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( music playing )

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( loud explosion )

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( explosions continue )

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( approaching footsteps )

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So this is the spot
where we had some evidence

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that we might
have elevated levels
of radioactivity.

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And now we\'\'re just
gonna come up with some places

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to be able
to take some samples.

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- ( sniffs )
- ( wand beeping )

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As I get closer down
into this pit right here,

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it sort of buries
the needle.

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( beeping )

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And that sort of
has me interested.

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Wondering what
we might be seeing down here.

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Rebecca Cammisa:
Considering what you know
about the site,

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do you think North County

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can really be
cleaned up completely?

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I think that if you have
widespread radioactivity

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that\'\'s kind of been
moved around by floods

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and other types of, you know,
natural events...

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it could be
a pretty big problem.

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( kids chatter )

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-( bat clinks )
- Man:There you go,
there you go, got it!

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( crowd cheering )

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- Boy:Mama?
- What, honey?

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You wanna play
with the sticky note?

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Yeah.

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No, honey, I don\'\'t really
want you to do that
right now.

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Can you-- can you guys
go downstairs and play?

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Cammisa:
Why don\'\'t you
want them out?

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I-- there\'\'s
a weather pattern coming in,

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and I know that
it\'\'s gonna stink
either tonight or tomorrow

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and Ireallydon\'\'t want
them out there.

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Um, you know,
some of this you can smell,

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some of this you can\'\'t,
and... it\'\'s just,

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it\'\'s not something that
I\'\'m gonna take the chance on.

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Which is sad
\'\'cause it looks beautiful
out there.

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We just cut the grass.

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It would be
a great afternoon.

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Perfect temperature for kids
to go out, but, you know...

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it\'\'s one of the things
that we think about,
living here.

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We watch the weather.

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Not for rain,
not for severe weather,

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but to figure out
what\'\'s going to happen
with the landfill

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or try and predict
how it\'\'s going to be.

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It\'\'s a shame, isn\'\'t it?

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Beautiful neighborhood.

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Nice park for kids to play
when it isn\'\'t stinking.

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That\'\'s how it is down here.

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We\'\'re kind of hidden
back here behind this hill,

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but it doesn\'\'t stop
that stench one bit.

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( pumps hissing )

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Jenny Turner:
We didn\'\'t hear about
the radioactivity

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until the stink
of the landfill started.

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I guess if-- if it
wasn\'\'t for the smell,

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we-- no one would\'\'ve known
about the radioactivity.

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Lisa Rigg:
We\'\'re directly

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across the street
from the landfill.

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There\'\'s no
getting around it.

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We\'\'re less than
a thousand feet.

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- Two days ago
in the evening time,
- ( beeps )

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that\'\'s what
my smoke detector was doing

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and my carbon monoxide
was doing.

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Which notifies me
if I need to get inside

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and close the doors
even tighter

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and put towels up against
the bottom of my door.

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You see that lump?

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My dogs-- all of them--
have a lump.

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And then
these strawberry things--

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we don\'\'t even know
what they are.

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He has them all over.

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And they come up--
look, they just appear

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and they turn into these
really super bad sores.

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He\'\'s got all these
and they just make him
so miserable.

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He just tries
to do the best he can.

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Ken Aydelott:
Thanks for coming this morning
from neighboring department.

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We got this class
that\'\'s going to be
on monitoring nuclear events

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that\'\'s going to be given by
the, uh, 7th Civil
Support Team.

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It\'\'s a four-segment class
and they decided

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to go ahead and include
first responders

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because we\'\'re going to be
the ones going in

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when everybody else
is bailing out.

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I\'\'ll turn it over to the guys
now to start this class.

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All right, you\'\'re gonna see
a D-ring to the side.

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That D-ring, you turn it.

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It opens up
that battery well.

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Now, uranium
is in the ground,
is it not?

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It comes from
the Manhattan Project.

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That\'\'s right.

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The decay product
of uranium is radon.

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What\'\'s the problem
with radon?

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Man:
It causes cancer.

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- Say it again.
-It causes cancer.

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Causes cancer.
It\'\'s a beta emitter.

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And if it gets out,
how easy is it

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gonna be in Missouri
tocontainpeople...

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in St. Louis area?

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It\'\'s gonna be tough.

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Now, like those people
who walk around

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with all that stuff
on them,

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on their cars
and their goods?

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Take some
of that material elsewhere

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and spread that problem?

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That\'\'s where
it\'\'s gonna become tricky.

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First I got a fire
underneath the ground.

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Then I got
radioactive material

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underneath the groundthat may be breached
by this fire.

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Danger zone.
Time to get out.

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If you could perform a rescue
at that point, I would.

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Please don\'\'t leave me behind.
Don\'\'t leave your buddy behind.

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But it\'\'s not
a time to decide,
\"What do we do now?\"

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- Please back out.
- Matt LaVanchy:
That\'\'s the unfortunate thing

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is this all happened
in a metropolitan area.

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It does not
belong in a residential
slash commercial,

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municipal, populated
suburban area

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in the state
that it is in right now

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and has been
for the last 40 years.

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Let\'\'s fix it.
Let\'\'s not just leave it
sit out there.

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Schultz:It is this
encroaching underground
smoldering event

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reached where
the radioactivity is located.

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In the incineration
of materials,

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very small particles
can be released.

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And those particulate

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can be contaminated
with the radionuclides.

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Dr. R. William Field:
What\'\'s going to be
carried along with

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those smoke particles
are particles of thorium,

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particles of radium.

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You know, sometimes particles
can be carried five,
six miles away

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from the site
where it\'\'s burning.

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Chapman:
You know, I have
my escape route planned.

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I literally do.
I have my grab bag.

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I have it in the car.

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I have a little emergency kit
and we go that way.

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The landfill is that way.

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We go straight down
this street, we make a left,

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and we go straight.

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- Hello.
- Hello.

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- Hello, Meagan.
- Hi.

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- Man:We have our questions
set up for tonight.
-You guys wanna go

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through them all real quick
and see what we have so far?

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Ed Smith:
The EPA has always said

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that the isolation barrier

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is the contingency plan.

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And now that
the fire could be moving
into the north quarry,

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what is the EPA\'\'s plan B

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if the isolation barrier
isn\'\'t going to be able

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to be installed in time
to stop a smoldering fire once
it moves to the north quarry?

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Chapman:I think we should phrase it
like that.

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What is your contingency
for the contingency plan

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-that is the barrier?
- Yeah.

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- Right.
-You know?

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Do you remember
what the date was

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that the EPA called
for the barrier?

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It was last summer, right?

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So they had a year
to get all the testing

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and data that they needed
to figure out

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if they even
could or could not

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do this barrier
and they haven\'\'t.

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- They wasted a year.
- Let\'\'s write that one down.

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And million-dollar question is

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what happens when
the fire meets the waste?

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( overlapping chatter )

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What happens when
the waste meets the fire?

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I think-- I think we really
need to hammer that home.

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Chapman:
When I met Karen Nickel,

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she had already created
a Facebook page.

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And there were maybe about
100 or so people on it.

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I joined.
We hit the ground running.

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We created Just Moms
because we were told
if you\'\'re going to organize

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and you\'\'re going to host
public meetings,

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you have to call
yourselves something.

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And we\'\'re like,
\"We\'\'re just moms.

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Like, we\'\'re Just Moms STL.\"

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- St. Louis.
- ( boy mumbles )

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Yeah, in a minute.

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I gotta go.

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I\'\'d rather be home
with you guys.

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That\'\'s right.There\'\'ll be lots
of important stuff.

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That\'\'s why God made--

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Aw, that\'\'s really
actually sad.

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\"That\'\'s why God
made meetings.\"

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All right, dog, look out.

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Look out, look out.
Let him in, let him in.

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Come on, doggy!

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Okay, I gotta go.
I love you.

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- Oh, a bit chilly?
- Is that my dress?

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- Yeah.
- Man, I don\'\'t even
have time to try it on.

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Okay, well...

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( kids chattering )

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- He was invited
to his first birthday party.
- Oh, you\'\'re going, too?

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Look, it\'\'s right--
no, this is Quinn\'\'s.

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- Oh. Oh, okay! Oh.
- Quinn\'\'s invited
to his first birthday party.

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Okay, bye-bye.
I love you, too.

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- Bye, baby girl.
-( kids chattering )

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Bye, boy.
Bye, boy.

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Brian:
Okay. Well, I don\'\'t have
the movie tonight.

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- ( blinker clicking )
- ( music playing )

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Chapman:
God, I feel my anxiety rising.
I hate that.

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Literally, like, every time
I come to this stoplight

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if I\'\'m on my way
to one of these meetings,

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my anxiety level--
I can just feel it start
in my stomach.

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And I\'\'m like,
( scoffs ) I don\'\'t know.

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So much rides
on these meetings.

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It\'\'s like...

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do or die, literally.

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( chatter )

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Good evening, everybody.
I\'\'d like to call this meeting
to order, please.

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We at the Army Corps
of Engineers

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make a presentation
this evening

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about radioactive
safety levels.

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All right, I just wanna say
thank you, everybody,
for your time.

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We appreciate the chance
to come out here and talk
a little bit.

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So we have a lot of data
and a very good understanding

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of the health effects
from radiation

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at very high doses.

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What we don\'\'t really have
is any good data

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on low levels of exposure
and what the harmful effects
might be.

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This equation right here
is just sort of

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a simplified example of how
we calculate risk.

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When we actually input
these parameters,

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we tried to use
the conservative assumptions

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for, \"Well, how much
can a human being

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conceivably inhale
in a day?\"

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Chapman:
Can I just clarify?

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I just-- a small question.

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You said there are no--
what did you say?

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\"There\'\'s no good data
on low-level exposure\"?

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-Correct.
- So what are these
risk models based off of?

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Risk models are based on data

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from, like,
atomic weapons survivors.

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From industrial accidents
and things like that.

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Where are
the health studies anywhere

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that show that
if I build my home
on nuclear weapons waste,

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what happens to my kids
30 years later?

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I think you have
to understand

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in terms of West Lake
and what we\'\'re dealing with

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and the potential
of this fire hitting it
and letting it out,

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you guys could be wrong.

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Okay, I don\'\'t want
to interrupt you, Doug,

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but I\'\'m Mary Peterson

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with the Environmental
Protection Agency, you know.

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I\'\'ll take a stab at this
as best I can.

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Um, so what Joe
was talking about

00:14:57.228 --> 00:15:00.951 position:20%
was how we do
risk assessment, okay?

00:15:00.975 --> 00:15:03.698
It\'\'s not based
on statistics, okay?

00:15:03.722 --> 00:15:07.361 position:80%
It\'\'s not based
on actual cases of cancer.

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It\'\'s based on a probability

00:15:08.550 --> 00:15:12.897 position:20%
that people could have
anincreasedrisk
of getting cancer.

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Clemens:Okay, Mary, I want
to just pick up on this.

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There is a report about
the progress of the fire.

00:15:18.873 --> 00:15:21.347 position:20%
Now we have concern
that these particles

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can become airborne
if they\'\'re hit

00:15:23.952 --> 00:15:24.885
by the landfill fire.

00:15:24.909 --> 00:15:25.801 position:20%
At the rate the fire\'\'s

00:15:25.825 --> 00:15:27.715 position:20%
been progressing,
I understand that

00:15:27.739 --> 00:15:29.047 line:20%
these things
take time, but--

00:15:29.071 --> 00:15:32.169 position:20%
Uh, I don\'\'t
think there\'\'s been
conclusive evidence

00:15:32.193 --> 00:15:34.833
of the movement of the SSE.

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That\'\'s my understanding
is that

00:15:36.231 --> 00:15:37.872
there are
differing opinions on that.

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Smith:
We\'\'ve heard the EPA say
that it\'\'s planned

00:15:40.102 --> 00:15:42.992 position:80%
for the fires--
the isolation barrier--

00:15:43.016 --> 00:15:44.324
but the radioactive waste

00:15:44.348 --> 00:15:45.864
have not been
properly identified.

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The EPA currently
doesn\'\'t know where
they\'\'re all at.

00:15:49.218 --> 00:15:52.732 position:20%
So what is the contingency?

00:15:52.756 --> 00:15:54.064
Because you guys
are in charge

00:15:54.088 --> 00:15:55.021
of the radioactive waste

00:15:55.045 --> 00:15:56.270 position:80%
and you make it sound as if

00:15:56.294 --> 00:15:57.353
you\'\'re not gonna do anything

00:15:57.377 --> 00:15:59.100
until the fire
is at the doorstep,

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and that\'\'s not comforting
to a lot of folks here.

00:16:02.579 --> 00:16:04.762
( applause )

00:16:04.786 --> 00:16:07.468
We\'\'re not waiting
until it\'\'s at the doorstep.

00:16:07.492 --> 00:16:08.799
We\'\'re on a timeline, okay,

00:16:08.823 --> 00:16:13.462
to make adecision
regarding an isolation barrier

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within the next
couple months.

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And then the 14-18 months
is the timeframe

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for the design
to be completed.

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Chapman:
It just--
it would\'\'ve been nice

00:16:21.769 --> 00:16:24.242
if it was done
two years ago.

00:16:24.266 --> 00:16:25.699 position:80%
But it\'\'s extending
the length of this

00:16:25.723 --> 00:16:28.280
and it\'\'s excruciating
to this community.

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I guess with what
you know already,

00:16:30.052 --> 00:16:32.276
how many of you would be
willing to buy a house

00:16:32.300 --> 00:16:33.982
right near
this particular site?

00:16:34.006 --> 00:16:35.731 position:80%
I wouldn\'\'t have
any qualms with regard

00:16:35.755 --> 00:16:37.645
to radioactivity
contamination, no.

00:16:37.669 --> 00:16:40.975
And I actually have
quite a bit of family
in this area, so.

00:16:40.999 --> 00:16:44.347
Not right in Bridgeton,
but fairly close.
St. Charles.

00:16:44.371 --> 00:16:45.721
- Neighbors.
- Woman:Yeah, I mean,

00:16:45.745 --> 00:16:47.719
you can\'\'t tell me that
you would buy a house

00:16:47.743 --> 00:16:49.758
in the backyard
of this landfill.

00:16:49.782 --> 00:16:50.716
I don\'\'t believe it.

00:16:50.740 --> 00:16:52.630
I don\'\'t believe anybody here
would have the guts

00:16:52.654 --> 00:16:54.920
to admit
that they would want
to live here.

00:16:54.944 --> 00:16:56.169
Dailey:
Yeah, it would be nice

00:16:56.193 --> 00:16:57.084
if we could schedule

00:16:57.108 --> 00:16:58.250
when the stench is coming.

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Rather than abruptlybeing awaken in the middle
of the night

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\'\'cause you smell the crap
coming through your windows.

00:17:03.102 --> 00:17:05.118 line:20%
And you\'\'re thinking,
\"What the heck?
Am I dreaming?\"

00:17:05.142 --> 00:17:08.031 position:20%
- Yeah,
I\'\'m living a nightmare!
- I have something to say.

00:17:08.055 --> 00:17:10.863 line:20%
Man:
Ma\'\'am, you have a question
about the risk assessment?

00:17:10.887 --> 00:17:12.361 line:20%
I have something
to say, yes.

00:17:12.385 --> 00:17:15.940 line:20%
I was born and raised
in Spanish Village

00:17:15.964 --> 00:17:19.520
in 1971 to 1977.

00:17:19.544 --> 00:17:21.852
I buried
my 12-year-old daughter

00:17:21.876 --> 00:17:23.932
to a glioblastoma brain tumor.

00:17:23.956 --> 00:17:29.261 position:20%
I have three
other children at home sick,
and you want to live here?

00:17:29.285 --> 00:17:32.216
-You honestly want
to live here?
- ( audience murmurs )

00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:34.047
- Man:Ma\'\'am--
- Tell me, do you?

00:17:34.071 --> 00:17:39.292 position:20%
Because I can\'\'t physically
bury another child.

00:17:39.316 --> 00:17:41.623
Okay? I can\'\'t.

00:17:41.647 --> 00:17:45.744
- And you tell me
you want to live here?
-( chatters )

00:17:45.768 --> 00:17:47.617 line:20%
...and they will take
a public comment

00:17:47.641 --> 00:17:49.657 line:20%
and they will also
take questions.

00:17:49.681 --> 00:17:52.178
( music playing )

00:17:59.629 --> 00:18:02.418
( keyboard clacking )

00:18:42.337 --> 00:18:46.059 position:20% line:20%
9:18 here, Big 550 KTRS.

00:18:46.083 --> 00:18:47.807 line:20%
Joining us now
is Russ Knocke,

00:18:47.831 --> 00:18:50.928 line:20%
the Vice President
of CommunicationsNfor Republic Services.

