The Only Doctor
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Dr. Karen Kinsell is the only doctor in all of Clay County, Georgia, one of the poorest and unhealthiest rural regions in the state. Her clinic has served the most vulnerable in her community for over 22 years, but now faces bankruptcy. Despite not drawing a personal salary, Kinsell must now weigh retiring against serving her patients. When a Hail Mary offer arrives from a medical university, a fully equipped health center is proposed. But Kinsell makes affordability and access her personal red lines of the potential sale. An impending state election and the outbreak of COVID add more uncertainty, reminding Kinsell of how much is riding on the fine print. Straight-talking and downright inspirational, The Only Doctor presents a modern David-versus-Goliath healthcare story that might just restore your faith in humanity.
Citation
Main credits
Hashiguchi, Matthew (film director)
Hashiguchi, Matthew (film producer)
Levert, Anjanette (film producer)
Kinsell, Karen (on-screen participant)
Other credits
Music, Buck St. Thomas.
Distributor subjects
Rural Healthcare; Human Rights; Medical Care in AmericaKeywords
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(upbeat music)
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(indistinct)
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- All these people coming
in, supposed to come in,
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and then we'll have
walk-ins on top of that.
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- So there's only one ready.
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- Yes, ma'am.
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- Okay, you don't sound that good.
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You sound really stuffy.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Are you sneezing too?
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- [Chani] Mm-hmm.
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- Okay, how long has it been going on for?
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- It started up, I wanna say Saturday.
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- [Dr. Kinsell] And you said
your nerves aren't doing well.
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- My depression isn't doing very well,
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I've been finding myself,
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it's getting harder and harder and harder
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to get out of bed every morning.
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Just don't wanna do anything at all.
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It feels like I'm having
to take care of everybody,
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and nobody wants to clean
up after themselves,
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I'm having to clean up after everybody,
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take care of everybody.
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- [Dr. Kinsell] Has it
ever gotten to the point
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where you think about hurting yourself,
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wishing you weren't here?
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- Um, it has,
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but then I think about Lilly,
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and that seems to help
me stay away from that.
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- Uh-huh.
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- That's another reason I got
love tattooed on my wrist.
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It's there to remind me
that there are people
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that do love me and need me.
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And I know my sister
would, with us combined,
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we've lost a lot already,
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and we don't need to lose each other.
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- [Dr. Kinsell] It's great to have that.
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- Yeah, I know if
anything I have my sister.
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- [Dr. Kinsell] Are we sure
you're not pregnant now?
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- [Chani] I took two
pregnancy tests yesterday,
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and my period's supposed to be showing up
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in four days,
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and they both came back negative.
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- Okay, so you might be. (laughs)
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What do you want?
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- I wanna have another baby.
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I want a little boy.
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I really want a little boy.
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- If you're feeling worse
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in the meantime call me or come in.
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- Okay.
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- Okay?
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Okay sweetheart.
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And maybe it's not quite the right time
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to get pregnant again, I don't know.
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- Well if it happens it happens. (laughs)
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- Okay, sweetheart, hope
you're feeling better.
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- Thank you, bye.
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(gentle music)
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- [Chani] If she closed down,
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that means we'd have to travel
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to find somebody that would take us.
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Like I said, right now we don't
have any health insurance.
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- [Jenna] Did they get the pan fixed?
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- They sprayed the pan
last time they were here,
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they said they,
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- How you gonna fix it by spraying?
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- [Brandi] There's some leak
stuff they can put on it,
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but they said if this does not work
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she's gonna have to get a new unit.
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- There's termites in the door,
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we can't fix the gaps in the door,
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because there's termites in the wall,
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and we'd have to tear out some of the wall
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just to fix the door, it's just
you try and fix one problem,
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and there's another problem behind it-
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- Right behind it.
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- That's even bigger that
you would have to fix
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just to fix a small problem.
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- And the posters on the walls
are mainly covering up holes.
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- [Cameraman] Have health
inspectors come through and...
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- No.
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- I'm sure if they did we'd
shut down. (snapping fingers)
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- When you're in a city like this,
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what health inspectors are gonna come
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to a rural area like this?
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- I mean nobody's gonna shut
down the only doctor's office
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in the county, nobody's
gonna shut it down.
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- Let me explain a little
bit about Clay County.
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We're one of the poorest
counties in Georgia.
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We're not talking about kind of poor,
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we're talking about this being
an extremely poor community.
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Clay County is underserved
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is the polite word for it.
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I'm the only provider in the county.
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I've been the only medical provider here
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for the last 13 years now.
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(solemn music)
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There was a hospital here in Clay County,
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it closed in the late 1980s.
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The closest regional hospitals
are 40 miles away in Alabama,
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or 60 miles in Georgia.
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It's a long ways to get
to medical care here.
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The county's about 3,000.
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It's about 60% Black, 40% White.
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The front streets are White,
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all on the highways and stuff,
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and then when you get back beyond that
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it's pretty much Black.
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It's kind of how it works.
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There was a tree that
fell down in October,
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and it's still there.
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This is all a Black street.
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We really don't know what's gonna happen.
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We know if we don't do something
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there's not gonna be
healthcare here real soon.
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And basically the whole model has been
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that nobody else had any responsibility
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for making sure that
there was healthcare here.
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The county didn't, the city didn't.
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The first year that we ranked worst
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in the Robert Wood
Johnson Health Rankings,
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I told the County Administrator
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that boy, at some point you
guys have gotta step up.
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If you want the healthcare to be here
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and improve you guys have gotta do this.
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I'll retire at some point,
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and unless there's some kind of structure,
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somebody has responsibility
for healthcare here,
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there won't be any healthcare here.
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(gentle music)
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Patricia. (knocking on door)
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Here we are.
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(door creaking)
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Hello!
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I thought you were probably looking at me.
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How are you?
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- I'm okay.
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- Just okay?
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- [Patricia] Yes, ma'am, I'm doing well.
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I've been in this bed going on 14 years.
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- [Dr. Kinsell] 14.
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- Yes, ma'am.
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- [Dr. Kinsell] Wow.
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- If I live to see this year it'll be 14.
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- But you'd rather stay here
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than move to a nursing home or something?
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- Yes, I would.
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- Why?
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- I worked in a nursing home,
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I know how they treat those people
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in the nursing home,
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and I don't like it.
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I would rather go home with the Lord
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than to go to the nursing home.
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If I don't feel sick,
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I'm in The Word,
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or I'm reading or just writing.
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I write about my thoughts,
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how I feel about being in this bed.
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People, you know...
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how you have so many friends when you up,
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but after you get down there's nobody.
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It's like everybody walks away from you.
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And I try my best to stay up,
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not to let this bed get to me.
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- What would you improve
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about this situation though if you could?
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- I think my situation is good.
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If I had someone to help
me get in the chair.
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- Where would you go?
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What would you do?
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- I'd ride around the neighborhood,
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and get to know the neighbors.
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I've been here a long time.
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I never wanted to have
to depend on no one,
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nobody but the Lord,
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we couldn't survive without Him.
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(gentle music)
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- I grew up in Remington, Indiana,
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which is small town in Indiana.
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My family is in the seed business,
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my father did well.
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I've been able to use
that background really
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for support since then.
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I like to think of it as
having just enough money
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to be dangerous.
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I eventually decided that
I really wasn't gonna
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be able to make an impact
with discovering new varieties
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of soybeans or whatever,
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so I moved to New York City.
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Across the street from me,
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there was a man living on the street,
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and I had just never seen
homeless people before,
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and I was so struck by that.
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And started volunteering at
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the New York City
Coalition for the Homeless.
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I was very taken by the
physicians who came.
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They really had an ability
to help people there,
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and so I went back to the idea of
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I'd like to go to medical school.
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(gentle music)
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Since I'd really come from a rural area
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I was very struck by that
there were many rural areas
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that were even more underserved
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than some of these poor
areas in the cities.
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So I literally went to the library,
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took out a map,
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and a book of statistics
looking for poor areas.
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And ended up relocating to
southwest Georgia, Clay County,
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which actually that year was considered
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the most medically underserved
county in the state.
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- Clay County Medical.
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- So many of the people out
here can't pay for care,
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so I volunteered.
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I'm a full time volunteer,
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and that's the only way this system works.
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I have some assets, family money,
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but they're about exhausted,
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so there has to be another plan
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to allow me to continue to volunteer here.
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So hey, how you doing?
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- [Michael] I'm all right.
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Same old, same old.
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- Same old?
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I know you were here a couple weeks ago,
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but you were saying you had just started
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in the flare, right?
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- Yeah, on Wednesday.
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- But you didn't wanna
come in before today?
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- I had to, like I said I had to wait
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until I get my payroll to come in.
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- Okay, honey, and of
course we're always happy
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to see you, if you need to come in,
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you just come on in, okay?
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And I mean that.
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- Okay.
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- Okay.
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So you don't feel any better?
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- Slightly,
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but the pain is still-
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- Stand up and let me see
where you're talking about.
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Take a few steps just
so I can kind of see.
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Yeah.
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Turn around.
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And that, your walk, that's
not that much different
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than how you always are, right?
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- Yeah.
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- How far can you turn
your neck to the side?
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- That's it right there,
almost like a motorcycle.
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- Basically it's just
cementing his spine in place,
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it doesn't have the flexibility
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that you normally would have,
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so he can't twist.
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Yeah, it's degenerative
disease of your spine.
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I notice you're kind of a sweaty guy.
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- Yeah.
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(both laughing)
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That's from carrying the
weight around all the time.
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- Yeah.
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I mean are you real
prone to sweating a lot?
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- Yes, ma'am.
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- Okay, so maybe.
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- From hopping.
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- Is it hot in here?
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- I said from hopping.
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- Oh, hopping.
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- [Nurse] How long do these
flares typically last for?
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- [Michael] About two to three months.
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Some days be worse than others,
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but there'll still be pain.
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Some days are bearable,
some days are unbearable.
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The unbearable days I just stay out.
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- [Dr. Kinsell] Have you
been going to work with this?
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- Oh, ever since I've been
working from '96 til now.
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- [Dr. Kinsell] Did you go ahead
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and apply for disability then?
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- They supposed to call
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and let me know what's the interview date.
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- Good, okay.
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- They say you gotta have no income,
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but how can you have no
income and have a house?
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- A place to stay.
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- Yeah.
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- And particularly because
the process is so long,
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it takes about two years
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from the time you apply for disability
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until you get it in most cases.
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So how are people supposed to live?
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- Exactly.
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- I mean some people are with
their family or something,
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and they can make it,
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but if you don't have that it's-
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- When you're by yourself it's rough.
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So you can't stay out,
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so you gotta go in pain,
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and there's only so
much the job gonna take
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about you staying out.
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- Yeah.
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- I appreciate it.
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Thank you.
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- Okay.
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Okay, hun, good to see you.
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- I hope not to see you too soon.
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- [Nurse] I hope you feel better.
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- Thank y'all.
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Y'all have a good day.
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- [Nurse] You too.
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(gentle music)
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- Mercer has started
negotiations to use us
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as a model site for rural healthcare.
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And so the hope would be
that they would be able
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to partially subsidize us partly
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with doing our billing
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and that sort of thing,
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and maybe some cash.
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- This is Brandi at Dr. Kinsell's office.
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- I think Mercer is being a little naive
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by thinking it's just a billing issue.
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About a third of our patients
are on a sliding fee scale.
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I did agree to increase the
minimum sliding fee scale
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to $15 from $10 which is a
50% increase, it's noticeable.
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And it will go up pretty
quickly from the $15,
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and I'm sure that will
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discourage some patients from coming in.
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- You're such a great doctor.
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- And they were asking for all my data
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before we had any kind of agreement.
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And I go, no.
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Who the patients are.
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If you own that data then
you just send an announcement
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to all of them saying hey,
come to this other doctor
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down the road.
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I really don't think they would do that,
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but I don't completely trust them.
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Can't trust anybody completely,
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so I want everything in writing
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before we move much forward.
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Basically I'm giving them patients,
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but then they have to
agree to employee me.
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It wouldn't make any sense for me
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to give them all that,
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and then I not be there
three months from now.
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We're gonna be harder
because I'm very serious
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about this sliding fee scale.
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This is the old hospital.
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So we're gonna renovate that,
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and make it into the new clinic.
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And there'll be additional
services in there,
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mental health,
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and we're still negotiating
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what other services will be there.
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- Yeah, for sure.
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I mean I have spent all
the inheritance basically,
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and so I really can't continue
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to just stay out here for free forever.
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They are making
arrangements with the county
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to have that new space,
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I mean certainly it would be conceivable
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that they would just go ahead,
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and put a doctor in that space.
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I think they would be smart
enough not to do that,
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but that certainly is not inconceivable.
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- We are at what will be
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the Clay County Health Clinic.
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This is a wing of an old hospital
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here in Fort Gaines, Georgia,
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that had been not used
for many, many years.
