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And therefore it\'s forced upon us to full
force in the United States military.

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And we will prevail

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The Union as it was a presentation to

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the American public turned him hit buttons
and stuff like they\'re not a very good one.

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I don\'t think well when he was talking about
war he either get this solemn phasor.

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We get this stern phase but
he was China gets you to

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think and yeah we\'re
gonna kick their as yet.

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I\'ll show him was right.

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The reality is they\'re gonna
kill a lot of people you know

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and as was all left dotted arrow pigs
you they\'re gonna kill a lot of people.

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The Americans are going to
die Iraqis are gonna die.

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Large numbers of Iraqi civilians who
aren\'t holding guns are all going to die

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My age

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that

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I was part of a Center for Economic and

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Social Rights delegation to
Iraq a fact-finding mission

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In January of 2003 it had several purposes.

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One of them was a humanitarian assessment.

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And we came out with a
report called the human

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costs of war in which
based on our visits to

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hospitals and clinics based on our
interviews with UN officials government

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officials and based on a whole set of confidential
UN documents that we were able to get.

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The report makes very clear that there

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will be a humanitarian disaster
in the event of war and not only

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that the United Nations the
independent relief agencies and

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the Iraqi government are totally
unprepared to deal with it.

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The problem that we see today is that the
lessons of the first Gulf War had not been

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learned by the world certainly not by
the United States not by the Pentagon

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They\'re planning once again
to target electricity.

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Only this time the impact
will be far far worse.

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You\'ll have far more casualties
because whereas in 1991 Iraq was

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a wealthy country relatively speaking
today after 2012 years of sanctions.

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There\'s no middle-class left.

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The vast majority of Iraqis are
dependent for their survival on

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the Oil for Food program based on the
weakened state of the Iraqi population

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Based on the weekend structure of

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hospitals and food supplies and
food distribution in Iraq.

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The report by jacked suggested
that a military attack at

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this time on Iraq would lead
to vast civilian damage.

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The estimates of jacked
range from 50 thousand to

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over 200 thousand civilian deaths
as a result of the military attack.

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One of the imponderables of course one
of the things that are impossible to

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predict is what weapons will
be used on an attack on Iraq.

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There is some danger that the United States

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may use earth penetrating
weapons that are based on

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nuclear weapons than an attempt to destroy

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underground bunkers and
attempt to destroy what they

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feel may be underground stores of
chemical and biological weapons.

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The danger of these Perth penetrating weapons
is that first of all they\'re very unlikely

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to destroy underground stacks of
chemical or biological weapons.

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If those exist they will simply disperse

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them into the environment of
the and not destroy them.

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And furthermore and away
even more dangerous.

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The use of nuclear weapons would open

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the door to further use of
nuclear weapons which has

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not been used in war of course since
the United States used them in

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1945 on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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Another weapon that that has been
discussed is a weapon that produces

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an electronic pulse of such a magnitude
that it cuts off power supplies

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That will of course affect power in
hospitals power to move food supplies.

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Will have a direct effect on the
health of the civilian population.

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And in fact it\'s kind of
interesting the way this is

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now just the last few days there
had been the first articles

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appearing saying that
the that Washington is

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beginning to take into account
the risks of the war.

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It was one of the New York Times the other
day that the risks the risks exclude

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totally the concerns of

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the aid agencies the UN and so on that
there could be horrible humanitarian

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Atrophy and that\'s not even mentioned.

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The risks are the costs
to the United States.

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They say quote Rumsfeld and catalog
big thick book full of risks.

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And these are the risks
that the US government

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and the New York Times and
the elites see risks to us.

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Now to be precise there is a
mention of risks to Iraqis

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namely it said Saddam Hussein might

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use chemical weapons against
the Iraqis and blame it on us.

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That\'s the risk we might be blamed for it.

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Or things might go wrong and that would
alienate the population. So like if

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many people die might alienate the
population and there\'ll be bad for us.

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That\'s the only reason
it would be bad for us.

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The Wall Street Journal a couple of
days later had an article on these very

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faint and they\'re all
excited and the military

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got these wonderful new
weapons that it\'s garlic.

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My 10-year-old grandson playing a
video game and they can use them

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against these none these creatures
you know who can\'t shoot back.

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And so it\'s going to be great fun.

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They\'re worried about some of
them that they call E weapons.

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The weapons will instantly
and permanently wipe out

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the electrical power and other systems
which means massive biological warfare.

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Because it wouldn\'t mean UI that power systems
water systems sewage systems and so on.

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What happens to the people in a city okay

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huge biological warfare and they say
Well we\'re kinda holding off on

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using these because it might harm
us forces to we hadn\'t really

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perfected it yet or again might
kinda alienate the population.

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So that\'s why we might not
use the only possible reason

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America is a friend to the people of Iraq.

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I always in contact with people
interact through most of

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the bombing until the very end when

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the telephone lines were all destroyed.

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And one of the families I was
really close to as Karima.

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She\'s a single mother.

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She has eight kids to two-sided
ins and six daughters.

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And they\'re the most beautiful
daughters you\'ve ever seen.

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The oldest one is 16.

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And the when I was really close
to her name was a mala she was

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13 and she turned 14 the
second day of the bombing.

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And I haven\'t I haven\'t
heard from her since.

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And similarly my friend Haider
he\'s also a student he\'s he\'s 20

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And he was away for out of the country in

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Jordan for a school vacation and he
could have stayed and avoided the war.

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And he decided to come back
to be with his family.

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And he spent the last three weeks every day

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he\'d he\'d call me every
night and often you call

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me in tears because he
kept trying to convince

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his mother to leave with his
his two younger sisters.

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And she wouldn\'t leave him alone.

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And she wouldn\'t leave his father alone.

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And I don\'t know I don\'t know
if they decided to leave.

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I don\'t know if they\'re still in Baghdad.

