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[sil.]

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[music]

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As most of you know, Local 1006 is
on strike at Local Office number 70.

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The membership of that office voted to
walk out after their union stewards

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and key union activists were either fired to transfer
for protesting the work on Saturday and Sunday

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or else rule. As they should have our
members viewed management’s actions

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as a bold and callous attempt to bust
the union in Local Office number 70.

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But the union at Local Office 70
is standing up well under attack,

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as the members have the unity and
determination necessary for ultimate victory.

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[sil.]

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Chuck, do you think you can
uh… tell us a… a little about

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how this walkout came about? Yeah.
I’ll… I’ll give you a little history.

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In April, after we were unable
to pull off a successful strike,

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workers here began organizing a strong
union. We… we developed a newsletter.

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We developed a grievance committee. Uh… then about two
months, three months, our office manager was replaced

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due to incompetence. We were able to bring
this to the attention of… of the agency.

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We were also 90% of the office,
we’re union members at that point.

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Umm… the issues of cancelling of overtime
and mandate, cancelling of all leaves

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and mandatory and unpaid
overtime, Saturdays and Sundays

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became a key problem in this office.
Uh… we met with the press Saturday

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with our, with our Union President to explain
about state harassment and state incompetence.

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You met with the press, it means like, uh… you didn’t
go in then towards work on, Chuck? We didn’t work.

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No, we did not work in protest of this
which is in accordance with union policy,

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also many other local offices throughout the… throughout
city and throughout the state did not go out.

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We did not work that day. However the
following Monday, we were singled out

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to be harassed. One person… Three people
were fired. One person was suspended

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and four people were transferred,
all of us union activists.

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We… we met with our… our field director Houston
Stevens and a subsequent walkout occurred,

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13 other people were allegedly fired.
They haven’t received no notices to date.

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Those people on the picket line here? Those people formed
a picket line that same day to protest union harassments.

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We’re striking at this
point for the whole union.

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Union harassment or…? For union harassment, for an
attempt that union busting within this local office.

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We’re striking for all the workers
here, we need their support,

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it’s the only way we can win.
What are some of the demands

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uh… in terms of uh… your walkout?
What is it that you’re trying to…?

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By walk out, we want people to go back status
quo that’s all. We wanna people taken back.

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We wanna an end to mandatory overtime. And we
want more staffing, an end to union harassment.

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Only six or seven people of our entire
base staff are working in that office now.

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With the support from other people and other offices,
we can win this strike. If we win, the union wins.

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We become a strong union, a strong collective
bargaining agent that the state has to deal with.

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Hi, umm… what’s your name?
My name is Pat Salgado.

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Okay, and you’ve been working at Local 70?
Yeah. For about how long now?

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Uh… Six months, including the temporary
time and the other intermittent time.

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Oh, you’re a temporary. What was it like uh… working
there for a while? Well, I was hired temporary

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working for 622 a month. I
worked from January 27th

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to March the 1st, I was made intermittent before
my temporary time was up and I was put down to

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597 a month. Uh… all the
time that I was working

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I was constantly being switched from job to
job, being used for interpreter, for filing,

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for typing, for using the switchboard,
for anything they could use me for.

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Uh… you never knew who your boss was. They
had so many bosses telling you what to do.

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It’s just about how everybody was treated. So, you
have problems in terms of working conditions?

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Uh… there’s many problems in terms
of working conditions. They want us

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to… to give them overtime every night that we
can. They want us to work Saturday and Sunday.

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They… they just don’t give us any free time at
all. How much you make? Now I’m making 383 an hour

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that’s about 597 a month. And
when you were temporary?

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Temporary was 622 a month. So you’re making more
as a temporary? Right. Are there any benefits

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at least being…? Uh… Temporary there are no benefits,
for hospitalization, medical vacation anything.

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What about intermittent? Intermittent, they have a
six-month probationary time which I’m still on.

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Uh… if I’ve not been fired, I don’t
know if I’ve been fired yet.