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And we had a group of senators
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that were traveling around rural Georgia,
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primarily southwest Georgia,
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and they came here,
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and we had a huge community meeting.
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And one of the primary
emphases that we had
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is the need for sustainable
medical presence
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here in Clay County.
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And they took that information back,
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we were able to get funding
from One Georgia Authority.
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That's part of the money that was
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the old tobacco settlement money
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that was received by the state
of Georgia several years ago
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through some helpful negotiation
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with the owner of the facility,
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and the nursing home
that is in the remainder
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of the building, they saw fit
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to allow us to use part of
those funds for healthcare
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in our community.
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It'll be another bullet in
our economic development gun.
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When a retiree is looking
at a potential place
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to relocate there are two
things that they ask about.
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What are the taxes here and
what about the healthcare?
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And if you don't have a good story to tell
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on both of those they're
probably gonna move on
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somewhere else.
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If this didn't happen,
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we'd probably be without a doctor at all.
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- Let's go ahead and call
the meeting to order.
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And the update from Mercer,
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Dr. Kinsell and Mercer are
still negotiating on her salary.
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Charles will facilitate a meeting
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with Dr. Kinsell and Dr. Sumner at Mercer
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for further discussion.
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- I was just curious about
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what the board felt
would be the priorities
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for what should go in those spaces.
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But if this board is
the advisory committee
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for what happens with healthcare here,
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y'all may wanna weigh in
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on what you'd really like to see.
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- Have y'all considered mammograms?
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- We have.
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My vision for Mercer as a whole
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is if we're gonna do
several of these clinics,
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for our more expensive, more specialized
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diagnostic equipment it would be portable
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so we can eventually have
it come to each clinic.
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There is a company out of Columbus
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that has reached out to us
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that is wiling to bring mammography here
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in a mobile unit.
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- We have aged through two sets
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of mobile mammograms in this community,
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and they both have lost their grants,
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so they've stopped coming.
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But that was pretty well used,
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and absolutely is a need.
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- Is there any way possible
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to get some kind of pharmacy in there
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because just a lot of
people need that here.
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- Where Mercer can be most effective
00:22:05.741 --> 00:22:07.409
in partnering with Clay County
00:22:07.409 --> 00:22:09.995
is the core medical services,
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provide medical services to the community,
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and I think pharmacy
falls well within that.
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Pharmacies are very expensive to run.
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To run a full time pharmacy sometimes
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can be as expensive in just cash flow
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of $100,000 a month.
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It has to be there perpetually.
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There's always one thing that stands out
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as the biggest clinic need immediately,
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and I think that is time with provider.
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I think you're tapped out.
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Priority number one really has to be
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bringing in another provider,
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and getting us to a position
00:22:45.405 --> 00:22:47.657
where we can bring in
a nurse practitioner,
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making sure we've got
space for two providers,
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and then I think we move out from there.
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The other option would be to
do a community questionnaire,
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send it out to the community,
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and give them a list of services,
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and ask them maybe on
a scale of one to five
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or one to 10, where do these fall
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into what would be most
utilized by each household.
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- That's the kind of spirit of inclusivity
00:23:09.513 --> 00:23:11.431
that we all would like to have
00:23:11.431 --> 00:23:12.933
rather than us sitting around a table
00:23:12.933 --> 00:23:15.352
and deciding what we'd like to do.
00:23:17.104 --> 00:23:19.689
(gentle music)
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(gentle music continues)
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(phone buttons beeping)
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How's the smoking coming?
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- [Penny] Well, I still
don't have the Chantix
00:23:57.102 --> 00:24:00.397
because they will not
take the food stamp plan.
00:24:00.397 --> 00:24:01.606
- As your proof of income?
00:24:01.606 --> 00:24:02.441
- Yes.
00:24:02.441 --> 00:24:04.192
They said, I meant to bring you
00:24:04.192 --> 00:24:06.319
papers from the hospital so you could see.
00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:07.737
- Is there any other
kind of proof of income
00:24:07.737 --> 00:24:08.655
in the household?
00:24:08.655 --> 00:24:10.490
- There is no income.
00:24:10.490 --> 00:24:12.409
There is no proof of income.
00:24:12.409 --> 00:24:13.994
What I'm saying, the only thing we've got
00:24:13.994 --> 00:24:15.412
is the food stamps.
00:24:15.412 --> 00:24:16.663
- Yeah.
00:24:16.663 --> 00:24:19.791
And how much are your food
stamps for the family?
00:24:19.791 --> 00:24:22.461
- $321 a month.
00:24:22.461 --> 00:24:23.336
- For the two of you?
00:24:23.336 --> 00:24:24.171
- Yes.
00:24:24.171 --> 00:24:26.214
- Okay, so your breathing
is still kind of bad.
00:24:26.214 --> 00:24:28.967
- He did two x-rays at the hospital.
00:24:28.967 --> 00:24:29.801
- Uh-huh.
00:24:29.801 --> 00:24:32.345
- And said that my lungs
are severely damaged.
00:24:32.345 --> 00:24:33.180
- Mm-hmm.
00:24:33.180 --> 00:24:34.681
- It kind of was a wake up call for me
00:24:34.681 --> 00:24:37.100
because I had never
heard it put like that.
00:24:37.100 --> 00:24:38.894
- Okay, with the COPD.
00:24:38.894 --> 00:24:40.353
- It scared me bad.
00:24:40.353 --> 00:24:41.855
- How much are you smoking now?
00:24:41.855 --> 00:24:43.982
- I would say about
three quarters of a pack,
00:24:43.982 --> 00:24:46.359
which is a cut down by
a quarter of a pack,
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:49.488
but it seems like when I'm trying to quit
00:24:49.488 --> 00:24:51.114
all I think about is smoking.
00:24:51.114 --> 00:24:52.532
- Sure, it's addictive.
00:24:52.532 --> 00:24:54.159
- Yeah.
00:24:54.159 --> 00:24:55.035
Geez.
00:24:55.035 --> 00:24:57.913
- I've got some nicotine in the closet,
00:24:57.913 --> 00:24:58.747
do you wanna try that?
00:24:58.747 --> 00:24:59.789
- I do.
00:24:59.789 --> 00:25:01.082
- Okay, let's do that.
00:25:01.082 --> 00:25:02.250
Let me show you how to do this.
00:25:02.250 --> 00:25:03.668
So the medicine is in here,
00:25:03.668 --> 00:25:05.629
there's a little spike in there
00:25:05.629 --> 00:25:07.589
that's got to soak in here.
00:25:07.589 --> 00:25:09.633
So you kind of line it up,
00:25:09.633 --> 00:25:12.052
and you really have got to,
00:25:12.052 --> 00:25:13.512
that's not far enough.
00:25:13.512 --> 00:25:16.223
You've gotta get it so
it's almost like a nickel
00:25:16.223 --> 00:25:18.350
is all that extends out.
00:25:18.350 --> 00:25:20.602
And then you gotta put
your mouth right on it,
00:25:20.602 --> 00:25:22.145
and press the gray button,
00:25:22.145 --> 00:25:23.772
and suck it in.
00:25:24.731 --> 00:25:26.900
So try that one, you gotta quit smoking.
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Yaaay...
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- I am working on that for sure.
00:25:29.945 --> 00:25:31.446
I know I need to.
00:25:31.446 --> 00:25:33.907
- Yeah, I know it's hard.
00:25:33.907 --> 00:25:34.991
- It's real hard.
00:25:34.991 --> 00:25:37.035
It's harder than anything I've ever quit.
00:25:40.038 --> 00:25:42.707
Like my mom always said,
that's my best friend.
00:25:44.543 --> 00:25:45.502
It is.
00:25:45.502 --> 00:25:46.336
- Really?
00:25:46.336 --> 00:25:49.339
- Yeah, I don't make friends
real easy, never have.
00:25:49.339 --> 00:25:50.882
I don't trust people that good.
00:25:53.510 --> 00:25:54.928
Besides, I've got three sisters,
00:25:54.928 --> 00:25:57.138
I don't need a lot of close friends.
00:25:57.138 --> 00:25:58.265
- Are you close with your sisters?
00:25:58.265 --> 00:25:59.099
- Very.
00:25:59.099 --> 00:25:59.933
- Okay.
00:26:03.311 --> 00:26:05.897
(gentle music)
00:26:07.524 --> 00:26:08.650
- [Penny] I don't have insurance,
00:26:08.650 --> 00:26:10.694
and I don't have the
money to go to a doctor,
00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:14.990
so coming here is the only way
00:26:14.990 --> 00:26:16.408
that I would get medical treatment,
00:26:16.408 --> 00:26:19.160
unless I go to the emergency
room every other day.
00:26:20.036 --> 00:26:22.622
(gentle music)
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- I collect solar animated figures.
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:45.604
It'll stop in a minute.
00:26:47.355 --> 00:26:49.566
But I just thought they were cute.
00:26:49.566 --> 00:26:52.235
And then once you start getting 'em
00:26:52.235 --> 00:26:53.903
every time you see one
you get another one.
00:26:53.903 --> 00:26:56.406
They start dying after a while,
00:26:56.406 --> 00:26:59.618
and so I actually threw a fair number away
00:27:02.537 --> 00:27:04.914
when we were decluttering last time.
00:27:07.792 --> 00:27:10.712
When we closed up my mom's house,
00:27:10.712 --> 00:27:13.673
we took a trailer up there.
00:27:13.673 --> 00:27:18.678
This was my grandfather's rocker,
00:27:19.554 --> 00:27:21.806
and I think it probably predates him.
00:27:21.806 --> 00:27:24.851
He died young so I never met him.
00:27:24.851 --> 00:27:26.811
My grandfather was one of the first
00:27:26.811 --> 00:27:31.358
hybrid seed corn producers in Indiana,
00:27:31.358 --> 00:27:35.195
and my father was very involved in that.
00:27:35.195 --> 00:27:37.614
My grandfather was poor,
00:27:37.614 --> 00:27:41.284
but he and my father
created wealth basically.
00:27:42.619 --> 00:27:45.205
And I've dissolved it all.
00:27:46.247 --> 00:27:50.418
All these oil paintings were by
00:27:50.418 --> 00:27:51.670
both my grandmothers.
00:27:51.670 --> 00:27:54.506
It was very fashionable
for ladies that age
00:27:54.506 --> 00:27:57.175
to paint landscapes.
00:27:58.385 --> 00:28:01.721
This is the one I like the
best from Grandma Gauss.
00:28:03.390 --> 00:28:04.224
It's moody.
00:28:06.685 --> 00:28:10.271
'Cause I don't do stairs well,
00:28:10.271 --> 00:28:12.732
I have a little bit of a balance problem,
00:28:15.235 --> 00:28:17.278
and that's where the roof is leaking,
00:28:17.278 --> 00:28:19.447
so they are going to deal with that.
00:28:20.448 --> 00:28:23.243
Robert will probably move
here when he retires,
00:28:23.243 --> 00:28:25.161
maybe about five years,
00:28:25.161 --> 00:28:27.580
so all this space can be his.
00:28:30.125 --> 00:28:34.254
- Robert Cooke, he runs
a nonprofit in Cordele.
00:28:34.254 --> 00:28:36.339
He'll continue to live over there
00:28:36.339 --> 00:28:38.550
for probably several years,
00:28:40.176 --> 00:28:43.346
but I've cleared out a drawer for him.
00:28:46.891 --> 00:28:50.437
- I didn't get really coupled
while I was in New York City,
00:28:50.437 --> 00:28:51.896
so by the time I came down here,
00:28:51.896 --> 00:28:54.065
which was getting close to
the end of my fertility,
00:28:54.065 --> 00:28:55.608
you figure if you don't find somebody
00:28:55.608 --> 00:28:57.360
in a city of seven million people
00:28:58.611 --> 00:28:59.487
get used to it.
00:29:00.947 --> 00:29:03.491
I don't know that I'd be
that great of a parent.
00:29:03.491 --> 00:29:06.161
I just always had other stuff to do.
00:29:08.037 --> 00:29:09.789
This is the Christmas room,
00:29:09.789 --> 00:29:12.167
and I used to decorate my yard,
00:29:12.167 --> 00:29:16.588
and a parsonage, my church's
parsonage across the street,
00:29:16.588 --> 00:29:19.048
so I used to decorate
it and then the office.
00:29:21.634 --> 00:29:22.969
You know, it's just too much work.
00:29:26.514 --> 00:29:29.934
This is from the women's march
00:29:29.934 --> 00:29:32.103
after Trump was inaugurated.
00:29:33.646 --> 00:29:35.190
The closet is your Fourth of,
00:29:35.190 --> 00:29:37.400
it's your minor holidays, Fourth of July,
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.612
Mardi Gras, St. Patrick's Day and Easter.
00:29:42.447 --> 00:29:44.115
And then we get into Halloween.
00:29:44.115 --> 00:29:47.368
Again, a fair amount of
this is already gone.