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I do know that the neighborhood that
they live in was bombed very severely

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By the United States and what\'s striking
to me is that we just we never see.

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We never see these faces.

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We always see the faces
of the Iraqi officials.

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We always see that picture
of Saddam Hussein.

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We never see the pictures of Iraqi people.

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I think part of the problem in America
is that people have a hard time.

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Picturing what these people look like.

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I mean there are some great
movies that have been made

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by the Iranians especially Carlos Tommy.

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And it seems to me a shame
that movies like that can\'t be

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seen by more Americans because
I think it sounds stupid.

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But I think that if people could picture
individual people and see children and see women

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and see old men and see very nice
people living ordinary lives.

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And then imagine that they\'re
all going to be destroyed.

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It would put a human
face on this situation.

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The last Iraqi War there
was a lot of talk in

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America by how no civilian suffered
there was surgical bombing.

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They always use this word surgical bombing.

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In fact we now know that many civilians
suffered terribly in that war and certainly

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they the consequences the
economic consequences

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of that war had been terrible
for the Iraqi people.

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But most Americans don\'t realize that they
really imagine that the last war was won

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by a few well-placed bombs that killed nobody
that only destroyed armaments or soldiers.

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But that civilians weren\'t touched.

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Well this is a terrible myth.

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And I think people imagined that
this new war will be like that too.

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So it reduces the problem of thinking we\'re
going to murder lots of innocent people.

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In December of 2002 I accompanied
Sean Penn the actor and

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director to Baghdad was a trip organized
by the Institute for Public accuracy.

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It was difficult as an American to be in

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part of the hospital where
children were dying and to realize

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that it was the US government
really and not entirely

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but to a significant extent
responsible for their deaths

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and people in the United States don\'t
want to deal with that reality.

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For the most part because of the news media
they haven\'t had to deal with that reality.

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I think of the great American
writer James Baldwin who

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wrote of the people of the United States.

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He put it this way. He said they have

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destroyed and are destroying and do not
know it and do not want to know it.

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But Baldwin went on to say

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It\'s not permissible that the authors
of devastation should also be innocent.

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It is their innocence that
constitutes the crime.

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And a few decades later as we look at what\'s
happened in iraq clearly that kind of

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false innocence of the people in

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the United States which has been
made more easy by the US News Media.

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That phony innocence is
really part of the crimes

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against humanity that had been inflicted
on Iraq by the US government.

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In my name with my tax dollars
that\'s the reality for Americans

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President John Quincy
Adams said in the 128\'s

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On the subject of our fighting
deliberate Greece from Turkey.

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And the United States goes not abroad
in search of monsters to destroy.

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The United States took
up all foreign affairs.

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She might become the dictators of the world

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But she would no longer be the
ruler of her own spirit or soul or

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should we be allowed in 2004 to hold a
presidential election here in the homeland.

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I suspect way to realize that
the only regime change that

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need concern are regains period or soul.

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Isn\'t washed Washington.

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President Adams is long since dead.

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And we have now been in business
since at least 1900 with

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the conquest of the Philippines the
local population did not want us there.

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We promised them independence we
killed 220 thousand and while subduing

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them a few years ago there was
a significant exchange between

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the then general colon
power and then States

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person Madeline Albright like so many civilian
she was eager to use our troops against

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one of our many many many enemies
everywhere we look somebody

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lurking who might one day
find a special death ray.

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Turn it on us.

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One can hardly sleep at night knowing
these dangers all around us.

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When power said no she said
what\'s the point of having

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all this military and not using it
He said they are not toy soldiers.

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But in the interest of
fighting communism we

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didn\'t spend trillions
of dollars until we are

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now threatening to sink under
the weight of so much weaponry.

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Much of it we have shifted over
on to Afghanistan and Iraq.

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So why stop fooling around
with diplomacy and treaties

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And coalitions and just use our military power
to give orders for the rest of the world.

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Last summer Congress received
from the administration

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a document called the national security
strategy of the United States.

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As a historian Joseph Strom Berg observed
and must be read Dewey believed.

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The doctrine preaches the desirability
of the United States becoming to

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use Adams word dictators of the world.

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It also said user in
Nicaragua was quite enough.

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You know now it\'s going to be Korea China.

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It also assumes that the President and

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his lieutenants are morally
entitled to govern this planet.

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It declares that our best
defense is a good offense.

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The doctrine of preemption is next

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declared as a matter of common sense they
could probably right and Self-Defense.

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America will act against
the emerging threats.

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Before they are fully formed
this kind of madness.

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This is not what we started the country for

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the rest of the world one\'s
free nations have a stake in

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preventing sudden catastrophic attacks were
asking them to join us in many are doing so.

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Yet the course of this nation does not
depend on the decisions of others

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We\'re witnessing a unique
event in the history of

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the United Nations and event that possibly

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signals the end of the United
Nations as we know it.

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The UN was established after
World War II when the world came

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together with a moral consensus
that this could never happen again.

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What that meant is that an unrestrained war
a war in which civilians were targeted

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without common legal principles
that would restrain all

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parties both sides from ever doing
that again the fundamental purpose and

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Article One of the United United
Nations charter is to avert

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the scourge of war that twice in our lifetime
has brought untold sorrow to mankind.

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That basic principle and that basic
purpose of the United Nations has

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been fundamentally challenged now
by the United States and Britain.

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Because they\'ve circumvented
the Security Council

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they needed another
resolution for this to be

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illegal war and they fail
to get it but rather than

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abiding by the rules The President
Bush has said very plainly.

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The rules don\'t count.

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They don\'t matter anymore.

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We\'re going to go to war anyway.

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Not only that it\'s a what
he calls a preventive war.

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It\'s it\'s it\'s really not a war.

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It\'s it\'s an invasion by the most
powerful country in the world of

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a relatively small weak country

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whose entire economy and of
course the military as well

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has been subject to 12 years of sanctions.