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I haven’t received any word that I’ve been
fired by mail or by mouth, so I don’t know.

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Just by what was said on TV… Just by what Billy Page
said on television. What about… How did you get into the

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uh… the… the walkout? How
did you… Well, Monday,

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uh… after we didn’t work Saturday and Sunday, they fired so many people
and they transferred so many people, which we didn’t feel was right.

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They had always helped us when we were all
working together, so we came out on strike.

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I see. Okay. Because we didn’t want to work Saturdays
and Sundays without receiving overtime pay.

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We haven’t received overtime pay since February.
So naturally we don’t want to work for it.

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Since we’re not getting paid and since
we have families, we just can’t.

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How’s it been living, you know,
not having that paycheck?

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Well, we’re… we’re supposed to be
getting paid any, any day now for,

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this would be the last paycheck that we’re getting so
far. But people are running out of money definitely.

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And it’s not an easier than the
people on compensation but,

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you know, we’re out for a cause and we’re gonna
fight till we get it. And then we’ll go back in

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if we ever get it. But you’re gonna stay out
till you… We’re gonna all stay out until we get

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all the benefits that we want, and all of our
demands are met. Okay, thanks a lot. Okay.

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Josephine, how long have you been out on
the line there? I’ve been on the line

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since last week Monday. Umm…
I… I went out about 12 o’clock

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with our other workers, so there was
18 of us. You were still working when…

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Up to 12, I was working, yes. And
uh… we had, we had a meeting,

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a union member meeting and other people that
weren’t in the Union because they felt that

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the demands that were
met, where Friday evening

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they were, they were given to us that we have
to umm… work mandatory Saturday and Sunday

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until further notice, overtime uh… or else
we will be fired or terminated our jobs

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when we come in on Monday. So you were
still like working on Monday morning.

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Why did you decide to go out with some of the
other workers? Uh… I decide… I decided to go out

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because while the conditions,
when we walked in were

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really, were really were uh…
we’re really, you know,

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scary like, as far as they… they
gave fiery notices to people

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and they… and they told a lot of people they were transferred.
They were given letters, to send them out to Maywood

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and… and a south side where their
transportations is… is bad to get there.

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And uh… these people were union activists.

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As far as they were acting
in the union, and union part

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and telling us what to do, as far as, you
know, our conditions in the local say listen,

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you know, these are our conditions
and they’re bad. You know,

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and let’s do something about it. Let’s get
together and be solid. What are you doing now?

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Making lunch for the picketers.
We’ve been feeding everybody,

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a morning coffee break with coffee and
something to eat, then a luncheon at noon,

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and uh… sugar, or a fruit,
or some sort of sweet snack

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in mid-afternoon plus cold drinks. And
I’m in charge of catering the strike.

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You’re catering the strike. Catering the strike.
Uh… Let me get over here so that Michael,

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you’ll be looking at the camera, people can see
you. Umm… why did you decide to go out on strike?

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How long, well, how long have you been working there?
I’ve been working at the agency for 3 1/2 years

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or it would be 3 1/2 July
1st, if I admitted that long.

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Yeah. Are you an intermittent or regular? I’m a regular
employee. I’m a deputy. And when we were decided that…

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When we were asked to work Saturday and Sunday, there was
no… I voted not to of course, but there was no chance

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I could anyway, I had prior commitments.
And so on Saturday, I did not come in.

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And on Monday, when I called
in, I was told that I was to

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report to personnel at 8:30 on Tuesday. And they
would tell me what they were going to do with me.

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And what did they do with you? Well, I don’t know what they were
going to do. But at 8:30 on Tuesday, instead of being at personnel,

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I was on the picket line. And
when I got to personnel at 9:30,

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I was told by personnel that they still hadn’t been told
what they were going to do to me. And finally at 12:30,

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they told me what they were gonna do to me will
suspend me for showing up late to personnel

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to find out what they were going to do
to me. Uh… So that’s why I’m out here.