00:29:47.368 --> 00:29:49.454
We used to have Halloween in the house,
00:29:49.454 --> 00:29:50.789
where the whole house,
00:29:50.789 --> 00:29:52.207
downstairs part of the house
00:29:52.207 --> 00:29:53.792
was the haunted house.
00:29:53.792 --> 00:29:56.461
And the year when the child fell
00:29:56.461 --> 00:29:58.046
and broke his arm I think
00:29:58.046 --> 00:30:00.465
was the last time I really did that.
00:30:05.011 --> 00:30:07.222
And so this is where a
lot of money went to.
00:30:13.603 --> 00:30:16.189
(gentle music)
00:30:18.566 --> 00:30:19.692
When I first came here,
00:30:19.692 --> 00:30:22.570
I believe I was referred to as DYB,
00:30:22.570 --> 00:30:24.405
which stands for Damn Yankee Bitch.
00:30:27.325 --> 00:30:30.078
I had short hair, I wasn't married,
00:30:30.078 --> 00:30:32.455
everyone assumed I was homosexual.
00:30:35.500 --> 00:30:36.668
I'm not from here,
00:30:36.668 --> 00:30:39.170
and honestly after 23 years here
00:30:39.170 --> 00:30:40.672
that still makes a difference.
00:30:41.548 --> 00:30:43.675
(gentle music)
00:30:43.675 --> 00:30:45.552
Also complicating that is because
00:30:45.552 --> 00:30:48.137
there was still the one
physician who was here
00:30:48.137 --> 00:30:49.639
who also happened to be the mayor,
00:30:49.639 --> 00:30:52.058
and he really didn't want
another doctor in town.
00:30:54.310 --> 00:30:56.354
A lot of people supported me
00:30:56.354 --> 00:30:59.190
who didn't have to stick their neck out,
00:30:59.190 --> 00:31:03.278
because, again, the mayor's
people would fight them on it.
00:31:06.072 --> 00:31:08.241
But because of all those experiences
00:31:08.241 --> 00:31:09.951
is why you can't just up
00:31:09.951 --> 00:31:11.911
and walk away from something like this.
00:31:13.788 --> 00:31:16.374
(gentle music)
00:31:32.891 --> 00:31:36.311
(gentle music continues)
00:32:01.628 --> 00:32:02.462
(indistinct)
00:32:02.462 --> 00:32:04.339
- You're so well dressed.
00:32:04.339 --> 00:32:06.591
You're well dressed.
00:32:06.591 --> 00:32:09.677
This is Brad Lian, he's the,
00:32:09.677 --> 00:32:12.263
Dr. Lian is with Mercer.
00:32:12.263 --> 00:32:17.060
This is Ronald Walker,
this is Dr. Lian, this is-
00:32:17.060 --> 00:32:19.145
- How you doing sir?
00:32:19.145 --> 00:32:20.355
- This is a good survey.
00:32:20.355 --> 00:32:21.940
We're trying to help the community,
00:32:21.940 --> 00:32:23.441
so we have every right to feel confident
00:32:23.441 --> 00:32:24.984
and good about doing the survey,
00:32:24.984 --> 00:32:27.320
we're not asking for money
or something like that.
00:32:27.320 --> 00:32:28.529
A clinic is important.
00:32:28.529 --> 00:32:30.198
10 minutes can make a big difference.
00:32:30.198 --> 00:32:32.617
If you have a big emergency
00:32:32.617 --> 00:32:33.451
or any,
00:32:33.451 --> 00:32:34.285
or not even an emergency,
00:32:34.285 --> 00:32:37.372
it's nice to have a medical
facility in your town.
00:32:37.372 --> 00:32:39.290
But, doesn't it also make sense
00:32:39.290 --> 00:32:41.084
to ask the people what
they want in the clinic?
00:32:41.084 --> 00:32:41.918
- Absolutely.
00:32:41.918 --> 00:32:42.961
- And that's what we're doing.
00:32:42.961 --> 00:32:44.504
What we're gonna try to do
00:32:44.504 --> 00:32:46.047
is break up the city into four
00:32:46.047 --> 00:32:47.882
or five different sectors,
00:32:47.882 --> 00:32:50.677
and then you guys go to this section,
00:32:50.677 --> 00:32:52.053
you guys go to this section,
00:32:52.053 --> 00:32:55.974
and I have a list of streets kind of.
00:32:55.974 --> 00:32:56.808
- [Woman] Where's McKinley,
00:32:56.808 --> 00:32:58.476
okay, right here on McKinley Academy
00:32:58.476 --> 00:33:02.021
there's eight duplexes, or four,
00:33:02.021 --> 00:33:03.982
there's eight residences there.
00:33:03.982 --> 00:33:07.318
- Again, we're over sampling low income.
00:33:07.318 --> 00:33:08.736
- [Woman] Right.
00:33:08.736 --> 00:33:10.405
We're not doing door to door,
00:33:10.405 --> 00:33:12.281
we're doing every other one.
00:33:12.281 --> 00:33:13.241
- But we're still over,
00:33:13.241 --> 00:33:15.535
by picking those places to focus on
00:33:15.535 --> 00:33:17.912
we're oversampling poverty.
00:33:17.912 --> 00:33:19.747
- Do you know this area?
00:33:19.747 --> 00:33:20.999
Do you know this area?
00:33:20.999 --> 00:33:22.458
- I know all this area
to tell you the truth,
00:33:22.458 --> 00:33:24.085
I used to stay down here
00:33:24.085 --> 00:33:25.545
in the early part.
00:33:25.545 --> 00:33:27.088
before I moved in the country.
00:33:30.008 --> 00:33:32.635
- Have you been to Dr. Kinsell's office?
00:33:32.635 --> 00:33:33.553
- Mm-hmm.
00:33:33.553 --> 00:33:35.638
- How often do you guys go there?
00:33:35.638 --> 00:33:36.472
Once a year?
00:33:36.472 --> 00:33:39.726
- Well my mom, she goes once a month.
00:33:39.726 --> 00:33:40.727
- Oh, wow.
00:33:40.727 --> 00:33:41.602
- Mm-hmm.
00:33:41.602 --> 00:33:42.437
- So frequently then.
00:33:42.437 --> 00:33:43.396
- She disabled.
00:33:43.396 --> 00:33:45.106
- What type of insurance do you have?
00:33:45.106 --> 00:33:47.358
- I don't have any, I have to pay.
00:33:47.358 --> 00:33:48.151
- Okay.
00:33:48.151 --> 00:33:49.444
- But my mom, she have
Medicare and Medicaid.
00:33:49.444 --> 00:33:50.361
- Okay.
00:33:50.361 --> 00:33:51.904
How about diabetes education,
00:33:52.739 --> 00:33:53.656
how important would that be?
00:33:53.656 --> 00:33:55.616
- It's very important, five.
00:33:55.616 --> 00:33:57.160
My mom, she has diabetes.
00:34:03.583 --> 00:34:06.502
- Do you currently have health insurance?
00:34:06.502 --> 00:34:08.212
- Yes, I have Medicare.
00:34:08.212 --> 00:34:10.965
- [Dr. Lian] Okay, does
everybody in the household-
00:34:12.258 --> 00:34:13.134
- No.
00:34:13.134 --> 00:34:14.218
- [Dr. Lian] Not everybody has it?
00:34:14.218 --> 00:34:15.344
- He don't have insurance.
00:34:15.344 --> 00:34:16.304
- Okay.
00:34:16.304 --> 00:34:19.307
How important would these
services be in your opinion.
00:34:19.307 --> 00:34:20.558
Smoking cessation,
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:23.936
like education to show
people how to stop smoking
00:34:23.936 --> 00:34:24.854
and stuff like that?
00:34:24.854 --> 00:34:27.231
So would that be not
important, do you think,
00:34:27.231 --> 00:34:28.274
or would that be very important?
00:34:28.274 --> 00:34:29.108
- It would be very important
00:34:29.108 --> 00:34:29.984
'cause I'm a smoker.
00:34:29.984 --> 00:34:32.612
- [Dr. Lian] What about
behavioral health issues,
00:34:32.612 --> 00:34:35.364
like a psychologist or psychiatrist?
00:34:35.364 --> 00:34:39.827
- Yeah, because I take
mental medicine, yeah, five.
00:34:39.827 --> 00:34:40.661
- Okay.
00:34:40.661 --> 00:34:42.872
What about a local pharmacy?
00:34:42.872 --> 00:34:44.665
- A five.
00:34:44.665 --> 00:34:47.210
- It sounds like it might
be a six on that one, huh?
00:34:47.210 --> 00:34:48.044
- Yes.
00:34:48.044 --> 00:34:49.629
- What about drug abuse treatment?
00:34:49.629 --> 00:34:51.255
- Oh, five.
00:34:51.255 --> 00:34:52.048
- Okay.
00:34:52.048 --> 00:34:54.133
Do you have any specialists you see
00:34:54.133 --> 00:34:55.927
once in a while, like a heart specialist?
00:34:55.927 --> 00:35:00.723
- I see a counselor for substance abuse.
00:35:00.723 --> 00:35:01.557
- Okay.
00:35:06.729 --> 00:35:08.272
How would you rate the attentiveness
00:35:08.272 --> 00:35:11.526
and responsiveness or
promptness of the staff to you?
00:35:13.361 --> 00:35:15.530
- [Rosie] I mean I won't really complain,
00:35:15.530 --> 00:35:17.615
anything's better than nothing.
00:35:17.615 --> 00:35:19.158
- Yeah, absolutely.
00:35:19.158 --> 00:35:22.495
- Even if I'm not one
that will just attend
00:35:22.495 --> 00:35:24.413
or go to the health clinic
00:35:24.413 --> 00:35:25.790
or whatever the situation is,
00:35:25.790 --> 00:35:28.709
I would love for my
community to have better.
00:35:28.709 --> 00:35:31.587
We have, it has not been
easy in this community.
00:35:31.587 --> 00:35:33.172
I was born and raised here.
00:35:33.172 --> 00:35:34.006
- [Dr. Lian] Really?
00:35:34.006 --> 00:35:34.841
- Yeah.
00:35:34.841 --> 00:35:36.634
And this is such a rural community.
00:35:36.634 --> 00:35:40.221
There's a lot of things
that we were so deprived of,
00:35:40.221 --> 00:35:42.014
that's why so many people left
00:35:42.014 --> 00:35:45.852
and went north or somewhere
so they could have jobs
00:35:45.852 --> 00:35:46.853
and medical facility.
00:35:46.853 --> 00:35:48.896
A lot of people wanna move back here,
00:35:48.896 --> 00:35:52.441
they say no, the closest
hospital is Dothan,
00:35:52.441 --> 00:35:53.276
Eufala
00:35:53.276 --> 00:35:54.819
and they didn't wanna come back because
00:35:54.819 --> 00:35:56.487
they got medical issues,
00:35:56.487 --> 00:35:58.447
and they was afraid to come back,
00:35:58.447 --> 00:36:00.116
'cause they thought they might not be able
00:36:00.116 --> 00:36:02.869
to get to some medical facilities in time.
00:36:02.869 --> 00:36:05.329
This town here needs everything,
00:36:05.329 --> 00:36:07.540
or it needs to be closed completely down.
00:36:07.540 --> 00:36:09.333
It's just keeping it real.
00:36:09.333 --> 00:36:11.085
It's all or none.
00:36:11.085 --> 00:36:15.339
If it don't get no
better just shut it down,
00:36:15.339 --> 00:36:17.216
because if it never happens like that
00:36:17.216 --> 00:36:19.051
we will stay here and struggle forever.
00:36:19.051 --> 00:36:22.555
So it's still the slavery mentality here.
00:36:22.555 --> 00:36:25.224
My mother passed about three years ago,
00:36:25.224 --> 00:36:27.185
and this is what she
told me on her dying bed,
00:36:27.185 --> 00:36:29.854
"Whatever you do get up out of here."
00:36:29.854 --> 00:36:32.440
Get up out of this place.
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:36.110
'Cause she knew I was only
here to really help her.
00:36:36.110 --> 00:36:39.322
So I'm thinking on taking
my mother's advice,
00:36:39.322 --> 00:36:41.991
get the heck up outta here while I can.
00:36:41.991 --> 00:36:43.576
- [Cameraman] What keeps
you here right now?
00:36:43.576 --> 00:36:45.536
- Well, just trying to
get things together.
00:36:45.536 --> 00:36:47.330
And asking God to help me,
00:36:47.330 --> 00:36:49.582
to give me guidance and direction,
00:36:49.582 --> 00:36:51.167
asking which way to go,
00:36:51.167 --> 00:36:53.836
'cause I don't wanna swap
the devil for the witch.
00:36:53.836 --> 00:36:56.422
See you, it could be bad here,
00:36:56.422 --> 00:36:59.133
but if I go somewhere else
it could be even worse.
00:36:59.133 --> 00:37:01.677
So I'm asking, "God send me somewhere
00:37:01.677 --> 00:37:04.430
"that is gonna be better not worse."
00:37:04.430 --> 00:37:06.224
But I'm grateful and I'm thankful.