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But I think the most
important thing here is that

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if we throw out the UN charter
as the United States is doing.

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What are we left with what we\'re left with
is the situation before World War II.

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And that was where Germany for
example launched invasions what

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they called preemptive wars
against say Norway and Denmark

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That was judged by the world at the
Nuremberg tribunals and it was judged

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to be in the words of the tribunal
the supreme international crime.

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So we\'re going back to a period
where it\'s now legitimate for

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the most powerful countries
in the world to commit what

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used to be understood as the
supreme international crime.

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And so because the United Nations or
because the Security Council failed

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the world failed in
upholding the UN Charter is

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fundamental purpose failed because the United
States wouldn\'t allow it to do its job.

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It falls to the rest of us.

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It falls to civil society.

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It falls to the general public
who has spoken very strongly

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against this war to try to enforce

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International law through the
International Criminal Court

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through the concept of universal
jurisdiction for war crimes

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the New International Criminal Court which
was overwhelmingly voted by a 120 to seven.

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In 1998 in Rome there\'s
probably going to be

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the most important human rights
institution created in the last 50 years.

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This is the court that is going to be
able to investigate and prosecute the

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Saddam Hussein\'s the gusto Pinochet\'s the
Pol Pot\'s the EDM means of the future

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It\'s not a panacea it\'s not going
to stop crimes from happening.

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But hopefully over time the existence of

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an international justice system
to punish the perpetrators of

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the worst atrocities is going
to change the way countries are

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governed and international
relations are are organized.

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And I think that\'s one of the things
frankly that the United States

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fears the policymakers in
the Bush administration and

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the Pentagon believed
that the United States is

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the most powerful country in the world and
it\'s not in their national interests.

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Two subject American use of power

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American war making to the
constraints of the rule of law.

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I think the fear goes way
back in American history.

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That is this notion that the
US could be subject to court.

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Jurisdiction are outside
the four corners of

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the US goes back to this notion
that nobody can second guess.

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The US and that our institutions for
justice are the best in the world.

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And this notion of a US
exceptionalism pervades

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that it\'s particularly difficult
for other countries to accept

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because the US is the first to suggest that

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they should be subject to
international criminal process.

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We were strong advocates of the
international tribunal for Rwanda.

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For the former Yugoslavia we
supported it financially.

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And that\'s a clear case of justice.

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International justice is
good for you but not for us.

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The United States was one of the handful
of countries that didn\'t ratify.

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This treaty

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And although President Clinton signed the
treaty his last day in office before he

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left the new administration
the Bush administration

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coming in unsigned It was
an signed the treaty.

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It was almost unheard of that
that type of action where

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a successor government on signs a treaty
that are previous government had had signed.

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And not only did it on sign but it was so
hostile and is so hostile to that treaty or

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indeed almost it seems any form of

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international standard whether it\'s

00:23:54.830 --> 00:23:57.874
human rights standard whether
it\'s environmental standard

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or whatever that seems
to interfere with with

00:24:02.495 --> 00:24:08.119
its way of doing business he
administration has been quite

00:24:08.120 --> 00:24:10.969
clear that it opposes the
International Criminal Court

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and it opposes it precisely for the reasons

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that it could put a US service
person or those higher up on trial.

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In fact the US made quite clear it\'s

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position during the negotiations for the
International Criminal Court at Rome.

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And since there has been
legislation passed in Congress

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that that suggests that we would be able

00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:40.369
to do certain nasty things
to certain government.

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If they ratified the
International Criminal Court

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and it\'s clear that the opposition extends

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not just within the administration but also
majorities in both houses of Congress.

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And now at the moment we see the
United States actively using

00:24:58.280 --> 00:25:04.969
its military muscle its economic
muscle to threaten other governments

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that have signed a treaty not to
cooperate with the treaty and to sign

00:25:09.485 --> 00:25:14.344
special agreements with the
United States which specify

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that those countries will not
turn over any American soldier or

00:25:19.220 --> 00:25:24.769
civilian to the International Criminal
Court and there\'s immense pressure.

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Now on small countries like
East Timor or Bulgaria or

00:25:29.555 --> 00:25:34.849
Romania to sign these these
bilateral treaties with

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the United States indicating that they
won\'t in effect respect the provisions of

00:25:40.520 --> 00:25:43.129
the International Criminal Court
when it comes to the United States

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soldiers it\'s an absolute catastrophe

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The United Nations was born in the
hope that survived a world war.

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The hope of a world moving toward justice.

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Escaping old patterns of conflict and fear.

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The founding members resolve that the
peace of the world must never again be

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destroyed by the will and
wickedness of any man

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We created a United
Nations Security Council

00:26:33.245 --> 00:26:35.599
the United States as a member
of the Security Council.

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In fact one of five permanent members with

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a veto capability of the United States

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voted for a resolution calling
for racks disarmament but

00:26:42.650 --> 00:26:45.559
since 1991 the United States
has maintained a policy of

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regime removal which is taken priority over
the international mandate of disarmament.

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In 1998 the United States used
the weapons inspection process

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as a vehicle of deliberately provoke you to
confrontation with the Government of Iraq.

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And then the United States ordered
the weapons inspectors out.

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They weren\'t kicked out by Saddam Hussein.

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They were ordered out by the United States.

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And the United States began a
unilateral military campaign

00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:11.704
Operation Desert Fox in which 8697 targets
that were bombed by the United States

00:27:11.705 --> 00:27:14.599
we\'re had nothing to do with
disarmament and everything to do

00:27:14.600 --> 00:27:17.329
with the security of tsunami
saying You remember

00:27:17.330 --> 00:27:20.359
the United States policies regime
removal and they sought to eliminate

00:27:20.360 --> 00:27:22.009
Saddam Hussein through military action

00:27:22.010 --> 00:27:24.079
military action that was
empowered by intelligence.