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I am on 20 days suspension pending termination for
coming an hour late to an appointment at central office.

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Pending termination that means? Pending termination that means at
some time, it was explained to me, sometime during that 20 days,

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I will get a notice of discharge. Oh.
Yes, for an hour’s tardiness.

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It’s what it amounts too. Yeah, which is probably not the
reason? Oh, no, the real reason, I mean, I was picked out

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obviously for punishment because I’ve been active
in the Union, and our office has a newsletter,

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and I’ve been active, I’m working on the newsletter.
I wrote nasty things about the deputy convention

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where all the big shots wasted their time and
taxpayers money for two days in Kankakee.

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And I said as much and in the newsletter and
I think that’s what they picked me up for.

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What in your view of the
demands of the strike?

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You know, basically hire more staff. There were, and
everything follows right from that. They want us

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to work the kind of hours, you know,
that no human being should be asked to.

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They want us to work Saturdays, they want to work Sundays,
they want us to work overtime. Uh… some people haven’t gotten

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overtime pay since April. Deputies, of course, don’t even
get time and a half, they get straight time. Oh, yeah.

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And they haven’t seen it that’s since April
either. And people have other things to do.

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I have uh… friends I like to see,
I work in theater. I like to go,

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I… I like to have a little bit of life outside of work.
I don’t see that any amount of money is worth it.

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If you never have five minutes off to spend
it or do anything or live your own life.

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So you want a little bit more human
conditions? Absolutely, absolutely,

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I think, they should hire more staff,
especially claimants. Now last week…

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You said, especially claimants? I think, they should hire two claimants.
Surely half of the people, they’re out on strike were hired as claimants

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from the Line of 60-day employees.
And then they were put

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uh… then they, they’ve aged with the civil service
test report were put on us as probationary employees.

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And there’s no reason why they can’t do that
now or hire people immediately as regular

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uh… intermit uh… probationary employees.

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They hired in order to break the strike. They
hired 17, 60-day employees in one… one afternoon.

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And there’s no reason why they can’t do that
not to break a strike but to get the work done

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and to stop breaking the backs
of the people that are striking.

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Connie, I understand that you’ve got some
problems in terms of uh… strike breaking.

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And uh… can you talk about that a little? Well, I
don’t think this particular problem exists anymore.

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But there wasn’t an… an
attempt to use racism

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as a means of disrupting our picket line and, you
know, causing perhaps violence in the strike.

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Uh… as I understand it,

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last week a number of the workers who are,
you know, still working in the office

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and not participating in the
strike attended a retirement party

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for a state employee. At
this party, it was discussed

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uh… well, the possibility that was discussed that, you
know, using blacks, hiring them on mass as a means of,

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you know, breaking the strike.
We heard about this,

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the reaction on the line general was just
to laugh about it because, you know,

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we are a multiracial office. And there’s a real
strong feeling of solidarity and togetherness

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and we just thought this was the most
ridiculous thing imaginable. Well, Thursday,

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the next day after this retirement party,
uh… while this was still being discussed,

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seven blacks suddenly appeared at the door.

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And we went up to talk to them as we talked to, you know, all people
to find out whether they’re claimants or if they’re coming in to work.

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And we found out, in fact they were
you know being sent in as workers.

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Apparently, they were 60-day wonders
or 60-day temporary employees

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who had been hired like, you know, the day before had
been given you know 1 1/2 days training at central office

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and sent to this office. Most of them were a little
bit suspicious about being sent here because they,

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for the most part lived on the south side, and
they couldn’t understand why most of the people

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in their particular class were being sent here. So we
talked to them, explained our goals for the strike,

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why we were out, asked their, you
know, support and solidarity,

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explain to them that according to the rules
of the agency itself, they don’t, you know,

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have to cross a picket line that if they refused to
cross our picket line which is sanctioned by the Union

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uh… that no reprisals can be taken
against them, they cannot be fired.

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And you know, we asked them, you know, if they did
support us to… to please, just call into the office

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and ask for transfer. Well, they did?
Well, they did.