00:18:50.952 --> 00:18:54.384 position:20% line:20%
Your company owns
the Bridgeton Landfill,

00:18:54.408 --> 00:18:55.799 position:20% line:20%
which has been in--
of the news.

00:18:55.823 --> 00:19:00.627 line:20%
You know, I just wanna leave
your audience with--
with this point.

00:19:00.651 --> 00:19:02.043 position:80% line:20%
Bridgeton Landfill is safe.

00:19:02.067 --> 00:19:03.583
It is in a managed state.

00:19:03.607 --> 00:19:05.539 line:20%
We\'\'re gonna continue
to manage that reaction

00:19:05.563 --> 00:19:07.246 line:20%
and eventually,
it will self-extinguish.

00:19:07.270 --> 00:19:09.785 line:20%
Milhaven:
It would-- so the fireNwill just burn out naturally?

00:19:09.809 --> 00:19:11.325 position:80% line:20%
Eventually, we believe
it will self-extinguish.

00:19:11.349 --> 00:19:13.698
- Before it gets
to the nuclear waste?
- Absolutely.

00:19:13.722 --> 00:19:15.571 position:20%
Russ Knocke,
Vice President
of Communications.

00:19:15.595 --> 00:19:17.860 position:20%
- Thank you for your time.
- Thanks for having me.

00:19:17.884 --> 00:19:20.049 line:20%
( music playing )

00:19:38.739 --> 00:19:41.586 line:20%
( sighs )

00:19:41.610 --> 00:19:45.125 position:20%
Really-- I had to--
I\'\'m really excited
to be here.

00:19:45.149 --> 00:19:47.664 position:20% line:20%
This is a good fight.

00:19:47.688 --> 00:19:49.745 line:20%
This is areallygood fight.

00:19:49.769 --> 00:19:51.535 line:20%
So one of the things
you said

00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:53.158 line:20%
is you didn\'\'t have
any training.

00:19:53.182 --> 00:19:54.282
Well, guess what?

00:19:54.306 --> 00:19:55.490
Today\'\'s your lucky day.

00:19:55.513 --> 00:19:57.778
And you have to take
all the beliefs you once had

00:19:57.802 --> 00:20:03.006 position:20%
about how change happens
and just throw them
out the window.

00:20:03.423 --> 00:20:04.730
So, Dawn, you want to start?

00:20:04.754 --> 00:20:08.934
Hi, my name\'\'s Dawn Chapman
and I\'\'m just a mom.
I have three kids.

00:20:08.958 --> 00:20:12.805
This is not a career choice.
This is not where I thought
I\'\'d be right now.

00:20:12.829 --> 00:20:16.094
In fact, I got
a little emotional,
\'\'cause I can\'\'t--

00:20:16.118 --> 00:20:17.800
It\'\'s not the fact
that Lois Gibbs is here,

00:20:17.824 --> 00:20:19.839 position:20%
I think it\'\'s the fact
that we need you.

00:20:19.863 --> 00:20:23.212
Sorry, I\'\'m crying.
We all take turns crying.

00:20:23.236 --> 00:20:27.873
People don\'\'t see that
we really are just moms
and we\'\'re scared.

00:20:27.897 --> 00:20:29.373
Gibbs:
Well, I call myself

00:20:29.397 --> 00:20:31.162
the accidental
environmentalist.

00:20:31.186 --> 00:20:32.161 position:20%
You know, it\'\'s a story

00:20:32.185 --> 00:20:34.617 position:20%
of literally thousands
and thousands

00:20:34.641 --> 00:20:36.115
and thousands--
mostly women--

00:20:36.139 --> 00:20:38.529 position:20%
across the country,
who never thought

00:20:38.553 --> 00:20:41.235 position:20%
they would be,
and then blah.

00:20:41.259 --> 00:20:45.381 line:20%
( music playing )

00:20:47.420 --> 00:20:48.479 line:20%
Just pass the word around.

00:20:48.502 --> 00:20:50.185 line:20%
Nobody-- we\'\'re not gonna do
anything violent.

00:20:50.209 --> 00:20:51.683 line:20%
We\'\'re just gonna keep them
in the house.

00:20:51.707 --> 00:20:54.056 line:20%
Nothing more than that.
Body barricade the doors.

00:20:54.080 --> 00:20:56.095
- Okay?
- Don\'\'t let them out.

00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:59.550 position:20%
- And don\'\'t let them out.
- Okay, pass the word.

00:20:59.574 --> 00:21:00.715
( chatter )

00:21:00.739 --> 00:21:02.006
- That\'\'s all?
- Nobody out.

00:21:02.030 --> 00:21:04.545
- Nobody\'\'s coming out.
- All right, guys! Sit!

00:21:04.569 --> 00:21:05.919
Male reporter:
This word just in.

00:21:05.943 --> 00:21:07.376
Two federal
environmental officials

00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:09.249
are being held hostage
at the Love Canal

00:21:09.273 --> 00:21:11.372
Homeowners Association\'\'s
headquarters.

00:21:11.396 --> 00:21:13.370
People there are stirred up
about an announcement

00:21:13.394 --> 00:21:14.826
that residents\'\'
chromosome damage

00:21:14.850 --> 00:21:17.074
may be linked
to toxic chemical exposure.

00:21:17.098 --> 00:21:22.693
If we do not have
a disaster declaration

00:21:22.717 --> 00:21:27.440
Wednesday by noon...
then what they have

00:21:27.464 --> 00:21:31.934
seen here today is just
a \"Sesame Street\" picnic

00:21:31.958 --> 00:21:35.223
- in comparison--
-( cheering )

00:21:35.247 --> 00:21:37.637
Male reporter:
Well, President Carter
will sign the pact

00:21:37.661 --> 00:21:40.427
committing $15 million
in federal funds

00:21:40.451 --> 00:21:42.798
to buy up the homes
of Love Canal residents.

00:21:42.822 --> 00:21:46.254
President Carter:
I want to recognize
the grassroots leader

00:21:46.278 --> 00:21:49.708
of the Love Canal Residence,
Lois Gibbs.

00:21:49.732 --> 00:21:51.623
Without her
impassioned advocacy,

00:21:51.647 --> 00:21:54.661
this agreement might never
have come to pass.

00:21:54.685 --> 00:21:57.576
There must never be

00:21:57.600 --> 00:22:00.490
in our country
another Love Canal.

00:22:00.513 --> 00:22:03.861
- ( applause )
- Thank you very much.

00:22:03.885 --> 00:22:05.550 line:20%
Man:
I will.

00:22:10.545 --> 00:22:13.666 position:20%
It is possible for you
to win what you want.

00:22:14.125 --> 00:22:15.100
But it\'\'s not possible

00:22:15.124 --> 00:22:16.391 line:20%
to win it all
at the same time.

00:22:16.415 --> 00:22:17.972 position:20%
It\'\'s a long-term,
short-term thing

00:22:17.996 --> 00:22:21.177
and you have
to be disciplined
about what you\'\'re doing.

00:22:21.201 --> 00:22:23.259 position:20%
And so in order
to set those goals,

00:22:23.283 --> 00:22:25.506 position:20%
you need to figure out
goals for what?

00:22:25.530 --> 00:22:28.545
And really put together
a plan of action.

00:22:28.569 --> 00:22:30.567
( music playing )

00:23:03.284 --> 00:23:05.300
Do you think Beavertail
still has that

00:23:05.324 --> 00:23:06.548 line:20%
little park there, Dad?

00:23:06.572 --> 00:23:08.670 line:20%
Ed Courtois:
Well, I\'\'m sure
the piece of ground is there.

00:23:08.694 --> 00:23:12.542 line:20%
Whether or not
it\'\'s been maintained,
I would have no idea.

00:23:12.566 --> 00:23:14.458 line:20%
But that\'\'s where you guys
used to cross the creek,

00:23:14.482 --> 00:23:17.497
was down there
off of Beavertail
all the time.

00:23:17.520 --> 00:23:18.684
Mm-hmm.

00:23:19.143 --> 00:23:20.243
Now here\'\'s our old house,

00:23:20.267 --> 00:23:21.242
right here on the left.

00:23:21.266 --> 00:23:23.365 line:20%
Oh, my gosh,
look at our bushes.

00:23:23.389 --> 00:23:24.323 position:20%
( chuckles )
Yeah.

00:23:24.347 --> 00:23:25.904 line:20%
Oh, my God,
our porch is falling apart.

00:23:25.928 --> 00:23:30.714
- They gotta--
- Our fence is falling down.

00:23:31.630 --> 00:23:33.812 position:20% line:20%
Remember when
we first moved in,

00:23:33.836 --> 00:23:35.145 position:20% line:20%
this was just
a natural creek.

00:23:35.169 --> 00:23:39.165 line:20%
- There was no concrete.
- Let\'\'s see.

00:23:39.872 --> 00:23:44.344 position:20%
- No sides, no fence, and it--
- No, we just climbed
right down to it.

00:23:44.368 --> 00:23:47.049 position:20%
When they did this,
the kids couldn\'\'t cross
the creek anymore.

00:23:47.073 --> 00:23:50.795
We used to be able
to just climb down
and climb over.

00:23:50.819 --> 00:23:52.486
( Courtois chuckles )

00:23:57.521 --> 00:24:00.744
You know, Sam and Anita,
they\'\'re both passed away
from cancer.

00:24:00.768 --> 00:24:02.825
They\'\'re on the corner
down there.

00:24:02.849 --> 00:24:04.074
The Clarks over here
on the left--

00:24:04.098 --> 00:24:06.988
three people in that family
died of cancer

00:24:07.012 --> 00:24:09.194 position:80%
including two children
when they lived there.

00:24:09.218 --> 00:24:13.023 position:20%
Wayne, across the street,
he has cancer.

00:24:13.047 --> 00:24:14.314 position:20%
I mean, just right here
in this street,

00:24:14.338 --> 00:24:19.000 position:20%
there is a lot of people
who have passed away
from cancer.

00:24:19.790 --> 00:24:21.848
Oh, my goodness.

00:24:21.872 --> 00:24:24.304
( panting )

00:24:24.328 --> 00:24:25.993 position:20%
You could still climb it.

00:24:26.700 --> 00:24:28.966
It\'\'s not as pretty
as I remember.

00:24:28.990 --> 00:24:31.089
- ( sighs )
- Courtois:
The concrete starts

00:24:31.113 --> 00:24:33.129
-right there, doesn\'\'t it?
- Yeah.

00:24:33.153 --> 00:24:36.624
Courtois:
Wow. So kids
could still crawl

00:24:36.648 --> 00:24:38.539
through this creek here.

00:24:38.563 --> 00:24:40.122
Seger:
Yeah.

00:24:40.146 --> 00:24:42.328
If I had a dollar
for every time

00:24:42.352 --> 00:24:43.951
I crossed that creek.

00:24:43.975 --> 00:24:47.055
- ( sighs )
- ( music playing )

00:24:59.085 --> 00:25:01.434 line:20%
Jenell Wright:
It was the spring of 2011.

00:25:01.458 --> 00:25:06.346 line:20%
I got on Facebook
in order to reconnect
with people from high school.

00:25:06.370 --> 00:25:09.134
And we all immediately
started noticing

00:25:09.158 --> 00:25:12.048
that so many of us
were sick.

00:25:12.072 --> 00:25:13.712 line:20%
As you look through
the yearbooks,

00:25:13.736 --> 00:25:15.212 line:20%
you can see there are
a lot of people

00:25:15.236 --> 00:25:16.336 line:20%
who are no longer with us

00:25:16.360 --> 00:25:20.231
who passed away
of very bizarre cancers.

00:25:21.520 --> 00:25:23.661 line:20%
\'\'Cause at first,
we thought maybe there was

00:25:23.685 --> 00:25:25.533 line:20%
a problem
with our high school.

00:25:25.557 --> 00:25:28.115 line:20%
Maybe our high school
has something in it

00:25:28.139 --> 00:25:31.551 line:20%
when they built it that
is causing health problems.

00:25:32.219 --> 00:25:35.441
But when
I started finding out that
my grade school friends,

00:25:35.465 --> 00:25:37.315
who went
to a different high school,

00:25:37.339 --> 00:25:44.248
were battling
the same diseases...
it became very eerie.

00:25:44.622 --> 00:25:45.722 position:20%
I realized, \"Wait a minute.

00:25:45.746 --> 00:25:48.262
This is not
some \'\'toxin\'\' or whatever

00:25:48.286 --> 00:25:49.386
in that high school.

00:25:49.410 --> 00:25:51.241
It\'\'s much bigger than that.\"

00:25:52.324 --> 00:25:53.465
Now in Coldwater Creek,

00:25:53.489 --> 00:25:55.130
meandered all through
our neighborhoods,

00:25:55.154 --> 00:25:58.709
it is the dividing line
between the school districts.

00:25:58.733 --> 00:26:01.023
( music playing )

00:26:08.848 --> 00:26:10.157 line:20%
Wright:
We\'\'ve discovered that

00:26:10.181 --> 00:26:11.863
the Department
of Veterans Affairs

00:26:11.887 --> 00:26:14.568
officially recognizes
around 21 cancers

00:26:14.592 --> 00:26:17.982
associated with exposure
to ionizing radiation

00:26:18.006 --> 00:26:21.561
and compared that list
to what we had.

00:26:21.585 --> 00:26:24.725
We had all of those cancers.
Every single one.

00:26:24.749 --> 00:26:25.890 line:20%
( music playing )

00:26:25.914 --> 00:26:30.885 line:20%
We then took
all that information
and made maps.

00:26:30.909 --> 00:26:34.174 line:20%
The first maps
were extremely alarming.

00:26:34.198 --> 00:26:37.213 line:20%
I started color-coding
different issues with people

00:26:37.237 --> 00:26:41.126 line:20%
so if I could see
is there any kind
of rhyme or reason

00:26:41.150 --> 00:26:43.539 line:20%
to the dots
and what is this?

00:26:43.563 --> 00:26:46.270 line:20%
What do we really have here?
What\'\'s happening?

00:26:58.881 --> 00:27:00.107
( dripping )

00:27:00.131 --> 00:27:02.937
Kristin Nolte:
It\'\'s healing up
so beautifully.

00:27:02.961 --> 00:27:08.913 position:20%
Those are all my major--
I guess-- scars, so.

00:27:09.413 --> 00:27:12.220 line:20%
Jonas\'\'s cancer
is in the soft tissue

00:27:12.244 --> 00:27:15.259 line:20%
behind his sinuses,
so it\'\'s inoperable.

00:27:15.283 --> 00:27:18.963
Ionized radiation is one
of the reasons for Ewing\'\'s.

00:27:18.987 --> 00:27:22.358 position:20%
So, I think that\'\'s, um...

00:27:22.899 --> 00:27:27.703
a big indicator
with what\'\'s going on
with Coldwater Creek.

00:27:27.727 --> 00:27:31.325 line:20%
Over the summer, it started,
like, right here,

00:27:31.349 --> 00:27:33.365 line:20%
and my face
started to become numb

00:27:33.389 --> 00:27:36.320
and my jaw started
to lock up a little bit.

00:27:36.344 --> 00:27:42.587
And that was
the summer of 2011.

00:27:43.046 --> 00:27:45.394
It was around
my 13th birthday.

00:27:45.418 --> 00:27:49.806
Right at the end of school
to about midsummer.

00:27:49.830 --> 00:27:51.638 position:20%
And then around midsummer--

00:27:51.662 --> 00:27:53.054
I think it was,
like, July 4th--

00:27:53.078 --> 00:27:57.548
that it, actually,
like, hit and, uh,
I went to the hospital

00:27:57.572 --> 00:28:00.112
and stayed there
for, like, two months.

00:28:00.819 --> 00:28:03.584
You can close your eyes,
too, if you want.

00:28:03.608 --> 00:28:07.562 position:20%
- Are you gonna talk to me?
- Oh, yeah.

00:28:08.645 --> 00:28:12.076
- Are you sure?
- Mm-hmm.

00:28:12.100 --> 00:28:13.515 position:20%
Okay.

00:28:15.181 --> 00:28:18.445
- Do you need anything?
- Mmm, no, I\'\'m good.

00:28:18.469 --> 00:28:22.108
- Okay.
- I think I might take a nap.

00:28:22.132 --> 00:28:23.630
Okay.

00:28:34.702 --> 00:28:37.259
Nolte:
I believe that
I was poisoned

00:28:37.283 --> 00:28:41.546
by the creek
and the nuclear dumping
that went on there

00:28:41.570 --> 00:28:45.667
and that my son inherited
this kind of disease
from that.