00:37:06.224 --> 00:37:07.850
I'm not in no depression
00:37:07.850 --> 00:37:10.019
where I'm thinking about
leaping over nowhere,
00:37:10.019 --> 00:37:11.979
I'm just holding, I'm riding it on out.
00:37:11.979 --> 00:37:14.023
I'm riding the storm on out.
00:37:14.023 --> 00:37:14.857
- [Dr. Lian] Alright.
00:37:14.857 --> 00:37:15.983
Hey, thanks again for your time.
00:37:15.983 --> 00:37:17.818
- [Rosie] All right, you so very welcome.
00:37:17.818 --> 00:37:18.694
Y'all take care.
00:37:18.694 --> 00:37:19.528
- [Dr. Lian] Enjoy the-
00:37:19.528 --> 00:37:23.074
- [Rosie] I wish you
well with the project.
00:38:03.030 --> 00:38:05.283
- Again, you are doing great,
00:38:05.283 --> 00:38:09.036
you came back at two
weeks at your appointment
00:38:09.036 --> 00:38:11.539
'cause your sugar was crazy last time.
00:38:11.539 --> 00:38:12.540
- [Calvin] Yes ma'am.
00:38:12.540 --> 00:38:14.583
- And you have done such a
good job of bringing it down.
00:38:14.583 --> 00:38:17.670
Now you were talking about
you drinking so much soda,
00:38:17.670 --> 00:38:19.005
are you doing better with that?
00:38:19.005 --> 00:38:20.256
- Yes ma'am.
00:38:20.256 --> 00:38:22.133
- How much you drinking now?
00:38:22.133 --> 00:38:23.592
- I drink diet soda.
00:38:23.592 --> 00:38:25.011
- You went to diet soda?
00:38:25.011 --> 00:38:26.137
- Yeah.
00:38:26.137 --> 00:38:27.346
- Bless your heart.
00:38:27.346 --> 00:38:28.889
But you gained 12 pounds.
00:38:28.889 --> 00:38:30.141
That's probably 'cause you're
00:38:30.141 --> 00:38:32.810
just not so sick from
your sugar being so high.
00:38:32.810 --> 00:38:33.686
- Yes ma'am.
00:38:33.686 --> 00:38:35.604
- I bet you feel better too, don't you?
00:38:35.604 --> 00:38:37.356
- I feel much better.
00:38:40.401 --> 00:38:45.323
- So I'm gonna order
you one more medicine.
00:38:45.323 --> 00:38:46.866
You know, someplace that be good for you
00:38:46.866 --> 00:38:48.117
to get your pills from
00:38:50.745 --> 00:38:51.579
these people.
00:38:52.913 --> 00:38:55.666
They'll send you pills for free.
00:38:55.666 --> 00:38:58.669
Now, do you use the computer much?
00:38:58.669 --> 00:38:59.503
- [Patient] No ma'am.
00:38:59.503 --> 00:39:00.338
- Okay.
00:39:03.174 --> 00:39:04.425
Your girlfriend was here last time,
00:39:04.425 --> 00:39:06.886
is she good with a computer?
00:39:06.886 --> 00:39:09.138
- [Calvin] Yeah, I
think my sister had one.
00:39:09.138 --> 00:39:09.972
- Okay.
00:39:09.972 --> 00:39:11.891
Or they use it on their phone?
00:39:11.891 --> 00:39:13.225
- I think so.
00:39:13.225 --> 00:39:14.143
- Okay.
00:39:14.143 --> 00:39:15.186
- [Telephone Prompt] If
you are a new patient
00:39:15.186 --> 00:39:18.064
and need to register, press one.
00:39:18.064 --> 00:39:20.149
If you are a current...
00:39:20.149 --> 00:39:22.735
- And nobody has an email then.
00:39:22.735 --> 00:39:23.611
- No.
00:39:23.611 --> 00:39:25.529
- Okay.
00:39:25.529 --> 00:39:26.864
This is Dr. Kinsell,
00:39:26.864 --> 00:39:30.242
K-I-N-S-E-L-L, at Clay
County Medical Center.
00:39:30.242 --> 00:39:31.077
Medical Center.
00:39:31.077 --> 00:39:32.787
So many of our patients don't have emails
00:39:32.787 --> 00:39:35.206
so we can't register email,
00:39:35.206 --> 00:39:37.708
and it won't take the form without that.
00:39:37.708 --> 00:39:39.460
Can you tell them they said
00:39:39.460 --> 00:39:43.589
they would send us faxable forms down,
00:39:43.589 --> 00:39:45.049
said that other day.
00:39:46.926 --> 00:39:48.344
- That was a doctor, yes ma'am.
00:39:48.344 --> 00:39:50.721
Like she said he doesn't
have an email address.
00:39:52.348 --> 00:39:53.265
- What they're gonna do
00:39:53.265 --> 00:39:57.019
is they're gonna send you
three months of this one
00:39:57.019 --> 00:39:59.105
and this one and the two new ones,
00:39:59.105 --> 00:40:02.608
and then they're gonna
send you a bill for $6
00:40:02.608 --> 00:40:03.526
for the first time,
00:40:03.526 --> 00:40:06.487
and then you can send him a
money order or something back
00:40:06.487 --> 00:40:08.781
so it does work out quite a bit cheaper.
00:40:08.781 --> 00:40:11.283
So we can make you an
appointment back next month,
00:40:11.283 --> 00:40:12.535
and then if you keep doing so good,
00:40:12.535 --> 00:40:14.745
we'll make it like every three
months or something. Okay.
00:40:14.745 --> 00:40:15.579
Okay?
00:40:15.579 --> 00:40:17.039
- Okay.
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:18.249
- You've done your job,
00:40:18.249 --> 00:40:21.043
now just figure out how to
use the machine so you can...
00:40:22.002 --> 00:40:22.962
If you can figure it out,
00:40:22.962 --> 00:40:25.089
if you can check it maybe once a day.
00:40:26.298 --> 00:40:30.594
(gentle music)
00:40:35.641 --> 00:40:38.477
Well, we're still talking with Mercer.
00:40:41.147 --> 00:40:45.860
They seem to have changed
their plans for this clinic.
00:40:48.529 --> 00:40:50.573
The plan was always that they would
00:40:50.573 --> 00:40:53.159
take care of the poor
people who live here.
00:40:54.410 --> 00:40:56.912
There was talk about a
minimum sliding fee schedule
00:40:56.912 --> 00:41:00.124
starting at $15 but that no
one would be turned away.
00:41:02.585 --> 00:41:05.713
They kind of questioned
that we needed that.
00:41:11.093 --> 00:41:13.137
I think we've resolved that,
00:41:13.137 --> 00:41:16.640
but it just makes no sense for healthcare
00:41:16.640 --> 00:41:18.350
to be open in Clay County
00:41:18.350 --> 00:41:20.603
if we can't see all the
people who are here.
00:41:20.603 --> 00:41:22.313
And of course that's
the reason why I'm here,
00:41:22.313 --> 00:41:24.773
and if I can't do that I won't stay here.
00:41:28.777 --> 00:41:30.863
- [Jenna] Hot dog.
00:41:30.863 --> 00:41:31.989
- I certainly hope
00:41:31.989 --> 00:41:34.241
and expect things will
still work out with them,
00:41:34.241 --> 00:41:35.951
I'm not sure in what manner.
00:41:37.786 --> 00:41:40.539
- Our walk-in's are from 7:30 to 10 today.
00:41:40.539 --> 00:41:43.792
- I haven't seen you in,
gosh, almost two years.
00:41:43.792 --> 00:41:46.086
Okay, so you've been going to school?
00:41:46.086 --> 00:41:49.256
- School and online classes now.
00:41:49.256 --> 00:41:50.591
- [Dr. Kinsell] You're online now?
00:41:50.591 --> 00:41:52.718
- [Javon] Yes, three online classes.
00:41:52.718 --> 00:41:53.552
- [Dr. Kinsell] How's that going?
00:41:53.552 --> 00:41:54.512
- I'm doing good.
00:41:54.512 --> 00:41:56.805
I got all A's and B's for now.
00:41:56.805 --> 00:41:59.058
- So your major would be computers then?
00:41:59.058 --> 00:41:59.934
- [Javon] Yeah.
00:41:59.934 --> 00:42:00.809
- Okay.
00:42:00.809 --> 00:42:02.353
- [Javon] Yes ma'am.
00:42:02.353 --> 00:42:03.854
(Dr. Kinsell laughing)
00:42:03.854 --> 00:42:04.980
- [Kemble] So what's wrong with you?
00:42:04.980 --> 00:42:06.899
What you don't do at night?
00:42:06.899 --> 00:42:08.484
- I can't sleep.
00:42:08.484 --> 00:42:10.152
- [Kemble] And I know I hear him at three
00:42:10.152 --> 00:42:12.071
4:00 in the morning.
00:42:12.071 --> 00:42:13.614
- [Javon] That's the TV.
00:42:13.614 --> 00:42:15.449
- No, I heard you.
00:42:15.449 --> 00:42:16.909
That was you singing.
00:42:16.909 --> 00:42:18.327
You be making noise and stuff.
00:42:18.327 --> 00:42:19.745
- I was a little singing.
00:42:19.745 --> 00:42:23.624
- We do think he has sleep
apnea that's not treated,
00:42:23.624 --> 00:42:26.877
if you make him more drowsy
that could actually be
00:42:26.877 --> 00:42:29.296
kind of dangerous 'cause the snoring
00:42:29.296 --> 00:42:32.174
is kind of him waking
up a little bit almost.
00:42:32.174 --> 00:42:34.927
And if he's more drugged out
00:42:34.927 --> 00:42:36.470
he wouldn't be able to wake up as much.
00:42:36.470 --> 00:42:40.015
So if he's ready to go
ahead and do a sleep study,
00:42:40.015 --> 00:42:42.935
that would be real important
to go ahead and do.
00:42:42.935 --> 00:42:44.436
- [Kemble] I need one too.
00:42:44.436 --> 00:42:45.646
- [Dr. Kinsell] Okay.
00:42:45.646 --> 00:42:47.815
- If we could get the
same night would be great.
00:42:47.815 --> 00:42:49.733
'Cause I have an appointment
for a sleep study,
00:42:49.733 --> 00:42:51.735
but it's in Tifton.
00:42:51.735 --> 00:42:53.737
- [Dr. Kinsell] So you don't
wanna do the one in Tifton?
00:42:53.737 --> 00:42:55.948
- No, because I don't have anybody,
00:42:55.948 --> 00:42:58.534
140 miles, I don't think
I'm gonna go there.
00:42:58.534 --> 00:42:59.994
- Yeah.
00:42:59.994 --> 00:43:04.248
Well it might be 120 miles
to Albany round trip.
00:43:04.248 --> 00:43:07.418
- Yeah, but that's one way to Tifton.
00:43:07.418 --> 00:43:08.752
- Okay.
00:43:08.752 --> 00:43:11.213
- Medicare, that's what
they do for transportation,
00:43:11.213 --> 00:43:14.842
you can only get 12 trips
a year with Medicare.
00:43:14.842 --> 00:43:17.761
'Cause I was trying to get
them to take me to Tifton
00:43:17.761 --> 00:43:19.888
from 512 North Washington,
00:43:19.888 --> 00:43:22.349
and I asked for them to take me to Tifton,
00:43:22.349 --> 00:43:24.518
and she said she couldn't 'cause it was
00:43:24.518 --> 00:43:26.687
over 60 miles one way.
00:43:26.687 --> 00:43:28.480
- [Dr. Kinsell] Okay.
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:31.734
- I also want my Ambien
so I can go to sleep,
00:43:31.734 --> 00:43:33.652
so I won't be up when he...
00:43:33.652 --> 00:43:35.738
Well he'll be asleep now.
00:43:36.822 --> 00:43:38.782
- And, again, we worry about doing that
00:43:38.782 --> 00:43:41.243
because if you do have sleep apnea,
00:43:41.243 --> 00:43:43.621
if you sleep harder you
may forget to wake up.
00:43:44.872 --> 00:43:47.082
- Oh believe me my
bladder's not gonna let me
00:43:47.082 --> 00:43:48.250
forget to wake up.
00:43:48.250 --> 00:43:51.795
- Well it only takes about
four minutes to be a problem.
00:43:51.795 --> 00:43:53.756
I know you've tolerated it before
00:43:53.756 --> 00:43:55.591
but it is a worry.
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:57.968
Okay?
00:43:57.968 --> 00:43:58.802
- Okay.
00:43:59.678 --> 00:44:02.640
- All right, so take that out front.
00:44:02.640 --> 00:44:04.099
Good to see you though.
00:44:04.099 --> 00:44:04.933
- Good to see you too.
00:44:04.933 --> 00:44:06.143
- And Javon, real proud of you.
00:44:06.143 --> 00:44:07.019
- [Javon] Thank you.
00:44:07.019 --> 00:44:08.270
- Real proud of you.