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In fact, altogether there turned
out to be 17, 60-day wonders,

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10 of them actually joined the union.
And they all called in and said,

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you know, we weren’t told that there was a strike
situation here and we’d like to go somewhere else.

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So they reported back Downtown to the central office
and an attempt was made to fire these people.

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Our union people heard about it. Houston Stevens and some
others rushed down, \"Hey, you know, you can’t do this.

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It’s illegal to hire people specifically to
break a strike.\" And central office back down

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and all 17 were reassigned. So we don’t
anticipate that we’re gonna have

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any more problems of them, you know, trying to use that
issue, that particular issue to… to break our strike.

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It’s turn out to be more of a solidarity movement.
Right. We got some great publicity out of it.

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And many people who felt
before that, you know,

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they were afraid to take the chance of… of refusing
to cross our picket line for fear of being fired

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or now being turned around. So,
you know, striated, you know,

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strike breaking like that, we could use more off,
it helps our cause. Okay, thanks a lot. Sure.

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Can you tell me umm… that’s
you’re a claimant, right?

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Yes. How long have you been unemployed now?
Oh, about seven months.

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Have you had much problem getting
your trucks and stuff? Yes, I have.

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What kind of problems have you run into?
They were always late, or when I came down,

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or when I telephoned on the phone,
they would say, \"I will check on it.\"

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And they’ll let me know. Excuse me, I just
came out just now, just to get a little break

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because I was standing in line. These people up
there, I don’t blame these people over here.

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I blame… You people should have more help. No, I…
I understand I understand your point about it.

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You’re overworked. Uh… they want
you to work on Saturdays but I’m…

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I take your side of it because
uh… sure I’m a little angry,

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but I can’t express myself but I feel what
was good, what if… if you get better rights,

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I’ll get my money on time, right? Understand?
You are not in the strike, are you?

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No, I’m not in the strike, I’m out here
though. Well, what are you doing out here?

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Well, I was sent from uh… our office
over here to be like a mediator

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between the two and to see what
problems can be persuade now.

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Uh… what do you think you’d be able to do or
what do you think of this people out here?

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Well, I think nothing can
be done until (inaudible)

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and themselves sit down at the table and
meet their demands. That’s the only way,

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that’s (inaudible), everybody out
here seem to be for real to me.

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Do you think you could tell me umm… what’s happened
so far in the strike, has there been any results

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that have been good or…? Yeah, I mean, I think, they sent
some clear results. One of the things that sparked the strike

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was forced overtime Saturday and Sunday and
had threatened overtime on the 4th of July.

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No one worked this 4th of July. We
think it’s because we were out here,

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you know, on strike and so
they back down on that threat.

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What about uh… no other victories
besides that that you’ve won so far?

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Well, it looks like no one is gonna be forced to work
this weekend. Umm… we see those as clear victories

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and only a small example of what could happen
if the whole union can stick together.

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Do you think that’s part of the problem right now in terms
of the strike? Well, we think that the strategy management

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is partly to keep it confined
and isolated to this office,

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but other offices are facing problems, are just as
bad as ours and so if we can all stick together,

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we think, we can all win together.
Okay, thanks a lot. All right.

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Hey, can I talk you for a minute?

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Sure. I would like to know uh… you’ve
been out here since what time today?

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Since 7 o’clock this morning. You getting tired here?
Yes. But I have family at home that keeps me going.

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You do. Is that one of your family?
No, my daughter is sick today,

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otherwise she would have been out here with us. So you’re kind of tired but
you’re gonna stick with it? I’m gonna… I have… we have to keep on with it,

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otherwise we’ll lose. We have to go all the
way. And if the other local officers will come

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and support us whenever they can on their
own time, we really appreciate it.

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Okay. And let me get back to the line,
so to give my people support. Okay.

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Okay, thanks a lot. You’re welcome.

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All right, I’ll be back before then. Okay.

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Goodbye, folks. Goodbye, Lauren.