00:28:45.691 --> 00:28:48.457
My neighborhood
was a hot spot.

00:28:48.481 --> 00:28:49.997
And the children
who were raised there

00:28:50.021 --> 00:28:51.287
are now having
very sick children.

00:28:51.311 --> 00:28:53.951
My sisters-- three of us
have had children

00:28:53.975 --> 00:28:58.803
and each of us has had one
very sick child.

00:28:59.386 --> 00:29:04.108
I\'\'m really grateful
to the people really
looking into this

00:29:04.132 --> 00:29:06.106
because I don\'\'t have time
to do that.

00:29:06.130 --> 00:29:12.373
My life is invested here
in trying to help my son
get through this.

00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:17.868
We anticipate going home
with hospice care.

00:29:18.325 --> 00:29:20.739
( whispers )
If we make it out.

00:29:28.648 --> 00:29:31.479
( music playing )

00:29:47.380 --> 00:29:49.211
( beeping )

00:30:03.321 --> 00:30:04.986
( chatter )

00:30:20.810 --> 00:30:25.281 line:20%
Step one that\'\'s angered me
and kept me awake at night
and nightmares

00:30:25.305 --> 00:30:28.320 line:20%
is that all the basements
of my childhood friends\'\' homes

00:30:28.344 --> 00:30:32.899 position:80% line:20%
were flooded
with thorium-230 water
in the 1970s and 1980s,

00:30:32.923 --> 00:30:34.065
and people live
in those houses.

00:30:34.089 --> 00:30:35.937 position:80%
What are we gonna do
to get in those houses

00:30:35.961 --> 00:30:36.853 position:80%
to test those basements?

00:30:36.877 --> 00:30:38.019
What do we do about that?

00:30:38.043 --> 00:30:40.891
So crux of the meeting
with the Army Corps

00:30:40.915 --> 00:30:43.221 position:80%
is to update the public
with where are they at

00:30:43.245 --> 00:30:45.303
on their testing
and the remediation.

00:30:45.327 --> 00:30:49.008 position:80% line:20%
Carl Chappell:
Just in St. Louis alone,
they\'\'ve already taken out

00:30:49.032 --> 00:30:53.253 line:20%
1.2 million cubic yards
of contaminated material.

00:30:53.277 --> 00:30:55.500
Right now, the place
is where they found it.

00:30:55.524 --> 00:30:58.123
And the embankment levels
of Coldwater Creek,

00:30:58.147 --> 00:31:02.119
which are, you know,
the wall areas below--
above the waterline.

00:31:02.143 --> 00:31:04.242
Kat Logan Smith:
I think the most
important thing for people

00:31:04.266 --> 00:31:07.406
to know is what\'\'s been
cleaned up and what hasn\'\'t.

00:31:07.430 --> 00:31:09.653 line:20%
And then who\'\'s sick.

00:31:09.677 --> 00:31:12.942 line:20%
Kat:
Thank you, everybody,
for coming out tonight.

00:31:12.966 --> 00:31:16.397 line:20%
The Formerly Utilized Site
Remedial Action Program--

00:31:16.421 --> 00:31:17.979 line:20%
FUSRAP-- with the Corps
of Engineers

00:31:18.003 --> 00:31:19.601
is going to be
our first speaker.

00:31:19.625 --> 00:31:24.389
They\'\'re going
to give us updates
on this cleanup project.

00:31:24.413 --> 00:31:26.262 line:20%
And this has been ongoing
for a long time.

00:31:26.286 --> 00:31:28.468 line:20%
Began in the \'\'90s,
and we\'\'re here to make sure

00:31:28.492 --> 00:31:30.425 line:20%
everyone knows
it\'\'s still going on

00:31:30.449 --> 00:31:32.048 line:20%
and what progress
is being made.

00:31:32.072 --> 00:31:34.421 position:20%
Why wouldn\'\'t we have signs
along the creek?

00:31:34.445 --> 00:31:36.501
I mean, I think that has to go
in somebody\'\'s agenda.

00:31:36.525 --> 00:31:42.162
- What\'\'s your sign gonna say?
-It\'\'s gonna say, \"Warning,
don\'\'t go in this creek.\"

00:31:42.186 --> 00:31:43.869
- I don\'\'t know.
-( applause )

00:31:43.893 --> 00:31:44.868
That\'\'s good.

00:31:44.892 --> 00:31:46.492
- It\'\'s--
-No, that\'\'s not a bad idea.

00:31:46.515 --> 00:31:48.490
\'\'Cause a lot of people
who live in our community

00:31:48.513 --> 00:31:50.446
have no clue
that there\'\'s nuclear

00:31:50.470 --> 00:31:51.903
weapons waste
in this community.

00:31:51.927 --> 00:31:55.149
They have no idea that
it isn\'\'t contained safely

00:31:55.173 --> 00:31:56.648
somewhere
and being watched over.

00:31:56.672 --> 00:31:57.814
- Amen.
-That\'\'s right.

00:31:57.838 --> 00:31:59.603
Gerald Allen:
Regarding why we don\'\'t have

00:31:59.627 --> 00:32:01.352
signs up
around Coldwater Creek,

00:32:01.376 --> 00:32:04.890 line:20%
to date, we haven\'\'t found
any contamination

00:32:04.914 --> 00:32:06.888 line:20%
that would justify
putting up signs.

00:32:06.912 --> 00:32:09.718 line:20%
It currently doesn\'\'t present
immediate risk.

00:32:09.742 --> 00:32:13.506
-So there\'\'s no--
- All: What about
long-term exposure?

00:32:13.530 --> 00:32:18.626 position:80%
Yes, it does present
a chronic, long-term risk.

00:32:18.650 --> 00:32:22.289
The question is,
is there anybody testing houses

00:32:22.313 --> 00:32:25.310 position:20%
that have historically flooded
along the creek?

00:32:29.431 --> 00:32:30.614
Allen:
...any basements.

00:32:30.638 --> 00:32:32.987
Man:
You know, if we\'\'re trying
to protect people,

00:32:33.011 --> 00:32:34.319
that would be a good way
to start,

00:32:34.343 --> 00:32:35.692 position:80%
because if
they\'\'re in their homes

00:32:35.716 --> 00:32:37.899
and they\'\'re surrounded by
contaminated soil,

00:32:37.923 --> 00:32:39.397
that might be
one good way to start.

00:32:39.421 --> 00:32:42.518
Dr. Faisal Khan:
This is an environmental
health disaster.

00:32:42.542 --> 00:32:44.434 position:20% line:20%
The legacy
of the Manhattan Project.

00:32:44.458 --> 00:32:45.891 line:20%
So there is
absolutely no doubt

00:32:45.915 --> 00:32:49.762 line:20%
that there are direct
and indirect risks
to human health.

00:32:49.786 --> 00:32:51.635
When they said
there\'\'s no health risk,

00:32:51.659 --> 00:32:54.424 line:20%
but there\'\'s long-term risks,
I was like, \"What?\"

00:32:54.448 --> 00:32:56.796 line:20%
I didn\'\'t like that at all.
Do you know what I mean?

00:32:56.820 --> 00:32:58.711
I felt like
they dusted over a lot.

00:32:58.735 --> 00:33:02.665
I\'\'m a sick person that is sick
from this fucking creek.

00:33:02.689 --> 00:33:04.414
You know what I mean?
Let\'\'s talk about that.

00:33:04.438 --> 00:33:06.245
What are you gonna do
about that?

00:33:06.269 --> 00:33:08.934
( music playing )

00:33:23.419 --> 00:33:25.435
Kay Drey:
Mallinckrodt Chemical Works

00:33:25.459 --> 00:33:28.307
processed uranium
for the U.S. government

00:33:28.331 --> 00:33:34.782
in downtown St. Louis
starting in April of 1942.

00:33:36.448 --> 00:33:38.778
It was in total secrecy.

00:33:40.277 --> 00:33:44.582 line:20%
Mallinckrodt had this
extremely valuable material

00:33:44.606 --> 00:33:46.104 line:20%
from the Belgian Congo.

00:33:46.604 --> 00:33:50.742
The richest uranium ore
known on the planet.

00:33:50.766 --> 00:33:52.324
It was very,
very radioactive.

00:33:52.348 --> 00:33:57.069
Much more so
than the United States
uranium ore.

00:33:57.093 --> 00:34:00.024
The workers
had to use code names.

00:34:00.048 --> 00:34:01.190
They didn\'\'t say uranium.

00:34:01.214 --> 00:34:05.252
They used terms like
\"orange juice\" and so forth.

00:34:05.751 --> 00:34:08.308
Mallinckrodt purified
all the uranium

00:34:08.332 --> 00:34:12.203
that went into
the first nuclear weapons.

00:34:13.369 --> 00:34:18.215
So St. Louis was really
the birth of the atomic age.

00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.528
( music playing )

00:34:25.857 --> 00:34:29.620
Drey:
We have this
wonderful correspondence.

00:34:29.644 --> 00:34:35.156
What they knew
and what they didn\'\'t want
others to know.

00:34:35.180 --> 00:34:37.719
That box there?

00:34:38.593 --> 00:34:44.147 line:20%
\"Do not remove any papers
from this box,\" it says.

00:34:44.171 --> 00:34:47.353 position:20%
- So these are some--
- I mean, it was very nice

00:34:47.377 --> 00:34:51.265
that Dr. Mancuso
gave these to me.

00:34:51.289 --> 00:34:52.597
I was very flattered.

00:34:52.621 --> 00:34:54.577
( music playing )

00:35:14.849 --> 00:35:17.970
Drey:
Okay, it\'\'s confidential.

00:35:19.303 --> 00:35:24.298 position:20%
Um, Gliosarcoma, brain.

00:35:25.172 --> 00:35:26.629
48.

00:35:27.170 --> 00:35:30.850
Carcinoma of the liver

00:35:30.874 --> 00:35:33.372
and this person was 58.

00:35:33.830 --> 00:35:36.744
Bronchiogenic carcinoma...

00:35:38.076 --> 00:35:40.157
age 62.

00:35:41.655 --> 00:35:47.001
Metastatic carcinoma,
age 54.

00:35:47.025 --> 00:35:48.250
Sarcoidosis.

00:35:48.274 --> 00:35:52.686
Bilateral pulmonary,
age 58.

00:35:54.850 --> 00:35:59.072
Bronchiogenic carcinoma,
age 48.

00:35:59.096 --> 00:36:00.030 line:20%
( music playing )

00:36:00.054 --> 00:36:01.944 line:20%
Drey:
Mallinckrodt Chemical Works

00:36:01.968 --> 00:36:05.940 line:20%
right after WWII,
like in 1946 or \'\'47,

00:36:05.964 --> 00:36:11.934 line:20%
began trucking waste
out to the airport site.

00:36:11.958 --> 00:36:13.641 line:20%
And, of course,
going from downtown,

00:36:13.665 --> 00:36:17.162 line:20%
you know, they spilled stuff
along the way.

00:36:25.404 --> 00:36:27.211
Drey:
The truckers
dumped them there

00:36:27.235 --> 00:36:28.168
and spread them out.

00:36:28.192 --> 00:36:29.459
And they did it
even at night.

00:36:29.483 --> 00:36:31.290
And they said
it was very beautiful

00:36:31.314 --> 00:36:32.539
because
there would be sparks.

00:36:32.563 --> 00:36:34.662
\'\'Cause uranium
is pyrophoric.

00:36:34.686 --> 00:36:37.659
It can catch on fire.

00:36:37.683 --> 00:36:40.139
( music playing )

00:36:41.554 --> 00:36:43.902
Drey:
The federal government
decided they wanted to sell

00:36:43.926 --> 00:36:45.402
these materials
that have been dumped

00:36:45.426 --> 00:36:49.813
at the airport site
over an 11 or 12-year period.

00:36:49.837 --> 00:36:51.520
Because they were
very valuable

00:36:51.544 --> 00:36:54.166
and lots of minerals
and so forth.

00:36:56.747 --> 00:37:00.428
So they put ads
and they did find a company

00:37:00.452 --> 00:37:04.656
called the Cotter Corporation
in Colorado.

00:37:08.610 --> 00:37:11.167
They trucked
just about a mile away

00:37:11.191 --> 00:37:14.646
to a place
called Latty Avenue.

00:37:29.922 --> 00:37:31.314
Wright:
My father is an eyewitness.

00:37:31.338 --> 00:37:32.853
Said he recalled
big dump trucks that

00:37:32.877 --> 00:37:36.849
were not covered,
coming and just dumping piles

00:37:36.873 --> 00:37:38.373
that looked like dirt.

00:37:40.245 --> 00:37:43.593
Rainwater was coming off
of these piles

00:37:43.617 --> 00:37:46.697
and washing
into the creek.

00:37:47.238 --> 00:37:49.236
( thunder rumbling )

00:37:59.018 --> 00:38:01.308
( rumbling continues )

00:38:09.633 --> 00:38:11.190
Drey:
Then in 1973,

00:38:11.214 --> 00:38:13.979
the wastes were trucked
to West Lake Landfill

00:38:14.003 --> 00:38:17.500
by a company hired
by the Cotter Corporation.

00:38:18.082 --> 00:38:21.745
The wastes were dumped
there illegally.

00:38:24.243 --> 00:38:26.633 position:20% line:20%
I don\'\'t remember--
do you all remember

00:38:26.657 --> 00:38:29.505 position:20% line:20%
the quarry being divided
like they show it now?

00:38:29.529 --> 00:38:31.421 line:20%
- No.
- There wasn\'\'t no separation.

00:38:31.445 --> 00:38:32.960 line:20%
There wasn\'\'t no West Lake
and Bridgeton.

00:38:32.984 --> 00:38:35.583
Richard Blount:They came up
with that later on.

00:38:35.607 --> 00:38:37.456
Blount:
They just assumed
everybody was dead.

00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:41.868
You know, there was nobody
to tell the story about it,

00:38:41.892 --> 00:38:43.367
but thank God we\'\'re here.

00:38:43.391 --> 00:38:44.698 position:80%
That\'\'s what I\'\'m saying.

00:38:44.722 --> 00:38:47.820 line:20%
Walked in the front gate
and drive your car anywhere.

00:38:47.844 --> 00:38:50.942 line:20%
- Yeah.
- No restricted area
at no time.

00:38:50.966 --> 00:38:53.399 position:20% line:20%
I worked around the plant
and I worked all up there
on Taussig.

00:38:53.423 --> 00:38:57.103 line:20%
All the way around.
Picked up grass, cut weeds,
whatever they tell me to do.

00:38:57.127 --> 00:38:59.184
Blount:
So did you all have
any protective?

00:38:59.208 --> 00:39:01.224
Davis:No, just go in there
like I am now.

00:39:01.248 --> 00:39:02.473
They didn\'\'t give
you nothing.

00:39:02.497 --> 00:39:04.595
Richard:
Lot of times,
they brought it in at night

00:39:04.619 --> 00:39:07.009
- when there was
less people working.
- Davis:Well, they used

00:39:07.033 --> 00:39:09.466
to dump up there
all the way to, like, 12:00.

00:39:09.490 --> 00:39:11.172
- Day:Yeah.
- They used to bring it
in there.

00:39:11.196 --> 00:39:14.253 position:20%
( clears throat )
And then they would--
they\'\'d cover it up.

00:39:14.277 --> 00:39:16.376
Once they got it covered up,
then everybody drove over it.

00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:18.290
M.H. Jones:
They had to walk
over it, too.

00:39:18.314 --> 00:39:19.373 position:80% line:20%
You could smell that stuff.

00:39:19.397 --> 00:39:21.537 position:20% line:20%
\"What the world going on here
this morning?\"

00:39:21.561 --> 00:39:24.950 position:20% line:20%
They said they had a ground
that would not freeze

00:39:24.974 --> 00:39:26.115 position:20%
that was
from the chemicals.

00:39:26.139 --> 00:39:27.905
( stutters )
It always was hot there.

00:39:27.929 --> 00:39:29.945 position:20%
That was a hot spot.
It didn\'\'t freeze there.

00:39:29.969 --> 00:39:32.567
And if it snowed,
it wasn\'\'t no snow there,
\'\'cause when it hit, it melt.

00:39:32.591 --> 00:39:36.022 position:20%
- It wasn\'\'t nothing there.
- It\'\'s stuff you didn\'\'t know
how dangerous it was.

00:39:36.046 --> 00:39:37.853
You know, you\'\'d just be
out there working.

00:39:37.877 --> 00:39:39.311
You know,
nobody tell you nothing.

