're people that have a mind.
The most important sex organ we have is right

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up here.

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Oh. Oh.

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Sexuality is such a basic element of our
humanness.

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What other area are we so afraid of in,
in our

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I just, what other area would we say we're not
gonna teach you about? Eating or breathing,

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you know, we teach nutrition, we teach exercise,
we teach

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you know, all kinds of other things, but we
can't talk about sexuality.

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I'm very afraid of that.

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I refute this.

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Hey, I wish one of those so bad.

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That's pretty amazing though.
That was sweet.

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That was awesome.
I love goosebumps.

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There we go.
I wish they were both two drakes,

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but what can you do when the sun's in your eyes?

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In Europe, we see more and more anti-church
people coming up with

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very radical views on, on.

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On these issues, and certainly we see the
consequences of the policy of the US government

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policy in, in, in the developing countries these
days. It is becoming

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increasingly more difficult to get access to
good sexuality education,

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uh, and, and very often sexuality education is
uh,

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abstinence until marriage, and, and, and we see
the consequences.

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I mean, it doesn't work in the US, and it doesn't
work in the rest of the world. Like, you do not

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have sex until you get married.

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That is the consequences our partners in, in
Africa, for example,

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are fighting that all these huge money
going into abstinence-only programs are

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actually reducing the way of having a good
sexuality education and

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and access to, to control your own fertility and
to protect yourself and your partner.

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Yeah, don't trip and fall.

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I might have to laugh a bit if you didn't.

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I know it's.

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As far as the way I voted, and all that.

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I didn't really even pay attention to that, to
be honest with you.

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Because I thought there were more important things.

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You know, and then the abortion done.
And then the abortion done.

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I think one of the things that the peripheral
issues do,

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the morality issues, is they distract people
from the true issues of the day.

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You know, take abortion, for example.
Abortion is a significant issue.

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We're 50th in the nation in the rate of
abortion per capita.

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We're an extremely conservative state.

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Everybody in South Dakota is truly pro-life.

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We, we look at that and so, uh, that's a
distraction to us.

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Uh, this law was not really needed.
It's really a,

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a complex social issue, not a simple black and
white issue.

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There he is.
Thank you.

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You bet.
Catch you later.

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Have a good one.
Thank you.

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Here we are.

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And

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We raise our drinks.

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Ha, and, like,

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this I can't.

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I did.
Trip again, again.