00:27:24.080 --> 00:27:27.679
Information gathered through the
inspection process United States corrupted

00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:29.584
the inspection process by using it for

00:27:29.585 --> 00:27:31.849
purposes other than that
mandated by the Security Council

00:27:31.850 --> 00:27:37.294
. I spent seven years as an inspector
in Iraq is frustrating work.

00:27:37.295 --> 00:27:39.679
We didn\'t get full cooperation
of the Iraqi government

00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:43.489
but we have to keep this in
mind during those seven years.

00:27:43.490 --> 00:27:46.384
Every inspector came home alive and

00:27:46.385 --> 00:27:49.984
no American soldiers had to die and
we didn\'t kill an Iraqi civilians.

00:27:49.985 --> 00:27:52.804
We accomplished quite a bit
in the field of disarmament.

00:27:52.805 --> 00:27:56.959
We\'re able to ascertain a 90
to 95% level of accounting for

00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:59.269
these weapons as well as

00:27:59.270 --> 00:28:03.034
100% accounting for the factories used
by Iraq to produce these weapons.

00:28:03.035 --> 00:28:04.339
We didn\'t get a 100%.

00:28:04.340 --> 00:28:08.209
We don\'t know what the final disposition
is of some critical aspects of

00:28:08.210 --> 00:28:10.649
the Iraqi programs but there is no evidence

00:28:10.650 --> 00:28:13.909
there retains weapons of
mass destruction today.

00:28:13.910 --> 00:28:16.354
And we talked about the
inspection process today.

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Remember the inspectors today are getting

00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:21.634
much better access than we ever
enjoyed when I was an inspector.

00:28:21.635 --> 00:28:24.679
And it appears as though they\'re being

00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.709
successful they haven\'t found any
weapons of mass destruction.

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It as long as the inspectors or interact
getting the full axis they need.

00:28:31.475 --> 00:28:35.089
There\'s no way I can rebuild these
weapons of mass destruction.

00:28:35.090 --> 00:28:38.689
So of course the weapons inspection
process must be respected.

00:28:38.690 --> 00:28:43.519
It is after all not only the rule of
law but it is a method of dealing with

00:28:43.520 --> 00:28:46.009
the critical situation that doesn\'t involve

00:28:46.010 --> 00:28:48.814
going into war doesn\'t
involve the loss of life.

00:28:48.815 --> 00:28:50.569
We must give the inspections a chance.

00:28:50.570 --> 00:28:52.789
We have no choice but to give
the inspections a chance.

00:28:52.790 --> 00:28:56.329
If we want to call ourselves
a law abiding people

00:28:56.330 --> 00:29:00.514
President Bush was never interested in
disarmament that disarmament never had a chance.

00:29:00.515 --> 00:29:05.419
But even though the leader of the disarmament
hands blacks asked for more time even

00:29:05.420 --> 00:29:10.264
though the Security Council made very
reasonable proposals just give them more time.

00:29:10.265 --> 00:29:13.459
Let them see what they can
find help them support them.

00:29:13.460 --> 00:29:15.889
President Bush said no we want war.

00:29:15.890 --> 00:29:18.004
It\'s about the removal of Saddam Hussein.

00:29:18.005 --> 00:29:24.439
Saddam Hussein and his sons must
leave Iraq within 48 hours.

00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:31.009
Their refusal to do so will result in
military conflict commenced at a time of our

00:29:31.010 --> 00:29:34.729
choosing for their own
safety all foreign nationals

00:29:34.730 --> 00:29:39.570
including journalists and inspectors
should leave Iraq immediate

00:29:46.570 --> 00:29:52.234
When you live with nothing but lies being
told you on the media nothing but lies.

00:29:52.235 --> 00:29:53.899
And it\'s done the way they do.

00:29:53.900 --> 00:29:56.659
Advertising is repetition weapons
of mass destruction she\'d

00:29:56.660 --> 00:30:00.164
got mass destruction mass
destruction structure.

00:30:00.165 --> 00:30:02.749
When you hear that 10 thousand times
a day you\'d finally Thank you

00:30:02.750 --> 00:30:05.779
must out you know they can\'t
go on like this forever.

00:30:05.780 --> 00:30:07.729
Well he didn\'t have.

00:30:07.730 --> 00:30:10.429
Now I\'m sure we\'re busy
planting them you know all over

00:30:10.430 --> 00:30:13.519
the place and we will just
go Oh look what we\'ve found.

00:30:13.520 --> 00:30:19.189
Goodness me here\'s an atom bomb made
in USA No no no no scratch that out.

00:30:19.190 --> 00:30:20.854
Scratch that out sets

00:30:20.855 --> 00:30:25.909
He made that Mark I fully expect us to
plant something or other but as it\'s

00:30:25.910 --> 00:30:28.669
United States of Amnesia
why go to the trouble it\'s

00:30:28.670 --> 00:30:32.224
expensive to have troops going
around looking for stuff.

00:30:32.225 --> 00:30:35.239
I think they think the
public or forgotten and I

00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:38.629
think the public is forgetting
it doesn\'t much care.

00:30:38.630 --> 00:30:43.549
I thought when I said that we would
lose the war I still think we will.

00:30:43.550 --> 00:30:50.640
Afghanistan the fighting is going on rather
rougher than it was during the so-called war.

00:30:50.740 --> 00:30:56.989
It will keep right on going as long
as we have a presence in Iraq.

00:30:56.990 --> 00:31:00.409
And we will eventually be driven out.

00:31:00.410 --> 00:31:04.474
Somebody will have a bright idea one
of those New York conservatives

00:31:04.475 --> 00:31:08.494
and they\'re like well decide
to kill everybody there.

00:31:08.495 --> 00:31:10.819
This would be a very good thing to do.