00:39:39.335 --> 00:39:41.100
Blount:
And this is something how

00:39:41.124 --> 00:39:42.765 position:80%
they\'\'ve tried
to retain the fire

00:39:42.789 --> 00:39:44.056
and how they try
to separate it

00:39:44.080 --> 00:39:46.844
to keep it from spreading,
and I just laughed

00:39:46.868 --> 00:39:48.344
and said,
\"How can they keep it

00:39:48.368 --> 00:39:50.508
from spreading
when you have it all over?\"

00:39:50.532 --> 00:39:52.987
- Mm-hmm.
- Richard:Yeah.

00:40:01.355 --> 00:40:03.577
Chapman:
There was a smell at my house
and they called me

00:40:03.601 --> 00:40:05.575
and said, \"Uh,
there\'\'s a pipe with, like,

00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:07.740
steam and bubbly stuff
and it really smells.\"

00:40:07.764 --> 00:40:09.406
And I\'\'m like,
\"All right, I\'\'m on my way.\"

00:40:09.430 --> 00:40:12.568
Yeah, well, you see how
it\'\'s flapping.
You can see.

00:40:12.592 --> 00:40:15.690
And there\'\'s stuff--
you can see the stuff
coming out of it.

00:40:15.714 --> 00:40:16.939
Chapman:
Yeah, but I do think

00:40:16.963 --> 00:40:18.397
that\'\'s clear water,
it looks like.

00:40:18.421 --> 00:40:19.686
James Getting:
That\'\'s rainwater.

00:40:19.710 --> 00:40:21.684 line:20%
- This is Mr. Gallagher?
- Getting.

00:40:21.708 --> 00:40:23.058 line:20%
- I\'\'m so sorry.
- Like \"getting going.\"

00:40:23.082 --> 00:40:26.014 line:20%
- Getting.
- Oh, yes, I recall your name

00:40:26.038 --> 00:40:27.762 line:20%
- on the MDNR letter.
- Your name?

00:40:27.786 --> 00:40:28.802
My name is Robbin Dailey.

00:40:28.826 --> 00:40:30.177 position:80%
I live over here
in Spanish Village.

00:40:30.201 --> 00:40:32.507
Yes, I\'\'m the landfill
site engineer.

00:40:32.531 --> 00:40:34.131
We had problems
with the flare last night.

00:40:34.155 --> 00:40:36.711
I had crews working
till 7:00 this morning.

00:40:36.735 --> 00:40:39.708
So we weren\'\'t extracting
the quantity of gas

00:40:39.732 --> 00:40:42.081
- that we were extracting.
- Dailey:Yes.

00:40:42.105 --> 00:40:44.953
Getting:
But there\'\'s
a few compounds in here

00:40:44.977 --> 00:40:46.077
that are very odorous.

00:40:46.101 --> 00:40:47.575
I call them perfume--
landfill perfume.

00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:51.114 position:20%
Yeah, that\'\'s what
I call when you bring out
the odor neutralizer.

00:40:51.138 --> 00:40:52.488
You\'\'re perfuming the poison.

00:40:52.511 --> 00:40:54.651
Getting:
But it\'\'s not poison.

00:40:54.675 --> 00:40:57.940
It\'\'s kind of like
the church lady here, okay?

00:40:57.964 --> 00:41:03.102
Is, you know, she\'\'s got
that expensive bottle
of perfume.

00:41:03.126 --> 00:41:04.683 position:80%
She can\'\'t smell
herself anymore,

00:41:04.707 --> 00:41:07.763 position:80%
so she puts
a little more on
and she sits next to you

00:41:07.787 --> 00:41:12.218
and she\'\'s got
so much perfume on
and it\'\'s almost obnoxious.

00:41:12.242 --> 00:41:13.134
- Okay?
- Mm-hmm.

00:41:13.158 --> 00:41:17.046
So I call this--
this is kind of like
my church lady.

00:41:17.070 --> 00:41:23.914
All right, so my job
is to control the gases
that are going into the air.

00:41:23.938 --> 00:41:26.329 position:80%
But a little-- and, yes,

00:41:26.353 --> 00:41:29.533
( stutters )
I\'\'m getting a whiff
of it here.

00:41:29.557 --> 00:41:32.448
Mr. Getting,
people are really
becoming ill.

00:41:32.472 --> 00:41:36.152 position:80%
But I\'\'m not a doctor.
I can\'\'t speak to that.

00:41:36.176 --> 00:41:37.900
People are getting ill
from it.

00:41:37.924 --> 00:41:40.315
- Yeah, we\'\'ve seen
the haul logs...
- All right.

00:41:40.339 --> 00:41:41.398 position:20%
...of what was dumped here.

00:41:41.422 --> 00:41:43.396 position:20%
- It\'\'s just absolutely...
- I have all the receipts.

00:41:43.420 --> 00:41:45.517
- ...it\'\'s absolutely
incredible.
- I have the receipts.

00:41:45.541 --> 00:41:47.598
Some are not even listed,
they\'\'re just, like,

00:41:47.622 --> 00:41:49.181 position:20%
question mark, unknown.

00:41:49.205 --> 00:41:51.203
( music playing )

00:42:22.712 --> 00:42:26.043
I spent a lot of time
out here.

00:42:26.625 --> 00:42:28.682
Norris:
December 2010
is the first time

00:42:28.706 --> 00:42:30.722
that we were aware
of conditions that may be

00:42:30.746 --> 00:42:36.467
subsurface smoldering,
elevated temperatures,
elevated carbon monoxide.

00:42:36.491 --> 00:42:41.212
In early 2012 or so,
we were observing the failure

00:42:41.236 --> 00:42:42.710
of some of the wells
from heat.

00:42:42.734 --> 00:42:46.333
The wells
were starting to actually
kind of topple over.

00:42:46.357 --> 00:42:48.039
There were areas where
we started seeing

00:42:48.063 --> 00:42:53.574
portions of the landfill drop
in elevation about 15 feet
or so.

00:42:53.598 --> 00:42:55.614
You know, that\'\'s pretty
dramatic settlement

00:42:55.638 --> 00:42:57.262 position:20%
over the course of a year.

00:42:58.011 --> 00:42:59.943
You would start
seeing cracks

00:42:59.967 --> 00:43:00.984
forming on the surface.

00:43:01.008 --> 00:43:05.272
We saw cracks that were,
in some cases,

00:43:05.296 --> 00:43:06.395
a foot or two wide.

00:43:06.419 --> 00:43:07.518
We also observed odors

00:43:07.542 --> 00:43:10.890
getting out
of those cracks.

00:43:10.914 --> 00:43:12.015 position:20%
They had a failure of part

00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:13.637
of the landfill
gas extraction system.

00:43:13.661 --> 00:43:16.385
And the areas
where they had put
black plastic down

00:43:16.409 --> 00:43:20.090
to try to capture
some of the odors,
they were pillowed out.

00:43:20.114 --> 00:43:25.649
You know, in some cases,
about 10 feet up in the air.

00:43:26.150 --> 00:43:28.124
You know, on the other side
of that plastic

00:43:28.148 --> 00:43:31.786
is volatile
organic compounds.

00:43:31.810 --> 00:43:34.908
In March 2013,
I accompanied staff

00:43:34.932 --> 00:43:37.364
from the Hazardous
Waste Program, and, you know,

00:43:37.388 --> 00:43:40.195
there were a couple hot spots
that they found.

00:43:40.219 --> 00:43:44.108
They found radium-226
at the ground surface.

00:43:44.132 --> 00:43:47.021
- So--
- Cammisa:Does this stuff
blow off into the air?

00:43:47.045 --> 00:43:51.748
That\'\'s certainly, you know,
one of the potential concerns.

00:43:52.914 --> 00:43:55.370
( music playing )

00:43:57.160 --> 00:43:58.592 line:20%
Okay, joining me
at the table, Robbin Dailey,

00:43:58.616 --> 00:44:02.547 position:20% line:20%
a citizen activist
you have become now
around this issue.

00:44:02.571 --> 00:44:04.878 line:20%
And also Russ Knocke,
Director of Field
Communications

00:44:04.902 --> 00:44:08.333 line:20%
and Public Affairs
at Republic Services,
the owner of Bridgeton Landfill

00:44:08.357 --> 00:44:09.873 position:20% line:20%
-which is right next door.
- Correct.

00:44:09.897 --> 00:44:12.121 line:20%
So thank you
for being here.
Robbin, I\'\'ll start with you.

00:44:12.145 --> 00:44:15.368 line:20%
As a resident
who lives how close
to West Lake Landfill?

00:44:15.392 --> 00:44:17.949 line:20%
- Less than half a mile.
- Less than half of a mile.

00:44:17.973 --> 00:44:21.611 line:20%
And what have
those last four years
or so have been like?

00:44:21.635 --> 00:44:27.023 line:20%
It\'\'s been
a roller coaster ride
from H-E-double L.

00:44:27.047 --> 00:44:29.437 line:20%
You really don\'\'t know
when we can open our windows.

00:44:29.461 --> 00:44:31.643 line:20%
If you open your windows,
then pretty soon,

00:44:31.667 --> 00:44:32.683 line:20%
here comes
the waft of it.

00:44:32.707 --> 00:44:36.223 line:20%
Even a simple thing
as hanging Christmas lights,

00:44:36.247 --> 00:44:38.012 position:80% line:20%
my husband had
to put on a respirator.

00:44:38.036 --> 00:44:39.551
Nolen:
Russ, I know you\'\'ve heard

00:44:39.575 --> 00:44:40.675
these issues before.

00:44:40.699 --> 00:44:43.506
I\'\'m curious, would you want
to live in this area?

00:44:43.530 --> 00:44:44.838
It\'\'s actually--
Spanish Village

00:44:44.862 --> 00:44:47.793
and Bridgeton--
it\'\'s a phenomenal community.

00:44:47.817 --> 00:44:49.168 position:20%
You know,
one of the concerns we have

00:44:49.192 --> 00:44:51.124 line:20%
is what this hysteria
is actually doing

00:44:51.148 --> 00:44:53.913 line:20%
for Bridgeton
and the future of Bridgeton.

00:44:53.937 --> 00:44:55.660
Is there something more
you could do

00:44:55.684 --> 00:44:58.034
to make people at least--
put them at ease a little bit?

00:44:58.058 --> 00:45:00.864 position:20%
Well, anytime I get
an opportunity like this one,
I accept it.

00:45:00.888 --> 00:45:03.196
To come on and try to talk,
you know, with the community

00:45:03.220 --> 00:45:07.108 position:20%
about an alternative perspective
that\'\'s based in science.

00:45:07.132 --> 00:45:10.189
Uh, the reality is,
the landfill is safe.

00:45:10.213 --> 00:45:11.437 position:20%
It\'\'s intensely monitored.

00:45:11.461 --> 00:45:13.833
( music playing )

00:45:29.692 --> 00:45:32.315
( barking )

00:45:32.772 --> 00:45:36.328
It\'\'s my lucky--
my lucky necklace.

00:45:36.352 --> 00:45:38.434
( kid yelling )

00:45:46.967 --> 00:45:48.941
Chapman:
Okay, which shoes
real quick?

00:45:48.965 --> 00:45:50.939
Dee Dee Neels:
What\'\'s wrong with the ones
you got on?

00:45:50.963 --> 00:45:54.103 position:80%
Well, nothing\'\'s wrong.
( stutters ) I have boots.

00:45:54.127 --> 00:45:56.850 position:20%
-Well, you\'\'re tall enough.
- What do you think?

00:45:56.874 --> 00:45:58.889 position:80%
Oh, wear the boots. Go.

00:45:58.913 --> 00:46:00.013 line:20%
Go for the boots.

00:46:00.037 --> 00:46:02.969 position:80% line:20%
You\'\'re gonna kick
butt anyway, so go.

00:46:02.993 --> 00:46:05.425 line:20%
Chapman:
All right.

00:46:05.449 --> 00:46:07.381 line:20%
Boy:

00:46:07.405 --> 00:46:11.543
-It\'\'s the trash truck.
- Chapman:Their new--
their new motto is

00:46:11.567 --> 00:46:12.875 position:20%
\"We\'\'ll take it from here.\"

00:46:12.899 --> 00:46:14.748
- Neels:We\'\'ll take what
from here?
- That\'\'s it.

00:46:14.772 --> 00:46:16.205 position:20%
That\'\'s what
they\'\'re trying to pull.

00:46:16.229 --> 00:46:17.578 position:20%
Nationwide,
they\'\'re trying to do

00:46:17.602 --> 00:46:20.451 position:20%
\"Republic--
we\'\'ll take it from here.\"

00:46:20.475 --> 00:46:22.199 line:20%
I think
that is so hilarious.

00:46:22.223 --> 00:46:24.073
\"We\'\'ll take it from here.\"

00:46:24.097 --> 00:46:26.071
-I love you, Dawn.
- I love you, too, Mom.

00:46:26.095 --> 00:46:27.735
Okay, give me a kiss.
Love you.

00:46:27.759 --> 00:46:29.882 position:20%
- Go get them, baby. Mwah.
- I will.

00:46:30.881 --> 00:46:33.771 position:20%
The attorney general
filed a major lawsuit

00:46:33.795 --> 00:46:35.104 position:20%
against Republic Services

00:46:35.128 --> 00:46:37.767 line:20%
that had to do with
environmental violations.

00:46:37.791 --> 00:46:40.764
So the attorney general
has committed to the public

00:46:40.788 --> 00:46:45.176 position:20% line:20%
that the fire will never
be allowed to reach
the nuclear waste.

00:46:45.200 --> 00:46:47.174 position:20% line:20%
Isn\'\'t it funny
that the attorney general
is the one

00:46:47.198 --> 00:46:51.004
that said the fire
will never be allowed
to meet the radioactive waste?

00:46:51.028 --> 00:46:54.085
- Wouldn\'\'t you expect that
out of EPA\'\'s mouth?
-Yeah.

00:46:54.109 --> 00:46:55.832
It would\'\'ve--
it would\'\'ve felt good

00:46:55.856 --> 00:46:57.914
- if EPA had said that.
- But it didn\'\'t.

00:46:57.938 --> 00:46:59.703
He was the first person
to say it

00:46:59.727 --> 00:47:02.516
and he said it early on.

00:47:06.637 --> 00:47:08.611
Clemens:
The EPA, it seems to me,
they\'\'re curling up

00:47:08.635 --> 00:47:10.485
- in their shell.
- Chapman:They\'\'re scared.

00:47:10.508 --> 00:47:11.608 position:80% line:20%
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:47:11.632 --> 00:47:13.856 line:20%
But they don\'\'t want
to do their job.

00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:15.896 line:20%
They fucked up this site--
pardon me--

00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:18.477
so badly that
they don\'\'t know what to do.

00:47:18.500 --> 00:47:23.038 position:20%
- They\'\'re not fooling anyone
by not admitting it.
- No, they\'\'re not.

00:47:24.577 --> 00:47:25.345 position:20% line:20%
Thank you all.

00:47:25.369 --> 00:47:30.007 position:20% line:20%
This evening,
we got a couple things
on our list of to-dos.

00:47:30.031 --> 00:47:32.129 position:20% line:20%
The first is,
I want to talk about

00:47:32.153 --> 00:47:35.917
some glaring absence
in the audience this evening.

00:47:35.941 --> 00:47:37.166 position:20%
We do not have
the Environmental

00:47:37.190 --> 00:47:39.830 line:20%
Protection Agency
with us here this evening.

00:47:39.854 --> 00:47:43.993
Our last meeting,
there was an exchange

00:47:44.017 --> 00:47:47.596
between some
of our residents
and the EPA.

00:47:48.096 --> 00:47:50.011
There was shouting.

00:47:50.469 --> 00:47:52.692
Nothing was thrown,
but the EPA

00:47:52.716 --> 00:47:55.981 line:20%
has let us know
that they are concerned

00:47:56.005 --> 00:47:58.501
about their well-being
in our presence.

00:47:59.168 --> 00:48:00.435
Now that being said,

00:48:00.459 --> 00:48:03.223
by Superfund law,
they have to be here.

00:48:03.247 --> 00:48:05.804
And I\'\'d be willing
to have a police officer

00:48:05.828 --> 00:48:07.635
stand at the door
if it makes them feel happy.

00:48:07.659 --> 00:48:10.341
Bob Nowlin:If they don\'\'t come
to any future meeting,

00:48:10.365 --> 00:48:14.254
we will see that as a sign
that EPA is deserting us

00:48:14.278 --> 00:48:17.043
and that is in violation
of the Superfund law.

00:48:17.067 --> 00:48:18.582
- Clemens:Yes, Dawn?
- May I say something?

00:48:18.606 --> 00:48:20.539
I just really quick
would like to add

00:48:20.563 --> 00:48:22.870
that when we did
that meeting with EPA,

00:48:22.894 --> 00:48:24.743
it was in the spirit
of cooperation.