00:44:08.270 --> 00:44:10.856
(gentle music)
00:44:12.858 --> 00:44:13.984
- [Kemble] We have to go out of town
00:44:13.984 --> 00:44:16.403
for every other doctor.
00:44:16.403 --> 00:44:18.822
Like we was talking about the dentist,
00:44:18.822 --> 00:44:21.075
when we actually had a dentist right here,
00:44:21.075 --> 00:44:24.453
and they turned the dentist
office into a liquor store.
00:44:25.537 --> 00:44:28.832
(gentle music continues)
00:44:49.520 --> 00:44:50.938
- Mercer has told me from the beginning
00:44:50.938 --> 00:44:52.439
that they would hire me,
00:44:52.439 --> 00:44:54.149
although at a very low salary.
00:44:56.902 --> 00:44:58.904
And then they literally came down,
00:44:58.904 --> 00:45:02.866
and signed the agreement to get the lease
00:45:02.866 --> 00:45:05.369
on the building that's being renovated,
00:45:05.369 --> 00:45:06.286
and drove over here,
00:45:06.286 --> 00:45:09.206
and told me that they
decided not to hire me.
00:45:10.332 --> 00:45:12.918
(gentle music)
00:45:14.211 --> 00:45:17.256
I was completely devastated.
00:45:19.591 --> 00:45:21.969
Could not function.
00:45:24.805 --> 00:45:27.015
I think really it has more to do with
00:45:27.015 --> 00:45:30.185
they do not want to
honor their commitments,
00:45:30.185 --> 00:45:31.311
their repeated commitments
00:45:31.311 --> 00:45:33.021
to offer affordable care here.
00:45:37.985 --> 00:45:39.027
When they open the clinic,
00:45:39.027 --> 00:45:40.654
I think they're primarily expecting
00:45:40.654 --> 00:45:42.823
people who have insurance.
00:45:45.784 --> 00:45:48.746
And that kind of makes
sense except for the fact
00:45:48.746 --> 00:45:49.830
that Clay is one of
00:45:49.830 --> 00:45:53.041
the top five uninsured
counties in Georgia,
00:45:53.041 --> 00:45:55.043
one of the poorest counties in Georgia,
00:45:55.043 --> 00:45:57.171
and has the worst health
status in Georgia.
00:46:01.175 --> 00:46:03.385
I couldn't envision at first
00:46:03.385 --> 00:46:05.888
even being able to stay open here
00:46:05.888 --> 00:46:08.223
'cause I assume they'll
take some patients,
00:46:08.223 --> 00:46:10.476
but I'm gonna stay open.
00:46:12.227 --> 00:46:16.940
I can't abandon my individual patients,
00:46:16.940 --> 00:46:18.400
knowing that they're not gonna
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.152
get the care that they need.
00:46:21.904 --> 00:46:24.823
And so I can't leave.
00:46:27.701 --> 00:46:32.623
You can't just walk away.
00:46:32.623 --> 00:46:33.957
- Have a good day now, take care now.
00:46:33.957 --> 00:46:35.000
- You too.
00:46:36.126 --> 00:46:38.712
(gentle music)
00:46:58.941 --> 00:47:01.693
(birds chirping)
00:47:14.790 --> 00:47:16.166
I just love to sit here,
00:47:16.166 --> 00:47:17.835
and look up at the...
00:47:17.835 --> 00:47:21.255
During the COVID the leaves
were just starting to come out,
00:47:21.255 --> 00:47:22.297
it's really...
00:47:22.297 --> 00:47:25.551
(phone ringing)
00:47:25.551 --> 00:47:27.135
This is Dr. Kinsell,
00:47:27.135 --> 00:47:29.221
I'm sorry I'm calling you late.
00:47:29.221 --> 00:47:31.306
What's going on with you?
00:47:31.306 --> 00:47:33.559
Did your wife end up with a virus?
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:35.853
- [Fredrick, On Phone] Yeah,
she end up with the virus.
00:47:35.853 --> 00:47:38.063
- Oh my word, how is she now?
00:47:38.063 --> 00:47:39.606
- [Fredrick] She's fine.
00:47:39.606 --> 00:47:41.900
She went back to work
about three weeks ago,
00:47:41.900 --> 00:47:43.443
and I did too.
00:47:43.443 --> 00:47:44.486
- But you never caught it?
00:47:44.486 --> 00:47:45.404
- [Fredrick] I never caught it.
00:47:45.404 --> 00:47:46.864
If I had it, I didn't know it,
00:47:46.864 --> 00:47:49.157
'cause I didn't have the first symptom.
00:47:49.157 --> 00:47:51.785
- How do you feel otherwise?
00:47:51.785 --> 00:47:52.786
- [Fredrick] Sugar's doing good.
00:47:52.786 --> 00:47:54.288
Last time I spoke with you,
00:47:54.288 --> 00:47:56.039
I had got on this diet,
00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:59.418
and I lost about 25 pounds.
00:47:59.418 --> 00:48:01.837
- [Dr. Kinsell] Have
you kept the weight off?
00:48:01.837 --> 00:48:03.922
- [Fredrick] No, I done gained it back.
00:48:03.922 --> 00:48:05.299
- Huh.
00:48:05.299 --> 00:48:09.303
Would you be able to come
over to the office tomorrow?
00:48:09.303 --> 00:48:12.014
COVID still is kind of
really going around,
00:48:12.014 --> 00:48:14.099
we're getting a lot of calls
in Clay County this week,
00:48:14.099 --> 00:48:18.228
so that's why we're not
just opening the doors,
00:48:18.228 --> 00:48:20.731
but I'll have the nurse
call you in tomorrow,
00:48:20.731 --> 00:48:23.317
'cause I definitely wanna
check your sugar again.
00:48:23.317 --> 00:48:24.651
- [Man On Phone] Okay, that'll work.
00:48:24.651 --> 00:48:25.444
- Okay, good.
00:48:25.444 --> 00:48:27.821
I'm glad you get, glad you
let us know about this.
00:48:27.821 --> 00:48:28.697
- [Fredrick] All right.
00:48:28.697 --> 00:48:29.615
Thanks ma'am.
00:48:29.615 --> 00:48:30.449
- Be safe, okay.
00:48:30.449 --> 00:48:31.408
- [Fredrick] Yes ma'am, you too.
00:48:31.408 --> 00:48:32.242
- Okay, hun.
00:48:32.242 --> 00:48:33.076
Bye-bye.
00:48:41.084 --> 00:48:43.670
(gentle music)
00:48:46.214 --> 00:48:48.383
I say I wanna work for
another five or 10 years,
00:48:48.383 --> 00:48:49.968
till I'm 70 or 75,
00:48:49.968 --> 00:48:53.764
but I don't have much of
anything saved up for retirement
00:48:55.349 --> 00:48:56.683
so I have to be working part-time
00:48:56.683 --> 00:48:59.019
even just to sustain myself.
00:49:04.483 --> 00:49:06.610
I started work as the medical director
00:49:06.610 --> 00:49:08.570
at the methadone clinic in Columbus.
00:49:12.407 --> 00:49:15.619
Right now I'm getting up
at 3:45 four days a week,
00:49:15.619 --> 00:49:20.123
and that gets tiring.
00:49:31.259 --> 00:49:35.347
You know, I presume Mercer
is still planning on opening.
00:49:37.474 --> 00:49:39.393
I don't know what'll
happen when they open.
00:49:39.393 --> 00:49:41.770
I mean, they may suck
up everybody over there.
00:49:43.772 --> 00:49:46.358
(gentle music)
00:50:27.441 --> 00:50:30.235
- Ms. Kathy, this is Brandi
at Dr. Kinsell's office,
00:50:30.235 --> 00:50:31.945
please gimme a call.
00:50:31.945 --> 00:50:36.908
- Our computer part doesn't
work right now. (laughs)
00:50:36.950 --> 00:50:38.994
It's the best thing I can-
00:50:38.994 --> 00:50:41.204
- [Michael, On Phone] Well
when I use the cell phone
00:50:41.204 --> 00:50:43.331
I have to go out into the yard,
00:50:43.331 --> 00:50:45.584
and it's either hit or miss.
00:50:45.584 --> 00:50:48.879
- I've heard that so many times, yep.
00:50:48.879 --> 00:50:52.132
I've seen people standing
under the shed outside
00:50:52.132 --> 00:50:53.884
out of the rain so they can make a call.
00:50:53.884 --> 00:50:57.387
I mean this whole idea
of the video is just,
00:50:57.387 --> 00:50:59.931
we're not ready for that out here yet.
00:50:59.931 --> 00:51:01.725
How is your sugar doing?
00:51:01.725 --> 00:51:04.519
- [Michael] I haven't checked it lately.
00:51:06.188 --> 00:51:08.231
I've been, but I've been doing well.
00:51:08.231 --> 00:51:12.277
The worst part about all
this, this staying at home,
00:51:12.277 --> 00:51:14.780
I think I've gained some weight, okay?
00:51:14.780 --> 00:51:15.864
- Uh-huh.
00:51:15.864 --> 00:51:16.907
- [Michael] Before I was really,
00:51:16.907 --> 00:51:18.116
I was really working on the weight
00:51:18.116 --> 00:51:19.284
before you had to stay at home,
00:51:19.284 --> 00:51:20.827
and you couldn't go anywhere.
00:51:20.827 --> 00:51:23.538
Then I started to having
to cook for myself.
00:51:23.538 --> 00:51:25.749
- Maybe that cut it down.
00:51:25.749 --> 00:51:26.917
- [Michael] Still there?
00:51:26.917 --> 00:51:28.752
- [Dr. Kinsell] Yeah.
00:51:28.752 --> 00:51:31.463
- [Michael] Okay, hold on,
I've gotta change phones,
00:51:31.463 --> 00:51:33.590
the battery on it.
00:51:33.590 --> 00:51:36.551
- [Dr. Kinsell] Okay.
00:51:36.551 --> 00:51:38.303
- [Michael] You still there?
00:51:38.303 --> 00:51:39.763
- [Dr. Kinsell] Yeah.
00:51:39.763 --> 00:51:40.847
- [Michael] Okay.
00:51:40.847 --> 00:51:42.265
Now what was you saying?
00:51:42.265 --> 00:51:43.850
- Michael, you were 301
00:51:43.850 --> 00:51:45.936
when you were in the office last time.
00:51:47.062 --> 00:51:47.896
- [Michael] I know that,
00:51:47.896 --> 00:51:52.234
but I told you I've been
having to sit at home,
00:51:52.234 --> 00:51:53.485
I've been cooking.
00:51:53.485 --> 00:51:54.319
- [Dr. Kinsell] Okay, okay.
00:51:54.319 --> 00:51:56.530
- [Michael] It might not be 310, you know?
00:51:56.530 --> 00:51:57.447
- Okay.
00:51:57.447 --> 00:51:58.740
- [Michael] You really certainly,
00:51:58.740 --> 00:52:01.118
my health is much better
00:52:01.118 --> 00:52:03.453
with the visitations.
00:52:03.453 --> 00:52:06.832
I do miss you though, a personal visit,
00:52:06.832 --> 00:52:08.208
and thank you for all that you do for me.
00:52:08.208 --> 00:52:10.877
- Okay, sweetheart, take care.
00:52:10.877 --> 00:52:12.003
- [Michael] You too, good day.
00:52:12.003 --> 00:52:12.963
- Okay, hun.
00:52:15.173 --> 00:52:18.760
You, line two was someone
calling about an appointment,
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:21.096
you said Kendra was on hold for me?
00:52:21.096 --> 00:52:23.265
- In tonight's "Brief but Spectacular,"
00:52:23.265 --> 00:52:25.225
we visit Dr. Karen Kinsell,
00:52:25.225 --> 00:52:28.395
she's the only physician
in Fort Gaines, Georgia,
00:52:28.395 --> 00:52:31.439
where she serves her
town's 3000 residents.
00:52:32.566 --> 00:52:34.943
(gentle music)
00:52:34.943 --> 00:52:37.362
- Our office was not built
as a doctor's office,
00:52:37.362 --> 00:52:38.655
and really shouldn't be a doctor's office.
00:52:38.655 --> 00:52:41.324
I really wish I was a
better public speaker.
00:52:41.324 --> 00:52:43.493
And it comes off as such a downer.
00:52:43.493 --> 00:52:44.494
I'm not animated.
00:52:44.494 --> 00:52:46.580
- [Cameraman] Is that why
you have "smile" over here?
00:52:46.580 --> 00:52:49.249
- Well, that's the camera thing.
00:52:50.500 --> 00:52:53.753
There was a PBS piece that
aired about two months ago,
00:52:53.753 --> 00:52:55.172
and they had told us
00:52:55.172 --> 00:52:57.007
"Oh, be sure you have a Facebook page
00:52:57.007 --> 00:52:57.841
"and everything 'cause you're gonna
00:52:57.841 --> 00:52:59.384
"get a lot of donations afterwards."