00:31:10.820 --> 00:31:13.339
Gotta show force and

00:31:13.340 --> 00:31:18.289
all these cities all of whom ran from
the idea of going into the army.

00:31:18.290 --> 00:31:21.799
Toxin tough and they get together
we\'re ever going to show

00:31:21.800 --> 00:31:25.594
our muscle fat boys with asthma.

00:31:25.595 --> 00:31:30.049
Talking tough like makes
the blood ran cold.

00:31:30.050 --> 00:31:36.150
War goes on and we are winning.

00:31:46.140 --> 00:31:52.869
So I think that we haven\'t a chance of winning
in the Middle East nobody else cares.

00:31:52.870 --> 00:31:57.909
Nobody except the Turks were the Ottoman
Empire which Woodrow Wilson one of

00:31:57.910 --> 00:32:03.234
the great fools and our history and decided
the breakup after the end of World War one.

00:32:03.235 --> 00:32:09.894
So we get Turkey which turns out to be really
quite quite quite a formidable country now.

00:32:09.895 --> 00:32:13.539
And broke up bits and pieces into Syria and

00:32:13.540 --> 00:32:16.659
Jordan into this into that
which had formerly been then

00:32:16.660 --> 00:32:21.234
became French and British mandates
and are now countries that are

00:32:21.235 --> 00:32:27.020
uneasy with all sorts of
warring religious groups

00:32:34.770 --> 00:32:40.524
It\'s very very important
to see the long run to see

00:32:40.525 --> 00:32:48.429
the Muslim areas adjacent to
euro as areas of conquest.

00:32:48.430 --> 00:32:53.829
Reconquest division read
division which the United States

00:32:53.830 --> 00:32:56.919
joins in the course of
the late 19 thirties at

00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:00.519
least in terms of project there\'s
lots of evidence of fat.

00:33:00.520 --> 00:33:03.594
And then the course of World War II when

00:33:03.595 --> 00:33:08.789
the great old powers in collapse or
no longer able to control that area

00:33:08.790 --> 00:33:10.909
The United States very quickly moved

00:33:10.910 --> 00:33:14.539
in recognizing as the others
did that this was an area

00:33:14.540 --> 00:33:21.270
now petroleum and petroleum is absolutely
critical to the new phase of development.

00:33:21.490 --> 00:33:25.219
We have no ambition in
Iraq except to remove

00:33:25.220 --> 00:33:30.270
a threat and restore control of
that country to its own people

00:34:42.340 --> 00:34:49.729
Well it\'s very clear that the reasons given
by the Bush administration for going into

00:34:49.730 --> 00:34:53.119
Iraq are empty they fall

00:34:53.120 --> 00:34:57.109
apart immediately you know they don\'t make
any sense weapons of mass destruction.

00:34:57.110 --> 00:35:02.029
You know obviously that\'s not what
Bush administration cares about

00:35:02.030 --> 00:35:05.449
because there are other countries
which grew much greater weapons

00:35:05.450 --> 00:35:09.049
of massive structure which
has an eight nuclear powers.

00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:12.919
Iraq might have possibly one nuclear
weapon in two years or three.

00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.274
So weapons of mass destruction is just

00:35:15.275 --> 00:35:23.269
really it\'s just an argument made by the Bush
administration to justify you know and and

00:35:23.270 --> 00:35:28.309
the I believe the chief reason for
the United States fastening and

00:35:28.310 --> 00:35:33.589
Iraq is question of oil.

00:35:33.590 --> 00:35:36.904
The administration of course
doesn\'t wanna talk about while.

00:35:36.905 --> 00:35:40.879
It would rather not talk about oil because
soon as you talk about oil it brings

00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:45.469
up all those banners that people
carry say no blood for oil.

00:35:45.470 --> 00:35:49.129
But if in fact the course ever
since the end of World War II

00:35:49.130 --> 00:35:53.854
1945 President Roosevelt met
with even salad if Saudi Arabia.

00:35:53.855 --> 00:35:56.929
And they made an agreement an
agreement was that the United States

00:35:56.930 --> 00:35:59.989
would now become the major
player in the oil fields

00:35:59.990 --> 00:36:02.629
in the Middle East and in
return the United States

00:36:02.630 --> 00:36:06.199
would maintain the Saudi
monarchy and power.

00:36:06.200 --> 00:36:10.984
Now ever since land oil has been at the
center of American Middle East policy.

00:36:10.985 --> 00:36:14.254
I mean there\'s a reason for the
United States so overthrow of

00:36:14.255 --> 00:36:17.944
Mossadegh regime and in Iran in 1953.

00:36:17.945 --> 00:36:20.059
The reason for everything

00:36:20.060 --> 00:36:23.344
the United States has done and the
reason for the First Gulf War.

00:36:23.345 --> 00:36:28.939
Surely a argument the excuse was Kuwait
invasion of Kuwait but who can believe that

00:36:28.940 --> 00:36:34.999
the Bush administration was really
heartbroken over the invasion of Kuwait

00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.699
The Bush administration has
seen many invasions of

00:36:37.700 --> 00:36:41.179
many countries including
by the United States

00:36:41.180 --> 00:36:48.989
and no problem you say but so oil was behind
it no question and today no doubt about it.

00:36:48.990 --> 00:36:53.074
You know Iraq has the second largest
oil reserves in the Middle East.

00:36:53.075 --> 00:36:57.454
And and the United States was
determined to get control of them.

00:36:57.455 --> 00:37:03.124
And Saddam Hussein stands went away.

00:37:03.125 --> 00:37:06.274
Well one long-term objective
of the United States.

00:37:06.275 --> 00:37:11.299
You have to be political idiot
not to know it is to extend

00:37:11.300 --> 00:37:16.609
and intensify its control over the
world\'s major energy resources

00:37:16.610 --> 00:37:20.449
And there\'s a simple way to do that.