00:48:24.767 --> 00:48:26.700
You know, they come
to these meetings

00:48:26.724 --> 00:48:29.155
and we present them
with these facts.

00:48:29.179 --> 00:48:30.321
Every single thing.

00:48:30.345 --> 00:48:31.987
From the one in 50
terminal cancer risk

00:48:32.011 --> 00:48:35.857
to the 39,000 tons of soil
that they\'\'re not acknowledging,

00:48:35.881 --> 00:48:37.314
to the error
in the risk assessment

00:48:37.338 --> 00:48:40.270
to math errors,
we laid it all out for them.

00:48:40.294 --> 00:48:41.685
And what I want
you guys to know

00:48:41.709 --> 00:48:42.934
is that
when they left that room,

00:48:42.958 --> 00:48:46.596
we took away from them
plausible deniability.

00:48:46.620 --> 00:48:49.261
There is no way
using their own documents

00:48:49.285 --> 00:48:50.717
and looking
at that information

00:48:50.741 --> 00:48:53.756
that they left that room
notthinking

00:48:53.780 --> 00:48:54.922 position:20%
there were mistakes
at this site.

00:48:54.946 --> 00:48:59.334
We said we want you guys
from this moment forward
to do the right thing.

00:48:59.358 --> 00:49:00.749
You have a mandate
as our EPA,

00:49:00.773 --> 00:49:04.454
now you go do
what you\'\'re supposed to do.

00:49:04.478 --> 00:49:07.284
- So...
- Thank you, Dawn.

00:49:07.308 --> 00:49:08.890
( music playing )

00:49:49.724 --> 00:49:52.614
Chapman:
\"The mere fact that
there is a fire at this site,

00:49:52.638 --> 00:49:54.904
as long as it continues
to burn,

00:49:54.928 --> 00:49:59.149
we cannot and will not
stand by and watch

00:49:59.173 --> 00:50:03.686 position:80%
and wait another 10 years
while EPA drags their feet

00:50:03.710 --> 00:50:07.016
and agencies continue
to point fingers at each other

00:50:07.040 --> 00:50:13.409
while our children
and grandchildren are being
poisoned and dying.\"

00:50:20.776 --> 00:50:24.832
Gibbs:
Just Moms St. Louis
have traveled to D.C.

00:50:24.856 --> 00:50:29.369
to meet with EPA
Administrator Gina McCarthy.

00:50:29.393 --> 00:50:31.825 line:20%
( chatter )

00:50:31.849 --> 00:50:32.824 line:20%
How are you?

00:50:32.848 --> 00:50:34.864
Okay, I\'\'m so excited.
We\'\'re ready.

00:50:34.888 --> 00:50:39.109 line:20%
Unfortunately,
the administrator
has refused to meet

00:50:39.133 --> 00:50:45.311
even after receivinga bipartisan letter requesting
such a meeting.

00:50:45.335 --> 00:50:48.724 position:20%
Who else has the ability
to help the victims?

00:50:48.748 --> 00:50:49.682 line:20%
Bill Gates does.

00:50:49.706 --> 00:50:53.262 line:20%
He holds 30% of the shares
of Republic Services through

00:50:53.286 --> 00:50:57.133 line:20%
his investment company,
Cascade Investments.

00:50:57.157 --> 00:51:00.046
This includes
17 million shares

00:51:00.070 --> 00:51:03.359
worth about $694 million,

00:51:03.859 --> 00:51:05.707 position:80%
purchased in 2014 alone.

00:51:05.731 --> 00:51:11.975 position:20%
He has the power
to convince Republic Services
to do the right thing.

00:51:12.475 --> 00:51:14.157
Meagan Beckermann:
My child has been diagnosed

00:51:14.181 --> 00:51:19.319 position:20% line:20%
with a rare form of alopecia,
environmentally triggered.

00:51:19.343 --> 00:51:22.399 line:20%
I go to bed worrying,
I wake up worrying

00:51:22.423 --> 00:51:24.688 line:20%
that my 5-year-old
will develop cancer.

00:51:24.712 --> 00:51:28.518 position:20% line:20%
- Gibbs:Okay, guys.
- ( all chanting )
Gina McCarthy, meet today!

00:51:28.542 --> 00:51:30.016 line:20%
The moms are not going away!

00:51:30.040 --> 00:51:34.096 line:20%
Gina McCarthy, meet today!
The moms are not going away!

00:51:34.120 --> 00:51:38.800 line:20%
Gina McCarthy, meet today!
The moms are not going away!

00:51:38.824 --> 00:51:40.672 position:20%
Gina McCarthy, meet today!

00:51:40.696 --> 00:51:42.545
We want to drop off a book.
Is that okay?

00:51:42.569 --> 00:51:45.667
- Man:You can\'\'t do that,
I\'\'m sorry.
- We can\'\'t let you guys in.

00:51:45.691 --> 00:51:46.625 position:80%
We\'\'re sorry about that.

00:51:46.649 --> 00:51:48.499 position:20%
If you guys could somehow
get in contact with her,

00:51:48.522 --> 00:51:49.705
- then maybe--
- If we could get

00:51:49.729 --> 00:51:51.454 position:20%
in contact with her,
we wouldn\'\'t be here, sir.

00:51:51.478 --> 00:51:53.160
- Hey, and I understand.
- Could you give it to her?

00:51:53.184 --> 00:51:55.033 position:20%
- Would you take it?
- I can\'\'t give it to her.

00:51:55.057 --> 00:51:57.572
- So...
- The moms are not going away!

00:51:57.596 --> 00:52:01.526
- Gina McCarthy, meet today!
- The moms are not going away!

00:52:01.550 --> 00:52:03.566
- You gotta watch them.
-Gina McCarthy, meet today!

00:52:03.590 --> 00:52:08.062
-The moms are not
going away!
- Beckermann:Hello, sir.

00:52:08.086 --> 00:52:10.143
Tom Reynolds:
I\'\'m Tom Reynolds,
how are you?

00:52:10.167 --> 00:52:12.016 position:20% line:20%
Hi, I live
in Bridgeton, Missouri.

00:52:12.040 --> 00:52:13.474 position:20% line:20%
Right next
to West Lake Landfill.

00:52:13.498 --> 00:52:16.969 position:20%
- Are you able to give
something directly to Gina?
- Yes.

00:52:16.993 --> 00:52:18.676 position:20%
I would really love for you

00:52:18.700 --> 00:52:20.716 position:20%
to give this picture
of my son to her.

00:52:20.740 --> 00:52:23.005
- Okay.
- And tell her...

00:52:23.029 --> 00:52:25.170 position:20%
that the moms
are not going away,

00:52:25.194 --> 00:52:28.541 position:20%
and that we need her
to meet with us today.

00:52:28.565 --> 00:52:30.830
- Three moms.
- I\'\'m gonna deliver this
to the administrator

00:52:30.854 --> 00:52:32.537 position:20%
- and I appreciate your time.
- Thank you.

00:52:32.561 --> 00:52:34.244
- Thank you.
- All right.
Thank you very much.

00:52:34.268 --> 00:52:38.157 position:20%
Is she here?
Do you think
she\'\'ll meet or no?

00:52:38.181 --> 00:52:39.430
No.

00:52:40.137 --> 00:52:42.177 line:20%
( chatter )

00:52:48.961 --> 00:52:50.917
Beckermann:
Thank you.

00:52:52.292 --> 00:52:54.224
- Good afternoon.
- Gibbs: Good afternoon.

00:52:54.248 --> 00:52:54.973 position:20%
We have a delivery

00:52:54.997 --> 00:52:57.013 position:20%
for Bill Gates Foundation
on the second floor.

00:52:57.037 --> 00:52:58.470 position:20%
Chapman:
We have petitions.

00:52:58.494 --> 00:52:59.801 position:20% line:20%
Woman:

00:52:59.825 --> 00:53:02.716 position:80% line:20%
No. No, it was
just a delivery.

00:53:02.740 --> 00:53:05.320 position:80% line:20%
Matteo Colombi:
That would be great.

00:53:07.942 --> 00:53:09.126 line:20%
- Okay.
- Thank you.

00:53:09.150 --> 00:53:12.521 position:20% line:20%
- Okay. We\'\'ll get-- okay.
- Is it off?

00:53:13.354 --> 00:53:14.995 line:20%
Nickel:

00:53:15.019 --> 00:53:19.157 line:20%
Woman:

00:53:19.181 --> 00:53:24.277 line:20%
Chapman:
Okay.

00:53:24.301 --> 00:53:25.276 line:20%
Woman:

00:53:25.300 --> 00:53:28.214 line:20%
- Nickel:
- Chapman:No.

00:53:42.658 --> 00:53:44.049 position:80%
Thanks. Bye, honey.

00:53:44.073 --> 00:53:47.004
Thank you for my shirt.
I love it.

00:53:47.028 --> 00:53:48.253
( chatter )

00:53:48.277 --> 00:53:50.460 position:20%
- Thanks, Rebecca. Thank you.
- Bye, Rebecca.

00:53:50.484 --> 00:53:55.520
- Man: Bye.
- Gibbs:Going to the airport,
you must follow me now.

00:54:03.179 --> 00:54:05.593
( music playing )

00:54:10.047 --> 00:54:12.313
Chapman:
When I started,
I thought if we just make

00:54:12.337 --> 00:54:13.936
these phone calls here
and get these people

00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:19.639
the information they need,
we\'\'ll be able to step back
and they\'\'ll take it from here.

00:54:19.663 --> 00:54:21.719
I thought somebody
would take it

00:54:21.743 --> 00:54:25.757
because all we needed
to do was show them that
it was a real problem.

00:54:25.781 --> 00:54:30.502 position:20%
And that\'\'s not happened
and nobody will take this.

00:54:30.526 --> 00:54:33.083 position:80%
We gotta go
to Quinny\'\'s conference.

00:54:33.107 --> 00:54:34.333 position:80%
Please get shoes on.

00:54:34.357 --> 00:54:37.537
- ( ringing )
- Oh, my God. Okay.

00:54:37.561 --> 00:54:38.952 position:20%
State of Missouri. Larry?

00:54:38.976 --> 00:54:40.035
I was gonna ask you about

00:54:40.059 --> 00:54:42.740
the methane in the wells
in the north quarry.

00:54:42.764 --> 00:54:45.820
- Lehman:They report
methane data to us...
- ( chattering )

00:54:45.844 --> 00:54:49.318
-...there\'\'s no problem
on a biweekly basis.
- Yes.

00:54:49.342 --> 00:54:50.608 position:20%
Okay. Okay,
that makes sense,

00:54:50.632 --> 00:54:52.855
\'\'cause I couldn\'\'t figure out
where that would be.

00:54:52.879 --> 00:54:54.229
Maybe it\'\'s not up
on the page.

00:54:54.253 --> 00:54:56.767
Lehman:
So your carbon monoxide
goes up twice.

00:54:56.791 --> 00:54:59.349
I don\'\'t know that,
I haven\'\'t seen all
the data yet.

00:54:59.373 --> 00:55:01.721
- Okay.
-I can\'\'t--
I can\'\'t say that yet.

00:55:01.745 --> 00:55:03.387
- ( phone rings )
- Hello?

00:55:03.411 --> 00:55:04.676
- Peggy Whipple:Dawn?
- Yeah!

00:55:04.700 --> 00:55:06.799
The trigger lines
are still the order.

00:55:06.823 --> 00:55:08.548
- Okay.
-Then we figure
we\'\'re gonna have

00:55:08.572 --> 00:55:09.838
to be back
in court again.

00:55:09.862 --> 00:55:11.337
The changes
that need to be made--

00:55:11.361 --> 00:55:14.566
Honey, I\'\'m talking
to the attorney general\'\'s
office.

00:55:15.814 --> 00:55:16.540
Sophie.

00:55:16.564 --> 00:55:19.744
Whipple:
We don\'\'t expect
that Republic\'\'s lawyers

00:55:19.768 --> 00:55:21.202
will be at all amenable.

00:55:21.226 --> 00:55:23.991
Brian:I want to leave.
I don\'\'t want to live
here anymore.

00:55:24.015 --> 00:55:26.737 line:20%
I\'\'ve had enough
of living in fear

00:55:26.761 --> 00:55:29.236 line:20%
about the health effects
to my family.

00:55:29.260 --> 00:55:31.858
And I won\'\'t lie,
there\'\'s part of me

00:55:31.882 --> 00:55:33.856
that wishes that I could just
pack everybody up

00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:37.852 position:20%
and move to Florida
and never have to hear
about the landfill again.

00:55:37.876 --> 00:55:39.559
And most people I know
in the community

00:55:39.583 --> 00:55:42.348
that wanna get out,
they can\'\'t do it.

00:55:42.372 --> 00:55:43.887
Our property value\'\'s
fallen so much

00:55:43.911 --> 00:55:49.655
that we really--
we can\'\'t afford to move out
of this house right now.

00:55:52.070 --> 00:55:53.961 position:20% line:20%
Concerns tonight
about an underground fire

00:55:53.985 --> 00:55:56.000 line:20%
in a St. Louis County
landfill, a fire

00:55:56.024 --> 00:55:59.081 line:20%
that may soon spread
to nearby radioactive waste.

00:55:59.105 --> 00:56:00.995 line:20%
The Missouri Department
of Natural Resources

00:56:01.019 --> 00:56:03.327 position:20% line:20%
just released a report
on the Bridgeton Landfill.

00:56:03.351 --> 00:56:05.200 line:20%
And News Channel Five\'\'s
Grant Bissell is live

00:56:05.224 --> 00:56:07.240 position:20% line:20%
in Bridgeton
with what this all means.

00:56:07.264 --> 00:56:09.861 line:20%
Bissell:
The DNR says
temperature-monitoring probes

00:56:09.885 --> 00:56:12.650 line:20%
show part of the north quarry
is heating up.

00:56:12.674 --> 00:56:14.149 line:20%
Now beyond the north quarry,
of course,

00:56:14.173 --> 00:56:15.647 line:20%
is some
of the radioactive waste,

00:56:15.671 --> 00:56:17.396 line:20%
and that really
is the major concern here.

00:56:17.420 --> 00:56:19.394 line:20%
Now the DNR has given
the landfill\'\'s owner 30 days

00:56:19.418 --> 00:56:23.847 line:20%
to come up with a new plan
that will guarantee the fire
is contained.

00:56:23.871 --> 00:56:25.513 line:20%
Meanwhile,
nearby resident
Dawn Chapman

00:56:25.537 --> 00:56:28.010 line:20%
feels progress at the dump
has been too slow

00:56:28.034 --> 00:56:30.508
and the plan should have been
developed a long time ago.

00:56:30.532 --> 00:56:33.339
Chapman:I want to know why
in the world are we all--

00:56:33.363 --> 00:56:36.751 position:80%
and I mean
the state of Missouri
and specifically EPA--

00:56:36.775 --> 00:56:39.500
why are we sitting back
and watching this

00:56:39.523 --> 00:56:44.951 position:20%
slow-moving disaster
happen in the middle
of St. Louis County?

00:56:44.975 --> 00:56:48.032
LaVanchy:
The most recent set of data
that I got

00:56:48.056 --> 00:56:50.904 line:20%
were showing some heat
and some CO

00:56:50.928 --> 00:56:54.566 line:20%
that was not consistent
with what it has been.

00:56:54.590 --> 00:56:58.022
So, I felt it was time
to get back on the helicopter

00:56:58.046 --> 00:57:01.875
and get some infrared
of what was going on.

00:57:02.459 --> 00:57:04.848
( music playing )

00:57:05.872 --> 00:57:07.264 position:20% line:20%
Morning, Matt.
Thanks for joining us.

00:57:07.288 --> 00:57:09.053 line:20%
LaVanchy:
Hey, good morning, McGraw.

00:57:09.077 --> 00:57:10.136 position:20% line:20%
How bad is this?

00:57:10.160 --> 00:57:12.009
LaVanchy:
There\'\'s indications
that the fire

00:57:12.033 --> 00:57:14.174
is now moving through
the neck area.

00:57:14.198 --> 00:57:18.710
It\'\'s closer today
to the radioactive material
than it\'\'s ever been.

00:57:18.734 --> 00:57:20.168
Milhaven:
They say a thousand feet.

00:57:20.192 --> 00:57:21.375
LaVanchy:
You know, I think

00:57:21.399 --> 00:57:22.956
a thousand feet
might be conservative.

00:57:22.980 --> 00:57:24.912
Milhaven:
But no one\'\'s
taking responsibility

00:57:24.936 --> 00:57:26.287
and no one\'\'s
taking the lead.