00:52:59.384 --> 00:53:01.136
And I kind of poo-pooed that,
00:53:01.136 --> 00:53:03.471
but we just started getting letters
00:53:03.471 --> 00:53:05.724
and donations in the mail.
00:53:05.724 --> 00:53:06.766
Got some phone calls,
00:53:06.766 --> 00:53:08.560
but most people just mailed things.
00:53:08.560 --> 00:53:10.729
One lady called Saturday morning,
00:53:10.729 --> 00:53:13.064
and asked me if I could use $2,500.
00:53:13.064 --> 00:53:14.649
I go "Sure."
00:53:14.649 --> 00:53:16.860
And I said "Well, do
you need a tax deduction
00:53:16.860 --> 00:53:17.903
"to the nonprofit?"
00:53:17.903 --> 00:53:21.031
And she said "Well, no these
checks were from Donald Trump,
00:53:21.031 --> 00:53:24.159
"so we don't care if
they're non-profit or not."
00:53:28.496 --> 00:53:33.501
This is the grocery bag
of letters we've gotten
00:53:35.587 --> 00:53:38.798
from people who sent us money.
00:53:40.300 --> 00:53:42.219
This is from California.
00:53:42.219 --> 00:53:45.013
Hello, we heard about the
extraordinary work you do
00:53:45.013 --> 00:53:49.226
on the news hour, hope this
helps a little, take care.
00:53:49.226 --> 00:53:51.895
Greetings, I saw you on PBS recently,
00:53:51.895 --> 00:53:53.563
and was inspired to send
you a little donation
00:53:53.563 --> 00:53:55.065
to use however you see best.
00:53:55.065 --> 00:53:57.400
Thanks for being you, best wishes.
00:53:57.400 --> 00:53:59.569
Out yonder in rural Georgia,
00:53:59.569 --> 00:54:00.445
in rural Oregon.
00:54:00.445 --> 00:54:02.572
She's out yonder in rural Oregon.
00:54:02.572 --> 00:54:03.657
That's sweet.
00:54:03.657 --> 00:54:06.284
So far it's been a little over 30,000.
00:54:06.284 --> 00:54:10.914
People have no idea how touching that is
00:54:10.914 --> 00:54:14.793
that someone happened to see that piece,
00:54:14.793 --> 00:54:16.294
and mailed a check.
00:54:16.294 --> 00:54:17.921
I mean, it's just astonishing.
00:54:20.215 --> 00:54:22.550
And I feel inadequate.
00:54:22.550 --> 00:54:24.803
You know, I mean what is
a good enough response
00:54:24.803 --> 00:54:26.221
to thank them for this?
00:54:26.221 --> 00:54:28.473
This is from Tennessee.
00:54:28.473 --> 00:54:30.392
This is from Maryland.
00:54:30.392 --> 00:54:32.811
I'm gonna be able to purchase the building
00:54:32.811 --> 00:54:34.938
where the clinic is,
00:54:34.938 --> 00:54:37.482
the estate that we've been renting it from
00:54:37.482 --> 00:54:39.442
is giving me a very reasonable price.
00:54:42.612 --> 00:54:44.322
We closed for COVID,
00:54:44.322 --> 00:54:45.573
and we had this opportunity to,
00:54:45.573 --> 00:54:47.826
to make some major
renovations to the office.
00:54:49.411 --> 00:54:51.997
(gentle music)
00:54:53.164 --> 00:54:55.875
I think it will maintain our patient base,
00:54:55.875 --> 00:54:57.669
probably attract new patients,
00:54:57.669 --> 00:55:00.714
and prevent the building
from just rotting out
00:55:00.714 --> 00:55:01.798
in the meantime.
00:55:04.551 --> 00:55:07.971
(gentle music continues)
00:55:09.556 --> 00:55:11.683
We knew this building had to be upgraded
00:55:11.683 --> 00:55:12.726
one way or another,
00:55:12.726 --> 00:55:16.146
and I didn't see how I
could afford to do it.
00:55:16.146 --> 00:55:18.732
(gentle music)
00:55:22.485 --> 00:55:24.779
It's really been a lifesaver.
00:55:34.831 --> 00:55:38.168
(indistinct chattering)
00:55:42.255 --> 00:55:44.507
It probably would work, but...
00:55:44.507 --> 00:55:45.467
- It would.
00:55:45.467 --> 00:55:47.802
- Does that look too stupid?
00:55:49.929 --> 00:55:52.182
- [Brandi] I don't think so.
00:56:05.862 --> 00:56:10.825
- That was fun. (laughs)
00:56:14.204 --> 00:56:16.790
(cell phone ringing)
00:56:16.790 --> 00:56:18.625
Hey, it's Dr. Kinsell.
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:27.467
- First to start I'd like to find an area
00:56:27.467 --> 00:56:30.678
that you feel comfortable
being interviewed in,
00:56:30.678 --> 00:56:31.763
whether it's your desk,
00:56:31.763 --> 00:56:34.099
or a chair that you like somewhere.
00:56:34.099 --> 00:56:36.226
- You're aware that
this was a Tasty Freeze,
00:56:36.226 --> 00:56:37.060
this was the freezer.
00:56:37.060 --> 00:56:38.686
- Yes, I did catch that.
00:56:38.686 --> 00:56:41.564
- Do I need a better
background than Post-Its?
00:56:41.564 --> 00:56:42.565
- I don't dislike,
00:56:42.565 --> 00:56:44.359
do you have something in mind?
00:56:44.359 --> 00:56:46.903
I don't completely dislike the Post-Its.
00:56:50.698 --> 00:56:52.534
Whenever you're ready.
00:56:55.703 --> 00:56:57.038
- You know, we don't need someone
00:56:57.038 --> 00:56:58.873
who owns a New York Stock Exchange
00:56:58.873 --> 00:57:01.042
as our senator for Georgia,
00:57:01.042 --> 00:57:03.211
I want someone who's been arrested
00:57:03.211 --> 00:57:05.964
for fighting for Medicaid expansion.
00:57:05.964 --> 00:57:09.050
It's time, it's time for change.
00:57:09.050 --> 00:57:10.468
We need a warrior.
00:57:10.468 --> 00:57:13.221
We need a Warnock, a warrior.
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:19.102
I think they should be using war.
00:57:19.102 --> 00:57:20.979
And I realize that kind of conflicts with
00:57:20.979 --> 00:57:22.856
some of the other core values,
00:57:22.856 --> 00:57:24.649
but 20 people on the ballot,
00:57:24.649 --> 00:57:26.276
and your second from the last,
00:57:26.276 --> 00:57:29.779
you have to have some identifier.
00:57:29.779 --> 00:57:31.698
You parked up front?
00:57:31.698 --> 00:57:33.700
- I did.
00:57:33.700 --> 00:57:35.994
- Do you need the bathroom
or a protein shake?
00:57:37.328 --> 00:57:39.164
- Protein shake?
00:57:39.164 --> 00:57:39.998
- Uh-huh.
00:57:41.124 --> 00:57:41.958
- Woo.
00:57:41.958 --> 00:57:42.792
Those are the good kind.
00:57:42.792 --> 00:57:43.626
- Uh-huh.
00:57:46.045 --> 00:57:47.505
Awesome.
00:57:47.505 --> 00:57:48.756
- Appreciate y'all,
00:57:48.756 --> 00:57:50.967
I'm sure we will share a
copy of the video with you
00:57:50.967 --> 00:57:52.010
once it's done.
00:57:52.010 --> 00:57:52.886
- [Dr. Kinsell] Thank you.
00:57:52.886 --> 00:57:53.720
- Thanks.
00:57:53.720 --> 00:57:54.554
- Okay.
00:57:54.554 --> 00:57:55.597
Drive carefully.
00:58:00.268 --> 00:58:02.103
Hey, it's Dr. Kinsell.
00:58:21.789 --> 00:58:24.459
(Ken whistling)
00:58:26.794 --> 00:58:30.256
- This is to the nursing
home through these doors.
00:58:30.256 --> 00:58:31.424
Heating and air conditioning,
00:58:31.424 --> 00:58:34.219
it's control room, computer room.
00:58:34.219 --> 00:58:37.347
This is the clinic break room.
00:58:40.099 --> 00:58:45.063
Medicine storage,
samples, vaccine storage,
00:58:45.063 --> 00:58:47.899
refrigerator, nurse's quarters.
00:58:47.899 --> 00:58:51.110
And this will be the doc's
office, doctor's office.
00:58:52.904 --> 00:58:57.534
And he has his own bathroom.
00:58:57.534 --> 00:58:58.618
This is the lab.
00:58:58.618 --> 00:59:01.371
Go ahead and take a urine sample,
00:59:01.371 --> 00:59:03.414
you'd put it in there.
00:59:05.792 --> 00:59:08.461
(Ken whistling)
00:59:10.213 --> 00:59:14.342
This room is gonna be
primarily telemedicine,
00:59:14.342 --> 00:59:16.010
and then x-ray room.
00:59:21.933 --> 00:59:24.435
Mercer will provide the x-ray.
00:59:27.313 --> 00:59:30.233
- [Ken] Couple weeks I would guess.
00:59:38.491 --> 00:59:41.077
(gentle music)
00:59:47.875 --> 00:59:49.586
It is happening, thank goodness.
00:59:49.586 --> 00:59:52.088
After years and years it is happening.
00:59:53.506 --> 00:59:56.092
(gentle music)
01:00:26.497 --> 01:00:28.416
- [Robert] You wanna tell the story?
01:00:28.416 --> 01:00:29.459
- [Dr. Kinsell] OkCupid.
01:00:29.459 --> 01:00:31.127
- We met on OkCupid.
01:00:32.086 --> 01:00:34.172
- [Robert] I couldn't believe
that I didn't know her already
01:00:34.172 --> 01:00:36.466
'cause she was writing about
01:00:36.466 --> 01:00:38.968
being interested in
social justice on OkCupid,
01:00:38.968 --> 01:00:41.179
how did I miss this
woman in South Georgia?
01:00:42.513 --> 01:00:44.849
We've lived in separate
towns the whole time.
01:00:44.849 --> 01:00:49.145
We've been commuting about
two hours each way on weekends
01:00:49.145 --> 01:00:51.564
for going on 12 years now.
01:00:52.607 --> 01:00:54.776
- A situation that I've never
really seen before here,
01:00:54.776 --> 01:00:56.778
people have been stealing the signs,
01:00:56.778 --> 01:00:59.947
so we've been placing them back,
01:00:59.947 --> 01:01:02.784
but the idea of removing the signs
01:01:02.784 --> 01:01:06.329
I find pretty abhorrent.
01:01:06.329 --> 01:01:08.289
- [Cameraman] So who are you voting for?
01:01:08.289 --> 01:01:10.833
- Um, that's even not so... (laughs)
01:01:13.127 --> 01:01:16.547
I support anyone who supports
access to healthcare,
01:01:17.632 --> 01:01:20.385
and it seems to be Ossoff
and Warnock in this case.
01:01:29.185 --> 01:01:31.020
Here's a Warnock sign,
01:01:37.944 --> 01:01:40.863
and here's a couple
Ossoff and Warnock signs.
01:01:42.907 --> 01:01:44.367
So they're kinda wet.
01:01:46.994 --> 01:01:48.538
Often they'll bend them like this
01:01:48.538 --> 01:01:51.082
so you can't really put
'em back up straight again.
01:01:58.423 --> 01:02:00.758
Yeah, can I have an Ossoff over here?
01:02:01.884 --> 01:02:02.719
- [Robert] Have a which one?
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:03.636
- An Ossoff at least.
01:02:12.478 --> 01:02:16.733
And generally people respect
if it's on private property,
01:02:16.733 --> 01:02:17.567
they won't touch it,
01:02:17.567 --> 01:02:21.571
but signs were stolen
in front of my house.
01:02:21.571 --> 01:02:25.199
This, I'm just, covered under some gravel,
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:27.410
is a Stacey Abrams for governor sign.
01:02:29.787 --> 01:02:32.540
So, yeah, there's been many signs
01:02:32.540 --> 01:02:34.667
born and died here,
01:02:34.667 --> 01:02:36.711
and it's litter.
01:02:57.565 --> 01:03:00.318
(knocking on door)
01:03:01.611 --> 01:03:02.779
Hey.
01:03:02.779 --> 01:03:03.613
- [Bonnie] Hey.
01:03:03.613 --> 01:03:04.489
- [Dr. Kinsell] How are you?
01:03:04.489 --> 01:03:07.033
- I've been seeing that psychiatrist,
01:03:07.867 --> 01:03:12.288
I been going to the group
sessions there in Cuthbert,
01:03:12.288 --> 01:03:15.541
and it was tied into
the Cuthbert Hospital.
01:03:15.541 --> 01:03:16.709
- [Dr. Kinsell] Yeah.
01:03:16.709 --> 01:03:18.711
- Well they closed the Cuthbert Hospital.
01:03:18.711 --> 01:03:19.545
- Yeah.