00:37:20.450 --> 00:37:23.299
It\'s not so simple but
an obvious way to do it.

00:37:23.300 --> 00:37:25.879
And that is to regain control over

00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.554
Iraq\'s resources which are the
second largest in the world.

00:37:29.555 --> 00:37:35.629
And to be able to establish major military
bases for the first time right at the heart of

00:37:35.630 --> 00:37:37.669
the oil-producing region and

00:37:37.670 --> 00:37:42.409
the United States does not intend
to use the oil that\'s never been.

00:37:42.410 --> 00:37:46.009
An issue even. Secondary issue

00:37:46.010 --> 00:37:50.284
has many more stable sources but
it doesn\'t want to control it.

00:37:50.285 --> 00:37:55.864
And that\'s been true since 1945 since
it pushed out the Britain and France

00:37:55.865 --> 00:37:58.564
The positions of world domination

00:37:58.565 --> 00:38:01.834
the United States doesn\'t have any
problem having access to oil.

00:38:01.835 --> 00:38:04.234
It buys some of its oil from

00:38:04.235 --> 00:38:08.179
the Middle East as to other countries
and it could buy lots more.

00:38:08.180 --> 00:38:10.534
The all question is the following.

00:38:10.535 --> 00:38:15.334
It\'s about profits from
oil and profits from oil.

00:38:15.335 --> 00:38:19.729
Depend on the control of the price and

00:38:19.730 --> 00:38:22.069
the significance of Middle Eastern oil is

00:38:22.070 --> 00:38:24.589
that whoever controls
Middle Eastern oil controls

00:38:24.590 --> 00:38:28.773
the price of off and because
maintaining the price

00:38:28.774 --> 00:38:33.499
at the level that the US one so
that is done by restricting supply.

00:38:33.500 --> 00:38:38.074
I think it\'s more important to
see the United States is worried

00:38:38.075 --> 00:38:42.634
About a scarcity of oil but rather
about an overabundance of oil.

00:38:42.635 --> 00:38:45.799
It\'s no coincidence. Let\'s put it this way.

00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:52.714
That Iraq is part of the region
that has the largest oil reserves

00:38:52.715 --> 00:38:55.999
in the world Afghanistan
is part of a region that

00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:59.569
has the second largest oil reserves in
the largest gas reserves in the world.

00:38:59.570 --> 00:39:02.509
And if you look at a map of
the world right now and you

00:39:02.510 --> 00:39:06.259
see where the United States has
established its military basis.

00:39:06.260 --> 00:39:11.479
You see there\'s just a ring all over Central
Asia all over the Middle East all of

00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:14.059
the Middle Eastern countries
except five now have

00:39:14.060 --> 00:39:17.974
a US military presence now 12
years ago this was inconceivable.

00:39:17.975 --> 00:39:20.209
It could not have been imagined.

00:39:20.210 --> 00:39:22.519
The US troops would be based throughout

00:39:22.520 --> 00:39:25.939
the Persian Gulf in Saudi Arabia and
the homework Mecca the heart of

00:39:25.940 --> 00:39:29.059
Islam this this could not have been
imagined and yet now there\'s hardly

00:39:29.060 --> 00:39:32.599
a country that doesn\'t
have a US military base.

00:39:32.600 --> 00:39:36.454
Condoleezza Rice was on
the board of Chevron Oil.

00:39:36.455 --> 00:39:39.349
And so she had in fact there\'s

00:39:39.350 --> 00:39:43.279
a tanker oil tanker called the
Condoleezza named after her.

00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:47.599
And so you can just see that that you
know when they say Is there influence of

00:39:47.600 --> 00:39:52.564
oil in the Bush administration know Lee all
companies are the Bush administration.

00:39:52.565 --> 00:39:58.770
So you want to know is the winner who are
going to be the winners in this conflict.

00:39:58.780 --> 00:40:02.134
You have to look at who
on the first conflict

00:40:02.135 --> 00:40:05.929
After the war we never got democracy
and quaint as we are promised

00:40:05.930 --> 00:40:10.354
women who had been driving around had
freedom suddenly we\'re back under the veil.

00:40:10.355 --> 00:40:15.469
So who won the answers
Chevron Oil Chevron got

00:40:15.470 --> 00:40:18.919
George Bush the daddy to write a letter to

00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:22.879
the Emirate of Kuwait asking for
an oil concession for Chevron.

00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.159
Now the Emirate can\'t say
no because after all

00:40:25.160 --> 00:40:28.249
George Bush\'s the guy has saved all
their Rolls-Royce. That\'s right.

00:40:28.250 --> 00:40:31.099
So he saved them so they could give

00:40:31.100 --> 00:40:33.949
a concession to Chevron Oil and
then shame on all by the way

00:40:33.950 --> 00:40:36.109
turns around and gives a $0.5 million and

00:40:36.110 --> 00:40:39.949
more to the Republican Party
campaigns for president

00:40:39.950 --> 00:40:45.139
for Bush\'s son now Bush himself got no
money but his son was well compensated.

00:40:45.140 --> 00:40:49.980
And needless to say when I say son
was well compensated by Chevron.

00:40:50.290 --> 00:40:53.929
Obviously it didn\'t hurt that
Bush had written a letter for

00:40:53.930 --> 00:41:01.930
them back to Hugo Chavez.

00:41:02.810 --> 00:41:07.309
So you have tremendous information coming
out from the US press about Hugo Chavez

00:41:07.310 --> 00:41:09.529
straight out of the State
Department is a would-be dictator

00:41:09.530 --> 00:41:12.319
says The New York Times the guy
won a majority of the vote.