00:57:26.311 --> 00:57:28.575
You talk to everybody--
governor, senators,

00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.905
congressmen,
public officials,
Republic Services,

00:57:31.929 --> 00:57:33.528
they all sort of say,
\"Well, this one\'\'s

00:57:33.552 --> 00:57:35.069
looking at it,
that one\'\'s looking at it,

00:57:35.093 --> 00:57:36.360
we\'\'re gonna do
another study.\"

00:57:36.384 --> 00:57:37.691
Who is in charge of this

00:57:37.715 --> 00:57:39.232
and who, ultimately,
do you think

00:57:39.256 --> 00:57:43.061
is gonna step in and say,
\"We need to shut it
down now\"?

00:57:43.085 --> 00:57:47.165
LaVanchy:
Yeah, you know, your guess
is as good as mine.

00:57:48.289 --> 00:57:50.179
Knocke:
You heard some people
earlier in the fall

00:57:50.203 --> 00:57:52.428
talking about--
these were activists
and some other folks

00:57:52.452 --> 00:57:54.217
who were involved--
talking about a distance

00:57:54.241 --> 00:57:55.965
of a thousand feet
or 1,200 feet.

00:57:55.989 --> 00:57:57.546 line:20%
It\'\'s not true today.
It\'\'s 2,500 feet.

00:57:57.570 --> 00:58:00.169 line:20%
Milhaven:
Okay, well, there\'\'s a lotNof people on social media,

00:58:00.193 --> 00:58:01.583 line:20%
and as you can imagine,
a lot of people

00:58:01.607 --> 00:58:02.958 line:20%
are listening
to every word you say.

00:58:02.982 --> 00:58:05.039 line:20%
I want it on the record,
because they\'\'re telling me

00:58:05.063 --> 00:58:06.496 line:20%
one thing and I want
to hear it from you.

00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:08.328 line:20%
Sure, absolutely,
and here\'\'s the difference--

00:58:08.352 --> 00:58:11.681 line:20%
- I gotta be accountable.
- ( music playing )

00:58:34.950 --> 00:58:37.383 position:80% line:20%
\"If a hazardous
materials incident

00:58:37.407 --> 00:58:39.921 position:80% line:20%
from the landfill
or from an accident

00:58:39.945 --> 00:58:42.542 line:20%
in the community
were to occur,

00:58:42.566 --> 00:58:46.040 position:80%
there are two options
available for a response--

00:58:46.064 --> 00:58:48.496 position:80%
evacuation
or shelter-in-place.

00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:51.784
Sheltering in place involves
staying inside the building

00:58:51.808 --> 00:58:53.657
and shutting down
air intakes,

00:58:53.681 --> 00:58:58.486
where possible,
to limit exposure
to outside air.\"

00:58:58.509 --> 00:59:02.440 position:80%
This is the second time
I\'\'ve read it, actually.

00:59:02.464 --> 00:59:04.480
It kind of slaps you
in the face

00:59:04.503 --> 00:59:07.269
that they\'\'re having
to prepare.

00:59:07.293 --> 00:59:10.266 position:80%
Like, there\'\'s no solution.

00:59:10.290 --> 00:59:12.330 line:20%
( chatter )

00:59:19.821 --> 00:59:22.628 position:20%
Our chief just
parked his car at Target

00:59:22.652 --> 00:59:25.916 position:20%
because there\'\'s no place
to park.

00:59:25.940 --> 00:59:27.998
Wow. Yeah,
it\'\'s packed, dude.

00:59:28.022 --> 00:59:29.164
This may be a new normal.

00:59:29.188 --> 00:59:31.827
- Woman:For sure.
- They\'\'re still coming in.

00:59:31.851 --> 00:59:33.682
( chatter )

00:59:34.141 --> 00:59:36.780
If everyone could just
kind of squeeze together

00:59:36.804 --> 00:59:38.196
and make as much room
as possible,

00:59:38.220 --> 00:59:40.943
it would be
greatly appreciated.

00:59:40.967 --> 00:59:42.899
Many of you
probably heard
for the first time

00:59:42.923 --> 00:59:48.602
about the situation
because letters came home
from the schools.

00:59:48.626 --> 00:59:51.225
The news has been covering
an evacuation plan.

00:59:51.249 --> 00:59:55.387
We called this
emergency meeting
because at this point

00:59:55.411 --> 00:59:58.260
we have nothing in front
of this fire.

00:59:58.284 --> 01:00:00.673 position:80%
Why do we have to have
all of this information

01:00:00.697 --> 01:00:03.837
in order to do
something so common sense
as to build a wall?

01:00:03.861 --> 01:00:07.293
Chapman:Because every place
they test, they\'\'re finding it.

01:00:07.317 --> 01:00:09.373
There is no place right now
to build a wall.

01:00:09.397 --> 01:00:11.579 position:20% line:20%
- They don\'\'t know that--
- That\'\'s radiation-free,
you mean.

01:00:11.603 --> 01:00:15.225 line:20%
-That\'\'s right.
- LaVanchy:
My honest opinion is...

01:00:15.765 --> 01:00:17.407 position:20%
I don\'\'t know that there\'\'s
gonna be a barrier wall.

01:00:17.431 --> 01:00:19.904
I think you all
have to accept the fact
that there might not

01:00:19.928 --> 01:00:23.151 position:20%
be a way to put a barrier wall
into that situation.

01:00:23.175 --> 01:00:24.566 position:20%
- Thank you for saying it.
- So...

01:00:24.590 --> 01:00:25.690
Man:
Then remove it.

01:00:25.714 --> 01:00:26.814 position:80%
I\'\'ve been here 10 minutes,

01:00:26.838 --> 01:00:28.230
I\'\'ve known about this
for two days.

01:00:28.254 --> 01:00:31.351
And this is insane!
This is nuts!

01:00:31.375 --> 01:00:32.849
-This is...
- Welcome to my world.

01:00:32.873 --> 01:00:34.224
...everything
you guys saying

01:00:34.248 --> 01:00:35.223
is get the bulldozers,

01:00:35.247 --> 01:00:36.264
get the nuclear waste out

01:00:36.288 --> 01:00:38.303 position:80%
and move it, and the fire
you could deal with later,

01:00:38.327 --> 01:00:39.801
but... they\'\'re never
gonna do that.

01:00:39.825 --> 01:00:42.049
-I don\'\'t disagree with you.
- They\'\'re never gonna do that.

01:00:42.073 --> 01:00:46.443 position:20%
- Man:
Welcome to the party, pal.
- ( crowd chattering )

01:00:47.026 --> 01:00:49.084
Man #2:
I\'\'m gonna have
Mark Diedrich come up

01:00:49.108 --> 01:00:50.706
and answer a lot
of the questions

01:00:50.730 --> 01:00:54.495
that you may have
about the emergency planning.

01:00:54.518 --> 01:00:56.202
( applause )

01:00:56.226 --> 01:00:58.407 line:20%
I just want to take
a moment to explain

01:00:58.431 --> 01:01:03.652 line:20%
what shelter-in-place
and evacuation means.

01:01:03.676 --> 01:01:05.109 line:20%
What I would urge
you to do

01:01:05.133 --> 01:01:09.189
is to create
your own disaster plan
for your family.

01:01:09.213 --> 01:01:11.685
Woman:
Other than the people
that are here right now,

01:01:11.709 --> 01:01:13.892 position:80%
no one is aware
this is even existing.

01:01:13.916 --> 01:01:17.554
That there is
an emergency plan
to have in place.

01:01:17.578 --> 01:01:19.844
-And that\'\'s why I\'\'m here.
- No one is aware.

01:01:19.868 --> 01:01:21.177
Diedrich:
We won\'\'t know how far

01:01:21.201 --> 01:01:24.547 position:20%
anything\'\'s going to reach
until the event happens.

01:01:24.571 --> 01:01:26.587 position:20%
I mean, I understand that
that\'\'s not an answer

01:01:26.611 --> 01:01:29.460
that you want to hear
and I apologize for that,

01:01:29.484 --> 01:01:32.664
but it is
the best information
that is available.

01:01:32.688 --> 01:01:35.496
- Chapman:Next?
- I moved from Chernobyl

01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:39.307
some 20 years ago
to save my daughter.

01:01:39.848 --> 01:01:43.945
My in-laws, both of them,
died from cancer.

01:01:43.969 --> 01:01:46.734 line:20%
My aunt died from cancer.

01:01:46.758 --> 01:01:50.980 line:20%
My 30-years-old cousin
diagnosed with cancer.

01:01:51.004 --> 01:01:52.811
My mom, cancer survivor.

01:01:52.835 --> 01:01:55.892
My dad passed away
from brain cancer last year.

01:01:55.916 --> 01:01:58.996
Do you want that
for your children?

01:01:59.454 --> 01:02:00.511
What about your life?

01:02:00.535 --> 01:02:04.258
Who will pay
for all of those expenses
for the cancer?

01:02:04.282 --> 01:02:06.505 position:20%
For lupus?
For breathing problem?

01:02:06.529 --> 01:02:09.236 position:20%
For asthma?
Who will pay for that?

01:02:09.818 --> 01:02:12.749
I think that the government
has to be held responsible.

01:02:12.773 --> 01:02:17.204
And people were elected
to defend your interests

01:02:17.228 --> 01:02:20.409
and whose interests
are they defending?

01:02:20.433 --> 01:02:22.781
Money interests.

01:02:22.805 --> 01:02:25.510
You can\'\'t be quiet anymore.

01:02:27.384 --> 01:02:30.714
( thunder rumbling )

01:02:37.167 --> 01:02:39.830
( music playing )

01:02:51.985 --> 01:02:54.731
( crickets chirping )

01:03:05.097 --> 01:03:09.152 line:20%
This is just from those
heavy rains from last night.

01:03:09.176 --> 01:03:11.798 line:20%
You know, Wednesday,
this was dry.

01:03:12.297 --> 01:03:15.063 position:80%
In the 20-plus years
that you\'\'ve lived here,

01:03:15.087 --> 01:03:17.435
how far is that water
from the creek

01:03:17.459 --> 01:03:20.890
-backed up to your--
- Mike DeVito:
Most it ever came up

01:03:20.914 --> 01:03:22.056
to about this tree.

01:03:22.080 --> 01:03:25.011
Chappell:
Okay, so you moved in
basically in the late \'\'80s.

01:03:25.035 --> 01:03:28.133 line:20%
- \'\'92.
- \'\'92 and we had the flood
in \'\'93.

01:03:28.157 --> 01:03:31.879 line:20%
- Right.
- So that\'\'s probably when
you had it up to the back...

01:03:31.903 --> 01:03:33.710
- Yeah. That\'\'s right.
- ...to the back door.

01:03:33.734 --> 01:03:34.793
- Yeah.
- Well, they started

01:03:34.817 --> 01:03:37.956 position:20%
purifying uranium
for the Manhattan Project.

01:03:37.980 --> 01:03:40.412 position:20%
- I read that somewhere.
- The Defense Department.

01:03:40.436 --> 01:03:42.327 position:20%
- And may I make a remark?
- Yes.

01:03:42.351 --> 01:03:46.365
My wife and I
are cancer survivors.

01:03:46.389 --> 01:03:48.570
Probably due to that.

01:03:48.594 --> 01:03:53.565 position:20%
Okay, when I moved
to Florissant in 1974,

01:03:53.589 --> 01:03:55.980 position:20%
my son was three years old.

01:03:56.004 --> 01:03:57.877 position:20%
( clears throat )

01:04:02.914 --> 01:04:05.702 position:20%
And he has stage IV...

01:04:08.367 --> 01:04:11.630
- Appendix--
- I know.

01:04:11.654 --> 01:04:14.544
- It\'\'s not easy.
- Yeah.

01:04:14.568 --> 01:04:16.649
( music playing )

01:04:40.792 --> 01:04:42.309 position:20%
So, like,
right here\'\'s really long.

01:04:42.333 --> 01:04:45.555 position:20%
Well, listen, first of all,
let\'\'s not-- let\'\'s not
stretch the truth.

01:04:45.579 --> 01:04:49.093
( laughs )
Like, when I lost my hair,
all of this right here

01:04:49.117 --> 01:04:54.695 position:20%
was completely bald,
but I kept a little hair here
and a little hair here.

01:04:55.070 --> 01:04:56.961 position:20%
You could put Gaffee
in retirement.

01:04:56.985 --> 01:04:57.876 position:80%
Gaffee needs to retire.

01:04:57.900 --> 01:05:00.999 position:80%
She\'\'s been a real...
pain in the butt lately.

01:05:01.023 --> 01:05:04.203 line:20%
She\'\'s not wind-friendly.
Don\'\'t wear a wig in the wind.

01:05:04.227 --> 01:05:05.369 line:20%
It just doesn\'\'t work out.

01:05:05.393 --> 01:05:07.616 line:20%
As she lays there dead
like-- ( guffaws )

01:05:07.640 --> 01:05:09.656 line:20%
like a-- like a tired cat.

01:05:09.680 --> 01:05:14.027 position:20% line:20%
- Wow, it\'\'s like happy hour.
- Cheers.

01:05:14.051 --> 01:05:16.732 position:80%
Woman:
Just the kind of-- this is
the thing with this style.

01:05:16.756 --> 01:05:21.353
She can really do
a lot of really cute,
different things with it.

01:05:21.377 --> 01:05:22.726
So, I think that it might be

01:05:22.750 --> 01:05:23.934
time to say good-bye
to the wig.

01:05:23.958 --> 01:05:26.597
- It looks a lot better.
- Woman:It looks so cute.

01:05:26.621 --> 01:05:28.179 position:80%
And so now you\'\'re--
I think you actually

01:05:28.203 --> 01:05:31.825 position:80% line:20%
look like the picture
you showed her of, um...

01:05:32.324 --> 01:05:34.048 position:20% line:20%
...when it\'\'s combed over
in the front.

01:05:34.072 --> 01:05:37.004
- Yeah.
- It looks just like that,
I think.

01:05:37.028 --> 01:05:39.168 line:20%
I look just like Charlize--
( stutters )

01:05:39.192 --> 01:05:43.122 line:20%
I know.
I\'\'m gonna try to convince
Mike of that when I get home.

01:05:43.146 --> 01:05:44.663
( both laughing )

01:05:45.687 --> 01:05:48.701
Seger:
I went this week
for cancer scans

01:05:48.725 --> 01:05:50.492
and I go tomorrow
for the results.

01:05:50.515 --> 01:05:53.613 line:20%
So I\'\'m just
going with everything\'\'s--

01:05:53.637 --> 01:05:56.486 line:20%
every little thing\'\'s
gonna be all right.

01:05:56.509 --> 01:05:57.651
♪ Every little thing ♪

01:05:57.675 --> 01:06:00.689
- ♪ Gonna be all right. ♪
-It\'\'s gonna be all right.

01:06:00.713 --> 01:06:02.146 position:80%
Woman:
Do you guys want a refill?

01:06:02.170 --> 01:06:04.936
- What?
- ( both laughing )

01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:07.374
( music playing )

01:06:26.355 --> 01:06:29.577
- Oh, here we are again.
- I know.

01:06:29.601 --> 01:06:34.072 position:80%
Home away from home.

01:06:34.096 --> 01:06:37.403
Woman:
It appears that the cancer
is spreading outside now.

01:06:37.427 --> 01:06:40.524
There appear to be spots
in the spine and the bones.

01:06:40.548 --> 01:06:43.063
The brain scan
is showing 13 spots.

01:06:43.087 --> 01:06:46.810
- Seger:Is this changing
my stage of cancer to IV?
- Yes.

01:06:46.834 --> 01:06:51.306
- Yes.
- Are you fucking kidding me?

01:06:51.330 --> 01:06:52.721
Yeah. You did everything.

01:06:52.745 --> 01:06:55.177
And you followed through
with everything
that was said,

01:06:55.201 --> 01:06:58.530
so this is not
for the lack of you trying.

01:07:01.777 --> 01:07:03.335
Courtois:
Keep your positive attitude.

01:07:03.359 --> 01:07:05.083 position:20%
Oh, what good has
my positive attitude done?

01:07:05.107 --> 01:07:06.915 position:20%
I\'\'ve done everything.
Every single thing.

01:07:06.939 --> 01:07:09.829
- It\'\'s done a lot for you.
- Courtois:Remember
you\'\'re still alive.

01:07:09.853 --> 01:07:12.576
- You don\'\'t have pain.
- ( chattering )

01:07:12.600 --> 01:07:14.782
Seger:
So Stage IV cancer
is not curable.

01:07:14.806 --> 01:07:17.321 position:20% line:20%
It\'\'s livable.
Let\'\'s put it that way.

01:07:17.345 --> 01:07:19.319 position:20% line:20%
It\'\'s not curable,
but you can live with it.