01:03:19.545 --> 01:03:21.464
- Thereforth I don't have
a psychiatrist anymore.
01:03:21.464 --> 01:03:23.841
- Well what did they say to do then?
01:03:23.841 --> 01:03:25.843
- They said I'd have to find a doctor.
01:03:25.843 --> 01:03:27.762
- They didn't set anything up?
01:03:27.762 --> 01:03:29.055
- No, that's exactly what they said,
01:03:29.055 --> 01:03:31.682
you gotta find a doctor,
find you another doctor.
01:03:31.682 --> 01:03:35.311
- Okay, let me give you the phone number
01:03:35.311 --> 01:03:38.481
for the one that's closest.
01:03:38.481 --> 01:03:40.775
And you've lost some more
weight too, haven't you?
01:03:40.775 --> 01:03:42.610
- Yeah, that concerns me too.
01:03:42.610 --> 01:03:44.695
- [Dr. Kinsell] What's going on there?
01:03:44.695 --> 01:03:46.697
- I just don't feel like eating anymore.
01:03:47.782 --> 01:03:49.659
- Do does your stomach hurt?
01:03:49.659 --> 01:03:50.618
- Nuh-uh.
01:03:50.618 --> 01:03:51.869
My stomach don't hurt.
01:03:51.869 --> 01:03:53.579
- You just don't have interest in it?
01:03:53.579 --> 01:03:55.832
Is it partly the COVID?
01:03:55.832 --> 01:03:57.208
- No, no.
01:03:57.208 --> 01:03:58.918
- You're fine with COVID, okay.
01:04:04.674 --> 01:04:06.592
I heard you were dizzy today.
01:04:06.592 --> 01:04:08.678
- [Bonnie] I've been dizzy
for about a week now.
01:04:08.678 --> 01:04:10.096
- Whoa, what's going on?
01:04:10.096 --> 01:04:14.559
- I don't know, I'm just tired,
my legs hurt when I walk.
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:16.394
I just get so dizzy.
01:04:16.394 --> 01:04:18.771
Yesterday at Walmart I
had to call my husband,
01:04:18.771 --> 01:04:20.857
tell 'em come get me.
01:04:20.857 --> 01:04:23.776
- But, yeah, if you're
having symptoms with this
01:04:23.776 --> 01:04:25.486
we're gonna have to get you to someplace
01:04:25.486 --> 01:04:27.572
where they can check you out better.
01:04:27.572 --> 01:04:29.490
Do you wanna go to Albany or Dothan?
01:04:30.449 --> 01:04:31.951
- I mean, what am I gonna do?
01:04:31.951 --> 01:04:32.785
I mean-
01:04:32.785 --> 01:04:33.744
- Well, go to the ER.
01:04:33.744 --> 01:04:35.037
- Oh.
01:04:35.037 --> 01:04:37.582
- We can't have you feel this miserable.
01:04:37.582 --> 01:04:38.708
- Nuh-uh.
01:04:38.708 --> 01:04:40.418
- [Dr. Kinsell] Do you want
us to call the ambulance,
01:04:40.418 --> 01:04:42.169
or you're gonna go home
and get your husband?
01:04:42.169 --> 01:04:43.796
- I'll go home and get my husband.
01:04:43.796 --> 01:04:45.548
- [Dr. Kinsell] Okay.
01:04:49.468 --> 01:04:51.929
Do you feel strong enough
to drive back up there?
01:04:52.805 --> 01:04:55.182
- Yeah, I can do it.
01:04:55.182 --> 01:04:57.351
Oh, that's a lot medicine.
01:04:57.351 --> 01:04:58.519
- Yeah, it is.
01:05:03.357 --> 01:05:05.943
(gentle music)
01:05:41.646 --> 01:05:45.066
(gentle music continues)
01:06:34.115 --> 01:06:37.368
So that's at 2.6 degrees, which is,
01:06:37.368 --> 01:06:39.495
it has to be under five.
01:06:39.495 --> 01:06:42.540
Well we thought the office
freezer would be functional
01:06:42.540 --> 01:06:44.125
by the time it came,
01:06:44.125 --> 01:06:45.376
and it was not,
01:06:45.376 --> 01:06:47.086
so we had to bring it to my home freezer,
01:06:47.086 --> 01:06:48.879
which is maintaining temperature.
01:06:50.006 --> 01:06:51.882
So I have 30 people scheduled,
01:06:51.882 --> 01:06:54.760
so I'm gonna go ahead
and remove three vials.
01:07:04.603 --> 01:07:05.896
So you're gonna take those in your car?
01:07:05.896 --> 01:07:06.731
- Yeah, I'll take 'em in my car.
01:07:06.731 --> 01:07:07.565
- Okay.
01:07:15.406 --> 01:07:20.411
- Thermometer here is 37, which is good.
01:07:26.459 --> 01:07:28.044
Okay.
01:07:28.044 --> 01:07:32.173
This was the list of
patients from our computer
01:07:32.173 --> 01:07:34.717
who were 75 or over.
01:07:34.717 --> 01:07:38.429
I contacted everyone who I knew
01:07:38.429 --> 01:07:41.057
was not in a nursing home,
01:07:41.057 --> 01:07:44.310
or that I know had passed.
01:07:44.310 --> 01:07:45.978
And, Robert, what we didn't do yesterday
01:07:45.978 --> 01:07:47.897
is temperatures at the door.
01:07:48.981 --> 01:07:50.066
- All right.
01:07:50.066 --> 01:07:51.650
- Okay, that's the on button
towards the bottom there.
01:07:51.650 --> 01:07:52.610
- Okay.
01:07:52.610 --> 01:07:53.694
- [Dr. Kinsell] Good morning.
01:07:53.694 --> 01:07:56.572
- Good morning, good
morning, come in the house.
01:07:56.572 --> 01:07:57.698
I need to take your temperature.
01:07:57.698 --> 01:07:58.532
- Okay.
01:08:01.535 --> 01:08:02.912
- And y'all are, bless your hearts,
01:08:02.912 --> 01:08:03.871
the first group today,
01:08:03.871 --> 01:08:06.207
so you're gonna get the
brand new fresh vaccine
01:08:06.207 --> 01:08:08.793
that's just had a chance to warm up.
01:08:08.793 --> 01:08:11.295
- Gonna let you have a seat over here.
01:08:12.129 --> 01:08:16.300
Clay County's been hit
badly this past week or two,
01:08:16.300 --> 01:08:18.427
city hall is closed,
01:08:18.427 --> 01:08:20.971
there's been an outbreak
at the post office,
01:08:20.971 --> 01:08:23.015
so we decided it,
01:08:23.015 --> 01:08:25.309
we just need to go ahead and get this out.
01:08:25.309 --> 01:08:27.478
We weren't expecting to get it so soon,
01:08:27.478 --> 01:08:31.941
but it just arrived by
FedEx Wednesday afternoon,
01:08:31.941 --> 01:08:34.985
so that's why y'all got called.
01:08:34.985 --> 01:08:38.447
This is Dr. Frank Isle,
he's a retired pathologist
01:08:38.447 --> 01:08:39.824
that lives out on the lake,
01:08:39.824 --> 01:08:44.120
so he gave me my shot
yesterday that still hurts.
01:08:44.120 --> 01:08:46.163
(everyone laughing)
01:08:46.163 --> 01:08:48.958
I'm not saying it's your fault but...
01:08:48.958 --> 01:08:51.335
- Well she gave me my
shot and it still hurts.
01:08:51.335 --> 01:08:52.962
(everyone laughing)
01:08:52.962 --> 01:08:54.880
- Is there somebody else
that can give the shot?
01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:57.883
(everyone laughing)
01:08:59.510 --> 01:09:04.056
- The state has kind of a priority list.
01:09:04.056 --> 01:09:07.184
We're getting very little
direction from the state
01:09:07.184 --> 01:09:09.687
about how that's supposed to happen.
01:09:09.687 --> 01:09:12.273
They've done no planning
that we can perceive
01:09:12.273 --> 01:09:13.440
about this whole thing.
01:09:14.900 --> 01:09:15.943
You okay?
01:09:15.943 --> 01:09:16.777
- I'm good.
01:09:16.777 --> 01:09:17.611
- Good.
01:09:25.578 --> 01:09:26.412
Hello.
01:09:28.372 --> 01:09:30.583
Do you want me to bring
your shot over here
01:09:30.583 --> 01:09:32.543
so you don't have to walk over?
01:09:32.543 --> 01:09:33.377
- I got it yet?
01:09:34.253 --> 01:09:35.254
- Yeah, you did.
01:09:46.223 --> 01:09:47.725
- Here for the COVID vaccine?
01:09:47.725 --> 01:09:49.935
Come in, come in.
01:09:49.935 --> 01:09:51.437
Hi, hi.
01:09:51.437 --> 01:09:52.438
- Who's next?
01:09:53.522 --> 01:09:56.192
- Quite seriously, I would
love to help if I can.
01:09:56.192 --> 01:09:57.610
I can sure do phone calls,
01:09:57.610 --> 01:10:00.404
and handle any paperwork
if you need any help.
01:10:00.404 --> 01:10:01.363
- Thank you.
01:10:01.363 --> 01:10:02.865
Okay, you're good.
01:10:05.242 --> 01:10:08.579
- Well you're welcome, it's a privilege.
01:10:23.928 --> 01:10:24.762
- Yeah, that's what I like,
01:10:24.762 --> 01:10:26.889
stray old men hollering at me.
01:10:26.889 --> 01:10:29.892
(everyone laughing)
01:10:32.478 --> 01:10:35.147
If I sneeze I’ll have to pick my drawers back up.
01:10:35.731 --> 01:10:38.734
(everyone laughing)
01:10:41.904 --> 01:10:44.865
- Now let your arm down, let it relax.
01:10:44.865 --> 01:10:47.284
- I can't let it relax you
got a needle in your hand.
01:10:47.284 --> 01:10:48.994
- I don't have it in your arm yet.
01:10:51.455 --> 01:10:52.915
Okay.
01:10:52.915 --> 01:10:53.749
- Mm-hmm.
01:10:55.668 --> 01:10:57.378
- Let me get a bandaid on you.
01:11:00.547 --> 01:11:02.758
- First I decided I wasn't gonna take it,
01:11:02.758 --> 01:11:04.885
'cause I don't wanna be a guinea pig.
01:11:04.885 --> 01:11:06.720
Me and my brother, we talked the last two
01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:07.554
or three weeks,
01:11:07.554 --> 01:11:08.764
and I told my brother last week,
01:11:08.764 --> 01:11:10.641
I said "As soon as I get a chance,
01:11:10.641 --> 01:11:12.559
"I'm gonna go ahead and get it."
01:11:12.559 --> 01:11:14.144
My family's up in Kentucky,
01:11:14.144 --> 01:11:18.816
I lost my oldest daughter a
couple weeks ago to COVID-19,
01:11:21.777 --> 01:11:24.655
and I didn't go up to
the funeral or nothing.
01:11:24.655 --> 01:11:26.699
- [Cameraman] Well, did
losing your daughter
01:11:26.699 --> 01:11:29.159
make you change your mind
about the, did that impact it?
01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:31.203
- No, that ain't have
nothing to do with it.
01:11:31.203 --> 01:11:32.037
Nuh-uh.
01:11:32.037 --> 01:11:33.163
If they wanna go ahead
01:11:33.163 --> 01:11:34.123
and use me for guinea pig,
01:11:34.123 --> 01:11:36.542
if that's what they wanna do at my age,
01:11:36.542 --> 01:11:37.876
I'd rather them use me at my age
01:11:37.876 --> 01:11:40.462
than to use some young person.
01:11:46.635 --> 01:11:49.013
No, see, this isn't blood
pressure, it's a shot,
01:11:49.013 --> 01:11:51.974
so pull your arm out
of the sleeve, I think.
01:11:51.974 --> 01:11:52.808
- Oh, yeah, okay.
01:11:52.808 --> 01:11:54.435
- [Dr. Kinsell] Go ahead and do that.
01:11:56.603 --> 01:11:58.897
Thank you, Lord.
01:11:58.897 --> 01:12:00.482
Thank you, Jesus.
01:12:01.400 --> 01:12:04.320
In Jesus' name, let this work.
01:12:04.320 --> 01:12:05.154
- [Dr. Kinsell] Yes.
01:12:05.154 --> 01:12:06.822
- In Jesus' name I pray to you.
01:12:07.906 --> 01:12:08.741
Oh, Jehovah.
01:12:09.783 --> 01:12:10.576
Amen.
01:12:23.547 --> 01:12:25.382
Hey, this is Dr. Kinsell.
01:12:27.885 --> 01:12:31.263
We have the coronavirus vaccine in now,
01:12:32.556 --> 01:12:37.561
do you think Erline would
be interested in taking it?
01:12:37.895 --> 01:12:39.730
It should work, yeah.
01:12:40.564 --> 01:12:42.107
Would you want me to stop by the house
01:12:42.107 --> 01:12:44.026
and give it to her?