00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:16.009
They didn\'t call it George Bush would be
dictator even though he lost the vote

00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:20.209
in America well what is Hugo
Chavez is real crime. One

00:41:20.210 --> 00:41:27.199
he has a reform program which involves
which requires doubling the royalties on

00:41:27.200 --> 00:41:29.929
US oil companies from 16% to

00:41:29.930 --> 00:41:35.224
about 30% for the oil pulled out of Venezuela
crude oil pulled out of Venezuela.

00:41:35.225 --> 00:41:39.079
Obviously Condoleezza Rice
doesn\'t really like that.

00:41:39.080 --> 00:41:42.468
The second thing is that Hugo Chavez

00:41:42.469 --> 00:41:46.909
restored the power of opec because
he was really running opec

00:41:46.910 --> 00:41:50.209
through the Office of the
Secretary General of opec who is

00:41:50.210 --> 00:41:55.414
his personal ally Ali Rodriguez people
think of opec as an Arab organization.

00:41:55.415 --> 00:41:58.714
In fact it was Hugo Chavez who had Control.

00:41:58.715 --> 00:42:02.359
And the US did not like that at all
especially the problem is that if

00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:07.249
if the war in the Middle East you end
up with losing oil fields there.

00:42:07.250 --> 00:42:09.109
Where do we get the oil we
have to get it from Venezuela.

00:42:09.110 --> 00:42:14.464
The last Arab oil embargo was smashed
by ramping up production Venezuela.

00:42:14.465 --> 00:42:15.919
We need control that oil.

00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.189
Hugo Chavez has got to go So they
start working on him through

00:42:19.190 --> 00:42:24.289
the through the bush
fingers into the media.

00:42:24.290 --> 00:42:29.329
Control the media that Hugo Chavez
is crazies in that and therefore we

00:42:29.330 --> 00:42:33.694
can we can support and help
a coup d\'etat against him.

00:42:33.695 --> 00:42:39.559
And we you know that is what I call a
second hidden front in the oil wars.

00:42:39.560 --> 00:42:45.570
Is our TAC are quiet undermining
of the Venezuelan government.

00:42:51.780 --> 00:42:55.359
Iraq is become the weapons
of mass distraction.

00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:58.689
Everyone\'s looking at Iraq
even the left is looking at

00:42:58.690 --> 00:43:01.074
a rack and forgetting
everything else that\'s going on

00:43:01.075 --> 00:43:03.789
not only in Venezuela
which were all ignoring.

00:43:03.790 --> 00:43:07.539
But one of the things I\'ve been working on
is what the World Trade Organization the

00:43:07.540 --> 00:43:11.649
IMF and the World Bank which had
kind of the the the financial arms.

00:43:11.650 --> 00:43:16.419
They have financial enforcement agencies
of the New World Order economic order.

00:43:16.420 --> 00:43:20.979
What they\'re up to and I
have obtained thousands

00:43:20.980 --> 00:43:22.809
literally thousands of pages
of documentation from

00:43:22.810 --> 00:43:25.254
inside this organization
forgave show you some here.

00:43:25.255 --> 00:43:28.889
I wonder if I am in my notebooks it\'s all
marked secret all marked confidential

00:43:28.890 --> 00:43:32.739
About what they\'re really doing to
tear apart Argentina Ecuador etcetera.

00:43:32.740 --> 00:43:35.524
In fact I\'m now trying work.

00:43:35.525 --> 00:43:39.379
I\'m working with Noam Chomsky
on analyzing the secret papers

00:43:39.380 --> 00:43:43.369
I have from the World Bank
about what they intend to do

00:43:43.370 --> 00:43:47.239
to Turkey of course if they don\'t help
out the United States in war if they

00:43:47.240 --> 00:43:51.589
if they help out the US and war
There\'ll be given a pass but not much.

00:43:51.590 --> 00:43:56.119
Part of the program is that the IMF
is forced as forced the nation to

00:43:56.120 --> 00:44:01.129
raise its interest rates
causing their budget.

00:44:01.130 --> 00:44:04.579
To fall short by $9 billion.

00:44:04.580 --> 00:44:06.319
The US economy is going
to give me $8 billion.

00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:10.819
So basically the US government is going
to give them just enough to pay back

00:44:10.820 --> 00:44:16.309
the European and American banks
but not enough to survive.

00:44:16.310 --> 00:44:17.899
But they don\'t get that money.

00:44:17.900 --> 00:44:21.139
They will be hung out to
dry and all their assets

00:44:21.140 --> 00:44:24.859
power companies water
companies bridges ports

00:44:24.860 --> 00:44:32.820
you name it are going to be sold off to
to the European American consortium.

00:44:38.170 --> 00:44:43.650
As far as this crisis
around Iraq is concerned.

00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:51.840
My point of departure in reflecting on it is
a rather bizarre one and let it seems to me

00:44:53.120 --> 00:44:59.764
That even if I list all the
causes that people have given

00:44:59.765 --> 00:45:07.765
for America\'s Oh the Bush administration\'s
fixation on Iraq and Saddam Hussein.

00:45:08.390 --> 00:45:11.119
Namely the problem with the father namely

00:45:11.120 --> 00:45:15.184
oil the political reasons
and so on and so forth.

00:45:15.185 --> 00:45:23.185
It seems to me that there is still a missing
link because quite frankly I don\'t get it as

00:45:25.040 --> 00:45:29.414
to why and how the Bush
Administration came to get

00:45:29.415 --> 00:45:35.433
effect onto Iraq and Saddam Hussein
the way they have During the past

00:45:35.434 --> 00:45:38.599
year and a half though
it must be admitted that

00:45:38.600 --> 00:45:42.124
in terms of some of the advisors around him

00:45:42.125 --> 00:45:45.919
they were of course not

00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:50.134
obsessed but nevertheless very much
preoccupied with the Iraq problem.

00:45:50.135 --> 00:45:55.444
Even before Bush came to the White House.