01:07:19.343 --> 01:07:23.149
- ( chuckles )
- I know. I know.

01:07:23.173 --> 01:07:25.045
( music playing )

01:07:32.122 --> 01:07:33.888
Field:
All these different types
of cancers

01:07:33.912 --> 01:07:38.175
could be associated
with the exposure
from the site,

01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:39.632 line:20%
but to really say that--

01:07:39.656 --> 01:07:43.795 line:20%
for an individual,
that their cancer was caused
from the site,

01:07:43.819 --> 01:07:46.708 line:20%
would require a huge
dose reconstruction.

01:07:46.732 --> 01:07:50.080
It\'\'d be easily
a $10 million study.

01:07:50.104 --> 01:07:52.269
( birds chirping )

01:07:56.514 --> 01:08:00.427 line:20%
( metal clinking )

01:08:07.711 --> 01:08:10.750
( truck beeping
in distance )

01:08:13.664 --> 01:08:15.496
( man mumbles )

01:08:19.825 --> 01:08:22.530
( clicking )

01:08:24.278 --> 01:08:26.377 line:20%
Wright:
One of our worst fears
from day one

01:08:26.401 --> 01:08:28.874 line:20%
was that we were
gonna have downstream--

01:08:28.898 --> 01:08:29.998 line:20%
down the creek stream--

01:08:30.022 --> 01:08:31.913 line:20%
we were gonna have
more radiation found.

01:08:31.937 --> 01:08:33.536 line:20%
And now
we\'\'re finding out today,

01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:36.617
officially, that, yes,
they found things.

01:08:36.641 --> 01:08:38.199
So now we have
a massive problem

01:08:38.223 --> 01:08:40.738
because our theories
of the transport

01:08:40.762 --> 01:08:44.817
of the radionuclides
downstream is a reality.

01:08:44.841 --> 01:08:46.672
( music playing )

01:08:55.247 --> 01:08:57.845
Joanne Wade:
Good evening, everyone,
I\'\'m Joanne Wade

01:08:57.869 --> 01:08:59.261
from the Corps
of Engineers.

01:08:59.285 --> 01:09:01.176 line:20%
We have areas
of contamination

01:09:01.200 --> 01:09:02.965 position:80% line:20%
that we found
along Coldwater Creek.

01:09:02.989 --> 01:09:06.463
We found contamination
at St. Cin Park,

01:09:06.487 --> 01:09:09.001
Duchesne Park,
and archdiocesan properties.

01:09:09.025 --> 01:09:10.417
Woman:
Are kids allowed to play

01:09:10.441 --> 01:09:12.123
in those parks
while you\'\'re digging?

01:09:12.147 --> 01:09:14.413 line:20%
- Man: Yes.
- The parks
are currently open, yes.

01:09:14.437 --> 01:09:16.202 position:80%
So on a windy day
while you\'\'re digging,

01:09:16.226 --> 01:09:17.743
children can play
in the parks?

01:09:17.767 --> 01:09:19.990
- I just answered
that question, yes.
- Wade:They can, yes.

01:09:20.014 --> 01:09:23.695
- ( crowd murmurs )
- Matthew Zimmerman:
Yes, hi, I\'\'m Matt Zimmerman.

01:09:23.719 --> 01:09:24.652 line:20%
I\'\'m the city manager.

01:09:24.676 --> 01:09:26.443 line:20%
The reason why
we made that decision

01:09:26.467 --> 01:09:28.190 position:20% line:20%
was we were going
into the summer season.

01:09:28.214 --> 01:09:31.187 line:20%
We have a lot of children
and high schoolers

01:09:31.211 --> 01:09:32.519
who like to use that park.

01:09:32.543 --> 01:09:35.267 position:20%
-It\'\'s a heavily used park.
- ( crowd murmurs )

01:09:35.291 --> 01:09:36.765
Woman:
Because it\'\'s a busy season,

01:09:36.789 --> 01:09:38.347
go ahead and expose
the children?

01:09:38.371 --> 01:09:40.802
- Woman #2:It\'\'s in the soil.
-The Girl-- wasn\'\'t

01:09:40.826 --> 01:09:44.258
the Girl Scouts there
for an entire week?

01:09:44.282 --> 01:09:45.780
Lovely!

01:09:46.280 --> 01:09:47.463
If we didn\'\'t have
parks there,

01:09:47.487 --> 01:09:48.877 position:20%
then where are the kids
going to go?

01:09:48.901 --> 01:09:52.375
Woman:
Children\'\'s Hospital
Oncology Ward?

01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:55.579
Zimmerman:Given
the additional information

01:09:55.603 --> 01:09:56.704
and the concerns expressed

01:09:56.728 --> 01:09:58.369
by people
in the neighborhood,

01:09:58.393 --> 01:10:02.222
we will certainly reconsider
that decision.

01:10:02.638 --> 01:10:04.945
Hello. I\'\'d just like to say

01:10:04.969 --> 01:10:06.568 line:20%
that when
we separate the issue

01:10:06.592 --> 01:10:10.981 position:20% line:20%
from West Lake
to Coldwater Creek,
we can\'\'t do that.

01:10:11.005 --> 01:10:13.479
- Woman: No, we can\'\'t.
- They\'\'re one and the same.

01:10:13.502 --> 01:10:14.834
( applause )

01:10:15.791 --> 01:10:19.930
Blount:We get the product
from the West Lake.

01:10:19.954 --> 01:10:21.803
When we built
new subdivisions

01:10:21.827 --> 01:10:25.924 position:20%
in the Coldwater Creek area,
we got the dirt from there.

01:10:25.948 --> 01:10:29.795
We got asphalt.
We got cement.

01:10:29.819 --> 01:10:32.418
And these were used
in our homes,

01:10:32.442 --> 01:10:34.915
our streets,
and our highways.

01:10:34.939 --> 01:10:37.288
So how
can we separate the two?

01:10:37.312 --> 01:10:38.893
( applause )

01:10:40.766 --> 01:10:43.056
( music playing )

01:11:01.912 --> 01:11:06.301
What\'\'s been found--
or my understanding--
is thorium-230.

01:11:06.325 --> 01:11:09.696
You know,
so that\'\'s some
pretty nasty stuff.

01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:12.045
It goes everywhere
from six inches

01:11:12.069 --> 01:11:13.918
to five foot deep,
you know.

01:11:13.942 --> 01:11:18.438
That\'\'s-- man,
that\'\'s just not acceptable.

01:11:18.853 --> 01:11:21.328
The originated point
of Mallinckrodt,

01:11:21.352 --> 01:11:23.391
where it came from...

01:11:24.514 --> 01:11:26.072
took my father.

01:11:26.096 --> 01:11:27.844
( whimpers )

01:11:38.460 --> 01:11:41.457
And this part\'\'s
taken my son.

01:11:43.330 --> 01:11:45.760
( music playing )

01:11:45.784 --> 01:11:48.574
( beeping )

01:11:50.156 --> 01:11:52.213
Bruce Munholland:
Currently for fiscal 2017,

01:11:52.237 --> 01:11:56.293
we are
in the president\'\'s budget
for about $24.5 million.

01:11:56.317 --> 01:12:01.204 position:20% line:20%
The funding is not enough
to accelerate the program

01:12:01.228 --> 01:12:04.100 position:20%
and do it
in a much more rapid form.

01:12:04.641 --> 01:12:08.197
Biggest frustration
is insufficient funds

01:12:08.221 --> 01:12:10.136
and insufficient time.

01:12:16.546 --> 01:12:18.751
( music playing )

01:12:24.289 --> 01:12:26.619
( music continues )

01:12:37.401 --> 01:12:40.664
- Jenell?
- Wright:Dawn,
it\'\'s just beginning.

01:12:40.688 --> 01:12:41.746
It\'\'s just beginning.

01:12:41.770 --> 01:12:44.495
You know, if they found
uranium nuclides in a park,

01:12:44.518 --> 01:12:45.867
you think
there\'\'s a problem.

01:12:45.891 --> 01:12:47.325
People have been
listening to us,

01:12:47.349 --> 01:12:48.781
thinking
we\'\'re a little crazy.

01:12:48.805 --> 01:12:50.447
And now they\'\'re gonna realize
we knew what

01:12:50.471 --> 01:12:52.237
we were talking about
the last four years.

01:12:52.261 --> 01:12:54.109
And this proves our theory.

01:12:54.133 --> 01:12:56.815
Our theory\'\'s
just been that, again,

01:12:56.839 --> 01:12:59.686
where they found this stuff,
Dawn, is where

01:12:59.710 --> 01:13:01.102
it flooded over
and over and over.

01:13:01.126 --> 01:13:03.059
And this whole thing
just makes me so irate.

01:13:03.083 --> 01:13:04.598
- It\'\'s just--
- Chapman:I know it.

01:13:04.622 --> 01:13:06.805
- Okay.
- Thank you, Dawn.

01:13:06.829 --> 01:13:08.618
Chapman:
All right.

01:13:13.572 --> 01:13:18.252 position:20%
Polite people get poisoned.

01:13:18.276 --> 01:13:20.483
( music playing )

01:13:20.940 --> 01:13:23.579
I really just
wanna throw a punch.

01:13:23.603 --> 01:13:26.352
( music playing )

01:13:28.099 --> 01:13:32.779
( horn honking )

01:13:32.803 --> 01:13:34.801
Good morning.

01:13:42.961 --> 01:13:45.060 line:20%
We\'\'d like to thank you all
for being here.

01:13:45.084 --> 01:13:49.972 position:20% line:20%
And we have EPA
to respond to any questions
that we might have.

01:13:49.996 --> 01:13:52.677 position:80%
Agency decided based
on the data we\'\'ve seen,

01:13:52.701 --> 01:13:54.427 line:20%
based on the information
we have for the site

01:13:54.451 --> 01:13:59.464 position:80% line:20%
and how it relates
community concern,
we\'\'re gonna-- we\'\'ve--

01:13:59.488 --> 01:14:02.485
told the parties to install
an isolation barrier.

01:14:03.066 --> 01:14:05.789
We\'\'re negotiating that order
right now.

01:14:05.813 --> 01:14:09.618
And our intent
is to get that order out
as soon as we can.

01:14:09.642 --> 01:14:12.159
We\'\'re hoping this month,
perhaps next,

01:14:12.183 --> 01:14:15.072
but again,
it\'\'s a negotiation
at this point,

01:14:15.096 --> 01:14:17.070 line:20%
but we are
gonna take action.

01:14:17.094 --> 01:14:20.025
We are gonna issue an order
this year.

01:14:20.049 --> 01:14:21.358
Not next year, this year.

01:14:21.382 --> 01:14:23.273
Tonya Mason:
The part of the landfill
that\'\'s burning,

01:14:23.297 --> 01:14:26.353 position:20% line:20%
I guess the south quarry,
has that ever been tested
for RIM?

01:14:26.377 --> 01:14:28.476 line:20%
Vann:
The south quarryNhas not been tested for RIM.

01:14:28.500 --> 01:14:31.223 line:20%
- No, ma\'\'am.
- So I guess this
is my question, then.

01:14:31.247 --> 01:14:32.762
How can any kind
of a barrier go up

01:14:32.786 --> 01:14:35.843
if you don\'\'t test
what\'\'s currently burning
right now?

01:14:35.867 --> 01:14:39.340
Because if the RIM\'\'s already
where there\'\'s fire,

01:14:39.364 --> 01:14:41.004
the barrier means nothing.

01:14:41.028 --> 01:14:42.961 position:20%
Well, the history
of the landfill does not

01:14:42.985 --> 01:14:45.167 position:20%
demonstrate that RIM
was placed in area two.

01:14:45.191 --> 01:14:47.207
In history, you guys said
there was no RIM

01:14:47.231 --> 01:14:50.661
outside of the boundaries
and now there is.

01:14:50.685 --> 01:14:52.617
- So...
- I follow the logic,

01:14:52.641 --> 01:14:55.116
but again,
based on the history
of the site--

01:14:55.140 --> 01:14:58.405 position:80%
Based on the history,
that has been wrong.

01:14:58.429 --> 01:14:59.944
- Right.
- Why wouldn\'\'t you test it?

01:14:59.968 --> 01:15:01.151
-( applause )
- I understand.

01:15:01.175 --> 01:15:03.441
- That\'\'s all I\'\'m asking.
- I know, I know.

01:15:03.465 --> 01:15:06.188
Are you afraid--
I mean, to me, as a resident,

01:15:06.212 --> 01:15:08.186
I feel like
you\'\'re afraid of the answer.

01:15:08.210 --> 01:15:10.208
( music playing )

01:15:38.222 --> 01:15:40.986 line:20%
No one is sure
how the radioactive soil

01:15:41.010 --> 01:15:42.277 line:20%
ended up
in the dense vegetation

01:15:42.301 --> 01:15:45.232 line:20%
you see behind me here
along St. Charles Rock Road.

01:15:45.256 --> 01:15:48.978
What is certain is the EPA
now knows it\'\'s there.

01:15:49.002 --> 01:15:51.185
My message to other moms
who find themselves

01:15:51.209 --> 01:15:55.596
in a similar situation,
Superman\'\'s not coming.

01:15:55.620 --> 01:16:00.051 position:20%
Sometimes, you-- you have
to be your own superhero.

01:16:00.075 --> 01:16:02.239
( music playing )

01:16:15.933 --> 01:16:17.514 line:20%
You know...

01:16:23.426 --> 01:16:25.673 line:20%
Chapman:

01:16:33.292 --> 01:16:35.580 line:20%
McCarthy:

01:17:10.628 --> 01:17:12.229 line:20%
- Vann:Yes?
- Nickel:At this time,

01:17:12.253 --> 01:17:16.016
how far
is the fire from the known
radioactive waste?

01:17:16.040 --> 01:17:17.973
Vann:
My understanding
from the measurements

01:17:17.997 --> 01:17:20.221
we\'\'ve seen,
it\'\'s just under 700 feet.

01:17:20.245 --> 01:17:23.758
- ( audience gasps )
- So, that\'\'s
the understanding...

01:17:23.782 --> 01:17:29.336 line:20%
- Said-- yes?
- Woman:Can you give us
a swear on the Bible--

01:17:29.360 --> 01:17:33.374
100% that
this community is not

01:17:33.398 --> 01:17:35.871
being exposed
to radioactive waste?

01:17:35.895 --> 01:17:39.659 line:20%
Ma\'\'am, I can guarantee you
with 100% from me,

01:17:39.683 --> 01:17:42.032 line:20%
the data I\'\'ve seen
and the information

01:17:42.056 --> 01:17:44.862 position:80% line:20%
I\'\'ve looked at,
I have not seen any data

01:17:44.886 --> 01:17:46.944 line:20%
that\'\'s demonstrated
there\'\'s a human exposure.

01:17:46.968 --> 01:17:48.775 line:20%
Otherwise, I would have had
the authority

01:17:48.799 --> 01:17:49.815
of taking action on that.

01:17:49.839 --> 01:17:53.354 line:20%
I will tell you
that the people I represent

01:17:53.378 --> 01:17:58.099 line:20%
do not want anything short
of a full excavation.

01:17:58.123 --> 01:18:00.080
( applause )

01:18:00.454 --> 01:18:03.427
We also would like
a voluntary buyout

01:18:03.451 --> 01:18:06.448
during construction
and remedy process.

01:18:06.989 --> 01:18:08.922
I can\'\'t promise
it\'\'s gonna be full excavation.

01:18:08.946 --> 01:18:11.461
I know that\'\'s
what a lot of folks
can\'\'t live without.

01:18:11.485 --> 01:18:17.371 position:80%
It has to be what I can do
within the law and the box
that I live and work with.

01:18:17.395 --> 01:18:19.453
LaVanchy:
It\'\'s 2016 today.

01:18:19.477 --> 01:18:21.617
Question is, are we gonna be
sitting in this room

01:18:21.641 --> 01:18:26.969 position:20%
in 2024
with still nothing done
at the landfill?

01:18:27.551 --> 01:18:31.298 line:20%
- All:Lives!
- Man:Save our lives!

01:18:33.629 --> 01:18:34.979 line:20%
All:
Full removal!

01:18:35.003 --> 01:18:37.809
- Man: Save our lives!
- Full removal!

01:18:37.833 --> 01:18:41.347
- Save our lives!
- Full removal!