01:12:45.402 --> 01:12:48.530
Okay, we'll be up in just about,
01:12:48.530 --> 01:12:50.032
the next half hour.
01:12:50.991 --> 01:12:51.992
Okay, bye, bye.
01:13:08.550 --> 01:13:11.553
Well don't you look nice.
01:13:11.553 --> 01:13:12.721
- [Erline] How you doing?
01:13:12.721 --> 01:13:14.223
- I am doing great.
01:13:14.223 --> 01:13:15.224
- [Erline] Merry Christmas.
01:13:15.224 --> 01:13:17.351
- Merry Christmas.
01:13:17.351 --> 01:13:19.103
How old are you?
01:13:19.103 --> 01:13:22.439
- 100 and three months.
01:13:24.983 --> 01:13:27.027
- [Dr. Kinsell] Are you sick today?
01:13:27.027 --> 01:13:31.573
- No, ma'am.
01:13:31.573 --> 01:13:33.534
- That was it.
01:13:33.534 --> 01:13:34.618
- That's it?
01:13:34.618 --> 01:13:35.619
- That's it.
01:13:36.787 --> 01:13:38.747
- You looking good.
01:13:41.166 --> 01:13:44.002
You look like you're in your 20's.
01:13:45.003 --> 01:13:46.505
Thank you, ma'am.
01:13:46.505 --> 01:13:47.589
- It didn't hurt?
01:13:47.589 --> 01:13:49.258
- No, ma'am it didn't hurt.
01:13:49.258 --> 01:13:52.261
And I thank you.
01:13:52.261 --> 01:13:54.346
- Okay, it was fun.
01:13:55.889 --> 01:13:58.809
- She's got a good appetite.
01:13:58.809 --> 01:14:01.395
(gentle music)
01:14:17.870 --> 01:14:19.121
- I mean if people need to be seen,
01:14:19.121 --> 01:14:21.623
they need to be seen.
01:14:21.623 --> 01:14:24.168
We can make time anytime.
01:14:24.168 --> 01:14:26.962
(gentle music)
01:14:26.962 --> 01:14:29.840
That one's pretty crunchy.
01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:31.842
I saw him...
01:14:35.596 --> 01:14:36.889
You want some more water?
01:14:37.931 --> 01:14:39.808
- Want some more water?
01:14:39.808 --> 01:14:43.228
(gentle music continues)
01:15:15.469 --> 01:15:17.554
Although I should put the pearls on here.
01:15:18.597 --> 01:15:19.765
- Yeah, let me take the pearls out
01:15:19.765 --> 01:15:20.933
so you can put them on.
01:15:23.268 --> 01:15:25.145
- I got pearls for Christmas.
01:15:25.145 --> 01:15:27.022
- They look pretty decent.
01:15:27.022 --> 01:15:29.191
Well we decided to get married
01:15:29.191 --> 01:15:34.196
because we see death and
illness all around us, partly.
01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:38.659
Robert actually had some
reaction to the vaccine,
01:15:38.659 --> 01:15:42.412
and you think something
could happen, shit,
01:15:42.412 --> 01:15:45.040
and we decided it was time
to get on with our lives.
01:15:46.166 --> 01:15:48.585
- Well and honestly
that's been my big issue
01:15:48.585 --> 01:15:51.922
about marriage in the first
place is something could happen,
01:15:51.922 --> 01:15:53.840
and I don't want to have to argue
01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:55.008
with hospital personnel about
01:15:55.008 --> 01:15:56.426
do I get to see my beloved.
01:15:57.386 --> 01:15:58.428
We both had the commitment,
01:15:58.428 --> 01:15:59.471
we've got a commitment
01:15:59.471 --> 01:16:01.890
to a long-term monogamous relationship,
01:16:01.890 --> 01:16:02.975
and that's what it is.
01:16:02.975 --> 01:16:04.309
- So your ring is here.
01:16:04.309 --> 01:16:05.394
- [Robert] My ring is there.
01:16:05.394 --> 01:16:07.563
- And this is the-
01:16:07.563 --> 01:16:09.022
- That's the green lantern ring,
01:16:09.022 --> 01:16:09.856
in case we should want to get married
01:16:09.856 --> 01:16:11.316
with the green lantern ring, yes.
01:16:12.568 --> 01:16:13.944
- Yeah, we didn't buy anything.
01:16:13.944 --> 01:16:15.070
- We didn't buy rings.
01:16:16.405 --> 01:16:17.406
- My...
01:16:17.406 --> 01:16:20.242
- After my paternal grandmother died
01:16:20.242 --> 01:16:24.663
when I was in college,
her engagement ring,
01:16:24.663 --> 01:16:28.625
I had it reset to this,
01:16:28.625 --> 01:16:30.544
and I've really never worn it.
01:16:30.544 --> 01:16:33.255
And Robert has his great-
01:16:33.255 --> 01:16:35.007
- Great-grandfather's ring.
01:16:35.007 --> 01:16:39.052
We think it's, the family says
the providence is European.
01:16:40.095 --> 01:16:43.181
You wanna put that ring
in here or keep it on?
01:16:43.181 --> 01:16:45.183
- Well, I need to have it on me somehow.
01:16:45.183 --> 01:16:47.603
- That's fine, I just
wanna make sure I know.
01:16:47.603 --> 01:16:48.812
- Yeah, I'll keep it.
01:16:48.812 --> 01:16:49.771
- Okay.
01:16:52.941 --> 01:16:54.318
You got it,
01:16:54.318 --> 01:16:55.944
and we have another ring for emergencies.
01:16:55.944 --> 01:16:57.613
That's why we have emergency rings.
01:16:57.613 --> 01:16:58.572
- Okay.
01:16:58.572 --> 01:16:59.406
- Yes.
01:16:59.406 --> 01:17:00.240
- Okay.
01:17:30.562 --> 01:17:32.689
- [Woman] And I think we're live.
01:17:32.689 --> 01:17:33.815
- We're live.
01:17:33.815 --> 01:17:35.859
- And here comes the bride.
01:17:36.902 --> 01:17:38.362
Very nice.
01:17:38.362 --> 01:17:40.405
- You're wearing pearls, how Republican.
01:17:41.448 --> 01:17:43.241
- They're not, it's like the flag.
01:17:43.241 --> 01:17:45.369
It's not a Republican symbol,
01:17:45.369 --> 01:17:47.120
it's a Republican, it's a symbol of-
01:17:47.120 --> 01:17:48.955
- I'm just messing with you.
01:17:48.955 --> 01:17:50.415
- [Dr. Kinsell] Oh my gosh.
01:17:50.415 --> 01:17:51.792
- [Woman] Oh, they're pretty.
01:17:51.792 --> 01:17:53.126
- [Dr. Kinsell] Oh my gosh.
01:17:54.086 --> 01:17:56.880
Look at your how pretty.
01:17:56.880 --> 01:17:57.714
Oh, how pretty.
01:17:57.714 --> 01:17:58.882
Oh my gosh.
01:17:58.882 --> 01:18:00.092
- [Woman] They did a good job.
01:18:00.092 --> 01:18:01.843
Where'd y'all order 'em from?
01:18:01.843 --> 01:18:03.762
- Tisa's in Eufaula.
01:18:03.762 --> 01:18:06.807
Karen, let me please
borrow you for a minute.
01:18:08.517 --> 01:18:09.851
Hope you can get it off.
01:18:09.851 --> 01:18:12.938
It's gonna be awkward if I have to...
01:18:15.065 --> 01:18:17.025
- [Robert] There it goes.
01:18:17.025 --> 01:18:18.110
- Okay, good.
01:18:18.110 --> 01:18:19.152
Maybe that's not the right place.
01:18:19.152 --> 01:18:20.779
- Maybe that's not the right.
01:18:20.779 --> 01:18:23.365
(upbeat music)
01:18:29.413 --> 01:18:31.998
- The lighting from the windows.
01:18:31.998 --> 01:18:32.916
One, two, three.
01:18:32.916 --> 01:18:35.502
(gentle music)
01:18:36.795 --> 01:18:37.796
- Beautiful.
01:18:37.796 --> 01:18:38.672
- Thank you.
01:18:38.672 --> 01:18:39.923
- All right, one more.
01:18:39.923 --> 01:18:42.050
- Thank you.
01:18:42.050 --> 01:18:43.093
- I know you're tired.
01:18:43.093 --> 01:18:43.927
- Yeah.
01:18:43.927 --> 01:18:46.513
(gentle music)
01:18:46.722 --> 01:18:48.849
- Walk slowly.
01:18:48.849 --> 01:18:51.435
(gentle music)
01:19:08.243 --> 01:19:09.077
- [Robert] I Robert.
01:19:09.077 --> 01:19:10.370
- [Officiant] Take you, Karen.
01:19:10.370 --> 01:19:11.663
- [Robert] Take you, Karen.
01:19:11.663 --> 01:19:14.124
- [Officiant] To be my spouse
and partner in marriage.
01:19:14.124 --> 01:19:16.877
- [Robert] To be my spouse
and partner in marriage.
01:19:16.877 --> 01:19:17.711
- I Karen.
01:19:17.711 --> 01:19:18.754
- [Officiant] Take you, Robert.
01:19:18.754 --> 01:19:19.921
- Take you, Robert.
01:19:19.921 --> 01:19:21.923
- [Officiant] To be my spouse
and partner in marriage.
01:19:21.923 --> 01:19:25.218
- To be my spouse and partner in marriage.
01:19:25.218 --> 01:19:26.678
- [Officiant] To have and to hold.
01:19:26.678 --> 01:19:28.430
- To have and to hold.
01:19:28.430 --> 01:19:29.264
- [Officiant] From this day forward.
01:19:29.264 --> 01:19:30.932
- From this day forward.
01:19:30.932 --> 01:19:33.101
- [Officiant] To love and to cherish.
01:19:33.101 --> 01:19:34.686
- To love and to cherish.
01:19:34.686 --> 01:19:36.772
- [Officiant] Until we
are parted by death.
01:19:36.772 --> 01:19:39.441
- Until we are parted by death.
01:19:39.441 --> 01:19:40.901
- [Officiant] This is my solemn vow.
01:19:40.901 --> 01:19:42.569
- This is my solemn vow.
01:19:42.569 --> 01:19:44.821
- [Officiant] You may kiss.
01:19:46.031 --> 01:19:50.577
(Star Wars Theme Song)
01:20:00.337 --> 01:20:03.340
(guests applauding)
01:20:08.553 --> 01:20:10.263
- I'm gonna take my mask off.
01:20:10.263 --> 01:20:12.599
- Yeah, take your masks off.
01:20:18.021 --> 01:20:21.691
- To boldly go where
no one has gone before.
01:20:22.484 --> 01:20:25.070
(Star Trek Theme Song)
01:21:16.830 --> 01:21:18.957
- [Dr. Kinsell] I really
feel more energized
01:21:18.957 --> 01:21:20.834
than I have in years.
01:21:29.009 --> 01:21:32.304
It is such a privilege
to know you're needed,
01:21:32.304 --> 01:21:34.764
and good in all these areas.
01:21:37.267 --> 01:21:39.144
It's almost like magic.
01:21:46.860 --> 01:21:48.612
I thought we were just gonna have to close
01:21:48.612 --> 01:21:49.613
when Mercer opened,
01:21:50.989 --> 01:21:53.158
and that's not been the case at all.
01:21:56.077 --> 01:21:57.704
We've been able to keep the office open,
01:21:57.704 --> 01:22:00.540
and actually the clinic
is now paying me some.
01:22:00.540 --> 01:22:02.918
I found some princess stuff for you,
01:22:02.918 --> 01:22:05.086
do you like princesses?
01:22:05.086 --> 01:22:06.004
You do?
01:22:06.004 --> 01:22:09.174
Okay, well there's' a
coloring book and some colors.
01:22:09.174 --> 01:22:10.842
How's your breathing doing?
01:22:10.842 --> 01:22:11.676
- My breathing's fine,
01:22:11.676 --> 01:22:12.802
but my side-
01:22:12.802 --> 01:22:14.304
- [Dr. Kinsell] We will
continue to see people
01:22:14.304 --> 01:22:16.431
regardless of their ability to pay,
01:22:16.431 --> 01:22:19.517
but the reality is that
is the reality here,
01:22:19.517 --> 01:22:22.312
people cannot afford
to pay for healthcare.
01:22:26.691 --> 01:22:29.486
If I leave town or drop dead
01:22:29.486 --> 01:22:31.279
or whatever there isn't anything,
01:22:33.365 --> 01:22:34.991
people won't get healthcare.
01:22:38.662 --> 01:22:40.538
So I really worry after me.
01:22:47.879 --> 01:22:51.800
Again, what do you do
with the poor people?
01:23:02.894 --> 01:23:07.774
(gentle music)
01:23:18.243 --> 01:23:20.829
(gentle music)
01:23:33.258 --> 01:23:36.636
(gentle music continues)