00:45:55.445 --> 00:46:03.019
In any case it seems to me
that the big question is as to

00:46:03.020 --> 00:46:08.779
why in America it\'s

00:46:08.780 --> 00:46:15.720
extremely difficult to raise
fundamental questions about

00:46:16.780 --> 00:46:24.780
what the project the larger project of this
fixation on Iraq might really involve.

00:46:27.550 --> 00:46:31.999
I don\'t think that there is anything.

00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:40.000
This honorable about for example bringing
into the discussion the problem of oil.

00:46:41.570 --> 00:46:46.770
One does not have to be either in marches.

00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:53.674
Or if not a Marxist a materialist
Oh if not a materialist.

00:46:53.675 --> 00:46:58.969
One doesn\'t have to be an enemy of America

00:46:58.970 --> 00:47:04.399
In order to say that there may be an oil
interests that is it worked because after

00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:12.400
all oil has been at the center of the
politics and diplomacy of the great powers.

00:47:13.895 --> 00:47:16.840
Since before World War one.

00:47:17.170 --> 00:47:23.314
I need not go now into
the way in which Iraq.

00:47:23.315 --> 00:47:28.699
So we say was constructed
immediately after World War one.

00:47:28.700 --> 00:47:31.939
But it was constructed as part of

00:47:31.940 --> 00:47:39.940
a negotiation for the reorganization
of the legacy of the Ottoman Empire

00:47:40.940 --> 00:47:44.550
between Britain and France.

00:47:44.590 --> 00:47:49.279
One can be indignant about
it but it\'s a fact of life.

00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:54.124
And likewise after World War II
once again the question came up

00:47:54.125 --> 00:47:59.614
student just exactly how oil figures

00:47:59.615 --> 00:48:07.615
in the reconstruction that went on after
1945 and it would seem to me not altogether

00:48:08.420 --> 00:48:11.149
accidental that after all at the time of

00:48:11.150 --> 00:48:15.199
Mossadegh Iran again the aisle factor

00:48:15.200 --> 00:48:19.339
played very heavily and that was in
the early 19 hundreds and fifties.

00:48:19.340 --> 00:48:22.939
When America took over so to speak

00:48:22.940 --> 00:48:27.739
and the eastern Mediterranean from
the British Turkey and Greece and

00:48:27.740 --> 00:48:32.359
so on that too was related
to sort of taking

00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:36.679
over the Imperial watch that written at

00:48:36.680 --> 00:48:43.669
exercised for a whole century and
before the Americans got into this act.

00:48:43.670 --> 00:48:47.460
Anyway that\'s certainly one aspect of it.

00:48:47.980 --> 00:48:53.254
For the Bush administration
to maintain that Iraq.

00:48:53.255 --> 00:48:58.399
And in particular Saddam Hussein is

00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:05.044
a threat to the world including
to the United States

00:49:05.045 --> 00:49:08.070
really boggles the mind.

00:49:09.010 --> 00:49:13.549
In a piece that I wrote
on this iraq business.

00:49:13.550 --> 00:49:20.749
I tried to suggest that
compared to the Soviet Union

00:49:20.750 --> 00:49:28.750
which the United States with its allies
successfully contained until 1989.

00:49:29.885 --> 00:49:32.959
Without going to war.

00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:36.180
Iraq is a pygmy.

00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:40.204
Still that then raises the question as to

00:49:40.205 --> 00:49:46.384
why the insistence on the
direct military intervention

00:49:46.385 --> 00:49:53.564
And quite frankly the answer to that I would
not even know how to begin to address it.

00:49:53.565 --> 00:49:57.900
I mean to formulate an Azure and
that comes to the missing link.

00:50:07.120 --> 00:50:15.120
Ladder brothers and sisters have the
wrong conception of the front line.

00:50:16.030 --> 00:50:19.219
They bleed the front
line is again banging on

00:50:19.220 --> 00:50:23.460
the streets dealing with the
underground drug industry.

00:50:24.850 --> 00:50:28.339
But the real front line is

00:50:28.340 --> 00:50:36.340
On the home front will sisters and brothers
but especially sisters of all colors.

00:50:37.445 --> 00:50:45.445
Caring for the precious children often putting
up with a male miss the real front line.

00:50:48.035 --> 00:50:54.484
Working people fighting against
unaccountable corporate power.

00:50:54.485 --> 00:50:58.789
With this obscene levels
of wealth inequality

00:50:58.790 --> 00:51:06.169
the real frontline citizens

00:51:06.170 --> 00:51:09.964
of all colors fighting gets
arbitrary police power.

00:51:09.965 --> 00:51:16.399
Criminal justice system that oversees
black people being convicted.

00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:24.400
For 70% of the drug sentences must
commit only 12% of the drug crimes.

00:51:25.985 --> 00:51:29.479
The real front line has not
just here but around the world

00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:33.490
is the struggle against aids in Africa.

00:51:33.580 --> 00:51:38.928
Since solidarity Mexican workers
Colombian peasants Iraqi

00:51:38.929 --> 00:51:44.599
babies brothers and sisters
in East Timor and Tibet.

00:51:44.600 --> 00:51:49.920
The real frontlines.

00:51:51.940 --> 00:51:56.929
Our memories of those who

00:51:56.930 --> 00:52:03.030
sacrifice themselves on the battlefields
first to die last beyond that own.

00:52:03.070 --> 00:52:06.190
The front line.

00:52:07.300 --> 00:52:13.320
We hold up the bloodstain
ban of justice and freedom.

00:52:15.910 --> 00:52:23.910
The frontline we challenge athletes
entertainers professors doctors lawyers

00:52:25.730 --> 00:52:33.730
promises to be on the front line don\'t sell
your soul for a mess of pottage. Stay on

00:52:35.585 --> 00:52:38.040
the front line.

00:53:16.510 --> 00:53:18.720
Okay.

00:54:21.640 --> 00:54:24.210
Okay