01:18:41.371 --> 01:18:42.971
( music playing )

01:18:42.995 --> 01:18:45.700 position:20%
( mouthing words )

01:18:52.943 --> 01:18:55.483
( music playing )

01:19:34.818 --> 01:19:37.357
( creaks )

01:19:41.519 --> 01:19:43.892
( creaking continues )

01:19:44.850 --> 01:19:46.889
( music playing )

01:19:52.508 --> 01:19:54.774
Richard S. Lewis:
You know, we\'\'ve spent months

01:19:54.798 --> 01:19:57.938
trying to learn what we can
about the situation here

01:19:57.962 --> 01:20:02.392
and also
about your situation
in this particular house.

01:20:02.416 --> 01:20:05.098 position:20% line:20%
We\'\'ve received the results
and, um,

01:20:05.122 --> 01:20:11.466 position:20% line:20%
they do show that there is
radioactive contamination
in the home.

01:20:11.490 --> 01:20:16.045 position:20% line:20%
We\'\'re talking about
radioactive isotopes

01:20:16.069 --> 01:20:22.187 position:20%
like lead-210,
thorium-230, radium-226.

01:20:22.645 --> 01:20:24.244 position:20%
And furthermore,
the scientists

01:20:24.268 --> 01:20:27.532 position:20%
who have done this work
are able to fingerprint

01:20:27.556 --> 01:20:32.071 position:20%
the wastes that are here
as the same material

01:20:32.095 --> 01:20:34.525 position:20%
that was dumped
in the West Lake Landfill--

01:20:34.549 --> 01:20:38.646 position:20%
the original Mallinckrodt
radioactive waste.

01:20:38.670 --> 01:20:41.227
And unfortunately,
your neighborhood

01:20:41.251 --> 01:20:45.931 position:20%
and your home
is now part of that story.

01:20:45.955 --> 01:20:49.202
And the contamination
is in the house.

01:20:51.034 --> 01:20:55.380 position:80%
Never would\'\'ve realized--
guessed in a billion years

01:20:55.404 --> 01:20:59.126
that this could possibly
happen to you.

01:20:59.150 --> 01:21:00.666
That just--

01:21:00.690 --> 01:21:03.064
( music playing )

01:21:17.631 --> 01:21:22.145
How long
is this going to take?

01:21:22.169 --> 01:21:23.810
Will we be relocated?

01:21:23.834 --> 01:21:28.680
That\'\'s what I really want,
because we really don\'\'t want
to stay here.

01:21:28.704 --> 01:21:30.137
The EPA can have this house.

01:21:30.161 --> 01:21:33.717
They can sell it
to somebody else after
they get it remediated.

01:21:33.741 --> 01:21:36.048
I\'\'ve already
spent enough time here.

01:21:36.072 --> 01:21:39.378
I don\'\'t want to be
here any longer.

01:21:39.402 --> 01:21:41.917
Talk, talk, talk,
and no action.

01:21:41.941 --> 01:21:46.121
They do any action,
it\'\'s half-assed action.

01:21:46.145 --> 01:21:48.077
It\'\'s delayed action.

01:21:48.101 --> 01:21:51.573
It\'\'s not even
the right action.

01:21:51.597 --> 01:21:53.887
It\'\'s just not right.

01:21:55.552 --> 01:21:57.675
( music playing )

01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:10.222
Dailey:
Good evening, council.

01:22:10.246 --> 01:22:13.885 position:80%
I am one of the residents
that has the contamination

01:22:13.909 --> 01:22:19.504
from the West Lake Landfill
Manhattan Project rad waste
in their home.

01:22:19.528 --> 01:22:20.503
I moved there in 1999.

01:22:20.527 --> 01:22:23.042
I didn\'\'t know I was living
and moving next

01:22:23.066 --> 01:22:25.831 position:80%
to a radioactive Superfund.

01:22:25.855 --> 01:22:28.828
Had no idea.
It\'\'s a big secret
in St. Louis.

01:22:28.852 --> 01:22:30.410
They don\'\'t even
allow you to disclose it.

01:22:30.434 --> 01:22:33.573
It\'\'s not necessary
when you\'\'re buying a home.

01:22:33.597 --> 01:22:37.445 position:80%
I didn\'\'t sign up
to live next to one
and I sure as heck

01:22:37.469 --> 01:22:38.985
didn\'\'t wanna be
contaminated by one.

01:22:39.009 --> 01:22:44.063
Because EPA
and Republic Services said
there\'\'s nothing to worry about.

01:22:44.087 --> 01:22:45.770 position:80%
\"We know where
all the rad waste is

01:22:45.794 --> 01:22:47.768
and we know exactly
where it is off-site.

01:22:47.792 --> 01:22:50.640
And it\'\'s not
where you\'\'re at.\"
Well, guess what?

01:22:50.664 --> 01:22:54.094 position:80%
I\'\'m contaminated now
and I wanted you to know

01:22:54.118 --> 01:22:59.256
that I have heavily
landscaped my yard
since 1999.

01:22:59.280 --> 01:23:00.880
My husband and I
have dug holes

01:23:00.904 --> 01:23:03.169 position:20%
almost two feet deep
to plant trees

01:23:03.193 --> 01:23:04.335 line:20%
and other things
so, I mean,

01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:07.748 line:20%
we are really into it
up to here with this stuff.

01:23:07.772 --> 01:23:09.913 line:20%
And now
it\'\'s in my house, too.

01:23:09.937 --> 01:23:12.992 line:20%
We\'\'ve got irrefutable,
indisputable proof.

01:23:13.016 --> 01:23:15.823
This isn\'\'t thorium
that can be found
in the United States.

01:23:15.847 --> 01:23:20.818
It has a monzonite signature,
which is a fingerprint--
a DNA--

01:23:20.842 --> 01:23:22.649
that traces it
all the way back

01:23:22.673 --> 01:23:26.562
to Shinkolobwe Mine
in the Belgian Congo.

01:23:26.586 --> 01:23:29.143
Now there\'\'s no way
in H-E-double L

01:23:29.167 --> 01:23:32.972
I got that from anywhere
but the West Lake Landfill,

01:23:32.996 --> 01:23:37.926
because that cannot be had
on these United States soil.

01:23:37.950 --> 01:23:41.089
So all I can say
is here\'\'s the face
of contamination

01:23:41.113 --> 01:23:44.086
when we were constantly told
not to worry about it.

01:23:44.110 --> 01:23:48.772
My government has failed me.
The EPA has failed me.

01:23:49.189 --> 01:23:50.247 position:80%
My God, we\'\'re referred

01:23:50.271 --> 01:23:52.162
to as \"those people.\"

01:23:52.186 --> 01:23:53.161
\"Those people up there

01:23:53.185 --> 01:23:56.532
that are bringing trouble
into our neighborhood.\"

01:23:56.556 --> 01:24:00.320
By continuing the silence,
it creates the apathy

01:24:00.344 --> 01:24:01.486 position:80%
and it perpetuates the lie.

01:24:01.509 --> 01:24:06.439
And the lie continues
and the homes get sold
and the unsuspecting homeowners

01:24:06.463 --> 01:24:08.687 position:80%
keep coming
and coming and coming.

01:24:08.711 --> 01:24:11.517
Why? My house
can\'\'t be remediated.
You know why?

01:24:11.541 --> 01:24:13.807
Because the source
of where it came from

01:24:13.831 --> 01:24:17.553
is still there
and it still has
the rad waste in it.

01:24:17.577 --> 01:24:21.674
So that\'\'s my sad story.
I look to thecouncil.

01:24:21.698 --> 01:24:22.881
I\'\'m looking for some help.

01:24:22.905 --> 01:24:26.253
I\'\'m looking for more than
\"You know, we\'\'re really sorry.\"

01:24:26.277 --> 01:24:29.874
I know you\'\'re all sorry
and that is a genuine feeling,

01:24:29.898 --> 01:24:31.580
but I\'\'ve heard
enough of that.

01:24:31.604 --> 01:24:33.246 position:80%
We are a hurting community.

01:24:33.270 --> 01:24:36.368
Not everybody
wants to leave, but I do.

01:24:36.392 --> 01:24:38.889
( music playing )

01:25:00.742 --> 01:25:02.698
( music playing )

01:25:06.403 --> 01:25:09.460
- Okay, so.
- ♪ Dadada-da da. ♪

01:25:09.484 --> 01:25:10.833 position:20%
Yes, charge.

01:25:10.857 --> 01:25:12.481
Hello?

01:25:13.521 --> 01:25:15.745 position:80%
EPA office?

01:25:15.769 --> 01:25:19.241
- Pardon me?
- All: The EPA office?

01:25:19.265 --> 01:25:22.363 position:20%
- Uh...
- Dailey: They\'\'re located here
in the city hall.

01:25:22.387 --> 01:25:27.484
- Yeah, we just got off--
-No one\'\'s ever really
told me that--

01:25:27.507 --> 01:25:28.523
Isn\'\'t that something?

01:25:28.547 --> 01:25:30.688 position:80%
You work here
and even that\'\'s a secret.

01:25:30.712 --> 01:25:34.351 position:20%
Well, we just
got off the phone...

01:25:34.375 --> 01:25:35.849
Woman:
I don\'\'t sit here.

01:25:35.873 --> 01:25:36.848
I only do this for lunch.

01:25:36.872 --> 01:25:39.346
I understand,
but you would think
that every employee

01:25:39.370 --> 01:25:41.261
- would know--
- Chapman: That\'\'s a good book.

01:25:41.285 --> 01:25:43.468 position:20%
Here\'\'s Mr. Brad Vann
right now.

01:25:43.492 --> 01:25:45.839
Okay, come on.
This is who we want
to talk to.

01:25:45.863 --> 01:25:48.087
- Hey, Brad.
- Vann:Hey, Dawn,
how you doing?

01:25:48.111 --> 01:25:50.169 line:20%
- Good. Can we come in
and talk?
- Yeah.

01:25:50.193 --> 01:25:51.751 position:20% line:20%
- Hi, Brad. How you doing?
- Nice to see you.

01:25:51.775 --> 01:25:54.872 line:20%
- Good to see you, too.
- Hi, my name
is Robbin Dailey.

01:25:54.896 --> 01:25:57.078
- Robbin.
- I\'\'m, uh, the resident

01:25:57.102 --> 01:25:59.285 position:20%
in Spanish Village
that has had

01:25:59.309 --> 01:26:01.865 position:20%
the contamination found
in her home

01:26:01.889 --> 01:26:04.696 position:20%
and on her property
after we\'\'ve been told

01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:07.235 position:20%
by you guys as well
as Republic Services

01:26:07.259 --> 01:26:09.649 position:20%
that you know
where the rad waste is

01:26:09.673 --> 01:26:11.356 position:20%
and you know
where it\'\'s off-site at.

01:26:11.380 --> 01:26:14.478 position:20%
But you never, ever came
up the hill a half a mile

01:26:14.501 --> 01:26:17.475 position:20%
south of the landfill
to test our neighborhoods.

01:26:17.499 --> 01:26:18.889 line:20%
You just kept us all
in the dark,

01:26:18.913 --> 01:26:21.886
saying it was okay,
nothing to be concerned about.

01:26:21.910 --> 01:26:23.011
Now we\'\'re living amidst it.

01:26:23.035 --> 01:26:24.759 position:20%
How am I gonna fix
Thanksgiving dinner

01:26:24.783 --> 01:26:27.173
- when it\'\'s in my kitchen?
- And you\'\'re all welcome
to come on in.

01:26:27.197 --> 01:26:31.544
-We\'\'d love to.
- Please leave the cameras
and the camera crew behind.

01:26:31.568 --> 01:26:33.833
- I\'\'d be happy to talk
with you all.
-Thank you.

01:26:33.857 --> 01:26:35.499 line:20%
- Thank you.
- Thank you so much.

01:26:35.522 --> 01:26:38.496 line:20%
Chapman:

01:26:38.519 --> 01:26:42.099 line:20%
Vann:
Well, okay, and...

01:26:51.839 --> 01:26:57.709 line:20%
- Chapman:Mm-hmm.
- Dailey:

01:27:01.787 --> 01:27:03.803 line:20%
Vann:

01:27:03.827 --> 01:27:05.842 line:20%
Chapman:

01:27:05.866 --> 01:27:08.424 line:20%
Vann:

01:27:08.448 --> 01:27:10.172 line:20%
Chapman:

01:27:10.196 --> 01:27:14.418 line:20%
Vann:

01:27:14.442 --> 01:27:20.144 line:20%
Chapman:

01:27:23.141 --> 01:27:26.389 line:20%
Vann:

01:27:31.799 --> 01:27:35.439
He did admit something,
Harvey, that I don\'\'t know
if you were aware of or not,

01:27:35.463 --> 01:27:39.018 position:20%
but you know
those particle detectors
that are around the site?

01:27:39.042 --> 01:27:41.350
- Ferdman:Yeah.
- Did you know
they\'\'re picking up

01:27:41.374 --> 01:27:43.846
radioactive particles
in them?

01:27:43.870 --> 01:27:46.386 position:20%
-No.
- Yeah, and they have been

01:27:46.410 --> 01:27:51.298
just not at, quote unquote,
\"actionable levels.\"

01:27:51.322 --> 01:27:54.045
-No shit.
- ( stutters ) I kid you not.

01:27:54.069 --> 01:27:55.127 position:20%
Karen, am I making it up?

01:27:55.151 --> 01:27:56.750
Nickel:
Nope, that\'\'s what he said.

01:27:56.774 --> 01:27:58.482
That\'\'s what he said.

01:28:00.271 --> 01:28:03.119
( brakes screeching )

01:28:03.143 --> 01:28:07.906 position:20%
Baby girl. This agency
knows how that stuff
got in her house.

01:28:07.930 --> 01:28:10.112 position:20%
I mean, they know better.
They\'\'re not stupid.

01:28:10.136 --> 01:28:11.320
They\'\'re not
surprised by this.

01:28:11.344 --> 01:28:15.089
They\'\'re surprised
that somebody else found it.

01:28:16.213 --> 01:28:17.896
( Chapman stuttering )
I can tell you right now

01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:19.561
I don\'\'t want
to live here anymore.

01:28:19.585 --> 01:28:20.934
I\'\'m done. I donot

01:28:20.958 --> 01:28:22.558
want to raise my kids
in this home.

01:28:22.582 --> 01:28:24.432
I get on Zillow
every night looking

01:28:24.456 --> 01:28:26.845
and dream of all
these houses I want.

01:28:26.869 --> 01:28:28.926
Just to get out of here.
I don\'\'t want much.

01:28:28.950 --> 01:28:32.590
I just want out of here
and I-- we can\'\'t afford it.

01:28:32.614 --> 01:28:34.736
( music playing )

01:28:40.855 --> 01:28:42.414
Chapman:
Well, for the longest time,

01:28:42.438 --> 01:28:45.411
our own government
has told us that our home
was safe.

01:28:45.435 --> 01:28:48.948
They have told us,
\"When you encounter the odor,
get out of it.

01:28:48.972 --> 01:28:51.945
Go inside.\"
That\'\'s where you go
to be safe

01:28:51.969 --> 01:28:56.524
from outdoor things
that could harm you.

01:28:56.548 --> 01:28:57.856
All right, love you.

01:28:57.880 --> 01:28:59.063
( smooch )
Night-night.

01:28:59.087 --> 01:29:00.894
- ( mumbles )
- Love you, too.

01:29:00.918 --> 01:29:03.975 position:20%
All righty,
you got all your dollies?
All right.

01:29:03.999 --> 01:29:09.802
- ( chatter )
- All right, well,
I love you very much, okay?

01:29:09.826 --> 01:29:11.551 position:80%
Come on, Cookie.

01:29:11.575 --> 01:29:14.696
Night-night, baby, okay?

01:29:16.362 --> 01:29:18.859
( music playing )

01:30:13.970 --> 01:30:16.551
( music playing )

01:30:36.781 --> 01:30:38.904 line:20%
( chatter )

01:31:33.765 --> 01:31:36.347
( music playing )

01:32:43.280 --> 01:32:45.087
( music playing )

01:32:45.111 --> 01:32:49.482
- ( Gibbs cheers )
- ( crowd cheering )

01:32:52.936 --> 01:32:55.659
Yay, moms.
Just Moms.

01:32:55.683 --> 01:32:57.284
- Whoo!
- Whoo!

01:32:57.308 --> 01:33:01.363 position:80% line:20%
( cheering )

01:33:01.387 --> 01:33:04.817 line:20%
- Whoo-hoo!
- All your fans.

01:33:04.841 --> 01:33:06.732 position:20%
Home at 3:00,
you guys sell.

01:33:06.756 --> 01:33:09.022
It\'\'s all your fans, guys.

01:33:09.046 --> 01:33:09.770
( chatter )

01:33:09.794 --> 01:33:15.514
We\'\'ll see
if you can get those guys
to come to the EPA tomorrow.

01:33:15.538 --> 01:33:18.037
( music playing )